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] Date Posted: 19:48:08 11/05/04 Fri In reply to: Curnoack 's message, "CANZ vs UK" on 18:31:10 11/05/04 Fri Obviously we can't deny that the cultures currently existing in Australia, New Zealand and Canada are the products of colonisation. We should then admit that English culture is also a result of a long process of invasions and assimilations. What's more, the Irish, Welsh and Cornish cultures are also all products of an earlier wave of invasions and colonisation. None of this is reversible. Sending Australians of European ancestry “back” to Europe is no more plausible or rational than sending all Celts back to Austria, where Celtic culture appears to have arisen. In Australia, there is evidence of distinct waves of people arriving over periods of tens of thousands of years: the people we call “Aboriginal” are not all one, just as the people we call “European” are not all one. In New Zealand, the Maori colonised and enslaved the Moriori, many of whom still live on the Chatham Islands. So, who are the good guys and who are the bad guys now? None of this is reversible: we have to start from where we are. An “independent” Australia has not been good for the Aboriginal peoples – that is my country’s greatest shame – so there is no real reason why they, as a group, would want to keep the current political arrangement rather than be part of a larger grouping. If you asked Aboriginal people whether it would be a good thing for “white” Australians to have to share power with people from New Zealand, Canada and the UK, a lot of them would probably say “they could hardly do a worse job than the lot we have now.” I hope that a Federal Commonwealth will result in my people becoming a bit more open minded about our relationship with Aboriginal people. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] |
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Author: Brent (Canada) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 21:22:25 11/05/04 Fri Curnoack - Read your history of Canada and you will find that aboriginal peoples here have more of an affinity with the Crown than with some of the local governments. "The Great Mother", Queen Victoria, was the reason why Sitting Bull immediately after taking out Custer at Little Big Horn - lived in Canada, dealt with the Mounties, for years without incident. Crees in northern Quebec have made clear that if les Quebecois wanted to separate, they weren't going anywhere. They view the federal government in Ottawa as the inheritor of the Crown's authority. While you're at it, do a Google search on the names Joseph and Molly Brant... [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |