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Date Posted: 27/05/10 11:24:37pm
Author: Concerned
Subject: Re: when have you ever heard an ordinary person use the word apostasy?
In reply to: Peter Eveleigh 's message, "when have you ever heard an ordinary person use the word apostasy?" on 24/11/07 12:34:40pm

>Something alarmed me about the negotiated re-write of
>the JA Wikipedia article last night, when Rumiton
>referred to a site reference put on the article as
>being an "apostate site".
>
>I have never heard anyone other than the JA or Islamic
>fundamentalists refer to anything as apostate, so
>claxons and flashing lights went off all over my house.
>
>An apostate is someone who has abandoned the faith.
>Only the JA refer to the leaving of their church as
>the leaving of the faith or the beginnings of
>backsliding into apostasy.
>
>If the JA insist that they are just an orthodox
>Christian church, then leaving them is no more the act
>of an apostate than leaving your local parish church
>and joining the parish somewhere else.
>
>The fact that Rumiton is using apostate to mean
>"depart from"...and then lists Mormons, Roman
>Catholics or Marxists, means that in his mind, as in
>the JA's, leaving the JA is synonymous with leaving
>Protestantism, and not just one of many, many orthodox
>Christian churches in this country which a Christian
>might belong to.
>
>The theological argument doesn't matter. What matters
>is the use of the word by someone who purports to be
>neutral in the sense in which it is used almost
>exclusively by the JA .
>
>Am I right to be concerned? (responses here or by
>email very much appreciated. Incidentally, if you have
>emailed me, please bear with me. I will write asap)

Actually it's a very frequent term which is also used my The Mormon Church who have vastly greater numbers than the poxy little Jesus Army Cult. Why the Jesus Army get so much attention in the media and on here beggars belief they might have grandiose ideas but in the grand scheme of things and in numbers they are merely but a grain of sand on the beach with far too much infulence than they actually deserve and portray. Just ignore them and let them get on with it and leave them to there delusions of grandeur and fairy tale fantasies. Ignore them and they will ignore you get on with your life and do your own thing.

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Replies:

relativism has no place when an immediate need presents itself -- Peter Eveleigh, 27/05/10 11:33:02pm
- Re: relativism has no place when an immediate need presents itself -- the artist formerly known as anon., 28/05/10 7:27:59am
  - Re: relativism has no place when an immediate need presents itself -- Peter Eveleigh, 28/05/10 5:44:40pm
    - Re: relativism has no place when an immediate need presents itself -- the artist formerly known as anon., 28/05/10 6:36:16pm
      - Re: relativism has no place when an immediate need presents itself -- Peter Eveleigh, 29/05/10 9:54:19am

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>>Something alarmed me about the negotiated re-write of >>the JA Wikipedia article last night, when Rumiton >>referred to a site reference put on the article as >>being an "apostate site". >> >>I have never heard anyone other than the JA or Islamic >>fundamentalists refer to anything as apostate, so >>claxons and flashing lights went off all over my >house. >> >>An apostate is someone who has abandoned the faith. >>Only the JA refer to the leaving of their church as >>the leaving of the faith or the beginnings of >>backsliding into apostasy. >> >>If the JA insist that they are just an orthodox >>Christian church, then leaving them is no more the act >>of an apostate than leaving your local parish church >>and joining the parish somewhere else. >> >>The fact that Rumiton is using apostate to mean >>"depart from"...and then lists Mormons, Roman >>Catholics or Marxists, means that in his mind, as in >>the JA's, leaving the JA is synonymous with leaving >>Protestantism, and not just one of many, many orthodox >>Christian churches in this country which a Christian >>might belong to. >> >>The theological argument doesn't matter. What matters >>is the use of the word by someone who purports to be >>neutral in the sense in which it is used almost >>exclusively by the JA . >> >>Am I right to be concerned? (responses here or by >>email very much appreciated. Incidentally, if you have >>emailed me, please bear with me. I will write asap) > >Actually it's a very frequent term which is also used >my The Mormon Church who have vastly greater numbers >than the poxy little Jesus Army Cult. Why the Jesus >Army get so much attention in the media and on here >beggars belief they might have grandiose ideas but in >the grand scheme of things and in numbers they are >merely but a grain of sand on the beach with far too >much infulence than they actually deserve and portray. >Just ignore them and let them get on with it and leave >them to there delusions of grandeur and fairy tale >fantasies. Ignore them and they will ignore you get on >with your life and do your own thing.
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