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Subject: The British upper class discriminated against anyone who they considered to be 'beneath' them


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Jim (Canada)
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Date Posted: 18:28:43 01/13/05 Thu
In reply to: Ian (Australia) 's message, "Racism is always a tragic error - enormously destructive, in this case" on 17:59:31 01/13/05 Thu


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: That commit generalises to a gross extent


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Owain (UK)
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Date Posted: 19:40:52 01/13/05 Thu


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: EDIT: That comment generalises to a gross extent


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Date Posted: 19:43:20 01/13/05 Thu


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: That's how it was in pre-war Britain and the Empire. British middle class administrators were far more accommodating


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Jim (Canada)
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Date Posted: 20:40:13 01/13/05 Thu


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Not a very helpful generalisation


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Nick (UK)
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Date Posted: 09:12:40 01/14/05 Fri

I think this is a C20th class-ist prejudice that you're going to have to support with a bit more evidence, Jim. I can see room for a bit of legitimacy in what you're saying, but I don't really think you're coming at things from the right angle.

The British Empire was hierarchical. I think that's about the extent of it. Hierarchy has its good points and bad points. Race did not prevent one from being recognised as being of the 'ruling class' and therefore being respected. But society was run by an elite along 'elitist' lines, and in many ways was the better for it.

There were upper class administrators who were very much against racism, or even a rigid social hierarchy, and there were middle class administrators who were fiercely racist. I don't think making a distinction is particularly helpful. At best it's grossly simplistic.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: You are probably right, but this is what I was taught in Canadian schools. Thanks for the enlightenment.


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Jim (Canada)
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Date Posted: 12:17:44 01/14/05 Fri


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