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Date Posted: Monday, May 03, 01:42:02am
Author: Maverick
Subject: Re: I have to ask because I'm really lost
In reply to: GL 's message, "I have to ask because I'm really lost" on Sunday, May 02, 02:13:46pm

oh that question... to be honest i dont think it can be answered. there are so many genres and sub genres and levels of interest that it would be hard to say what the defining attribute to a goth is. i think that there is waaaaay to much mystique regarding gothdom. could you consider Edgar Allan Poe, Mary Shelly or Lord Byron goths? well YEAH! and that was 150-200 years before Bauhaus and the Sisters of Mercy! there are roll players, club kids, weekend goths, historical & literary fans, music enthusiasts and the list goes on and on. so just think of it like this. if you are into Reggae, dreadlocks, hemp clothes and smoking out then you more than likely would be perceived as and could be considered a Rastafarian. if you are into wrangler jeans, boots, cowboy hats and giant belt buckles then you would be pretty close to fitting in with the cowboys, even if you dont own a horse or heard cattle. into black, the Cure, cemeteries like goth type junk then.... get the picture? but who fucking cares about titles or definition. i could easily claim that i was the most gothic person in Fresno and most would agree, but you wont ever hear me say that because it isnt true. im so not into the mainstream goth crowd stuff, but more into antiquity and necromancy. young girls of the 19th century swooned over "gothic" novels by Mary Shelly & Lord Byron, so even way back in the 1800's there were goths. how can you define something that spans all time and space? but if it has a certain feel, yes it could very well be something gothic. however you shouldnt need to label yourself. the ONLY reason our website is called fresnogoth is to give people a focus and to be as specific as possible. but we appeal to all sorts of genres like industrial, glam, new wave & deathrock. so if people want to call you goth let them, i however think its stupid to call ones self goth, thats just my opinion.

and your pastor friend. he has a weak tongue. tell him to hold it next time he decides to open his mouth.

-Maverick


>I know this might sound odd, but I really have to ask
>this question. What makes somone "Goth" as opposed to
>someone who just wears black all the time or a poser?
>I've actually been wondering for the last two years
>after I went to a concert in L.A. and a paster said I
>was the weakest goth he had ever seen. To be honest
>though, I know I'm not the real thing, I don't even
>qualify as a poser. I usually look like Joey Ramone
>and I don't know anything about the goth scene other
>than what I read here.
>Infact it was a friend of mine who suggested I start
>posting here to meet new people. I also thought it
>would be a good idea because my fince is going to be
>moving here soon from Romania and she loves places
>like Futureshockk, so I wanted to kind of get
>involved. I also didn't want people to look at me and
>wonder what the hell I'm doing here.
>So if anyone is willing to answer without making me
>look like a bigger jack ass than I am I'd be very
>greatful.
>Thanks for your time.

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