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Date Posted: 01:32:01 02/18/03 Tue
Author: Mark
Subject: Big Bad
In reply to: *** 's message, "Big Bad Discussion" on 13:28:11 02/16/03 Sun

I think the Dark One would be a great idea if the First wasn't the Big Bad of season 7. Sorry but I just think it's way too similar. We need to have a radically different big bad every year.

I always thought that the Watchers could somehow be involved in the Big Bad. haha I've said it once and I'll say it again, I would love a vamped former slayer to be involved somehow. Maybe it could be the Watcher's fault she vamped, like they wanted to try and make the Ultimate Slayer, and tried to make a good, souled Vamp Slayer but it all went horribly wrong. They've been keeping it in captivity for hundreds of years, not wanting to destroy it for selfish reasons. Then when the Watcher's building was destroyed this year she was able to get out and has been wreaking havoc in England and finally makes it to Sunnydale. She could be the Little Bad, and the Watcher would want to destroy it's terrible mistake at any possible cost. Then we could go into Kashmanik's idea of having an army of vamps form in Sunnydale and the Watchers would want to suck Sunnydale into a demon dimension.

However I do not think we should bring back Dawn as the Key in any way. No major storyline in Buffy has really been brought back and I don't think we should start now. For the most part the Big Bads and their Big Bad Plans have all been different and not inter-related and I think it should stay that way.

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[> Okay here it is. -- Sam the Eagle, 02:32:22 02/18/03 Tue

The Wrong Power

The Slayer was created in a time when monsters roamed the earth. A primevil power capable of defeating these demons and working on the side of good.

Black and white. Good and evil.

Not all slayers had watchers, not all slayers even knew of their powers, but what of those who did. What do we truely know about a watcher? Why do they want to help
the slayers? What is their history and what are their motives? Are they truely there to aid the slayers?

On many occassions Giles has witheld important information from Buffy. Recall the things Quentin put her through. Merrick was downright creepy and Wesley was just cruel in his treating of Faith. They are all people, they all make
choices.

But they all work for the Council.

Black and white. Good and evil. What about the grey in the world?

What if the Council made a wrong choice? They are meant to be fighting for the greater good. They are fighting for the people; fighting for the greater good. What if the council made a bad choice? What if instead of
supporting the people they felt that a truely evil power was the greater good? What if the council were supporting THE WRONG POWER?

Tired of the Council attempting to control her Buffy left them in season 3??? Although she allowed them back into the equation in season 5. Frustrated that they have no control over the slayer any more for the last year the council have been plotting to kill both Buffy and Faith at the same time. They discovered that if this possible then both Slayer's powers abilities and powers will be transferred into one potential. Creating THE ULTIMATE SLAYER - big battle ending anyone?

Only a slight problem. The Watcher's Council Headquarters was blown up. One person survived the blast.

The Watcher's Council had always feared that the day may come when a slayer is strong enough to survive without them. To work completely out of their control and was ultimately unbeatable. They had of course planned for it.

A core group of Watchers throughout the ages had been nominated to be frozen in time in order to deal with the situation should it ever arise. Burried in a secret vault
under the Watcher's Council Headquarters they lay dorment under a spell. Until the headquarters was blown up, breaking the spell on the vault and releasing them. Knowing that they would only be awoken should a slayer be out of the control of the council they instantly think that they slayer is responsible for destroying all watchers and they set off to restart the watchers council, destroy the current slayer and train a new slayer to obey them.

Aided by the sole surviver of the explosion. The four ultimate watchers are brought up to speed on the Slayers (both of them) desertion. They are told of the plan to destroy both slayers and re-create the slayer line with THE ULTIMATE SLAYER.

The Watcher's council are not evil. They are fighting for the greater good... their greater good. As an age old unit they've always believed that they are on the side of
good. That they are the one thing that can guide the slayer in the right direction, and help destroy the evil in the world. They cannot function in this time without a
slayer. They need a slayer they can control. They think they are good - doing the right thing, but times have changed, only they don't know it. They came from a world of

Black and white. Good and evil. What about the grey in the world?

What will they make of Anya and Spike? What about Willow and Faith embracing evil? What about Buffy's relationships with Angel and Spike? What about Giles abandoning the Council? What about Dawn - an ultimate power?

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I'll be adding more to this over the next few days. What do you think?

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