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The Independent Fulham Forum

Hopefully I’m wrong, but momentum is building in the belief that Marco won’t be re-signing (Pardew the latest), if so, who we thinking might be replacing him? -- Straw Clutchers Anonymous, Monday, February 23, 04:36:11pm (NoHost/90.196.13.114)
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- is it, where exactly ? (NT) -- GTS, Monday, February 23, 04:46:23pm (24.206.100.60.netskope-rdns.com/24.206.100.60)
- Assuming they don't Sell the Club its pretty simple. Quailfy for Europe, Marco will want to stay and Khans also want him too. But another mid table finish, Marco will look at his options, including Spain or National Jobs. Leaving the Khans sticking with A Known face. Most likely Frank or Potter whose playing style is more suited to our players? (NT) -- Wasp, Monday, February 23, 04:49:02pm (vm15558920.example.com/94.131.118.61)
- momentum building amongst pundits all trying to sound like there in the know…. But in reality they know as much as me & you …..Nothing !!!! (NT) -- Ffc, Monday, February 23, 05:08:59pm (97e1e33c.skybroadband.com/151.225.227.60)
  - EVERYONE already knows that you know NOTHING. (NT) -- You prove it EVERY matchday., Monday, February 23, 05:21:35pm (NoHost/213.207.130.41)
    - 🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱 (NT) -- Ffc, Monday, February 23, 07:14:56pm (97e1e33c.skybroadband.com/151.225.227.60)
- Is Boa available? (NT) -- .., Monday, February 23, 05:46:43pm (host31-50-73-241.range31-50.btcentralplus.com/31.50.73.241)
  - Yes (NT) -- Cutler 22, Monday, February 23, 07:11:04pm (customer.sfiabgr1.isp.starlink.com/145.224.119.239)
- Alonso, Ancellotti, Maresca, Pochettino, Nagelsmann, De Zerbi, Glasner, Iraola, Frank, Silva, etc. There will be more high-quality managers available this summer than there are jobs. My bet is Marco stays. If not, Premier league is so important now, we're maybe in the top-30 most attractive jobs in the world, especially with the next World Cup four years away. Once the big jobs they're all desperate for (Man U, Spurs, Real, etc) are gone we'll have a good shot at quality left-overs. (NT) -- eganonoa, Monday, February 23, 06:20:15pm (NoHost/195.222.49.31)
- Where is this momentum building? Source(s) please. (NT) -- Bexhill Beast, Monday, February 23, 06:39:21pm (host86-142-67-240.range86-142.btcentralplus.com/86.142.67.240)
  - Danny Murphy on MOTD last night said he doubted he would stay and in a previous occasion also stated the ‘most important thing was to secure his signature ‘ . He might not actually be ‘ITK’ but be assured he knows exactly the effect losing him would have on the Ckub with absent detached Owners (NT) -- Mickey, Monday, February 23, 07:14:38pm (82-132-220-154.dab.02.net/82.132.220.154)
    - You seem to know pretty much everything. You know what Danny Murphy thinks and know also that he's right. You know the Khans are detached despite massively financing the club. You know that our success has nothing to do with them and that Marco is lost without a Director of Football in the adjacent office involved in all decisions. Such knowledge. (NT) -- The Man With No Name, Monday, February 23, 07:39:10pm (host81-141-119-135.range81-141.btcentralplus.com/81.141.119.135)
    - I met Danny Murphy shortly before he left FFC at a fair on Putney Common, where he was there with his kids. When I asked him if he was going to stay with the Club for another season, his comment was along the lines of ‘he loved the Club and the staff but reckoned that they were too tight fisted to offer him a deal as good as he could get elsewhere’. I reckon he, wrongly, believes that Marco will not get the money he is after so will, reluctantly, leave. (NT) -- Ted White, Monday, February 23, 11:26:51pm (NoHost/45.80.184.91)
  - Alan Pardew was pontificating, and he had ‘heard’ that Silva was not interested in signing and that he would have signed by now if he was going to. I think it was on Talksport, but I can’t find it now. (NT) -- SCA, Monday, February 23, 07:56:17pm (NoHost/90.196.13.114)
    - HaHa Talksport and Pardew.There is a reason he is reduced to stupid adverts with the other dinosaurs.About as accurate as the Daily Mail. (NT) -- HemelRog, Monday, February 23, 08:14:11pm (host81-129-180-43.range81-129.btcentralplus.com/81.129.180.43)
      - Let’s hope so. (NT) -- SCA, Monday, February 23, 08:27:55pm (NoHost/90.196.13.114)
    - It was talk sport, I heard the program. Pardew said he was a Fulham supporter and had been following them. Didn't think Marco would resign at this point and that he felt Marco was a one foot in, one foot out, kind of manager. It was on Sunday night. (NT) -- RR, Monday, February 23, 10:25:00pm (NoHost/104.220.159.17)
- No-one since 1948 has served a longer continuous spell in charge of the team than Marco has. Extending it further still would be remarkable. (NT) -- b+w g., Monday, February 23, 07:40:55pm (host81-159-15-87.range81-159.btcentralplus.com/81.159.15.87)
  - Jezzard? (NT) -- Bexhill Beast, Monday, February 23, 10:07:01pm (host86-142-67-240.range86-142.btcentralplus.com/86.142.67.240)
    - Yes, you're right, into his 6th season. And that pre-dated me by a whisker, so Marco's merely the longest in my time. (NT) -- b+w g., Monday, February 23, 10:19:07pm (host81-159-15-87.range81-159.btcentralplus.com/81.159.15.87)
- "I EXPECT HIM TO STAY!" Tony Khan REVEALS he Expects boss Marco Silva to REMAIN at Fulham! (NT) -- Samuel, Monday, February 23, 11:47:52pm (NoHost/83.106.75.64)
- https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aiJgTnmALPY&t=2s&pp=2AECkAIB (NT) -- Samuel, Monday, February 23, 11:52:05pm (NoHost/83.106.75.64)
Relegation Fight and thoughts on Nuno -- Mickey, Monday, February 23, 02:33:35pm (82-132-220-63.dab.02.net/82.132.220.63)
So who goes down with Burnley and Wolves ?? General feeling it’s one of three ; ie Spurs , Forest and WHU. Looking at the fixtures ( esp the next few ) WHU for me have the most difficult , as much as they’ve improved of late. Spurs seem to be the most ‘demoralised ‘ of the three and the most injury hit , not forgetting the inexperience of their Interim Coach at this level . Forest ( as much as you might deny it ) have far too many good players to drop and now with the decent Vítor I expect them to be the most safe of the three . As much as I’d love it to be Spurs ( and it still could be ), my money would be on West Ham. Incidentally some of their Fans have labelled Nuno as a serial Pay-Out Engineer from his past . His feud with Edu at Forest was highlighted most by his desire to bring in the totally underwhelming Traore ( sentiment ?) , and surely it was quite understandable that this would’ve been refused . Then he went on to openly state a deterioration with the hierarchy thereby confirming his position as untenable . Some of his early in -game management and indeed selections at WHU left many of their fans baffled . He should’ve kept his lips sealed at Forest who tbf Were and had been strengthening well. We will obviously have a say over the next few games , and have an excellent opportunity to further the anxieties of all of them . Meanwhile let’s not forget ….. Mullery, Davis, Malbranque, Dembele and Dempsey , oh and even Lacy !!

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- Even worse Dyson and Stokes.Are you going to renew your NF season ticket if they go down?In a perfect world all three would go down. (NT) -- HemelRog, Monday, February 23, 02:39:46pm (host81-129-180-43.range81-129.btcentralplus.com/81.129.180.43)
  - I would choose Nobody over Silva who has fully cemented himself into his position , with his relationship and bond with our players . Would be very very difficult to reproduce that same depth however more tactically astute any successor might be . The Khans recognise this but have they done enough to convince him ? (NT) -- Mickey, Monday, February 23, 03:01:37pm (82-132-220-63.dab.02.net/82.132.220.63)
  - Didn't we get the thug Michael Brown from Spuds. Then there is also Mr Clif Jones! (NT) -- Al, Monday, February 23, 03:45:45pm (cust-51.179.206.203.cgn.as5482.net/51.179.206.203)
    - Brown was horrible.At least Cliff Jones had been decent. (NT) -- HemelRog, Monday, February 23, 04:02:59pm (host81-129-180-43.range81-129.btcentralplus.com/81.129.180.43)
      - Cliff Jones was more than decent - one of the true greats IMO but it had all gone by the time he came to us. No lack of effort just far from the player he'd been. We got Danny Murphy from Spurs. (NT) -- The Man With No Name, Monday, February 23, 04:20:23pm (host81-141-119-135.range81-141.btcentralplus.com/81.141.119.135)
- Whilst highlighting, what you think are Nuno's deficiencies, you are letting Marinakis off the hook. 4 Managers in one season is a testement to his incompetence in running that club; backing Edu whilst blaming Nuno was a management style that was never going to work. Let's be realistic here, Marinakis is the type of owner who should never be allowed near a club like Fulham. (NT) -- Mr Kurkuruza, Monday, February 23, 03:45:51pm (92.40.193.97.threembb.co.uk/92.40.193.97)
  - ‘nowhere near a Club like Fulham ‘ : very true . Whilst their Fans acknowledge his mistakes -no denying many in the 4 Managers Fiasco-they also realise they wouldn’t be in this League And in Europa League were it not for him . They love his passion and commitment and willingness to try and right his wrongs . I’d end by suggesting an absent , detached Owner like Khan ( despite his generosities) is equally Not the right fit for a Club like Forest (NT) -- Mickey, Monday, February 23, 03:58:47pm (82-132-220-63.dab.02.net/82.132.220.63)
    - I'd suggest that those who still admire Marinakis are either ignorant of how a football club should be run, or just plain gullible. (NT) -- Mr Kurkuruza, Monday, February 23, 04:03:37pm (92.40.193.97.threembb.co.uk/92.40.193.97)
      - That’s almost the entire Forest Fanbase (NT) -- Mickey, Monday, February 23, 04:07:58pm (82-132-220-63.dab.02.net/82.132.220.63)
        
        When someone has emotionally invested so much into a dream, then that emotion can act as a barrier to rational thinking. (NT) -- Mr Kurkuruza, Monday, February 23, 04:18:51pm (92.40.193.96.threembb.co.uk/92.40.193.96)
    - Such a sad CU (NT) -- Is our Mickey!, Monday, February 23, 05:23:19pm (unn-154-47-29-170.datapacket.com/154.47.29.170)
- So the guy who got forest into Europe should have kept his mouth shut and it’s completely understandable when he doesn’t get all he wants in terms of transfers. Silva is allowed to say what he wants about recruitment and should be given all he desires in transfers so he renews. A reasonable debate about who’ll go down but unable to twist it into a marinakis defence case and everyone else is to blame but him, don’t think I know anyone who loves an owner so much, it’s odd. (NT) -- Henry1879, Monday, February 23, 03:59:14pm (82-132-220-22.dab.02.net/82.132.220.22)
  - Yes the contradictions with that part of the post and all the endless prior stuff about Marco and the Khans are incredible. Shades of alanos' convoluted "logic" as time-after-time his predictions fell apart. Honestly I get the impression that these guys would rather see their online predictions come true - Marco to Forest for Mickey; Marco and Muniz to Spurs for Alanos - than their own team thriving. Presumably its to save face and say "I told you so." Going to be a "fun" summer on here. (NT) -- eganonoa, Monday, February 23, 04:14:38pm (NoHost/195.222.49.31)
- It's going to come down to Forest and West Ham. The gap to Spurs is just too big especially given their massive goal difference disparity and the difficult run-ins and cup distractions that both Forest and West Ham have. Reckon it comes down to the last week with West Ham v Leeds and Forest v Bournemouth deciding things. I tip it to West Ham because they've had Nuno in for longer, he's got his system in place, and he doesn't have that chairman desperately breathing down his neck causing chaos. (NT) -- eganonoa, Monday, February 23, 03:59:35pm (NoHost/195.222.49.31)
  - There is no evidence that cup matches provide a negative distraction .It's a modern myth. Spurs also have cup games to play. (NT) -- Hammersmithender, Monday, February 23, 07:27:42pm (NoHost/31.94.74.240)
- Agree with the OP on this. For me West Ham don’t have the overall quality of the other contenders, being overly reliant on Bowen & Summerville. . (NT) -- Bexhill Beast, Monday, February 23, 04:12:02pm (host86-142-67-240.range86-142.btcentralplus.com/86.142.67.240)
  - Who are a pair of very decent players. (NT) -- GA, Monday, February 23, 06:24:34pm (ool-18b90125.dyn.optonline.net/24.185.1.37)
- Re: Relegation Fight and thoughts on Nuno -- Flasher dunne, Monday, February 23, 09:32:34pm (NoHost/148.252.144.186)
£30 for adult ticket to watch Southampton at 12.00 on a Sunday in Hammersmith end you are taking the 🤬 Fulham. Lower prices would have sold the place out we are always missing the boat on things . Watching at home then -- Button, Monday, February 23, 01:37:51pm (nmal-23-b2-v4wan-169190-cust1261.vm24.cable.virginm.net/80.5.116.238)
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- You got done 2-0 Bus stop.Go bore your own weirdos. (NT) -- EKW, Monday, February 23, 01:54:28pm (NoHost/148.252.140.210)
- Have you got a TV under Kew Bridge Ray? (NT) -- Billy, Monday, February 23, 02:32:16pm (host81-129-180-43.range81-129.btcentralplus.com/81.129.180.43)
- Re: £30 for adult ticket to watch Southampton at 12.00 on a Sunday in Hammersmith end you are taking the 🤬 Fulham. Lower prices would have sold the place out we are always missing the boat on things . Watching at home then (NT) -- Mob handed over the Bridge in May #police escort, Monday, February 23, 03:33:33pm (host-2-102-164-149.as13285.net/2.102.164.149)
Commentators discriminate use of stats... -- dd, Monday, February 23, 01:15:12pm (host81-133-110-86.in-addr.btopenworld.com/81.133.110.86)

Commentator on Fulham-Sunderland yesterday said that if Fulham won it would be their first double over Sunderland since 2003. Seemed to be implying Sunderland had some sort of hoodoo over us?!

Neglected to mention that Sunderland have not done the double over Fulham for 38 years (back in 1988).

Just makes me laugh that commentators seem to line up stats that make Fulham look rubbish, regardless of whether the opponent's record is worse!!

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- Winning at Sunderland is no surprise, Fulham have only lost 3 of their last 15 games there! (NT) -- dd, Monday, February 23, 01:17:33pm (host81-133-110-86.in-addr.btopenworld.com/81.133.110.86)
  - Winning a game that got abandoned due to snow. Lost the replay. Fulhsmish (NT) -- bs, Monday, February 23, 01:27:06pm (NoHost/165.225.16.123)
- Goodman FFS.Likes us about as much as those morons Dawson and Smith. (NT) -- HemelRog, Monday, February 23, 02:17:24pm (host81-129-180-43.range81-129.btcentralplus.com/81.129.180.43)
  - Yeah, Goodman was awful. Made no secret of the fact he was pro-Sunderland. (NT) -- dd, Monday, February 23, 02:19:13pm (host81-133-110-86.in-addr.btopenworld.com/81.133.110.86)
  - Alan Smith, words fail. (NT) -- Al, Monday, February 23, 02:52:34pm (cust-51.179.206.203.cgn.as5482.net/51.179.206.203)
Southampton Tickets for SS Holders -- -, Monday, February 23, 12:07:31pm (host31-104-141-113.range31-104.btcentralplus.com/31.104.141.113)
Received an e-mail this morning saying Southampton tickets available for SS holders from today. Logged in an system says unavailable. Anyone else affected similarly ?

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- same here, tried several different ways to log in (NT) -- sog, Monday, February 23, 12:09:50pm (sotn-17-b2-v4wan-170624-cust348.vm36.cable.virginm.net/82.14.17.93)
  - OK, thanks for replying. I'll try it again later (NT) -- -, Monday, February 23, 12:12:23pm (host31-104-141-113.range31-104.btcentralplus.com/31.104.141.113)
- For your own seat go to your Profile page and it should be there , but for other seats not until Thurs 2pm onwards (NT) -- Mickey, Monday, February 23, 12:16:28pm (82-132-220-63.dab.02.net/82.132.220.63)
- It showed up for me in 'Reserved Tickets' as soon as I saw this post, having not done so previously. (NT) -- MF, Monday, February 23, 12:22:26pm (NoHost/212.103.232.179)
- Anyone know the price for Riverside tickets for this game? (NT) -- Observer, Monday, February 23, 01:00:32pm (NoHost/90.202.14.192)
  - I believe £40 (NT) -- Mickey, Monday, February 23, 01:12:52pm (82-132-220-63.dab.02.net/82.132.220.63)
Raul Jimenez -- Agincourt, Monday, February 23, 11:20:59am (NoHost/45.148.12.145)
Just like Brian McBride, unsung hero, workhorse, no hiding, just gets on with it.

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- Re: do we offer him another year ? (NT) -- Jonathan, Monday, February 23, 11:32:28am (a172-224-226-91.source.akaquill.net/172.224.226.91)
- Interesting to compare Raul and Mitro's Premier League scoring records for. Raul has scored 27 goals in 5663 PL minutes for us at a rate of 0.43 goals per 90. Mitro scored 28 goals in 6723 PL minutes for us at a rate of 0.37 goals per 90. And this has nothing to do with penalties as they both scored 6 in the Premier League for us (Mitro missed 5!). If you remove penalties, Raul's scored 0.33 non-PK goals per 90 in the Premier League for us, Mitro 0.29 per 90. (NT) -- eganonoa, Monday, February 23, 11:43:22am (NoHost/195.222.49.31)
  - And how nice is it when you get a penalty and you know Raul is on the pitch. Mitro had great value at set pieces, but Raul is decent at that too, Raul defo better at tracking back and pressing, whereas id say mitro is better at holding the ball up. Both have strengths & weaknesses, but overall don’t think there’s a huge amount to choose between the 2 when looking at their prem careers for us, mitro a higher peak, but Raul a more consistent performer for us. (NT) -- Henry1879, Monday, February 23, 01:49:48pm (cpc113812-lea23-2-0-cust213.6-3.cable.virginm.net/86.26.216.214)
    - Never in my life have I felt so confident on penalties. He'll miss one eventually, probably after a ruling that he functionally stopped during his run-up. But it'll be an aberration. In terms of their differences, yes agreed on Mitro's hold up and Raul's pressing. The other major difference is linkup play. Raul drops deep like a Sheringham or Kane; Mitro leads the line. Sometimes we need a line-leader, and we have that in Muniz. They make a great combo. (NT) -- eganonoa, Monday, February 23, 02:32:27pm (NoHost/195.222.49.31)
- Has to stay on the current terms. We will be lucky to replace him with someone better. He has a good 2 years in him. We still need a CF, yes, but at least Raul as backup is a no-brainer. IMO. (NT) -- CB, Monday, February 23, 01:04:03pm (213-18-171-225.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.171.225)
Sess tugged the shirt. Soft Pen -- franz, Monday, February 23, 09:03:26am (ve1132.venus.dedi.server-hosting.expert/78.31.67.70)
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and Plod had offside goal and linecall by a toenail

its just the newest way to determine who wins when

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- It was stupid by Sess a penalty all day long not soft. (NT) -- sog, Monday, February 23, 10:23:33am (sotn-17-b2-v4wan-170624-cust348.vm36.cable.virginm.net/82.14.17.93)
  - Maybe it was but its because the refs are so inconsistent with shirt pulls and pushing in the box that players take the risk. (NT) -- The Drobe, Monday, February 23, 10:40:31am (host109-152-222-114.range109-152.btcentralplus.com/109.152.222.114)
    - It was a terrible decision to even give the ref something to consider. It was against a CB on the byline, not through on goal or against a brilliant attacking player. You could tell by his reaction he knew he’d made a very poor decision. Said it at the time, but if that’s a Bassey or Robinson, they’d get dogs abuse, guess he got lucky we still went on to win. (NT) -- Henry1879, Monday, February 23, 10:59:38am (82-132-220-22.dab.02.net/82.132.220.22)
- Both penalties were correct decisions. The key difference was that the referee appeared highly reluctant to give one, and indeed wouldn't have if not for VAR, whereas he gave the other without so much as blinking. I'd like to think the second wouldn't have been given had it not been for the first, but it probably would have. (NT) -- MF, Monday, February 23, 11:15:18am (NoHost/212.103.232.179)
- He was a silly boy, and he knows it. Happily, the lads saved any long-term embarrassment (NT) -- CB, Monday, February 23, 01:09:17pm (213-18-171-225.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.171.225)
Pantomime in the box. -- HemelRog, Monday, February 23, 07:03:12am (host81-129-180-43.range81-129.btcentralplus.com/81.129.180.43)
The whole thing has become a total lottery.Anybody got a clue what now defines a punishable offence.Players are now pulled,pushed,fouled and impeded with total impunity The diving is also ridiculous The dive for the chalked off Spurs goal highlighted the inconsistency as well.Compare to the MU goal against us.I can remember fair bullet headers from the likes of Guthrie and Warboys.Those were the days.If the officials started to penalise every bit of dodgy play perhaps we could return to less annoying days.Rose tinted?Sort it out.Some chance.

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- Reckon we need to summer in Japan learning Sumo. It's actually more than just in the box. Little grappling duels all over the pitch, subtle pushes and shirt tugs, destabilize your opponent rather than tackle or obviously foul them. (NT) -- eganonoa, Monday, February 23, 07:50:38am (cable-146-255-156-96.dynamic.telemach.ba/146.255.156.96)
  - Actually think we are being short changed and sold a pup.Without getting too political I think it’s just a mirror image of modern society.Dishonesty and piss taking abound.Take Arsenal.An obviously very talented team who have mastered the dark arts under Lego Man.Sad and they are not alone.Perhaps I am getting my undies in a twist over a minor irritation but… (NT) -- HemelRog, Monday, February 23, 08:04:18am (host81-129-180-43.range81-129.btcentralplus.com/81.129.180.43)
    - I'm not sure of the broader societal message. Feels like we've been living in a world where morality doesn't guide conduct so much as following "the letter of the law" for a very long time. But this grappling/destabilizing business is definitely something that has taken hold in the Premier League. Reminds most of the Italian defending of the 1990s, but even more subtle than that knowing the cameras are always on. And everyone is doing it all over the pitch. I'm certain its taught and practiced. (NT) -- eganonoa, Monday, February 23, 08:47:23am (NoHost/217.75.196.3)
      - The world is run mainly by crooks,grifters,dickheads and charlatans.Perhaps it always has been but it gets more rubber ducked by the day.The game as well.Top brass,officials,managers,coaches and even players.Perhaps we get what we deserve for our own bias. (NT) -- HemelRog, Monday, February 23, 09:05:01am (host81-129-180-43.range81-129.btcentralplus.com/81.129.180.43)
- Blocking/grappling has gone too far, it’s v.hard to ref, teams are v.good at doing it with subtlety, offensive & defensive, it’s created a league which rewards set piece & big players too much. Biggest bug bear is the time, every long throw & corner is almost a minute now, yet nobody gets booked for time wasting unless it’s late on. Set pieces are built up as these big events, Arsenal being the pioneers; fine they exploited the rules and how it’s reffed, but it needs tweaking. (NT) -- Henry1879, Monday, February 23, 08:07:36am (82-132-220-22.dab.02.net/82.132.220.22)
- On MOTD last night, they highlighted the push on Bassey which was permitted unlike yesterday with Spurs (NT) -- Barry@ENF, Monday, February 23, 08:08:22am (NoHost/148.252.145.241)
- I think it needs a rule change that penalises obstruction on the goalkeeper in the 6 yard box. (NT) -- old codger, Monday, February 23, 08:21:15am (86-3-237-96.pon.virginmedia.net/86.3.237.96)
- VAR *should* be far more consistent that ref's used to be. It cannot, because PGMOL saw a way to make 3 more people relevant to the game. Which brings in human error, ego and bias. PGMOL could train Ai on 1,000 incidences that are handball (for example) and 1,000 that are not and then have Ai monitor the game for handballs, in real time. (NT) -- ASPT, Monday, February 23, 08:35:16am (114-129-187-208.ip4.superloop.au/114.129.187.208)
  - They could simplify offside - every player has a GPS chip on each arm and each foot - if any chip is in an offside position as a ball is played (determined by 1 operator) you're offside. But they need more celebreties - the players have profiles, why can't we. (NT) -- ASPT, Monday, February 23, 08:40:30am (114-129-187-208.ip4.superloop.au/114.129.187.208)
    - And they could end the VAR debate in one fell swoop - Anallyse a randon 500 games priorrto VAR - pick a subject like offside - show us how many were wrong before and how many there are now. Prove that these delays are worth it. Shut down the debate. Why this has not happened baffles me. (NT) -- ASPT, Monday, February 23, 08:43:17am (114-129-187-208.ip4.superloop.au/114.129.187.208)
      - Let VAR deal with objective issues only but empower the referee to see a replay if he's unsure of anything. Allow each bench one or two challenges a match. VAR could be done much better than it is by removing the endless rereffing of everything. (NT) -- The Man With No Name, Monday, February 23, 08:51:50am (host81-141-119-135.range81-141.btcentralplus.com/81.141.119.135)
      - They do that, the % of correct decisions is substantially higher than VAR than without. The question is in it’d current guise is it worth thr detriment to viewing & in stadium experience, I’d say no. I don’t like the challenge idea, teams would use it to cynically stop games & manipulate things at the end of games. Expectations need to change, with VAR it’ll never be 100% correct, I do think, bar us, VAR has been bit better this season than last. (NT) -- Henry1878, Monday, February 23, 09:04:41am (cpc113812-lea23-2-0-cust213.6-3.cable.virginm.net/86.26.216.214)
    - Not sure satellite positioning is accurate to the mm so I don't think that's the offside solution. I think what you are suggesting would be more like thousands of little sensors lining the pitch like the light beams in a Mission impossible villain's vault. But your point still holds. They could reduce the human element of VAR and just give the ref quick access to computer determined analysis. Or better yet, just reduce its use to a certain number of appeals like in other sports. (NT) -- eganonoa, Monday, February 23, 08:57:02am (NoHost/217.75.196.3)
      - whatever sensors they use in the ball for goal line tech. Would also sort the ‘was the ball out’ controversies. (NT) -- ASPT, Monday, February 23, 08:45:19pm (NoHost/1.145.39.89)
- Pusing an opponent into an offside position when a free kick is taken - we saw that over the weekend (NT) -- Old Dave., Monday, February 23, 09:21:18am (54.249.125.91.dyn.plus.net/91.125.249.54)
- Apart from our game against Liverpool, how many times this season has the 5cm tolerance been applied? (NT) -- Ted White, Monday, February 23, 09:55:00am (host86-191-229-228.range86-191.btcentralplus.com/86.191.229.228)
  - As the thread above stated. Liverplod getting more than their fair share of VAR decisions? (NT) -- Avanti man, Monday, February 23, 10:17:32am (NoHost/104.194.11.199)
- Totally agree. The rules need to be precise and precisely refereed. No need to allow any grabbing, pushing, pulling, tripping, flattening. Also the penalties for fouls should apply in the match, they should punish the guilty team whilst restoring the innocent team's position. There would be a lot less fouling, fewer grey areas and the best team might win. (NT) -- Speedy, Monday, February 23, 05:18:30pm (unn-79-127-164-131.datapacket.com/79.127.164.131)
Bounce back -- Alboy, Sunday, February 22, 07:27:30pm (ec2-3-8-180-164.eu-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com/3.8.180.164)
After a difficult run it was nice to see the team bounce back today with a deserved win. Defensively we looked strong and Bassey was outstanding today. I thought Sess combined well with Kevin first half and it was a shame Kevin got injured. We broke well in the first half and we were definitely the better side but failing to take our chances saw us go in level. Great header from Jiminez and another brilliant penalty put us in control. A silly mistake from Sess gave them the penalty. Once again though a great run from Wilson and a great finish from Iwobi put us in control. It was good to see Cairney come on at the end a d once again he looked very composed on the ball. The squad is looking strong let's hope we can go on another winning run.

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Spurs -- Mickey, Sunday, February 22, 07:10:48pm (host86-142-52-127.range86-142.btcentralplus.com/86.142.52.127)
look very vulnerable once they lose the ball in their own half , certainly not helped by being forced to play Palhinha as one of a back 3. Their only threat before Arsenal got a grip on the game , was when they -mostly Simmons-were running at them. I hope we’ll be decisive and clinical enough to exploit this next Sunday and try to press them into
errors . A 4-1 defeat again today will do nothing to instil belief within their camp . Feeling even more confident now than had they lost more gallantly

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- I suspect it’ll be as simple as ‘if we play well, and score, we win, if we play badly, we lose. (NT) -- SCA, Sunday, February 22, 07:16:25pm (NoHost/90.196.13.114)
- Not sure what Palhinha is doing in a three at the back for them? Waste of a good strong midfielder especially when you see Bissouma or Sarr in there? He got exposed for pace once or twice and an area if his there next week to exploit. Instructions must be go at them from the off as they are so fragile. (NT) -- Gary, Sunday, February 22, 07:41:07pm (host86-164-200-18.range86-164.btcentralplus.com/86.164.200.18)
- Not sure that was a 1-4. Thought they showed more fight than previously. (NT) -- CB, Sunday, February 22, 11:00:55pm (213-18-171-225.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.171.225)
- Ebeneezer Eze (or whatever his name is) sooo unsporting. Taunting Tottenham fans in the same way he taunted Fulham fans in the FA cup quarter final last year. So spoilt and petulant and would be screaming blue murder if anyone gave anything back. Laughable. (NT) -- --, Monday, February 23, 12:41:54pm (host81-133-110-86.in-addr.btopenworld.com/81.133.110.86)
£5.5 million. Raul jimenez what a steal .he's up there with BMB. -- Showery weather, Sunday, February 22, 05:18:36pm (NoHost/94.2.243.131)
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- Agree, but remember the £5/6m a year. Love the guy again another Fulham legend late in his career. Worth keeping but has a value still so not easy. Maybe 2 years at same money? (NT) -- CB, Sunday, February 22, 06:28:42pm (213-18-171-225.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.171.225)
- Wages not bovvered about Watch a master craftsman at work (NT) -- A class act, Sunday, February 22, 06:36:33pm (NoHost/94.2.243.131)
  - His contract runs out soon pal?? Get in the real world. (NT) -- CB, Sunday, February 22, 06:40:25pm (213-18-171-225.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.171.225)
    - eh ? Said he’s a class .Just pleasure watching him (NT) -- Is that ok with you ?, Sunday, February 22, 07:13:33pm (NoHost/94.2.243.131)
      - I’m saying we need to keep him. He is out of contract this summer. He has put in 110% for us from day one. And we need to keep him as long as possible. (NT) -- CB, Sunday, February 22, 10:56:58pm (213-18-171-225.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.171.225)
- A wonderful footballer and indeed a steal for what we paid...works his socks off (NT) -- Barney Travers, Sunday, February 22, 07:10:39pm (NoHost/148.252.133.213)
- I think you will find we have a one ear option to extend! (NT) -- Jonathan Baines, Monday, February 23, 07:48:17am (cust-51.179.198.99.cgn.as5482.net/51.179.198.99)
  - And the rest of him can go back to Mexico? The Khans haven't got a clue. (NT) -- The Man With No Name, Monday, February 23, 08:45:32am (host81-141-119-135.range81-141.btcentralplus.com/81.141.119.135)
  - Re: I think you will find we have a one ear option to extend! -- Reg, Monday, February 23, 08:48:19am (NoHost/84.68.104.23)
Nigerian Boys Are Back! -- eganonoa, Sunday, February 22, 04:25:31pm (NoHost/146.70.179.104)
That was the best we've seen of Iwobi in the No. 8 role, I think. I loved how, unlike in prior matches, he and ESR were not rigidly fixed on a particular side of Berge, instead switching left and right often. Iwobi very often looks better on that left side of central midfield, as does ESR, though I thought some of ESR's best moments today were on the right. And that meant Iwobi was popping up everywhere.

And it was so good to have Bassey back. For all of his faults - and I agree with those who say he looks better because of all his recoveries from poor positions - he brings a physicality and pace that we desperately need. Andersen needs him and Tete, also excellent today, on either side of him.

Pity we lost Kevin, though. Sess and him have such a good understanding on the left. Hope he's back soon, because it doesn't sound like Chuckwaeze will be back.

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- Why wont chuck be back ? He trained on Friday according to Silva (NT) -- Jonathan, Sunday, February 22, 05:17:20pm (NoHost/104.28.86.102)
  - Eggy wants to arrange a tie up with one of the clubs he hustles for ( of course) It’s wishful thinking . (NT) -- alanos, Sunday, February 22, 05:32:31pm (82-132-214-65.dab.02.net/82.132.214.65)
  - Didn't realize that. Thought it was worse than that. Good stuff. (NT) -- eganonoa, Sunday, February 22, 05:58:45pm (NoHost/146.70.179.104)
    - Saying on fof Kevin has a bad injury . Broken toe is bandied about (NT) -- FOF, Sunday, February 22, 06:20:53pm (NoHost/94.2.243.131)
      - Toe has been bandaged not bandied ! (NT) -- alanos, Sunday, February 22, 06:33:44pm (82-132-214-65.dab.02.net/82.132.214.65)
        
        Banded about. Get it. Don't be another pedant. We have enough. (NT) -- CB, Sunday, February 22, 06:44:33pm (213-18-171-225.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.171.225)
        
        Bandied was the correct word. Poor old alanos. The new John Saunders? (NT) -- Travelex, Sunday, February 22, 08:29:48pm (host86-157-159-168.range86-157.btcentralplus.com/86.157.159.168)
        
        It was a joke that went over your head you fucking twerp .And your little snide remarks about someone who is no longer around says everything about you . (NT) -- alanos, Monday, February 23, 12:11:45am (82-132-213-122.dab.02.net/82.132.213.122)
Sunderland game -- Henry1879, Sunday, February 22, 04:18:18pm (cpc113812-lea23-2-0-cust213.6-3.cable.virginm.net/86.26.216.214)
Funny how a win changes how things look, easy to say, but we are what we are, 8-14th team, lots of close games that can go either way and not as bad as we think when we lose a couple and not as good as we think when we win a couple. We’ve been trying that type of win for ages, get ahead, sit deep then score on the counter, but we’ve not got the counter attack going well until today.

Thought our CBs were very very good against a limited but physical team, it suits Anderson/bassey having a big strong CF to mark and head balls away. Thought sess was really poor, to concede that pen v Ballard of all players, was really bad, if Robinson had done the same he’d have been getting absolutely hammered. Agree with most Berge looks almost tired and lethargic, got caught plenty, but part of tbah is possibly playing next to Iwobi who doesn’t help as much going back. Thought Kevin looked bright and our best player until he went off. Raul just keeps going, ref really had something against him, doesn’t get talked about but he’s a brilliant header of the ball, for his size he is outstanding at finishing headed chances. Bobb is going to be good, has brilliant change of direction and ability to work in small spaces and thought that last goal was outstanding, the run, the pass and the finish all immaculate.

Just funny how football is, we just suit playing Sunderland, do they not get the crowd and emotion into the game against a team like us, who knows, but odd watching the games v us and seeing how good their home record is and how many points they have. Suddenly 3 points behind 7th and a good FA cup draw and opportunity still there to turn a decent season into something special.

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- I felt Bassey was tremendous this afternoon and -as you state -Bobb has great ability esp in confined space . I felt after the game at CC that they looked no more than a jumped up Championship Team and despite their excellent home record , nothing I saw today convinced me otherwise . Pivotal game for us today and we did well , having taken the sting out of their physicality before punishing them . Let’s hope Kevin will recover speedily (NT) -- Mickey, Sunday, February 22, 04:28:09pm (host86-142-52-127.range86-142.btcentralplus.com/86.142.52.127)
- I wasn't convinced by the defence. We gave them at least 4 good chances. (NT) -- Observer, Sunday, February 22, 04:29:13pm (NoHost/90.202.14.192)
- We actually got a 2 goal lead and could finally relax, we spend mostly every game hanging on by an odd goal with our poor finishing (NT) -- Waterboy, Sunday, February 22, 04:39:37pm (NoHost/84.65.25.204)
  - And yet, currently only 7 teams have scored more than us (the big 5, plus Brentford and Bournemouth). It's the defense that's let us down. Only 5 teams have conceded more than us, the relegation three plus Leeds and Bournemouth. (NT) -- eganonoa, Sunday, February 22, 04:51:23pm (NoHost/146.70.179.104)
- I really don't understand the Berge haters. If any of you have played football at a decent level, you would kill to have a player like him in your midfield holding it all together. He is the glue in the midfield, positionally good, intercepting balls, and great distribution. No way is he, or should he, be dropped. (NT) -- GA, Sunday, February 22, 04:44:02pm (ool-18b90125.dyn.optonline.net/24.185.1.37)
  - Agree completely. For "lethargic" you could equally use "relaxed" or "calm". He isn't the driving force in midfield and we do all recognize we want and need that (hopefully Iwobi based on today). But he's such a safe player to have there, always available, rarely pick-pocketted, incredibly assured passing and recylcling. The glue, as you say. (NT) -- eganonoa, Sunday, February 22, 04:47:14pm (NoHost/146.70.179.104)
  - I’m making comment purely on this game and he wasn’t very good, got into a few good attacking positions and did nothing and got caught 2 or 3 times in really bad areas just outside our box. He’s a very decent prem CM, probs at about his level, never have I said anything aboit dropping him. As an isolated one off game he didn’t have a particularly good game today, doesn’t mean I think he’s a bad player. (NT) -- Henry1879, Sunday, February 22, 05:02:32pm (cpc113812-lea23-2-0-cust213.6-3.cable.virginm.net/86.26.216.214)
    - It wasn't a dig at you. Read the earlier comments during the game. Asinine. (NT) -- GA, Sunday, February 22, 05:06:54pm (ool-18b90125.dyn.optonline.net/24.185.1.37)
    - Objectively, on whoscored, sess got our worst rating and Berge our second worst, that’s about where I have it from this specific game. Again, doesn’t mean I think either are terrible or indeed should be dropped (although I’d pick Robbo over sess), it’s just an opinion backed up with some facts from the Sunderland game. (NT) -- Henry1879, Sunday, February 22, 05:07:30pm (cpc113812-lea23-2-0-cust213.6-3.cable.virginm.net/86.26.216.214)
  - Uh oh! You used the “played at a decent level” card, which immediately alienates 99% of posters. (NT) -- SCA, Sunday, February 22, 05:05:51pm (NoHost/90.196.13.114)
    - Yep. It's so obvious. (NT) -- GA, Sunday, February 22, 05:07:48pm (ool-18b90125.dyn.optonline.net/24.185.1.37)
      - Berge is our Didier Deschamps (NT) -- The Water Carrier, Sunday, February 22, 05:36:50pm (NoHost/94.2.243.131)
        
        The thing is, he could still be that and more IMO. When he broke forward right at the end I was screaming at him to shoot, but he dithered and it was gone. (NT) -- SCA, Sunday, February 22, 06:14:05pm (NoHost/90.196.13.114)
        
        Hang on but you get Tete doing that and it still is on orbit. Berge has a main job not as striker. Agree he could have afford to (NT) -- CB, Sunday, February 22, 06:38:17pm (213-18-171-225.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.171.225)
        He "dithered" and then passed it to a green shirt, as he is in the team for. (NT) -- GA, Sunday, February 22, 07:19:09pm (ool-18b90125.dyn.optonline.net/24.185.1.37)
- Re: Sunderland game (NT) -- Berge is excellent.After Man Utd pen Shoot more., Sunday, February 22, 07:36:43pm (host-2-102-164-149.as13285.net/2.102.164.149)
Great win -- Alboy, Sunday, February 22, 04:14:13pm (ec2-3-8-180-164.eu-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com/3.8.180.164)
Well deserved win we were the better side in the first half but failed to capitalise on the chances. Second half much better great header by Jiminez and a fantastic penalty once again. Gave away a stupid penalty but a great run from Wilson and a great finish from Iwobi, well deserved win. I thought Bassey was outstanding at the back, sess apart from the penalty had a good game. Nice to get back to winning ways coyw.

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Run Harry Run!!! -- CB, Sunday, February 22, 03:50:20pm (213-18-171-225.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.171.225)
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- . we all shouted!!! dont pass to out of form ALEX.. 2boobs there or go yourself Harry... butt (NT) -- 2 bob maid terrible run !, Sunday, February 22, 03:51:41pm (ns5023939.ip-148-113-162.net/148.113.162.142)
What a wonderful breakaway goal -- ,, Sunday, February 22, 03:49:55pm (NoHost/128.1.171.134)
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And marco is relaxing on the bench -- Agincourt, Sunday, February 22, 03:47:22pm (NoHost/45.148.12.145)
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Another classic fulham performance with silva at the wheel -- Sack him, Sunday, February 22, 03:41:10pm (NoHost/147.93.215.162)
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- Hahaha. Silva haters choking tonight. (NT) -- Beano Reader, Sunday, February 22, 04:18:50pm (host-92-19-68-124.as13285.net/92.19.68.124)
  - How? That win wasn't down to him it was down to the players just like the penalty they got he's completely ruined berge as a player and we still look for the pass back we won and I'm happy but that was not down to him (NT) -- nice bait, Sunday, February 22, 04:34:20pm (NoHost/147.93.215.162)
    - But all the defeats are due to him apparently. You cunt. (NT) -- Beano Reader, Sunday, February 22, 07:03:41pm (host-92-19-68-124.as13285.net/92.19.68.124)
      - Not always but yes he is responsible we didn't play well today they had chances luckily they were off it but I guess you didn't see that with Silvia's balls covering your eyes if he loved us as much as you love him maybe he'd sign the new deal? (NT) -- Im in your mums cunt, Sunday, February 22, 09:40:01pm (NoHost/217.216.60.33)
How Fulhamish! -- ,, Sunday, February 22, 03:40:58pm (NoHost/128.1.171.134)
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them ref looked and sounded like 'he didn't really want to award them pen -- var y good, Sunday, February 22, 03:27:24pm (ns5013203.ip-15-235-51.net/15.235.51.187)
top half we go (back)

season back on!!

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- We mustn't sit back (NT) -- CB, Sunday, February 22, 03:33:34pm (213-18-171-225.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.171.225)
  - So predictable. (NT) -- CB, Sunday, February 22, 03:40:46pm (213-18-171-225.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.171.225)
  - Re: We mustn't sit back.. ha ha 15 minutes of brown pants time... as already stated! a draw ends season! (NT) -- fbbf, Sunday, February 22, 03:42:04pm (ns5013203.ip-15-235-51.net/15.235.51.187)
- Very quick to give their pen. (NT) -- Observer, Sunday, February 22, 03:45:18pm (NoHost/90.202.14.192)
Fulham -- Ffc, Sunday, February 22, 02:57:13pm (97e1e33c.skybroadband.com/151.225.227.60)
What a boring team to watch we have become
No midfield box to box runners ….
No creativity from midfield
Can’t seem to finish any chances

Another 85 min plus defeat on the cards
Queue Silva …we were the best team on the pitch ….etc etc blah blah 🥱

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- and some wonder why Silva wanted another CM!! Bassey has been good this far ; alas not so the very slow Berge (NT) -- Mickey, Sunday, February 22, 03:03:27pm (host86-142-52-127.range86-142.btcentralplus.com/86.142.52.127)
- It's a good? old-fashioned scrap that we should be winning. Bobb will be the key, should win this with our skill. (NT) -- CB, Sunday, February 22, 03:10:30pm (213-18-171-225.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.171.225)
- We've got a headless chicken transfer policy. There's clearly no understanding of what we needed last summer and that trend continues with millions wasted once again. It's shocking that a prem quality central midfielder and striker wasn't top of the list and that lack of awareness is playing out in real time. Whoever is behind this transfer business has cost the club fortunes with unnecessary signings of largely championship ability. (NT) -- Samuel, Sunday, February 22, 03:12:15pm (NoHost/83.106.75.64)
  - All the usual suspects making themselves look as silly as ever(I know). (NT) -- HemelRog, Sunday, February 22, 04:33:22pm (host81-129-180-43.range81-129.btcentralplus.com/81.129.180.43)
- That lasted well. (NT) -- Observer, Sunday, February 22, 03:35:48pm (NoHost/90.202.14.192)
- we want to SING WHEN WERE WINNING (NT) -- ken, Sunday, February 22, 03:38:41pm (host86-167-40-13.range86-167.btcentralplus.com/86.167.40.13)
- Our poor finishing has been common over the last 2 seasons, days like today where we finally get that 2 goal cushion have been few and fat between (NT) -- Waterboy, Sunday, February 22, 04:31:22pm (NoHost/84.65.25.204)
  - Amazing how we keep scoring eh. (NT) -- HemelRog, Sunday, February 22, 04:35:34pm (host81-129-180-43.range81-129.btcentralplus.com/81.129.180.43)
- Give it a rest you daft twat. There are some utter drips who post regularly on here, but you are their king. (NT) -- Spencer, Sunday, February 22, 05:31:00pm (NoHost/2.126.137.25)
kevins season over them -- spigs pete gridthem, Sunday, February 22, 02:46:53pm (ns575172.ip-51-222-40.net/51.222.40.83)
just when he was looking like Martial levels...

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- Yes it’s a shame. He was making things happen for us. I want to see Muniz and king come on for the scene half. Raul gonna get sent off and what does smith Rowe bring (NT) -- Hg, Sunday, February 22, 02:55:21pm (brnt-04-b2-v4wan-174694-cust37.vm7.cable.virginm.net/82.6.160.38)
- Re: kevins season and those blind commentators couldn't see that the Sunderland player stamped his heel onto Kevins toe (NT) -- MWKent, Sunday, February 22, 03:01:33pm (host-80-46-1-168.as13285.net/80.46.1.168)
  - I think stampted is a little ott but yes they completely missed the obvious cause of his injury. (NT) -- Bexhill Beast, Sunday, February 22, 03:10:53pm (host86-142-67-240.range86-142.btcentralplus.com/86.142.67.240)
- It’s blatant foul yet I still believe we have the squad to keep going in a positive direction (NT) -- Jt20, Sunday, February 22, 04:14:45pm (a172-226-6-103.deploy.static.akamaitechnologies.com/172.226.6.103)
Berge is the weak link in this team. -- Just visiting, Sunday, February 22, 02:35:08pm (NoHost/90.202.78.237)
We need at least 2 central midfielders in the summer. Cairney too old, legs gone, never top quality prem player anyway. Lukic is just not up to it, reliable 6/10 but we need better. Iwobi doesn’t want to play there but unquestionably our best bet, unfortunately doesn’t have that metal that a CDM needs. Reed not up to it either, good option from the bench. Berge, see above.

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- Utter Bullshit. (NT) -- GA, Sunday, February 22, 02:38:49pm (ool-18b90125.dyn.optonline.net/24.185.1.37)
  - Why? Do you think he’s good? Or do you not think we need CMs? (NT) -- Just visiting, Sunday, February 22, 03:34:36pm (NoHost/90.202.78.237)
    - Berge is one of the best CM's in the Prem. Wake up. (NT) -- GA, Monday, February 23, 12:49:59am (ool-18b90125.dyn.optonline.net/24.185.1.37)
- We miss a pereira type of player someone who helps the press and can bring the ball forward also would be nice if they had a shot unlike berge (NT) -- Big summer, Sunday, February 22, 02:41:26pm (NoHost/147.93.215.162)
- We've needed a central midfielder upgrade since last season, which was glaringly obvious. Berge was never going to be the answer - he is, like many in the squad, a good championship player. So you're right in the respect that we need two new center mids this summer. However, although Cairney isn't top 4 quality, he is a good premier League player. (NT) -- Samuel, Sunday, February 22, 03:04:20pm (NoHost/83.106.75.64)
- The weak links today are Wilson and Raul. (NT) -- GA, Sunday, February 22, 03:16:59pm (ool-18b90125.dyn.optonline.net/24.185.1.37)
Seen milk turn quicker than Berge -- Ffc, Sunday, February 22, 02:30:55pm (97e1e33c.skybroadband.com/151.225.227.60)
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- He is awful, worst player on the pitch by a country mile. (NT) -- Cutler 22, Sunday, February 22, 02:33:24pm (customer.sfiabgr1.isp.starlink.com/145.224.119.239)
  - Utter Bullshit (NT) -- GA, Sunday, February 22, 02:39:52pm (ool-18b90125.dyn.optonline.net/24.185.1.37)
  - Apart from that ball he played to the wide left from edge of his own area I guess. Wish he'd shoot sometimes though... (NT) -- Jim©, Sunday, February 22, 02:59:42pm (host86-170-249-213.range86-170.btcentralplus.com/86.170.249.213)
- He is so risk free it becomes a liability no shoot no risky passes he just exists in the midfield he really is awful (NT) -- Pathetic, Sunday, February 22, 02:51:23pm (NoHost/147.93.215.162)
  - Rand to blame the player Shows you .know zero ball!!.... he isnt a defensive mid. .. but silva uses him there? tk signed him to play there?... poor from TK and MS to have iwboi A winger in as AM. and berge as DCM. poor mishmash! (NT) -- also no Cf jimize is finished As forward of note?, Sunday, February 22, 02:58:32pm (ns5013203.ip-15-235-51.net/15.235.51.187)
    - So what position is he? Ha can't tackle like a dm he can't play a forward pass like a cam he doesn't carry the ball like a cm and for his height he never wins a header so he can play cb where does he play? Face it he's a poor signing (NT) -- zero ball knowledge, Sunday, February 22, 03:03:13pm (NoHost/147.93.215.162)
      - hes a bits an pieces CM [up and down/8) master of none. Silvas is to blame for taking ANY attacking play/ambition from him....... look at how he plays for Norway and see (at a lower level). he can still do the forward/AM things. Which is why he doesnt work with Iwobi but looks better with Lukic and Tc whom both 'can share' some of the defensive work (NT) -- Sam, Sunday, February 22, 03:11:58pm (ns5013203.ip-15-235-51.net/15.235.51.187)
        
        I haven't seen him for Norway but when he was in Belgium he was highly rated and was a commanding presence I agree silva has coached a lot out of him though (NT) -- Cam he do it, Sunday, February 22, 03:29:30pm (NoHost/147.93.215.162)
- Thought he was poor 1st half - made 3 errors very early on. Did improve somewhat (NT) -- Bexhill Beast, Sunday, February 22, 03:13:26pm (host86-142-67-240.range86-142.btcentralplus.com/86.142.67.240)
1 Leno 2 Tete 5 Andersen 3 Bassey 30 Sessegnon 17 Iwobi 16 Berge 8 Wilson 32 Smith Rowe 22 Kevin 7 Jiménez Substitutes 6 Reed 9 Rodrigo Muniz 10 Cairney 14 Bobb 15 Cuenca 21 Castagne 23 Lecomte 24 King 31 Diop -- CB, Sunday, February 22, 01:12:12pm (213-18-171-225.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.171.225)
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- Where's Jedi? (NT) -- Fulham Man, Sunday, February 22, 01:16:35pm (host-2-102-160-85.as13285.net/2.102.160.85)
  - Probably still trying to find the ball after his last cross. (NT) -- JBW, Sunday, February 22, 01:22:09pm (NoHost/104.28.88.140)
- TC on bench, that's handy (NT) -- Al, Sunday, February 22, 01:47:34pm (cust-51.179.206.203.cgn.as5482.net/51.179.206.203)
You Couldn't Make It Up....actually, they clearly do! -- JK69, Sunday, February 22, 11:54:38am (33bf4bb9.skybroadband.com/51.191.75.185)
Harry Wilson being linked with Wrexham in todays press.

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- Now there's a club with ambition+. Obviously confident of Prem football. (NT) -- CB, Sunday, February 22, 12:10:58pm (213-18-171-225.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.171.225)
- so its not the 'same' playbook As the Khans using for that PSV USA b striker?....... Wrexham have plans that surpass FFC/CC and they clearly want Wales best player who maybee is interested in going back to his roots? (NT) -- London isnt for everone ASK ZAMBO!, Sunday, February 22, 12:27:08pm (ns5020950.ip-148-113-153.net/148.113.153.96)
Forest tickets -- Sean, Saturday, February 21, 12:36:17pm (cpc159747-finc22-2-0-cust115.4-2.cable.virginm.net/81.108.184.116)
Does anyone know if Forest tickets will be digital? Also if a buy 8 tickets and assign them to other STH to I get all 8 of them if digital or they send them straight to assigned person?

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- I think it is best to ring ticket office that is a lot of questions. Good luck (NT) -- Button, Saturday, February 21, 01:36:19pm (NoHost/85.255.232.51)
Glasner looks like he has talked himself out of a big job. Could be good replacement for Silvs -- Alex, Friday, February 20, 09:13:33pm (NoHost/51.37.11.198)
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- Re: Glasner looks like he has talked himself out of a big job. Could be good replacement for Silvs -- Fulham Russ, Friday, February 20, 09:37:22pm (NoHost/31.94.34.151)
- Marco Silva insists he and the Fulham hierarchy are “aligned” in their discussions about his future. (NT) -- Goss, Saturday, February 21, 08:30:11am (NoHost/94.2.243.131)
Memories of Sunderland -- TSW, Friday, February 20, 05:29:38pm (NoHost/31.94.16.137)
Driving up early Sunday morning and staying over in Newcastle, first time up there in 24 years. Last time was a 0-3 with Hayles amongst the scorers
First time up there though was in 88 at Roker Park. Was living in Langley which is the London side of Slough for those who don't know. Saw train tickets advertised in the programme by Chris Topley. Was working for the family business at the time, asked the old man if I could go as we were pretty busy, he was reluctant at first but in the end being the good dad he was/is and a massive Fulham fan to boot, he let me on the one provision that I went to work the next day
Day of the game came around and got the green line to Butterwick then the tube to Kings Cross. It was a mild day in the first week of March. When I got to Kings Cross went to the pre arranged meeting spot in the station. Met Chris for the first time and he seemed a nice bloke. I didn't know anyone there and was a few months off my 18th birthday. There was probably around 20 of us, Chris got us all together and said he had a telephone call that morning from a friend or family member who lived up there,can't remember? That the weather in the North East was pretty bad, so he said he was going to call Sunderland to see if the game was in doubt. He came back about 10 mins later saying the weather indeed was pretty severe. Sunderland said there was a pitch inspection planned for the afternoon, the lady he spoke to up there said if pushed, she would say the game was unlikely to go ahead. So Chris said if anyone didn't fancy it they could drop out, a few did but I thought I'm going anyway, I'd never been up North before and I was looking forward to it
On the way got talking to a few, one lad was around my age and was from Bracknell where my cousin's lived so we had a bit of a conversation starter. His name was Andy. When we got to Newcastle, him and I went in the pub across the road from the station for a pint while we waited to see if the game was going ahead. As we were walking in a big row was going on between a bloke and his girlfriend which ended up with him dragging her caveman style out the door by her hair. Welcome to the North I thought. Got the nod that the game was on and jumped on the Metro, we got off at Seaburn which was deserted considering a game was on. Got split up from Andy and went early in the small pen of the open away end. There was hardly anyone in there as I found out later most Fulham fans went in the seats. Now when people say I'll remember it as long as I live, that was me with the cold, I've never ever been so frozen in my life. It was ridiculously cold with a frigid breeze coming in off the North Sea
The game started, we were pretty poor , I remember Marco Gabbiadini rifling one in to send their smallest crowd of the season wild. Was around 11,000 and most were on the Fulwell end. I remember Clive Walker bursting through and rattling the bar but in all honesty I wasn't that bothered, as all I wanted was the game to finish as quick as possible so I could get out of the cold
Lost 2-0 , on the way back we was on some kind of mail Train, it stopped everywhere and took hours to get to London. When we got in I had to wait for the tube to start running. Snoozed on a bench for about an hour, funny thing was getting back to London was like walking off a plane on to the tarmac in a warm country. The difference in temperature was massive. My shoulders and neck hurt as I spent the whole night hunched and shivering. Got a tube to Hounslow then jumped on the 81 back home. Fell asleep on that. Got home went to bed and hoped the old man would let me have the day off but alas no, he sent one of the lads around to pick me up at 10am so I had a few hours at least
Bit warmer this weekend thankfully and still see Andy occasionally at the Cottage

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- Went to the 4-1 Fa Cup win.Before the game played football with Sunderland fans.Welcomed into The Black Cat club.After the game different story. (NT) -- HemelRog, Friday, February 20, 06:02:59pm (host81-129-180-43.range81-129.btcentralplus.com/81.129.180.43)
- Thanks for that… enjoyed your reminiscing, reminded me of all the times I’ve been utterly miserable at a game at the Cottage. (NT) -- Straw Clutchers Anonymous, Friday, February 20, 06:08:28pm (NoHost/90.196.13.114)
  - Thanks mate, was in two minds about posting it thinking it might be a bit long. Seeing the post from that absolute bellend above I probably won't bother anymore (NT) -- TSW, Friday, February 20, 06:21:55pm (NoHost/31.94.16.136)
    - It summed up the bitter sweet memories of following this club. I remember one game me and a mate were so cold at the Cottage that we didn’t come out of the bar in the riverside stand after halftime, yet a week or two later we were back there suffering. Makes you realise how lucky we are now. Don’t let him put you off. (NT) -- SCA, Friday, February 20, 07:18:33pm (NoHost/90.196.13.114)
      - I've even seen a few comments from Northerners over the years of how cold Craven Cottage can get (NT) -- TSW, Friday, February 20, 07:34:52pm (NoHost/31.94.16.137)
- Went on holiday with Clive Walkers family in Majorca as was best mates with his son Ryan Walker at primary school in fulmer! (NT) -- Greenpole, Friday, February 20, 06:33:04pm (82-132-235-228.dab.02.net/82.132.235.228)
- Chris Topley , went on many of his Fulham trains , happy memories, rip Chris . (NT) -- Ian, Friday, February 20, 06:39:21pm (NoHost/90.206.40.11)
- Enjoyable post 👍 (NT) -- Samuel, Friday, February 20, 06:46:50pm (NoHost/83.106.75.64)
- Great post. Enjoyed it. The lengths we go to see Fulham away. I salute you sir! (NT) -- k, Friday, February 20, 06:50:07pm (NoHost/90.204.91.94)
- Drove up to that game from Norwich with a couple of mates up from London - Norwich was also deep in snow, and it was a nightmare drive, stopping off every now and then for a phone box. Things we did to get our Fulham fix in those days lol. Remember there being about 150 Fulham there, remember losing 2-0 and Gabbiadini scoring, and remember being in a chip shop near the ground. Also remember McMenemy had been desperate to get the game on as they were on a good run going for promotion (NT) -- Chesh, Friday, February 20, 06:53:26pm (cpc159755-haye26-2-0-cust179.17-4.cable.virginm.net/86.27.184.180)
- That's probably the most interesting post I've seen on here in ages. Thanks. (NT) -- Mr No Name, Friday, February 20, 08:28:35pm (host81-152-134-177.range81-152.btcentralplus.com/81.152.134.177)
- great post - more please (NT) -- ken, Friday, February 20, 08:50:47pm (host86-167-40-13.range86-167.btcentralplus.com/86.167.40.13)
- Love the post! (NT) -- eganonoa, Friday, February 20, 10:22:17pm (cable-146-255-156-96.dynamic.telemach.ba/146.255.156.96)
- Coldest that I have ever been was that Anglo Scottish cup final up at Ayresome Park, a Wednesday day night, absolutely bitter, watching the most boring Jack Charlton team, beat us 1-0.. 2 Cup finals lost within 7 months or so. Frozen rigid -- Glide, Friday, February 20, 11:07:51pm (NoHost/194.34.235.171)
- Memory a little vague,was it Sunderland we had in the FA Cup probably in the 60s that got cancelled 2 or 3 Times due to the weather? (NT) -- Mrmicawber, Saturday, February 21, 04:50:15am (NoHost/85.255.235.82)
  - Think it was Sheffield United cancelled twice.They were singing the Fulham fans ae skint at us. (NT) -- HemelRog, Saturday, February 21, 08:26:09am (host81-129-180-43.range81-129.btcentralplus.com/81.129.180.43)
    - Needless to say we then lost 3-1.Hate that word Fulhamish. (NT) -- HemelRog, Saturday, February 21, 11:24:35am (host81-129-180-43.range81-129.btcentralplus.com/81.129.180.43)
      - Cheers Hemel, yes now you say it of course. Inseem to recall we had a big following going to the game originally, when the Fa Cup meant something. Mind you still lo e to win it in my lifetime. Sooner rather than later. (NT) -- Mrmicawber, Saturday, February 21, 02:02:54pm (NoHost/85.255.235.78)
        
        Yep 77 and a few health issues.They might need to hurry up. (NT) -- HemelRog, Saturday, February 21, 02:34:07pm (host81-129-180-43.range81-129.btcentralplus.com/81.129.180.43)
- What a great post thank you...never went to Roker which i bitterly regret...My brothers went to a 2-2 midweek League Cup draw up there and nevwr fail to remnd me...been to the S.O.L on many occasions..friendliest fans and live for their club...be back in the Deaf Club tomorrow...coyw (NT) -- Barney Travers, Saturday, February 21, 07:31:17am (NoHost/90.196.59.254)
- Re: Memories of Sunderland -- Slimtim, Saturday, February 21, 07:44:50am (92.40.168.154.threembb.co.uk/92.40.168.154)
- February 1975 , went to Roker on the overnight TBT , we won 2-1 , 2-2 draw ? When was that ? (NT) -- Ian, Saturday, February 21, 08:09:45am (NoHost/90.206.40.11)
- great post we need more of this sort of thing (NT) -- fulhamoldfart, Saturday, February 21, 09:29:36am (cpc160099-nmal26-2-0-cust468.19-2.cable.virginm.net/82.18.161.213)
- To correct the league cup result was 1-1 in 89..had i been there wouldnt have made such an error! (NT) -- Barney Travers, Saturday, February 21, 10:38:13am (NoHost/90.196.59.254)
- As the OP well bears out, what sticks in memory may not be the football. Although at Roker for that shock cup win, what lingers more is decades later when I timed a drive back from Scotland to catch us at SOL. Having parked in the suburb of Hendon, I saw an estate agent was advertising semis dead ringers for ones in Cheam, Perivale or the Hendon of my youth. However, at only a quarter of the price. Provoked thought, that did, as football travels can do sometimes -- compensation during nil-nils. (NT) -- b+w g., Saturday, February 21, 04:06:17pm (host81-159-15-87.range81-159.btcentralplus.com/81.159.15.87)
  - We once considered buying a house in Oldham between us as we spelt so much time their.It was our base for northern weekends away.It was virtually only a few thousand. (NT) -- HemelRog, Saturday, February 21, 04:28:29pm (host81-129-180-43.range81-129.btcentralplus.com/81.129.180.43)
- Re:Wed 26 /8/75 was my solitary visit to Roker; amazingly close to the sea. Was staying with a Fulhamite who still lives in Newcastle,near Shearer.We were promo favourites after reaching Wembley 3 months earlier.Lost 2-0. Mel Holden, signed from PNE,scored his 1st goal for 'em. He sadly died of motor neurone disease just 6 years later, aged 26. (NT) -- garence, Saturday, February 21, 09:35:36pm (82-71-33-251.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/82.71.33.251)
- Memories of Sunderland - Brendan Mullen (NT) -- Juan, Sunday, February 22, 12:10:30pm (NoHost/176.255.33.120)
  - Really strange result and even stranger prime cause. Debutant who barely featured again. (NT) -- b+w g., Monday, February 23, 08:30:26pm (host81-159-15-87.range81-159.btcentralplus.com/81.159.15.87)
No team relegated with more than 30 points after 26 matches -- eganonoa, Friday, February 20, 04:33:42pm (NoHost/195.222.49.31)
In the discussion below about whether it is even worth considering that we could be relegated this season, Bexhill Beast asks whether any club has ever been relegated having been in the same position as we currently are in. The answer is NO. Below are all the teams in the 20-team era who have been relegated in 18th place with 34 points or more and the points that they had after 26 matches taken from here: www.sqaf.club/premier-league-relegation-points/. The closest to us are Ipswich in 2001/02 and Birmingham in 2010/11 who each had 30 points after 26 matches.

* West Ham, relegated in 02/03 with 42 points, had just 23 points after 26 games.
* Relegated with 40 points you have Sunderland in 96/97 (29 points after 26 games) and Bolton in 97/98 (24 points after 26).
* Birmingham were relegated in 10/11 with 39 points and had 30 after 26.
* Sheffield United were relegated in 06/07 with 38 points and had 27 points after 26
* Newcastle were relegated in 15/16 with 37 points and had 24 points after 26.
* On 36 points you have Reading in 07/08 (22 points after 26); Bolton 11/12 (20 points after 26); Wigan 12/13 (21 points after 26); Ipswich in 01/02 (30 points after 26)
* On 35 points you have Charlton (26 points after 26) Hull in 14/15 (26 points after 26); Burnley in 21/22 (21 points after 26)
* On 34 points you have Man City in 00/01 (23 after 26); Birmingham in 05/06 (23 after 26); Newcastle (28 after 26); Hull in 16/17 (21 after 26); Cardiff in 19/20 (25 after 26); and Leicester in 22/23 (24 after 26)

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- In other words, if any club above Leeds were to be relegated it would be a first in the 20-team Premier League era. And only two teams have ever been relegated while in Leeds' current position, and only three in Spurs' current position. (NT) -- eganonoa, Friday, February 20, 04:44:23pm (NoHost/195.222.49.31)
- Interesting facts. I guess it can depend on this season on how many times, say, West Ham, Spurs, Notts Forest, and Leeds play each other? Thus, taking potential points off each other. (NT) -- CB, Friday, February 20, 04:45:37pm (213-18-171-225.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.171.225)
  - I can only see Spurs v Notts Forest on 22 March. Which gives them more opportunity to gain points against others? (NT) -- CB, Friday, February 20, 05:00:22pm (213-18-171-225.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.171.225)
    - ... and ironically, we play 3 of them. So we will have quite a say in the outcome. (NT) -- CB, Friday, February 20, 05:06:23pm (213-18-171-225.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.171.225)
  - West Ham v Leeds (last match of season), Spurs v Forest, Spurs v Leeds (NT) -- Club Stooge, Saturday, February 21, 10:01:42am (host81-152-41-25.range81-152.btcentralplus.com/81.152.41.25)
- I knew we weren't getting relegated after we beat Brentford back in September. NO team has been relegated from the Premier League after getting 8 points from their first five matches... (NT) -- Statto, Friday, February 20, 05:02:51pm (NoHost/90.204.91.94)
  - Stats mean nothing as they all get beaten at some time. (NT) -- Just saying, Friday, February 20, 05:07:10pm (NoHost/78.111.194.83)
- Well done for taking up the challenge I was too lazy to attempt. (NT) -- Bexhill Beast, Friday, February 20, 05:17:10pm (host86-142-67-240.range86-142.btcentralplus.com/86.142.67.240)
- All reassuring but if West Ham do as well in their remaining games as they did in 02/03 they'll reach 43 points. We should better that but I'd not bet my house on it. A dozen clubs are in danger if West Ham go on a really good run. (NT) -- The Man With No Name, Friday, February 20, 05:30:45pm (host81-141-119-135.range81-141.btcentralplus.com/81.141.119.135)
  - They are already on a good run. (NT) -- GA, Friday, February 20, 06:55:53pm (ool-18b90125.dyn.optonline.net/24.185.1.37)
  - It doesn't matter a bit how well 1 of the strugglers do, the point is they ALL have to go on really good runs and we have to have a really (continued) poor run for us to have any problem. (NT) -- Not gonna happen!, Friday, February 20, 07:52:35pm (NoHost/81.92.202.109)
  - They could very well could go on such a run, but then Forest or Spurs or Leeds will go down. There are enough seasons gone to be comfortable in the knowledge that it is extremely unlikely that anyone but them will go down. There are many things I wouldn't bet my house on. I wouldn't bet my house that I won't he involved in a plane crash. But that doesn't make it any more likely that it would happen. (NT) -- eganonoa, Friday, February 20, 10:16:40pm (NoHost/172.59.190.116)
    - Likely and possible are not the same thing. It may not be likely that West Ham, Forest, Leeds and Spurs all go on good runs but they each look good enough to do so. We need a maximum of three wins to be safe - 12 games to go - easy - but a different story if we still need them with 7 or 8 games to go. (NT) -- The Man With No Name, Friday, February 20, 10:37:48pm (host81-141-119-135.range81-141.btcentralplus.com/81.141.119.135)
      - Everything is possible until it is mathematically impossible. It's mathematically possible that West Ham could end on 60 points. Meaning it's mathematically possible that they could finish above Arsenal. At some point talking about what's "possible" is just as pointless as it would be talking about something that's impossible. This is one of those situations. (NT) -- eganonoa, Friday, February 20, 10:49:17pm (cable-146-255-156-96.dynamic.telemach.ba/146.255.156.96)
        
        My God, are you C(omplete) B(edwetter) in disguise? (NT) -- Get a fucking grip, for fucks sake!, Friday, February 20, 11:13:52pm (NoHost/89.47.62.89)
        
        Oops meant for No-Name, not stat-Twat! (NT) -- So many morons on here!, Friday, February 20, 11:17:58pm (NoHost/89.47.62.89)
        
        So why add another? Taking a deep breath - I really don't think we'll be relegated because we're too good. However one undeserving club is going down and it may take 42 points or so to stay up. For us 3 wins so no problem you'd think but things will look very different if we lose our next few games. Which we might. (NT) -- The Man With No Name, Saturday, February 21, 08:35:57am (host81-141-119-135.range81-141.btcentralplus.com/81.141.119.135)
No Chuk on Sunday. -- What a bummer., Friday, February 20, 04:30:17pm (NoHost/213.207.132.10)
Light calf-strain picked up against City.

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- Oscar to do his thing. (NT) -- GA, Friday, February 20, 05:25:21pm (ool-18b90125.dyn.optonline.net/24.185.1.37)
- Bobb or Harry, sorted. Kevin on the left. (NT) -- Al, Friday, February 20, 05:26:57pm (cust-51.179.206.203.cgn.as5482.net/51.179.206.203)
- He picked up an injury just as Silva was making his substitutions? Really? (NT) -- Cutler 22, Friday, February 20, 06:01:09pm (customer.sfiabgr1.isp.starlink.com/150.228.61.19)
  - Maybe that's why he was subbed? (NT) -- Just a thought., Friday, February 20, 07:57:36pm (NoHost/81.92.202.109)
- He would definitely be good to watch played with a Muniz on top form . Perhaps that’s why MS won’t want to play them together . (NT) -- alanos, Friday, February 20, 10:50:36pm (82-132-214-158.dab.02.net/82.132.214.158)
Coming up from the Championship -- Jungle J, Thursday, February 19, 02:18:08pm (cpc124440-croy27-2-0-cust52.19-2.cable.virginm.net/77.101.86.53)
On the flip side to the thread below, who do we like coming up from the Championship next season?

Currently the top 6 are Coventry, Middlesbrough, Millwall, Ipswich, Hull, and Derby. Ipswich are 6 behind Coventry, 5 behind Boro but have 2 games in hand. The top 2 and Ipswich are the only teams in whole division to have a goal difference better than +8!

Derby (I assume we don't want them to come up) are on 48 points and the 16th place team (Swansea) are on 42, so there is a massive mushy middle - with huge potential for chaos in the playoffs.

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- Millwall ( proper fans ) , Ipswich and for personal reasons Hull. (NT) -- Mickey, Thursday, February 19, 02:29:55pm (82-132-214-182.dab.02.net/82.132.214.182)
  - If Millwall managed it ...hmm. We're decades on from 'Long Good Friday,' Bermondsey is now des res... A distinctly nouveau following might accrue. (Maybe already is. Not been there for a good while). (NT) -- b+w g., Thursday, February 19, 04:58:54pm (host81-159-15-87.range81-159.btcentralplus.com/81.159.15.87)
- In the big mush I'm hoping for one of Birmingham (so Stansfield gets a go in the Premier League and we can see whether he's truly up to it) or QPR (I know ... but I'd love more West London derbies) to make it up. Not fussed about the current top six. With a gun to my head, I'd choose Coventry (proper 90s throwback) and Ipswich (no problem with them). I'm desperately hoping Wrexham don't make it up as I don't think I could handle all the American/Hollywood noise around it. (NT) -- eganonoa, Thursday, February 19, 03:01:18pm (NoHost/195.222.49.31)
  - I have Ipswich for the title but if they stayed down I wouldn’t mind their boss if MS left… (NT) -- woodman, Thursday, February 19, 03:08:25pm (NoHost/46.31.84.144)
  - On the contrary, would be delighted to see Wrexham promoted - would be a phenomenal achievement for Phil Parkinson, which may never be matched. Non-league to Premier League with same manager. Astonishing. Micky Adams must be green with envy as to what might have been at FFC.... (NT) -- k, Thursday, February 19, 03:09:48pm (NoHost/90.204.91.94)
    - Take out what is quite possibly the most obnoxious of Hollywood stars (Ryan Reynolds; the other guy I don't really have an opinion on) and I would be right there with you. But the Hollywood noise will absolutely drown out Parkinson's achievement and it'll be utterly insufferable I reckon. (NT) -- eganonoa, Thursday, February 19, 03:15:08pm (NoHost/195.222.49.31)
      - Based on what he seems to do a lot for charity?Unless you think it is virtue signaling. (NT) -- HemelRog, Saturday, February 21, 11:37:14am (host81-129-180-43.range81-129.btcentralplus.com/81.129.180.43)
  - Think Coventry fans are just about the scummiest around bit of a nothing club for me. Would prefer it to be ipswich along with wrexham for a new ground. (NT) -- Jim© The Devon IP, Thursday, February 19, 03:14:45pm (62-64-192-58.virtual1.co.uk/62.64.192.58)
    - I think us not playing them for so long has blinded a lot of people as to what shitbags a lot of their support are. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Thursday, February 19, 03:52:10pm (85-115-49-2.mailcontrol.com/85.115.49.2)
- Brizzle City & Southampton still in the top six mix. Both good away days. (NT) -- Bad Boy, Thursday, February 19, 03:36:16pm (NoHost/2.216.105.96)
- For me, Millwall and Middlesbrough automatic, then Bristol City in the play offs. Have been to every ground in the top 16. My son, currently hoovering up grounds would prefer the top two as is, then Millwall or Derby in the playoffs (he's been to Ipswich and Hull) (NT) -- Same Old Story, Thursday, February 19, 03:54:30pm (85-115-49-2.mailcontrol.com/85.115.49.2)
  - Ah, Bristol would be by far the closest ground to me so a yes to that one. Also think they're the largest city in the country to have not had a premier team (NT) -- Jim© The Devon IP, Thursday, February 19, 04:12:31pm (62-64-192-58.virtual1.co.uk/62.64.192.58)
    - Yes, their brief time at the top was pre-Prem, so Bristol is overdue and Rovers won't be obliging, ever probably (unfortunately). (NT) -- b+w g., Thursday, February 19, 05:16:50pm (host81-159-15-87.range81-159.btcentralplus.com/81.159.15.87)
    - You’d remember Bristol Rovers ages ago……torrential rain and not even a roof over over our heads (NT) -- Bad Boy, Thursday, February 19, 05:18:04pm (NoHost/2.216.105.96)
      - Good bunch of supporters The Gas (NT) -- Al, Thursday, February 19, 05:40:03pm (cust-51.179.206.203.cgn.as5482.net/51.179.206.203)
        
        In my experience horrible fcukers. (NT) -- HemelRog, Thursday, February 19, 05:58:45pm (host81-129-180-43.range81-129.btcentralplus.com/81.129.180.43)
        
        As the recipient of a sharpened coin on the bonce at Eastville, have to second that. (NT) -- Bexhill Beast, Thursday, February 19, 06:36:23pm (host86-142-67-240.range86-142.btcentralplus.com/86.142.67.240)
        
        Exactly the same happened to me. I like BR as a club for some reason though. (NT) -- Hammersmithender, Friday, February 20, 09:29:14am (NoHost/31.94.74.142)
        
        Seriously??? Some of the nastiest fans I have ever met! (NT) -- GTS, Thursday, February 19, 07:17:07pm (NoHost/94.14.186.219)
        
        Double truths above.... Gas punch above their weight as a fanbase, including literally! (NT) -- b+w g., Thursday, February 19, 07:24:23pm (host81-159-15-87.range81-159.btcentralplus.com/81.159.15.87)
      - There was one horrendously wet day there - the Philippe Albert game perhaps and Barry Hayles against us, or non-scoring for us. In spite of the weather, one of our number shirtless, back to the game, every bit a match for the Toon & Pompey bretheren of similar inclination. (NT) -- Barry@ENF, Thursday, February 19, 06:29:55pm (2e400676.skybroadband.com/46.64.6.118)
        
        We actually had two 3-2 wins there in successive years in horrendous conditions. The first was under wilkins who got absolute dogs abuse from our fans all game, rob scott getting a late winner. The following year was even wetter. Hayles had signed for us by then, and i think albert had just joined us (NT) -- Same old story, Thursday, February 19, 06:58:03pm (NoHost/181.214.131.55)
        
        Must be that second game I'm thinking about. I'm pretty sure Barry did not score and, more vaguely recalled, maybe Albert went off injured. (NT) -- Barry@ENF, Thursday, February 19, 07:08:40pm (2e400676.skybroadband.com/46.64.6.118)
        
        Didn't Paul Trollope score, Wendy Toms running the line, horrible wet Friday night. (NT) -- GTS, Thursday, February 19, 08:10:53pm (NoHost/109.144.20.25)
        
        Paul trollope scored in the second one, yes, as well as horsfield and symons. First one was carpenter and two from scott (NT) -- Same old story, Friday, February 20, 07:30:14am (NoHost/181.214.131.53)
        
        Went to both of those. Stayed overnight for the Friday night game in March 1999. Back at the hotel, and worked out actually soaked to the skin. Change of clothes and left stuff drying on radiators in hotel room before a sesh in hotel bar 🤪 (NT) -- Beano Reader, Thursday, February 19, 09:06:11pm (host-92-19-68-124.as13285.net/92.19.68.124)
        Remember that game where we were in a weird little trace to the side of their main stand. Wilkins was also really close to us and the abuse, took it pretty well! (NT) -- Jim©, Thursday, February 19, 09:12:28pm (host109-159-89-233.range109-159.btcentralplus.com/109.159.89.233)
      - Re: You’d remember Bristol Rovers ages ago……torrential rain and not even a roof over over our heads -- Mrmicawber, Friday, February 20, 02:36:02am (NoHost/148.252.144.122)
      - Got absolutely drenched,drove home in our pants. -- Mrmicawber, Friday, February 20, 02:43:42am (NoHost/148.252.144.122)
- Have always rated Struber at Bristol City, think they will be close. Ipswich should get top 2 (NT) -- Waterboy, Friday, February 20, 12:11:54am (NoHost/84.65.31.238)
- Probably Boro,Coventry(Hope not) and hard to call.Would like Ipswich,Watford and QPR(It’s happening again and anyway we need he eggs). (NT) -- HemelRog, Friday, February 20, 10:10:45am (host81-129-180-43.range81-129.btcentralplus.com/81.129.180.43)
- I'd like to see Ipswich and Millwall come up. Used to love the former in the early 80s, I could probably name their starting XI. Millwall are a proper club - never had a problem with them and would be a mightry achievement should they make it. It would be funny if Fat Frank didnt make it. I'd like to send him and Arteta some apple crumble. With custard (NT) -- Fkev, Friday, February 20, 10:15:52am (NoHost/57.133.213.87)
- Surely we want the most entertaining teams to come up, not just the rubbish ones so we are virtually guaranteed another season in the Prem (NT) -- Crafty Cottager, Friday, February 20, 01:35:00pm (NoHost/31.94.60.7)
  - Sorry no. Admirable sentiment, but I'd take 18 points and one-way traffic for Fulham. Entertainment is mostly for the neutrals. Truth is first priority for us is staying in the Prem. (NT) -- CB, Friday, February 20, 04:36:24pm (213-18-171-225.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.171.225)
Is there a worst kick off time ? -- F@@k The Fans, Thursday, February 19, 01:46:39pm (NoHost/85.255.237.183)
12pm Sunday 8th March v Southampton !

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- Sunday morning football time. (NT) -- CB, Thursday, February 19, 01:50:45pm (213-18-171-225.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.171.225)
- Morning ? 12pm is the afternoon ! (NT) -- Knowall, Thursday, February 19, 02:15:12pm (NoHost/90.206.40.11)
  - Oh dear. (NT) -- CB, Thursday, February 19, 02:20:53pm (213-18-171-225.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.171.225)
- I reckon the worst time is 8pm on a Sunday! It just does not feel right! (NT) -- Ted White, Thursday, February 19, 04:54:07pm (NoHost/45.80.184.163)
  - Two teams from SW6 at Villa Park.Bizzare. (NT) -- HemelRog, Friday, February 20, 10:13:25am (host81-129-180-43.range81-129.btcentralplus.com/81.129.180.43)
    - That was fayeds fault (NT) -- Same old story, Friday, February 20, 01:19:53pm (NoHost/181.214.131.53)
      - I thought possibly couldn’t be changes at short notice.Why would Fayed want it at VP? (NT) -- HemelRog, Friday, February 20, 01:47:59pm (host81-129-180-43.range81-129.btcentralplus.com/81.129.180.43)
        
        It was meant to be played at highbury but the ticket allocation was too low for fayed so they moved it to villa park and then neither side sold out up there. (NT) -- Same old story, Friday, February 20, 03:10:06pm (NoHost/181.214.131.53)
        
        Yep thanks.Most of the family went by car but Godfrey(Greg) and I had to travel home with a trainload of Knuckledraggers.Perfect ending to a shite day. (NT) -- HemelRog, Friday, February 20, 04:25:24pm (NoHost/31.94.12.96)
- more like those crying who cant cope without getting cut first (NT) -- me, Friday, February 20, 06:37:57pm (host86-151-207-147.range86-151.btcentralplus.com/86.151.207.147)
Southampton game -- Kenny, Thursday, February 19, 01:45:33pm (NoHost/2.219.214.99)
12pm on the Sunday.

Not the best kick off time for crowd or atmosphere.
Hope tickets are priced sensibly and we can get a good crowd in.

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Who for the drop? -- eganonoa, Thursday, February 19, 12:20:19pm (NoHost/195.222.49.31)
As it looks like a three-horse race for the last relegation spot, who would you want for the drop: West Ham, Spurs, or Forest?

In the ordinary course of things, I'd be choosing between the Hammers and Spurs. But I've got to go with Forest here. I quite fancy quite a lot of those Forest players. And the Nuno redemption arc would be just too sweet!

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- Spurs. No brainer. Intrigued why you like a 'lot' of a team that are evidently not good enough for the Premier League... (NT) -- G, Thursday, February 19, 12:30:45pm (NoHost/90.204.91.94)
  - Because I think we've seen in our own experience that really good collections of individual players can get relegated amid poor management and organizational chaos above them. There are so many good players in that team that would be great for us. (NT) -- eganonoa, Thursday, February 19, 12:39:33pm (NoHost/195.222.49.31)
- Out of the three you've chosen, Spurs, West Ham, Forest in that order. I'm thinking long term, the former 2 will be bigger obstacles to overcome than Forest, who i believe will be downed by Marinakis insanity at some point. Their time will come. However, i think it goes all the way up to Brighton, and i have a sneaky suspicion Palace might be the big shock who end up going. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Thursday, February 19, 12:31:17pm (85-115-49-2.mailcontrol.com/85.115.49.2)
  - Definitely long-term I agree with you. And if it weren't for Nuno at West Ham, that's the order I would have it. But I'm a sucker for a comedy narrative like that. (NT) -- eganonoa, Thursday, February 19, 12:43:40pm (NoHost/195.222.49.31)
- Wolves and Burnley to go on ridiculous runs and all three to go please.Three of the most deluded fanbase she on planet Earth. (NT) -- HemelRog, Thursday, February 19, 12:36:59pm (host81-129-180-43.range81-129.btcentralplus.com/81.129.180.43)
  - That indeed would be the absolute dream. (NT) -- eganonoa, Thursday, February 19, 12:40:21pm (NoHost/195.222.49.31)
  - Don't mind wolves, but i'd be happy if Burnley didn't score another goal all season. I just cannot stand Parker. How's he still got a job, btw? (NT) -- Same Old Story, Thursday, February 19, 12:57:59pm (85-115-49-2.mailcontrol.com/85.115.49.2)
    - Biggest conman in football. It’s astonishing. My only theory is he sucks the life out of the owner and their hopes and dreams as much as he does to the players and supporters so they are stuck in some sort of depressive trance that can help but watch the slow motion car crash that is ‘football’ under the grifter. (NT) -- FF, Thursday, February 19, 01:46:39pm (NoHost/161.30.201.48)
    - I understand people don’t like Burnley or Parker.Nope sure anybody could have kept them up though..Can only think of four premier clubs I don’t dislike.CP,Brighton,Bournemouth and Sunderland. (NT) -- HemelRog, Thursday, February 19, 03:05:57pm (NoHost/31.94.14.144)
- Spurs every time ; they’ve taken enough Players off us over the years . Never will be forgiven for that last min raid on Dembele and Dempsey!🤬 (NT) -- Mickey, Thursday, February 19, 12:59:24pm (82-132-218-85.dab.02.net/82.132.218.85)
- W Ham as I have a bet each season with brother in law about who will finish higher. But I also dislike Spurs. Wolves I still dislike because Kevin Muscat played there and I couldn't stand the bloke. (NT) -- Jim© The Devon IP, Thursday, February 19, 01:26:45pm (62-64-192-58.virtual1.co.uk/62.64.192.58)
- Any of those three going down will be brilliant. Really dislike the fanbases of Forest and West Ham though. I guess Spurs going down would be the funniest. (NT) -- Dom(TO), Thursday, February 19, 01:31:15pm (NoHost/83.105.153.188)
- Spurs, with Arsenal and Liverpool to join them in the Championship next year (NT) -- We can but dream in Block E, Thursday, February 19, 01:32:09pm (host86-178-193-240.range86-178.btcentralplus.com/86.178.193.240)
- It's a genuinely tough question. It would be sweet to see the humbling of Spurs fans who are insufferable (I feel the same about Everton). West Ham maybe not insufferable but thoroughly unlikeable. I agree with SOS that Forest's time will come but after all the Marinakis love on here (you know who you are) it would be hilarious if it was them. But overall I guess I have to pick Spurs (it won't be them) (NT) -- Jungle J, Thursday, February 19, 01:40:48pm (cpc124440-croy27-2-0-cust52.19-2.cable.virginm.net/77.101.86.53)
- West Ham. But rotten for Santo who deserves better. I'm basically reuctant to be too complacent. The weekends results could be more important than we think. (NT) -- CB, Thursday, February 19, 01:45:27pm (213-18-171-225.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.171.225)
- After this weekend lets get past the next 4 games without any defeats before we get too complacent! (NT) -- The Drobe, Thursday, February 19, 02:56:02pm (host109-152-222-114.range109-152.btcentralplus.com/109.152.222.114)
  - People have scoffed, and it would take a pretty serious collapse, but i do think its possible you might need 40-42 points this season. I think if (for instance) we lost the next 4 we could be bang in it. Equally we could win all 4 and be well set for europe. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Thursday, February 19, 03:56:20pm (85-115-49-2.mailcontrol.com/85.115.49.2)
    - Which is more likely? I'm surprised that many folks are so confident with 12 games to go. 18th will be possibly the highest points ever? (NT) -- CB, Thursday, February 19, 04:13:13pm (213-18-171-225.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.171.225)
      - Lump on.Would be pretty amazed but I suppose stranger things have happened. (NT) -- HemelRog, Thursday, February 19, 06:04:01pm (host81-129-180-43.range81-129.btcentralplus.com/81.129.180.43)
        
        As the current 10th favourites for the drop with the bookies (around 100-1), i find the chat about relegation really bizarre. Probably one win away (v w ham) from staying up with 12 games to go. (NT) -- Jim© The Devon IP, Friday, February 20, 09:29:57am (62-64-192-58.virtual1.co.uk/62.64.192.58)
        
        Me too. As the Rog says, and indeed those odds, it's not mathematically impossible, so anything could happen. But this it is so far out in the realm of possibility that I'm surprised by the amount of discussion on it. (NT) -- eganonoa, Friday, February 20, 09:46:09am (NoHost/195.222.49.31)
        
        Would be interesting to know how many clubs in our current position have been relegated. I suspect the answer would be very few if any. (NT) -- Bexhill Beast, Friday, February 20, 11:31:14am (host86-142-67-240.range86-142.btcentralplus.com/86.142.67.240)
- 3 down there now have looked doomed for a while (NT) -- Waterboy, Friday, February 20, 12:13:21am (NoHost/84.65.31.238)
Sunderland | Insane Safety Protocols -- MF, Thursday, February 19, 10:38:42am (NoHost/212.103.232.179)
<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="https://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2026/february/18/sunderlands-advanced-search-policy/">https://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2026/february/18/sunderlands-advanced-search-policy/</a>

In addition to no bags larger than A4 allowed, the following items cannot be brought into the stadium:
- Coins

All coins collected will be donated to charity following the fixture.

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Am I right in thinking this means stewards will expect to go through everyone's wallet and confiscate their coins? Seems like a wind-up.

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- not wooried about coins ASS dont carry them (card/contlassless)... but its the umbrella and powerback thing that makes less less in RAINY modern tech heavily use 2026... So.. they will bee expecting us to go in ponchos? and not bring powerbank for a LONG away trip?... DO we hope them bus/trains up NORTH have charging (that working)ports> and we just bring A cable? (NT) -- govn bands disposal vapes YET!?, Thursday, February 19, 11:02:32am (ns5000062.ip-51-161-87.net/51.161.87.144)
  - Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha, as if you even go to a game (NT) -- You're always on here. Retard, Thursday, February 19, 02:52:48pm (92.40.212.37.threembb.co.uk/92.40.212.37)
- This was, according to a sunderland fan i know, brought in because apparently coventry fans were chucking coins at sunderland fans in the tier below them all game. So, as often happens, one group of scumbag fans ruin it for everyone else. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Thursday, February 19, 12:16:46pm (85-115-49-2.mailcontrol.com/85.115.49.2)
- Powebanks rule is crazy. If all games are switching to digital ticketing next season how does this make sense? I can't even make it to a home game without needing to give my phone a boost. (NT) -- The Enclosurite, Thursday, February 19, 01:27:56pm (33bedade.skybroadband.com/51.190.218.222)
Arteta could be out of Arsenal end of season -- Alex, Thursday, February 19, 08:34:19am (NoHost/109.78.189.225)
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Kasper Høgh scored for bodo glimt again, vs inter -- worth a look, Wednesday, February 18, 09:28:33pm (host31-50-73-241.range31-50.btcentralplus.com/31.50.73.241)
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Tonight -- Kimberly-Clark, Wednesday, February 18, 08:08:06pm (host-2-102-164-149.as13285.net/2.102.164.149)
Andre watch. Pretty sure we will be back in for him in the Summer.

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- Why? (NT) -- GA, Wednesday, February 18, 08:18:27pm (ool-18b90125.dyn.optonline.net/24.185.1.37)
  - Exactly, we were never in for him in the first place. All Brazilian press rumours. (NT) -- K, Wednesday, February 18, 08:26:07pm (NoHost/78.111.194.83)
- Re: Tonight (NT) -- The Brazilian/ Portuguese Connection., Wednesday, February 18, 08:26:42pm (host-2-102-164-149.as13285.net/2.102.164.149)
- Re: Tonight (NT) -- Baller, Wednesday, February 18, 08:28:12pm (host-2-102-164-149.as13285.net/2.102.164.149)
- Re: Tonight -- Hodds, Thursday, February 19, 09:33:38am (82-132-214-132.dab.02.net/82.132.214.132)
Really interesting article about SCR on Fulhamish which has me seeing transfers in a different light. -- Fulham Si, Wednesday, February 18, 11:39:56am (NoHost/148.252.144.219)
Of course we buying low and selling high when it comes to transfers is the dream scenario but there’s another angle to transfers that I hadn’t considered but makes so much sense. We are clearly targeting younger players around the £30 - £40m mark which I was excited about but couldn’t see us necessarily selling for profit later down the road. However it’s still very good business if we can sell a player after 3-3.5 years into a 5 year contract for the same money that we paid. It basically means in asset terms (not wages) we’ve had the use of those assets for free, imagine if you could buy a valuable and expensive car, use it for 3 years and get all your asset expenditure back we’d all be happy. If the players we get in are good players as a high price for a younger player would dictate then we improve our squad for just the wage bill alone. It certainly beats getting older players on a free but on high wages with no sell on potential. It really doesn’t have to be about making a profit on these players although that would be better still.

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- If clubs have to sell to become compliant and clubs can't buy unless they sell then you could reach a stalemate where there are no buyers. Could kill the transfer market and oblige clubs to only offer pay deals that meets their income. Good thing or bad? A few years of this and there will be a major change. (NT) -- The Man With No Name, Wednesday, February 18, 12:18:06pm (host81-141-119-135.range81-141.btcentralplus.com/81.141.119.135)
  - Bosmans becoming the norm with only affordable contracts being offered to those now out of contract players. Given time and a lot of pain and we might reach an economically sensible system. (NT) -- The Man With No Name, Wednesday, February 18, 12:23:24pm (host81-141-119-135.range81-141.btcentralplus.com/81.141.119.135)
    - I would've thought these rules would make Bosman's much less attractive. Signing-on fees, long contracts at extremely high wages, and no chance of resale sound like the absolute worst thing for SCR. (NT) -- eganonoa, Wednesday, February 18, 12:59:18pm (NoHost/195.222.49.31)
      - If you can't sell (because no one can buy) then players have to see out their contracts. As free agents they'll be looking for jobs in a market that can't pay what they used to expect. It would be a collapse into the real world where employers can only pay what they can afford. Or, of course, the clubs will vote to relax or abolish the restrictions. (NT) -- The Man With No Name, Wednesday, February 18, 02:21:58pm (host81-141-119-135.range81-141.btcentralplus.com/81.141.119.135)
- Found it really interesting and kind of confirmed what I'd been thinking (about the turnaround in type of player in). Also interesting re Chuk and why we shouldn't buy him from a PSR perspective. If we can keep a few good youngsters coming through then it'll all work out fine. With PSR also makes more sense to take on a Kusu Asare type player and hope it works out. (NT) -- Jim© The Devon IP, Wednesday, February 18, 12:41:05pm (62-64-192-58.virtual1.co.uk/62.64.192.58)
- Interesting piece and discussion. On the revenue side, it would be unfortunate if FFC were unable to count Fulham Pier and the club/hotel (except on matchdays), but if such revenue in general is discounted, then the hit will be greater for many other clubs. Therefore suspect it won't be. (NT) -- b+w g., Wednesday, February 18, 04:03:56pm (host81-159-15-87.range81-159.btcentralplus.com/81.159.15.87)
  - Have been informed that the FST has asked the club for clarification on whether the Fulham Pier profits will count for SCR purposes. Who knows when club will respond (NT) -- f bloke, Wednesday, February 18, 06:29:48pm (NoHost/2.223.121.65)
- SCR - Just keeps the big teams at the top. They missed an opportunity to make the playing field level (NT) -- tc, Friday, February 20, 12:17:48pm (cpc113808-lea23-2-0-cust136.6-3.cable.virginm.net/86.26.148.137)
Sunderland tix -- CHB, Tuesday, February 17, 09:14:31pm (103.91.196.24.host.zylex.nz/103.91.196.24)
Anybody received theirs yet, or are they digital?

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- Re: Sunderland tix (NT) -- Train cancellations for Sunderland Sunday., Tuesday, February 17, 10:03:36pm (host-2-102-164-149.as13285.net/2.102.164.149)
What’s the song being played on Full Access -- Agincourt, Tuesday, February 17, 06:20:02pm (NoHost/45.148.12.145)
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- Walking Around by Eldar Kedem (NT) -- flum, Tuesday, February 17, 06:23:08pm (NoHost/86.62.30.238)
Darwin Nunez -- Curious G, Tuesday, February 17, 12:22:19pm (NoHost/64.43.150.201)
Fallen out of favour in Arabia? Can we show some ambition?

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- I think we could definitely do with his ability and tenacity on the pitch, but there does appear to be a disruptive element to his nature. Not sure he's the right personality to feature in this Fulham team, which has a sense of unity at its core. We so desperately need a new striker though. (NT) -- Samuel, Tuesday, February 17, 03:11:38pm (NoHost/83.106.75.64)
  - Ability and Nunez are two words that don't exist in the same sentence. I'd say Vinicius had more ability than him. 7 goals in 47 games last season, in a team that created chance after chance after chance. (NT) -- Jim© The Devon IP, Tuesday, February 17, 03:45:50pm (62-64-192-58.virtual1.co.uk/62.64.192.58)
  - Still no response to my question from last Thursday about Muniz' "purple patch(es)". Why should anyone EVER take you seriously? (NT) -- You are, quite simply, full of it!, Tuesday, February 17, 07:08:36pm (customer.vpls.net/107.6.254.54)
  - C'mon you MUPPET! Answer my question! Fan of 4 decades my backside! (NT) -- You are a pathetic no-mark!, Tuesday, February 17, 08:43:49pm (customer.vpls.net/107.6.254.138)
    - He is part of the 4 ( or more) israeli stooges .He knows how great Muniz is and want him sold on cheap ( big commission ) People laugh because I describe their work as ‘psy-ops’ . But they need a to try to build a climate of opinion which they hope the club will respond to . Not suggesting they are succeeding (NT) -- alanos, Wednesday, February 18, 12:48:47pm (NoHost/82.132.185.1)
- I think someone is having a laugh. (NT) -- Bexhill Beast, Tuesday, February 17, 05:10:42pm (host86-142-67-240.range86-142.btcentralplus.com/86.142.67.240)
- Re: Darwin Nunez (NT) -- Would be a good fit imo, Tuesday, February 17, 06:50:13pm (host-2-102-164-149.as13285.net/2.102.164.149)
  - Agreed. Has power and pace, and just needs to relax in front of goal. (NT) -- Ra's al Ghul, Wednesday, February 18, 10:40:36am (NoHost/212.132.246.99)
    - "just needs to" is doing an herculean amount of heavy lifting. (NT) -- HE, Wednesday, February 18, 02:13:57pm (lewi-28-b2-v4wan-166893-cust665.vm4.cable.virginm.net/86.16.2.154)
      - Not with the right coaching and environment. Liverpool shirt might have been "too heavy" for him (NT) -- Ra's al Ghul, Wednesday, February 18, 04:48:20pm (NoHost/212.132.246.99)
        
        he’s a chaos merchant. He’ll never be calm in front of goal. If he could he’d be one of the greatest players in the game. His energy would be perfect for us. (NT) -- ASPT, Wednesday, February 18, 09:07:56pm (NoHost/1.145.89.100)
        
        Do we not need one of those to replace Traore? (NT) -- Ronnie Gibson's Pedantic Elbow, Thursday, February 19, 03:13:17pm (cpc107643-gill19-2-0-cust94.20-1.cable.virginm.net/81.105.102.95)
        
        He's only once gotten more then 11 goals in a league season. That was in the Portguese league, the same league that Carlos Vinicius finished as top scorer in. No thanks. (NT) -- HE, Wednesday, February 18, 10:16:40pm (lewi-28-b2-v4wan-166893-cust665.vm4.cable.virginm.net/86.16.2.154)
Kav -- P, Monday, February 16, 08:20:43pm (NoHost/90.210.24.210)
Kavanagh must have mistaken Newcastle for Fulham playing in black white as their penalty was even more blatant

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Kavanagh stood down by the Prem. Not surprising after that performance on Saturday. -- GA, Monday, February 16, 08:11:31pm (ool-18b90125.dyn.optonline.net/24.185.1.37)
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- Trouble is it’ll only be temporary, and I bet you his first game back will be one of ours. (NT) -- SCA, Monday, February 16, 09:00:32pm (NoHost/90.196.13.114)
- Can you believe this guy is in the top three rated UAFA refs from the UK (NT) -- CB, Monday, February 16, 10:23:26pm (213-18-171-225.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.171.225)
  - *Uefa* (NT) -- CB, Monday, February 16, 10:38:42pm (213-18-171-225.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.171.225)
- He wouldnt ref our local team, shocking. Dont think we have lost at home when we have had him since the Man Utd debarcle - not that he has given us anything in those games! (NT) -- Waterboy, Tuesday, February 17, 12:53:55pm (NoHost/84.65.31.238)
Wembley bound? -- Greenpole, Monday, February 16, 06:51:45pm (82-132-234-2.dab.02.net/82.132.234.2)
Opportunity knocks again...

Will Fulham once more slam the door in its face?

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- About as good a draw as we could have got (NT) -- Kenny, Monday, February 16, 06:55:26pm (NoHost/2.219.214.99)
- Brilliant draw. Last 8 again. Full strength. Get Lucky, Brentford in Final. Ok, but something to cheer about for the hopefuls. (NT) -- CB, Monday, February 16, 07:12:09pm (213-18-171-225.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.171.225)
- Re: Wembley bound? (NT) -- Home draw satisfied 3 homes games in a week, Tuesday, February 17, 11:58:16am (NoHost/31.94.72.239)
- 1999 Bazza 1-0 to FFC. Cracking night out. Pesch, Bazza & Super Geoff (NT) -- Al, Tuesday, February 17, 01:06:46pm (cust-51.179.206.203.cgn.as5482.net/51.179.206.203)
Home to Southampton in the next round of the cup. -- Hg, Monday, February 16, 06:46:14pm (brnt-04-b2-v4wan-174694-cust37.vm7.cable.virginm.net/82.6.160.38)
I’m happy with that. All the big boys missed each other, apart from Newcastle at home to city

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- Re: Home to Southampton in the next round of the cup. (NT) -- Newcastle team to avoid will beat City, Tuesday, February 17, 12:01:32pm (NoHost/31.94.72.238)
Southampton at Home -- Ffc, Monday, February 16, 06:44:53pm (97e1e33c.skybroadband.com/151.225.227.60)
Could of been a lot worse

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- Definitely winnable, Newcastle v City gets rid of one bogey team. (NT) -- SCA, Monday, February 16, 06:47:32pm (NoHost/90.196.13.114)
Sunderland is a massive game for us we lose we are in a relegation battle the teams in the mire are going to get a manager bounce. We need our two central midfielders to step up and be more aggressive we are getting run through by the opposition because they are hiding and only want to play pitter patter football -- Button, Monday, February 16, 04:01:06pm (nmal-23-b2-v4wan-169190-cust1261.vm24.cable.virginm.net/80.5.116.238)
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- Hilarious (NT) -- GA, Monday, February 16, 04:02:58pm (ool-18b90125.dyn.optonline.net/24.185.1.37)
- Good old BUs Stop Brentford Button. (NT) -- He Ain’t Heavy, Monday, February 16, 04:20:36pm (NoHost/95.145.120.229)
- It's only massive if folks have Europe expectations still? or you don't expect us to get 6 points from the next 36!!!! (NT) -- CB, Monday, February 16, 04:24:19pm (213-18-171-225.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.171.225)
- I thought they were atrocious at CC, but seems aggressive home form has overcome a good few . Time to finally show our mettle and we will win no problem . Let’s not start in low gear inviting their confidence and Kevin -despite his regular early detractors -should imho def start on the left , with either Wilson or for me preferably Chukwueze on the right . Such a pity we don’t have that dynamic CM who be assured would’ve def brought us more points thus far …3rd time lucky this summer? (NT) -- Mickey, Monday, February 16, 04:26:14pm (82-132-231-241.dab.02.net/82.132.231.241)
  - I Can’t Help It. (NT) -- Are You Sure Hank Did It This Way, Monday, February 16, 04:40:45pm (NoHost/95.145.120.229)
    - See the OP gentleman is so boring he is posting the same on other sites. (NT) -- Yawn, Monday, February 16, 05:55:07pm (NoHost/78.111.194.83)
      - BrentfordButton and Ray Rock.Two clowns in every circus or probably one.More loons on FOF than any other football forum I would imagine. (NT) -- Clown Spotter, Monday, February 16, 11:12:59pm (NoHost/95.145.120.229)
- Go on then, I'll indulge you briefly. In March our four matches are against sides all currently below us in the league. End of indulgence. (NT) -- FFC in Brighton., Monday, February 16, 05:42:40pm (82-132-238-121.dab.02.net/82.132.238.121)
  - It's actually against the 16th, 17th, 18th and 19th teams. And just because we lost twice away in Manchester where we have won once in 40 or more attempts. Relegation is 100/1 for a good reason and doubt that will change if we lose at Sunderland. He's an idiot. (NT) -- Pablo, Monday, February 16, 06:16:32pm (host86-155-130-54.range86-155.btcentralplus.com/86.155.130.54)
- I've always thought the criticism against your posts was wrong Button. It's time to admit I was 100% wrong! 🤪 (NT) -- Jimmyhillbillies, Monday, February 16, 06:54:59pm (95f1da7d.skybroadband.com/149.241.218.125)
- We concede stupid easily avoidable goals every week that hamstring us . Tottenham, West Ham band Forrest do you think they are scared of playing us do me a favour we every team chances . Sunderland is massive if we lose and them teams win you will all be in melt down . We have conceded 9 goals in four games and fluked a win against Brighton we need to win this (NT) -- Button, Monday, February 16, 11:27:00pm (NoHost/148.252.141.204)
  - Nobody sensible will be in a meltdown.Just the usual suspects with their own strange agenda. (NT) -- Never seen in a room with Ray Rock, Monday, February 16, 11:32:09pm (NoHost/95.145.120.229)
  - If you think there is even the remotest chance of us getting relegated, then you should certainly invest at 100-1. Shame you missed the 300-1 from a couple of weeks ago (NT) -- Fkev, Tuesday, February 17, 09:52:10am (NoHost/57.133.213.87)
- We wont be getting relegated, i reckon we could get 50 points but it will a bottom half finish again (NT) -- Waterboy, Tuesday, February 17, 12:55:12pm (NoHost/84.65.31.238)
5th Round Draw. -- Kimberly-Clark, Monday, February 16, 12:41:06pm (host-2-102-164-149.as13285.net/2.102.164.149)
Not a FA Cup anorak but is a probable 11 premier league teams in the last 16 draw an unusually high number?

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- 11 also in each of last two seasons, 8 in 2022-23 i think. Not gone further back as harder to remember who was in Prem! (NT) -- ian, Monday, February 16, 01:21:02pm (NoHost/199.229.39.9)
  - I remember when Millwall got all the way to the final without playinga Premier League team, hardest match they had was an all Second Division semi against Sunderland which they nicked 1-0. Big clubs kept knocking each other out, until only Manchester United was left. It may have been this curiosity that pre empted fixed draws... allegedly! (NT) -- Rupert, Tuesday, February 17, 10:20:47am (97e45270.skybroadband.com/151.228.82.112)
    - Similar things happened to create the Portsmouth v Cardiff 2008 final. Both teams only faced 1 Premier League side on the way (NT) -- JoeT, Tuesday, February 17, 03:54:51pm (cpc96906-walt25-2-0-cust362.13-2.cable.virginm.net/82.13.233.107)

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