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Date Posted: 12/04/09 5:03:26pm
Author: rina
Subject: encouraging people
In reply to: Peter Eveleigh 's message, "Re: is god obscene?" on 12/04/09 3:14:53pm

>I was a Christian before I met the JA and for 5 years
>after leaving the JA; a member of a house church in
>Bristol.
>
>My atheism is not a reaction to the JA.
>
>However I agree with your description of JA
>Christianity.
>
>My house church in Bristol was peopled by mostly
>students at the university. It grew out of the Church
>of England Chaplaincy, was charismatic and evangelical
>in emphasis, but most importantly from my point of
>view, it was made up of intelligent, well educated
>people and unlike in the JA, people read the bible
>without restriction.
>
>During that period I worked in an Christian bookshop
>and was a voracious reader with a wide ranging
>interest in theology. More importantly I came into
>contact with christians of different denominations and
>these relationships allowed me to question the basis
>of my belief system. I realised that much that I had
>believed had been convenient when I needed it, but
>that increasingly I didn't believe in God at all.
>
>Atheism is potentially as arrogant as Christianity;
>agnosticism would be more honest. The fact is that
>neither of us can really know, but I fervently believe
>that there is no God. But what reassures me that he
>doesn't exist is that christian reason does not stack
>up. If christians were right about god, I doubt that
>he would be a god worthy of worship - Christians con
>themselves into accepting the notions of a merciful
>and loving god while constantly pointing to a god who
>is anything but.
>
>That was the point I was making when I referred to the
>story of Noah, which is a story of malevolence,
>jealously and callous disregard for humankind. The god
>of judgement is the sort of god that christians
>want....a god who will punish people for not believing
>in him. He is therefore a god they have created in
>their own image.

God is love, light, live, truth. No human being can be like that. People are too corrupt, too weak to be like that. If you make a god after the image of people the end result will be the devil, not God, because sad to say, most people follow the image of the devil, not the image of God. They fill their minds with evil, with corruption, they brake the eternal laws of God, that would protect them and heal them,and then they blame God for having to judge them. He gave them a free choice. With God you are no slave, but the devil wants to enslave you into evil thinking about God.

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