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Subject: Too late...


Author:
Ed Harris (London)
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Date Posted: 00:42:54 01/16/05 Sun
In reply to: Dave (UK) 's message, "Mon Dieu - it's already happening!" on 00:04:09 01/16/05 Sun

The nightmares have already started. Don't turn out the lights.

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[> [> Subject: Ja, it's coming


Author:
Ein European
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Date Posted: 14:55:32 01/16/05 Sun

Of course, and if HM's government takes too long it risks being sued by some continental lorry driver or tourist. You can't expect people to learn all sorts of silly obsolete measures just in order to be able to exercise their right to free travel and commerce inside the EU.

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[> [> [> Subject: what right to free travel?


Author:
Ian (Australia)
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Date Posted: 15:21:12 01/16/05 Sun

Either the UK has mysteriously signed up to those parts of the Schengen agreement that relate to frontiers and thus abandoned its border controls, or Ein European is talking through his bockwurst.

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Author:
Ein european
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Date Posted: 15:59:36 01/16/05 Sun

Nein, the Schengen agreement exclusion means that the UK keeps the "right" to have border posts and monitor travel documents, but can't stop citizens from other EU states from entering the UK and indeed setting up residence there, provided that they have proper identification (and not even a passport can be requested, if that EU national comes from a state which issues id cards and he prefers to use it).

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