- gk -- bvb, Wednesday, May 14, 03:02:47am (static-68-235-44-20.cust.tzulo.com/68.235.44.20)
Overall our defense ranks 3rd in the league in Expected Goals Against (the number of goals we would be expected to concede) and a big chunk of that appears to come from Leno. The sad thing is that this appears to not just be a one-off poor season, but a steady decline from him. In 2022/23 he had a Post-Shot Expected Goals of +9.1, meaning he stopped 9.1 more goals than expected, and we ranked 1st in the league in this metric. Last season we dropped to the middle in this metric, letting in 1.3 more goals than expected. In 2022/23 we ranked in the upper middle of the league in crosses stopped percentage, stopping 7.6% of crosses. Then last season we dropped to 2nd bottom with just 4.0%, around where we are today. Similarly, in 2022/23 we ranked in the upper-middle of the pack in goalie sweeper actions with 1.26 per 90, dropping to the lower-middle with 1.05 per 90 last season, before cratering to the bottom this season.
1. Post-Shot Expected Goals - Goals Allowed: A convoluted stat, but the gist is you look at how many goals would have been expected to have been scored and subtract the actual number of goals scored. By this metric, we're 2.5 goals worse off because of Leno's shot stopping this year. We're 5th worst, down with the relegation clubs and two clubs who have massively under-performed this year: Brighton and Wolves (the two worst). By contrast Bournemouth are right at the top, miles ahead of everyone else, with their goalie stopping 10 goals that were expected to be scored! Other clubs that are doing well from their goalie include Forest and Palace.
2. Crosses Stopped %age -- This is the percentage of crosses into the penalty areas which were successfully stopped by the goalie. We are 3rd worst here, with only West Ham and Forest with keepers less able to stop shots as poorly as Leno. He's successfully stopped just 4.3% of crosses. By contract the likes of Arsenal and Villa are up at 12.8% and 10.5% respectively, probably one reason they do so well at defending set-pieces.
3. Defensive Actions Outside the Penalty Area ("Sweeper Actions") -- This is the keeper acting as a sweeper. We've all talked at length this week about Andersen's biggest weakness, his pace, and the need to have someone to cover him. Well Leno is absolutely not helping here! We rank 4th worst in the league, with Leno contributing just 0.8 such actions per 90 minutes. By contrast, Newcastle (1.91), Arsenal (1.71) and Bournemouth (1.69) keepers are giving them twice what we are getting from Leno.
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- I don't know who our goalkeeping coach is,as It makes you wonder what Leno does in training. Perhaps a new goalkeeper coach is required, someone like Mark Schwarser . (NT) -- MWKent, Wednesday, May 14, 07:53:36am (host-81-86-162-36.as13285.net/81.86.162.36)
- Leno never looked the same after the operation last year (NT) -- Waterboy, Wednesday, May 14, 08:42:48am (NoHost/84.67.210.3)
- Where have I seen this analysis before? (NT) -- eganonoa, Wednesday, May 14, 09:33:48am (pool-108-18-149-21.washdc.fios.verizon.net/108.18.149.21)
- Put a bid in Fulham for Sakamoto looks decent put in some great crosses and was willing to take on his man -- Button, Tuesday, May 13, 11:18:54pm (NoHost/185.69.144.126)
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- The CEO -- The PR girl, Tuesday, May 13, 01:28:19pm (unn-149-34-244-132.datapacket.com/149.34.244.132)
Not a fan of Fulhamish, but good article there responding to the CEO out of touch quote on champagne and caviar. He’s an incredible chancer but gets away with murder.
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- wonderful -- Boe Jiden, Tuesday, May 13, 11:48:14am (static-68-235-44-20.cust.tzulo.com/68.235.44.20)
just had a Slice and Dice down at the Club
A must try.
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- Rot starts from the top -- Macintosh has to go, Tuesday, May 13, 11:29:27am (NoHost/89.19.88.131)
Everyone debating tactics and players.
Yes, Anderson and ESR have both let us down badly.
But ultimately Teflon Macintosh gets away scot free. Stand still not opened. No ambition to push the club forward. He obviously knows where the secrets are. Underperformed foe a long time
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- Not really sure you can blame players for not being better than they are. That’s down to the management team and scouts for not doing their job properly, or aren’t good enough at it. Anderson hasn’t performed and better or worse than he did for palace. Smith Rowe no one knew what he would be like as he was out injured for two years. A massive risk that hasnt paid off (yet). (NT) -- Hg, Tuesday, May 13, 11:36:32am (NoHost/31.94.32.62)
- Of course, manager has very little to work with and the fact we are 2 points from a record season shows it has been half decent! only thing id question recently is King looks a decent prospect and he isnt getting any time and we are picking proven failiures instead of him (NT) -- Waterboy, Tuesday, May 13, 11:51:52am (lanc-08-b2-v4wan-168332-cust3678.vm14.cable.virginm.net/80.5.238.95)
- There are 2 separate aspects - on the pitch stuff and off the pitch stuff. Ali Mac should, ideally, have limited say re on the pitch stuff other than appointent of managers, setting of budgets and ensuring FFP compliance. My understanding is that re off the pitch stuff he reports directly to SK. So not sure too much blame can be apportioned his way for the team performance but the fiasco of the new stand delays and the antagonising of the legacy fan base really are not feathers in his cap (NT) -- f bloke, Tuesday, May 13, 12:18:45pm (NoHost/90.200.145.126)
- Not sure there's much of a "rot"! New stand may not be open 100% but it's actually built compared to predecessors who did nothing but threaten to move us away. We've secured 3 x seasons in the Premier League. Shown "ambition" in the transfer market backing the best manager we've had in years. The underlying numbers indicate that we've underperformed, not over performed while approaching our league record points. If this is "rot" long may it thrive! (NT) -- eganonoa, Tuesday, May 13, 01:27:18pm (pool-108-18-149-21.washdc.fios.verizon.net/108.18.149.21)
- ST Renewals -- DelBoy, Tuesday, May 13, 10:05:20am (NoHost/104.30.133.124)
Does anyone else think this is slightly wrong regarding my 17 year old daughters ST price: Went on the renewals page and her price has gone from £150 (Junior), (new price would be £154) to £427 (young persons). Her birthday is in July, so fair enough, is 18 before the season starts
Just phoned the ticket office and they are saying that its the age you are on 1st August. Again, fair enough - but our seats are only on hold til 6th June
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- Fulham move on up -- Louis Saha, Tuesday, May 13, 08:49:53am (2e409fa8.skybroadband.com/46.64.159.168)
He’s done brilliantly, but Fulham can still go up one or two rungs on the ladder. I really think that this club is amazing. They have understood how to stay in the Premier League, to maintain this type of quality all the season. They’ve not had any long stretches of under-performance.
“They give everyone a tough match, and Silva is the master of that success. They have the capacity to reach and play in Europe, maybe win some trophies. That’s what I want to see from them, and Marco is the man for that. I’d be happy to see him stay and take them all the way to a trophy. Fulham are an ambitious team who want to go further, and they shouldn’t be thinking of any ceiling on their performance. They could even recruit better players in the summer to kick on.”
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- 49th Consecutive Season Tickets -- Jonathan Baines, Tuesday, May 13, 07:03:33am (NoHost/51.179.195.214)
Me and my younger brother (by 1 year) have just bought our 49th consecutive season tickets. His is now concessionary as he was 65 in December, as I was last year -66 in January this year. His was £437 (last season £676) mine was £407 ( last season £450) - I have the 'green pole' very slightly obscuring my view, but it is symbolic of the Hammersmith End and I used to stand next to it in the 1970s until we left for Loftlouse Road in 2002, returning in 2004.
A massive thank you to the club for maintaining the price for us OAPs to continue to support the team at home in our 'Dotage at the Cottage!'
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- God, that makes me think!!! Got my first when I was 18 in 1983/4, standing in the Enclosure!! Never moved since, well except for the year after Bradford and Loftus Road. Can't really believe it's 42 seasons!!! (NT) -- GTS, Tuesday, May 13, 07:25:44am (ip-185-104-136-31.ptr.icomera.net/185.104.136.31)
- Boomers really are the entitled generation (NT) -- Chris M, Tuesday, May 13, 08:05:54am (NoHost/84.67.120.19)
- Delightful post, Jonathan! (NT) -- Andrew in Bath, Tuesday, May 13, 08:36:26am (NoHost/90.210.119.115)
- Congratulations, thought I was a loyal fan, but you put me to shame. I salute you sir! (NT) -- G, Tuesday, May 13, 10:07:26am (host81-133-110-86.in-addr.btopenworld.com/81.133.110.86)
- Forest -- Samuel, Monday, May 12, 10:30:01pm (NoHost/81.78.226.36)
I'm late to the party and have only just read about the confrontation Marinakis had with Nuno after the Leicester game. My initial thought was that his grievances should have been put on ice until a more appropriate time, ideally in private. It also seemed outrageous that he's angry with a manager who has taken the club from relegation fodder to European football in 2 seasons. But perhaps that level of ruthlessness is justified, and arguably the very reason Forest have done so remarkably well. After all, he's spent hundreds of millions servicing the ambition of the fanbase and delivered on the promise of Europe. At least the supporters know they have an owner who wants success and will not passively tolerate poor performances or decision making. The squad will also now know they have to give 100% because they're dealing with someone who clearly doesn't take prisoners.
I'm still disinclined to agree with his actions but there's also a side that feels that perhaps owners, and supporters are too forgiving of failure. The owners fork out millions and the supporters pay hard earned cash to watch the games and buy the merchandise, but it's the multi millionaire managers and players who, more often than not, are awarded sympathy. How many times do we hear or read comments like: Get behind the team and/or manager after a string of bad performances. Or the player just "Needs an arm around his shoulder" or "He's lacking confidence" etc. Well, he wasn't lacking confidence or needed a cuddle when he signed £100k p/w contract. Noooooo, he was full of bloody beans then.
Maybe Marinakis has the right attitude after all.
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- Marinakis has real passion for the Club , attends nearly every game and -like the fans - feels every emotion . That’s my kind of Owner ; even took on the Establishment and won . He made a pledge on taking over to deliver them European Football and will succeed ahead of schedule . As for incident with Nuno , he was just expressing his frustrations . Expect a firing of their medical staff and a dressing down for Awoniyi . Oh and didn’t Nuno handle the questions well ! (NT) -- Mickey, Monday, May 12, 11:16:10pm (host5-80-69-138.range5-80.btcentralplus.com/5.80.69.138)
- Absolutely. Nuno exhibited class in the way he handled the incident and calmly reduced it relatable emotions. I think the embers of that situation will continue to smolder and reignite in the future, especially if Forest fail to improve their current position, as Marinakis is ruthlessly ambitious and doesn't seem the type of character who easily forgets. (NT) -- Samuel, Tuesday, May 13, 07:25:12am (NoHost/81.78.226.36)
- He is fcuking horrible.Nuno should have told him to go away.All that dish though. (NT) -- HemelRog, Tuesday, May 13, 09:02:58am (5ec0f8a7.skybroadband.com/94.192.248.167)
- Yes a complete crook, with dodgy dealings and somehow avoiding prosecutions. Just the sort of owner you like, eh? (NT) -- Club Stooge, Tuesday, May 13, 11:39:52am (host86-145-9-192.range86-145.btcentralplus.com/86.145.9.192)
- This is exactly what is missing at Fulham. We are a soft organization from top to bottom. Always too worried about appearances and feelings. Throw that attitude in the bin. I wish are club had an alpha like their owner. (NT) -- RR, Tuesday, May 13, 05:40:05pm (regus.net/50.238.80.70)
- Managers fail they get a big pay out, probably a go somewhere else, players like Rashford turn up late, go out clubbing after losses, put in public they want to leave (despite them signing the contract for exorbitant money) and they get to go and play somewhere else by forcing a move. We are told to feel sorry for players/managers all the time, for being paid insane amounts to play/coach in football, yet apparently the owners are the devil for losing loads of money to pay these ‘hero’s’. (NT) -- Henry1879, Tuesday, May 13, 07:11:41am (cpc113812-lea23-2-0-cust213.6-3.cable.virginm.net/86.26.216.214)
- Marinakis spat at the referee when they lost at home to us, given some kind of ban. (NT) -- Juan, Tuesday, May 13, 07:53:55am (NoHost/2.222.50.115)
- I don't feel too sorry for these exceedingly well-paid people being put under pressure, but battering them and slagging them off doesn't necessarily improve their performance or results. It can even have an adverse effect (NT) -- El Pato, Tuesday, May 13, 08:33:36am (NoHost/130.255.28.185)
- I can't stand him. He comes across as a spoilt rich kid who tantrums when he doesn't get what he wants. How many charges of corruption against him were conveniently dropped in Greece? (NT) -- Mr Kurkuruza, Tuesday, May 13, 09:34:36am (92.40.193.18.threembb.co.uk/92.40.193.18)
- Leno replacement? -- dd, Monday, May 12, 09:47:06pm (NoHost/90.213.242.75)
Fulham are one of the clubs in the picture to sign San Lorenzo de Almagro goalkeeper Orlando Gill in the summer window.That’s according to San Lorenzo Website, and they cover comments made by the 24-year-old’s agent, Mariano Zelaya.The representative claims Bologna and Genoa are both keen and his client has received an offer from the Premier League. He hasn’t made it clear the details of the team, and the outlet suggests Fulham is the club.“Bologna and Genoa are interested. There’s also a very important offer from the Premier League [Fulham], and there’s also an offer from Brazilian football,” he said. The Paraguayan graduated from Club Sportivo San Lorenzo[Paraguayan club] and left them to join the Argentine club in January 2024.Gill made 18 appearances so far of which 17 are from this year and kept nine clean sheets and conceded 11 goals in the process. His contract expires in December 2027.Despite receiving approaches from Fulham and other clubs, the agent insists his client’s preference is to finish this year at San Lorenzo de Almagro.“What I always tell Orlando is to take it slow. He’s at a big club, which gave him the opportunity and visibility. I want him to stay until the end of the year because he’s fighting to be part of the national team,” Zelaya explained.“Where a player builds his career is crucial. You have to be very careful where he plays and with which manager. If a player tells me ‘I want to make history with the national team,’ then the responsibility is huge.“Today, Orlando has San Lorenzo and his national team on his mind. We’ll work through our options slowly.”The goalkeeper hasn’t made his debut for Paraguay but that could change soon. Paraguay manager Gustavo Alfaro called him up for the two games against Chile and Colombia in March.
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- Season Ticket Renewal -- Mr No Name, Monday, May 12, 05:27:52pm (host86-166-64-159.range86-166.btcentralplus.com/86.166.64.159)
Received an email invitation to renew today but can't see anything definitive about having a card again next season (as an old wotsit) beyond this on the web site:
"Following on from a successful 2024/25 Premier League season, digital season passes will continue to be distributed to fans as the default method of entry into Craven Cottage.
The Club will support fans who require further assistance on digital entry and understand there will be some exemption groups, who will be able to apply for an alternative entry method." How do we apply for an alternative?
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Same as last season I guess. A lot nearer the start of the season eligible categories, such as old gits like me, can apply for a card! (NT) -- Phil, Monday, May 12, 07:14:26pm (saphil.plus.com/31.125.165.251)
- I just renewed and emailed back to check if I could use the card again. I'll keep you posted. (NT) -- Crafty Cottager, Monday, May 12, 08:29:36pm (NoHost/94.10.142.164)
- Write to the ticket office or the SLO, Nicola Walworth. They will re-issue cards or consider creating a new one for those who need them. (NT) -- Scott, Tuesday, May 13, 01:29:45am (NoHost/147.161.143.78)
- Scouting and Recruitment -- Ken, Monday, May 12, 04:43:34pm (33C63E8e.skybroadband.com/51.198.62.142)
Does anyone know for sure if Talbot and son are still in charge of scouting and if not who is, there must be someone in charge or some sort of landing team?
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- Re: Scouting and Recruitment: We need a director of Football recruitment. (NT) -- Alboy, Monday, May 12, 06:10:00pm (host81-141-215-112.range81-141.btcentralplus.com/81.141.215.112)
- Re: Scouting and Recruitment (NT) -- Talbot and Son still in the Premises, Tuesday, May 13, 02:04:50am (host-2-102-161-56.as13285.net/2.102.161.56)
- Talbot was last seen at the Christmas party at MP. He's believed to be in his office, as plates of food are slid under the door every day and an empty plate is returned. (NT) -- MWKent, Tuesday, May 13, 08:56:15am (host-81-86-162-36.as13285.net/81.86.162.36)
- Re: Scouting and Recruitment -- golden gloves, Wednesday, May 14, 10:05:23am (nrwh-14-b2-v4wan-164660-cust592.vm23.cable.virginm.net/82.4.218.81)
- Bella - chancellors -- woodman, Monday, May 12, 03:41:34pm (NoHost/46.31.84.144)
Chancellors drinkers of an age will remember Bella the landlady. She has sadly passed away. It was a proper Fulham pub with grandson Carl now in control.
RIP Bella and thanks for the hospitality.
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- Where our goals come from -- eganonoa, Monday, May 12, 03:25:48pm (pool-108-18-149-21.washdc.fios.verizon.net/108.18.149.21)
Good couple of comments below from old codger and Bad Boy about there not being enough goals. The last two seasons we scored 55 goals in each season. So far this season we have 51 goals with two games remaining. Optimistically, then, we equal that 55 goal standard. But most likely we fall a bit short. As we always have people blaming that on our strikers (not those two in that thread, I should note) or the strange generic "no natural goal scorers", I thought it would be interesting to look at where our goals came from in each season, looking at total number of scorers, goals from defense, central midfield (inc. the attacking midfielders), wide forwards and centre forwards. I thought it would also be useful to compare that to Brighton, held up as a positive example for us always, but whose top scorer, Danny Welbeck, just hit 10 goals for just the 2nd time in his career.
2022/23: Number of scorers = 15; Goals from Defenders = 4; Goals from Central Midfielders = 12; Goals from Wide Forwards = 17; Goals from Centre Forwards = 19; Own Goals = 3
2023/24: Number of scorers = 17; Goals from Defenders = 6; Goals from Central Midfielders = 9; Goals from Wide Forwards = 21; Goals from Centre Forwards = 18; Own Goals = 1
2024/25: Number of scorers = 11; Goals from Defenders = 1; Goals from Central Midfielders = 9; Goals from Wide Forwards = 21; Goals from Centre Forwards = 19; Own Goals = 1
Brighton: Number of scorers = 17; Goals from Defenders = 5; Goals from Central Midfielders = 8; Goals from Wide Forwards = 23; Goals from Centre Forwards = 21; Own Goals = 2
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- A few things stand out to me: (1) Our goals from central mid, wide forwards and centre forwards aren't wildly off Brighton's and our centre forwards, wide forwards and central midfielders (thanks to ESR) have already equaled last season's numbers with two game left; (2) we've had a massive drop-off from always being one of the top sides in terms of goals from multiple players; and (3) the defenders drop off is stark. To me the problem looks a lot more like tactics and coaching than personnel. (NT) -- eganonoa, Monday, May 12, 03:32:10pm (pool-108-18-149-21.washdc.fios.verizon.net/108.18.149.21)
- I think Alboy has a significant point - the goals analysis doesn't dig quite deep enough. Goalscoring improvement areas for me are quicker progress in the final third, accurate crossing (less looping crosses and more accurate), better set piece preparation / performance. That's saying nothing about individuals (nor about the defence), just what I think needs to happen up up the goals fpr (NT) -- Old Dave., Monday, May 12, 08:44:41pm (213.61.90.146.dyn.plus.net/146.90.61.213)
- Harsh or Fair ! -- MLC, Monday, May 12, 10:18:25am (NoHost/104.28.40.135)
Have this team lost its bottle when it mattered towards the end of season?
In the games that mattered since beating Forest at home was it a case of lack of quality or just not good enough!
Some might argue Liverpool game coming from behind but the bread & butter games like Brighton Bournemouth Palace even a poor Chelsea team? let alone last Saturday’s lacklustre 2nd half display.
They were beat with still 20 mins left if you look at the body language and blame game?
Looking more like finishing outside Top 10 now and that just feels a disappointment.
Yes we all know that last August we were happy just to stay up everything else a bonus but this has turned out to be a damp squib. Could get even worse if Brentford secure Conference next season!
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- This squad is too small, the first 11 are too old, too slow, to passive we need a couple of young aggressive goal scoring midfielders and more pace & guile throughout the squad. If we don’t ….we could be in big trouble next season (NT) -- Ffc, Monday, May 12, 11:03:52am (host81-140-250-163.range81-140.btcentralplus.com/81.140.250.163)
- Simple reason. Not enough goals. How many games have we been on top and either not scored or only scored once. We've scored 3 goals just twice, and scored once in 13 games. (NT) -- old codger, Monday, May 12, 12:17:13pm (unn-138-199-30-159.datapacket.com/138.199.30.159)
- Re: Harsh or Fair ! (NT) -- Players may know about the Managers Future., Monday, May 12, 12:43:16pm (host-2-102-161-56.as13285.net/2.102.161.56)
- Re: Harsh or Fair ! (NT) -- Future of Marco now gathering speed, Monday, May 12, 12:52:30pm (host-2-102-161-56.as13285.net/2.102.161.56)
- Bedlam in Barcelona !!! -- Lovely weather, Sunday, May 11, 05:25:13pm (2e409fa8.skybroadband.com/46.64.159.168)
Barca 4 Real Madrid 3... now that was entertainment ! It had everything plus more.
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- Palace winning again -- Ffc, Sunday, May 11, 03:38:36pm (host81-140-250-163.range81-140.btcentralplus.com/81.140.250.163)
Only 2 points behind us now ….looks like a 12th place finish for us then
Bottom half …. Good season ???
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- Yep, as they say, it's not over until..... I think many got carried away with the Europe possibility. Whoever gets it bloody well deserves it. Me, I said months ago, yes, I'd take it, but I didn't think we were anything like strong enough, and I am happy to maintain prem status over anything. (NT) -- CB, Sunday, May 11, 04:19:40pm (213-18-167-171.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.167.171)
- Makes the Button derby Must Win.. 🔥. Next sat will decide bragging rights 🥳 (NT) -- Lol, Sunday, May 11, 04:20:23pm (customer.lndngbr1.pop.starlinkisp.net/216.128.29.106)
- We fade just like last year. Spineless. (NT) -- RR, Sunday, May 11, 06:37:04pm (162.sub-174-235-115.myvzw.com/174.235.115.162)
- Re: Palace winning again: Yes good season if we had not dtopped points in extra time we would be too four. (NT) -- ALBOY, Sunday, May 11, 07:09:34pm (host81-141-215-112.range81-141.btcentralplus.com/81.141.215.112)
- I always said brentford would get in and we would be 10th but that's looking unlikely now (NT) -- Waterboy, Sunday, May 11, 11:03:19pm (NoHost/84.67.210.3)
- Get a grip. It's a competitive competition. We've stablized from a yo-yo team to an established team. We've coped losing Mitrovic and Pauliniah. Silva is a good coach and good in the transfer market. More good signings should see a steady improvement. Keep the faith and stop being snowflakes. (NT) -- Mark Latham's One Nation, Monday, May 12, 08:09:18am (NoHost/63.70.5.32)
- The finish to the season has been pitiful - but that could be a good thing. (NT) -- Rupert, Monday, May 12, 08:28:43am (5ec14d8b.skybroadband.com/94.193.77.139)
- Palace currently just 2 points behind us -- Mickey, Sunday, May 11, 03:36:51pm (82-132-215-139.dab.02.net/82.132.215.139)
and in a Cup Final. Whereas we heartily celebrated the ‘achievement ‘ of getting to a 1/4 final ! Throw in their abundance and aptitude for spotting good young talent via a magnificent recruitment system and it has to be said Steve Parrish has exceeded the Great Shahid Khan who despite his ‘Spectacular and Icarrrrrnic ‘ Stand , continues to underperform where it matters most to Fans . As for Little Bournemouth and ‘Bus Stop’ Brentford : oh how we ridiculed their status after our Great Leader took over . The ‘Vitality’ and the ‘G-Tech’: both proof you don’t need to show off your Ego to be successful on the pitch
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- Not to forget little Burnley managed by Parker Ball when he managed us, will likely be another little B team to contend with. Plus a rejuvenated Leeds too. The Club needs to out the various under-performers that have ruined our last few winnable games. That said, glad we won't make Europe, our squad couldn't cope & we'd suffer playing more games. (NT) -- Paolo, Sunday, May 11, 04:12:39pm (NoHost/176.248.67.105)
- Investing in the new stand will bring in additional revenue on non-match days which is good for the longevity of the club. Our capacity is greater than Bournemouth and Brentford combined. Moyes admitted that if we'd have got a second yesterday his side would have been looking at another defeat. Given that we were missing Lukic, Robinson and Muniz through injury it's a bit harsh to be quite so critical in my view. (NT) -- FFC in Brighton, Sunday, May 11, 11:12:36pm (NoHost/2.120.137.10)
- Good post and so true - who cares about a stand we are there to watch our team compete and win! (NT) -- Fulham Russ, Monday, May 12, 05:20:21am (NoHost/31.94.72.39)
- Brentford and Bournemouth have been built on sand - you can't keep pulling rabbits out the hat - you can include Crystal Palace in that as well - our infrastructure is on a different level. (NT) -- Rupert, Monday, May 12, 08:32:35am (5ec14d8b.skybroadband.com/94.193.77.139)
- Pickford save is the best I have ever seen live how he never broke his arm landing I will never know -- Button, Sunday, May 11, 01:08:20pm (nmal-23-b2-v4wan-169190-cust1261.vm24.cable.virginm.net/80.5.116.238)
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- Timo Werner . -- Fof goss, Sunday, May 11, 11:49:01am (2e409fa8.skybroadband.com/46.64.159.168)
Fulham are emerging as front runners to sign Timo Werner this summer & are ready to offer him a key role in their attacking line up.
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- Jesus …..he can’t hit a cows arse (NT) -- Ffc, Sunday, May 11, 11:56:04am (host81-140-250-163.range81-140.btcentralplus.com/81.140.250.163)
- Re: Timo Werner . (NT) -- Yes please I’m onside with this one, Sunday, May 11, 11:58:23am (host-2-102-161-56.as13285.net/2.102.161.56)
- If this turns out to be true, I'd hazard a guess that Silva is staying. This seems like his profile of player. Not sure it's a good idea though; he's been useless in the premier League. £165k p/w for another toothless striker? (NT) -- Samuel, Sunday, May 11, 12:09:46pm (NoHost/81.78.226.36)
- There's a scorer in there , played Leipzig scored for fun. Chelsea Spurs ? Played him on the wing kept him there. Too many egos there. Sure he would do well at CC. (NT) -- Lovely weather, Sunday, May 11, 12:32:55pm (2e409fa8.skybroadband.com/46.64.159.168)
- Big no from me. 29 massive wages and flopped at Chelsea and Spurs. No resale value. Why bother? Siva wanted ESR and so far that is at best a lukewarm signing. Hope he gets a bit of confidence. (NT) -- Going, Sunday, May 11, 01:06:37pm (host86-150-245-99.range86-150.btcentralplus.com/86.150.245.99)
- German Tommy Radzinsky. No ta. (NT) -- WayneKerrins, Sunday, May 11, 03:40:58pm (pool-108-2-117-254.phlapa.fios.verizon.net/108.2.117.254)
- Can we not just follow around the Brighton and Brentford scouts and gazzump whatever offer they make. (NT) -- Thet wouldn’t give Werner a second glance, Sunday, May 11, 04:41:21pm (128.217.31.213.dyn.plus.net/213.31.217.128)
- Anyone who wants him here is off their head he’s been awful in England and had two tries if he was any good good why didn’t spurs take up the offer to get him for nothing? but I’m sure silva will work his ‘magic’ like he did with everyone else… (NT) -- with fans like ours no wonder we’re shit, Sunday, May 11, 08:49:58pm (NoHost/45.80.28.137)
- HA!!! www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFe-nVtwDWU (NT) -- FF, Sunday, May 11, 08:55:43pm (82-132-213-133.dab.02.net/82.132.213.133)
- He would suit our squad full of no natural finishers! (NT) -- Waterboy, Sunday, May 11, 11:08:20pm (NoHost/84.67.210.3)
- We lack character and leadership -- View from the Riverside, Sunday, May 11, 10:44:33am (NoHost/104.28.40.138)
I do feel this team has gone as far as it can go. Sitting in my seat yesterday before the game I felt we would be value for a draw. After 30 mins I thought Everton looked like one of the worst teams to come to CC this season. Then we just ran up the white flag and surrendered. How we lost to them I don’t know. But they hung in there and battled.
There is no leadership in this team. The last leader we had was Kevin Macdonald maybe Ream. TC has never been a leader and I don’t think Robinson is one either. We seem to award the captaincy as an add on to a contract negotiation.
After the game I saw Silva leave in a Mercedes while the squad left in the bus . A small thing but where is the leadership, togetherness and team spirit ? Surely they all leave together. I think off the pitch we don’t have strong leadership and the fiasco with the Riverside shows that.
We are soft and it shows. I think we will struggle next season unless there is a radical change. We can’t dig in, we don’t scrap and we just roll over.
The squad also needs an overhaul - Willian, Traore, CV, Cairney not fit for purpose. Tete probably and maybe Robinson will be off. Maybe Silva too. I would like see some character in what is on display.
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- Same tactics as last week v Villa. Marco subbed off the brightest sparks again (Sess, Harry ESR) and to what effect ? Utilised 5 subs from a very weak bench, who subsequently offered feck all. Very strange tactics has arguably cost us 4 points from the last couple of fixtures. (NT) -- Bad Boy, Sunday, May 11, 10:58:38am (NoHost/2.222.160.125)
- Re: We lack character and leadership….without doubt. The goalkeeper’s a captain….says it all. (NT) -- Bad Boy, Sunday, May 11, 11:05:02am (NoHost/2.222.160.125)
- The refs are right Silvas shite! (NT) -- Vic Halom, Sunday, May 11, 11:15:28am (05425165.skybroadband.com/5.66.81.101)
- Re: We lack character and leadership (NT) -- I personally feel the spirit in the team is good, Sunday, May 11, 11:38:29am (host-2-102-161-56.as13285.net/2.102.161.56)
- With Liverpool the exception it has been boring watching this bunch of robots for about a dozen games now. No fight, little penetration, no leadership no attacking ideas, no Plan B. Need a clearout! Need Boa Morte back to replace his successor. Whatever the new guy does is not working. (NT) -- Sleepy at the Cottage, Sunday, May 11, 11:53:35am (host86-150-245-99.range86-150.btcentralplus.com/86.150.245.99)
- Wouldn't necessarily read too much into Silva leaving separately. After the Saints game Silva and many of the players left separately either in their own cars (AP) or private vehicles (Silva and ESR to name just two). (NT) -- FFC in Brighton., Sunday, May 11, 02:42:15pm (host109-149-166-73.range109-149.btcentralplus.com/109.149.166.73)
- We also lack alpa's (NT) -- RR, Monday, May 12, 10:21:56pm (NoHost/104.220.143.92)
- 27,653 -- TSW, Sunday, May 11, 10:16:26am (NoHost/31.94.18.188)
Biggest crowd since 1977 & incredibly our second biggest league crowd since 1968. Had a couple of bigger v QPR & West Ham in the league cup in early & mid 70s
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- Re: 27,653, but was it? there was at least 500 empty seats in the new stand itself. (NT) -- Chelsea Hardman, Sunday, May 11, 10:36:36am (ik085228.ikoula.com/185.246.85.228)
- There was a couple of hundred Americans in the Riverside yesterday - mostly Match Day Plus . Where did they come from (NT) -- View from the Riverside, Sunday, May 11, 10:46:36am (NoHost/104.28.40.135)
- Re: 27,653 (NT) -- Best West Ham league cup 74. 1975 yes indeed, Sunday, May 11, 11:41:09am (host-2-102-161-56.as13285.net/2.102.161.56)
- 27,653 is actually our third highest attendance at home this season. There were 27,770 at the Liverpool game and 27,712 at the Chelsea game. (NT) -- Putney White, Sunday, May 11, 10:38:24pm (NoHost/62.56.94.62)
- How confident are you of next season -- Mickey, Sunday, May 11, 09:51:09am (host5-80-69-138.range5-80.btcentralplus.com/5.80.69.138)
and being able to progress where we finally land.? Our closest competitors would arguably appear to have advanced further than us , taking longer term strategy into account ,whilst 2-3 underperforming Clubs are expected to resume more familiar challenges . Most ( myself included ) were very happy at our ‘spend’ last summer and understandably felt the experience brought in would perhaps propel us to greater heights . Will our Recruitment strategy and approach change ? Will our Manager ( as much as I’ve always championed him ) focus more on our weakest points ( defending , set pieces , intensity , mentality , dropping levels within individual games ). Will the squad still be on the ageing side ? Last but not least , how much of an attraction will we be compared to those around us ? Who are the football people at the Club to whom Silva can speak and focus beyond just the immediate future ? Why haven’t our Recruitment sourced the type of young talent that would benefit the Club long term ? Going to be very very difficult …….
games
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- It’s impossible to give a rational answer. At this point not very as in the same manager and squad lower table. But I think there will be more changes than for some years while still maintaining a stable core. On that basis positive. (NT) -- CB, Sunday, May 11, 10:22:58am (213-18-167-171.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.167.171)
- “ I think there will be more changes than for some years “ .hope you’re right , but what makes you think this, seeing we spent big last summer ? Admittedly there will be a few squad players departing and possibly 1-2 from our regular starters , but I cannot see our recruitment focusing more on lesser known younger promising players ., nor can I see Silva ( assuming still with us ) being prepared to promote them into the first team . Will there ever be a change in Strategy by Recruitment ? (NT) -- Mickey, Sunday, May 11, 10:43:46am (82-132-213-132.dab.02.net/82.132.213.132)
- You will see better set pieces over Hackney Marshes any given Sunday than this current Fulham team can offer? Close to criminal what they have served up this season. Then you have the efforts from distance or non efforts! (NT) -- Gary, Sunday, May 11, 10:52:21am (host31-51-137-1.range31-51.btcentralplus.com/31.51.137.1)
- Re: How confident are you of next season (NT) -- We Certainly don’t need Europe, Sunday, May 11, 11:53:19am (host-2-102-161-56.as13285.net/2.102.161.56)
- 6 signings we would be a good side. New keeper, cm who scores goals, cam who scores goals, 2 wide players who can score goals and that illusive striker we never buy! Keep Tete/Raul - release Willian/Traore/Nelson - sell Perreira (NT) -- Waterboy, Sunday, May 11, 11:12:39pm (NoHost/84.67.210.3)
- HaHa -- HemelRog, Sunday, May 11, 09:41:50am (5ec0f8a7.skybroadband.com/94.192.248.167)
So let me get this right.We are totally rubber ducked.Spurs,WHU and MU will all be title contenders next season The promoted teams will all be a reincarnation of the 1970 Brazilians.Silva is off to manage Chesham United.All our team are either past it or unready overhyped midgets.Our two forwards who have scored a few goals this season are crap.One of them only tries against the big teams.We. Have zero funds.Any reasons not to change teams to the magnificent QPRLite?
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- Best stand in the world'? Fulham take fan experience to new levels -- BBC for the full article., Sunday, May 11, 08:12:35am (2e409fa8.skybroadband.com/46.64.159.168)
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- pinch of salt mate... it was a priavte tour for a journalist who was sat in the sky deck. notice how his photos 'bbc souce' had zero other people. None of that area is open yet to paying public. in fact despite claims 'its now open'.. the opening was delayed again only last week. noted the capacity now 28-000. sales are slow, as mentioned people know this isn't best in class its below Spurs and wembelly for starters. (NT) -- DIOPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP, Sunday, May 11, 09:02:54am (hugo.fabre.vms.tech.ouidou.fr/62.210.140.1)
- I do get why it upsets us, the whole concept is totally alien to my idea of going to football. But the Club has to make ends meet especially with FFP, so if it keeps prices down where I sit in the old Enclosure then fair enough. Other people paying £2000 to eat Michelin starred food is their ( daft) choice, but it helps me afford to go. (NT) -- GTS, Sunday, May 11, 09:53:16am (0545288c.skybroadband.com/5.69.40.140)
- It is what it is, but the Future is Bright! -- Jonthan Baines, Sunday, May 11, 06:30:10am (NoHost/51.179.195.214)
When King/Godo came on it was like a different game. Godo had 10 times more influence than Traore when he came on. King was pass and move and generally got in the faces of the Everton players - both IMHO should have started. Our PL2 team finished second to Man City and not because the rest of teams are sh1t, but because there is a lot of talent in there. We have one particular talent we can't play in the first team until next season and that is midfielder Seth Ridgeon (he wasn't sixteen until September 2024, so under 16 at the start of the season and like two of Arsenal youngsters ineligible)The future's bright the future's Fulham COYWs. Should Silva leave, Rosenior at Strasbourg is an excellent replacement!
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- If they’re any good they’ll be off to Liverpool for a couple of million (NT) -- alanos, Sunday, May 11, 07:19:16am (82-132-212-183.dab.02.net/82.132.212.183)
- ?? Godo was awful. Lost count of the times he tried to take a defender on and got easily dispossessed. Not the answer... (NT) -- Truth hurts, Sunday, May 11, 08:13:01am (NoHost/90.213.242.75)
- Re: It is what it is, but the Future is Bright! (NT) -- Josh King really didn’t shine in U21match at CC, Sunday, May 11, 09:27:48am (host-2-102-161-56.as13285.net/2.102.161.56)
- Worth pointing out that the u 21 team that finished 2nd - did so largely without the efforts of King Godo and Ridgeon. The success was more sum of parts team cohesion than outstanding individual performances. That cohesion was slightly lost when the 3 mentioned were dropped into the team for the knock out stages - even though the team suffered it was still probably the right thing to do since they are the most technically proficient and all 3 really needed game time (NT) -- f bloke, Sunday, May 11, 09:29:01am (NoHost/90.200.145.126)
- What did we expect our current position is higher than should be1) no leader 2) lack of goals by not signing or retaining a striker 3) Injuries to key players - There is clearly also a weak mentality within this squad and that comes from the management, too many players earning ridiculous amounts of monies and not earning it and doing enough it all goes back to being too inconsistent throughout the season - beating Brentford will be like winning a trophy that’s how our season has finished! -- Fulham Russ, Sunday, May 11, 05:27:58am (NoHost/31.94.72.39)
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- Good Season -- Tina Weymouth, Sunday, May 11, 12:31:11am (host-2-102-161-56.as13285.net/2.102.161.56)
Running on Empty.We are lacking something compared to the 3 Bs we were competing against Couldn’t nail down the word till heard it mention in a different text( Dynamism ) that’s it.
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- Marco -- Waterboy, Saturday, May 10, 10:42:01pm (NoHost/84.67.210.3)
Don't really understand the desire to change the manager, the squad is average and lacks goals everywhere other than Raul
Imagine actually having a decent striker and midfielders who score/create goals.
Look at our subs we could bring on today, there was less than 5 goals amongst the 9 players.
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- Give it a rest FFS.Muniz and Jiminez have done well.The trouble is the lack of goals from midfield and defence.As poor as we were second half they got incredibly lucky.Nice to see all the usual suspects giving it large. (NT) -- HemelRog, Saturday, May 10, 10:48:29pm (5ec0f8a7.skybroadband.com/94.192.248.167)
- I'd love to keep Marco, but at the same time there are things this season, not playing personnel related, that should have been addressed. Set pieces, difficulty at beginning and end of halves, predictable play down the left, difficulty responding to tactical changes. Today, Moyes saw Berge bossing things and had his boys swarm him. That should have opened space elsewhere. But Marco seemingly had no answer. If he stays I think we need a tactical refresh; maybe via a shakeup of his staff. (NT) -- eganonoa, Saturday, May 10, 11:24:11pm (NoHost/172.56.3.215)
- Predictable play down the left,??? (NT) -- GA, Saturday, May 10, 11:43:09pm (ool-18b90125.dyn.optonline.net/24.185.1.37)
- The berge thing was so frustrating yesterday, they countered his early dominance by putting doucoure on him, yet we still tried doing the same thing again and again and again and kept losing the ball in really bad areas. Players used to be able to work things out, football so rigid now the manager has to instruct them to do anything different, which he didn’t. (NT) -- Henry1879, Sunday, May 11, 05:05:14am (82-132-220-200.dab.02.net/82.132.220.200)
- The team lacks goals everywhere BECAUSE of the style of overplaying introduced by Silva. (NT) -- dd, Sunday, May 11, 08:16:33am (NoHost/90.213.242.75)
- Utter rubbish -- eXecutionEr, Saturday, May 10, 09:59:58pm (mort-08-b2-v4wan-172685-cust235.vm24.cable.virginm.net/77.99.132.236)
I remember, sitting in the Stevenage Road stand, regularly singing “what a load of rubbish”. That should have been sung today. Fans are too soft nowadays.
Today was terrible - as has been every other game this season whenever a result was needed. I genuinely hope this team doesn’t achieve a record points total. They don’t deserve it. This team should remembered as one which limply threw away Cup and league opportunities
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- Have we ever beaten David Moyes at Craven Cottage? -- Question, Saturday, May 10, 09:36:50pm (NoHost/109.77.126.58)
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- Seen that game before -- JamieR, Saturday, May 10, 06:10:01pm (82-132-212-140.dab.02.net/82.132.212.140)
We start ok, seem on top, get a goal even. Jimenez fantastic in the first half. Berge travelling forwards with the ball very well. But we can't put a team to bed. Wilson, Iwobi especially wasteful today, too hesitant, poor shots or final passes or poor decision making.
So despite having had barely any pressure put on us we are vulnerable to something random happening like the deflection.
Then second half we are nervous and revert to the even more cautious, slow, ponderous buildup. The two exceptions were our shots - some rare one-touch passing leading to the save from Sess, and then Wilson running in behind - something you seldom see in this Silva set up. On the whole I thought we were getting worse and worse, players taking the most conservative option and all our attacks seemed to taking place with Everton set, ten men behind the ball.
Then when Everton start to foray forward - panic. I guess there's enough evidence now to say we have a serious issue defending set pieces and are seeing a serious decline in Leno. ESR was classy and did very well for the goal but what's up - is he going to be a 60-70 minute player for ever?
Games like today and suddenly the prospect of Silva leaving in the summer doesn't feel so awful.
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- Did have two decent chances at 1-1, sess shot & Wilson lob both saved by Pickford. But we are too slow, too predictable in how we attack, can't keep clean sheets. A lot can happen between now and August but honestly can't see Man U, Spurs, Everton being as poor next season and the teams coming up could make a go of it, so potentially we could find ourselves in a battle with the 3 coming up, plus wolves, west ham. Apologies for pessimism. (NT) -- Sw18ffc, Saturday, May 10, 06:30:41pm (host-78-150-136-228.as13285.net/78.150.136.228)
- Re: Did have two decent chances at 1-1, sess shot & Wilson lob both saved by Pickford. But we are too slow, too predictable in how we attack, can't keep clean sheets. A lot can happen between now and August but honestly can't see Man U, Spurs, Everton being as poor next season and the teams coming up could make a go of it, so potentially we could find ourselves in a battle with the 3 coming up, plus wolves, west ham. Apologies for pessimism. (NT) -- Good post. Europe no big miss., Sunday, May 11, 06:34:15am (host-2-102-161-56.as13285.net/2.102.161.56)
- Excellent write up. At times this season our deficits come across as more psychological than tactical. Its odd. First season up we played with such fire and we rarely fail to bring it against the big clubs. Would add that the game showed yet again our fallibility from set pieces (throws and corners today) and was a bit of a microcosm of what I wrote about Leno below. Pity the seasons over like this. Not sure I want it to be the one where we break our points record. Might paper over the cracks (NT) -- eganonoa, Saturday, May 10, 06:31:24pm (NoHost/172.58.244.3)
- Re: Seen that game before. Yes good summary thought Pickford made two outstanding g sa es from Wilson. First half well on top but gave a sloppy goal away. Leno awful error for the third goal after. E supporting him yesterday. Really terrible second half played far too slowly again. Very dissapounting day. (NT) -- Alboy, Saturday, May 10, 06:49:28pm (NoHost/185.69.145.29)
- 2 issues, we are so predictable, so if we know whats gonna happen, oppo analysts sure will, try and over load our left, get ball to Anderson, try long pass, get crosses in, we’ve done same all season, where’s the evolution, the coaching? Set pieces is also a shambles given the size of our team, again where’s the coaching? I feel the same, silva is a good manager, but we’ve become so structured games are often boring and teams read us, want him to stay but not upset if he leaves (NT) -- Henry1879, Saturday, May 10, 07:09:50pm (cpc113812-lea23-2-0-cust213.6-3.cable.virginm.net/86.26.216.214)
- Another issue with transfer policy is these expirienged prem players will all be on big wages, can’t move them on even if we want to refresh (nobody is taking Leno). I’d like to see AP, diop (too much wages for bench), cast, tete, Leno, reed, Cairney all moved on, we’d be lucky to get 20/25m for the lot. (NT) -- Henry1879, Saturday, May 10, 07:14:48pm (cpc113812-lea23-2-0-cust213.6-3.cable.virginm.net/86.26.216.214)
- We never put anyone to bed, been saying it for months. Lack of natural goalscorers leaves the defence under pressure for 90 mins and that's unsustainable over 38 games (NT) -- Waterboy, Saturday, May 10, 07:43:04pm (NoHost/148.252.141.250)
- Never thought I'd think this but we may need fresh blood in charge. -- CB, Saturday, May 10, 05:58:26pm (213-18-167-171.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.167.171)
I personally would be happy to see someone like Kieran McKenna.Think he has a bright future. Ipswich have not been kicked out of the park, although relegated.
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- Brentford away -- Dave (Anyone interested), Saturday, May 10, 05:52:37pm (82-132-215-169.dab.02.net/82.132.215.169)
Brentford adult ticket cost price....&30. Anyone interested?
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- Brentford Button possibly. (NT) -- FulhamRog, Saturday, May 10, 05:58:45pm (NoHost/31.94.74.123)
- Yep, I’ll gladly take it off your hands. (NT) -- Hampton White, Saturday, May 10, 06:30:32pm (NoHost/148.252.156.81)
- Re: Brentford away -- Dave (Antonee Robinson.), Saturday, May 10, 10:43:08pm (NoHost/90.204.0.85)
- Leno -- WayneKerrins, Saturday, May 10, 05:44:07pm (NoHost/31.94.4.198)
Saw the debate earlier. In my view he has declined and isn't justifying the 120k per week best paid Fulham player price tag.
At the Truist Golf today so missed the game but seems he let in another save able shot?
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- It’s worse than that. Anderson is our top paid player. And we gave him a ridiculously long contract. At least we could probably move Leno on if we wanted too. No one would want Anderson. (NT) -- Hg, Saturday, May 10, 05:46:27pm (cpc141402-brnt4-2-0-cust971.4-2.cable.virginm.net/86.9.199.204)
- Leno needs competition for the goalkeeping spot, he has none! (NT) -- John, Saturday, May 10, 05:51:32pm (NoHost/2.222.50.115)
- On the second goal. Could Leno not have just trapped the ball with his foot. (NT) -- Hodds, Sunday, May 11, 09:58:22am (NoHost/82.132.185.219)
- Pathetic -- Depressed, Saturday, May 10, 05:20:20pm (host-78-149-190-10.as13285.net/78.149.190.10)
End to the season. To avoid a relegation fight next season a major overhaul of the squad is necessary. Also it is possible we may also require a new manager.
However I am not convinced we have the necessary expertise at the club to purchase the type of players we require. Indeed if Marco goes the owners should also bring in a director of football with the appropriate expertise.
Another point the building of the new stand seems to have taken an eternity and is still not fully operational. Who allowed this to occur?
I hate to say this but I envy Brighton, Bournemouth and Even Brentford who have all got decent managers and backroom staff and have progressed more than we have.
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- 27,653 -- 25,500 old capaity, Saturday, May 10, 05:11:05pm (ik085229.ikoula.com/185.246.85.229)
attendance is fake!
no way that many ... why do they feel the need to lie?
and if its true.
then Shad knocked down the old stand, built a new one. for what?
to add only 2000 new seats to CC?
things fishy me thinks.. at least its built though! grand.
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- Awful complete farce in our defence school boy stuff we are sleepwalking into disaster next season . Why take smith rowe why bring on TC awful we have been toilet since palace FA cup. Silva needs to either sign or leave the team is stale -- Button, Saturday, May 10, 05:10:52pm (NoHost/185.69.144.99)
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- That was f**king sh!t but... -- Done with this crap, Saturday, May 10, 05:05:26pm (77-174-15-131.fixed.kpn.net/77.174.15.131)
1) how the f**k has the referee not given a foul on Sessegnon rather than the corner they scored from?
2) apparently it's fine for Alcaraz to practically sit on Leno at the corner
3) I guess handballs in the box don't count?
Shocking all round. Silva can do one, as can that ref.
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- Everton ONE win in TEN -- Ffc, Saturday, May 10, 05:04:15pm (host81-140-250-163.range81-140.btcentralplus.com/81.140.250.163)
Then along come soft under belly Fulham
Weak are an ageing, slow ,ponderous team totally devoid of any sort of aggression
If big changes aren’t made in playing personal for next season
we are in big trouble
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- Lacklustre -- Icecreamconey, Saturday, May 10, 04:59:45pm (cpc115212-nmal23-2-0-cust516.19-2.cable.virginm.net/81.109.70.5)
No intention of getting into Europe! Haven’t got the squad, haven’t got the ability to even compete in any European competition. Staying in the premier league a priority. Roll on !
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- Words Fail. -- CB, Saturday, May 10, 04:50:17pm (213-18-167-171.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.167.171)
Started so well. We have to work so hard to score a single goal. Everton have done nothing and got 3. Deja vu Wolves. Relegation form of late. Big changes due this summer for sure.
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- Fantastic season my arse -- Ffc, Saturday, May 10, 04:35:47pm (host81-140-250-163.range81-140.btcentralplus.com/81.140.250.163)
Can’t keep a clean sheet
Can’t hang onto a lead
Midfield can’t score
ESR can’t play more than 60 mins
This team playing like they know the managers off …..
Utter rubbish
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- If only we had a talent idenifier at the Club -- back stick postup, Saturday, May 10, 04:34:56pm (km21001-02.keymachine.de/84.19.182.20)
How many think TK the DOF even watches the matches?
this new assistant coach has been the reason for this decline!
cant even blame ESR for that one, its was that bad
and now a third as Andersen skinned again!
seasons over lads...
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- Time to go Silva. This is unacceptable then again you are off to Spuds so why would you care? -- Jamie, Saturday, May 10, 04:34:12pm (host109-155-195-242.range109-155.btcentralplus.com/109.155.195.242)
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- Gutless and disinterested … been on the beach for a month -- View from the Riverside, Saturday, May 10, 04:34:05pm (NoHost/104.28.86.113)
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- We are shit! -- Harry68, Saturday, May 10, 04:32:00pm (92.40.169.65.threembb.co.uk/92.40.169.65)
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- Wilson poor mans Zoltan / Dempsey -- how manny emoty seats today?, Saturday, May 10, 04:22:19pm (NoHost/185.40.4.100)
Even Ruiz makes the list ahead of Harry
Would put Wilson on par with Inamoto.
He shoots and doesn't score!
Theres 2 fans in the Riverside opening wearing Blue scarfs. Not a sod doing anything about them. Gutless!
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- Another game no clean sheet. These players are pathetic -- Angry, Saturday, May 10, 04:11:20pm (NoHost/109.77.126.58)
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- Typical, Wilson shot deflected wide, up they go deflected shot, equaliser! Not going to make any difference, others will all win. -- Al, Saturday, May 10, 04:00:57pm (NoHost/193.17.86.132)
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- Streams -- WW, Saturday, May 10, 03:20:17pm (host31-104-153-63.range31-104.btcentralplus.com/31.104.153.63)
Anyone have one that is working today?
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- Wouldn’t bother your not missing much (NT) -- bottlers, Saturday, May 10, 03:53:32pm (NoHost/185.81.127.216)
- blacktiestreams -- ., Saturday, May 10, 03:53:39pm (cpc115930-epso6-2-0-cust535.6-3.cable.virginm.net/81.107.246.24)
- Cracking header from raul , but deflected equaliser from corner wrong footed Leno after a bad punch out . (NT) -- It's on, Saturday, May 10, 04:02:51pm (2e409fa8.skybroadband.com/46.64.159.168)
- How many goals do we concede during added on time in both half’s (NT) -- Ffc, Saturday, May 10, 04:20:15pm (host81-140-250-163.range81-140.btcentralplus.com/81.140.250.163)
- Where is Robinson? -- Jamie, Saturday, May 10, 02:12:00pm (NoHost/31.94.28.224)
not on Silva's injured list.
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- A WIN TODAY and -- Sam, Saturday, May 10, 12:10:43pm (a52d356d-661f-470b-b012-9c61c83b968e.fr-par-2.baremetal.scw.cloud/51.159.111.51)
the feeling of pround disaffection from LOSING the FA cup 1/8 to Palace and seeing them play at Wembely, win and now 1 game away from lifting 'what we all thought was OUR trophy'
coupled with THAT loss, not even draw! with Chelscum!
yes these two events have has left many deeply dispairing at what A once otherwise great season has peated out to 11th as we stand and going nowhere!
THAT SAID. A win today against a TEAM with no form and even less to play for... NOW wouldn't that have ALL of US back to BELIEVING at 5p today?
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- Only Fulham know how to celebrate a loss like that -- Crafty Cottager, Saturday, May 10, 11:43:45am (NoHost/94.10.142.164)
Enjoyed a great night at the Cottage last night for the 50th anniversary dinner to celebrate our only FA Cup final appearance. 5 of the Cup Final team there with Gentleman Jim, David Hamilton and a host of old timers like me who were there in 1975. Can't wait for the 50th anniversary of the 2010 Europa Cup final in 2060 !
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- We’re you a fan in the bad old days? These are the comparative glory days. -- HemelRog, Friday, May 09, 10:15:01pm (5ec0f8a7.skybroadband.com/94.192.248.167)
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- Not sure how this got here .Meant for below. (NT) -- HemelRog, Friday, May 09, 10:17:55pm (5ec0f8a7.skybroadband.com/94.192.248.167)
- Its actually a valid and interesting question, deserving of its own thread. I often wonder how many people drastically reduced their interest and attendance as the 70s turner into became the bad old late 80s/90s. I only ever knew Fulham from those worst days onwards, had my longest season ticket and away run the decade from the early 90s to the early 00s. I'm generally much less interested in us when in the Premier League because its crap. Marco, however, has fundamentally changed that. (NT) -- eganonoa, Friday, May 09, 10:27:43pm (NoHost/172.56.3.216)
- I get why people are upset about us just missing out this season, but yes as a 50+ seasons supporter, and a veteran of 1975, Torquay away, Swansea away, Carlisle and Hamburg....I do think sometimes people lack a bit of perspective. (NT) -- GTS, Friday, May 09, 10:34:59pm (0545288c.skybroadband.com/5.69.40.140)
- I used to think that. Not anymore. I’m in the moment as I don’t have time for the past and only a little more for the future. Grateful where we are and don’t have great expectations. Still want us to win every game but know it’s never been feasible. Clubs in best place it’s ever been but it’s still as bloody frustrating As ever. (NT) -- CB, Friday, May 09, 10:49:43pm (213-18-167-171.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.167.171)
- Looking back, I don't consider it the bad old days. I loved the unplanned away days, the unexpected play off pushes. Obviously the Euro run beat all of that, not sure that'll ever be beaten. But now, I find I don't care, if we're squabbling about finishing 8th or 11th, or saying we don't want a euro season coz it may cost a few places next year etc. I don't think I care enough anymore. There's a good chance all 3 promotes sides go.down again next year, it's a bit boring. Just my opinion anyway. (NT) -- Mca, Saturday, May 10, 07:17:09am (NoHost/45.144.57.101)
- Yes, I agree with most of the posters here. I certainly enjoyed generally, it all far more outside the Premier league, which is why I enjoyed Wigan so much this season....the yearly quest just to avoid failure and be mid table feels a bit pointless at times. But my point really was that driving back from Torquay all those years ago, I think I would have been very happy with 8th in the Premiership. (NT) -- GTS, Saturday, May 10, 09:39:00am (0545288c.skybroadband.com/5.69.40.140)
- The comparison should really be with the sixties and our 12 year stint in the old 1st div. Same as now we weren't going to win anything back then and the big clubs dominated as they do now. The difference for me is that it felt more real back then. At the Cottage I constantly hark back to the old days and that includes the so called bad old days. My reason for attending now is because I'm living the past. (NT) -- Hammersmithender, Saturday, May 10, 10:17:17am (NoHost/31.94.74.244)
- I find the football industry as a whole very unappealing these days, but as an old fart going back to the early 60s in terms of watching Fulham the quality of football played by my team is probably higher than ever and am - recent performances apart from- enjoying it immensely. So guess I’m with Alboy on his positivity but not with his intolerance of differing views. (NT) -- Bexhill Beast, Saturday, May 10, 11:55:19am (host31-49-27-255.range31-49.btcentralplus.com/31.49.27.255)
- Been here since 1968 so going straight in at 2.45 was normal, no overcrowding:) Not all good as you had to try & dodge trouble. It was basic but it was Fulham, I was a 3rd generation fan, so none of this picking and choosing a team who won all the time like kids at school..I still think that must be boring and makes them entitled, when we've done it, I think we enjoy it far more. The last 25 years have been unreal & at times fantastic but the reality of Prem life these days just isn't the same. (NT) -- .., Saturday, May 10, 12:08:34pm (host86-190-239-41.range86-190.btcentralplus.com/86.190.239.41)
- My first match, 1968, but an almost ever present at home since 1974. My enthusiasm took a nose dive after Roy left, just as we had had our Euro run. 'twas My epiphany. Talking to my mates 30 year old son, he loves Fulham, loves the fun of getting a train to the games with his mates, having beers, a kebab on the way home and back to our village for the last couple before the bell. I think that My Epiphany is just called getting old & miserable, nothing to do with Fulham at all. -- Glide, Saturday, May 10, 12:24:41pm (NoHost/155.133.17.197)
- Negativity ridiculous -- Alboy, Friday, May 09, 08:32:51pm (host81-141-215-112.range81-141.btcentralplus.com/81.141.215.112)
I reckon most real fans that visit this site must be incredulous seeing the negativity! Promoting rumours that Marco is off with no actual evidence. Why on earth would our owners who have spent fortunes wa t to the lose one of the .ost successful Managers we have had. One who has created a great team spirit and ethic, one who plays great football and one who ha been so successful. Now we have fans telling g us Leno isn't good enough? What game are they watching. Next let's sell Robinson ridiculous! Who next Bassey? Lukic? Muniz?. Let's be a little more positive after a fantastic season. Let's get behind the team tomorrow and show them great support. Let's look forward to some good investment to continue our progress and aim for top 6. We don't get enough recognition in the .media as it is without our fans joining in. We have an amazing club , great supporters having g a great season please show some positivity.
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- Alboy was very positive, but didn't lecture. Honest was very positive, but also kept lecturing. That got too much, and people said so. Alboy has returned, just being positive. But now he's telling people off again. The post about Leno gives facts to suggest his performance was markedly better last season and even better the season before. Personally, I can't pretend my eyes tell differently. They tell the same. I can't see why this should be a forbidden topic of discussion. (NT) -- b+w g., Friday, May 09, 08:44:57pm (host81-159-15-98.range81-159.btcentralplus.com/81.159.15.98)
- Sorry but his saves have won us games . I don't know what you are seeing, we can disagree that's fine but he hasn't missed a game this season which tells you what our Manager thinks about him. (NT) -- Alboy, Friday, May 09, 08:48:23pm (host81-141-215-112.range81-141.btcentralplus.com/81.141.215.112)
- Most of us, I think (and me for sure) are perfectly happy to disagree with each other. If you are too, then that's great. On the particular topic of Leno, leaving yours or my personal impressions aside, there are recorded facts (below) about aspects of his performance a) compared to himself in successive seasons b) compared to his peers. Are those meaningless in your opinion? (NT) -- b+w g., Friday, May 09, 09:03:59pm (host81-159-15-98.range81-159.btcentralplus.com/81.159.15.98)
- One of the things I have never really understood is why such a high premium is placed on keepers saves rather than eg defensive headers or tackles. Just about every save he has made this season I would expect any epl keeper to make - it is simply him doing his job - not sure why his saves are any more important in winning games than any other players contributions (NT) -- f bloke, Friday, May 09, 10:42:15pm (NoHost/90.200.145.126)
- At it again, eh? Sorry for raising a question about a player. I'll quote something I wrote two threads below so you can let me know whether I'm entitled to make future posts about our players: "I 100% believe that next year is going to be special so long as Marco sticks around. To me the squad seems so close and our ability to find value from "used parts" is so good I can't wait to see how surprises us next!" Am I now entitled to post or am I not sufficiently positive? (NT) -- eganonoa, Friday, May 09, 09:17:37pm (pool-108-18-149-21.washdc.fios.verizon.net/108.18.149.21)
- Strange, you profess to know so much about football but you can’t see that Leno has not performed to the standards of previous seasons. Illustrates the total blinkered view you have of our performances. (NT) -- Straw Clutchers Anonymous, Friday, May 09, 09:53:42pm (NoHost/90.205.198.168)
- Has been beaten consistently from long range.Just about everybody can see that with their own eyes.Fantastic first season OK second season.In decline this season.The stats for once agree with the vision and perception. (NT) -- HemelRog, Friday, May 09, 10:06:26pm (5ec0f8a7.skybroadband.com/94.192.248.167)
- Am a season ticket holder of more than 20 years and feel as apathetic as the team looks on the field . If they were a consistent and exciting team maybe I would be pulling the trigger on next season’s ticket but right now I can’t be bothered (NT) -- View from The Riverside, Friday, May 09, 10:09:35pm (NoHost/2.221.140.88)
- This sort of crap and let’s be honest it is. From a fan that cannot see any fault in players or manager or tactics at all. What’s the point in being a supporter if you refuse to make judgments and only make excuses. Leno btw although has been better is not that bad. Where’s the alternative? We have bigger priorities. (NT) -- CB old geezer, Friday, May 09, 10:35:51pm (213-18-167-171.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.167.171)
- Surely if Spurs get champions league they can attract a lot higher calibre manager than Ange or Marco (NT) -- Waterboy, Friday, May 09, 11:01:14pm (NoHost/84.67.210.3)
- Time to replace Leno? -- eganonoa, Friday, May 09, 04:42:46pm (pool-108-18-149-21.washdc.fios.verizon.net/108.18.149.21)
I think it might be time to say goodbye to Leno. There have been good arguments made on here that our No. 1 priority signing of the summer would be a set-piece coach. It could be argued that our second priority should be a new keeper. Here are three goalkeeping stats that help make that argument:
1. Post-Shot Expected Goals - Goals Allowed: A convoluted stat, but the gist is you look at how many goals would have been expected to have been scored and subtract the actual number of goals scored. By this metric, we're 2.5 goals worse off because of Leno's shot stopping this year. We're 5th worst, down with the relegation clubs and two clubs who have massively under-performed this year: Brighton and Wolves (the two worst). By contrast Bournemouth are right at the top, miles ahead of everyone else, with their goalie stopping 10 goals that were expected to be scored! Other clubs that are doing well from their goalie include Forest and Palace.
2. Crosses Stopped %age -- This is the percentage of crosses into the penalty areas which were successfully stopped by the goalie. We are 3rd worst here, with only West Ham and Forest with keepers less able to stop shots as poorly as Leno. He's successfully stopped just 4.3% of crosses. By contract the likes of Arsenal and Villa are up at 12.8% and 10.5% respectively, probably one reason they do so well at defending set-pieces.
3. Defensive Actions Outside the Penalty Area ("Sweeper Actions") -- This is the keeper acting as a sweeper. We've all talked at length this week about Andersen's biggest weakness, his pace, and the need to have someone to cover him. Well Leno is absolutely not helping here! We rank 4th worst in the league, with Leno contributing just 0.8 such actions per 90 minutes. By contrast, Newcastle (1.91), Arsenal (1.71) and Bournemouth (1.69) keepers are giving them twice what we are getting from Leno.
Overall our defense ranks 3rd in the league in Expected Goals Against (the number of goals we would be expected to concede) and a big chunk of that appears to come from Leno. The sad thing is that this appears to not just be a one-off poor season, but a steady decline from him. In 2022/23 he had a Post-Shot Expected Goals of +9.1, meaning he stopped 9.1 more goals than expected, and we ranked 1st in the league in this metric. Last season we dropped to the middle in this metric, letting in 1.3 more goals than expected. In 2022/23 we ranked in the upper middle of the league in crosses stopped percentage, stopping 7.6% of crosses. Then last season we dropped to 2nd bottom with just 4.0%, around where we are today. Similarly, in 2022/23 we ranked in the upper-middle of the pack in goalie sweeper actions with 1.26 per 90, dropping to the lower-middle with 1.05 per 90 last season, before cratering to the bottom this season.
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- It should say "a big chunk of the difference appears to come from Leno". In other words, but for Leno the stats indicate we'd have one of the top three defenses in the league. (NT) -- eganonoa, Friday, May 09, 04:45:29pm (pool-108-18-149-21.washdc.fios.verizon.net/108.18.149.21)
- Replace him? Who with / with whom? Benda is expendable so get rid & bring in an understudy. Weren’t we awash with young academy starlets a few seasons ago? Nah, forgive the pun, but Leno is a keeper. (NT) -- Bad Boy, Friday, May 09, 05:32:17pm (NoHost/2.222.160.125)
- The first stat is difficult to get me head around, is it expected goals - actual goals? Not a massive stats evangelist anyway but surely there is more at play than just the keeper? I think it’s easy to get carried away with stats as just up and selling our very solid keeper is reckless even if there is room for improvement (NT) -- FF, Friday, May 09, 05:58:02pm (82-132-215-202.dab.02.net/82.132.215.202)
- Whatever we think of those various metrics, just comparing like with like, the change for the worse this season is stark. Berndt has for sure been one of our better goalies since Macedo, and a good egg too. So was Schwarzer, whose form also dropped off seriously in his last season. Conveniently, his contract was up by then, I think, which Berndt's isn't. (NT) -- b+w g., Friday, May 09, 06:31:47pm (host81-159-15-98.range81-159.btcentralplus.com/81.159.15.98)
- Re: Time to replace Leno? Absolute rubbish Leno has been brilliant for us made some great saves that kept us in games. Firstly name on Marco's team sheet. (NT) -- Alboy, Friday, May 09, 08:15:48pm (host81-141-215-112.range81-141.btcentralplus.com/81.141.215.112)
- Re: Time to replace Leno?🤐🤪🙃😃😂💯😂 Forums ultimate wum? (NT) -- V, Friday, May 09, 08:18:26pm (NoHost/46.233.91.118)
- Silve says he's staying on the official FFC website... -- G, Friday, May 09, 04:37:25pm (NoHost/90.213.242.75)
"“Of course, there are always rumours, but what I can say to you right now is that my future is at Fulham Football Club next season.”
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- So he's off then. He's saying that "right now". But in a few weeks time, he'll be saying something different... (NT) -- G, Friday, May 09, 04:38:57pm (NoHost/90.213.242.75)
- So he has next season and then leaves why would we buy players he wants when he is leaving in a years time (NT) -- Button, Friday, May 09, 06:01:35pm (nmal-23-b2-v4wan-169190-cust1261.vm24.cable.virginm.net/80.5.116.238)
- Unfortunately in football word means nothing I think most fans should just enjoy the summer and ignore all speculation regarding him and players and wait and see what we have in August (NT) -- enjoytheweather, Friday, May 09, 09:34:58pm (NoHost/185.111.157.102)
- He said that about Palhinha (NT) -- Waterboy, Friday, May 09, 10:59:49pm (NoHost/84.67.210.3)
- NFR - off to Wembley Sunday to watch Whitstable -- Mumbles, Friday, May 09, 02:51:50pm (NoHost/2.125.10.30)
Last time I was there it was one of the happiest days of my life.
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- Early team news no Muniz , Lukic , Castagne, Reed for tomorrow -- Button, Friday, May 09, 02:41:10pm (nmal-23-b2-v4wan-169190-cust1261.vm24.cable.virginm.net/80.5.116.238)
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- Big interview with Sasa Lukic in Evening Standard... -- G, Friday, May 09, 02:14:16pm (NoHost/90.213.242.75)
<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/sasa-lukic-interview-fulham-qualify-europe-b1226766.html">https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/sasa-lukic-interview-fulham-qualify-europe-b1226766.html</a>
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- Nice. Not sure I share his optimism about making it into Europe this season. But I 100% believe that next year is going to be special so long as Marco sticks around. To me the squad seems so close and our ability to find value from "used parts" is so good I can't wait to see how surprises us next! (NT) -- eganonoa, Friday, May 09, 03:26:23pm (pool-108-18-149-21.washdc.fios.verizon.net/108.18.149.21)
- I would imagine Brentford will beat ipswich and us, that will give them 8th (NT) -- Waterboy, Friday, May 09, 03:29:40pm (NoHost/84.67.210.3)
- All these middling clubs with better managers than Silva: Brentford, Brighton, Bournemouth, Palace... (NT) -- Could we do better than Silva??, Friday, May 09, 04:34:55pm (NoHost/90.213.242.75)
- Smokescreen ? -- MLC, Friday, May 09, 11:08:17am (NoHost/140.248.40.40)
Is the Silva link the above?
Possibility of Champions League football at Spurs & improving on their current league form of this season not a win win for Marco!
I would rather him manage any other team in this country than them!
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- Saudi link being The Smokescreen. (NT) -- MLC, Friday, May 09, 11:10:57am (NoHost/146.75.174.28)
- Or is the smokescreen that it’s his agent creating something out of nothing as he has a year left and wants to have some leverage for a new contract. (NT) -- Henry1879, Friday, May 09, 11:22:35am (82-132-220-37.dab.02.net/82.132.220.37)
- I didn't pay a great deal of attention to previous rumours, but wasn't it claimed that he held talks with United and Al-hilal as well as clubs back in Portugal? If thats true, it would appear that he has been fidgeting to leave for a while. His track record seems to support a proclivity for being a rolling stone, so the chances are he'll move on given the right incentive and his stock is now reasonably high, despite our recent capitulation when the pressure is on. (NT) -- Samuel, Friday, May 09, 11:41:07am (NoHost/81.78.226.36)
- Copied and pasted from 'That's so Craven' -- Mr Kurkuruza, Friday, May 09, 12:06:02pm (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
- Re: Silva has agreed to take over at Bayer Leverkusen (NT) -- Harry Bayles, Friday, May 09, 01:20:37pm (NoHost/136.226.168.200)
- DIOP -- david (woolf), Thursday, May 08, 05:33:21pm (cpc1-finc17-2-0-cust2500.4-2.cable.virginm.net/82.19.233.197)
WHERE IS DIOP???
With Castagne out and Robinson playing with an injury why is Mr Diop not even on the bench. Wouldnt be surprised if Anderson is injured as he's a snail pace .
The only consolation is Europe gone . 3 games a week would spell disaster.
Without good recruitment we are in schtuck.
Fulhamish at least won't moan about tickets prices in the championshite
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- In the words of Toyah’ it’s a mystery’ (NT) -- CB, Friday, May 09, 08:07:21am (213-18-167-171.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.167.171)
- 2009-10 season says 3 games a week AREN'T a disaster, in fact quite the contrary. Footballers play football every day in training you know!! (NT) -- Roy's ghost, Friday, May 09, 09:02:35am (NoHost/90.213.242.75)
- (G)Issa (NT) -- game, Friday, May 09, 10:35:30am (host31-49-27-255.range31-49.btcentralplus.com/31.49.27.255)
- Josh King, injured? (NT) -- Al, Friday, May 09, 10:58:25am (NoHost/193.17.86.132)
- didn't he come on as a late sub a couple of weeks or so ago? (NT) -- .., Friday, May 09, 05:06:32pm (host86-190-239-41.range86-190.btcentralplus.com/86.190.239.41)
- German paper SportBILD has done a piece on the '10 worst signings of the season' -- Funny, Thursday, May 08, 12:12:56pm (NoHost/90.213.242.75)
Joao Palhinha made it into the list!
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- Credit to Tony Khan ripping off one of Europe's biggest clubs!! (NT) -- Funny, Thursday, May 08, 12:17:19pm (NoHost/90.213.242.75)
- Perhaps we could open a new drinking establishment in the Riverside stand and call it the 'Bayern Munich Bar' after all the paid for half of it! (NT) -- Quids in!, Thursday, May 08, 12:19:10pm (NoHost/90.213.242.75)
- Indeed, trouble is one of our rivals will probably get him back in the Premier League for half what Bayern paid... (NT) -- Rupert, Thursday, May 08, 12:40:21pm (5ec14d8b.skybroadband.com/94.193.77.139)
- How many signings did they make season ? Nine ? (NT) -- alanos, Thursday, May 08, 03:20:23pm (82-132-213-104.dab.02.net/82.132.213.104)
- Doubt he will go for half what we paid for him so Bayern will have to loan him out to get him playing in order to get anywhere near half what they paid for him. Its not going to happen but a midfield of Berge and Pallinha would be immense.. imo (NT) -- FF, Thursday, May 08, 07:20:45pm (82-132-214-73.dab.02.net/82.132.214.73)
- Re: German paper SportBILD has done a piece on the '10 worst signings of the season' (NT) -- It always worried me how awful he was for Portugal, Thursday, May 08, 08:24:37pm (host-2-102-161-56.as13285.net/2.102.161.56)
- Re: German paper SportBILD has done a piece on the '10 worst signings of the season' (NT) -- The Peter Baah Bar sounds better, Thursday, May 08, 08:27:03pm (host-2-102-161-56.as13285.net/2.102.161.56)
- Don’t get this bitterness towards Palhinha,gave 100% even after his transfer to Bayern fell through. (NT) -- Jack, Thursday, May 08, 09:27:43pm (host31-127-215-3.range31-127.btcentralplus.com/31.127.215.3)
- a 'mercenary' who played as well for us after his initial deal fell through as he did before (NT) -- .., Friday, May 09, 05:11:34pm (host86-190-239-41.range86-190.btcentralplus.com/86.190.239.41)
- Any Tickle Your Fancy ! -- 🤫, Thursday, May 08, 09:15:54am (a172-225-176-94.deploy.static.akamaitechnologies.com/172.225.176.94)
Southgate ? Dyche ? Roger’s ? Cooper ? Lampard ? O’Neil ?
Jose ? Ancellotti ? Jesus ? Rafa ? Allegri ? Poch ? Xavi ? Zidane ? Ten Hag ? Low ?
Imagine the meltdown if Dyche or Southgate let alone Lampard were linked?
Rogers of the British contingent ?
Poch or Xavi would be interesting?
Jesus or Jose would be carnage ?
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- Of that lot just Rodgers would be both acceptable and realistic. We are not in a position to gamble at this juncture in our history, so would need someone with experience and the respect of the dressing room. Meanwhile, hoping the rumours are just that, he has walked out before and that turned out well... (NT) -- Rupert, Thursday, May 08, 10:26:10am (5ec14d8b.skybroadband.com/94.193.77.139)
- Poch has has the 2026 world cup before he becomes available but definitely would have been a good one. Dyche and Southgate would probably keep you up but bore you to tears in the process (NT) -- Waterboy, Thursday, May 08, 10:33:28am (lanc-08-b2-v4wan-168332-cust3678.vm14.cable.virginm.net/80.5.238.95)
- The football might not be to our preference but Jose would tick a lot of boxes in terms of huge experience and success in the premier League. He'd instantly have the respect of players too. The obvious problem would potentially be the behind the scenes power struggle..Two massive egos colliding. Zidane would be quite an exciting option, but it's doubtful he'd even consider us for a second. It'll probably end up being Gerrard or Rooney. (NT) -- Samuel, Thursday, May 08, 11:14:53am (NoHost/81.78.226.36)
- Re: Any Tickle Your Fancy ! (NT) -- What about Liam Rosenoir, Thursday, May 08, 11:41:00am (host-2-102-161-56.as13285.net/2.102.161.56)
- I'm hoping that if Silva leaves, the club can come up with a 'left field' candidate. If Brentford, Bournemouth, Brighton and to a lesser extent Palace can do it, why can't we? (NT) -- Straw Clutchers Anonymous, Thursday, May 08, 12:14:34pm (NoHost/90.205.198.168)
- I think I'll stick to Silva actually. (NT) -- GTS, Thursday, May 08, 04:39:16pm (24.206.97.74.netskope-rdns.com/24.206.97.74)
- Boa :) but dont think Marco is going... (NT) -- FF, Thursday, May 08, 06:31:01pm (static.67.176.161.5.clients.your-server.de/5.161.176.67)
- Brendan Rodgers? No, thank you. Was found out at Liverpool, didn’t/couldn’t get the best out of good players; trod water with Leicester (his handiwork contributed to recent relegations); only success is in the northern pub league, wherein I could manage Celtic (NT) -- Andrew in Bath, Thursday, May 08, 06:40:46pm (NoHost/90.210.119.115)
- Apologies - should have done my homework (NT) -- Andrew in Bath, Friday, May 09, 11:25:02am (NoHost/90.210.119.115)
- A gem unearthed? -- Chelsea Hardman, Thursday, May 08, 09:10:20am (NoHost/167.172.183.6)
GARY Rowett says midfielder Alex Matos will not be in a rush to make a decision on his future following the end of his loan spell at Oxford United.
Matos joined the U’s on loan from Chelsea during the January transfer window and made a big impression in the midfield engine room.
The 20-year-old featured 21 times in all competitions for United, including 10 starts in Sky Bet Championship.
Matos was utilised in his arguably more natural holding midfield role, while U’s head coach Rowett also used the loanee in the No 10 position, with Matos acting as an aggressive ball-winner high up the pitch.
It was in that role that Matos put in two of his best displays in a United shirt, away at Sheffield Wednesday and at home to Leeds United.
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- Timo Castagne ..... Well done. great team man. -- Lovely Weather, Thursday, May 08, 07:58:28am (2e409fa8.skybroadband.com/46.64.159.168)
Fulham full back Timothy Castagne will miss the final few weeks of the season after successfully undergoing ankle surgery earlier this week.
The Belgian international had played with tears in his ankle ligaments for the past four months after Marco Silva lost the services of Dutch right back Kenny Tete in December. Castagne posted a picture of his bandaged right foot on Instagram earlier this afternoon, with the following caption:
“Happy the surgery went well. I’ve struggled with tears in ankle for four months now. I’ve tried my best to continue but it was getting worse. Tough to leave the team and miss national team in such an important time. Looking forward to finally being myself next season!”
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- Great player -- Cycling jay, Thursday, May 08, 07:46:10am (NoHost/167.172.183.6)
Tributes are pouring in for a former Fulham and AFC Wimbledon goalkeeper who died suddenly at the young age of 37.
Corrin Brooks-Meade, who made 23 appearances for the Montserrat national team, died on April 5 after spending a month in a coma.
The news of his death is only now being shared by grieving teammates.
The footballer had suffered an unexpected stroke and bleed on the brain on March 5, which sent his body into the prolonged period of unconsciousness before he tragically passed away.
The 37-year-old had been living in Cyprus after retiring from club football - but was still playing internationally and would likely have featured in Montserrat's CONCACAF World Cup Qualifiers next month.
After the shock death of his teammate, Montserrat captain and Colchester United striker Lyle Taylor has paid an emotional tribute to Corrin, saying his death is the 'hardest thing he has dealt with in football'.
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- We need a statement from the club as season tickets are going on sale on Monday and Silva looks like he is off I will not renew until I know who the manger is going to be -- Button, Wednesday, May 07, 11:46:38pm (NoHost/185.69.144.113)
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- Hilarious. (NT) -- GA, Thursday, May 08, 01:31:59am (ool-18b90125.dyn.optonline.net/24.185.1.37)
- Bye Bye (NT) -- Pablo, Thursday, May 08, 08:03:27am (host81-153-166-111.range81-153.btcentralplus.com/81.153.166.111)
- So Button on this forum equals Ray Rock on FoF. Good to know. (NT) -- Club Stooge, Thursday, May 08, 09:09:53am (host86-145-9-192.range86-145.btcentralplus.com/86.145.9.192)
- The price of shares may go down as well as up. (NT) -- Ronnie Gibson's Pedantic Elbow, Thursday, May 08, 09:52:38am (cpc107643-gill19-2-0-cust94.20-1.cable.virginm.net/81.105.102.95)
- Whilst I can see your point, more important for me is, if the players are unsure who the manager will be next season, how will they react for the last 3 games? If they know he's going, I suspect they'll already be on the beach. (NT) -- Straw Clutcher Anonymous, Thursday, May 08, 01:50:30pm (NoHost/90.205.198.168)
- Silva and the Club can still evolve its way out of this Andersen/ESR mess. -- d v d, Wednesday, May 07, 04:32:01pm (07417cc5-0862-4985-a2a1-ab4548e30492.fr-par-2.baremetal.scw.cloud/51.159.194.246)
Read SoS's appraisal of the Clubs current FFP situation.
So assuming we are stuck with 'the pair' for next season.
Makes sense to plan our summer recruitment around having both Joa and Emile as key parts.
Now what do we know?
Andersen needs to play in a CB-3. Palace knew this, now we do!
Solution: find a rightsided version of Bassey. Who'll in time replace Andersen as the RCB.
ESR? If we playing with 3 CB's then we'll have 2 Wing backs providing the width.
That then allows for ESR and others like Emile to play more centrally in a Gera/Malbranqe role.
So Focus on Wingbacks and then Decide if we playing with 2 CF's or 1 CF with 2 Attacking Mids (like ESR) behind him.
Recruit around this plan and last summers failures could become A strength. I'd go 2 CF's myself. One with pace.
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- Yawn at it again (NT) -- alanos, Wednesday, May 07, 11:29:27pm (82-132-213-90.dab.02.net/82.132.213.90)
- Dont really see the fuss about Andersen, we had a better defence this season than previous and dont forget we havent been more than a goal up in many games this season, the defence has been under pressure for 90 mins of most games, no wonder they have eventuallly cracked. The problem is the other end (NT) -- Waterboy, Thursday, May 08, 09:07:27am (NoHost/84.67.210.3)
- Re: Silva and the Club can still evolve its way out of this Andersen/ESR mess. (NT) -- Wouldn’t rule out MS leaving not that League., Thursday, May 08, 11:48:50am (host-2-102-161-56.as13285.net/2.102.161.56)
- Rumours that Silva has agree to join Al-Hilal (Mitrovic's team)... -- dd, Wednesday, May 07, 11:40:06am (host81-133-110-86.in-addr.btopenworld.com/81.133.110.86)
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- Re: if true.. then makes sense. Silvas been at 4 Pl sides now, spread over 10+ years. Failed to reach his aim. top 8 and UEFA football. He's given it A GO. Other teams have watched offered him a chance. After all this time. ITS CLEAR Silva isn't the next Portugese genius, he isnt a top manager. Time for Silva to CASH in himself while he still can. Go take the Oil money enjoy retirement... (NT) -- arent the top of league?, Wednesday, May 07, 11:48:33am (NoHost/95.214.53.28)
- Yep, Everton News are now also claiming that Silva has accepted the job. I fully expect him to leave this summer but a move to Al-hilal lacks ambition but I guess in 4 years he will still be a reasonably young man and can return to professional management with £100 mill in the bank. Leaving us with Anderson and ESR is however a shitty thing to do after pushing the club to waste all that money on a couple of journeymen. Hope he takes them with him. (NT) -- Samuel, Wednesday, May 07, 12:20:39pm (NoHost/81.78.226.36)
- Oh my God, if "Everton News" is reporting it, then clearly it is game over....it is the website I go to for all FFC news.... (NT) -- GTS, Wednesday, May 07, 12:28:38pm (24.206.97.74.netskope-rdns.com/24.206.97.74)
- Thought he would want to link up with Richarlison again (NT) -- Waterboy, Wednesday, May 07, 12:37:25pm (NoHost/84.67.210.3)
- On the radio earlier a Saudi football reporter reckons they want a big name coach and player in before club World Cup, Bruno being mentioned from Utd for absurd money, inzaghi from inter their #1 choice and silva the fall back if inzaghi doesn’t work. It wouldn’t surprise me to be honest, nuno went, earned loads and came back, it’s not ridiculous to suggest we aren’t far off our ceiling given the FFP environment, he may think there’s not a huge amount left he can do. (NT) -- Henry1879, Wednesday, May 07, 04:20:03pm (cpc113812-lea23-2-0-cust213.6-3.cable.virginm.net/86.26.216.214)
- Brentford Away Sold out on 1100 points - I think the club wanted to see how many points were sold by starting with 1500 or more and going down by 100 each day. -- D block, Wednesday, May 07, 11:34:58am (NoHost/2.220.204.91)
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- Just a gut feeling... -- dd, Wednesday, May 07, 09:36:44am (host81-133-110-86.in-addr.btopenworld.com/81.133.110.86)
But I think Silva's off.
The last few performances (after beating Liverpool) just seem inexplicably flat.
Sometimes you just get a sense that something's off. My guess would be that players have got wind of something and, call it what you like, discipline/motivation levels have just dropped off.
Hope I'm wrong and we're about to see three barnstorming performances in the remaining matches, but I think, in general, if footballers know they can coast a little they will...
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- There's an article from Football Insider regarding Silva's alleged interest in the Tottenham job which would support your suspicions. If you haven't already read it, just Google: Silva to Tottenham and it should come up. (NT) -- Samuel, Wednesday, May 07, 10:05:54am (NoHost/81.78.226.36)
- Maybe. Maybe not. I don't trust Ali Mac to build a squad and get a new manager embedded in a timely manner (NT) -- Angry, Wednesday, May 07, 10:21:27am (NoHost/109.76.81.113)
- On one of the other FFC message boards a poster who says he gets info from a journo says Silva will take the Spurs job if offerrred, but will not consider a move to Saudi Arabia. (NT) -- Mr Kurkuruza, Wednesday, May 07, 10:47:25am (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
- Re: Just a gut feeling...; The players gave everything at Villa even with ten men. Don't believe this for one minute. Marco is building something special here a d should be applauded. (NT) -- Alboy, Wednesday, May 07, 10:49:10am (ec2-18-133-228-127.eu-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com/18.133.228.127)
- You can’t say that on here! Alboy/Honest and Uncle Tom Cobley won’t sleep? (NT) -- MLC, Wednesday, May 07, 10:50:58am (NoHost/104.28.86.109)
- Media claptrap as they have nothing else to run with. (NT) -- Birdman, Wednesday, May 07, 11:06:34am (NoHost/37.72.152.33)
- The Chelsea game killed any thoughts of Europe, completely knocked the stuffing out of the team, thankfully we played one of the worst ever Prem teams and just scraped a win, a point saturday and thats our lot (NT) -- The RealStanTheMan, Wednesday, May 07, 12:23:48pm (NoHost/195.59.114.72)
- Maybe he’s taken us as far as he can (NT) -- Hodds Sutton, Wednesday, May 07, 01:05:31pm (82-132-235-23.dab.02.net/82.132.235.23)
- Just seen this on another site and it is shocking reading makes this summer’s transfer window critical -- Button, Tuesday, May 06, 05:27:36pm (nmal-23-b2-v4wan-169190-cust1261.vm24.cable.virginm.net/80.5.116.238)
Premier league goals
Bassey 1 goal Anderson 0 Diop 0 Lukic 0 Berge 0 PEREIRA 2
CASTAGNE/ Tete 0 Robinson 0
This is where the problems are 3 goals from 8 players in 35 games. 1 goal from our centre backs must mean our set pieces are toilet
O goals from our central midfield pairing awful
Not 1 goal from the fullback position
2 goals from our dynamic all action central attacking N10
Not great numbers at all needs addressing in the summer window
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- Do we blame the players or do we blame the coach ? -- Gary Elkins Shin Pad, Tuesday, May 06, 05:39:21pm (NoHost/2.220.40.27)
- And here's the rebuttal of that argument, from the same site. Forest, who I'd imagine are having a good season in your view has a similar spread of goals (scored 4 more than us). Gibbs White has 5 goals. Elanga 6, Hudson Odoi 5, Anderson 2,Silva 3, Wood 19. ESR has 6, Iwobi9, Wilson 5, Sess 4, AP 2, Raul/Muniz combined 23. Yes we'd love more from CM, yes the defence should have more than 3 between them. We're not that unlike teams around us. (Don't let facts confuse prejudice eh?) (NT) -- Mr No Name, Tuesday, May 06, 05:53:44pm (host86-166-64-159.range86-166.btcentralplus.com/86.166.64.159)
- I don’t care what Nottingham Forest do these stats are a joke 0 goals from central midfield 1 goal from a defender. This transfer window is going to be critical (NT) -- Button, Tuesday, May 06, 06:01:27pm (nmal-23-b2-v4wan-169190-cust1261.vm24.cable.virginm.net/80.5.116.238)
- Good post! (NT) -- Ray Rock, Tuesday, May 06, 06:33:31pm (NoHost/148.252.145.14)
- Re: Just seen this on another site and it is shocking reading makes this summer’s transfer window critical (NT) -- Harvey Barnes & Brian the Brentwood lad, Tuesday, May 06, 06:50:05pm (host-2-102-161-56.as13285.net/2.102.161.56)
- Yep. Goals are gold dust. So what did Marco do at Villa? He gave Iwobi, Wilson & Sess an early 2nd half exit. That’s 18 goals & 10 assists between them this season. That has to be a huge blunder and one that may well have cost us top 8. (NT) -- Bad Boy, Tuesday, May 06, 06:51:41pm (NoHost/2.222.160.125)
- Yes. The central midfield numbers are horrible. 2 shots all season from Berge, which is quite incredible. On the central defenders, this has so much to do with how bad we've become at set-pieces (both ways). We really need to sort that out. The full-backs I'd love to have one who can score goals, Robinson's big weakness. Maybe if Robinson leaves, Sess becomes the answer there. (NT) -- eganonoa, Tuesday, May 06, 07:03:55pm (pool-108-18-149-21.washdc.fios.verizon.net/108.18.149.21)
- To make matters worst, Leno has only kept 5 clean sheets and has conceded more goals from shots from outside the box then any other side , including those relegated. (NT) -- MWKent, Tuesday, May 06, 08:04:20pm (host-81-86-162-36.as13285.net/81.86.162.36)
- Amazingly Perreira hasn't scored at the cottage since we played Leeds in April 2023 (NT) -- Waterboy, Tuesday, May 06, 08:10:28pm (NoHost/148.252.146.156)
- It might well have been just a ‘throw away line’ but I can remember one of our players saying that Marco is not too keen on us taking shots from outside the penalty area as he believes that it is far better to keep possession. I must admit that many times Sander has been in a good position to shoot but he always decides not to at the last moment. As a new addition this season, he may be less willing to defy the coaches than a more established player, such as Tom, Alex or Harry would be! (NT) -- Ted White, Wednesday, May 07, 12:44:48am (host86-178-46-130.range86-178.btcentralplus.com/86.178.46.130)
- Set pieces is a lot to do with coaching, our team is big, there’s no reason palace/villa or anyone else should be better than us at them. It’s a great leveller against good teams, but we have been so poor from them all season. particularly dissapointed with Anderson, he’s our big ball winning CB, you’d expect 3-4 goals from him, it’s a huge weakness, good news it should be easily fixable without spending much money. B.mouth 2-1 arsenal, 2 set pieces, villa 1 FFC 0, a set piece. (NT) -- Henry1879, Wednesday, May 07, 09:14:13am (cpc113812-lea23-2-0-cust213.6-3.cable.virginm.net/86.26.216.214)
- What this poster is portraying is wishful thinking that involves could've should've which while natural is literally bloody pointless. Look mate, we would be over the moon and amazed to secure Europe from this point. But as a true Fulham realist, what are the odds? I'm already at the Summer break and those 3 wonder signings which hopefully is more likely. Or am I being too optimistic? -- CB, Tuesday, May 06, 03:10:38pm (213-18-164-18.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.164.18)
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- (Fulham) Palace Road, take me home -- FFC, Sunday, May 04, 04:41:55pm (unn-84-17-43-122.cdn77.com/84.17.43.122)
Palace Road, take me home
To the place, I belong
Craven Cottage, by the river
Take me home, Palace Road
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- What about Stevenage Road? (NT) -- Mr Kurkuruza, Sunday, May 04, 04:49:58pm (NoHost/84.67.25.197)
- "It's our Home, Our lovely Home, The place where we belong,Craven Cottage by the River, It's our Home, Our lovely Home". No reference to Al Fayed taking us back to the Cottage, because that's past history. (NT) -- MWKent, Sunday, May 04, 05:57:00pm (host-81-86-162-36.as13285.net/81.86.162.36)
- Take me home, Transport for London, to the place where I belong, Craven Cottage, by the river, take me home, TFL (NT) -- Brussels Sprout, Wednesday, May 07, 01:55:39pm (NoHost/217.196.229.79)
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Meanwhile, on the official, Alistair Mackintosh named "Premier League CEO of the Year" at the Football Business Awards. Who to believe? (NT) -- Confused, Tuesday, May 13, 02:07:27pm (host81-133-110-86.in-addr.btopenworld.com/81.133.110.86)
I worked out a 2.8% rise when I received the e-mail and they've rounded the total up. Costing me 2p more, obviously every penny counts. (NT) -- Ronnie Gibson's Pedantic Elbow, Tuesday, May 13, 12:25:34pm (cpc107643-gill19-2-0-cust94.20-1.cable.virginm.net/81.105.102.95)
Re: Jesus …..he can’t hit a cows arse. that maybee. but if true. we looking for PACE which is badly needed . but also leaves the question? Vinny had 'pace' yet Marco ditched him for Jimmy and Muniz. So whoses signing the players this summer? (NT) -- left winger or CF, Sunday, May 11, 11:59:50am (NoHost/195.3.220.76)