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Date Posted: 4/04/10 8:27:16pm
Author: Peter Eveleigh
Subject: fears of Labour taking children away
In reply to: anon 's message, "Re: personal responsibility" on 4/04/10 6:41:35pm

>I don't believe that they should be exonerated from
>ALL responsibility but neither should they be held
>entirely responsible. The abuse was a result of a
>combination of parental failure, society generally
>being in transition from being pro-cp to anti-cp, and
>the church being at fault.
>
>Perhaps the Church (not the main leadership but the
>membership) was slow to pick up on the change in
>societys' attitudes shifting away from CP because of
>their extreme insularity??
>

Yes, I agree that evil intent was never behind CP and I agree that insularity was a large part of the problem. But I don't think the community cared what society's attitude was. Back then they weren't trying to seem respectable

....they were, if anything, trying to sound as radical as possible. I remember that I delighted in shocking people with just how extreme I was. It was all about being different . . . and "not of the world"

However, I don't think the church was naive about this. Individuals didn't know what was going on outside (or didn't care, if they did) but leaders had a keen awareness. I say that because I remember that in the 1983 election we were encouraged to vote conservative because of fears that Labour would take our children away.

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Re: fears of Labour taking children away -- anon, 5/04/10 7:28:59am
- Did the JA make self-defense more of a priority than the defense of children? -- Peter Eveleigh, 6/04/10 11:56:08am
  - Tom, what do you think (don't let mine be the only voice)? -- Peter Eveleigh, 6/04/10 3:06:27pm
    - Re: Tom, what do you think (don't let mine be the only voice)? -- anon, 6/04/10 3:37:01pm
      - what about the kids? -- Peter Eveleigh, 6/04/10 3:57:05pm
        Re: what about the kids? -- Peter Eveleigh, 6/04/10 4:02:11pm
        Re: what about the kids? -- peaches/nelly, 6/04/10 6:19:46pm
        Re: what about the kids? -- anon, 6/04/10 6:35:49pm

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>>I don't believe that they should be exonerated from >>ALL responsibility but neither should they be held >>entirely responsible. The abuse was a result of a >>combination of parental failure, society generally >>being in transition from being pro-cp to anti-cp, and >>the church being at fault. >> >>Perhaps the Church (not the main leadership but the >>membership) was slow to pick up on the change in >>societys' attitudes shifting away from CP because of >>their extreme insularity?? >> > > >Yes, I agree that evil intent was never behind CP and >I agree that insularity was a large part of the >problem. But I don't think the community cared what >society's attitude was. Back then they weren't trying >to seem respectable > >....they were, if anything, trying to sound as radical >as possible. I remember that I delighted in shocking >people with just how extreme I was. It was all about >being different . . . and "not of the world" > >However, I don't think the church was naive about >this. Individuals didn't know what was going on >outside (or didn't care, if they did) but leaders had >a keen awareness. I say that because I remember that >in the 1983 election we were encouraged to vote >conservative because of fears that Labour would take >our children away.
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