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Re: Enough is enough -- Disgruntled Bronco Fan, 09:29:55 02/25/05 Fri
Let's look at this in a college football sense. If this were college football, DD would be gone because most likely the rich alumni would not tolerate mediocrity. Now I am not too sure how it works at SCU because I'm not a rich alumni. But the decision for Coonan to "allow" DD to step down would be easier if he were "persuaded" by rich alumni. I doubt we know any rich alumni. But the only way DD and the whole coaching staff will be gone next year is if the people who fund our basketball team and their scholarships are fed up with the mediocrity.
On another note, it appears that DD has done a pretty good job of recruiting for next year. However, if a coaching staff change is made, it is possible that our incoming recruits can choose to transfer. That is a thought we must take into consideration before getting rid of the whole coaching staff.
Disgruntled out!!!
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Re: Enough is enough -- Disgruntled Bronco Fan, 09:34:32 02/25/05 Fri
After looking at TH's other posts, maybe DD hasn't done such a great job at recruiting for next year. Oh well!!! 14-14 again next year boys.
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Re: Enough is enough -- Tom Huckaby, 10:00:49 02/25/05 Fri
Great points re college football comparison. Unfortunately, I know some rich alumni, but they don't support the school much one way or the other, so the ones that do are unknown to me... But my feeling is - again very unfortunately - that the ones who do support the program are the "Santa Clara family" types who are content with annual mediocrity so long as we continue to churn out hoops players who become contributing citizens and role models.
What I don't get is why we can't have both, like so many other schools...
Re the recruiting, well hell that's just my take and I am far removed from it. But the more I research these guys others here are all excited about, the LESS excited I get.
TH
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This year's recruits. -- JC, 11:37:24 02/25/05 Fri
While I think the class may be better than TH describes, i'm not sure recruiting and the talent level was the primary problem this season.. Calvin Johnson was rated at Texas Hoops as #89 in Texas but another website rated him #105 in the country, which is probably higher than any Bronco in any rating since BJ. Street and Smith rated him a High Honorable mention All American; that would also place him with the top 150 or so. Not great, not Aaron Affalo, but not bad. Prep West Hoops rates Bryant as the 10th best post in the West. For a point of reference, Niessen was ranked 11 as a power forward three years ago. Sammet is not as highly regarded, but received a pretty good review from Prep West. I suspect at the end of the recruiting season, they Broncos will be in the middle of the WCC as far as rankings go.
The bigger concern I have is one of consistency and motivation (recall the death march through late December v. bottom feeders). Doron Perkins is a versitile player, with more talent then anyone here since a healthy Jones (and much more atheletic). After the LMU game, DLew asked him if he was upset about the previous tough OT loss to P'Dine. DP replied "no, we didn't play well and we still took them to OT." How can you not be pissed off about losing to a team you man-handled on the road (and yes the Waves had their starting center for that game, 'cuz I watched him push Denison all over the floor)? If this team played to it's potential, its talent, we'd be debating NCAA v. NIT bids; they haven't and we're not.The players did not produce on a consistent basis. It still gets back to coaching.
Even if the class is as good as this "polly" might think it will be, it will be a young team and we're losing the majority of our points, rebounds,assists and steals. unless there are some real steals, next year could be tough under any circumstance.
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Sammet -- SCU FAN, 16:20:31 02/25/05 Fri
Super 100 camp report
Invitation Only Camp for the top 100 players in all of NOR-CAL
Lorenzo Harris and Damon Potter
REVIEW
Cliff Sammet, 6-8, Sr., SF, Santa Cruz - Our MVP of the camp, Sammet did it all. He played hard on both ends of the floor getting back to back blocks on one possession, ran the floor and scored off put-backs, including two jaw-dropping dunks off the carom. He also made the would-be play of the day on Saturday when he elevated after a missed shot, and attempted a reverse two-hand bash in traffic that caromed off the rim. We must admit, we didn't know he had it in him. To top it all off, he also has a very good mid-range lefty jumper. Sammet has already commited to Santa Clara.
http://vmedia.rivals.com/uploads/985/180189.jpg
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Add Sammet and Santa Cruz....link -- JC, 07:18:41 02/26/05 Sat
http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/archive/2005/February/26/sport/stories/01sport.htm
a description of Sammet is in the middle of the article. Coming from a USA Today top 50 school is pretty good.
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Re: Enough is enough -- RUFFRIDER, 12:39:29 02/27/05 Sun
>Its apparent that there are lots of frustrations with Bronco Basketball. I know it pains me to have our SCU teams play inconsistently over and over again. That can be handed to a number of sources and most importantly, it all comes down to the coaches and players alike.
With that said, know that players dont come to SCU because of high profile coaches(which may never happen here)...alot of talk, but, i dont think any of you pay EXTREME amounts of money to support the program (endowments, thousands in season ticket sales, etc...) that are required to bring in that caliber of coach and that caliber of profile to land big recruits.
Having a big win over a top notch program or having your game on ESPN and showing a wild crowd doesnt necessarily do it for 16 year old kids anymore. We've never been a Final Four quality of team (and hopefully some of you dont think SCU will ever consistently be that way, realistically speaking) We should be a better conference team year in and year out, and we should be a consistent 19-22 win season team.
If you use Gonzaga as your benchmark to where we should be just because they're in the same league, then you are not being realistic. Ive said this before. Put them in the same category as an ACC team or SEC team, where the area, the state and the ENTIRE community back and support them. We are a team that is supported by ALUMNI (THATS IT...) there may have been a section of our victory over UNC on the corner of the Mercury News...
Kudos to SMC for what they've done with their program, but, the consistency factor will be the challenge that they will soon face after losing a stellar group of players and having to return that quality of kids year in and year out, without any major increases financially for their program or their staff. Think Bennett is staying there for 13 years? HA!
Tonights loss to lowly USD was disgusting. Our bball
>program needs to be torn down and rebuilt from the
>ground up. Let's do like John York and fire everyone.
>NOW! I wanna see an NCAA tourney slot go to SCU
>before I graduate in 2008.
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