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The Independent Fulham Forum

Fulham Ladies -- Duke, Sunday, April 05, 01:07:01pm (NoHost/45.146.10.147)
With a little finance and better players they could get back in the big time, but Fulham being Fulhamish it wont happen.

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- Re: Fulham Ladies..womens under them Khans!.. didn't seem like they had any ambitions for the womens game a while abck. Alas after back2backpromotions. THE choice of the Khans NOT to enter FFC into the 'then' newly formed WPL when they expanded to 2 tiers.. does now seem A wasted/lost opportunty!! (NT) -- gone the long route for what?, Sunday, April 05, 02:52:24pm (ns5019341.ip-15-235-118.net/15.235.118.219)
Romulo, in Leipzig, we were in for him last summer. Ripping it up in the Bundesliga. Why we didn't cash in on Muniz for 30 and buy him for 20 is beyond me. Shame on our transfer team -- Still no Sign of Silva extending, Sunday, April 05, 09:44:18am (NoHost/64.43.50.130)
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- Hindsight is a wonderful thing you moron (NT) -- Yawn, Sunday, April 05, 11:14:47am (NoHost/78.111.194.83)
  - with the exception of Kevin...........they shifted to 'MUST HAVE PL' experience players now!....... they dont have A scouting unit anymore do they? (NT) -- we talking Marcos era, Sunday, April 05, 11:24:07am (ns5019346.ip-15-235-118.net/15.235.118.222)
  - Stevie wonder could see muniz would be a flop and even he could've seen we needed a proper mitro replacement (NT) -- Silva out, Sunday, April 05, 03:37:34pm (NoHost/147.93.215.197)
    - Ray Charles doesn’t agree. (NT) -- And he is possibly a genius, Sunday, April 05, 03:55:26pm (NoHost/31.94.74.17)
      - Bocelli falls asleep watching silva persist with Muniz (NT) -- Genius is subjective, Sunday, April 05, 04:59:07pm (NoHost/147.93.215.190)
    - This board has plenty of Stevie Wonders who think Muniz is amazing (NT) -- Mumbles, Sunday, April 05, 04:21:48pm (4e5686f5.skybroadband.com/78.86.134.245)
- 7 in 24 in the German league, which is more akin to championship than premier league standard, hardly screaming oh god what a clanger. (NT) -- Henry1879, Sunday, April 05, 12:27:04pm (cpc113818-lea23-2-0-cust423.6-3.cable.virginm.net/86.27.157.168)
If you Remember early season. -- Kimberly-Clark, Sunday, April 05, 07:25:08am (host-2-102-164-149.as13285.net/2.102.164.149)
Cambridge at home in the Cup early season a lesson never learnt against Soton last month.

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FA CUP -- Depressed, Saturday, April 04, 09:58:08pm (host81-159-178-64.range81-159.btcentralplus.com/81.159.178.64)
Just shows what an idiot Marco was in not playing a full strength team against Southampton.

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- Irrelevant, we would have rolled over against Arsenal! (NT) -- Phil, Saturday, April 04, 10:29:48pm (saphil.plus.com/31.125.165.251)
- Just like silva he played a weaker team im sure if they played us he would've played a fuller strength team but they should still be rolling Southampton over who im sure will end up getting city in the next round unfortunately (NT) -- Wasted opportunity, Saturday, April 04, 11:41:08pm (NoHost/217.216.60.155)
- Re: FA CUP (NT) -- Nice to have chance but Arsenal would beat us, Sunday, April 05, 01:48:47am (host-2-102-164-149.as13285.net/2.102.164.149)
- Southampton were good against us and better against Arsenal. They're on a long unbeaten run and under this manager they look impressive and likeable. I hope they get promotion. (NT) -- The Man With No Name, Sunday, April 05, 08:35:04am (host81-141-119-135.range81-141.btcentralplus.com/81.141.119.135)
  - I don’t really backward obnoxious fans in my experience.Everybody uses their squad these days. (NT) -- HemelRog, Sunday, April 05, 10:20:01am (NoHost/31.94.74.17)
  - I don't. can't stand them. Up themselves and remarkably unsuccessdul historically considering their geographical advantages of one club city and being in the south. They play crap football too, probably make the play offs in a really weak league but hoping Boro, Ipswich or Millwall will sort them out. Irritating manager as well. (NT) -- Rupert, Sunday, April 05, 10:20:05am (NoHost/90.214.26.165)
  - Re: Southampton were good against us and better against Arsenal. They're on a long unbeaten run and under this manager they look impressive and likeable. I hope they get promotion. (NT) -- Don’t won’t them promoted if they are good, Sunday, April 05, 12:28:58pm (host-2-102-164-149.as13285.net/2.102.164.149)
- Both underestimated how dangerous it is to come up against a team in red hot form, they could be an outside bet for 2nd the way they have been playing (NT) -- Waterboy, Sunday, April 05, 09:15:31am (NoHost/84.69.21.189)
- For about 25 minutes in the 1st half Arse were all over them. Had they scored then methinks curtains for Saints. How poor was White (NT) -- Al, Sunday, April 05, 11:05:35am (cust-51.179.197.130.cgn.as5482.net/51.179.197.130)
- How phenomenal is Dowman for his age. (NT) -- HemelRog, Sunday, April 05, 12:05:22pm (NoHost/31.94.74.16)
  - Did you see the Guardian article which showed he had genealogical links to George Male who won six titles with Arsenal in the 1930s and was a regular for England. The Dowman family hadn't known that. (NT) -- The Man With No Name, Sunday, April 05, 01:03:04pm (host81-141-119-135.range81-141.btcentralplus.com/81.141.119.135)
    - Yep saw that.Love the way he just runs with the ball at paced defences.Bit old school bet some managers/coaches wouldn’t approve. (NT) -- HemelRog, Sunday, April 05, 01:11:51pm (NoHost/31.94.74.16)
      - Very George Best like actually. (NT) -- The Man With No Name, Sunday, April 05, 01:16:23pm (host81-141-119-135.range81-141.btcentralplus.com/81.141.119.135)
      - Joy to watch. Hope there’s no pressure on him as he develops to change his approach to the game. (NT) -- Bexhill Beast, Sunday, April 05, 04:01:59pm (host31-126-124-87.range31-126.btcentralplus.com/31.126.124.87)
Paul’s of Stoke -- Basket Case., Saturday, April 04, 06:29:42pm (host-2-102-164-149.as13285.net/2.102.164.149)
Are they the biggest Coach Company in the Country. Never seen one Company with the amount of Coaches they supplied at Walham Green this evening.

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Why don't we sign players from the championship? The last I remember is Robinson -- GN10APRIL, Friday, April 03, 01:32:20pm (tenths.edgyage.com/154.16.157.161)
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- Perhaps because if you buy too many players from the Championship, you end up playing in the Championship. (NT) -- GTS, Friday, April 03, 02:10:04pm (NoHost/94.14.186.219)
  - He’s not suggesting ‘too many ‘ is he ? I give you Bowen and Wharton for starters ; both costing £20 million and both PL Successes . Having said that, perish the thought our DoF should consider a League so far beneath him . (NT) -- Mickey, Friday, April 03, 02:32:12pm (host86-142-52-97.range86-142.btcentralplus.com/86.142.52.97)
    - so 2 out of how many have been a success and both of those were more then a few years ago. (NT) -- me, Saturday, April 04, 12:26:22am (host86-151-207-147.range86-151.btcentralplus.com/86.151.207.147)
      - Wharton was that long ago and not answer your question Maddison Watkins olise and eze gyokeres obviously has done well and players like hackney rudoni wright etc have all been linked to the prem and are having good careers atm face it the board don't want to invest in players like that they want ready made prem players just like silva wants so we sign rejects from bigger clubs (NT) -- you, Saturday, April 04, 12:47:58pm (87-120-102-88.madcom.al/87.120.102.88)
  - Are you able to read?where does it say sign only championship players? Eze wharton rogers even guehi was signed after performing for Swansea but we don't instead we want to spunk 30 mil on a broken striker from a league where players don't always tend to transition well to the prem (NT) -- Slow, Friday, April 03, 02:40:34pm (NoHost/217.216.60.212)
    - What a weird and over the top response, still if it keeps you happy etc (NT) -- GTS, Friday, April 03, 04:33:46pm (NoHost/94.14.186.219)
      - At least you managed to read that (NT) -- STG, Friday, April 03, 06:44:29pm (NoHost/83.229.26.242)
- I think we think we have found different market inefficiencies from our rivals who focus on abroad or lower leagues. First it was middle-aged (in footballer terms) players as everyone went for youth. Now I think its small technical players as everyone goes for size. As Marco clearly prefers more readymade players, I suspect we've landed on these types as good options all around. (NT) -- eganonoa, Friday, April 03, 03:24:27pm (NoHost/172.59.195.194)
- Many of his squad in Marco's 2nd and 3rd seasons were absolutely sourced from a Championship club -- called Fulham. As that proportion has declined, the question posed becomes a fairer one. And watching Bowen, Gykores and Semenyo score against us for Hull, Cov and Bristol City, it's not like none of us noticed their talent at the time. Reports" have sometimes "linked" us with Champs players, counter-suggestive of a policy ban, but agreed it's time for another. (NT) -- b+w g., Friday, April 03, 05:03:14pm (host81-159-223-62.range81-159.btcentralplus.com/81.159.223.62)
  - ..and talking of The Championship, congratulations to Fulham supporter George Wickens, who's played every minute of the season for the team that needs one more point to be mathematically certain of playing there next season. (NT) -- b+w g., Friday, April 03, 05:44:13pm (host81-159-223-62.range81-159.btcentralplus.com/81.159.223.62)
    - Re: ..and talking of The Championship, congratulations to Fulham supporter George Wickens, who's played every minute of the season for the team that needs one more point to be mathematically certain of playing there next season. (NT) -- Re sign George Wickens top keeper in the making., Friday, April 03, 07:13:50pm (NoHost/31.94.72.40)
  - Marco buys same type of unproven nippy wingers who he knows can’t all play at once .He will know he will be gone before we can tell if they are worth the £30m they all seem to cost . He will have a pretty good idea who is best . The obsession with Brazilians was interesting . Marco speaks Portuguese of course . And Willian was morphing into an agent before our eyes . (NT) -- alanos, Friday, April 03, 05:49:47pm (82-132-214-54.dab.02.net/82.132.214.54)
  - There was a time Fulham targeted club players of the year - from the championship. TC, Reeeeam to name but 2. It was an interesting philosophy which nore fruit - and arguably saved us from becoming the next QPR. There are nuggets to be found but identifying them is not an exact science and more luck than judgment I'd say. Look at Eze for instance - rubbish as a youngster at a host of clubs including ours. (NT) -- Rupert, Saturday, April 04, 08:31:47am (NoHost/90.214.26.165)
- I recall mentioning Eze for us when he was at QPR and getting slated on here. (NT) -- Ekw, Friday, April 03, 11:18:57pm (host109-152-220-212.range109-152.btcentralplus.com/109.152.220.212)
  - Happens all the time. (NT) -- GA, Friday, April 03, 11:46:42pm (ool-18b90125.dyn.optonline.net/24.185.1.37)
    - Bit of a weird one.Let go by Arsenal themselves,Fulham,Reading and Millwall before signing for The Bitters.You could see he was going to become a very good player. (NT) -- HemelRog, Saturday, April 04, 09:01:54am (NoHost/31.94.74.178)
- You're right, 3 games over Easter once was the norm. My first Fulham game was Good Friday 1959. Beat Sheff Wed 6-2, then played Grimsby at home on the Saturday and Sheffield Wed away on the Monday. (NT) -- Crafty Cottager, Sunday, April 05, 08:36:38am (customer.lndngbr1.isp.starlink.com/145.224.66.154)
Easter Fixtures (or lack of them). -- Hammersmithender, Thursday, April 02, 09:02:42pm (NoHost/84.207.203.52)
Years ago Easter was a big fixture in the football calendar, on a par with Christmas fixtures. 3 games on Friday, Saturday and the Monday and the Friday and Monday games a double header. Easter Monday was considered an especially big day like Boxing Day. How times have changed. This year, no games at all. The upside is I can enjoy the Easter weekend and not have to worry about Fulham.

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- Indeed ; though it’s all hotting up in the Championship : Milllllll on live mainstream tv tomorrow lunchtime at Boro, as the fight for that 2nd Auto place really intensifies (NT) -- Mickey, Thursday, April 02, 09:14:55pm (host86-142-52-97.range86-142.btcentralplus.com/86.142.52.97)
- Remember going to 3 games with my dad one Good Friday in the 70s. Fulham in the morning, Chelsea in the afternoon and then Colchester in the evening! (NT) -- Bexhill Beast, Friday, April 03, 07:30:13am (host31-126-124-87.range31-126.btcentralplus.com/31.126.124.87)
  - Why did they play in the morning and at what time? (NT) -- Hammersmithender, Friday, April 03, 08:22:58am (NoHost/31.94.12.225)
    - Good question. Can’t recall the opponents now so will have to do some research. Pretty sure I’ve got it the right way round. (NT) -- Bexhill Beast, Friday, April 03, 10:08:17am (host31-126-124-87.range31-126.btcentralplus.com/31.126.124.87)
      - If Chelsea were at home as well, perhaps to avoid a clash. (NT) -- Hammersmithender, Friday, April 03, 10:24:18am (NoHost/31.94.12.225)
    - 11am (NT) -- probably police guidance, Friday, April 03, 10:21:00am (host86-184-57-142.range86-184.btcentralplus.com/86.184.57.142)
    - Not sure if this is the one to which I referred above, but we played Sheffield United on Good Friday 1978 at 11:15. (NT) -- Bexhill Beast, Friday, April 03, 11:26:23am (host31-126-124-87.range31-126.btcentralplus.com/31.126.124.87)
  - Yep seem to recall our lot going to three games in a day. (NT) -- HemelRog, Friday, April 03, 10:24:59am (NoHost/31.94.74.18)
- I was thinking about this yesterday - Friday, Saturday, Monday for most teams - it was bonkers when you think about it and not a good idea. I hate the way they;ve reduced the product over the years - Premier League should be 22 teams for instance with more evening games and less pointless internationals - but 3 games in 4 days was going too far and would have cost many teams with less depth - including Fulham - promotions, honours etc. (NT) -- Rupert, Friday, April 03, 07:59:16am (NoHost/90.214.26.165)
  - That 63 double header against Ipswich the players were drinking until the early hours in their hotel on the Sunday evening. They clearly hadn't used up all their energy on the Friday and Saturday. (NT) -- Hammersmithender, Friday, April 03, 09:45:59am (NoHost/31.94.12.225)
- Massive crowds over Easter historically. Of course that’s changed with the premier league. And with us in the doldrums of lower leagues (NT) -- CB, Friday, April 03, 08:54:56am (213-18-164-159.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.164.159)
  - I remember going to an Easter Monday home game against Man U and 47,000 attendance. All ticket as well, which was unusual back then. (NT) -- Hammersmithender, Friday, April 03, 09:38:32am (NoHost/31.94.12.225)
    - Re: I remember going to an Easter Monday home game against Man U and 47,000 attendance. All ticket as well, which was unusual back then. -- PB, Friday, April 03, 12:33:56pm (host86-145-52-204.range86-145.btcentralplus.com/86.145.52.204)
      - I went to the 2-2 game and definitely remember having to get a ticket for the game. Are you saying the 2-2 game wasn't all ticket. (NT) -- Hammersmithender, Friday, April 03, 01:22:05pm (NoHost/31.96.138.89)
        
        I can't recall it all ticket? 27/3/67 2-2 as you say. Not my only 47k attendance at the cottage. Numbers Khans could only dream of. (NT) -- CB, Friday, April 03, 01:45:13pm (213-18-164-159.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.164.159)
        
        I remember that - very young at the time - one of my first memories of being at Fulham but not THE first! We were on the riverside - my brother and I near the front - and pretty sure our father and uncle paid on the day. Never remember them buying tickets in advance for any game. (NT) -- Rupert, Saturday, April 04, 08:37:12am (NoHost/90.214.26.165)
        
        Pretty sure the 0-4 67/8 United match was all ticket, as I remember a relative of mine being pleased he had a ticket. (NT) -- Spiny Norman, Sunday, April 05, 12:06:06pm (brnt-04-b2-v4wan-172338-cust956.vm7.cable.virginm.net/81.108.123.189)
- Re: Easter Fixtures (or lack of them). -- Jonathan, Friday, April 03, 09:49:48am (NoHost/104.28.40.143)
- I don't remember the 47K ManU match as all ticket. There were far too many people let in for safety and my memory is that the next game was Chelsea when the gates were shut with about 32K admitted and many thousands left outside. Back then of course we only had about four thousand seats with no specific permitted numbers for standing. (NT) -- The Man With No Name, Friday, April 03, 02:05:44pm (host81-141-119-135.range81-141.btcentralplus.com/81.141.119.135)
  - Definitely no ticket, and the most packed-in experienced prior to '75 semi-final at Hillsborough.. (NT) -- b+w g., Friday, April 03, 03:56:57pm (host81-159-223-62.range81-159.btcentralplus.com/81.159.223.62)
    - An unlucky few of us were packed-in at the other end with Brum fans! (NT) -- Bexhill Beast, Friday, April 03, 04:57:22pm (host31-126-124-87.range31-126.btcentralplus.com/31.126.124.87)
      - In which case Mitchell's cracker was right in front of you...Worse to have to stifle joy at that or feign it when they equalised? (NT) -- b+w g., Friday, April 03, 05:13:24pm (host81-159-223-62.range81-159.btcentralplus.com/81.159.223.62)
        
        No. His cracker was scored at the Fulham End (Leppings Lane). (NT) -- Hammersmithender, Friday, April 03, 06:28:41pm (NoHost/31.94.12.224)
      - Yes, I was given a ticket in the Brum end as well. There was about a 100 of us all huddled together with the police laughing at us from the perimeter. When Mitchel scored the Brum did start kicking at us. By the way Luckily JM,s goal was scored at the other end which made it a bit easier for us. (NT) -- Hammersmithender, Friday, April 03, 06:24:27pm (NoHost/31.94.12.224)
        
        Well well, my live memory apparently super-imposed by viewings of footage over the years since. Memory also compromised by the absolute physical mayhem that immediately followed at our end -- sardines in a jar ferociously poked. (NT) -- b+w g., Friday, April 03, 08:36:38pm (host81-159-223-62.range81-159.btcentralplus.com/81.159.223.62)
        
        Yes - Mitch went crowd surging among the Fulham fans. Unfortunately wasn't there. Mum wouldn't let us go! Bizarrely though she let us attend the replay which was much further and finished at God knows what time. Got home about 4am I think! That was a decent night. (NT) -- Rupert, Saturday, April 04, 08:40:33am (NoHost/90.214.26.165)
- Re: Easter Fixtures (or lack of them). (NT) -- Fulham 3-1 vs WG on Good Friday George Best class, Friday, April 03, 08:06:54pm (NoHost/31.94.72.41)
Why they HAVE to be relegated !🤬 -- Mickey, Thursday, April 02, 08:38:47pm (host86-142-52-97.range86-142.btcentralplus.com/86.142.52.97)
Didn’t take long if the usual gossip
Sites are to be believed :Wilson high on De Zerbi’s list . Whilst he prob will leave us , the thought of those ‘M-Effers’ getting one of our Heroes for me would open up past wounds. A thousand curses be upon them !🤬

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- You do realise that any Fulham player that ever transferred to Spurs is because the player wanted to go there. It's the players choice- blame them if you have to. (NT) -- Hammersmithender, Thursday, April 02, 09:09:36pm (NoHost/84.207.203.52)
- Not only does Mickey keep writing shite he obviously believes all the shite he reads as well. (NT) -- Just saying., Thursday, April 02, 09:21:12pm (NoHost/78.111.194.83)
- I would edge more towards him going to Villa? Likely Champions League Football and probably on a few sheckles more than we can offer? (NT) -- Gary, Thursday, April 02, 09:52:49pm (host86-160-146-78.range86-160.btcentralplus.com/86.160.146.78)
- I dont see wilson doing much elsewhere, he has been a bit part player for his whole career apart from this season. Muniz was another one season wonder for us and now look at him! (NT) -- Waterboy, Thursday, April 02, 10:00:36pm (NoHost/84.65.27.206)
  - Happen to agree on both points. (NT) -- CB, Thursday, April 02, 10:54:28pm (213-18-164-159.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.164.159)
  - H will be gobbled up and spat out if he leaves - he's had the season of his life because of Fulham - hopefully he'll see that. (NT) -- Rupert, Friday, April 03, 08:04:19am (NoHost/90.214.26.165)
    - Far from a one-season wonder, each of his 9 seasons with 4 clubs has done what counts most: delivered goods. 122 goals/assists in the equivalent of 206 full matches. Yes, this season's been his best in the Prem, with 16 goal involvements, 1 per 143 mins, but the previous two were in the same ball-park (g/a per 162 prem mins). Opportunity's been the new factor. He's been given more since improving out of possession. Now a more complete (hence covetable) proposition. (NT) -- b+w g., Friday, April 03, 10:26:28pm (host81-159-223-62.range81-159.btcentralplus.com/81.159.223.62)
  - Always had the potential but needed an extended run.Absolutely zilch reason he won’t score at another club.Muniz is recovering from injury and needs more minutes.Confidence player anyway needs a goal and will probably be fine. (NT) -- HemelRog, Friday, April 03, 10:30:04am (NoHost/31.94.74.18)
    - Yes, hardly fair to judge him over a season when he missed so many games due to injury and started in so few. (NT) -- Bexhill Beast, Friday, April 03, 11:31:51am (host31-126-124-87.range31-126.btcentralplus.com/31.126.124.87)
- Re: Why they HAVE to be relegated !🤬 (NT) -- H has been great at CC Away games he can struggle, Friday, April 03, 08:18:43pm (NoHost/31.94.72.40)
Plenty of financial wiggle room. The Bobb deal does look wasteful per the footnotes compared to actual performance. He verbally agreed to at least 5 goal contributions before season end for bonus payment -- Darren_Hammy, Thursday, April 02, 09:37:39am (NoHost/109.79.44.218)
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- That looks an odd clause as it relies on others actually scoring. I’d take the unders of 5 shots on goal at least (NT) -- bs, Thursday, April 02, 03:29:38pm (82-132-231-85.dab.02.net/82.132.231.85)
- What are the odds that he won't score 5 before the end of next season? (NT) -- Sean, Thursday, April 02, 05:14:31pm (cpc159747-finc22-2-0-cust115.4-2.cable.virginm.net/81.108.184.116)
- A better question, will Berge EVER score ( excluding OGs) (NT) -- FF43, Thursday, April 02, 06:21:52pm (host-80-46-1-168.as13285.net/80.46.1.168)
  - Not his job. (NT) -- GA, Thursday, April 02, 06:39:57pm (ool-18b90125.dyn.optonline.net/24.185.1.37)
    - Its everyones job to score. If only players whose ‘job’ it was to score scored, we’d get relegated. Oh, and wouldnt have had mcaree, davis, murphy, and many other moments. (NT) -- Same old story, Saturday, April 04, 10:22:32am (unn-143-244-44-165.datapacket.com/143.244.44.165)
      - Davis and Murphy were not purely defensive midfielders. Would like Berge to score but he's way down the list to expect goals like full backs are. (NT) -- JoeT, Saturday, April 04, 11:42:10pm (cpc96906-walt25-2-0-cust362.13-2.cable.virginm.net/82.13.233.107)
        
        Re: Davis and Murphy were not purely defensive midfielders. Would like Berge to score but he's way down the list to expect goals like full backs are not expected to score goals either (NT) -- JoeT, Saturday, April 04, 11:46:39pm (cpc96906-walt25-2-0-cust362.13-2.cable.virginm.net/82.13.233.107)
  - Will Muniz ? (NT) -- It’s his job, Thursday, April 02, 07:54:47pm (NoHost/90.216.99.103)
Estimated Final Placings. -- Kimberly- Clark, Thursday, April 02, 02:01:50am (host-2-102-164-149.as13285.net/2.102.164.149)
31 Games 44 Points -1 GD. With our Remaining 7 Fixtures to play what’s the prediction of Points and Final League position?

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- 51 & 12/13th (NT) -- Bexhill Beast, Thursday, April 02, 08:29:23am (host31-126-124-87.range31-126.btcentralplus.com/31.126.124.87)
- Yes, I reckon we could pick up 10 or so points, 7 maybe from our home games, and you would like to think we could pick a couple up from Brentford and Wolves. Can't really tell which Fulham team is going to turn up on any given day really. So hopefully top half. (NT) -- GTS, Thursday, April 02, 03:10:02pm (NoHost/94.14.186.219)
- Thinking 6 but could squeeze 8. (NT) -- CB, Thursday, April 02, 05:45:11pm (213-18-164-159.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.164.159)
- Re: Estimated Final Placings. (NT) -- 53pts 10/11, Thursday, April 02, 06:46:18pm (NoHost/31.94.72.40)
- 52 - 10th (NT) -- Waterboy, Thursday, April 02, 10:11:27pm (NoHost/84.65.27.206)
Scott Parker sacked? -- SCA, Wednesday, April 01, 07:44:13pm (NoHost/90.196.13.114)
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- Nothing on the internet to say he has been sacked, mind you it would hardly be surprising if it did happen. (NT) -- Block E, Wednesday, April 01, 08:11:26pm (host86-178-193-240.range86-178.btcentralplus.com/86.178.193.240)
  - I had a sky sports breaking news feature come up in my news feed. Hadn’t seen it anywhere else hence the question mark. Could be fake, stand down, nothing to see here. (NT) -- SCA, Wednesday, April 01, 08:16:04pm (NoHost/90.196.13.114)
- Even he doesn’t deserve that. Fake news. (NT) -- CB, Wednesday, April 01, 09:46:03pm (213-18-164-159.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.164.159)
- Re: Scott Parker sacked? (NT) -- Being told Tosin coming back to South Fulham., Thursday, April 02, 02:52:23am (host-2-102-164-149.as13285.net/2.102.164.149)
  - Bring back Tosin? Um no! And South Fulham? West if anything. (NT) -- Travelex, Thursday, April 02, 08:08:04pm (NoHost/185.61.158.135)
- He left years ago (NT) -- Keep up, Thursday, April 02, 10:12:20am (NoHost/90.216.99.103)
Latest Accountst -- Same Old Story, Wednesday, April 01, 01:54:50pm (NoHost/90.241.79.67)
Now filed, but unavailable to view for 2 or 3 days.

Club have posted a small summary, revenue up £8m to £194m, total below EBIT loss of £44.5 (up £10m, but includes all costs, so well within limits -
Growth in revenue likely to be predominantly the 2 extra league places, with a bit of a top up from the riverside being fully open.

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- Does that change the prediction of how much loss we could theoretically jam into this year's final PSR window (NT) -- eganonoa, Wednesday, April 01, 02:04:44pm (NoHost/172.59.188.128)
  - At a very high level no, its broadly in line with expectations, but devils in the detail, which isnt available yet. Cant see what our wages are, disposal/aquisition of registrations etc. basically all of the variable components within the high level are unknown until the detail is released from pending. (NT) -- Same old story, Wednesday, April 01, 03:03:06pm (NoHost/148.252.146.141)
    - . (NT) -- eganonoa, Wednesday, April 01, 04:43:05pm (NoHost/172.59.188.128)
- Chelsea posted a loss of £262.4 million for 24/25. Impressive (NT) -- old codger, Wednesday, April 01, 03:49:17pm (86-3-237-96.pon.virginmedia.net/86.3.237.96)
De zerbi/Silva situation and Spurs, article in the Athletic -- Henry1879, Wednesday, April 01, 11:16:19am (cpc113818-lea23-2-0-cust423.6-3.cable.virginm.net/86.27.157.168)
But he was not the only candidate Spurs were looking at. There was another manager on their radar, someone who was proven in the Premier League, someone who Spurs had looked very hard at more than once before. And that was Marco Silva at Fulham.
This is Silva’s fifth season at Fulham and the last on his current contract. He has taken them from the Championship and given them the Premier League permanence they had craved for so long, playing some attractive football while also operating within PSR limitations.”

“It is a hugely impressive body of work which has naturally attracted some bigger Premier League teams along the way. Tottenham looked at Silva at the end of the 2022-23 season, and he got down to the last three candidates before the club eventually went for Postecoglou.
Then, at the end of last season, when Postecoglou was on his way out, Spurs looked at Silva again. By the end of the process, it was either him or Thomas Frank. And Spurs went with Frank.
The question was whether, now in March 2026, at the third time of asking, Silva might finally end up in north London. Tottenham never made an official approach, but explored the possibility via intermediaries. The indications were that Silva’s camp were interested in the opportunity. As it stands, remember, Silva is out of contract in a few weeks’ time. Tottenham might have offered him a better deal long into the future.
But the decisive factor was Fulham’s own stance. They would not countenance losing their popular manager, their best of the modern era, to a Premier League rival during the course of the season. Certainly not without significant compensation. Fulham still want Silva to sign”

“So even though this never got to the point of an official club-to-club approach, Fulham always knew that ultimately the power lay in their hands. Premier League Rule J.3 states that managers and coaches cannot simply quit one Premier League (or EFL) club and move to another “without the consent” of the club they work for. So Fulham knew that they could effectively block any proposed move.”

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- Re: De zerbi/Silva situation and Spurs, article in the Athletic (NT) -- If the Money was right that could’ve happened, Wednesday, April 01, 11:21:52am (host-2-102-164-149.as13285.net/2.102.164.149)
- Ive found that we used to play attractive football, first 2 seasons, now its become very side to side, out to wingers who cant cross a ball and wont shoot all very predictable (NT) -- Waterboy, Wednesday, April 01, 11:29:05am (NoHost/90.243.152.132)
  - Excuse me? (NT) -- Harry Wilson, Wednesday, April 01, 05:27:56pm (NoHost/212.132.246.99)
- There has to be a reason why he's falling at the last hurdle so often... what is it that goes against him in the end? (NT) -- SCA, Wednesday, April 01, 12:11:20pm (NoHost/90.196.13.114)
  - ...and, if he's so desperate to leave, I don't want him here anyway. (NT) -- SCA, Wednesday, April 01, 12:14:01pm (NoHost/90.196.13.114)
- So he's been turned down twice but held on for third time lucky? Doesn't ring true to me. And if true, if I was his employer, I'd want him out. (NT) -- The Man With No Name, Wednesday, April 01, 12:26:13pm (host81-141-119-135.range81-141.btcentralplus.com/81.141.119.135)
  - Yep, if i was rich enough to own a premier league club, the one thing i would absolutely not accept is a manager who is constantly fluttering his eyelashes at other clubs. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Wednesday, April 01, 12:47:19pm (NoHost/90.241.79.67)
    - Leaves very few to choose from. (NT) -- MH, Wednesday, April 01, 01:01:42pm (202-172-96-123-cpe.spintel.net.au/202.172.96.123)
      - it is what it is. It'll never change if clubs/chairmen constantly put up with it and let them do it. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Wednesday, April 01, 01:41:55pm (NoHost/90.241.79.67)
- Have to admit as a big fan of Marco, I'm becoming lukewarm by the day and close to wanting him to go. In Trump speak will give him 2 weeks. Imagine we will be deflated if he says he's staying at last home game (NT) -- cb, Wednesday, April 01, 01:20:07pm (213-18-164-159.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.164.159)
- Low scope for outrage and even less for surprise, but (with maybe a brief pause to make it less blatantly contingent on the De Zerbi hire) it's now deadline time for him to stick or twist. (NT) -- b+w g., Wednesday, April 01, 07:05:20pm (host81-159-223-62.range81-159.btcentralplus.com/81.159.223.62)
NFR England -- Lib Hen (He / Him) [GMT] (😷💉🏳‍🌈✊🏿🌍), Tuesday, March 31, 10:28:30pm (NoHost/45.139.252.115)
A really disappointing result for England. You watch a game like that and it just feels inevitable that the goal is going to come. All that control, all that time on the ball, and then somehow it just doesn't. To end up losing 0-1 to Japan after all that is genuinely deflating.

It does make you wonder though - how much worse could it have been if England weren't strengthened by diversity, or if Japan were?!

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- No one watches the friendlies as long as none of our players get injured I couldn't care less (NT) -- Club over country, Tuesday, March 31, 10:39:26pm (NoHost/147.93.215.193)
- Did seem a bit unfair that the Japanese team was full…. of Japanese players (NT) -- bs, Tuesday, March 31, 11:02:06pm (82-132-229-217.dab.02.net/82.132.229.217)
- How Trent isn’t in the squad is ridiculous his passing can open teams up from anywhere on the pitch (NT) -- Button, Tuesday, March 31, 11:12:38pm (NoHost/85.255.235.221)
- For the modern footballer internationals are something they can do without - look at Italy and their catalogue of failures - are they bothered - not really - rather be sunning themselves than performing in over-bloated kick-a-bouts. (NT) -- Rupert, Wednesday, April 01, 08:32:29am (NoHost/90.214.26.165)
  - I was in Italy for their win over N Ireland, they really do care. (NT) -- Jim© The Devon IP, Wednesday, April 01, 08:57:57am (62-64-192-58.virtual1.co.uk/62.64.192.58)
    - Re: I was in Italy for their win over N Irelan........... haha just like you was in dublin when LEgendary Cf thierry wife cheater handed them balls.... same as you claimed 3 users on tiff ... how likey them man whom drove home 80mph just to post on tiff after CC home game........ is to be in Bergamo for match? <<< we aint fools you nose! (NT) -- knotty fallen fortnight them ones, Wednesday, April 01, 11:06:54am (ns5019346.ip-15-235-118.net/15.235.118.222)
      - Word scrabble. Where does it say I was in Bergamo? Never said I was in Dublin. How's that stand that will never be built? Mongy dickhead. (NT) -- Jim© The Devon IP, Wednesday, April 01, 11:14:15am (62-64-192-58.virtual1.co.uk/62.64.192.58)
- The Japanesse recognise a respect their own culture and anthem. Our diverse players don't their lips don't move during OUR National Anthem . (NT) -- FF43, Thursday, April 02, 06:39:25pm (host-80-46-1-168.as13285.net/80.46.1.168)
Joachim scores first for Denmark. Now penalties -- CB, Tuesday, March 31, 10:21:08pm (213-18-164-159.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.164.159)
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Get the Japanese manager after the World Cup and bring some of their players -- Off silva goes, Tuesday, March 31, 09:24:12pm (NoHost/45.80.28.34)
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- Re: Get the Japanese ma.. butt the Koreans r them superior footballing / well overall Nation...... plus Fulham is their team via New Malden . get Son and his mates. forget the japs (NT) -- sunday leaguye, Tuesday, March 31, 09:44:20pm (ns565314.ip-54-39-133.net/54.39.133.107)
De -Zerbi….. -- Mickey, Tuesday, March 31, 03:17:30pm (82-132-229-121.dab.02.net/82.132.229.121)
If you’re a Spurs Fan would you be happy at this alleged proposal of a 5 Year Contract with a Relegation ‘Get-Out’ Clause? Would his brand of football suddenly be implemented in order to save them ? The Polls I’ve seen on some of their Fansites seem to indicate a negative response , remembering also he most certainly is Not a ‘Yes-Man’. Hopefully they’ll be in the bottom 3 the morning of their next match ( WHU v Wolves on the Fri), and I believe /hope that there they will remain . For all those ( our) Players they ruined , for all the delusions of grandeur , for all the arrogance and denials . Catastrophic it would would most certainly be ….

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- Don’t think he’s lasted anywhere more than 18 months. Only now signing because a huge bonus if they stay up. Plus has said he won’t manage in the championship. Add on he signed Greenwood with out an issue and the natives are restless… (NT) -- woodman, Tuesday, March 31, 03:23:26pm (NoHost/46.31.84.144)
- Who cares? (NT) -- The Fulham fans, Tuesday, March 31, 03:28:55pm (NoHost/90.204.91.94)
  - Anyone of us who was at the cup replay on January 11, 1984.at White Hart Lane. (NT) -- TT, Tuesday, March 31, 04:33:01pm (NoHost/96.93.86.134)
    - Was that when Roberts kicked lumps out of us?Spurs mates thought our support was terrific. (NT) -- HemelRog, Tuesday, March 31, 04:52:40pm (NoHost/31.94.12.68)
      - Not just Roberts but the whole lot of them. Headlines the next day "First Division Thuggery"... (NT) -- TT, Tuesday, March 31, 06:40:17pm (NoHost/96.93.86.134)
    - We were excellent over both games and yes our support at WHL was fantastic. Kicked us black and blue during the game though. . (NT) -- Harry68, Tuesday, March 31, 07:31:42pm (cpc160099-nmal26-2-0-cust805.19-2.cable.virginm.net/82.18.163.38)
      - And Malcolm Macdonald didn't hold back when interviewed after the game... (NT) -- TT, Tuesday, March 31, 07:55:01pm (NoHost/96.93.86.134)
    - I remember it well. Fantastic atmosphere in the away end. We played so well and deserved to win. (NT) -- Mr Kurkuruza, Tuesday, March 31, 10:39:24pm (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
    - Family had always had a soft spot for Spurs going back to the 60s. It ended that night. Roberts, Miller, Stevens etc went to town on Rosenior, my old man was going mental. Stemmed from Leroy going in late on Clemence in the first game, nothing nasty just youthful exuberance..The highlights are on YouTube, you can Stevens going right through the back of Rosenior and Alan Parry saying that's one of many he's had. Few more Fulham fans there than I remembered too (NT) -- TSW, Wednesday, April 01, 09:18:13am (NoHost/31.94.26.88)
- BBC just now reporting he's signed. You can only hope it all goes pear-shaped. What's more of interest to me though, is how does this effect Silva's possible expectations of landing that job and his future contract extension here? (NT) -- SCA, Tuesday, March 31, 03:56:40pm (NoHost/90.196.13.114)
- It’s Spurs Mickey so why should we give a shit. (NT) -- Just asking, Tuesday, March 31, 04:09:28pm (NoHost/78.111.194.83)
- Sky are reporting he doesn't have a get out clause (NT) -- Other c, Tuesday, March 31, 04:31:50pm (4e5629ba.skybroadband.com/78.86.41.186)
- So Spurs first home fixture with De Zerbi in charge ? None other than his previous club….it’s gonna be emotional. (NT) -- Bad Boy, Tuesday, March 31, 04:44:14pm (NoHost/2.126.58.251)
  - I’d like De Zerbi and Spurs to get slaughtered. Unfortunately Brighton are immediately below us in the table, so dropping 3 points v Spurs would be helpful. (NT) -- Bad Boy, Tuesday, March 31, 04:48:33pm (NoHost/2.126.58.251)
- I'd love Spurs to go down and suspect that won't be a management issue but whether West Ham can manage a few wins. If they can't then their relegation would be a good consolation prize. De Zerbi has to make more sense than an aged Spurs legend the players won't have heard of. (NT) -- The Man With No Name, Tuesday, March 31, 05:05:22pm (host81-141-119-135.range81-141.btcentralplus.com/81.141.119.135)
- Well said. Not a club I hate more than that lot. Horrible, horrible bunch (NT) -- Ibizaaaaaaa, Tuesday, March 31, 06:08:21pm (NoHost/161.12.62.42)
- This seems a bit like when Silva signed he had a media reputation of being a 🐍 and Fulham fans weren’t that happy with his appointment I rembrr Fulham fans wanted Cooper in . If he keeps them up great appointment but the way he plays is risk v reward which in a relegation battle isn’t a great idea all will be revealed (NT) -- Button, Tuesday, March 31, 06:16:52pm (nmal-23-b2-v4wan-169190-cust1261.vm24.cable.virginm.net/80.5.116.238)
  - Spurs Fans never seem to be happy tbh! They really want Pochettino back , and for me hiring a De Zerbi type who might not manage to implement his style for a Relegation Scrap, is quite risky . However Should they stay up , then I doubt whether they will revisit this territory again in a hurry (NT) -- Mickey, Tuesday, March 31, 06:31:04pm (82-132-229-121.dab.02.net/82.132.229.121)
- What’s the alternative? People always saying X or Y is risky or wrong, but there is no great solution, choice is limited with such a short period and potential of relegation. Always think it’s overblown generally too, even if they go down and lose loads of revenue they’ll sell some and keep some, have best team in the champ, probs come back up and be like when Newcastle went down. (NT) -- Henry1879, Tuesday, March 31, 07:09:47pm (cpc113818-lea23-2-0-cust423.6-3.cable.virginm.net/86.27.157.168)
- Some group called Women from the Lane - yep - me too - already want him out because he didn't obliterate Mason Greenwood - what was he spose to say? - you couldn't make it up. (NT) -- Rupert, Wednesday, April 01, 08:36:19am (NoHost/90.214.26.165)
  - You OK with rape and rapists then? (NT) -- The Man With No Name, Wednesday, April 01, 09:24:09am (host81-141-119-135.range81-141.btcentralplus.com/81.141.119.135)
    - Well the charges were dropped to be fair. And the Spurs fans have been waving Israeli flags which is hardly a country where their morals at this moment in time are beyond reproach. (NT) -- Jim© The Devon IP, Wednesday, April 01, 10:06:53am (62-64-192-58.virtual1.co.uk/62.64.192.58)
      - It seems the charges were dropped because the victim didn't want to proceed. Could be for any number of reasons but Greenwood is regarded as a pariah by English clubs and the FA. I doubt anyone on here would accept him at Fulham. I think Spurs fans are entitled to be unhappy with De Zerbi. Israel? IMO actions beyond wicked from Netanyahu and his supporters. I'm Jewish and am appalled by what Israel has become. (NT) -- The Man With No Name, Wednesday, April 01, 10:32:05am (host81-141-119-135.range81-141.btcentralplus.com/81.141.119.135)
        
        Yeah, i get that re charges dropped, could be for any reason. But should he be treated like a pariah, who knows, no one really. (NT) -- Jim© The Devon IP, Wednesday, April 01, 11:15:55am (62-64-192-58.virtual1.co.uk/62.64.192.58)
        
        People in the know know and that would certainly include the powers in charge at ManU at the time and probably the players. I've read nothing from them supportive of Greenwood. (NT) -- The Man With No Name, Wednesday, April 01, 11:32:02am (host81-141-119-135.range81-141.btcentralplus.com/81.141.119.135)
        
        I am not sure you are quite on this, The Man With No Name. Spurs have hired De Zerbi, not Mason Greenwood, and when De Zerbi was asked about him during a press conference, he kind of sat on the fence, which he had to do for obvious reasons. (NT) -- Rupert, Thursday, April 02, 10:27:30am (NoHost/90.214.26.165)
        
        No. He offered Greenwood effusive support. No fence sitting. Maybe it was expediency and he didn't mean it. If so that may be worse IMO. (NT) -- The Man With No Name, Thursday, April 02, 11:02:03am (host81-141-119-135.range81-141.btcentralplus.com/81.141.119.135)
Dear Moderator. -- FFC old boy, Monday, March 30, 03:50:59pm (NoHost/31.94.72.40)
Why am I limited to a Max 50 letter reply?

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- I dont know, but I think you get more if you reply in the subject field? (NT) -- Chaldon, Tuesday, March 31, 10:08:04am (92.40.173.126.threembb.co.uk/92.40.173.126)
- Re: Dear Moderator. -- Basket Case, Tuesday, March 31, 09:27:43pm (host-2-102-164-149.as13285.net/2.102.164.149)
Do you think MS will sign a new contract & stay if FFC manage to get into Europe? Is that what he's waiting for (or Spurs), & if so will Harry Wilson then sign? -- Ben, Monday, March 30, 01:36:46pm (NoHost/176.25.236.25)
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- Deja Vu (NT) -- Whats the point, Monday, March 30, 02:21:45pm (NoHost/91.242.215.67)
Bracewell -- P, Sunday, March 29, 10:20:52pm (NoHost/90.210.24.210)
Woking Football Club is pleased to confirm the appointment of Jermain Defoe as the club’s new Manager.

Coaching Team:

Defoe will be supported by Assistant Coach Paul Bracewell, who joins the club with extensive experience, including roles at Fulham FC, Sunderland AFC and Halifax Town AFC.

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- About both.... -- b+w g., Sunday, March 29, 11:55:02pm (host81-159-223-62.range81-159.btcentralplus.com/81.159.223.62)
- Filbert St 2000 - probably our best chance to win a pot - two up with five minutes left - I was there - they only went on to win the thing - little known fact - Stefan Oakes played - his dad of Showaddywaddy has just died - RIP. (NT) -- Rupert, Monday, March 30, 09:07:16am (NoHost/90.214.26.165)
- Great news for Woking fans. My birth town. Remember their FA Amateur Cup win of 1958 and FA Cup giant killings. I wonder if Olly Sanderson will stay on? Like to see them make EFL for the first time ever. (NT) -- CB, Monday, March 30, 09:49:48am (213-18-164-159.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.164.159)
- Re: Bracewell (NT) -- Woking fans be ready for some 0-0, Monday, March 30, 03:45:59pm (NoHost/31.94.72.40)
- Re: Bracewell, sideways and backwards was invented by him and Andy Melville. (NT) -- FF43, Monday, March 30, 05:45:37pm (host-80-46-1-168.as13285.net/80.46.1.168)
  - Kevin Ball, surely? (NT) -- Same Old Story, Tuesday, March 31, 12:04:56pm (85-115-49-2.mailcontrol.com/85.115.49.2)
    - Melville was a much better player than Fulham fans used to give him credit for IMO. Good in the air, a tidy passer of the ball, everything used to get blamed on him. Hard for him taking over from Coleman. (NT) -- Jim© The Devon IP, Tuesday, March 31, 03:38:39pm (62-64-192-58.virtual1.co.uk/62.64.192.58)
    - Kevin Ball-ocks as we called him. Well past his prime and yet always got picked. (NT) -- Scott, Wednesday, April 01, 07:49:02am (host86-141-155-48.range86-141.btcentralplus.com/86.141.155.48)
Fulham women's team win promotion to the third tier! -- dd, Sunday, March 29, 10:11:33pm (NoHost/90.204.91.94)
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Just a thought…. -- Jimbo, Sunday, March 29, 07:40:15pm (cpc91486-slou5-2-0-cust1318.17-4.cable.virginm.net/82.13.157.39)
Fast forward 5 seasons and we are still a premier league club but no European finish or trophy in the cabinet.

Would you consider this success?

I certainly would not.

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- I think the question is would the Khans consider that a success , and for me the answer is a resounding Yes. (NT) -- Mickey, Sunday, March 29, 07:45:08pm (host86-142-52-97.range86-142.btcentralplus.com/86.142.52.97)
- Yes. Simple as. Objective achieved, 1er status retained. If and when Marco leaves we’ll have the same low bar ambitions….survival in the top tier. (NT) -- Bad Boy, Sunday, March 29, 08:36:02pm (NoHost/2.126.58.251)
- Absolutely. (NT) -- FlitwickFulham, Sunday, March 29, 08:47:38pm (flit-04-b2-v4wan-169180-cust2921.vm32.cable.virginm.net/81.96.171.106)
- Works for me (NT) -- Bexhill Beast, Sunday, March 29, 08:53:40pm (host31-126-124-87.range31-126.btcentralplus.com/31.126.124.87)
- If this means 10 consecutive seasons in the Premier League, then if course it's a success. (NT) -- Club Stooge, Sunday, March 29, 09:05:27pm (host81-152-41-25.range81-152.btcentralplus.com/81.152.41.25)
- If survival in the Premier League is the business objective with no European competition and no domestic silverware then who could blame Marco Silva for moving on to a club with higher ambitions. (NT) -- Windy Miller, Sunday, March 29, 09:48:55pm (host86-185-248-146.range86-185.btcentralplus.com/86.185.248.146)
- Staying in the Premier League is success in itself but going through a season with no relegation fears is outstanding for a club with our history and restricted by the financial regulations. Better, occasionally, is not out of the question but to expect us to morph into a consistently top six club is absurd. (NT) -- The Man With No Name, Sunday, March 29, 10:13:55pm (host81-141-119-135.range81-141.btcentralplus.com/81.141.119.135)
- Chances are that is our best option. Historically silverware out of our reach. Maybe a Euro place but I wouldn’t lose sleep over it (NT) -- CB, Sunday, March 29, 10:15:51pm (213-18-164-159.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.164.159)
- Pretty obvious that the more that we remain and build in the Premier league, the higher the chance of Europe or a trophy. Stability is welcome after ten years of very little. (NT) -- Jim©, Monday, March 30, 12:06:50am (host86-170-249-213.range86-170.btcentralplus.com/86.170.249.213)
  - Re: Pretty obvious that these are the most incompantont owners in sport? have plougged / lost A billon pounds into FFC. Still no swimming pool, no european football. no new training ground. Still losing tens of millions every year. PUTCC and MP up as assets on a LOAN. and tiff said 'best owners ever' lol (NT) -- oh you lucky people..., Monday, March 30, 03:38:39am (ns5030862.ip-148-113-178.net/148.113.178.132)
    - UR forgetting Spurs (NT) -- FlitwickFulham, Monday, March 30, 09:09:02am (flit-04-b2-v4wan-169180-cust2921.vm32.cable.virginm.net/81.96.171.106)
- Perhaps the supporters at Leicester might have a different view. (NT) -- old codger, Monday, March 30, 08:35:27am (86-3-237-96.pon.virginmedia.net/86.3.237.96)
- This is either a wind up from Hounslow or Shepherds Bush or a johnny come lately - is Fulham being in the Premier League a success? Er - let me have a think about that! (NT) -- Rupert, Monday, March 30, 09:36:12am (NoHost/90.214.26.165)
- Perhaps I am indeed in the minority but another 5 seasons of 12th finish bores the life out of me! Someone mentioned Leicester City…. Now they are struggling but in the last 10 years a Premier League title, FA Cup, Charity Shield and champions league campaign. Id swap ALL DAY LONG (NT) -- Jimbo, Monday, March 30, 12:22:05pm (cpc91486-slou5-2-0-cust1318.17-4.cable.virginm.net/82.13.157.39)
- I think it’s about right, European conversation only really started last season and only off the back of our ‘success’ so far. We’ve got a lot of monkey’s of our back, the Burnley double most recent broken a few club records and got stability (ish) that seems like a realistic platform to aim for better. (NT) -- FF, Monday, March 30, 12:53:42pm (82-132-213-37.dab.02.net/82.132.213.37)
  - I don't know what "aim for better" actually means. The club aims to win every game and finish as high as possible but there are financial realities and restraints. The real question is what is feasible for us and I think that's where we currently are. (NT) -- The Man With No Name, Monday, March 30, 03:21:17pm (host81-141-119-135.range81-141.btcentralplus.com/81.141.119.135)
    - Don’t be too sensible it isn’t allowed.Anyway still have to strive to improve.Personally I rather enjoy the championship.Perhaps not for too long periods though. (NT) -- LittleFulhamerRog, Monday, March 30, 06:53:33pm (NoHost/31.94.15.2)
      - In an ideal football world I'd have us win the Championship every year and politely decline to be promoted. (NT) -- The Man With No Name, Monday, March 30, 07:05:02pm (host81-141-119-135.range81-141.btcentralplus.com/81.141.119.135)
        
        Sounds pretty good to me.. (NT) -- HemelRog, Monday, March 30, 07:18:45pm (NoHost/31.94.15.3)
- Of course, playing at the top is everything. We dont need anymore championship medals! (NT) -- Waterboy, Monday, March 30, 05:21:38pm (NoHost/84.69.54.130)
- Every season in the Premier League is a success. (NT) -- FF43, Monday, March 30, 05:50:04pm (host-80-46-1-168.as13285.net/80.46.1.168)
- So long as we have some experiences of getting vaguely close, like a couple of quarter finals, then yes. It's the journey that matters (NT) -- M, Monday, March 30, 06:27:48pm (NoHost/46.183.109.177)
- Moyes time at Everton was considered a success and he won diddly squat. So yes in my opinion it’s been successful so far and just be careful what you wish for. (NT) -- Jimmy Features., Tuesday, March 31, 08:14:52pm (NoHost/176.25.86.227)
Spurs -- Andrew in Bath, Sunday, March 29, 03:52:29pm (33C6D3d4.skybroadband.com/51.198.211.212)
I think everyone should have the chance to manage in the PL ….. and considering the way Spurs are going, everyone will

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- They should poach Parker, he could try and our do himself and get two teams relegated from the Premier League at the same time....it's dem fine margins etc (NT) -- GTS, Sunday, March 29, 04:46:31pm (NoHost/94.14.186.219)
- Spurs might get a lifeline if Man City get a 60 point deduction this season as is being reported. (NT) -- Hammersmithender, Sunday, March 29, 04:50:07pm (NoHost/31.94.74.217)
  - Let's hope Man City get that next season.....be a shame if that kept either Spurs or WHU up... (NT) -- GTS, Sunday, March 29, 04:58:09pm (NoHost/94.14.186.219)
    - I agree. Also, if this season, it would give the title to Arsenal. Giving City a 30 point deduction next season and then the same again the season after would be even better. (NT) -- Hammersmithender, Sunday, March 29, 05:11:30pm (NoHost/31.94.74.217)
      - I don't agree about splitting the deduction - 2 seasons where they get 50 points instead of 80 just means two mid table finishes, and they could well get into europe anyway via cup competitions. A relegation and the resulting championship season (assuming they came straight back up) would be much more damaging. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Monday, March 30, 11:19:53am (NoHost/90.241.79.67)
        
        In that scenario would they get 50 points though. Inevitably their best players will leave, and starting the season on minus 30 points will surely deny their enthusiasm. I just feel that getting the hit in one season is something that a club with their resources could ride. Either way it will be a kick in the pants. (NT) -- Hammersmithender, Monday, March 30, 09:24:21pm (NoHost/31.94.74.217)
If results go their way PSV could win the Eredivisie next Saturday... -- G, Sunday, March 29, 01:35:22pm (NoHost/90.204.91.94)

...wonder if their stance on Pepi would change then i.e more inclined to agree to Fulham's terms?

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- Lot of money for a bloke who isn’t even Americas best or starting striker (NT) -- Hope we find better, Sunday, March 29, 03:59:33pm (NoHost/90.216.99.103)
  - He played the last 20 mins and looked like a little boy lost. But he did assist the 2nd goal. They were 5-1 down at the time though! (NT) -- GA, Sunday, March 29, 04:35:14pm (ool-18b90125.dyn.optonline.net/24.185.1.37)
    - If Him and Muniz lead our front line they will be the “lost boys” next year (NT) -- GoalShy, Sunday, March 29, 05:34:05pm (NoHost/90.216.99.103)
      - How much of this is Silva’s choice compared to that of the blessed DoF, who on securing the American Pin-Up Boy would be a national hero if he had a good WCup. As we’ve seen with a few Players and Managers, participation in CL is not a guarantee of PL Success. My guess is we Do sign him once our seasons are completed (NT) -- Mickey, Sunday, March 29, 05:44:35pm (82-132-230-248.dab.02.net/82.132.230.248)
        
        Why was Silva wanting us to buy all these unproven ( in prem ) £30m players when he clearly wanted to be off anyway . Smell test is all wrong . And getting the ageing winger in ex Chelsea changing from player to agent while we looked on . He was good his first year then he seemed to be here for his influence on the other Brazilians . (NT) -- alanos, Sunday, March 29, 11:00:46pm (82-132-214-236.dab.02.net/82.132.214.236)
        
        because buying proven, experienced premier league players like Andersen and Leno has left us with an increasingly small amount to work with because they are on big contracts with no resale value. Because younger players on smaller salaries will be absolutely critical when we shift to SCR. Its the correct strategy. Whether the players are correct is a different question, but the strategy passes the smell test as its the same strategy half the league use. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Tuesday, March 31, 09:52:42am (85-115-49-2.mailcontrol.com/85.115.49.2)
Top players -- Kimberly-Clark, Sunday, March 29, 10:46:07am (host-2-102-164-149.as13285.net/2.102.164.149)
Like Duff,Davies, and Murphy bought into Roy players like Bullard, Dempsey and even BobbyZ found it difficult. Brede and Hughes went to a different level.

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Roy Hodgson -- Kimberly- Clark, Sunday, March 29, 10:11:00am (host-2-102-164-149.as13285.net/2.102.164.149)
It appears the so called top players at Liverpool didn’t like his Regimental type training methods. If you listen to Brian McBride on Fulham Fix. When he took over at Fulham there was a lot of work on shape and organisation stuff and players were not happy with not having a ball to play with in Training. Once he moulded the team into shape the players started playing matches in Training. You either bought in with Roy or you moved on.I think he was probably the Best Manager in the Clubs history.

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- He wasn't the best manager. His football was a bit turgid. He seemed to set up the team for a home games as if we were playing away. That said he regimented the players he had well and got us to the Europa Final. But how we got away with beating Shakthar Donetsk is one of football's miracles! Jean Tigana laid down the modern template for FFC. His tenure was undermined by the ghastly Fayed whose behaviour appears to be a stain on our history but no one seems to want to talk about that. (NT) -- Fulham Man, Sunday, March 29, 07:37:59pm (host-2-102-160-85.as13285.net/2.102.160.85)
  - Re: He wasn't the best manager. His football was a bit turgid. He seemed to set up the team for a home games as if we were playing away. That said he regimented the players he had well and got us to the Europa Final. But how we got away with beating Shakthar Donetsk is one of football's miracles! Jean Tigana laid down the modern template for FFC. His tenure was undermined by the ghastly Fayed whose behaviour appears to be a stain on our history but no one seems to want to talk about that. -- Paul, Sunday, March 29, 10:03:28pm (host81-152-248-8.range81-152.btcentralplus.com/81.152.248.8)
    - It depends whether or not you consider a 'best' manager to be one who delivers results, or beautiful football. Personally i'm absolutely fine with functional football if it gets results (Micky Adams football was extremely basic, but what a season he delivered), so Hodgson was a great manager. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Monday, March 30, 03:22:57pm (NoHost/90.241.79.67)
- I’ve always disagreed with this viewpoint. Yes, no doubting away from home we were often a dull watch, but at home we played some free-flowing entertaining football. And let’s face it, much of the football we’ve played this season hasn’t always been easy on the eye. (NT) -- Bexhill Beast, Monday, March 30, 03:47:07pm (host31-126-124-87.range31-126.btcentralplus.com/31.126.124.87)
Roy -- woodman, Saturday, March 28, 08:19:49pm (NoHost/46.31.84.144)
Picking up on sentiments below I’m always surprised people think he shouldn’t have left for Liverpool. Madness despite the state they were in it would be ludicrous to turn down a job like that. And quite frankly how could he achieve more for us. Even during his good days we had a regular poster on here calling him senile (nice). It could have only gone downhill with Roy given what he achieved so I’m glad we never got to call for his head but can treat him as an absolute legend of our club. And having spoken to him a few times he is so appreciative of that. I mean yes if he walked out on us for Brentford give him some stick, but Liverpool? Let’s be real.

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- Quite agree, though perhaps he could have refrained from signing Senderos before he left! But yes, it’s easy to say in hindsight it was an ill-fated move but his stock was high and for him at the time it must have seemed an impossible opportunity to turn down. (NT) -- Bexhill Beast, Saturday, March 28, 08:33:33pm (host31-126-124-87.range31-126.btcentralplus.com/31.126.124.87)
  - Gotta disagree about Senderos. One thing was he always gave his all and something I don't think a lot of people realize is that he cared, he genuinely cared about the team... (NT) -- TT, Saturday, March 28, 09:10:36pm (NoHost/172.58.54.21)
    - 20,000 fans would've given their all (NT) -- Chris M, Sunday, March 29, 04:55:48pm (cpc161455-nmal26-2-0-cust914.19-2.cable.virginm.net/86.23.195.147)
  - Fully understand Roy taking the job as likely would not get to manage a club of their stature. Whether he was aware they were in a slight decline and he thought his pragmatic style would be the answer? They were never going to accept Roy’s style of play and he was doomed early. Our expectations compared to Liverpool’s are a million miles apart. (NT) -- Gary, Saturday, March 28, 09:20:28pm (host86-160-146-78.range86-160.btcentralplus.com/86.160.146.78)
    - Meant to also say that ars**ole of a journalist Tony Evans (Liverpool fan) even had a dig at Roy taking Bristol City job? Don’t think I’ve known any other journalist who publicly makes it known of his distaste in a football manager like he does! (NT) -- Gary, Saturday, March 28, 09:28:24pm (host86-160-146-78.range86-160.btcentralplus.com/86.160.146.78)
      - Yes, was going to mention in OP. Horrible horrible twat of a journalist. So bitter. (NT) -- woodman, Saturday, March 28, 09:40:48pm (cpc158567-haye26-2-0-cust402.17-4.cable.virginm.net/86.15.153.147)
- Whilst I can’t blame him for taking the job, it was clearly doomed to failure from the outset. Just gauging the fans views would have told him that he was on a hiding to nothing, and coming back for Koncheski was utter madness IMO. (NT) -- SCA, Saturday, March 28, 09:31:56pm (NoHost/90.196.13.114)
- +1 what more could he have acheived than a euro final, i know our league position suffered but we also had an fa cup quarter that season (NT) -- Waterboy, Saturday, March 28, 11:00:02pm (NoHost/90.244.127.245)
- I think you could argue that the ONLY success Hodgson had in England was with us. OK with Palace and West Brom perhaps. (NT) -- The Man With No Name, Saturday, March 28, 11:04:30pm (host81-141-119-135.range81-141.btcentralplus.com/81.141.119.135)
- I dunno. The move was so obviously doomed to failure, why would you put yourself through the humiliation? He didn't need the money, and it was only going to mar his reputation. (NT) -- MH, Sunday, March 29, 06:56:37am (202-172-96-115-cpe.spintel.net.au/202.172.96.115)
  - Re: I dunno. The move was so obviously doomed to failure, why would you put yourself through the humiliation? He didn't need the money, and it was only going to mar his reputation. (NT) -- We couldn’t get any further with or without Roy, Sunday, March 29, 10:59:56am (host-2-102-164-149.as13285.net/2.102.164.149)
    - That's not my point.I'm just saying the move to Liverpool was always doomed. (NT) -- MH, Sunday, March 29, 12:52:22pm (202-172-96-115-cpe.spintel.net.au/202.172.96.115)
- I agree with the OP and will have no whinges with our current man as and when he leaves. Clubs, after all, dispense with services when it suits them, and it's often in good part because supporters urge them to. Hodgson and FFC were good for each other, what's not to like? (NT) -- b+w g., Sunday, March 29, 08:57:24am (host81-159-223-62.range81-159.btcentralplus.com/81.159.223.62)
Woodrow goal and assist. -- Al, Saturday, March 28, 05:44:06pm (cust-51.179.194.73.cgn.as5482.net/51.179.194.73)
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RIP Foxy -- Scott, Saturday, March 28, 08:24:03am (NoHost/62.172.59.61)
It seems so long ago since that dreadful day at Gillingham. Matthew Fox, a young man many posters here will remember, lost his life outside the stadium aged only 24.

No one should go to a football match and never come home. Foxy's family and friends still follow Fulham as fanatically as he did and I wanted to pay tribute to him on this board.

Rest in peace, Foxy.

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- Used to see Foxy at loads of games, in particular I remember he was smoking a joint blatantly in the away terrace at some random friendly. To a 15 year old stoner at the time, he couldn’t have been much cooler to me! Such a character and one of those people that stood out in a crowd. It must’ve been hell for his family and friends at the time and I’m so glad to hear they managed to still support FFC. Thanks for the post and I hope I get to smoke one with you one day Foxy. (NT) -- Just visiting, Saturday, March 28, 09:22:42am (host86-168-84-174.range86-168.btcentralplus.com/86.168.84.174)
- Such a tragedy,was at the game everyman and his dog in Kent came to the game.The fella who struck the blow was from Whitstable. RIP Foxy (NT) -- Ekw, Saturday, March 28, 02:02:29pm (host109-152-220-212.range109-152.btcentralplus.com/109.152.220.212)
  - Re: Such a tragedy,was at the game everyman and his dog in Kent came to the game.The fella who struck the blow was from Whitstable. RIP Foxy (NT) -- Do we need to know that., Sunday, March 29, 10:17:11am (host-2-102-164-149.as13285.net/2.102.164.149)
- Re: RIP Foxy (NT) -- Nobody should lose their life at a Football Match, Sunday, March 29, 10:15:26am (host-2-102-164-149.as13285.net/2.102.164.149)
More anti-Fulham bias from the BBC... -- dd, Friday, March 27, 06:09:21pm (NoHost/90.204.91.94)

Short video about Roy Hodgson taking over at Bristol City on the BBC website. At one point it says, he's managed 17 clubs with "Inter, Blackburn and Liverpool on the list"!

Why on earth would they mention the ill-fated few months he had at Blackburn and NOT mention taking Fulham into Europe and to a European final no less!

Why does the BBC HATE Fulham?

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- They don't "hate" Fulham. They are just totally bloody useless. (NT) -- GA, Friday, March 27, 06:24:06pm (ool-18b90125.dyn.optonline.net/24.185.1.37)
- Have to admit I saw his face pop up on the beeb website and I thought the worst! Good luck Uncle Roy (NT) -- Superfly, Friday, March 27, 06:48:41pm (193-117-198-98.virtual1.co.uk/193.117.198.98)
  - He'd dissolved the Imperial Senate permanently, marking the end of the Old Republic's last remnants? (NT) -- ASPT, Saturday, March 28, 08:02:37am (114-129-187-208.ip4.superloop.au/114.129.187.208)
- According to BBC report today there was a reference to his appointment at L’pool “after taking Fulham to Europa League Cup Final” …..plus….”Hodgson deserves, and gets, the grateful thanks of clubs such as Fulham, WBA and Crystal Palace…..” So, a little more fact and a little less paranoia next time. (NT) -- Bad Boy, Friday, March 27, 07:20:31pm (NoHost/2.126.58.251)
  - ??? Fulham excluded from this BBC article too looking at teams challenging for Europe...https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cwyw1q5d35vo (NT) -- dd, Friday, March 27, 11:13:55pm (NoHost/90.204.91.94)
- GA not useless clueless is more appropriate. (NT) -- Depressed, Friday, March 27, 09:47:26pm (host81-159-178-64.range81-159.btcentralplus.com/81.159.178.64)
  - Fair enough. (NT) -- GA, Friday, March 27, 11:29:11pm (ool-18b90125.dyn.optonline.net/24.185.1.37)
- Unbelievable - we saved him from seeing out the twilight of his career pen-pushing. Without FFC's wild punt - and that's exactly what it was at the time - he'd be hardly remembered - at least on these shores. He got the England gig on the strength of what he did with us - not West Brom or most certainly Liverpool. (NT) -- Rupert, Saturday, March 28, 12:18:55pm (NoHost/90.214.26.165)
Confirmation statement overdue as per Companies house...sales in progress? -- Derrick Travers, Friday, March 27, 01:54:41pm (NoHost/109.78.221.189)
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- No, thats a pretty big leap. It 'could' mean that, but could be any of other things as well. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Friday, March 27, 02:50:32pm (NoHost/90.241.79.67)
  - Re: moore likely they differing on 'TK' and his title... now his civill partnershit with CK has gone through.. is he mister tonkey? or non-binary Tony? (NT) -- vicne, Friday, March 27, 03:16:56pm (ns5019346.ip-15-235-118.net/15.235.118.222)
  - The Tories brought in new rules, some of which were cancelled when luckily somebody came to their senses. But they stuck with ID verification for all directors. But unfortunately made it far more complicated than needed, and a dodgy app that doesnt work for some people. There will be hundreds of thousands of late confirmation statements. (NT) -- Pablo, Saturday, March 28, 12:11:11pm (host86-154-91-134.range86-154.btcentralplus.com/86.154.91.134)
- Had to find another biro dryed out . Left the top off. (NT) -- Think they would have more than one pen, Friday, March 27, 05:17:10pm (NoHost/94.8.212.253)
Calvin Bassey injured. -- Apparently., Friday, March 27, 01:32:06pm (NoHost/213.207.130.41)
Sent home with a (back?) injury!

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Roy's back at Bristol City as caretaker manager... at 78 you'd have thought he'd had enough. You have to sympathise with Mrs Hodgson. -- SCA, Friday, March 27, 12:07:08pm (NoHost/90.196.13.114)
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- ...meant to add, he's not looked in the best of health lately, the stress of this will do him no good at all. (NT) -- SCA, Friday, March 27, 12:11:12pm (NoHost/90.196.13.114)
- He used to live in Richmond-on-Thames so, unless he has moved, that is quite a journey! (NT) -- Mike T, Friday, March 27, 02:19:24pm (host86-180-115-223.range86-180.btcentralplus.com/86.180.115.223)
  - Saw him in Richmond Waitrose on many occasions. Why would he put himself through this again, can be money, must be addicted to the buzz. (NT) -- SCA, Friday, March 27, 03:15:15pm (NoHost/90.196.13.114)
    - 'can't' (be money). (NT) -- SCA, Friday, March 27, 03:16:22pm (NoHost/90.196.13.114)
- Maybe she sent him ?? (NT) -- FlitwickFulham, Friday, March 27, 03:14:20pm (NoHost/91.208.239.222)
- The more I think about this, shame on the Bristol hierarchy for bringing Roy back. Recent pictures I've seen of him, including one with a Fulham fan who came across him on a train, show him looking very frail and in my opinion clearly not up to this sort of physical and mental pressure. I sincerely hope I'm wrong. (NT) -- SCA, Friday, March 27, 03:20:29pm (NoHost/90.196.13.114)
- Re: Roy's back at Bristol City as caretaker manager... at 78 you'd have thought he'd had enough. You have to sympathise with Mrs Hodgson. (NT) -- Mrs H probably give it the 👍up, Friday, March 27, 05:19:58pm (NoHost/31.94.14.20)
- Much like everyone, RH makes good and bad decisions. Only he can judge if age is a relevant issue in his new job. (NT) -- Eerwah, Friday, March 27, 11:56:13pm (116-251-29-183.pool.activ8me.net.au/116.251.29.183)
- Re: Roy's back at Bristol City as caretaker manager... at 78 you'd have thought he'd had enough. You have to sympathise with Mrs Hodgson. I have absolutely no interest in Hodgson -The man left Fulham in the lurch to go and fail at Liverpool and then equally miserably fail at the England job. Fuck him. (NT) -- Old Firm, Saturday, March 28, 04:40:23am (mx-ll-223.204.251-136.dynamic.3bb.in.th/223.204.251.136)
  - It's a shame he spoilt his legacy. He really wasn't right for Liverpool and we all knew that. It's why I struggle to join in the hero worship among some because the manner of his departure left a bad taste after we rescued him from the scrapheap. It's one of the reasons I put Marco on a far higher pedestal - whatever happens this summer. As per the great escape - perhaps the greatest - it was Bullard and McBride. And Hodgson didn't rate Bullard - ironic. (NT) -- Rupert, Saturday, March 28, 12:23:50pm (NoHost/90.214.26.165)
    - Re. scraphead...not best description of Sporting Director of Inter Milan, but you're right he'd have been retired from coaching. So FFC was definitely a watershed. It wasn't the greatest escape even of post-war FFC history, as that was in 1966. But any objective consideration of Hodgson's role in it would hardly overlook his transformation of the defence and importation of (which of us had ever heard of either?) Hangeland and Nevland. (NT) -- b+w g., Saturday, March 28, 06:46:32pm (host81-159-223-62.range81-159.btcentralplus.com/81.159.223.62)
Alajbegovic. Or already out of our league? -- CB, Thursday, March 26, 11:59:47pm (213-18-164-159.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.164.159)
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- I’ll answer my own question. Yes (NT) -- CB, Friday, March 27, 12:07:11am (213-18-164-159.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.164.159)
- Looked a great prospect, but I imagine a lot bigger clubs than us have noticed (NT) -- GTS, Friday, March 27, 12:14:12am (NoHost/94.14.186.219)
- He looked a terrific player (NT) -- GA, Friday, March 27, 12:23:26am (ool-18b90125.dyn.optonline.net/24.185.1.37)
- Re: Alajbegovic. Or already out of our league? (NT) -- Andersen not in Danes Squad last night?, Friday, March 27, 01:02:13am (host-2-102-164-149.as13285.net/2.102.164.149)
- Just to continue this conversation without any pathetic abuse. Bayer Leverkuson have initiated a €8m buy back for him.18 and what we hope(d) Kevin will be. (NT) -- CB, Friday, March 27, 08:53:26am (213-18-164-159.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.164.159)
  - Bizarre. A winger that looks good against Championship level players? And yes Nico Williams in championship level... (NT) -- Would rather have Kevin..., Friday, March 27, 11:59:55am (NoHost/90.204.91.94)
    - He's not a winger. He's 18, German, and a terrific prospect. (NT) -- GA, Saturday, March 28, 01:57:34am (ool-18b90125.dyn.optonline.net/24.185.1.37)
- I asked myself the same question last night. But thinking about it, Kevin might well have excelled in a game like that. When he came on he was clearly not accounted for in tactics. Bosnia had an overload on that wing. But yes he has great technique. (NT) -- Mr Kurkuruza, Friday, March 27, 09:25:23am (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
  - The number of players i can remember looking like worldbeaters in a particular one off instance are so numerous its not even funny. He looked great last night, but wasn't playing against a well marshalled premier league defence. But yes, the sort of player we should be casting our eye over based on that viewing, absolutely. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Friday, March 27, 11:01:06am (NoHost/90.241.79.67)
    - Yes, I think we all realise that, but I was just remarking how good he looked...could he do it on a cold January evening in Stoke, don't know, but I guess he does on a snowy evening in Graz ! (NT) -- GTS, Friday, March 27, 11:43:20am (24.206.100.60.netskope-rdns.com/24.206.100.60)
      - I wasn't disagreeing mate, just adding an obvious caveat. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Friday, March 27, 11:49:42am (NoHost/90.241.79.67)
        
        I know, I wasn't starting an argument, just commenting really... (NT) -- GTS, Friday, March 27, 12:18:28pm (24.206.100.60.netskope-rdns.com/24.206.100.60)
    - I remember George Williams playing well down the left wing for Wales. Where is he now? Could argue that Cameron Burgess was the only player in that side that cut out a consistent career in the Championship, let alone the Premier League. Just looking at the details of that final and Solanke scored the winning goal. Only him and Loftus Cheek I recognise (NT) -- Mr Kurkuruza, Friday, March 27, 12:44:33pm (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
      - Think Williams is still with the mighty Tudors. (NT) -- HemelRog, Friday, March 27, 04:20:06pm (NoHost/31.94.12.124)
- The Slavic John Bostock (NT) -- j, Friday, March 27, 11:10:43am (hers-08-b2-v4wan-169670-cust651.vm34.cable.virginm.net/81.100.146.140)
  - I think he might have a bit more about him, whatever happens I can't see him ever turning out for Solihull ! (NT) -- GTS, Friday, March 27, 11:48:02am (24.206.100.60.netskope-rdns.com/24.206.100.60)
  - I think he's German. (NT) -- GA, Friday, March 27, 03:41:16pm (ool-18b90125.dyn.optonline.net/24.185.1.37)
How much it still hurts. -- Kimberly- Clark, Thursday, March 26, 03:44:11pm (NoHost/31.94.14.20)
The Italians qualifying record since 2021 abysmal how the hell on home territory did they manage to turn us over? I Know why Southgate got Schooled by Mancini.Wouldn’t have seen that under Thomas.

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- They didn't turn us over. We English just can't take a penalty. Fact! (NT) -- dd, Thursday, March 26, 04:00:22pm (NoHost/90.204.91.94)
- Re: How much it still hurts. (NT) -- Lucky to reach penalties Mancini master class, Thursday, March 26, 08:51:49pm (NoHost/31.94.14.21)
- Yep especially after going 1-0 up. Still hurts now. I like Southgate a lot, it seems that he's a good man manager, but I'd hope that Tuchel is more shrewd tactically. (NT) -- El Pato, Friday, March 27, 11:24:06am (NoHost/130.255.28.185)
- It hurts, but it was a foolish decision by Southgate to get three inexperienced players on to take the pens against Donnarumma who, for my money, was the best keeper in the world at that time. Never liked Southgateball, even worse than watching The Cardigan's teams play. (NT) -- The Lurker, Friday, March 27, 12:24:09pm (cpc83661-brig20-2-0-cust519.3-3.cable.virginm.net/82.28.106.8)
I hope Harry Wilson stays with a new contract & MS too, I'm not sure where we can get a Wilson type player who has been so effective this season for us. I don't consider 29 yrs old to be too old, yet. And not sure which manager could push us to the next level we need. -- Ben, Thursday, March 26, 03:33:43pm (NoHost/176.25.236.25)
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- I suspect Harry’s age will prevent him getting the contract he wants, here. To give him a massive contract with very little resale value will presumably impact our assets in the balance sheet. (NT) -- SCA, Thursday, March 26, 05:56:48pm (NoHost/90.196.13.114)
  - A players contract has no bearing on assets or the balance sheet. Their transfer fee does. In Harry's case, his will have been fully amortised already, so will no longer be on the balance sheet. Wages all go straight through as in year loss. All that said, we still can't afford to be paying people 200k per week. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Friday, March 27, 10:39:43am (NoHost/90.241.79.67)
    - But our position is no different to our competitors. Why should the likes of Everton or Leeds be able to afford to pay Harry more than us? If a Champions League club wants him then there's the challenge as well as the money but surely we can match or better any other mid level Prem club. (NT) -- The Man With No Name, Friday, March 27, 11:13:58am (host81-141-119-135.range81-141.btcentralplus.com/81.141.119.135)
      - You're talking about at a high level revenue point of view - and of course are broadly right at that level - but within that, the respective clubs will have different, current, total wages, amortisation etc, and therefore more or less wiggle room. We have a number of really high paid players, which are taking up significant budget, which may preclude us from paying Wilson what he wants. Personally think Villa are the ones. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Friday, March 27, 11:29:45am (NoHost/90.241.79.67)
        
        If we got rid of Leno, Robinson and Jimenez (who I'd rather keep) then surely we can pay Wilson the 120k that Villa are offering? (NT) -- Carter, Friday, March 27, 02:15:34pm (NoHost/79.173.173.66)
        
        I mean, we can - we could probably do it in other ways as well, (ie, Lukic is out of favour and on a fair whack, and i'd try to move Robinson and Leno on anyway), but i'm not sure the club see a sunk cost of £6m a year for the next 3-4 years as correct value. I'm with you, i'd err towards doing it, because i think it costs much more to replace him - but what we think matters little to the suits. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Friday, March 27, 02:56:32pm (NoHost/90.241.79.67)
        But perhaps not European football (NT) -- Bexhill Beast, Friday, March 27, 02:57:59pm (host31-126-124-87.range31-126.btcentralplus.com/31.126.124.87)
    - So a player's value, age, size of contract, year's left on contract, resale value, has no bearing when listing the club's assets? Never realised that. (NT) -- SCA, Friday, March 27, 12:19:34pm (NoHost/90.196.13.114)
      - Nope, none, unless their original transfer fee has not fully depreciated. They are all effectively in year running costs, in terms of regulation compliance. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Friday, March 27, 02:53:18pm (NoHost/90.241.79.67)
- I heard his agent has been talking to Atletico Madrid. Not sure how much substance there is to that but he would probably be a good fit for them. (NT) -- Ronnie Gibson's Pedantic Elbow, Friday, March 27, 12:09:37pm (cpc107643-gill19-2-0-cust94.20-1.cable.virginm.net/81.105.102.95)
  - A Greisman type replacement?! (NT) -- GA, Friday, March 27, 04:43:02pm (ool-18b90125.dyn.optonline.net/24.185.1.37)
    - Possibly. I would much rather he went there than anywhere in England. (NT) -- Ronnie Gibson's Pedantic Elbow, Friday, March 27, 04:52:22pm (cpc107643-gill19-2-0-cust94.20-1.cable.virginm.net/81.105.102.95)
Blimey, didn't know Edin Dzeco is still in the Bisnia squad... -- Rupert, Thursday, March 26, 11:59:50am (NoHost/90.214.26.165)
Played against us for Wolfsburg in 2010... now 40 years old! Could be up against Harry, but probably on bench...

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- Re: Blimey, didn't know Edin Dzeco is still in the Bisnia squad... (NT) -- How good was Dickson away at Wolfsburg, Thursday, March 26, 03:30:40pm (NoHost/31.94.14.21)
- Starting AND Captain! (NT) -- That's some going!, Thursday, March 26, 08:36:36pm (NoHost/213.207.132.13)
Whatever -- Eerwah, Thursday, March 26, 12:33:44am (customer.brseaus1.isp.starlink.com/150.228.141.163)
It may well be that key people at FFC are now looking at leaving for pastures new. While perhaps regrettable, for better or worse, the changes will no doubt be managed.
If remaining 2026 fixtures keep achieving something like the current near 1.5 points per match, we might just scrape into a lesser of the Europe competitions for next season.
Pepi deal seems doomed to fail due to unreasonable sale conditions. Shad's custodianship attitude is what matters.

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- Personally, don't think Pepi transfer is doomed to fail - Fulham just driving a hard bargain.... (NT) -- p, Thursday, March 26, 09:45:14am (194.193-104-213.static.virginmediabusiness.co.uk/213.104.193.194)
- Reminds me of Kevin signing in the summer. Dragged on over details. (NT) -- RR, Thursday, March 26, 08:36:51pm (NoHost/104.220.143.92)
May have a spare for Brentford. -- P, Wednesday, March 25, 06:42:20pm (NoHost/185.69.144.251)
My friend might not be able to attend so I quite likely will have a spare ticket. It will be for a 65 plus but I understand can be adjusted to an adult under 65 one. Obviously, the ticket has not been posted to me yet

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- Yes please . (NT) -- Fulham Russ, Wednesday, March 25, 08:26:19pm (NoHost/31.94.16.125)
  - Re: Yes please . -- P, Wednesday, March 25, 10:16:58pm (NoHost/90.218.113.108)
- A true FFC fan would sell it for face value , I would be careful !! (NT) -- D block, Thursday, March 26, 09:37:44am (NoHost/2.220.204.91)
  - Reading not your strongest subject at school? (NT) -- Or is English not your first language?, Thursday, March 26, 10:02:22am (NoHost/167.88.50.23)
  - Doesn't say it's not being sold at face value. Read it again...think age not money. (NT) -- --, Thursday, March 26, 11:36:38am (NoHost/90.204.91.94)
- I think he means it a concession over 65's ticket but should be able to change it to standard adult? (NT) -- TonyM, Thursday, March 26, 10:00:53am (NoHost/90.242.37.123)
- Re: May have a spare for Brentford. -- P, Thursday, March 26, 11:33:53am (NoHost/90.218.113.108)
- Good on you P. A true Fulham fan, treating others with fairness and respect. (NT) -- Mr No Name, Thursday, March 26, 01:46:33pm (host81-131-212-246.range81-131.btcentralplus.com/81.131.212.246)
- If your buyer drops out I'll step in and take it off you 👊🏻 -- Gary Elkins Shin Pad, Thursday, March 26, 03:29:28pm (233.219.198.146.dyn.plus.net/146.198.219.233)
According to todays news.... -- Dk, Wednesday, March 25, 06:27:24pm (cpc146332-brig24-2-0-cust60.3-3.cable.virginm.net/81.111.52.61)
Robinson is being tracked by Man Utd
Wilson is in talks with Villa
Marco is in line for the Spurs (?!) or Man Utd jobs
Pepi deal has collapsed

I fully understand that clubs move in cycles but I'm seriously hoping that if this is the end of our recent one that the club have suitable replacements lined up.

The most frustrating thing about Fulham is that we seem to get to a standard where we could push on and cement our place in the Prem and have realistic targets of european spots and cup victories, but can never seem to manage that.

The thought of a slow decline again is beyond frustrating...I'm hoping we've learnt our lessons over the past 10 years or so and can implement a suitable (and sucessful) sucession plan.

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- Sounds grim, i think if all that happened and we go again without a decent striker we will be fighting down the bottom 3 (NT) -- Waterboy, Wednesday, March 25, 06:29:52pm (NoHost/90.242.53.3)
- Care to bet that any of those things will happen? It's all click bait rumours invariably without substance. Stupid and pointless to get upset and angry until and unless bad things happen. (NT) -- The Man With No Name, Wednesday, March 25, 06:42:55pm (host81-141-119-135.range81-141.btcentralplus.com/81.141.119.135)
  - Exactly. OP basically saying 'I read lots of bull***t and I take that bull***t VERY seriously. (NT) -- Shrug, Wednesday, March 25, 07:14:24pm (NoHost/90.204.91.94)
- With the exception of losing Wilson, the rest isn't particularly bothersome or concerning. Silva has become a high maintaince girlfriend. Robinson is a player in decline who should have been sold last summer. And Pepi, although very talented, was still a risky transfer considering his injury problems and operating in a much lower standard of football. Even Wilson at 29, with only one good season to his name, is a n expensive risk with little to no resale value. (NT) -- Samuel, Wednesday, March 25, 07:10:18pm (NoHost/90.253.228.158)
- Mickey nay I remind you Khan employed Silva with many highly critical. (NT) -- Going, Wednesday, March 25, 09:40:35pm (host86-137-246-246.range86-137.btcentralplus.com/86.137.246.246)
  - No point really! NOTHING will stop the idiot pushing his anti-Khan narrative. (NT) -- That needle is totally stuck!, Thursday, March 26, 10:24:31am (NoHost/167.88.50.39)
- No way Man United. Spurs written all over it. He’s patiently waited. For re-union with Richarlison. Even more likely if they are relegated, which is unlikely (NT) -- CB, Wednesday, March 25, 11:25:55pm (213-18-164-159.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.164.159)
- International break, nonsense stories... (NT) -- Rupert, Thursday, March 26, 01:00:26pm (NoHost/90.214.26.165)
- Re: According to todays news.... (NT) -- I think it’s the cost 10th to 6th is big money, Thursday, March 26, 03:34:40pm (NoHost/31.94.14.20)
Burnley’s throw in that caught out our whole team as they were asleep was embarrassing and ridiculous also why do we put our whole team up for a corner and as we are terrible at them we get hit on gh counter attack and have to defend a 4-1 attack brain 🧠 dead tactics -- Button, Wednesday, March 25, 04:48:56pm (nmal-23-b2-v4wan-169190-cust1261.vm24.cable.virginm.net/80.5.116.238)
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- What's the score ? points to the scoreboard (NT) -- 3-1 you mug !, Wednesday, March 25, 04:52:04pm (NoHost/94.8.212.253)
  - He’s been looking for negative things to post since the game finished. He never changes even when posting on another site using his other pseudonym. (NT) -- True supporter., Wednesday, March 25, 05:43:33pm (NoHost/78.111.194.83)
- What does Ray Rock think?more weirdos on here than any other football forum(and yep I know) (NT) -- HemelRog, Wednesday, March 25, 09:30:18pm (NoHost/31.94.74.230)
For what it's worth...Fabrizio Romano saying Tottenham considering approach for Marco Silva -- dd, Wednesday, March 25, 12:27:53pm (host81-133-110-86.in-addr.btopenworld.com/81.133.110.86)
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- To be honest Iam past caring. (NT) -- Depressed, Wednesday, March 25, 12:35:42pm (host81-159-178-64.range81-159.btcentralplus.com/81.159.178.64)
- For now? For if they go down or for if they stay up? I can imagine Silva being up for the third option and Spurs for one or two. If they stay up I'd expect them to go for a big name manager not repeat the failures they've had with midtable Prem guys. (NT) -- The Man With No Name, Wednesday, March 25, 12:40:12pm (host81-141-119-135.range81-141.btcentralplus.com/81.141.119.135)
  - Yes the Nuno and Frank route would surely have put them off a Manager in a similar bracket ; albeit for me he’s above both . Better start praying they get relegated , though the rumours yesterday at least were tilting towards De Zerbi (NT) -- Mickey, Wednesday, March 25, 12:47:40pm (82-132-236-41.dab.02.net/82.132.236.41)
- Decent bet. If Spurs are relegated Marco’s CV will show his ability to get a team promoted at first attempt. And a couple of ex players who would be in his camp (Palhinha & Richarlison) Wages wouldn’t be a problem either. I think this is entirely plausible (NT) -- Bad Boy, Wednesday, March 25, 01:06:26pm (NoHost/2.126.58.251)
- If its to come in and keep them up, I'm not convinced he's a great choice. He's not really an 'immediate impact' firefighter type manager - he has set methods, systems, etc - not completely dissimilar to Hodgson. It'll take a while to get the methods and systems going. I'm not sure 7 games remaining is enough for a silva type manager. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Wednesday, March 25, 01:09:55pm (NoHost/90.241.79.67)
  - Are they going to wheel out Harry with 6 games to go?. Tbh, as much as I have always disliked Spurs, I have always felt the same way about West Ham. And I really don't like the current ownership at Forest. So it's just a pity that Burnley and Wolves are cut adrift because Spurs & Forest should go down just for getting through so may head coaches in one season. Total ineptitude by both. And as for Forest, well I'd love Marinakis to be relegated. (NT) -- Mr Kurkuruza, Wednesday, March 25, 01:59:01pm (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
    - Blimey, you've pretty much repeated my own thoughts word for word. I'd rather the 3 in the mix all drop rather than Wolves and Burnley (albeit there's an element of Burnley getting what they deserve by sticking with Parker, a man who has now won 1 of every 8 games he has managed in the top flight, a quite appalling record). (NT) -- Same Old Story, Wednesday, March 25, 02:44:57pm (NoHost/90.241.79.67)
- Re: For what it's worth...Fabrizio Romano saying Tottenham considering approach for Marco Silva -- The blahblahman, Wednesday, March 25, 02:02:40pm (NoHost/217.32.201.26)
- If they get relegated then Scottie Parker would have the best CV for that job. They would need to give him the push at the season's end though. (NT) -- Hammersmithender, Wednesday, March 25, 02:07:11pm (NoHost/31.94.12.1)
  - I was also thinking Parker should they get relegated, but I'm not sure the fanbase would welcome his style of football and yet another managerial change if they got promoted. The constant chopping and changing of personnel and playing styles would just perpetuate the chaos they're presumably trying to escape. If they're relegated I could see Harry Rednapp getting the job to rebuild and galvanise the club. (NT) -- Samuel, Wednesday, March 25, 02:33:23pm (NoHost/90.253.228.158)
    - a 79 year old who hasn't managed in a decade and who is totally reliant on spending massive sums when they will have financial limitations is absolutely not going to happen. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Wednesday, March 25, 02:47:06pm (NoHost/90.241.79.67)
      - Fair enough; I don't know anything about the financial side of things. I just thought they would raise quite a bit of investment from sales and the squad would probably still have enough quality and experience to gain promotion without wholesale changes. From what I've seen on social media and fan interviews, Rednapp seems to still be a popular choice. (NT) -- Samuel, Wednesday, March 25, 03:09:29pm (NoHost/90.253.228.158)
        
        Watching some of the spurs podcasts they say that the club will have severe financial problems if relegation happens. (NT) -- Hammersmithender, Wednesday, March 25, 08:56:53pm (NoHost/31.94.12.1)
        
        Absolutely. Not only are they going to lose around 40% of their total revenue, but they then have a much smaller loss allowance (a third of what you are allowed in the premier league). They will need to get rid of some big earners, and won't be able to go out and sign loads of players (NT) -- Same Old Story, Thursday, March 26, 09:56:20am (NoHost/90.241.79.67)
- Romano is a mouthpiece for agents so everything has to be taken with a pinch of salt. (NT) -- Rupert, Wednesday, March 25, 02:47:28pm (NoHost/90.214.26.165)
- Re: Marco Silva & Spurs, MS has currently 1.1% or 5 votes to be their next manager, so don't think Spurs fans want him or rate him. (NT) -- Ben, Wednesday, March 25, 03:41:54pm (NoHost/176.25.236.25)
  - Indeed - that's another thing - the entitled Spurs fans would be so underwhelmed thinking he's another Frank - we know otherwise but don't tell 'em. (NT) -- Rupert, Wednesday, March 25, 04:02:57pm (NoHost/90.214.26.165)
- He's 33/1 with Bet Victor if you don't realise all this speculation is pure guesswork/clickbait. (NT) -- Pablo, Thursday, March 26, 01:07:56pm (host86-154-91-134.range86-154.btcentralplus.com/86.154.91.134)
Andani Iraola -- Henry1879, Tuesday, March 24, 03:13:25pm (cpc113818-lea23-2-0-cust423.6-3.cable.virginm.net/86.27.157.168)
Been linked to palace today. Perhaps I’m bias, but I put Fulham just above palace and Bournemouth in the ranking of attractive jobs in the prem. I think we have owners who are more willing to finance, unlike palace, and Bournemouth will have restrictions and capped revenue due to their stadium and probably have less of a commercial pull than a club in the fancy part of London. With that in mind, if silva isn’t going to stay, surely everything must be done to make a move for Iraola. He’s out of contract, I’d have said he was out of our league, but I’d suggest if palace make a move they’d have had at least some positive response. You also wonder, what other jobs are there, Madrids & Barca are no, Bayern no, PSG no, maybe a Chelsea or spurs, but would he want that, who knows, maybe we can offer him a small step up the ladder. Plays aggressive, fast football with great ability of working with youngsters, with prem experience, I’d do anything in my powers to get him if I had any chance to if I owned Fulham.

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- I said this a few weeks ago and was told he was well out of our league. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Tuesday, March 24, 03:15:24pm (85-115-50-2.mailcontrol.com/85.115.50.2)
  - Bilbao Bound (NT) -- J, Tuesday, March 24, 03:53:16pm (NoHost/85.255.232.121)
  - I think that was by me and maybe it is just agent/media chat to facilitate better terms or a move elsewhere, possibly bilbao as below. But there’s a few decent outlets reporting palace as making a move, which normally wouldn’t come if there wasn’t interest from the Iraola himself. Ultimately if it’s even a remote possibility I can’t think of many other managers I’d be as excited to get in as Iraola. (NT) -- Henry1879, Tuesday, March 24, 04:49:49pm (cpc113818-lea23-2-0-cust423.6-3.cable.virginm.net/86.27.157.168)
- I would too. But he's surely worth better than either of us. I'm sure he'll have better options. He would certainly be a great replacement for Marco with ' most' of our current squad (NT) -- CB, Tuesday, March 24, 04:48:32pm (213-18-164-159.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.164.159)
  - Nobody is worth better tha us. (NT) -- HemelRog, Tuesday, March 24, 05:32:30pm (NoHost/31.94.74.231)
- thats a case of palace saying we went for him, when hes going back to his home club. Season ticket renewals out soon? Saying this is who we want, knowing there is no chance. (NT) -- me, Tuesday, March 24, 06:32:54pm (host86-151-207-147.range86-151.btcentralplus.com/86.151.207.147)
  - You’re probably right, could well have got excited based on a nothing media report which was picked up by other media sources. Managers don’t move sideways when their stock is so high, with a realistic head on its probs agent talk or a rumour based on not a lot, or like you say a ploy by palace to make them look ambitious to fans. (NT) -- Henry1879, Tuesday, March 24, 08:37:26pm (cpc113818-lea23-2-0-cust423.6-3.cable.virginm.net/86.27.157.168)
- Thiago Motta still unemployed I believe. (NT) -- ASPT, Wednesday, March 25, 03:10:13am (NoHost/1.145.48.110)
- I think Marco will sign and if so - happy days. Why settle for second best? (NT) -- Rupert, Wednesday, March 25, 10:13:41am (NoHost/90.214.26.165)
  - Genuine question, what makes you think Marco would sign? I used to think he would, but now I don't. If he was going to sign, he would have done it by now I think... (NT) -- p, Wednesday, March 25, 12:13:40pm (host81-133-110-86.in-addr.btopenworld.com/81.133.110.86)
    - Possibly, but he may simply be keeping his options open in case of vacancies. There might be one available in North London. (NT) -- Bexhill Beast, Wednesday, March 25, 12:20:35pm (host31-126-124-87.range31-126.btcentralplus.com/31.126.124.87)
      - Anything's possible but he's actually not acting as if he's about to leave. It may be that the contract on the table needs tweaking but there's not been any great urgency because it's recognised that both sides want the relationship to continue. But of course we don't know. (NT) -- The Man With No Name, Wednesday, March 25, 12:27:56pm (host81-141-119-135.range81-141.btcentralplus.com/81.141.119.135)
    - I think he's happy at Fulham and has learned from past mistakes. It would take an attractive opportunity and Spurs is one - but I'd say it's against the odds. (NT) -- Rupert, Wednesday, March 25, 02:49:53pm (NoHost/90.214.26.165)
SCR -- f bloke, Tuesday, March 24, 03:07:32pm (NoHost/2.223.121.65)
it would appear from the FST minutes that Fulham Pier profits will count for SCR purposes. I assume that the corollary of this is that any Fulham Pier losses will have a negative impact on available spend under SCR. Given that we are 2 years into a £125m five year term loan with JP Morgan at an interest rate of SONIA + 3.625 (ie currently c 7.3%), the gross cost of servicing the interest is over £9m p.a. It is not clear from publicly available information whether the loan documents contain principal repayment obligations during the term of the loan. If so - this will further impact annual profits/losses. Just hope that the Fulham Pier business model stacks up.

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- Loan servicing is below EBIT and wouldn't count for PSR calculations. Its irrelevant for SCR, as the SCR calculation is effectively cost of squad (amortisation + wages) vs total revenue. Other costs don't come into the calcuation. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Tuesday, March 24, 03:17:34pm (85-115-50-2.mailcontrol.com/85.115.50.2)
  - Ta for that - I should have been able to work that out myself but thanks for doing it for me. Does seem to me an odd system where you only count a particular revenue stream and not the cost of providing that revenue stream even if it gives rise to losses? - but hey ho. (NT) -- f bloke, Tuesday, March 24, 03:42:18pm (NoHost/2.223.121.65)
    - Yeah, its absolutely odd from an accounting practice POV. Same goes for matchday spend though. The only qualifiable costs are playing/coaching staff related ones, so the people who work in the shops/outlets aren't included, but the revenue from those sources are. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Tuesday, March 24, 03:47:42pm (85-115-50-2.mailcontrol.com/85.115.50.2)
      - Surreal. (NT) -- b+w g., Tuesday, March 24, 05:39:56pm (host81-159-15-87.range81-159.btcentralplus.com/81.159.15.87)
Almost funny..... -- GTS, Tuesday, March 24, 01:29:04pm (24.206.100.60.netskope-rdns.com/24.206.100.60)
I don't usually subscribe to the theory that Fulham are deliberately ignored or denigrated by the media, but sometimes even I suspect it is true.
There is an article on the BBC Sport website about whether the 3 week break will help or hinder your team. There is along piece about the fight for Europe, which mentions Brentford, Everton, "10th placed" Brighton, Bournemouth, Sunderland and Newcastle....

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- Ineptitude probably. The bit of the article covering the race for Champions League places doesn't mention Man Utd (currently third). (NT) -- Club Stooge, Tuesday, March 24, 05:03:53pm (host81-152-41-25.range81-152.btcentralplus.com/81.152.41.25)
  - I agree, it is just ineptitude, but wryly amusing nevertheless...they also ignored Aston Villa! (NT) -- GTS, Tuesday, March 24, 05:42:54pm (24.206.100.60.netskope-rdns.com/24.206.100.60)
- BBC football coverage is abysmal. Stick to The Guardian. (NT) -- GA, Tuesday, March 24, 11:00:05pm (ool-18b90125.dyn.optonline.net/24.185.1.37)
  - Yep - and the news isn't great either. Anyone watch paedo Huw last night? (NT) -- Rupert, Wednesday, March 25, 10:18:39am (NoHost/90.214.26.165)
Brentford Sold Out? -- Barry Friend, Tuesday, March 24, 11:55:06am (host-2-102-164-149.as13285.net/2.102.164.149)
Can’t seem to get online to purchase ticket bother.

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- Re: Brentford Sold Out? -- Duke of Nork, Tuesday, March 24, 12:27:26pm (NoHost/2.126.129.113)
  - I dunno. People still seem to think that the fun run has taken a chunk of the allocation, but they've sold out exactly at the tranche i expected them to. Games with an allocation of 1500 or so (especially ones so local) very rarely make it below 1000 loyalty points. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Tuesday, March 24, 01:09:48pm (85-115-50-2.mailcontrol.com/85.115.50.2)
Europe or bust -- Sky news, Monday, March 23, 11:53:29pm (NoHost/94.8.212.253)

Who has the best chance of reaching the Champions League next season? Why could Liverpool, Crystal Palace and Aston Villa winning European trophies mean there are 11 teams in Europe in 2026/27? Will England's co-efficient give them five qualifying league positions?

Monday 23 March

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- The huge amount of teams in europe is making the league itself more competitve where the likes of man utd/brentford/everton are utilising the less fixtures to their advantage (NT) -- Waterboy, Tuesday, March 24, 08:54:28am (NoHost/90.242.53.3)
- Surely Forest would be more likely to create an extra place considering Villa are much more likely to qualify through the league? And Liverpool would have to have a horror show end to the season by their standards (ie drop to 9th) for them winning to make a difference. And yes, England will get the 5th place, its pretty much mathematically guaranteed. They're 6 coefficient points ahead of 4th place - you don't turn that around from the quarter final stage. Its the equivalent of about 24 wins. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Tuesday, March 24, 09:04:49am (NoHost/90.241.79.67)
As part of my previous post, I think FFC would have beaten Arsenal at home in the FA Cup against them if we had progressed, based on their poor 2nd half in the Carabo Cup against Man City. Do you who posted earlier think so too? -- Ben, Monday, March 23, 08:00:11pm (NoHost/176.25.236.25)
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- Instead why don’t we put an enormous dent in their title challenge in early May ?Not quite the same as a home Cup Tie but at least those there will generate atmosphere . No question they are flakey and as much as we might detest 115 , those insufferable # North London Forever# Fans for me take top prize even beyond their neighbours ( ‘we are Tottenham and can fit 4 of Bournemouth’s Capacity in our South Stand ‘🤡 (NT) -- Mickey, Monday, March 23, 08:22:30pm (82-132-228-247.dab.02.net/82.132.228.247)
  - No comment on your generalisations about Arsenal supporters (and irrelevant for me to say I know some good ones) but while City used to be clearly the more likeable Manchester club, it's impossible to favour them winning trophies right now. After they've been cleared of the charges, then maybe. As for whether we'd have won the cup tie, yes possibly. Less vexing that if we'd drawn Port Vale, but still annoying. (NT) -- b+w g., Monday, March 23, 08:55:33pm (host81-159-15-87.range81-159.btcentralplus.com/81.159.15.87)
  - Actually with you on this one, I’ve become anyone but Arsenal to win anything. Become the most insufferable fan base and coupled with their negative style and unlikeable players like Gabriel, saka and the horrible Arteta I find them incredibly unlikeable, and that’s from someone who so admired that brilliant mid 2000s team under Wenger. They constantly moan at time wasting at the end after taking a minute over every set piece. (NT) -- Henry1879, Monday, March 23, 09:12:22pm (cpc113818-lea23-2-0-cust423.6-3.cable.virginm.net/86.27.157.168)
    - 100% agree...Im not sure about Saka being unlikeable though?! (NT) -- Carter, Tuesday, March 24, 02:01:14pm (NoHost/79.173.173.66)
      - Maybe I’m being harsh, I used to really like saka and to be fair like how he keeps himself to himself off the pitch, but just found he almost gets outraged now when he gets fouled, like it shouldn’t be allowed. I may jusr be taking this view because of how I view Arsenal though, who seemed to have a great ability to act one way then get outraged when same is done to them. (NT) -- Henry1879, Tuesday, March 24, 03:03:28pm (cpc113818-lea23-2-0-cust423.6-3.cable.virginm.net/86.27.157.168)
- Re: As part of my previous post, I think FFC would have beaten Arsenal at home in the FA Cup against them if we had progressed, based on their poor 2nd half in the Carabo Cup against Man City. Do you who posted earlier think so too? (NT) -- Couldn’t beat Soton end of story, Monday, March 23, 09:16:26pm (host-2-102-164-149.as13285.net/2.102.164.149)
  - Correct. I thought that at time of draw. Not weeks after. Meaningless post (NT) -- CB, Monday, March 23, 11:41:02pm (213-18-164-159.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.164.159)
Bus stop tickets -- bs, Monday, March 23, 03:48:39pm (NoHost/2.126.191.47)
About 60% sold this morning.
Don't hang about

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- dont see any way they don't sell out in this tranche or very early in the 1000+ points one tomorrow morning. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Monday, March 23, 03:54:57pm (NoHost/90.241.79.67)
- + a block saved for charity runners.. (NT) -- woodman, Monday, March 23, 04:02:56pm (NoHost/46.31.84.144)
  - that part of the charity run has been removed, they instead get to go to a 'watch party' apparently. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Monday, March 23, 04:46:31pm (NoHost/90.241.79.67)
    - Removed cos they were oversubscribed.. (NT) -- woodman, Monday, March 23, 07:12:47pm (NoHost/46.31.84.144)
      - All i can say is that when i looked at the seat map when i logged in first thing we appeared to have the full (usual) allocation mate. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Tuesday, March 24, 08:53:03am (NoHost/90.241.79.67)
- Only about 260 Bus stop tickets left (NT) -- D block, Monday, March 23, 08:59:06pm (NoHost/2.220.204.91)
- Re: Bus stop tickets (NT) -- Like Boscombe pittance away allocation, Monday, March 23, 09:18:59pm (host-2-102-164-149.as13285.net/2.102.164.149)
Question, who do think was FFC's best manager ever, re success of sorts? Between Alec Stock taking 2nd division FFC to 1975 Cup Final, or Roy Hodgson remarkable run to the 2010 Europa League Cup Final? -- Ben, Monday, March 23, 12:30:46pm (NoHost/176.25.236.25)
Bearing in mind the boring Carabo Cup Final between Arsenal & Man City.
We should have beaten Southampton in the FA Cup recently (due to tinkering MS) I firmly believe after watching poor Arsenal we could have beaten them at Craven Cottage in the next round.
What a mistake & failed opportunity plus huge loss of revenue as well had we progressed.

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- Marco for shere consistency and stability over a 5 year period. Faults and all. That's my interpretation of success at Fulham. (NT) -- CB, Monday, March 23, 12:49:50pm (213-18-164-159.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.164.159)
  - Yes, Marco for me, winning a meaningful pot, the Championship is tough, way harder than fluking a League Cup say, for instance, his longevity, his loyalty, the way he fights our corner when we are repeatedly stitched up, it may work against us as referees get their own back but I like the fact he won't accept the media's 'little old Fulham' stereotype. I really did npt like how Roy Hodgson left the club, and he has done only half the time, unforgettable as it was. (NT) -- Rupert, Tuesday, March 24, 11:48:09am (NoHost/90.214.26.165)
- Too young for 1975, but in a shoot out between silva and hodgson surely hodgson by a distance. For getting most out of resources and exceeding expectations I think he’s miles ahead. Great escape with what he brought in January was incredible, then the teams we had to play in Europa was amazing, more like a champs league KO run, so many times we had an inferior team on paper. Got so much out of players like hughes, hangeland, Baird, etuhu etc, truly far greater than sum of its parts. (NT) -- Henry1879, Monday, March 23, 01:01:56pm (cpc113818-lea23-2-0-cust423.6-3.cable.virginm.net/86.27.157.168)
  - Different decades, but Silva by far ! Success is a lot tougher to achieve now and ( as were are frequently reminded ) our mid-table home for consecutive seasons is a success. Name a Manager who doesn’t make bad calls , and you’d be hard pushed . As stated , it’s about consistency and hopefully further longevity despite the narrative that you and the other essay writing stooge are trying to push . Remember Mr Khan and Son absolutely love him !👍🎉 (NT) -- Mickey, Monday, March 23, 01:27:08pm (82-132-228-247.dab.02.net/82.132.228.247)
  - Are you serious, Marco? Miles behind Hodgson? Schwarzer,Murphy,Duff,Etuhu,Dempsey,Davies,Andy Johnson,Konch,Hangerland,Gera,Zamora, any others? Credit Roy, but all things considered, Marco 54 points record and no relegation battles. Hands down for me. (NT) -- CB, Monday, March 23, 02:57:59pm (213-18-164-159.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.164.159)
    - Hodgson only had a relegation battle because of Sanchez, you utter tool! When he tookover we had 2 wins from 20 games, FFS! He took us to 7th with a whole point less than Marco's record, then oversaw a comfortable mid-table finish while also competing in Europe the next season. (NT) -- YOU REALLY ARE A DICK!, Monday, March 23, 03:46:30pm (83-87-110-235.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl/83.87.110.235)
      - Ok pathetic pratt. We were famous for being a yo-yo team prior to Silva's arrival. Who mentioned Hodgson regarding relegation, although he cut it fine with a barely better points total than Sanchez. The point you utter no hope moron is Marco has done better over 5 years. Get it. Roy F***** off after 2. Whose knocking Roy? The point being made is I place Marco ahead of any other Fulham manager in my lifetime. (NT) -- CB Get back on X mate. You're at home there, Monday, March 23, 05:23:18pm (213-18-164-159.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.164.159)
    - List of players who whilst outstanding for us, didn’t do a lot elsewhere, Davies, Gera, etuhu, hangeland, hughes, decent players, but to take that team to a Europa final with that draw was insane, whereas now whenever we play anyone good (or saints) in a cup we fold. Hodgson had no relegation battles, he saved us from an impossible situation, with not a lot spent. Who cares about points, all matters is where you finish and where you get to in cups. (NT) -- Henry1879, Monday, March 23, 04:32:28pm (cpc113818-lea23-2-0-cust423.6-3.cable.virginm.net/86.27.157.168)
- Re: Question, who do think was FFC's best manager ever, re success of sorts? Between Alec Stock taking 2nd division FFC to 1975 Cup Final, or Roy Hodgson remarkable run to the 2010 Europa League Cup Final? -- Paul, Monday, March 23, 01:42:00pm (host81-152-248-8.range81-152.btcentralplus.com/81.152.248.8)
- Mickey Adams - without him doubt we’d have touched the premier league.. (NT) -- woodman, Monday, March 23, 01:47:37pm (cpc158567-haye26-2-0-cust402.17-4.cable.virginm.net/86.15.153.147)
  - Mickey is agreed as the answer to a (different) question about importance to our welfare as a club. Closest rival is arguably Branfoot for sourcing him. (NT) -- b+w g., Monday, March 23, 02:00:48pm (host81-159-15-87.range81-159.btcentralplus.com/81.159.15.87)
- Think Hodgson had better players - only Tete and Robinson would walk into Hodgson's team - could possibly argue one of Berge/Lukic over Etuhu. Hodgson also gave us our best season ever - but in the league I think Silva's record is comparable. Could argue that Hodgson’s negative approach to away games meant he underachieved given the squad he had and the quality of the competition at the time. Goes to show football fans will never be entirely happy with their lot - they will aways want more (NT) -- f bloke, Monday, March 23, 01:49:18pm (NoHost/2.223.121.65)
- Marco or Roy for me. Stock took us to Wembley but underachieved in the League. Favourite Coach Dafe Sexton for 65/66 the biggest Escape act. (NT) -- Liked Dodgin too!, Monday, March 23, 01:57:43pm (82-132-213-16.dab.02.net/82.132.213.16)
  - Sexton the most transformatory coach, yes. From taking over the league's worst performers at Xmas, he soon had us winning match after match. We survived. He left after his half season in charge and we pretty soon reverted. (NT) -- b+w g., Monday, March 23, 02:07:33pm (host81-159-15-87.range81-159.btcentralplus.com/81.159.15.87)
- Roy was a bit of one season wonder….but what a season it turned out to be. Roy was almost certainly just one result away from being sacked the previous season. The Great Escape at Portsmouth was a gift to us from the Footballing Gods. Pompey had booked their place in the FA Cup Final and their players, careful to avoid mixing it and intent on avoiding injury, were clearly not up for this one. A rare headed goal from Murphy was enough to see us survive by goal difference. (NT) -- Bad Boy, Monday, March 23, 02:03:52pm (NoHost/2.126.58.251)
  - Bit revisionist - for a start even if you do exclude the great escape (Birmingham, Reading and Man City results had paved the way for Portsmouth to even have relevance), but we then had to finish 7th - a still current record - and then had a season with a comfortable mid table finish and THAT run. So at the very least it was 2 seasons, and i think even thats a bit harsh. Roy was great. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Monday, March 23, 02:10:37pm (NoHost/90.241.79.67)
    - Yep. Roy was great. I still think IF we had been relegated the season of the great escape, Roy would have been toast. Fayed didn’t mess about with managers who he felt had “failed”…..not having a go, just suggesting what might have been. (NT) -- BB, Monday, March 23, 02:25:57pm (NoHost/2.126.58.251)
- All great managers. I can't understand some of the fans wanting Silva to go. I'm sure West Ham fans rue the day they called for Moyeses sacking. (NT) -- Crafty Cottager, Monday, March 23, 02:15:31pm (customer.lndngbr1.isp.starlink.com/150.228.39.224)
- Roy didnt actually stay long, with only 2 full seasons, i would think if he had we would have had more attempts at 7th place (NT) -- Waterboy, Monday, March 23, 03:12:15pm (NoHost/90.242.53.3)
- In my time (early 90s onwards) it goes like this: most important = Adams; most successful = Hodgson; most entertaining = Tigana; most stable = Marco. The all-rounder who doesn't make any of those top slots but would be 2nd or 3rd in each category would be Jokanovic. (NT) -- eganonoa, Monday, March 23, 03:56:47pm (host86-160-212-200.range86-160.btcentralplus.com/86.160.212.200)
  - Thats a great and fair assessment. I would add most heartbreaking = Macdonald. Mm most memorable seasons given to us would be 1.Hodgson, 2.Tigana, 3.Stock, 4.Jokanovic, 5.Silva. 6 Macdonald (NT) -- The Drobe, Monday, March 23, 05:38:27pm (host109-152-205-24.range109-152.btcentralplus.com/109.152.205.24)
    - Both of those Stock and Macdonald seasons are way before my time, sadly. Wish I'd seen them. On my list of most (positively) memorable seasons given it's 1. Adams (hands down), 2. Hodgson, then an absolutely gigantic gap to 3. Tigana, 4. Keegan (less him, more Mo), and then the others. (NT) -- eganonoa, Monday, March 23, 06:48:10pm (host86-160-212-200.range86-160.btcentralplus.com/86.160.212.200)
      - At your Conroy-watching stage I had Allan Clarke, so promotion from League Two inevitably had that perspective. Even so, a season second only to the Hodgson, with the same huge gap to any other. (NT) -- b+w g., Monday, March 23, 07:38:59pm (host81-159-15-87.range81-159.btcentralplus.com/81.159.15.87)
      - I'd have a pretty similar list, but would have both Silva and Jokanovic promotions in above Keegan, and i'd throw in an absolute wild card in 91/92, which turned from an absolute horror show to a gut wrenching, fall at the last hurdle, dash from the relegation zone to a play off charge with plenty of memorable moments. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Tuesday, March 24, 09:01:10am (NoHost/90.241.79.67)
      - This is the crux for me, ultimately football is an entertainment, will I look back in 20 years with a huge fondness of last 3 seasons, in parts sure, but consistency doesn’t provide the everlasting memories like the Hodgson, tigana or Adams seasons for me. If we even got to a final, or qualify for Europe & had a great run then I’d reconsider, but as it stands the Joka promotion season was superior to the silva one, which I file under should have got promoted with that squad. (NT) -- Henry1879, Tuesday, March 24, 03:00:21pm (cpc113818-lea23-2-0-cust423.6-3.cable.virginm.net/86.27.157.168)
        
        This is very fair. For me, i think the thing that I'll remember about the Silva promotion season 20 years from now will be the Mitrovic sideshow, which is still scarcely believable and may never be matched at Fulham (NT) -- Same Old Story, Tuesday, March 24, 03:21:23pm (85-115-50-2.mailcontrol.com/85.115.50.2)
- Roy head & shoulders above anyone for me. (NT) -- Bexhill Beast, Monday, March 23, 03:57:12pm (host86-142-67-240.range86-142.btcentralplus.com/86.142.67.240)
- 1 Silva 2. Hodgson 3 Adams 4 Jokanoviic. Stock goid in FACup but boring in League. Adams my favourite as he turned us around saved us from the Conference and got us promoted. . . (NT) -- Adams Family, Monday, March 23, 04:13:47pm (host86-137-246-246.range86-137.btcentralplus.com/86.137.246.246)
- The Cheese Man clearly. Spuds should get him (NT) -- Al, Monday, March 23, 04:27:48pm (cust-51.179.204.87.cgn.as5482.net/51.179.204.87)
- Bedford Jezzard for me. A promotion and 2 FA Cup semi finals in 6 years and stabilising the club in the top division with scant investment from the board. Discontentment lead to his departure. Oh what could have been! (NT) -- Hammersmithender, Monday, March 23, 05:37:27pm (NoHost/31.94.12.1)
  - That demonstrates how the passing of time unfairly devalues things as memories are lost. I am relatively old but not old enough to remember the Jezzard teams I guess it would be the same with Johnny Haynes. Few people would rank him in the top England Captains of all time because few are alive that remember him in his prime. (NT) -- The Drobe, Monday, March 23, 05:45:48pm (host109-152-205-24.range109-152.btcentralplus.com/109.152.205.24)
    - The lack of videos doesn't help them of course. (NT) -- Hammersmithender, Monday, March 23, 06:25:28pm (NoHost/31.94.12.1)
- Re:Marco for me gor making us a consistent Premiership side. Loved the European tour under Roy and not forgetting the fabulous Tigana. (NT) -- Alboy, Monday, March 23, 07:20:47pm (host109-150-14-246.range109-150.btcentralplus.com/109.150.14.246)
- Wow, thanks everyone for adding to my post, very good & informative replies. I did go to both Cup finals, felt very proud of FFC. I also enjoyed Tigana's years, we have had excellent players over the years, just need that silverware put the icing on the cake. (NT) -- Ben, Monday, March 23, 07:49:25pm (NoHost/176.25.236.25)
- Re I'm glad somebody else remembers and mentioned Bedford Jezzard, when we were always 2 or 3 players short of being a top side (NT) -- garence, Monday, March 23, 09:01:48pm (82-71-33-251.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/82.71.33.251)
  - Macedo,Cohen,Langley,Mullery,Haynes and Leggat.Wow.Jol had an incredible midfield but typically Spurs screwed us.If only Spurs,WH and NF could all go down.Horrible clubs. (NT) -- HemelRog, Tuesday, March 24, 12:29:53am (NoHost/31.94.74.104)
    - Actually, I think it was Trinder who screwed us. Where did all the money go? Agree about Spurs. (NT) -- Hammersmithender, Tuesday, March 24, 11:35:22am (NoHost/31.94.12.0)
- Silva by a mile. Little stress and generally decent football to watch. 0-0 away and 1-0 at home Roy set ups don't compare. Admittedly in the 2 leg Europe ties Roy was a different manager and gave us our best season. But Silva by far for me. (NT) -- WayneKerrins (btw prime BZ > FFC era Raul), Monday, March 23, 09:42:58pm (NoHost/201.229.99.234)
- Can't comment on the first 90 years of the Club, (which saw some amazing managers according to my late dad who saw 50 of those years) but since then what about Tigana? He took what Mickey Adams kickstarted and ran with it. Though Stock, MacDonald and Hodgson will always be in the mix. (NT) -- .., Tuesday, March 24, 06:33:04pm (host86-158-46-250.range86-158.btcentralplus.com/86.158.46.250)
  - Tigana did his gig in the 2nd division and was well funded, and therefore can't be compared with the managers mentioned above who did their business in the top division. (NT) -- Hammersmithender, Tuesday, March 24, 11:16:23pm (NoHost/31.94.12.1)
    - tbf, he spent very, very little in the championship - Saha and Collins came in for a combined amount that was pretty much what we got for the outgoing Horsfield, and Boa/Fernandes were on loan. The rest were already at the club. In the prem, he got loads yes, but the swell of issues in the second season (baresi, father passing, fayed pulling the plug because the cottage sale collapsed) didnt help. A case of what could have been, for me. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Wednesday, March 25, 09:36:56am (NoHost/90.241.79.67)

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