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Date Posted: 27/05/10 12:32:51pm
Author: the artist formerly known as anon.
Subject: Re: when have you ever heard an ordinary person use the word apostasy?
In reply to: Peter Eveleigh 's message, "when have you ever heard an ordinary person use the word apostasy?" on 24/11/07 12:34:40pm

I did consider myself to be an evangelical apostate at one time but now I think I have downgraded to a messianic aetheist

>Something alarmed me about the negotiated re-write of
>the JA Wikipedia article last night, when Rumiton
>referred to a site reference put on the article as
>being an "apostate site".
>
>I have never heard anyone other than the JA or Islamic
>fundamentalists refer to anything as apostate, so
>claxons and flashing lights went off all over my house.
>
>An apostate is someone who has abandoned the faith.
>Only the JA refer to the leaving of their church as
>the leaving of the faith or the beginnings of
>backsliding into apostasy.
>
>If the JA insist that they are just an orthodox
>Christian church, then leaving them is no more the act
>of an apostate than leaving your local parish church
>and joining the parish somewhere else.
>
>The fact that Rumiton is using apostate to mean
>"depart from"...and then lists Mormons, Roman
>Catholics or Marxists, means that in his mind, as in
>the JA's, leaving the JA is synonymous with leaving
>Protestantism, and not just one of many, many orthodox
>Christian churches in this country which a Christian
>might belong to.
>
>The theological argument doesn't matter. What matters
>is the use of the word by someone who purports to be
>neutral in the sense in which it is used almost
>exclusively by the JA .
>
>Am I right to be concerned? (responses here or by
>email very much appreciated. Incidentally, if you have
>emailed me, please bear with me. I will write asap)

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Re: when have you ever heard an ordinary person use the word apostasy? -- Concerned, 27/05/10 11:24:37pm

relativism has no place when an immediate need presents itself -- Peter Eveleigh, 27/05/10 11:33:02pm

Re: relativism has no place when an immediate need presents itself -- the artist formerly known as anon., 28/05/10 7:27:59am
- Re: relativism has no place when an immediate need presents itself -- Peter Eveleigh, 28/05/10 5:44:40pm
  - Re: relativism has no place when an immediate need presents itself -- the artist formerly known as anon., 28/05/10 6:36:16pm
    - Re: relativism has no place when an immediate need presents itself -- Peter Eveleigh, 29/05/10 9:54:19am

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>I did consider myself to be an evangelical apostate at >one time but now I think I have downgraded to a >messianic aetheist > >>Something alarmed me about the negotiated re-write of >>the JA Wikipedia article last night, when Rumiton >>referred to a site reference put on the article as >>being an "apostate site". >> >>I have never heard anyone other than the JA or Islamic >>fundamentalists refer to anything as apostate, so >>claxons and flashing lights went off all over my >house. >> >>An apostate is someone who has abandoned the faith. >>Only the JA refer to the leaving of their church as >>the leaving of the faith or the beginnings of >>backsliding into apostasy. >> >>If the JA insist that they are just an orthodox >>Christian church, then leaving them is no more the act >>of an apostate than leaving your local parish church >>and joining the parish somewhere else. >> >>The fact that Rumiton is using apostate to mean >>"depart from"...and then lists Mormons, Roman >>Catholics or Marxists, means that in his mind, as in >>the JA's, leaving the JA is synonymous with leaving >>Protestantism, and not just one of many, many orthodox >>Christian churches in this country which a Christian >>might belong to. >> >>The theological argument doesn't matter. What matters >>is the use of the word by someone who purports to be >>neutral in the sense in which it is used almost >>exclusively by the JA . >> >>Am I right to be concerned? (responses here or by >>email very much appreciated. Incidentally, if you have >>emailed me, please bear with me. I will write asap)
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