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Date Posted: 07:46:19 08/27/09 Thu
Author: Kelsey
Subject: Re: I agree with Jeffman
In reply to: Jeffman 's message, "Re: Im surprised" on 05:13:44 08/27/09 Thu

There are really two prongs to this argument. The first is philosophic, the "should we be better than them, or more "moral" a word which gets tossed around too haphazardly by both political parties in my view.

The second is the practical. The real time, real world problem of having people trying to harm us, our families and fellow citizens, and grappling with the problem of how to stop them.

I believe that the practical argument overrides the philosophic one. From what I've seen the tactics were legit. The timing of the release of this is questionable. "Take their eyes off of the healthcare debacle" comes screaming through to me.




>Im still surprised that someone thought that
>threatening someone with death or torture could be
>considered torture by anyone. Its a phychological
>ploy... not much more than the good cop, bad cop,
>routine.
>
>I never said I didnt think it was illegal. I said I
>was surprised that it was.
>
>>The law says the threat of immament death is torture.
>>A gun being fired in an adjacent room, implying
>>someone is being killed constitutes torture.
>>
>>Here's the link to the document: >target=_blank rel=nofollow
>>target=_blank
>>href="http://documents.nytimes.com/c-i-a-reports-on-in
>t
>>errogation-methods#p=1">http://documents.nytimes.com/c
>-
>>i-a-reports-on-interrogation-methods#p=1 A lot
>>of the 257 pages has been redacted but I'm sure you
>>can see enough of it.

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