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Subject: learn some history M.J. Smith


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Aussie
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Date Posted: 01:04:48 01/26/05 Wed
In reply to: Paddy (Scotland) 's message, "CBC archives..." on 22:34:39 01/09/05 Sun

We did send forces to help out the Europeans, so that was all we could. But when over 200 bombings were carried out agaainst Australia cities and towns in our north, when ships were being torpedoed in Sydney Harbour, when jap subs were firing shells into the suburbs of Newcastle, when jap recon seaplanes were flying over all of our major cities, when the japs had taken over Australia territories of New Guinea and elsewhere, where Australian were living, then I think we were in as big of a need as Europe. And i didnt expect for all of Britains forces to pull out of europe to be sent to help us, but i did expect Churchill to have the decency to realease australia's own divisions of soldiers to take back Australia's own territory and defend the Australian mainland. Its not unreasonable that we prefer our own soldiers to defend our own shores rather than having them fight another poorly planned operation where they are used as MG fodder in Greece and Crete. But Churchills reliance on the poor 'stronghold' (and i use that term very loosely) of Singapore was attroucios, it was as quoted by an Aussie officer "an iron cage from which there is no escape", probably all the forces in the pacific couldnt have saved it, but Churchill should have known that, Australia's PM wrote to him saying that if he did not get serious about defences in SE Asia then if Japan entered the invasion would get all the way to New Guinea.

I know others were in need, and when they were Australia sent all it could, we did our bit for everybody in britain. europe, the med, Nth Africa and the middle east, yet Churchill tried to stop us from for once sticking up for ourselves when we needed help. Australia has every right to look back at Churchill with disgust, he was horrible for Australia, in WW1 and as PM in WW2 he was attrocious. So dont have a go at me for stating the facts, because as a canadian who is protected by 2 oceans, ice, and the USA, you obviously have no idea how close Japan came to being rulers of Down Under, and you obviously do not know what Churchill did to try stop us from calling our forces from europe to the pacific. So please do not say that tripe again, you clearly have no clue.

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[> [> Subject: OK Aussie, we agree to disagree...no hard feelings, mate.


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Michael J. Smith (Canada)
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Date Posted: 16:38:43 01/26/05 Wed


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[> [> [> Subject: i can agree to that


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Date Posted: 02:48:42 01/27/05 Thu

i can agree to disagree, no hard feelings, my only gripe is that Australia is just as important as any country in Europe, and we were in just as much danger.

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