- Wars over!! so why are we still BOMBbarded with 24/7 coverage of POOR Palistains and POOR Isrealis and POOR Syrians??? GO HOME! LEAVE UK! -- sadd, Monday, January 20, 06:42:14pm (exit-01.tor.r0cket.net/45.84.107.198)
starmer fails us!
this is why GERMAN, FRANCE and ITALY all voting BNP now
Trump has the right apprach!
go home!!! AT LEAST stop moaning on news channels!!!
FFS makes chelseav wolves ..Andre watch! doable!
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- https://www.manchester.ac.uk/about/news/study-identifies-illicit-finance-risks-in-premier-league-club-ownership-structures/ -- eurovision, Monday, January 20, 01:50:16pm (onion-exit.stagingdomain.name/107.189.1.160)
17January2025Study identifies illicit finance risks in Premier League club ownership structures
Written by: Joe Stafford
The Premier League is currently vulnerable to new investors and team owners who could have sourced their wealth from illicit activities.
That’s according to a new peer-reviewed paper which is the latest to raise concerns about the competition’s Owners' and Directors' Test – colloquially known as the ‘Fit and Proper’ test – saying “complex and opaque structures permit the misuse of EPL club ownership for the channelling of illicit finances”.
Criminology experts from The University of Manchester, who led the study, say their findings demonstrate “conditions which are known to be associated with the use of organisational structures for illicit activities in the ownership structures of many EPL clubs”.
Such conditions include the “widespread use of various legal entities and traditional ‘secrecy’ jurisdictions” that can hide who owners and investors are, as well as the presence of unnecessarily complex arrangements, and an absence of information on who all the owners actually are.
They state the current Owners’ and Directors’ Test does not do enough to prevent potential new owners and investors from withholding the source of their funds, “which could be from illicit activities”.
word limit means the rest cannot be posted. link in subject short and long is Fulham very lcky to have SHAD KHAN AS SOLE OWNER!
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- Hmm...not sure why the last post was deleted? But question still stands... -- m, Monday, January 20, 12:45:57pm (host81-133-110-86.in-addr.btopenworld.com/81.133.110.86)
Al Fayed reportedly paid £6.25 million for FFC in 1997. Was asking why it was 'only' £6.25m after the Royal Bank of Scotland had set an asking price of £8m for Craven Cottage alone a few years previously?
Was wondering if any of the old-timers knew? I could be missing part of the story, thanks.
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- How embarrassing ! -- MLC, Monday, January 20, 08:11:34am (a172-226-183-68.deploy.static.akamaitechnologies.com/172.226.183.68)
Would it be if this current Man Utd team did the double over us !!
We might be the only team left this season for them to achieve or there are not many other teams they can claim 6 points from?
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- Their manager has come out and said “this is maybe the worst Man Utd team in history”… nothing like building a team’s confidence going forward. (NT) -- Straw Clutchers Anonymous, Monday, January 20, 08:47:33am (NoHost/90.196.12.62)
- You must be easily embarrassed. (NT) -- HemelRog, Monday, January 20, 09:31:15am (5ec0f8a7.skybroadband.com/94.192.248.167)
- Hmmm. I'd argue that only 'Little Fulham-ers' would not be embarassed by failing to beat Man Utd. (NT) -- m, Monday, January 20, 09:42:07am (host81-133-110-86.in-addr.btopenworld.com/81.133.110.86)
- Losing to Maldon and Tiptree United would be embarassing, losing to a team in the same division is more irritating I would suggest. (NT) -- GTS, Monday, January 20, 09:46:05am (static-customer-assignment.goskope.com/24.206.97.74)
- Fulham and Everton the only two Premier League teams who have failed to either score against, or take a point off, Man Utd this season. Embarassing! (NT) -- m, Monday, January 20, 10:07:38am (host81-133-110-86.in-addr.btopenworld.com/81.133.110.86)
- You couldn’t have supported the club long.Hayes,Chester and Port Vale were not a great look.All due respect to any club though. (NT) -- Blackpool Beach Rog, Monday, January 20, 10:32:44am (5ec0f8a7.skybroadband.com/94.192.248.167)
- But Fulham one of only two teams to take points off of Liverpool and Arsenal this season. Does that help your embarrassment? Getting pumped 6-1 at home to P Vale was embarrassing, or 7 nil at Chester or knocked out by Yeovil. Failing to beat one of the most expensively assembled teams in the world won't rank that high on the scale. (NT) -- Jim© The Devon IP, Monday, January 20, 10:51:28am (62-64-192-58.virtual1.co.uk/62.64.192.58)
- Embarrassment only happens when you care what other people think. Why do you care what other people think of Fulham results? We’ve never won anything and regularly break up poor runs. We’ve are not a club for the insecure! (NT) -- ASPT, Monday, January 20, 06:32:28pm (114-129-187-208.ip4.superloop.au/114.129.187.208)
- Re: How embarrassing ! (NT) -- Man Utd writing on the wall when we played them, Monday, January 20, 10:23:14am (host-217-8-22-33.as13285.net/217.8.22.33)
- We have been pretty unlucky against them, 2 very late 1 nil defeats over the last 2 seasons. Good win away last year and very tight again back on 1st day of the season (another of those should have won games!) (NT) -- Waterboy, Monday, January 20, 05:16:00pm (NoHost/81.79.89.125)
- Why did Muniz not get a wage increase ( big one ) and a contract extension ? Don’t care about the garbage replies . We were in a perfect position to negotiate such a deal . But probably he got a wage rise without any extension which would have been the worst move from Fulham’s point of view . -- Wonder signing on fee promised, Sunday, January 19, 11:11:41pm (82-132-215-216.dab.02.net/82.132.215.216)
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- Kelleher. -- Zvezdara boy, Sunday, January 19, 10:33:25pm (178-220-177-48.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs/178.220.177.48)
Worth a look?
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- If Silva were to leave...who would we replace him with? Carrick? -- Question, Sunday, January 19, 09:45:38pm (NoHost/51.37.87.116)
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- Edin Terzić Is favourite for Spurs job and MS is same odds as Thomas Frank at Brentford -- So stop wetting your pants, Sunday, January 19, 09:14:02pm (575008b0.skybroadband.com/87.80.8.176)
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- Ange and Spurs? . we'd bee more woried tht Utd sack Amorin soon and admite (no surprise to us, we called hiom a fraud!) a massive gaff! -- hh, Sunday, January 19, 07:08:47pm (h-98-128-173-33.A785.priv.bahnhof.se/98.128.173.33)
marco to United.. he'd not turn down them....... whatever people want to call them.. they will iopen the chequebook this summer
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- How long has Postecoglou got. 24 hours? -- CB, Sunday, January 19, 04:11:38pm (213-18-164-61.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.164.61)
Scottie would stop them from conceding so many, maybe? Odds? :)
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- Reckon frank and ireola (sp) thankfully above Marco in prem pecking order. Heard (can't remember where) that levy already has a continental manager first choice (NT) -- Superfly, Sunday, January 19, 04:15:59pm (NoHost/148.252.145.223)
- Can see them being keen and Marco being tempted - but not sure he’d want to go mid season (NT) -- Kenny, Sunday, January 19, 04:20:08pm (NoHost/155.133.17.231)
- Imagine a good few would’ve wanted him gone at half time today after yet another suicidal high line performance . In a way Iraiola’s sudden ‘surge’ imho puts him top of the list of current PL Managers. Factor in the size of the two Clubs and this would certainly represent a challenge to him …….accepting of course he can work with Levy . Their Fanbase has been overtaken by their Customer Base: amazing stadium /match day exp/ events etc . (NT) -- Mickey, Sunday, January 19, 04:26:09pm (82-132-223-12.dab.02.net/82.132.223.12)
- That's got to be it for him. Just 8 points above relegation. Don't think a club their (perceived) size can accept that. I'm genuinely worried. (NT) -- eganonoa, Sunday, January 19, 04:38:41pm (pool-108-18-149-21.washdc.fios.verizon.net/108.18.149.21)
- Think spurs will stick with Ange until end of season, successful managers rarely move mid season, they are still in 3 cups, with lots of injuries. Iraola ticks a lot of boxes, works with young players, front foot attacking football. Frank not sure bigger teams are convinced by his style and if it translates to a champs league team. Silva maybe, but Spurs defo after a younger team which silva doesn’t favour, reckon the fave is a younger continent based coach. (NT) -- Henry1879, Sunday, January 19, 04:40:45pm (croy-26-b2-v4wan-167127-cust1611.vm24.cable.virginm.net/82.38.22.76)
- So Marco would be on a short list. Surely that would make the Khans give him whatever he wants not just his contract but the players of his choice. Unless they're thick and content for him to walk. Which lbh most wealthy owners tend to be when it comes to a sport way outside of their zone, where everything is replacable with money. (NT) -- CB, Sunday, January 19, 05:51:09pm (213-18-164-61.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.164.61)
- My money is on him being gone before their next game. Any manager needs to have time to mould a team but I can't recall a Spurs side being in a potential relegation scrap so just waiting gor Levy to announce the inevitable. (NT) -- FFC in Brighton., Sunday, January 19, 06:40:10pm (NoHost/84.67.37.51)
- Re: How long has Postecoglou got. 24 hours? (NT) -- You can’t control the uncontrollable., Sunday, January 19, 06:51:50pm (host-217-8-22-33.as13285.net/217.8.22.33)
- Well I've been a Fulham season ticket holder since 1982, and I've heard a rumour he is not leaving.... (NT) -- GTS, Sunday, January 19, 06:58:12pm (NoHost/2.220.215.37)
- Hard to imagine he'll be there next season and easy to imagine the agents of Iraola and Silva (in that order) have been sounded out among others. However, a) strong suspicion that those both those two would prefer to see their current seasons out and take it from there. b) Spurs won't be going down; it's not an emergency. Therefore likeliest they'll bide time into Feb/March and someone inhouse can if need be take temp charge. So a distinctly possible issue, but not quite yet. (NT) -- b+w g., Sunday, January 19, 07:15:19pm (68.52.159.143.dyn.plus.net/143.159.52.68)
- Yes I agree and hypothetically if spurs won the league cup, got into Europe and finished 14th would it be a bad season? Europe qualification id imagine is their main goal, that would be ticked, they brought young in the summer, got loads of injuries, there are mitigations, they’ve been playing a 19 year old midfielder at CB for weeks now. Spot on with regards managers too, anyone they’d want probably won’t be available until summer. (NT) -- Henry1879, Sunday, January 19, 07:46:23pm (croy-26-b2-v4wan-167127-cust1611.vm24.cable.virginm.net/82.38.22.76)
- Between the Khans and Levy, I know who I'd rather work for. And if it's down to money, there's only so much you can spend in one lifetime (NT) -- MH, Monday, January 20, 12:46:14am (180-150-112-232.NBN.mel.aussiebb.net/180.150.112.232)
- Remember the other day -- Fkev, Sunday, January 19, 03:54:47pm (242.122.199.146.dyn.plus.net/146.199.122.242)
I posted I'd heard a horrible rumour that if Postecoglou leaves Spurs, they are lining up Marco. The guy that told me has been a Spurs ST holder for 40+ years. Anyway, Silva was 50-1 when he told me. I just looked, to have a few quid myself and he's into 11-2! Very much hoping it's bs
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- Would have thought Iraola the better fit for them at the moment? (NT) -- Greenpole, Sunday, January 19, 04:02:46pm (82-132-232-39.dab.02.net/82.132.232.39)
- Well Silva might well go to Spurs, but I doubt if your season ticket holding mate is any the wiser because he's been supporting them for 50 years. That's my issue with you, you appear to think gossip and assumption = fact. (NT) -- Juana Aorta, Sunday, January 19, 04:05:51pm (92.40.172.171.threembb.co.uk/92.40.172.171)
- In fairness he's looking at the odds closing in not making definitive assumptions. I think Parker would be the perfect fit. For us. (NT) -- CB, Sunday, January 19, 04:17:15pm (213-18-164-61.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.164.61)
- You're one of those fellas who could have a row in an empty room aren't you. The purpose of the post was to say that Silva has been significantly backed to take the role. Whether it's true or not I have no idea. Take out of it what you will (NT) -- Fkev, Sunday, January 19, 05:06:46pm (242.122.199.146.dyn.plus.net/146.199.122.242)
- Goes hand in hand with conspiracy theories. Why have proof when you can have innuendo and feelings. Let me guess, right wing and religious too. Even the original post celebrates some kind of special knowledge that none of us had, of which, guess what, there’s no proof of being true. (NT) -- ASPT, Sunday, January 19, 07:14:47pm (NoHost/1.145.93.28)
- He's out to 8/1 now, joint 4th fav with 4 others. I don't think bigger teams are that interested in Marco anyway, as he has been sacked by Watford and Everton in the PL and so if it went wrong (which it nearly always does) the fans would probably be asking some questions of the board. (NT) -- Pablo, Sunday, January 19, 07:55:15pm (host86-164-77-68.range86-164.btcentralplus.com/86.164.77.68)
- Marco on Rodrigo -- eganonoa, Sunday, January 19, 01:20:31pm (pool-108-18-149-21.washdc.fios.verizon.net/108.18.149.21)
"No not at all," Silva said when asked if any clubs have been in contact for Muniz.
"We are not open to listen to anything about Rodrigo and it's better if no one contacts us because it will be a quick and easy answer from us.
"There's no chance at all to even start to talk to clubs."
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- Despite many clamouring for a new CF, we have a strong combination there now. We know Raul isn’t long term, but another season or 2, with muniz learning and developing. Supplement with a multi position young player in the summer to give us another option would be nice. Think we had that idea last summer with cherki/nuameh interest, plenty of those types out there. (NT) -- Henry1879, Sunday, January 19, 02:10:17pm (croy-26-b2-v4wan-167127-cust1611.vm24.cable.virginm.net/82.38.22.76)
- Pretty shocking miss by him yesterday (NT) -- Superfly, Sunday, January 19, 03:36:06pm (NoHost/148.252.145.223)
- I remember him saying that about Palhinha! We have been lucky Raul has got a few this season as he looked finished last season (NT) -- Waterboy, Sunday, January 19, 04:06:48pm (NoHost/81.79.89.125)
- If Jordan Ayew had not shot under Raul's challenge early on I believe the referee, or VAR, would have given a penalty... -- Rupert, Sunday, January 19, 12:34:33pm (5ec14628.skybroadband.com/94.193.70.40)
It was in the first couple of minutes, but goals change matches as they say...
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- Berge -- Cloudy weather, Sunday, January 19, 11:37:05am (2e409fa8.skybroadband.com/46.64.159.168)
MoTD waxed lyrical about Sander!
great signing ,
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- What do you know Marco? -- Chilly weather, Sunday, January 19, 10:18:23am (2e409fa8.skybroadband.com/46.64.159.168)
Silva told his post-match press conference at the King Power Stadium:
“He’s a very, very important player for us. Unfortunately for him and us, he had a difficult December month which broke the momentum and confidence he was playing with. He had a small issue in his hamstring. He’s a player who’s had injuries in the past that have completely broken his momentum. Of course, it starts to create some doubts in his mind.
We were able to rest him and manage him in the best we could, and it’s really important to have him back again. He’s going to arrive at his best again
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- ESR that is (NT) -- Chilly weather, Sunday, January 19, 10:31:38am (2e409fa8.skybroadband.com/46.64.159.168)
- Re: What do you know Marco? Marco know a lot he wanted ESR and rightly so a young very talented player. I cannot believe some of the criticism on here. We have seen over the years players that have proved everyone wrong. He has been with us 6 months after missing a season at Arsenal. He deserves to be given some time and we should all get behind him. (NT) -- Honest, Sunday, January 19, 01:38:55pm (host86-130-159-149.range86-130.btcentralplus.com/86.130.159.149)
- Trying to remember since we brought a dud , sure a couple of the Woeisme Club members will chip in . (NT) -- Cloudy weather, Sunday, January 19, 02:55:33pm (2e409fa8.skybroadband.com/46.64.159.168)
- Had a ticket yesterday but didn’t make it due to horrible lingering chest infection and shite weather.What I have noticed though is the number of dangerous positions Bassey is getting into.Decent efforts that are going just wide.Can see him getting one or two this seaon with a bit of luck. -- HemelRog, Sunday, January 19, 07:54:00am (5ec0f8a7.skybroadband.com/94.192.248.167)
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- This is why the rangers fans loved him, his powerful runs forward. (NT) -- John, Sunday, January 19, 09:04:29am (c149-247.i06-6.onvol.net/77.71.149.247)
- A bruising centre forward in the making maybe , somewhat in the Mitro style except he's quicker. (NT) -- MWKent, Sunday, January 19, 11:01:46am (host-80-46-12-4.as13285.net/80.46.12.4)
- Imagine if he starts hitting shots like he had on target! A commentator in prior match when we had three at the back likened him to Roberto Carlos. I didn't think that was crazy at all. (NT) -- eganonoa, Sunday, January 19, 02:07:16pm (pool-108-18-149-21.washdc.fios.verizon.net/108.18.149.21)
- Today -- Henry1879, Saturday, January 18, 07:09:04pm (croy-26-b2-v4wan-167127-cust1611.vm24.cable.virginm.net/82.38.22.76)
First of all I’m normally a big believer in performances being a combination of both teams contributing (good or bad), but I admit today I thought Leicester were really really poor, a championship quality team low on confidence. The first goal was always going to determine who won, if they’d scored first, got the crowd onside and defended deep it would have been a nightmare. I talked about the disappointment of West Ham due them also being dire (as shown v CPFC today) and offering barely a threat, but we showed a lack of patience and maturity, however today we did the opposite. Clinical and then managed the game well after we went ahead, but not sure Leicester would score if we played for a week.
Individuals, thought Robbo looked more dangerous again with us going back to what works, a back 4 with Iwobi going inside. Berge probably my man of the match, really good reader of danger and playing him with lukic allows ESR to be more free and get in the box more. Lukic also got forward well at times, hope that can continue, him and Berge should be getting 5/6 goals between them a season. Actually thought Traore was poor apart from his quality finish, but that’s always been his strength, moments which don’t take much thinking. Thought Raul was class again, i like it when Anderson fires low balls in to his feet when he drops into midfield, reminiscent of mitro at his best. That West Ham now seems even more frustrating, ifs, buts and maybes, but what a game to produce some of the worst individual moments all season. Onwards and upwards, same as we’ve been for a while, strong second half and we can get 7th/8th and Europe, poor second half and our floor is 12th, there’s no pressure on us at all.
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- Good to get back to winning ways, utd next who we have been very unlucky against in the last 2 seasons (NT) -- Waterboy, Saturday, January 18, 09:55:00pm (NoHost/81.79.89.125)
- I don't know how Silva can improve our conversion rate shots to goals rate. Against WHU 21 shots = 2 goals. Yesterday 17 shots, 2 on target /goals. It's been the same story all season. We are so wasteful in the scoring areas that improvement is essential to maximise our points tally. (NT) -- MWKent, Sunday, January 19, 11:15:24am (host-80-46-12-4.as13285.net/80.46.12.4)
- Leicester were always going down before a ball was kicked, which is why Cooper's sacking was quite insane... ditto Southampton and Russell Martin, Ipswich were the only ones to give themselves a puncher's chance but will need a large helping hand from Wolves or Everton, which I doubt they will get. (NT) -- Rupert, Sunday, January 19, 12:26:15pm (5ec14628.skybroadband.com/94.193.70.40)
- Great win away today against a team it would be Fulhamish to gift them a break -- LeggyLeggyLeggy, Saturday, January 18, 07:08:07pm (575008b0.skybroadband.com/87.80.8.176)
Have never liked Van Nistelroy ever since he dined out on the hatrick in 2003 where he elbowed Legwinski in the face yet it still gets talked about as one of the best goals (VAR would have sent him off and disallowed it).
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- Well said. Sylvain was poleaxed - alas, happening other way, red card, vilification…. (NT) -- Andrew in Bath, Saturday, January 18, 07:30:01pm (NoHost/90.220.13.200)
- Never been a fan either, but showed dignity yesterday, and always grateful for that great late chance he missed for Hamburg which would have broken our hearts... (NT) -- Rupert, Sunday, January 19, 12:29:03pm (5ec14628.skybroadband.com/94.193.70.40)
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Top stuff. But remembering it was The foxes on 7 game losing streak and going 👇 -- Tim Simpson, Saturday, January 18, 06:57:59pm (customer.lndngbr1.pop.starlinkisp.net/216.128.29.106)
Do was say EsR And Adama.. much asked on here
Found their level?
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- Who invented how shit must you be song? -- The past, Saturday, January 18, 06:43:13pm (NoHost/94.2.8.185)
I first heard it away to West ham in 2006 or 2007 and assumed we'd invented it. But I realise how naive that sounds now. Any ideas?
We're winning away
We're winning away
How shit must you be
We're winning away
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- We have invented it during the seasons when we couldn't buy an away win (NT) -- Samuel, Saturday, January 18, 06:44:47pm (cpc159747-finc22-2-0-cust115.4-2.cable.virginm.net/81.108.184.116)
- I think we did invent it. We sang it for a couple of years under Coleman when we would routinely win one or two away games a season. There was a Steed winner at Man City with Ian Pearce bombing forward that I particularly remember, I think it was our first away win in something like 18 months. I feel as if we started hearing other teams sing it in the few years after that. (NT) -- JamieR, Saturday, January 18, 07:15:26pm (82-132-213-224.dab.02.net/82.132.213.224)
- I think it was invented away to Reading in the 07/08 season. That's the first time I recall hearing it and it was our first away win for something like 30 matches. (NT) -- Dougie, Saturday, January 18, 11:49:42pm (83-151-234-124.dsl.cnl.uk.net/83.151.234.124)
- Great win -- Honest, Saturday, January 18, 06:13:45pm (host86-130-159-149.range86-130.btcentralplus.com/86.130.159.149)
After throwing away the points at West Ham it was great to come back with an impressive win today. Really pleased for the much criticised ESR and Adama who both scored today. Bergh and Lukic ex excellent and a much deserved win. Coyw
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- Why did Iwobi come off at half time ? -- View from the Riverside, Saturday, January 18, 05:09:28pm (NoHost/104.28.86.109)
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- Hopefully nothing too serious, just a precautionary substitution (NT) -- MWKent, Saturday, January 18, 05:23:42pm (host-80-46-12-4.as13285.net/80.46.12.4)
- Re: Why did Iwobi come off at half time ? (NT) -- Maybe feeling something or slightly jaded, Saturday, January 18, 05:25:42pm (host-217-8-22-33.as13285.net/217.8.22.33)
- Was ill during the week (NT) -- FB2, Saturday, January 18, 05:54:08pm (NoHost/90.211.210.131)
- Totally different side 2nd half -- eganonoa, Saturday, January 18, 05:05:53pm (pool-108-18-149-21.washdc.fios.verizon.net/108.18.149.21)
Enforced or not, Adama coming on changed the dynamic, as did a seeming unleashing of Lukic on the right of central mid. Suddenly, we're able to threaten down both sides of the pitch, and have physicality out wide both sides. And, while at halftime 63% of our play had gone down the left, by the end it was 45%. Great stuff.
(More than) honorable mentions to Wilson, Lukic and Berge today. Berge is just fantastic in that defensive mid position, switching play from left to right, seemingly at will. Lukic showed what he can do with a more advanced role, with some excellent driving runs. And Wilson... he's just on a different level than I think we've ever seen him, a threat whether on the right or left.
And how great to see two of our most maligned players - ESR and Adama - both scoring and looking very good.
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- 2-0! -- Andrew in Bath, Saturday, January 18, 04:29:08pm (NoHost/90.220.13.200)
ESR & Traore - latter on for Iwobi @ halftime!
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- Palace beating west ham at West ham -- Waterboy, Saturday, January 18, 04:20:55pm (NoHost/51.37.87.116)
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- Unbelievable could have conceded after 2 minutes playing way to slow no tempo keep attacking down the left we need to switch it up as they are getting men over and all the space is on the right. Our defending from set pieces is atrocious that could be our undoing -- Button, Saturday, January 18, 03:56:13pm (cpc121148-nmal24-2-0-cust131.19-2.cable.virginm.net/77.100.25.132)
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- Apparently lucky not to concede a penalty? (NT) -- CB, Saturday, January 18, 04:01:56pm (213-18-164-61.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.164.61)
- Good old Brentford Button. (NT) -- HemelRog, Saturday, January 18, 05:02:35pm (5ec0f8a7.skybroadband.com/94.192.248.167)
- Nunez… (NT) -- FB2, Saturday, January 18, 05:14:57pm (NoHost/90.211.210.131)
- Do you think I would be watching Fulham if I was a Brentford fan while they are playing Liverpool at the same time 🤦♂️🤦♂️ (NT) -- Button, Sunday, January 19, 12:01:30am (nmal-23-b2-v4wan-169190-cust1261.vm24.cable.virginm.net/80.5.116.238)
- Predictable (and predicted) -- eganonoa, Saturday, January 18, 03:53:08pm (pool-108-18-149-21.washdc.fios.verizon.net/108.18.149.21)
All high pass-accuracy safe passers in central midfield + no Adama outball on the right + Castagne hemmed back covering for the slow Andersen = everything must come from Robinson and Iwobi on the left or nothing gets created, we just keep possession. 63% of our attacks down the left side. We're becoming far too predictable and need to proactively mix it up (Adama and Andreas are the obvious options). But I fear we only will if/when we concede our standard post-halftime goal.
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- Asking for an ECONOMIST -- Greenpole, Saturday, January 18, 02:48:03pm (82-132-235-111.dab.02.net/82.132.235.111)
Has anyone please got the figures for the net investment in players for forest, Bournemouth & Fulham since the end of our promotion season?
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- Justin Kluivert ! -- CB, Saturday, January 18, 02:39:27pm (213-18-164-61.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.164.61)
How much did he cost Bournemouth? We do so well on defenders if only we could do the same on center-forwards
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- Answers on a postcard please... -- stockport_white, Saturday, January 18, 02:29:52pm (host-92-12-199-123.as13285.net/92.12.199.123)
Our record to date this season against the current top five:
P5 W3 D2 L0 F9 A5 P11
and against the current bottom five:
P6 W1 D4 L1 F7 A9 P7
I daresay other clubs' fans could quote something similar, but the dismal record against the so-called poorer teams seems to happen to us in too many seasons.
Just for completeness sake, our record to date against the remaining nine 'middling' teams is P10 W3 D3 L4, so that's not great either.
Of course, it's nice to get all those unexpected points against the top sides, and I wonder if the results to date had been reversed but we'd still accumulated the same number of points we'd be less positive about how the season had gone so far?
3 points this afternoon would help, of course...
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- Left behind -- Thofokoz, Saturday, January 18, 02:27:26pm (82-132-234-125.dab.02.net/82.132.234.125)
should have signed Justin kluivert wasnt he close to a medical? We have been left in the shade by forest & Bournemouth. Humiliating.
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- What a result for Bournemouth. We can only dream of their consistency -- Woodman, Saturday, January 18, 02:21:40pm (NoHost/51.37.87.116)
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- Line up -- Jim © (The Devon IP), Saturday, January 18, 01:50:41pm (host81-140-255-65.range81-140.btcentralplus.com/81.140.255.65)
Leno, Castagne, Andersen, bassey, Robinson, berge, lukic, esr, wilson, iwobi, Raul.
Think Leno is lucky that we don't have a proper replacement for him after gifting points at w ham.
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- Marco gone full Parker. -- Hg, Saturday, January 18, 01:48:55pm (NoHost/31.94.64.114)
Two dms. Smith Rowe and Anderson still in the team. No doubt it will probably get a result against the current worse team in the league, by my god it shows how weak our squad is, if serial under-performers get picked regardless of form.
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- Chill-out bro' I recommend smoking waccy-baccy. (NT) -- Bob M., Saturday, January 18, 02:03:59pm (NoHost/90.213.242.75)
- No doubt? Sorry there's always an element of doubt with this club. (NT) -- CB, Saturday, January 18, 02:08:02pm (213-18-164-61.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.164.61)
- You seriously think it’s a weak squad.Wow. (NT) -- HemelRog, Saturday, January 18, 02:10:40pm (5ec0f8a7.skybroadband.com/94.192.248.167)
- You really do post some absolute bollocks. (NT) -- GA, Saturday, January 18, 02:47:14pm (ool-18b90125.dyn.optonline.net/24.185.1.37)
- Burnley -- Waterboy, Saturday, January 18, 09:35:35am (NoHost/81.79.89.125)
Quote from their report:
"One criticism that can be levelled at Parker's team is their lack of ruthlessness in front of goal. Promotion teams in any division usually have a better scoring rate than their 1.19 goals per game."
Amazingly they have had 8 x 0-0 draws, could be as dull as when we had him!
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- ESR....if he can't cut it at a fairly low pressure environment...Arsenal have had Silvas pants down here -- Woodman, Saturday, January 18, 09:09:04am (NoHost/51.37.87.116)
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- The Lawman -- Find a city to live in., Friday, January 17, 07:37:41pm (host-217-8-22-33.as13285.net/217.8.22.33)
Gone through the Slips what a Player.
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- i was lucky enough to meet him a few times. My uncle (95 and still around) was best mates with Stepney, Crerand, Kidd and knew Law. Very funny guy and a gentleman. A one off (NT) -- View from the Riverside, Friday, January 17, 08:27:45pm (static-84-9-58-207.vodafonexdsl.co.uk/84.9.58.207)
- These guys came from nothing and never became super rich. Lithe and agile , those were the days. Another natural has passed away. RIP Dennis the menace. (NT) -- CB, Friday, January 17, 08:31:14pm (213-18-164-61.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.164.61)
- As a kid in the 60s although a Fulham supported he was my footbal hero and I used to imitate his mannerisms (NT) -- GlennW, Friday, January 17, 09:09:25pm (host86-190-90-116.range86-190.btcentralplus.com/86.190.90.116)
- Wonderful Footballer and Character. RIP (NT) -- GA, Friday, January 17, 11:57:37pm (ool-18b90125.dyn.optonline.net/24.185.1.37)
- Saw him a few times at The Cottage for ManU. Incredible leap for a small guy (NT) -- MH, Saturday, January 18, 07:23:30am (NoHost/173.239.203.213)
- Nearer but still far away -- Eerwah, Friday, January 17, 11:28:40am (203-213-225-168.pool.activ8me.net.au/203.213.225.168)
Over many seasons Fulham displayed promise then sold a key player or two for balancing books or head coach heads to a more prestigious job. Over many seasons following the club, this is the first situation when both aspects appear to be unlikely. Following much coughing and spluttering, credit is in order. It is a pity expression of fan base appreciation will not happen to encourage the power that may need a little extra enthusiasm to produce required further investment initiatives.
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- Rasmus Hoijlind. Interesting name being linked from Danish press -- Woodsman, Friday, January 17, 11:20:18am (NoHost/64.43.50.204)
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- I think there’s a decent centre forward in him? Not saying Utd to big a club more not the right time to have joined them? If any truth in this you can only imagine one of ours going the other way ? Don’t they need a left back!! (NT) -- MLC, Friday, January 17, 11:51:37am (NoHost/104.28.86.110)
- He is terrible. (NT) -- GA, Friday, January 17, 02:28:30pm (ool-18b90125.dyn.optonline.net/24.185.1.37)
- He's only 21 (22 in a couple of weeks) so plenty of time to improve with some good coaching. At 6ft 3in, I would it would be a good signing if any truth in it, dependent on the size of the fee? (NT) -- Straw Clutchers Anonymous, Friday, January 17, 02:58:37pm (NoHost/90.196.12.62)
- He could make his own video of missed sitters. He fits into the industrious tries hard bracket. Sadly you don’t win much with those type of players. (NT) -- Time out, Friday, January 17, 03:15:17pm (host81-147-88-73.range81-147.btcentralplus.com/81.147.88.73)
- I’d rather keep Vini than sign Hoijlind! (NT) -- Bexhill Beast, Friday, January 17, 03:22:05pm (host86-133-186-241.range86-133.btcentralplus.com/86.133.186.241)
- Why are we always associated with Man Utd failures. So Marco has to start from scratch again to create that 20+ goalscorer that's somewhere in there. (NT) -- CB, Friday, January 17, 03:35:54pm (213-18-164-61.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.164.61)
- Take anyone as this stage! Raul is out of contract in the summer (NT) -- Waterboy, Friday, January 17, 05:10:55pm (NoHost/148.252.133.239)
- Who remembers? -- Old Firm -, Friday, January 17, 10:51:58am (mx-ll-223.204.221-141.dynamic.3bb.in.th/223.204.221.141)
Back in the 50's the disabled Fulham supporters used to enter the pitch area and drive their mobility chairs arround the pitch nd then park up out side the Johnny Haynes stand. For whatever reason a competitive edge was present among these motorised chaps- Egged on by the crowd , drivers were increasing their speeds down the riverside terrace .Of course one poor bloke over did it and ran out of track and attempted to make a right hand turn behind the Hammersmith goal -Of course hhe failed and the wheelchair overturned and spilled him out to oud cheers from the supporters .Not put off he scrammbled back to his wheelchair pulled it back over and continued his lap of the field to even louder cheers . So sad but so funny.
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- Adama must play! -- eganonoa, Thursday, January 16, 03:27:44pm (pool-108-18-149-21.washdc.fios.verizon.net/108.18.149.21)
Adama is so frustrating and yet, I believe he must play. A few reasons: (1) all our play goes down the left and, as a result, we compress play over there and leave huge amounts of space on the right for him to run into. I believe our most impressive performances came in the first 1/3rd of the season, when he was playing there; (2) his pace and power give teams pause in pressing us high, potentially relieving our defenders from some pressure; (3) he offers natural width down the right, something that is necessary if we play only one defensive midfielder and expect our right back to step in as a second DM (which certainly was the case with Tete, and looked to be the case with Castagne); and (4) he offers unparalleled aerial threat in a team that badly needs it.
To focus on the last of those points: aerial threat. For a team that crosses so frequently, and that struggles both offensively and defensively at set-pieces, we are shockingly poor in the air, yet Adama is incredible in that aspect of the game. Of the forwards we have had in those three seasons that have played enough to qualify he has the best aerial dual win percentage across his overall career and Premier League career): Adama (50% overall, 50% PL); Mitro (48% overall, 49% PL); Raul (43% overall, 43% PL), Muniz (43% overall, 42% PL). Here are some additional numbers:
---2022/23 Season: As a team we were 2nd in crosses (769) and 2nd in completed crosses into the penalty area (97), but 15th in Aerial Duel win percentage (48.2%). Our best defender was Tosin (ranking 15th in the league overall), our best midfielder was Palhinha (35th overall), and our best forward was Mitrovic (130th overall, 13th among all forwards). Adama at Wolves was the 52nd best overall and 1st among all forwards (Raul, also at Wolves, was 12th among forwards, just ahead of Mitro).
---2023/24 Season: As a team we were 4th in crosses (736) and 2nd in completed crosses into the penalty area (94), but 14th in Aerial Duel win percentage (48.9%). Our best defender was Tosin (ranking 25th in the league overall), our best midfielder was Palhinha (74th overall), and our best forward was Raul (152nd and 20th among forwards). Muniz was 161st overall and 26th among forwards. Adama didn't play enough to qualify, but his 60% success rate in the games he did play would've placed him 54th overall and 2nd among forwards.
---2024/25 Season: As a team we are 1st in crosses (473) and 1st in completed crosses into the penalty area (55), but 16th in aerial duel win percentage (48.2%). Our best defender is Diop (ranking 25th in the league overall), our best midfielder is Berge (ranking 11th in the league overall!), and our best forward is Adama (ranking 71st in the league overall and 5th among forwards). Muniz is 110th overall and 17th among forwards, while Raul is 136th overall and 28th among forwards.
Granted, his numbers might be inflated somewhat because he plays on the right and doesn't as regularly go up against the big central defenders. But irrespective, his numbers are ridiculously impressive for someone who isn't at all tall and he absolutely brings a presence that we don't have. And because we are so remarkably weak at winning balls in the air and have a real need for it given the number of crosses we put in and our struggles at set pieces, I think Adama must play. To do so, I'd move Wilson centrally into the right "no. 10 position" and have Andreas and ESR compete for the left "no 10 position".
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- Having said all that…… Adama can’t finish his dinner !!!! It’s a NO from me (NT) -- Ffc, Thursday, January 16, 03:34:20pm (host86-184-94-232.range86-184.btcentralplus.com/86.184.94.232)
- Goes missing defensively, other than acting as the bouncer for corners ! (NT) -- Needs to develop a better footballers brain, Thursday, January 16, 03:51:28pm (host31-48-23-179.range31-48.btcentralplus.com/31.48.23.179)
- Think there’s a case for it. Reason for left/right side is that’s how we’ve been designed, Robbo allowed to provide all the width, cast/tete asked to sit next to our CBs, but it does become a little predictable. If Traore starts I’d want Wilson to remain, if he doesn’t score he always looks like he could, would be interesting to see him start more central, although it makes him easier to pick up, slot said recently how important longer runs are. (NT) -- Henry1879, Thursday, January 16, 06:21:22pm (croy-26-b2-v4wan-167127-cust1611.vm24.cable.virginm.net/82.38.22.76)
- What the hell was that attempt at goal in injury time v West Ham though? Embarrassingly bad. Probably the majority of Fulham supporters would have buried that! (NT) -- G, Thursday, January 16, 06:34:27pm (NoHost/90.213.242.75)
- You might as well hold a raffle and pull a fan out of the crowd and tell him to put his boots on. Adama is useless -- View from the Riverside, Thursday, January 16, 08:22:03pm (NoHost/2.218.9.12)
- Traore couldn't get a bouncer's job outside a strip joint. Perhaps that's why Tony signed him, he saw potential for him in his wrestling circus wearing a leotard. (NT) -- Mr Universe he's not, Friday, January 17, 09:12:56am (host-80-46-12-4.as13285.net/80.46.12.4)
- You don’t need Stats where Traore is concerned!! You just need to look in the mirror & say that’s why he plays for Fulham! Had the tools but no Tradesman ! (NT) -- MLC, Friday, January 17, 09:36:46am (NoHost/104.28.86.113)
- I know, time to forget the match -- Al, Thursday, January 16, 01:06:07pm (NoHost/193.17.86.250)
After watching Arse v Spuds highlights and hearing the 'experts' mentioning how one sided the match was I thought I would check the stats and compare to ours against The Spammers. In every area we were superior to The Arse.
Not a mention on MOTD2 where they fawned over Potter and how he managed the match!!!
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- Wigan v Fulham FA Cup, Sessegnon v Sessegnon -- Mycock Sablota, Thursday, January 16, 11:10:26am (host86-140-124-13.range86-140.btcentralplus.com/86.140.124.13)
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- Re: be nice to know which day it will be on. I wonder when the FA will bother to tell us. (NT) -- Harry Bayles, Thursday, January 16, 11:35:55am (NoHost/147.161.237.92)
- Re: Wigan v Fulham FA Cup, Sessegnon v Sessegnon (NT) -- No problem the Away ticket Allocation., Thursday, January 16, 03:14:34pm (host-217-8-22-33.as13285.net/217.8.22.33)
- I'll definitely go if it is a saturday, but I suspect that with the possibility of am upset, the FA will move it to some daft time. Matches between Premiership teams will get the weekend , and other "interesting" games will be Thursday/Friday or Sunday evening. (NT) -- GTS, Friday, January 17, 12:11:43pm (static-customer-assignment.goskope.com/24.206.97.74)
- shad said the ROOFTOP will open for MnU.. but will it? DELAYED FOREVER? revenue lost. whose pying for it? -- i papper reider, Thursday, January 16, 09:18:34am (NoHost/5.255.100.219)
The Riverside Stand was originally slated to open in September 2021 but the project was hampered by delays in demolishing the old stand, Covid-19 lockdowns and difficulties with the construction company.
It is now open to supporters, but the hospitality sections will be completed by summer 2025. Those sections will include a bar with rooftop pool and Michelin-starred restaurant.
“When I first spoke to the Fulham Disabled Supporters Association they gave me some advice and that was that Fulham is the sort of club that can have a business class or first class and have fans that turn left on a plane,” was the quote from Alistair Mackintosh that you hear a lot from Fulham season-ticket holders now.Discussing the introduction of a £12,000 corporate season ticket in the Riverside Stand, Mackintosh made his feelings perfectly clear: “The attention is on the top-end pricing as it is more interesting to report than the bottom end, but our game against Villa is sold out.”
His point is a reasonable one: the business of football is business. If you can sell your tickets for a match at £150, then why would you sell them for anything less? This is simple supply and demand, folks.
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- Weird that you would only quote the article up until that one single point which suggests its the authors standpoint, whereas he then goes on to present several counterpoints against that line of thinking. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Thursday, January 16, 10:35:40am (webdefence-pool-02.cluster-a.forcepoint.net/85.115.52.202)
- Just a load of waffle... nothing to see hear... average gate north of 26 with big hitters to come, not all sweetness and light but these thibngs take time, onward and upward, author attempting to be negative for the sake of it, from where we have come to where we are now... Clay and Bulstrode 'nuked the club', metaphorically speaking. (NT) -- Rupert, Thursday, January 16, 10:47:26am (5ec14628.skybroadband.com/94.193.70.40)
- Mario Lemina - wants out of Wolves!!!! -- sid, Thursday, January 16, 01:53:41am (NoHost/45.141.215.95)
Thought he was good when he was with us. But didn't miss him once we went down and he parted ways after his Loan.
But since he came back to the PL with Wolves he's added to his game and is Exactly the #8 we need. (or Marco needs)
'Does a bit of everything type Central midfielder' just like Berge can do.
Ideally play him with Berge . As a Double Pivot.
make the Call Tony. bring back the gang?
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- Me and you must have a very different recollection of what happened that season with that gang. I remember us being woeful, only winning 5 games and going down without a fight. (NT) -- Hg, Thursday, January 16, 08:06:21am (NoHost/31.94.64.40)
- We had an atrocious season but you can't say we didn't have a good squad. Look at the players we had (Areola, Aina, Tete, Andersen, Robinson, Mitro, Anguissa, Lemina, Lookman) and how well they've gone on to play since then, either at Fulham or other PL clubs or top leagues abroad, and tell me it's not absolutely criminal that that team played as badly as they did. (NT) -- Pavlov's Dog, Thursday, January 16, 09:12:00am (NoHost/130.255.28.185)
- Areola, tete, tosin, Anderson, Robinson, lemina, RLC, anguissa, lookman, mitro, Cav/BDR, that is a mid table team on paper, shouldn’t even be in a relegation scrap, there’s a case to say it’s as good as our current XI, stronger in areas, criminal we went down when such a wimper. (NT) -- Henry1879, Thursday, January 16, 09:25:23am (croy-26-b2-v4wan-167127-cust1611.vm24.cable.virginm.net/82.38.22.76)
- Two things with Lemina ? Good player but will lose him through suspension often throughout a season!! Diego Carlos who we are linked with is a much better footballer than him!! (NT) -- MLC, Thursday, January 16, 09:31:48am (NoHost/104.28.86.37)
- Decent enough player, but surely not a priority position at the moment. Despite all our desperate attempts to big up Raul, he really is bang average, takes a great penalty though. Decent striker in this team would be on 15 goals already...We only need a Chris Wood/Evan Ferguson type, nothing flash... (NT) -- G, Thursday, January 16, 09:12:57am (host81-133-110-86.in-addr.btopenworld.com/81.133.110.86)
- Re: Mario Lemina - wants out of Wolves!!!! (NT) -- Lemina or Endo = Bright lights Big City, Thursday, January 16, 10:26:37am (host-217-8-22-33.as13285.net/217.8.22.33)
- So you'd play him instead of Lukic with Berge? (NT) -- SW, Thursday, January 16, 12:01:13pm (cos2-04-b2-v4wan-171525-cust1783.vm10.cable.virginm.net/82.10.46.248)
- Lump on a Leicester city win on Saturday they have lost 6 in a row and Fulham are the gift that keeps on giving. -- Button, Wednesday, January 15, 11:20:02pm (NoHost/148.252.141.241)
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- Lump on Brentford Button to look on the bright side. (NT) -- Norwegian Blue, Thursday, January 16, 08:18:42am (5ec0f8a7.skybroadband.com/94.192.248.167)
- He has a point, first season back, 28 out of 30 against bottom 5, amazing, top half finish, now we have reverted to type, frustrating... (NT) -- Rupert, Thursday, January 16, 10:55:16am (5ec14628.skybroadband.com/94.193.70.40)
- We do seem to have a history of ending other clubs losing runs. (NT) -- Hammersmithender, Thursday, January 16, 11:32:45am (NoHost/31.96.132.60)
- Raul vs Mitrovic (again...) -- eganonoa, Wednesday, January 15, 10:04:24pm (pool-108-18-149-21.washdc.fios.verizon.net/108.18.149.21)
Questions again below regarding comparisons between Raul and Mitrovic. One implying that Raul's record is bolstered by his penalties. The other asking about shot-to-goals ratio and debating xG differentials. Using the same comparison from last week (fbref.com/tiny/e88eo) - i.e. this season vs Mitro's best season - we can answer some of them quite easily.
A. Non-penalty goals per 90 (expected): Raul 0.34 (0.39), Mitro 0.45 (0.39).
B. Non-penalty goal contributions per 90: Raul 0.68, Mitro 0.67.
C. Shots (Shots on Target%) per 90: Raul 3.36 (38.8%), Mitro 3.81 (31.8%).
D. Goals per Shot on Target per 90: Raul 0.26, Mitro 0.37.
So Mitro was in his very best season in the Premier League, was a faster scorer than Raul, and while he got fewer shots on target, scored more frequently than him when he did. Nonetheless, the differences are quite small, amounting to 3 more goals for Mitro if they both played all 90 minutes of all 38 matches, but an equal number of goal contributions (goals + assists).
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- I don’t suppose you actually have the shots per goal stat for Raul do you. (NT) -- Hg, Wednesday, January 15, 10:12:51pm (cpc141402-brnt4-2-0-cust971.4-2.cable.virginm.net/86.9.199.204)
- I was the original poster and the post was not about comparing the two. It was about not having a clinical finisher and the club’s.failure in three windows to find a goalscoror who was clinical , (NT) -- View from the Riverside, Thursday, January 16, 05:46:23am (NoHost/2.218.9.12)
- But you said since mitro left we haven’t resolved the issue of not having a clinical striker, but the clear numbers above prove exactly the opposite, Raul is as clinical as mitro, with the plus side of not wasting penalties and offering more movement, albeit not as strong in the air. As much as people just don’t want to say it, as they labelled Raul useless and washed up, he’s performing as well as mitro at his peak (ignoring his poor prem seasons). (NT) -- Henry1879, Thursday, January 16, 07:26:58am (croy-26-b2-v4wan-167127-cust1611.vm24.cable.virginm.net/82.38.22.76)
- I think that's a technical KO ;-) (NT) -- MH, Thursday, January 16, 07:46:55am (customer.sydyaus1.pop.starlinkisp.net/65.181.12.120)
- Me and you must have a different definition of clinical. Was it hoddle that said Andy Cole wasn’t clinical because he needed 5 shots to score a goal. Yet Raul is on other 6 shots and that includes his penalty goals. (NT) -- Hg, Thursday, January 16, 08:11:19am (NoHost/31.94.64.40)
- I haven’t defined clinical, I’m just looking at the impartial stats, which say Raul has been as clinical as mitro this season at his best, better than Watkins, haaland and solanke this season. It’s almost impossible to judge by eye how clinical someone is over the season, invariably we remember misses, but the stats say Raul has been a good prem CF this season and done a good job of finishing chances he’s been given, that’s not my opinion, it’s statistically what’s happened. (NT) -- Henry1879, Thursday, January 16, 08:36:45am (croy-26-b2-v4wan-167127-cust1611.vm24.cable.virginm.net/82.38.22.76)
- I would absolutely love to know where all these chances are that supposedly Raul keeps missing? One that hit the bar v Wolves, you could say perhaps a couple of half chance headers over the 20 odd games> We're not talking about an Andy Cole who played for a dominant side and would be offered up golden chances in their bucket loads. (NT) -- Jim© The Devon IP, Thursday, January 16, 10:52:00am (62-64-192-58.virtual1.co.uk/62.64.192.58)
- In the pointless Mitrovic vs Raul comparison we keep having, there's something less tangible than goals and 'goal contributions' about the two. I just always felt like our attack was more cohesive with Mitrovic and he offered a lot more over the rest of the pitch. Its kind of like comparing the scoring records of Johnson and Zamora - if you were only looking at goal stats you'd always go with Johnson, but Zamora brought so much more. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Thursday, January 16, 11:01:03am (webdefence-pool-02.cluster-a.forcepoint.net/85.115.52.202)
- The problem is that's based on feeling and doesn't stand up to data, which show Raul better in things like keeping possession, creating chances, and some defensive stats. All players are different and provide something different to the team. But it's pretty clear that Raul has provided about as much as Mitro at his best. For goals, it's really just a function of shots being created for our striker. We are 11th in the league on that and our striker is 11th in the league on goals scored (NT) -- eganonoa, Thursday, January 16, 11:11:34am (pool-108-18-149-21.washdc.fios.verizon.net/108.18.149.21)
- Pointless to an extent, but isn’t that the point of a FFC messageboard, people comparing opinions, stats on players, it’s just normal fan chat, X v Y player. Ega has shown good amounts of data on how similar they overall, with different strengths/weakness. I’d add, how about non-football, mitro clearly an ego (always on pens, showed his colours when forcing a move) v Raul, not heard a bad word, always plays for the team and never an issue when not starting. (NT) -- Henry1879, Thursday, January 16, 12:13:16pm (croy-26-b2-v4wan-167127-cust1611.vm24.cable.virginm.net/82.38.22.76)
- I wasn't trying to halt conversation, just think its pointless as the stats are being generated at different points, with different teammates, with different context around them. Non football, i'd lean towards your interpretation certainly, but equally, we would have failed PSR without that Mitrovic sale, so i remain unconvinced that we know the whole story around that move. I'd still rather have Mitrovic in my team than Raul, but we don't have that. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Thursday, January 16, 12:29:58pm (webdefence-pool-02.cluster-a.forcepoint.net/85.115.52.202)
- By that definition Mitro then was as "bad" as Raul is now, so the argument that we "haven't addressed" the issue since Mitro left fails. You could, I suppose, argue that "we never had" a clinical striker, but that's not what is being said. It would also fly in the face of facts given that in the current top-10 goal scorers there are three - Cunha (5.8), Jackson (6.3), Watkins (5.8) - with the same shot-to-goals ratio, and two - Palmer (5.1), Haaland (5.2) - just a notch below. (NT) -- eganonoa, Thursday, January 16, 10:46:50am (pool-108-18-149-21.washdc.fios.verizon.net/108.18.149.21)
- Why are we talking about a has been in a never were league? (NT) -- Rupert, Thursday, January 16, 10:52:00am (5ec14628.skybroadband.com/94.193.70.40)
- Would be interested in the stats of all the squad apart from Iwobi to see their goals/chances they have missed this season (NT) -- Waterboy, Thursday, January 16, 02:28:30pm (NoHost/81.79.89.125)
- Not really FR -- Andrew in Bath, Wednesday, January 15, 06:07:28pm (NoHost/90.220.13.200)
One consolation is we don’t have anyone as babyish and pathetic as Cucurella at CC - an embarrassment. Am still ashamed of Pereira’s antics last season when trying to get Van Dijk sent off. Behave like that in the playground? You’d be laughed to scorn
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- Good interviews -- Honest, Wednesday, January 15, 05:40:42pm (host86-130-159-149.range86-130.btcentralplus.com/86.130.159.149)
By Iwobi and Marco on the home page. Both acknowledging that they should have won the game but bad mistakes cost them. Certainly Iwobi saying that they cannot afford such mistakes but they dust themselves down and go again. Marco was also saying that they need to make better decisions at both ends of the pitch and this is something they will analyse and work on. The main focus now will be the Leicester game Saturday. I thought Iwobi was excellent once again along with Robinson, Lukic, Bassey Wilson and Jiminez. Managers footballers cannot dwell on mistakes as these are part of football. One mistake or below par performance does not make them bad players. Knee jerk reactions do not benefit anyone. We have had an ex excellent season and we all know with a little luck would be much higher up the table. As fans we get wrapped up in the emotion of things. I took it pretty badly last night, but on reflection we were by far the better team. On to Leicester COYW
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- I thought it was lukics worst performance of the season. He was a just a fraction off pace with everything. He wasnt awful, but i didnt think he had a particularly good game at all. I think he’s probably knackered as he’s had to play every game and cover a lot of ground without Berge (NT) -- Same Old Story, Wednesday, January 15, 06:50:48pm (NoHost/185.69.144.32)
- Difficult to say that in a game we dominated from start to finish! We made mistakes that's what cost us. Even so the players kept working hard and we should have equalised the death. The most difficult thing to take is that they were so poor and created very little. (NT) -- Honest, Wednesday, January 15, 07:02:25pm (host86-130-159-149.range86-130.btcentralplus.com/86.130.159.149)
- I thought quite a few players looked a yard off, but I’m not sure it was a thing, we almost looked confused when West Ham started pressing us really high, almost going man for man, which led to some bad decisions and our players looking a bit off the pace as they weren’t sure what to do. We should have been prepared for it, potter was always going to try and change things, but we didn’t play long enough and didn’t get our patterns working. (NT) -- Henry1879, Wednesday, January 15, 07:22:40pm (croy-26-b2-v4wan-167127-cust1611.vm24.cable.virginm.net/82.38.22.76)
- I think Iwobi is laying the best football of his career, fulfilling some of the promise he showed when he first emerged at Arsenal. Getting players in the box to attack the ball got to be a priority in our tactics. (NT) -- Ken, Wednesday, January 15, 06:54:49pm (33C63E8e.skybroadband.com/51.198.62.142)
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Muniz the latest to be linked with a Move Away -- s0-s0, Wednesday, January 15, 02:08:26pm (NoHost/84.67.101.68)
The thing is. While we like the majority of our players and its important to note that Silva does Get a Tune out of most of them.
We are in a position where Almost all of our players Should be Sold If and When a Good offer arises.
Now this is where I see the problem lies.
We do seem to be very slow and often Reactive to these situations (Opportunities).
Where is our Scouting and pre planning at?
We should have potential replacements Already in place when the Transfer window becomes open.
Yet With the chance to Offload our current Backup CF. WE do not seem to have a Better version of him or Raul (By that I really speak of a Faster version) Scouted and already Tapped up.
Surely the next(before they move away from Scandinavia) Isak, Hojiland or Haailand should be in our sights for a cheap Affordable move.
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- Problem is we are in a league where there are only 3 or 4 teams if that we are bigger than? The Division below us has enough teams bigger than us? With regards to scouting every team in the world are looking for that “ONE” (NT) -- MLC, Wednesday, January 15, 02:27:14pm (NoHost/104.28.86.35)
- Can't see anyone leaving without being replaced. We have not got good back up in several positions (NT) -- Edward Winston Malone, Wednesday, January 15, 02:55:18pm (cpc115214-nmal23-2-0-cust962.19-2.cable.virginm.net/81.109.79.195)
- How do you know we have "tapped up" a replacement ? (NT) -- GTS, Wednesday, January 15, 03:00:50pm (static-customer-assignment.goskope.com/24.206.97.74)
- Are you referring to the westham link? If so they seem to suggest that a loan with an option is the most likely way of signing him. Now I know we have done some dumb things in the treabsfer market so far, but even this has to be a stretch. No way we leave ourselves with one striker on the wrong side of 30, and with no cash to replace him. (NT) -- Hg, Wednesday, January 15, 03:03:26pm (NoHost/31.94.64.40)
- Why the hell do so many of you believe rumours enough to regurgitate them? Fulham will not sell Muniz unless they have a better striker lined up. Just because some self stylrd expert comes up with a rumour you must realise 99% of these stories are crap. Like the “I heard a rumour” nonsense further down. (NT) -- Going, Wednesday, January 15, 08:18:19pm (host86-191-39-143.range86-191.btcentralplus.com/86.191.39.143)
- Teflon needs selling ( or rather sacking ) not Muniz (NT) -- alanos, Friday, January 17, 12:48:44am (82-132-213-145.dab.02.net/82.132.213.145)
- https://x.com/SkySportsPL/status/1879516933755928873/photo/1 -- DIOPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP, Wednesday, January 15, 01:31:14pm (NoHost/84.67.101.68)
heres why we all feeling like we are today, yesterdays error ridden game after albeit a decent Xmad period. A case of 'what could had been'
skys just confirmed it.
19 points dropped from winning positions this season the most!! and we've all suffered it and the toll is now taking affect.
we could be on 49 points . just the thought of it! Yes im still living in A World where we are on 49 points!
Stay strong lads, its been a good season. With potential to still end well.
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- Since when have prem to prem season long loans had a recall option in them. -- Hg, Wednesday, January 15, 12:41:17pm (NoHost/31.94.64.85)
I always thought it wasn’t allowed, unless all 3 parties agree to end the loan. But Chelsea have just recalled chalobah from Crystal Palace. Wish we had gone for him in a permanent deal at the start of the season as he has done well for palace.
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- If we are all Honest! -- Honest, Wednesday, January 15, 11:49:14am (NoHost/148.252.157.45)
We totally do.inated this game we were by far the better side. Dominated possession shots etc. We threw away this game by making schoolboy errors. Sometimes we need to get the ball forward more quickly. There is nothing wrong with a long ball occasionally. I don't subscribe to this knocking certain players. Sometimes players can have below par games even so we should have equalised at the end. The players never gave up and showed passion and desire. Regroup move on learn from the mistakes.
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- Could’a ….would’a …..should’a…..We lost !!! …. We always seem to find a way not too win (NT) -- Ffc, Wednesday, January 15, 12:08:33pm (host86-184-94-232.range86-184.btcentralplus.com/86.184.94.232)
- Just for balance, we now have only 2 wins in the last 10 PL games. Last night may have been hard to take but its hardly a one-off. Form equates to 46 points over the season, well off a European place that some on here think was/is achievable. It's a results business and we are not getting the results that the stats indicate we should. (NT) -- The Drobe, Wednesday, January 15, 12:09:28pm (host86-137-96-186.range86-137.btcentralplus.com/86.137.96.186)
- Wolves , Ipswich (x2), Southampton , WHU (x2) and Everton game total of 5 points from a possible 21. Yes we beat a severely depleted Palace and just got over the line v Leicester . Much as these missed points may be offset against those gained from the better sides , why have we dropped so many points when we should not have done ? We appear so much more disciplined and structured against more threatening opponents . Complacency , arrogance even ?? (NT) -- Mickey, Wednesday, January 15, 12:33:19pm (82-132-229-211.dab.02.net/82.132.229.211)
- But we can say this about the majority of games we havent won "didnt take our chances" is a comment i read on here every time! (NT) -- Waterboy, Wednesday, January 15, 02:30:06pm (NoHost/81.79.89.125)
- We like most will nodoubt find the words 'AT CROSSROADS' a funny term when we look at the Table (League and Form). -- Peronaaaaaaaaaa, Wednesday, January 15, 11:45:38am (hostedby.privatelayer.com/179.43.159.200)
Footballs a funny sport.
Forest can be second and flying with Wood and a whole host of players Fulham looked at but choose to go with 'another' player
Fulham can see Silva try many things this season. Yet almost at every turn. It hasn't worked out as we'd and he'd hoped.
4 at the back, 5 at the back and now 2 up front?
its not had the impact of getting the WINS.
A question to end though? Whats happened to the triangular passing? Yes it was slow, but it was working. ESR and Iwobi was gelling so well early this season. But since we stopped using this triangle buildup play ESR has become less and less a threat. If ESR is no longer required in the build up as Jedi is running through now. Why doesn't ESR get into the Box for Jedis delivery ? Once or twice he did. But I'm talking 'everytime'. Like Wilson would 'gamble' if and when he plays centrally.
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- Re: unny term when Think the answer is simple players can have lapses in form fitness etc. Making judgements on players so early in their journey with us is futile. How many players have we written off and the they constantly prove everyone wrong. Lukic, Bergh, Wilson the list goes on and on. Marco is trying to build a team way of playing and is being successful. With more time we are proving to be a very good side. A little patience needed. (NT) -- Honest, Wednesday, January 15, 12:11:42pm (NoHost/148.252.157.45)
- This last point is critical. I also don't understand what's happened. I thought perhaps it was because ESR was out. But then he comes back and is played on the right of central mid, away from his original effective triangle. Now the left triangle isn't so fluid, despite being still the best. On the right that entire triangle has been ripped up. Wilson for Adama makes sense except he seems better when more central, Tete's absence being more felt that I thought it would, now ESR pushed over there (NT) -- eganonoa, Wednesday, January 15, 01:39:39pm (pool-108-18-149-21.washdc.fios.verizon.net/108.18.149.21)
- clinical and composure -- View from the Riverside, Wednesday, January 15, 10:19:30am (NoHost/2.218.9.12)
Watched the press interview by Marco. It is the same most weeks now and to be fair he highlights the issues well
!. we start on the front foot and do well 2. We are the best team on the pitch 3. We are not clinical. 4 We lack composure in front of goal. 4. At key moments we let ourselves down. Now if we improved those four things we would be in the top 5 and I believe that.
A key step is to get a striker who is clinical and composed. We are in the third window now since Mitrovic left and we have not addressed his departure. Get that and point 2 and 3 improve.
Andersen, Leno, and senior players should be working hard to improve point 4, but they appear to be the ones making the errors. That is about regrouping and management. Maybe time for a rest. Maybe Diop comes back in.
Apart from that the ESR Conundrum in my view unbalances the team. He appears to me overweight and not fit, despite it being January and the second half of the season. Compare his physique to Antonee Robinson who is the same height.
Positionally where do you play him? Does he work hard enough to play down the middle? Is he best out wide? Can he last 90 mins? All a mystery. This season he has played 1259 mins of football - that is 21 hours. He creates an assist or scores a goal every 260 mins (every 4.3 hours!). 0.22 goals per 90 mins. At his height at AFC that figure was 1.66.
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- You make very good points, except comparing body shape to Robbo. Gazza and Maradonna were more rotund than ESR He is different body type to Robbo. (NT) -- ASPT, Wednesday, January 15, 11:00:24am (114-129-187-208.ip4.superloop.au/114.129.187.208)
- Don’t get this fawning over mitro, we hand on a plate 2 goals to West Ham the primary conclusion is we need another CF. Raul is on pace for 15, mitro’s best ever was 14, that’s discarding a couple of other poor prem campaigns he had. B.mouths top scorer has 6, Evanilson has 5. We need to be better in moments, not conceding 2 so quickly, making better decisions at times ie point 4, but Raul isn’t someone who lacks composure, he’s been quite clinical, others around him need to be better. (NT) -- Henry1879, Wednesday, January 15, 11:10:55am (croy-26-b2-v4wan-167127-cust1611.vm24.cable.virginm.net/82.38.22.76)
- 3 of those are pens which I know Mitro was poor at. We need more than 1 striker for a season and a different type of Forward. ESR … he is not fit and can last beyond 60 mins . Why? (NT) -- View from the Riverside, Wednesday, January 15, 11:26:51am (NoHost/2.218.9.12)
- That’s my point, silva said re; january, CF isn’t priority until the earliest the summer, Raul, with some vital goals by Muniz has been a relative strength, not a desperate need to add to, others in the team need to make better decisions and up their game. ESR low in confidence, like sess, being shy means he goes into his shell when things aren’t going well. Strange to bring up the pens point when wanting someone more clinical by bringing up someone who regularly wasn’t clinical at pens. (NT) -- Henry1879, Wednesday, January 15, 11:32:29am (croy-26-b2-v4wan-167127-cust1611.vm24.cable.virginm.net/82.38.22.76)
- Not sure I agree Raul is clinical. He is doing well with the goals this year but clinical? Does anyone know his shot to goal ratio as he seems to miss a lot chances. The header yesterday and was it him who missed the chance similar to Muniz winner against Chelsea in the second half. (NT) -- Hg, Wednesday, January 15, 11:29:14am (NoHost/31.94.34.15)
- I don't know either, but suspect strongly that if we watched other teams regularly we'd in most cases see them miss plenty too. And this is a team that has 'expected goals' in line with actual goals, overall, unlike many others. Last night was overwhelmingly about goals against. (NT) -- b+w g., Wednesday, January 15, 12:02:09pm (68.52.159.143.dyn.plus.net/143.159.52.68)
- The header that hit the bar seemed like a decent effort, hardly missing a sitter, and I'd need to see the chance at the end again (it's not on the sky highlights) but in real time from behind the goal it seemed like a fairly acute angle, he hit it low across the keeper as he should and it was a decent save. No? I have to say I also think Jimenez is far from our biggest problem at the moment, in fact he's been great (NT) -- JamieR, Wednesday, January 15, 12:06:06pm (NoHost/171.33.195.182)
- His individual XG is 9, scored 8, so decent, not a big issue and for context better than haaland and solanke, the ones who tend to really outdo their XG are the likes of Cunha who score long shots or create out of nothing. Header yesterday was a good effort and the first goal, his run made that goal from a fairly average cross. Our XG team is similar to what we score, believe what silva means is clinical, as in win big moments, clinical can mean defending and managing a game, not just scoring. (NT) -- Henry1879, Wednesday, January 15, 12:22:25pm (croy-26-b2-v4wan-167127-cust1611.vm24.cable.virginm.net/82.38.22.76)
- Not really a fan of xg, in fact I think it’s a nonsense. But surely if you are below you xg then that does in fact mean you aren’t clinical. (NT) -- Hg, Wednesday, January 15, 12:32:22pm (NoHost/31.94.34.15)
- The virtue of xG is that it is systematic and relentless, not patchy (remembering, forgetting and overerestimating incidents on a part-time basis as involved spectators do). And yes, ideally you overperform. But both for Raul and the team as a whole, it's just marginal in the season so far. There are loads of players and teams more blatantly out of kilter on the goalscoring front. (NT) -- b+w g., Wednesday, January 15, 12:49:49pm (68.52.159.143.dyn.plus.net/143.159.52.68)
- So you ask what his shots to goals ratio is, then when prevented with a more nuanced and relevant stat it’s considered nonsense. Like all stats it has its limits and doesn’t tell the full picture, but there’s plenty of evidence that shows over a medium time period teams and players regress to their XG. As I said last week, we are stats wise middle, kick on from jan and we can finish 7-8th, at worst finish 14-15th, but probably 9-11th, as we are now. (NT) -- Henry1879, Wednesday, January 15, 01:00:43pm (croy-26-b2-v4wan-167127-cust1611.vm24.cable.virginm.net/82.38.22.76)
- Xg isn’t a more relevant stat at all. It’s based on what every player does, and not relevant to the player you are looking at. If you buy a striker who’s main attribute is scoring with his head, for example, he could still have a good xg even with f he couldn’t hit a cows arse, because the majority of other players who had a similar chance, who wernt expected to score it, and don’t, lower the xg for that situation. (NT) -- Hg, Wednesday, January 15, 01:10:32pm (NoHost/31.94.64.84)
- We've gone backwards. Last season we beat Arsenal, West Ham, Spurs comfortably at home. This season we labour for draws and narrow wins. Silva can't get us to beat the low blocking teams. None of the new recruits have bedded down and established themselves as first picks. Only Berge has shown the potential to do that. I don't want to give up on ESR, but what needs to change for him to perform to his best on a regular basis? As for Anderson, I can't help thinking he's in decline. (NT) -- Juana Aorta, Wednesday, January 15, 12:21:47pm (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
- Diop? Please no. Accident waiting to happen. He's an Alamo defender. Great when we are under pressure and balls bombing into the box. Bobby Moore he isn't. (NT) -- old codger, Wednesday, January 15, 12:38:52pm (0543ba4b.skybroadband.com/5.67.186.75)
- It keeps happening -- Ken, Wednesday, January 15, 10:04:39am (33C63E8e.skybroadband.com/51.198.62.142)
We seem to be continually shooting ourselves in the foot and drawing mainly or occasionally losing games we should be winning. There are the same comments made continuously after every game by the manager.
The fact is we don't have the attacking skills throughout the side to put games to bed. Perhaps the simple answer is the players we have are not good enough to take us higher and this is our level with the quality we have.
Of course we will have those special results but over the season we are lacking. Perhaps whilst hoping for the best we should temper our hopes with a dose of realism and looking back we should be grateful for where we have come over the last five years.
I don't think we will be in the market this January but if there are to be any signings they must be better quality than what we have, same goes for summer window too.
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- Our performances and results against the ‘struggling’ sides have been found wanting . It’s almost as if we expect to ‘out-football ‘ them with the result that application and concentration are reduced . Over 20 shots yet both goals were fortunate as indeed were theirs . Sure doesn’t help with passengers or ESR and Andersen of late . I’d bring Josh and Diop in for both of them Sat. As for Traore’s miss: words fail me 🫣 . (NT) -- Mickey, Wednesday, January 15, 10:12:18am (82-132-233-140.dab.02.net/82.132.233.140)
- Traore has history , he messed up three decent chances at City and again last night. This bloke is useless, he's more concerned with his physic but doesn't use it and is weak on the ball. His scoring record is poor for every team he;s played for, that says it all,He couldn't hit a cows arse with a banjo. He wouldn't be missed if he never wore a Fulham shirt again. (NT) -- Fact, Wednesday, January 15, 06:42:52pm (host-80-46-12-4.as13285.net/80.46.12.4)
- It was the nature of their goals that let us down. We were still the better team even not at our best. -- CB, Wednesday, January 15, 09:28:02am (213-18-164-61.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.164.61)
Sh** happens it’s Fulham. Best not to get too carried away with ideas of grandeur. Forest have scaled those lofty heights historically. We with all our promise tend to screw it up.
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- I can't remember a match i was more irritated by in my life. -- Same Old Story, Wednesday, January 15, 09:11:58am (NoHost/84.69.53.52)
No 'sense of injustice', no blaming the officials (thought the refereeing performance was about the best i've seen in years) this was a defeat entirely of our own making. What i did notice was that the calamity of the 2 goals (and the middle one wasn't much better) aside, i was just getting irritated by loads of little things as the match went on.
- Robinsons succession of momentum breaking, silly little fouls at 3-2. All caused by just going into the back of players who were obviously going to go to ground. Absolutely braindead. He wasn't alone, by the way, we conceded a stack of these.
- Castagne passing the ball down the line 'too tight' and several going straight out.
- Hospital balls (cheers Leno). Punished for a couple, but there were another half a dozen that were not quite punished or that we got away with.
- Lack of urgency. Summed up when Andersen inexplicably went back to Leno in the dying seconds instead of banging it long, only for the ref to blow up before we'd short passed our way to the half-way line.
This is up there with the famous burnley away game. We've contrived to lose to an average, injury ravaged team, who created one single opportunity themselves over 90 minutes, because of complete indiscipline, and players getting far too casual. Every mistake, every issue yesterday - the goals conceded, the bad decision making in the final 3rd, was down to players being far too casual and comfortable. I thought it was also concerning how our heads completely went for 5 minutes after the Perreira gaffe.
There's tough ones to take - this wasn't that. This just made me angry.
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- On the Robinson point, I agree to a certain extent, but 90% of those fouls were against Paqueta who is a cheat. Always thought he was, always hated him for it, it's just not how football should be played. It was a tough watch for all the reasons you've said. I don't get the anger with ESR at all. He was part of a side that created more than enough to walk the game but Leno had other ideas (NT) -- Jim© The Devon IP, Wednesday, January 15, 09:20:40am (62-64-192-58.virtual1.co.uk/62.64.192.58)
- Your excuse for Robinson makes it even more unforgiveable to me. If its a player who you know is going to throw himself to the floor at the first opportunity, why on earth would you charge into the back of him. You can't tell me any of them were given without obvious contact. It was completely braindead (and, like i say, he wasnt alone - i just highlighted him, because he was the one who did 3, in quick succession, at a crucial point. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Wednesday, January 15, 09:36:23am (NoHost/84.69.53.52)
- It’s tricky v Paqueta, he’s smart, he’s a big powerful player, sometimes he’ll take the contact and he won a lot in the air against our CBs, other times he rolls around after the slightest contact. Robbo’s success is built on his aggressive nature, getting in to the face of saka/salah etc, winning ball in transition when they’re not set, higher risk and won’t always get it right. (NT) -- Henry1879, Wednesday, January 15, 09:44:10am (croy-26-b2-v4wan-167127-cust1611.vm24.cable.virginm.net/82.38.22.76)
- We have everything bar the regular goalscorers, we had 7 chances before they score the 1st. We scored 2 flukes with all those chances (NT) -- Waterboy, Wednesday, January 15, 09:25:48am (NoHost/81.79.89.125)
- Well Wilson is regular compared to the minutes hes had and he'd buy that one that hit the crossbar 95 times out of a 100. Raul header, not a great chance, can't think of many more. The best chance was Lukic's near the end, but he's far from a goalscorer anyway. If we could defend/not gift goals properly we'd win the game, but you always seem obsessed with blaming goalscoring (NT) -- Jim© The Devon IP, Wednesday, January 15, 09:32:20am (62-64-192-58.virtual1.co.uk/62.64.192.58)
- Waterboy I know this is the same thing every single time, but how can you watch last night and think, we need scorers. You can’t concede 3 away from home, 2 absolutely give away snd the other not much better, and think yeh we need to score more. We middle of the pack for goals scored, last night was a mental issue, lack of concentration, urgency, focus. We spread the goals out fine, Wilson, Iwobi, Raul will all end up with 7/8+. (NT) -- Henry1879, Wednesday, January 15, 09:56:33am (croy-26-b2-v4wan-167127-cust1611.vm24.cable.virginm.net/82.38.22.76)
- Re Pereira - was a hospital pass from Leno. (NT) -- MH, Wednesday, January 15, 09:43:40am (customer.sydyaus1.pop.starlinkisp.net/65.181.3.6)
- when you pass back to Leno from the edge of their box, you cause your own problems. too keen to go backwards against the poorer sides. (NT) -- no plan B, Wednesday, January 15, 09:45:22am (host86-153-178-227.range86-153.btcentralplus.com/86.153.178.227)
- Agree it was maddening. We do have these matches in us under Silva. Wolves away last season was similar - injuries, poor form, we looked completely comfortable and somehow contrived to lose. I guess the only hope is that they are all very pissed off about it and react in the right way on Saturday (NT) -- JamieR, Wednesday, January 15, 10:23:16am (NoHost/171.33.195.182)
- Pointing fingers -- Rich Allen c_wormbridge, Wednesday, January 15, 08:14:10am (NoHost/51.37.87.116)
ESR and Andereson on the biggest contracts in club history.
Both are making a mockery of the club and the faith Silva put in them.
Shame on the two of them
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- To be fair Marco doesn’t have to keep picking them though, especially when we have better options. Can see why the clubs b don’t want to give him any money in this window though. (NT) -- Hg, Wednesday, January 15, 08:24:58am (NoHost/31.94.34.15)
- ESR confidence rock.Anderson not the same since injury. As for letting families down fcs! It’s not deliberate you know. (NT) -- CB, Wednesday, January 15, 09:07:19am (213-18-164-61.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.164.61)
- Please let this be a WUM (NT) -- ASPT, Wednesday, January 15, 11:04:34am (114-129-187-208.ip4.superloop.au/114.129.187.208)
- Agreed - Anderson is too slow as for ESR it’s like playing with 10 men (NT) -- Fulham Russ, Wednesday, January 15, 08:05:25pm (NoHost/90.217.14.104)
- Disappointed I know but. -- Don’t Stop Believing, Wednesday, January 15, 03:08:15am (host-217-8-22-33.as13285.net/217.8.22.33)
But the first premier season I’ve known where we are constantly playing the so called superior football teams on a level footing no more Alamo matches camped in our own half we’ve come a long way.
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- I see.... -- ASPT, Wednesday, January 15, 02:51:05am (110-174-30-142.tpgi.com.au/110.174.30.142)
That we lose to an established Premiership side, our first loss in 8 or 9, away from home by the odd goal and the World is ending, Anderson and Robinson are terrible at association football and the season is over.
Lucky I come here or I would have not realised any of that
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- Obviously the Robinson stuff below is ridiculous. He was good, again, today. But its understandable that people are a but worried about two of our most expensive ever signings, in ESR and Andersen. And I think, while we sit comfortably mid-table, it is not surprising that people are disappointed given the struggles against poor teams, the thrown-away points, and the sense that this season might be our best chance to achieve more before possibly losing Marco and Robinson (NT) -- eganonoa, Wednesday, January 15, 03:23:23am (pool-108-18-149-21.washdc.fios.verizon.net/108.18.149.21)
- its the passing back and across the was our undoing. Too predictable (NT) -- onwards, Wednesday, January 15, 07:17:01am (host86-153-178-227.range86-153.btcentralplus.com/86.153.178.227)
- Depressed -- Greenpole, Tuesday, January 14, 11:56:33pm (82-132-234-210.dab.02.net/82.132.234.210)
Definitely feels like our season just beginning to lose momentum which is deeply frustrating, we've just shot ourselves in the foot far too many times now. ESR and Anderson for 70m starting to weigh quite heavy on decision making processes.
Weirdly not enjoying it at the moment cause this is the only chance we will have to do anything really really special and we're throwing it away tbh. Typical Fulham.
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- Josh King -- Al, Tuesday, January 14, 10:45:05pm (NoHost/193.17.86.250)
In the few minutes he was on the pitch contributed more than ESR. Got to start on Saturday IMHO.
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- ESR - best roll on the pitch?? -- Slimtim, Tuesday, January 14, 10:30:41pm (92.40.170.254.threembb.co.uk/92.40.170.254)
What is the best position for ESR on the pitch? Seriously questions or best jokes; feel free. Like a lot of our players he pops up here and there, all over the pitch. Perhaps he's best as the star player in a Championship team built around him?? He won't get that with us. I think we're guilty of not giving the ball to him enough but can understand why we don't when he doesn't produce a lot. He does look overweight a touch. Adama and Robison have a lack of composure. Robbo much less than Adama. Adama, side foot the ball into the net instead of blasting it?! We don't play to Adamas strengths so don't bother playing him bring on Sess. Don't think we need any signings in January.
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- Re: ESR - best roll on the pitch?? Cheese and pickle by the look of him ! (NT) -- View from the Riverside, Tuesday, January 14, 10:34:38pm (NoHost/2.218.9.12)
- I’m at the point where I think he and Anderson, are only playing because Marco wasted a lot of money on them. Neither are terrible players, but neither are anywhere near as good as our other options. A lot on here keep saying we have a great squad, well if they aren’t dropped for some of these great squad players in the next game, we will know they are playing because of how much they cost and not what they bring to the team (NT) -- Hg, Tuesday, January 14, 10:36:16pm (NoHost/31.94.34.15)
- Someone said prior that ESR needs his emotional support animal in Iwobi and I tend to agree. He needs to play on the left of that central midfield three, not the right of it. Unfortunately, Andreas is better there also. I suppose if Iwobi plays right then ESR could go there. He just seems a bit lost without him. (NT) -- eganonoa, Tuesday, January 14, 11:20:09pm (pool-108-18-149-21.washdc.fios.verizon.net/108.18.149.21)
- is it just me ???? -- greenpole1 (wtf), Tuesday, January 14, 10:28:49pm (host81-152-176-18.range81-152.btcentralplus.com/81.152.176.18)
is it just me,but I'm not getting this love in with Robinson.never have and never will.cash in now..absolutely shit with his crosses.what is the point
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- It'll be the 9 assists (NT) -- SW, Tuesday, January 14, 10:50:20pm (cos2-04-b2-v4wan-171525-cust1783.vm10.cable.virginm.net/82.10.46.248)
- Re: is it just me ???? -- greenpole1 (really), Tuesday, January 14, 11:00:23pm (host81-152-176-18.range81-152.btcentralplus.com/81.152.176.18)
- I agree with you. He’s rapid which makes everyone forget his negatives. Poor crossing and positional awareness are just a number of things that frustrate me (NT) -- Turbo man, Wednesday, January 15, 12:39:17am (575008b0.skybroadband.com/87.80.8.176)
- This is a bad take. Nearly everything good goes through him. His work rate and defensive nous is great. his crossing has improved. He is easily one of the three top attacking LBs in the Premiership which means he's one of the best in the World (NT) -- ASPT, Wednesday, January 15, 01:40:50am (110-174-30-142.tpgi.com.au/110.174.30.142)
- What can you say after that -- JamieR, Tuesday, January 14, 10:22:29pm (82-132-232-236.dab.02.net/82.132.232.236)
A total freak game, Potter must feel like the luckiest fcuker in London town. Surely the worst performance by a team scoring three goals in Premier League history.
As for us.. the lack of ruthlessness is becoming a major issue and basically the difference between us having a Nottingham Forest type season and this - tenth again. That's five points dropped to West Ham alone.
Obviously there were massive errors but the first half an hour was also an issue - silent stadium, zero threat from the opposition and we failed to take advantage, too slow with the ball, passive, sleepwalking through the game. ESR woke up a bit in the period before he was subbed by prior to that he was worryingly anonymous again. I actually thought Pereira was better today other than that awful giveaway.
Still. Brain fades from Leno, Pereira, Traore... Silva must be tearing his hair out. I guess we just hope he can motivate them into a reaction on Saturday, three points needed or the season really starts to lose momentum
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- Time to change things again -- Gutted, Tuesday, January 14, 10:20:16pm (host86-191-39-143.range86-191.btcentralplus.com/86.191.39.143)
Marco said we are having a quiet transfer month but tonight shows we need some fresh blood. This is not a knee jerk reaction but once again we have shot ourselves in the foot.
Leno should be given a rest but is Benda good enough!
Perreira is 29 if we can get £18m for him even with Man U getting 10% sell on it is still a profit. If we could replace him McAtee in it would improve us massively.
Rowe what has happened to him? For the older fan he looks like Brian Dear but not as fast. Needs too improve his fitness.
Hope Berge is back on Saturday and Perreira is off. Really cannot see why we would offer him a contract extension.
Tonight sums up why we can forgot about Euope. Too many points dropped against poor sides.
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- Some players going backwards -- View from the Riverside, Tuesday, January 14, 09:47:40pm (NoHost/2.218.9.12)
There are some players in the squad who are excellent and then there are those that bring less and less with every game. In fact are going backwards.
Adama is top of that list . Pinnacle of his career the city game … not the same player since. I don’t see the point, I really don’t.. he has no composure. None.
ESR, we are in January and he looks fat. How many months does it take to lose 10 lbs? How many games to get match fit and complete 90 mins? Are you really telling me we need to write off a season to see him complete a game? Something is wrong there and Arsenal must have known it. Compare him to the current Arsenal midfield three .. who are lean, fit and can last 90 mins pressing …
Andersen, not going backwards but not standing still, maybe sliding backwards.
Similarly TC . Cairney has been a great servant for the club but is now anonymous: Time catches up with all of us so he can be forgiven. Thanks for a great career at FFC.
Players improving - Iwobi, Wilson, Bassey, Diop; Berge; Robinson, even Raul is having a second chapter as is Sess. King looks promising … but Adama and ESR ‘need a kick up the arse.
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- How did we contrive to lose that to that bunch of shite.Totally ridiculous.What is wrong with Leno this season? -- HemelRog, Tuesday, January 14, 09:34:57pm (5ec0f8a7.skybroadband.com/94.192.248.167)
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- Leno why? We get back in the game we dominated the game and he dawdled on the ball. We should never have lost this game against a poor side. Even at the end we should have equalised. Shame to end an un beaten run by giving the game away. -- Honest, Tuesday, January 14, 09:33:59pm (host86-130-159-149.range86-130.btcentralplus.com/86.130.159.149)
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- Traore. Couldn’t hit a banjo with a cows arse. -- He’s been poor all season., Tuesday, January 14, 09:31:56pm (host86-188-64-123.range86-188.btcentralplus.com/86.188.64.123)
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- King looks good how did lukic and then adama miss 🤦♂️ -- Button, Tuesday, January 14, 09:31:32pm (nmal-23-b2-v4wan-169190-cust1261.vm24.cable.virginm.net/80.5.116.238)
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- Leno strikes again FFS -- Ffc, Tuesday, January 14, 09:00:05pm (host86-184-94-232.range86-184.btcentralplus.com/86.184.94.232)
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- Give the Doner Kebabs a break ESR not in North London now! -- Fulham Russ, Tuesday, January 14, 08:35:33pm (NoHost/31.94.72.189)
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- Joachim Anderson and ESR. Silva has lumbered us with 2 lemons here -- Danny Furlong, Tuesday, January 14, 08:17:50pm (NoHost/51.37.87.116)
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- There’s playing out from the back -- Ffc, Tuesday, January 14, 08:10:57pm (host86-184-94-232.range86-184.btcentralplus.com/86.184.94.232)
And there’s that …… FFS Fulham
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- ESR -- eXecutionEr, Tuesday, January 14, 08:08:52pm (mort-08-b2-v4wan-169357-cust1754.vm24.cable.virginm.net/92.233.182.219)
Agree with below. Not fit.
Currently on a par with Marlet and Mitroglu in terms of cost and disappointment
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- Ham 2 shots on target = 2 goals -- Waterboy, Tuesday, January 14, 08:06:38pm (NoHost/81.79.89.125)
Lack of any natural instinct in front of goal costs us every game
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- Shambles complete shambles -- Button, Tuesday, January 14, 08:06:17pm (nmal-23-b2-v4wan-169190-cust1261.vm24.cable.virginm.net/80.5.116.238)
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- Game over … thanks Andreas -- View from the Riverside, Tuesday, January 14, 08:05:18pm (NoHost/2.218.9.12)
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- Pereira can’t assist or score for us -- Does it no problem for West Ham, Tuesday, January 14, 08:05:06pm (575008b0.skybroadband.com/87.80.8.176)
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- ESR needs to lose 6lbs -- Bob, Tuesday, January 14, 07:59:02pm (NoHost/90.201.159.130)
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- Team -- eganonoa, Tuesday, January 14, 06:33:57pm (pool-108-18-149-21.washdc.fios.verizon.net/108.18.149.21)
Leno; Castagne, Andersen, Bassey, Robinson; Andreas, Lukic, ESR; Wilson, Raul, Iwobi
So harsh on Diop, but not unexpected. Nice to see the "band" back together, though, with the two attacking mids "in the
pockets," as Marco puts it.
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- Periiera -- Hg, Tuesday, January 14, 01:12:59pm (cpc141402-brnt4-2-0-cust971.4-2.cable.virginm.net/86.9.199.204)
Although it doesn’t really mean much, the Brazilian team who wanted him have today agreed a deal with city to sell them their teenage centre back for 30 million quid. I know nothing of their finances so don’t know how much they have to invest, but they might possibly have the money for him after all. Me personally I wouldn’t dream of selling our first choice cm, unless we had someone in the door first
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- Take the money and run. (NT) -- GA, Tuesday, January 14, 02:54:18pm (ool-18b90125.dyn.optonline.net/24.185.1.37)
- Prompted by that interesting financial and the recent snippet (source uncertain) that his Spanish wife -- met while on loan there -- yearns for somewhere warmer than UK, Google led me to a Guardian article of Feb23: 'Fulham’s Andreas Pereira: ‘I got in the Brazil team mainly because of Mourinho.' He is loving it at FFC, but says that "quality wise the football in South America is the same level as Europe...people underestimate it." And "Patricia enjoyed the weather and living by the beach." (NT) -- b+w g., Tuesday, January 14, 03:14:10pm (68.52.159.143.dyn.plus.net/143.159.52.68)
- The hottest room is the kitchen. Tell her to get her arse in there and fix him a proper meal so he's in peak condition for us and to only leave that kitchen when she stops bitching about the weather... (NT) -- TT, Tuesday, January 14, 06:10:32pm (74-95-251-150-Houston.hfc.comcastbusiness.net/74.95.251.150)
- I would have taken 20m if that's correct regardless how he played v the mighty Watford. Ok hope he performs as well tonight. He still has a lot to prove (NT) -- CB, Tuesday, January 14, 06:46:15pm (213-18-164-61.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.164.61)
- ESR to start tonight ? -- Mickey, Tuesday, January 14, 09:09:22am (host86-149-156-201.range86-149.btcentralplus.com/86.149.156.201)
Would be good to see his link-up play with Robinson and Iwobi as per early season . AP to partner him both in front of Lukic in games where we don’t use 2 DCMs. I know many are frustrated with him not making more of an impact , but tonight and this Saturday are surely excellent opportunities to demonstrate that of which he is capable : going past players in tight situations and picking out incisive passes. The kind of player his former Club could now do with !
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- Valid points but if Berge fit then would play him & Pereira with Lukic for tonight’s game! Midfield likely to be where game is won or lost. Might need a bit of work ethic for a period of time this evening and not sure he’ll give us that? Leicester away totally agree! (NT) -- MLC, Tuesday, January 14, 09:21:42am (NoHost/104.28.86.109)
- Of course he should play if he does what we know he can do. Problem as we know is that he really isn't - he's peripheral and tentative. There'll be reasons which Marco will know and we don't and personally I'd assume that Marco knows what he's doing with ESR. He may need to play but equally there may be work needed before he should. (NT) -- The Man With No Name, Tuesday, January 14, 09:33:24am (238.75.189.80.dyn.plus.net/80.189.75.238)
- Re: ESR to start tonight ?: Agree entirely if fit, believe he will start tonight. Immensely talented player and adds to our attacking threat. (NT) -- Honest, Tuesday, January 14, 10:12:28am (NoHost/85.255.236.41)
- Re: ESR to start tonight ? (NT) -- Be surprised Berge starts tonight maybe bench, Tuesday, January 14, 10:33:16am (host-217-8-22-33.as13285.net/217.8.22.33)
- Mental & anxiety issues may be more difficult to conquer than physical injuries. His talent is not in question, but I reckon Marco will coax him back gradually. A full 90’ seems a lot to expect at this juncture. (NT) -- Bad Boy, Tuesday, January 14, 10:34:24am (NoHost/2.222.160.125)
- Depends if he is up for the fight, new manager with crowd back behind their players again will inevitably fire them up more so under the previous chap (NT) -- Waterboy, Tuesday, January 14, 10:42:01am (lanc-08-b2-v4wan-168332-cust3678.vm14.cable.virginm.net/80.5.238.95)
- I’d rather play Wilson. This is a weak westham team and we should go out them from the off. No negative formations or selections tonight please Marco. (NT) -- Hg, Tuesday, January 14, 12:34:50pm (cpc141402-brnt4-2-0-cust971.4-2.cable.virginm.net/86.9.199.204)
- Hearing a horrible rumour -- Fkev, Monday, January 13, 08:45:11pm (134.122.199.146.dyn.plus.net/146.199.122.134)
If/when Ange goes, Spurs are lining up Silva. Hopefully it’s bs
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- Surprised no one has been in for Marco, what he has achieved with this group is amazing really. Also suprised Frank is never looked at (NT) -- Waterboy, Monday, January 13, 10:00:43pm (NoHost/84.67.194.156)
- Not sure he would go there, (NT) -- Swig, Monday, January 13, 10:07:42pm (054260fa.skybroadband.com/5.66.96.250)
- Hopefully he gets on the blower to Nuno and asks why he couldn't succeed there. I am scared Alanos is about to double-down on his crazy conspiracy theory (NT) -- ASPT, Tuesday, January 14, 08:08:54am (NoHost/147.161.215.91)
- Nuno didn’t succeed because he’s a largely defensive, counter attack style coach, not suited to a ‘bigger’ team where teams will come and defend against you. Bit like Moyes at Utd or hodgson at Liverpool, their style and organising is great for a mid/lower table prem team, makes teams hard to beat, but not when fans expect to be on the front foot, he was never the right fit for spurs. Silva teams can play many ways and can be the front foot team. (NT) -- Henry1879, Tuesday, January 14, 09:05:58am (croy-26-b2-v4wan-167127-cust1611.vm24.cable.virginm.net/82.38.22.76)
- Doesn’t really explain Jose Mourhino’s success or how Forest are playing this year. Nuno failed at Spurs for the same reason everyone does there. Controlling board who do not invest enough. (NT) -- ASPT, Tuesday, January 14, 10:08:21am (114-129-187-208.ip4.superloop.au/114.129.187.208)
- It does, nuno is succeeding playing low possession, counter attack football for forest, teams come on to them, it’s a perfect fit, mourinho left because his football was seen as too negative and wasn’t tolerated by fans and board. Wether it’s right or wrong spurs fans and board want a front foot, attacking team, they see themselves as top6 and teams will come and defend against them, Nuno nor Mourinho provide that, their error was not backing Poch more when they made champs league final. (NT) -- Henry1879, Tuesday, January 14, 11:33:45am (82-132-222-53.dab.02.net/82.132.222.53)
- Spirs are struggling because they are a really ordinary side, with an entitled fanbase that would probably make Marco as uncomfortable as he was at Everton. We must offer to extend his contract in the summer, with a hefty pay rise to show our appreciation. He realises his mistakes of the past, and can now leave a real legacy. (NT) -- Rupert, Tuesday, January 14, 11:51:21am (5ec14628.skybroadband.com/94.193.70.40)
- How did you receive this rumour, and where does it originate from? It would not surprise me if he did go there next season, but I don't really trust you as a source for information, because to me you have had a very active confirmation bias when it comes to health matters. (NT) -- Juana Aorta, Tuesday, January 14, 02:39:27pm (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
- After tonight’s game, this is why he would go. (NT) -- Swig, Tuesday, January 14, 10:24:09pm (054260fa.skybroadband.com/5.66.96.250)
- We have the winner of Mansfield vs wogan, away in next round of the cup. -- Hg, Sunday, January 12, 06:08:44pm (cpc141402-brnt4-2-0-cust971.4-2.cable.virginm.net/86.9.199.204)
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- Re: We have the winner of Mansfield vs wogan, away in next round of the cup. (NT) -- Woolfy (Wemberleeee), Sunday, January 12, 06:13:16pm (finc-16-b2-v4wan-164434-cust847.vm7.cable.virginm.net/86.20.171.80)
- Let's hope Mansfield beat Wigan as I live forty minutes away. (NT) -- Jamie, Sunday, January 12, 06:14:24pm (host86-186-220-16.range86-186.btcentralplus.com/86.186.220.16)
- Rotten train journey to Mansfield. Direct trains to Wigan. (NT) -- Observer, Sunday, January 12, 06:24:54pm (NoHost/90.192.125.76)
- Good luck Terry! (NT) -- ASPT, Sunday, January 12, 07:32:34pm (114-129-187-208.ip4.superloop.au/114.129.187.208)
- Isnt Wigan a very poor playing surface cos of the Rugby Lweague? (NT) -- Al, Sunday, January 12, 07:35:44pm (NoHost/193.17.86.250)
- Please Mansfield. Not done that stadium. (NT) -- Tala, Sunday, January 12, 08:10:24pm (NoHost/104.28.40.140)
- Mansfield. I’m sure I was there when we got promoted under Adams. Just needed a point. 0-0. Loads of Fulham. Jimmy Hill came over and gave a little dance. (NT) -- Alfred E Neuman, Sunday, January 12, 09:34:39pm (host86-188-64-123.range86-188.btcentralplus.com/86.188.64.123)
- Coaches from the Legion at Parsons Green for that night at Field Mill...great pre match pub...what a night. (NT) -- Barney Travers, Sunday, January 12, 11:29:14pm (NoHost/90.202.69.214)
- One of the away 0-0s that cost us the title - hereford and doncaster also come to mind - still rankles wigan stole it off us as we'd have joined an exclusive club that has won all 3 football leagues. (NT) -- Rupert, Monday, January 13, 09:17:22am (5ec14628.skybroadband.com/94.193.70.40)
- tbh i always thought that it was one of the disappointing home defeats against the likes of Torquay, Lincoln, Northampton and funnily enough, Mansfield, that cost us the title, rather than anything away. It was our best season for years on the road - didn't we only lose 4 away from home all season? (NT) -- Same Old Story, Monday, January 13, 01:44:07pm (NoHost/84.69.53.52)
- We live in hope (NT) -- Ra's al Ghul (🤣), Monday, January 13, 01:52:25pm (NoHost/212.132.246.99)
- So rude. This place is a dump, this place is a hole etc. It's true what other fans say about us, we really are a bunch of pathetic Ruperts. (NT) -- Embarrassing, Monday, January 13, 04:22:11am (NoHost/90.213.242.75)
- You might be.Most off us aren’t.Liverpool is a great city for all its faults.Most of the towns in Notts. and Derbys.less so. (NT) -- HemelRog, Monday, January 13, 05:22:25am (5ec0f8a7.skybroadband.com/94.192.248.167)
- Yes but you live in the 'roundabout town', famous for, well roundabouts and little else. People who live in glass houses........ (NT) -- Juana Aorta, Monday, January 13, 08:29:56am (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
- And Paddington Bear now ! (NT) -- LOL, Monday, January 13, 08:46:56am (host31-48-23-179.range31-48.btcentralplus.com/31.48.23.179)
- Ha how about two cricket clubs,Henry v111,Ski Centre,Surrounded by nice countryside and so forth.Just a couple of miles away Berkhamsted Castle(Black Prince),Graham Greene and Ashridge.Still ignorance is bliss(I should know).Plenty of nice countryside in Notts. and Derbys.It’s just the attitude and politics in some of the towns.Suggest you get off your high horse and get out of London occasionally. (NT) -- HemelRog, Monday, January 13, 09:03:03am (5ec0f8a7.skybroadband.com/94.192.248.167)
- Only slightly tongue in cheek. (NT) -- HemelRog, Monday, January 13, 09:39:46am (5ec0f8a7.skybroadband.com/94.192.248.167)
- "Suggest you get off your high horse and get out of London occasionally". I live in Reading. I lived in Barnet for the first 20 years of my life, then lived in Enfield, Bedford, South Oxfordshire, and now Reading for the last 30 years. I'm sure HH has it's good points, most places do, but the negative spot light only misses HH because Luton and Milton Keynes are nearby. I know of 3 people who have lived in Mansfield and no longer do. I know the reasons why too. (NT) -- Juana Aorta, Monday, January 13, 10:18:53am (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
- Bakewell, Buxton really? Derbyshire is one of the most beautiful counties. (NT) -- The Man With No Name, Monday, January 13, 08:47:31am (238.75.189.80.dyn.plus.net/80.189.75.238)
- I would hate to be called a "rupert" by some random opposing fan I've never met, so I think I had better clarify about Wigan and Mansfield. Both towns suffer from being overwhelmed by the sheer weight of tourists visiting. Sometime the queues to get on the pier at Wigan are appalling, Georfge Orwell himself mentioned it. As for Mansfield, the glory of the Parkway station can be simply overwhelming. (NT) -- GTS, Monday, January 13, 09:05:54am (static-customer-assignment.goskope.com/24.206.97.75)
- Too much class warfare on here - what does it matter if you're a Rupert or not - remember it's the Ruperts that turned Fulham into such a desirable place which is one of the reasons our ground is so admired. (NT) -- Rupert, Monday, January 13, 09:20:20am (5ec14628.skybroadband.com/94.193.70.40)
- Best FA Cup draw in years IMO. Would love Mansfield (haven't visited since that game), but Wigan is ok as well, and either one is a new ground for me son so he's well happy. He literally cheered when our name got pulled out of the hat! (NT) -- Same Old Story, Monday, January 13, 01:50:53pm (NoHost/84.69.53.52)
- Fulham Womens - £1 was it too much to pay for that? -- gezza, Sunday, January 12, 04:39:51pm (nosoignons.cust.milkywan.net/80.67.167.81)
simply horrific? Remember they charged money for it.
It wasnt a freebie. Maybe they should offer ST holders free entry next time?
too harsh? where was the footballing skills on display from our Ladies side today? hoof ball? Marco needs to have a word with their Coach. Or maybe TK should out some time and effort in recruiting better players for them? They represent so need to 'decent' at the very least.
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- Remind me how much everyone payed for the wolves game? They played a teams leagues above them. (NT) -- Hg, Sunday, January 12, 04:48:23pm (cpc141402-brnt4-2-0-cust971.4-2.cable.virginm.net/86.9.199.204)
- I was also there,sorry ffc but I have seen better under 5 football.Are there worse team than ffc I can’t believe it but to go with such high expectations and to be so disappointed and frozen to boot..London lions were far superior it could have been 10-0. (NT) -- Fulham steve, Sunday, January 12, 05:41:39pm (97e10f4f.skybroadband.com/151.225.15.79)
- Wouldn't leave the house to watch any of it, it's a different game to what we watch. to compare to mens football, it's an inferior product (NT) -- Waterboy, Sunday, January 12, 06:08:53pm (NoHost/148.252.128.137)
- Unless a family member or friend in the line up, you couldnt pay me enough to go out in the cold and watch that garbage (NT) -- Smell it, Sunday, January 12, 06:41:40pm (maid-09-b2-v4wan-169800-cust2795.vm41.cable.virginm.net/92.239.74.236)
- Watched first 2 minutes and Fulham passed it out of play twice and switched off! Pub football and Sundays and they want to push for equal pay and half the sponsorship cake the men’s teams bring in. Dream on. Even woman have no interest in woman’s football so why should us lads (NT) -- Dog N Duck, Sunday, January 12, 08:16:38pm (575008b0.skybroadband.com/87.80.8.176)
- Fulham should scrap the women's team. Waste of money. (NT) -- PC nonsense, Sunday, January 12, 08:33:24pm (host86-191-39-143.range86-191.btcentralplus.com/86.191.39.143)
- Feel like some of you are ready to join the taliban and ban woman from sports schools and jobs. Woman do not compare their game to the men’s game, and they play because they want to and love doing so. No one forces you to watch them, and our girls are having a great season in their league with yesterday being their first loss of the season. Like I say you don’t have to watch them, but you could at least get behind them as after all they are FULHAM (NT) -- Hg, Monday, January 13, 08:43:20am (NoHost/31.94.64.40)
- I don’t care if these girls play football or not. I just wish the Club would not waste money on this dreadful product. I find the way they hype it up on the website very amusing. (NT) -- Go, Monday, January 13, 06:39:12pm (host86-191-39-143.range86-191.btcentralplus.com/86.191.39.143)
- On the other hand .... The women's world cup was a huge success and was very widely watched. Women's football has an ever growing following amongst women. No it will never be at the same level as men's, any more than athletics or rugby. But it's a very valuable sporting outlet for young women and I see it as a good thing that Fulham are investing what I'm sure is a comparatively small amount of money into a women's team which young women players at grass roots level can aspire to. (NT) -- MH, Tuesday, January 14, 05:05:24am (180-150-112-232.NBN.mel.aussiebb.net/180.150.112.232)
- FA Cup replays -- El Pato, Sunday, January 12, 03:51:08pm (host-89-243-8-175.as13285.net/89.243.8.175)
It seems a shame that cup replays have been abolished. If Tamworth v Spurs had finished 0-0 after 90 minutes, Tamworth would have been really happy with a draw and the whole town would be celebrating right now. It would also mean their players and fans would get a second bite at the cherry and the experience of playing at a big ground. From a financial point of view, the replay would have been huge for them.
The FA want to reduce fixture congestion, which might benefit the bigger clubs, but the tip of the pyramid wouldn't exist without the base. As an organisation in charge of football at a national level, it has to be question whether this was a good decision.
Perhaps they shouldn't have expanded the Champions League and other European competitions. Perhaps they shouldn't expand the Club World Cup. Perhaps they should stop trying to squeeze yet more out of top-level men's football. Perhaps instead they should look at investing in lower-level football, grassroots/youth football, or the women's game
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- I agree generally but of course the FA has sweet FA to do with the expansion of European competitions. Personally I think the FA should prioritise the FA Cup with unlimited replays and if big clubs prefer not to enter then fair enough. The biggest problem in football today is the ever increasing massive gap between the top clubs and the rest. (NT) -- The Man With No Name, Sunday, January 12, 04:02:00pm (238.75.189.80.dyn.plus.net/80.189.75.238)
- It’s tricky because big teams will start playing weakened teams and then there’ll be calls that the competition is not being respected and it will be an inferior cup. More of the prem money should permeate down the pyramid, but there’s no easy way of doing it and English football in general is in good health, the championsup is a fantastic league and I’m not sure there are any countries that sustain 5 pro leagues and have attendances and stadia down the pyramid like we do in England. (NT) -- Henry1879, Sunday, January 12, 04:27:23pm (croy-26-b2-v4wan-167127-cust1611.vm24.cable.virginm.net/82.38.22.76)
- You're right, the FA are subjects to the will of UEFA and FIFA in that sense. Those two organisations are the ones who want to squeeze the most out of the top level and not develop the lower levels (which adds to the gap in wages, as you mention). (NT) -- El Pato, Sunday, January 12, 04:28:08pm (host-89-243-8-175.as13285.net/89.243.8.175)
- It’s all nonsesne. Every single team from the championship below, plays a lot more games than the average prem team, and you never him them complain. (NT) -- Hg, Sunday, January 12, 04:44:17pm (cpc141402-brnt4-2-0-cust971.4-2.cable.virginm.net/86.9.199.204)
- No replays for me but I’d give home advantage to the team with lower league position on the day of the draw (NT) -- Andrew in Bath, Sunday, January 12, 04:56:04pm (NoHost/90.220.13.200)
- Be wonderful to win it but the Cup has been turned into a bauble no bigger than its distant cousin - being in the Premier league is all that matters - not saying its right but - (NT) -- Rupert, Monday, January 13, 10:00:26am (5ec14628.skybroadband.com/94.193.70.40)
- Beck-Ray Besongbap Enoru -- Al, Sunday, January 12, 01:34:35pm (NoHost/193.17.86.250)
Looking very sharp for Tamworth, continues to make Porro look like he's treading through treacle. Come on you Lambs. Maddison, still cheating.
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- The draw I’m dreading…..”Ball number 5, Burnley, are at home to…..ball number 31, Fulham -- Bad Boy, Sunday, January 12, 11:33:37am (NoHost/2.222.160.125)
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- We haven’t had city away for a year, so it must be nailed on. (NT) -- Hg, Sunday, January 12, 11:44:22am (cpc141402-brnt4-2-0-cust971.4-2.cable.virginm.net/86.9.199.204)
- Millwall at home should they get through? Another silly Thursday night game for the IPlayer! Viewers? (NT) -- Gary, Sunday, January 12, 12:49:21pm (host31-50-6-236.range31-50.btcentralplus.com/31.50.6.236)
- Whoever please not on a Thursday. -- Al, Sunday, January 12, 01:36:05pm (NoHost/193.17.86.250)
- Re: The draw I’m dreading…..”Ball number 5, Burnley, are at home to…..ball number 31, Fulham (NT) -- Mansfield would bring back lovely memories, Sunday, January 12, 07:29:41pm (host-217-8-22-33.as13285.net/217.8.22.33)
- McAtee -- Long Termer, Saturday, January 11, 09:01:35pm (host86-179-114-84.range86-179.btcentralplus.com/86.179.114.84)
I think that display accompanied by the fact it was televised has probably kyboshed any chance of us bidding for him or even more getting him. (If it was ever more then paper talk)
I would be very surprised if a loan arrangement would even be possible - shame really
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- My first thought also, but depends if he now can demand more game time. Truth is we need players on contract now not short term loan deals. (NT) -- CB, Saturday, January 11, 10:31:46pm (213-18-164-61.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.164.61)
- Why would you want to loan him. Godo and Josh king, the players that play the same position as him, also played really well in the cup. Except they did it against a championship team and not a fourth division team. If we are going to try and get a youngster up to speed for premiership football, then it should be one of our own youngsters. Let city do their own dirty work (NT) -- Hg, Sunday, January 12, 01:17:05am (cpc141402-brnt4-2-0-cust971.4-2.cable.virginm.net/86.9.199.204)
- I was thinking that when he outscored all our CMs in 1 game! (NT) -- Waterboy, Sunday, January 12, 09:23:55am (NoHost/84.65.35.84)
- In one game against a fourth division team. If we want to drop a tonne of money on him for a permanent transfer, then I can get behind that, but a short term loan that will only really benefit city, no stuff that, melt them do their own dirty work (NT) -- Hg, Sunday, January 12, 09:58:32am (cpc141402-brnt4-2-0-cust971.4-2.cable.virginm.net/86.9.199.204)
- What if signing him on loan means he comes in, scores some goals/assists and contributes to us finishing 2 or 3 places higher, thus giving us nearly 10m more income, potentially get into Europe and help attract more players in the summer? He’s far more advanced than king or godo, with a load of u21 caps, nearly 100 senior games and 2 quality champ seasons behind him. (NT) -- Henry1879, Sunday, January 12, 10:39:29am (croy-26-b2-v4wan-167127-cust1611.vm24.cable.virginm.net/82.38.22.76)
- And if he doesn’t do what you said , then we have wasted valuable experience for our own youth. Plus he is an attacking kid who can play on the wing, two areas where we are not lacking in personnel. Am we have Wilson esr and king. Wide we have iwobi adama and Wilson Godo and another’s club youngster if he ever gets fit. Real look y don’t see the need or point of a loan, unless city give us loads of money to get him up to speed (NT) -- Hg, Sunday, January 12, 11:38:12am (cpc141402-brnt4-2-0-cust971.4-2.cable.virginm.net/86.9.199.204)
- You said it will only benefit city, it won’t, if he came in & played well. Godo has had 1 ok loan spell in L1, king is 17 with a handful of minutes, mcatee is a different level of player, who’d probably improve our starting XI, let alone squad, give us a better chance of finishing in Europe, it’s prem first team football, not FFC youth development. Ideally a loan with option to buy, but if he gave us 3 months for a few mil and that edged us in to a Europe spot, it’s a great move for all. (NT) -- Henry1879, Sunday, January 12, 12:16:48pm (croy-26-b2-v4wan-167127-cust1611.vm24.cable.virginm.net/82.38.22.76)
- Partially agree never understand this not developing players for other clubs stance.If it benefits us on the field then a plus for me.Having said that we need to nurture our own prospects especially King who looks the real deal.So have others of course. (NT) -- HemelRog, Sunday, January 12, 11:47:32am (5ec0f8a7.skybroadband.com/94.192.248.167)
- Romain Esse’s Going to palace great bit of business I would have loved Fulham to sign him he is so skilful fast and his crossing and decision making will improve with a good manager and better players in training. Could be the next Olise or Zaha -- Button, Saturday, January 11, 07:04:26pm (nmal-23-b2-v4wan-169190-cust1261.vm24.cable.virginm.net/80.5.116.238)
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- Briliant goal from Whittaker against the Bees! -- GA, Saturday, January 11, 04:42:32pm (ool-18b90125.dyn.optonline.net/24.185.1.37)
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- Please please plymouth away 4th round dear football god! (NT) -- Greenpole, Saturday, January 11, 04:57:02pm (82-132-232-127.dab.02.net/82.132.232.127)
- Fantastic result. Plymouth can't buy away wins and yet. Well done the greens! (NT) -- CB, Saturday, January 11, 04:58:29pm (213-18-164-61.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.164.61)
- Loving that. Would like a nice 20 mile away day at argyle now in next round (NT) -- Jim © (The Devon IP), Saturday, January 11, 04:58:58pm (host81-140-255-65.range81-140.btcentralplus.com/81.140.255.65)
- Plymouth Hoe ! Hoe ! Hoe ! (NT) -- My nearest league ground 150 Mile round trip, Saturday, January 11, 05:07:08pm (2e409fa8.skybroadband.com/46.64.159.168)
- Clinton Morrison live on Sky…..”Carvalho not good enough in this Brentford team….slow, too many touches…” Harsh but fair. Found his level at Hull. (NT) -- Bad Boy, Saturday, January 11, 05:31:08pm (NoHost/2.222.160.125)
- I can see you Devon boy's points, but my memory of Plymouth in the Cup is that prick Grobelaar making obscene gestures and getting hammered!!! (NT) -- GTS, Saturday, January 11, 07:04:01pm (331315a5.skybroadband.com/51.19.21.165)
- Plymouth. Always a bogey team in the cup when you're doing well (NT) -- Those who were there, Sunday, January 12, 01:36:28am (NoHost/193.203.14.27)
- United game -- Al, Saturday, January 11, 09:10:26am (NoHost/193.17.86.250)
Surprised to see quite a lot of seats still remain for this game. Guess crazy KO time doesn't help but very surprised. It might go on general sale!
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- Difficult time if you rely on Sunday train services and come a distance. Same with younger kids who attend Friday or Saturday but not when the next say is school. Also crap time for away fans, including the odd Utd fan who actually comes from Manchester (NT) -- Going, Saturday, January 11, 12:34:51pm (host86-191-39-143.range86-191.btcentralplus.com/86.191.39.143)
- ??? From what I can see on the seating plan - Johnny Haynes, Hammersmith and Putney End all sold out. Perhaps 1,000 left in Riverside at £150 a pop - game still two weeks away, it will sell out, don't worry! (NT) -- p, Saturday, January 11, 12:35:03pm (NoHost/90.213.242.75)
- Worth noting that no south west trains to Wimbledon that day either if you come in from that way (NT) -- Waterboy, Saturday, January 11, 01:01:39pm (NoHost/84.65.35.84)
- West Ham Tuesday night. Man Utd Sunday night. Happy I didn’t bother with a ST this year tbh. (NT) -- ., Saturday, January 11, 03:54:57pm (NoHost/45.88.190.251)
- Speedsters!! -- Gary, Friday, January 10, 08:30:46pm (host31-50-6-236.range31-50.btcentralplus.com/31.50.6.236)
Those two wide forwards of Westham Kudus & Somerville have some serious pace! Not sure there are any quicker than those two in premier league in those positions? Traore is quick but needs a bit of revving up to get going these two are explosive from the off.
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- Yes but how poor are Villa tonight? (NT) -- Alfred E Neuman, Friday, January 10, 08:46:48pm (host86-188-64-123.range86-188.btcentralplus.com/86.188.64.123)
- Summerville off for second half potential hamstring. And fulkruk def done hamstring or something similar. (NT) -- Hg, Friday, January 10, 09:06:41pm (cpc141402-brnt4-2-0-cust971.4-2.cable.virginm.net/86.9.199.204)
- We can beat this lot and have a score to settle - not a fan of lopetegui but their treatment of him was despicable which fits their bill - (NT) -- Rupert, Saturday, January 11, 08:03:41am (5ec14628.skybroadband.com/94.193.70.40)
- West Ham ok for an hour but then fell apart. Didn't look very fit at that point. (NT) -- Observer, Saturday, January 11, 08:35:35am (NoHost/90.192.125.76)
- Should we read anything into the return of a few players who were out on loan ? -- Recalled early ?, Friday, January 10, 06:57:45pm (host31-48-23-179.range31-48.btcentralplus.com/31.48.23.179)
Any thoughts from those of our fans who are gen'ed up on our academy players ?
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- What pleased me most -- Honest, Friday, January 10, 02:57:25pm (host86-130-159-141.range86-130.btcentralplus.com/86.130.159.141)
Was the performance last night. Much quicker tempo to our players. I thought the youngster's Godo and King did very well. Sessegnon had his best game since joining us and Cuenca looked very composed. Unlike some on here I thought Smith-Rowe did very well his one touch play, running with the ball and was unlucky not too score. A very talented player who as Marco Silva said needed that 60 minutes to get back to fitness after injury. Like all players needs a little time. Iwobi had another good game and Jiminez excellent when he came on. Muniz took his goal well but for me his hold up play and passing needs to improve. Nice to see Anderand Castagne getting their first goals. Pereira had his best performance for a while and was desperately unlucky not to score. All in all a very good night's work. MOM for me Sess. Nice to see him playing with confidence again.
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- Re: What pleased me most: Andersen not Anderand (NT) -- Honest 👍, Friday, January 10, 03:00:08pm (host86-130-159-141.range86-130.btcentralplus.com/86.130.159.141)
- I also thought ESR had a decent game?? Feels like he’s going to be taking Pereira’s mantle as next scapegoat for some reason. He’s been injured and getting back to fitness, just needs a bit of time, form is temporary, class is permanent. He‘ll come good again. (NT) -- .., Friday, January 10, 03:28:57pm (host86-170-55-83.range86-170.btcentralplus.com/86.170.55.83)
- I thought it was fun watching our back four operating basically as the midfield. The numbers are hilarious. Cuenca, 89 passes, 92% completed, 5 accurate long balls. Andersen 66 passes (in 65 mins!), 10 accurate long balls. Castagne, 72 passes, 90% accurate, 3 accurate long balls. Sess, 68 passes, 94% accurate, one through ball, more touches in their penalty area than any other player. (NT) -- eganonoa, Friday, January 10, 08:27:07pm (pool-108-18-149-21.washdc.fios.verizon.net/108.18.149.21)
- Traore was involved in almost everything (NT) -- MH, Saturday, January 11, 06:07:56am (180-150-112-232.NBN.mel.aussiebb.net/180.150.112.232)
- Re: What pleased me most (NT) -- I thought Lukic was outstanding bossing it., Saturday, January 11, 03:40:40pm (host-217-8-22-33.as13285.net/217.8.22.33)
- Ryan S -- View from the Riverside, Friday, January 10, 01:22:04pm (static-84-9-58-207.vodafonexdsl.co.uk/84.9.58.207)
Really enjoyed his performance last night and remember him before he moved to Spurs. I would give him a run out as the wide left attacker. Can cover for Robinson when he pushes forward as he has played LB and has a knack of arriving in the box at the right time. that's how he got his goals last time. I would move Iwobi to the RHS or behind the CF. It's not like we have anyone with pace out wide staking a claim other than Wilson and iwobi. I think he offers more than Nelson or Traore and leaves less exposed
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- Good thing you're not the manager then (NT) -- JF, Friday, January 10, 01:37:11pm (brnt-06-b2-v4wan-160985-cust77.vm7.cable.virginm.net/86.16.166.78)
- I thought he played really well last night too, but it would be madness to disrupt the Robinson/Iwobi partnership atm, when it is our most productive area of attack, they are both at the top of their game and seem to have an almost telepathic understanding of each other's game. I would say Sess would be a great late game replacement for Iwobi if it was needed tho (NT) -- SW, Friday, January 10, 02:13:21pm (cos2-04-b2-v4wan-171525-cust1783.vm10.cable.virginm.net/82.10.46.248)
- He seemed very focussed and made some great runs especially in the 2nd half. (NT) -- Al, Friday, January 10, 02:34:45pm (NoHost/193.17.86.250)
- Don't know why he hasn't been given more opportunities as an impact sub in the H mould - he is a left winger come forward - it's how he made his name - converting him into a left back or wingback has been as detrimental as his injuries - if we can get him back to 2018 form we've a player - he was being spoken about for the England squad then. (NT) -- Rupert, Saturday, January 11, 08:07:42am (5ec14628.skybroadband.com/94.193.70.40)
- ESR....where do we go from here? Struggled against a reserve Championship side -- Worried, Friday, January 10, 10:34:10am (NoHost/51.37.87.116)
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- Genuinely a problem now-reserve at best at present. So disappointing after a bright start here. (NT) -- Bob, Friday, January 10, 10:41:11am (NoHost/90.201.159.130)
- He drifts out of the game, when he loses it he simply gives up, such a shame, clearly a talent. (NT) -- Al, Friday, January 10, 11:10:21am (NoHost/193.17.86.250)
- Think it'll take this season to gain full fitness given his previous record with injuries. Arguably helped us earn a point against Ipswich with the sublime ball of the outside of his foot to Jiminez which resulted in the second equaliser. Give him time. (NT) -- FFC in Brighton., Friday, January 10, 11:10:32am (NoHost/84.71.246.31)
- he has not has nearly enough time. We’ve not seen him fully fit. A Silva10 is Avery unique position in an intricate system. He does need to improve but it will take time. (NT) -- ASPT, Friday, January 10, 11:13:06am (114-129-187-208.ip4.superloop.au/114.129.187.208)
- Don’t think he is the type to ever run a game as he makes a lot of runs in behind, but that means he should produce more goals/assists than someone like Perriera. Fitness snd getting up to speed with how we play also a factors took Iwobi/lukic/berge etc a while to flourish. Not easy playing bits and pieces for 4 years then being a regular starter, give him time, like anything progression isn’t always one constant upward trend. (NT) -- Henry1879, Friday, January 10, 11:32:57am (82-132-217-253.dab.02.net/82.132.217.253)
- Could we switch him to cm and get him to go box to box like peirera. As he can pass and drive with the ball when he wants. For me ibis bigger problem is that Wilson and even young Josh king look far better at attack mid than he does. (NT) -- Hg, Friday, January 10, 11:35:42am (NoHost/31.94.64.40)
- He isnt up for the fight against the physical team, we must not forget Marco has always got the best out of average players over time, so the talent of ESR will come good i am sure. He does need to toughen up a bit though (NT) -- Waterboy, Friday, January 10, 12:06:00pm (lanc-08-b2-v4wan-168332-cust3678.vm14.cable.virginm.net/80.5.238.95)
- King & Godot looked far more impressive than ESR yesterday, all of course IMHO. Would be interested in findinbg how how many pointless short passes from him to Awobi. (NT) -- Al, Friday, January 10, 12:18:17pm (NoHost/193.17.86.250)
- How long did it take Raul to start scoring? Lukic to look anything more than average? Bassey to look like more than a liability? He looked great at the start of the season with Robinson and Iwobi. He still provides something none of our midfielder do, able to turn and create space even when surrounded, an instinct to keep the ball moving instead of slowing it down, while being incisive and also safe. It'll all be fine (NT) -- eganonoa, Friday, January 10, 12:24:15pm (pool-108-18-149-21.washdc.fios.verizon.net/108.18.149.21)
- No he dud not linked play well carried the ball well and was unlucky not to score. As Marco said after the game he needed another 60 minutes to try and get him back to full fitness after injury. Why criticise a very talented young player needs a little time (NT) -- Honest, Friday, January 10, 02:40:28pm (host86-130-159-141.range86-130.btcentralplus.com/86.130.159.141)
- Match Day Plus ticket -don't bother -- View from the Riverside, Friday, January 10, 10:08:37am (static-84-9-58-207.vodafonexdsl.co.uk/84.9.58.207)
I sit in the riverside and have had season tickets there for 20 odd years. I thought I would use the Cup game to see what this Match Day Plus experience was like... £100 which I put through the company so got the VAT back as I took a client.
Well I wish I had not. Sat in the seats, four Watford Fans in front insisted on standing up, no stewards in sight as it was probably too cold for them! I tapped the fella on the shoulder, would you mind sitting down. "Fucking don't touch touch, I will stand if I fucking want to, what you going to do about it. fuck off you cunt" that was in the 3rd minute. Ok am used to a rough crowd sometimes but this was straight off the bat... So that set the tone. they eventually sat down. I know that is not all the club's fault but (a) where are the stewards (b) are they so greedy they sell those tickets to anyone? How do they screen the buyerS?
Food pre game was school dinner standard. Hot dogs on stale bun, deep fried chicken masquarading at Chicken Katsu, Veg option was deep fried sweet potato. There was not enough seating for all the guests and 1/3 were left with no where to sit, considering it opens 2 hrs before, and this was a quiet game. Was it worth it? Absolutely not. Poor experience compared to other grounds. I went corporate to the Blackpool and Bristol City games in the Championship and it was better value and far better experience.
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- Have you fed this information back to the club. Would be good for them to know so they can try and improve service and food. (NT) -- Juana Aorta, Friday, January 10, 10:45:07am (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
did they join in the "Marco Silva, you're a w*nker, you're a w*nker". song? (NT) -- same seats without matchdayplus £25???, Friday, January 10, 10:48:54am (ml148.spryraven.com/62.182.84.146)
- Nice to here you got the VAT back. (NT) -- Steer Calmer, Friday, January 10, 11:52:25am (5ec0f8a7.skybroadband.com/94.192.248.167)
- You shouldn't be claiming VAT back on client entertainment (NT) -- An Inspector calls, Friday, January 10, 12:13:04pm (82-132-215-100.dab.02.net/82.132.215.100)
- Just wondering where you got to sit in the Riverside, seemed like lots of spaces. (NT) -- Al, Friday, January 10, 12:19:56pm (NoHost/193.17.86.250)
- attendance -- woolfy, Friday, January 10, 09:11:17am (finc-16-b2-v4wan-164434-cust847.vm7.cable.virginm.net/86.20.171.80)
Anyone know last nights attendance? I'm guessing 13000
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- Funny that. Searched several prominent sports sites and no mention of. (NT) -- bs, Friday, January 10, 09:24:46am (NoHost/90.196.2.45)
- 15981. With 4300 odd being Watford. (NT) -- Hg, Friday, January 10, 09:34:24am (NoHost/31.94.72.121)
- The number of empty seats suggests that many supporters have been brainwashed into thinking only the Premier League matters. It may do, in terms of finance, but some of us follow football as a sport , not as a business. (NT) -- Dooley, Friday, January 10, 10:26:11am (seve-29-b2-v4wan-163452-cust742.vm13.cable.virginm.net/82.8.82.231)
- FA is destroying its own competition, Thursday night is mential, Fulham has a more widespread core support than clubs without plastics, and the potential of starting for whom not far short of 11pm if it went the distance made it a non starter. (NT) -- Rupert, Friday, January 10, 11:52:23am (NoHost/90.193.226.124)
- If it was 13k then we did well. Friday with same prices the attendance would have doubled albeit loads of young uns. (NT) -- Al, Friday, January 10, 12:37:59pm (NoHost/193.17.86.250)
- Sheffield united had 6000 (NT) -- Gloss white, Saturday, January 11, 02:05:50am (NoHost/90.209.231.243)
- My comment was aimed at the many fans who are supposedly priced out of attending games at the Cottage (NT) -- Dooley, Saturday, January 11, 09:00:34am (seve-29-b2-v4wan-163452-cust742.vm13.cable.virginm.net/82.8.82.231)
- Vata, sign him up -- Al, Friday, January 10, 08:33:02am (NoHost/193.17.86.250)
Apparently only 17, worth a punt with a shot like that? Had a reasonable game as well.
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- Enough? -- old codger, Friday, January 10, 08:04:49am (0543ba4b.skybroadband.com/5.67.186.75)
Daily Mail:
Fulham have received an improved offer of £20.5m from Palmeiras for 29-year-old Brazil midfielder Andreas Pereira.
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- Depends or who they have in mind as a replacement. How much did mctomminay go for as he would be the sort of level we should be looking at. (NT) -- Hg, Friday, January 10, 08:43:20am (NoHost/31.94.64.40)
- I rate Pereira more than the general consensus seems to be. That said, I'm also pragmatic. 20mil for a 29 year old is good money. (NT) -- HE, Friday, January 10, 09:14:31am (lewi-28-b2-v4wan-166893-cust665.vm4.cable.virginm.net/86.16.2.154)
- But is 29 that old these days, there is a thoey we won't get a huge price for Jedi because he is 27.... what is that about? TC says Willian is the best player he has ever played with - and he was in his mid 30s. Pereira's a good player, Marco thinks he is a good player which is why he usually plays him. It is all about understanding what players are being asked to do, both with and without the ball. It has to be 25, at least, but I would rather he stay... (NT) -- Rupert, Friday, January 10, 11:58:24am (NoHost/90.193.226.124)
- Played so well yesterday, maybe inspired by being given the armband. (NT) -- Al, Friday, January 10, 12:47:44pm (NoHost/193.17.86.250)
- 1) Resale value, players are P&L assets/costs, younger = worth more. 2) i27 y/old maybe another 6-7 years at the top, 23 year old 10+ years, 30+% more. Robbo is also very much a physical based player, that will diminish like Walker and he has a lot of yards in his legs and he ain’t about to redevelop his game as a ball player anytime soon, once his physical assets start going he’ll fall off a cliff fairly quickly I’d imagine. Look at ages of highest transfers last 5 years. (NT) -- Henry1879, Friday, January 10, 01:23:34pm (croy-26-b2-v4wan-167127-cust1611.vm24.cable.virginm.net/82.38.22.76)
- Brazil transfer record is currently 17m GBP for 23 year old Thiago Almada from this August. Prior to that it was 13m GBP for 23 year old Luis Henrique. Plamerias just broke their record signing 24 year old Facundo Torres for 11m GBP. A 20m+ bid for a 29 year old Andreas from thus country and club is not believable. (NT) -- eganonoa, Friday, January 10, 01:08:07pm (pool-108-18-149-21.washdc.fios.verizon.net/108.18.149.21)
- Muniz -- KOTB, Friday, January 10, 01:21:42am (189.114.207.253.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br/189.114.207.253)
Muniz, a goal every 182 minutes this season across all competitions. His stats aren't at all bad across the last two seasons but there's something fundamentally missing, what is it?
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- He just needs time. He's not fast and his passing isn't great, but he's got a pretty remarkable strikers instinct in the box, has the physicality and aerial threat and puts in a shift defensively. But he's still very raw. Just 23 with 132 matches under his belt across all teams he's played for. As a point of reference, Mitro had something like 224 matches at the same age. With more games he'll gain some nous and I reckon he'll be a force. (NT) -- eganonoa, Friday, January 10, 01:37:13am (pool-108-18-149-21.washdc.fios.verizon.net/108.18.149.21)
- Agreed, Raul flopped at Atletico at same age, mitrovic not pulling up trees at Newcastle, even solanke was nowhere near where he is now. CFs often take time to mature and learn their craft, people are so impatient. He had a hot spell when given a run last season, had a few ups and downs since but I think done well with limited chances this season. The finish last night was top draw, he’s not a world beater (yet), nor is he league 1 like some insist, he’s a good young CF learning his craft. (NT) -- Henry1879, Friday, January 10, 07:55:36am (croy-26-b2-v4wan-167127-cust1611.vm24.cable.virginm.net/82.38.22.76)
- He lacks the strikers instinct. I watch him and think even I’d have made a run to tap that in. You can train certain things into a player but some things need to be within. He’s also far too nice on the pitch, bumps in to players and apologies for it. (NT) -- Good finish tonight tbf, Friday, January 10, 01:59:05am (575008b0.skybroadband.com/87.80.8.176)
- And the finish away at Chelscum was better. There was a photo on social media doing the rounds of where the Chelsea keeper was standing when Muniz received the ball. Squeezing it into the far corner in that freeze-frame looks impossible. Incredible finish and a very good understudy to an in-form Jiminez IMO (NT) -- Fkev, Friday, January 10, 09:03:25am (NoHost/148.106.154.38)
- I’m not having that last bit. Muniz is a beast in terms of physicality, it’s what really sets him apart from Raul. If Raul goes up against a big centre back, he ends up on his, when Muniz does it l, it’s the centre back who gets out muscled and ends up on his back (NT) -- Hg, Friday, January 10, 09:40:58am (NoHost/31.94.72.121)
- Right from the start (at Blackburn, later at Stoke) and then later -- think Villa (H) -- and for sure last night, a fair few of his goals have been of really high quality in (important to note) different styles -- bullet header, screamer, nip in where there didn't seem time/space, swivel on the turn..... So he's capable of top stuff in varied ways. Clearly, he's not the finished article, but has had a very promising 12 months whether judged by stats or evidence of eyes. (NT) -- b+w g., Friday, January 10, 10:18:17am (host86-164-207-161.range86-164.btcentralplus.com/86.164.207.161)
- Two differing opinions there re: strikers instinct! I would say he is a good finisher but is no fox in the box. No movement but great if it falls his way. (NT) -- ASPT, Friday, January 10, 02:02:59am (114-129-187-208.ip4.superloop.au/114.129.187.208)
- He is a phenomenal header of a ball... (NT) -- TT, Friday, January 10, 02:15:22am (75-148-139-38-Houston.hfc.comcastbusiness.net/75.148.139.38)
- So I am the only one to have noticed a massive difference between his way of playing when he had the 9 in 9 games and his las of enthusiasm and seeming inability to find the net this season , except through deflections . ( Chelsea excepted ) He clearly is not trying (NT) -- alanos, Friday, January 10, 03:41:13am (NoHost/31.94.34.96)
- Super strikers goal yesterday IMHO and put in a shift (NT) -- Al, Friday, January 10, 08:34:13am (NoHost/193.17.86.250)
- some of the points on here are valid,. some not in my view. I don;t think he is a good header of the ball, certainly not in the box. Why not? well it leads onto the second point. He does not make the right runs. His awareness is not great in the last 20% of the pitch. Often the ball is played into the box and he is nowhere to be seen (NT) -- View from the Riverside, Friday, January 10, 09:59:02am (static-84-9-58-207.vodafonexdsl.co.uk/84.9.58.207)
- He's definitely a confidence player; once he gets on a run he can become unstoppable. However, it's his hold-up-play I really rate. Backs into defender and brings in other players (a bit like Mitro) whereas Raul is more about clever little flicks. Two very different styles which is a nice option. Considering the price and/or age of each player I think their goal returns are pretty good. -- Neil G, Friday, January 10, 10:36:39am (NoHost/62.64.164.110)
- Instinct is missing, he runs to the ball after its nearly there rather than anticipating something (NT) -- Waterboy, Friday, January 10, 12:11:22pm (lanc-08-b2-v4wan-168332-cust3678.vm14.cable.virginm.net/80.5.238.95)
- Re: Muniz: Biggest weakness hold up play extremely poor need to work on this side of the game. Passing ability also not great. Still youn and has time needs to learn from Jiminez! (NT) -- Honest, Friday, January 10, 02:45:27pm (host86-130-159-141.range86-130.btcentralplus.com/86.130.159.141)
- Sess -- Al, Thursday, January 09, 11:22:48pm (NoHost/193.17.86.250)
Looked like the Sess of old but stronger. Not as quick as Jedi but then who is. Excellent piece of work to get him.
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- The desire was absolutely there. He wanted it so badly. It was lovely to see. (NT) -- eganonoa, Thursday, January 09, 11:25:38pm (pool-108-18-149-21.washdc.fios.verizon.net/108.18.149.21)
- Have to say I was a bit underwhelmed by the return of Sess but thought he had a good run out tonight- although due to the strength of the opposition, he effectively played as a left winger. But a good performance nonetheless. (NT) -- f bloke, Thursday, January 09, 11:29:56pm (host86-134-8-67.range86-134.btcentralplus.com/86.134.8.67)
- The Boy done good! (NT) -- GA, Friday, January 10, 12:17:13am (ool-18b90125.dyn.optonline.net/24.185.1.37)
- Sess could provide the Willan role? (NT) -- Eerwah, Friday, January 10, 12:46:56am (customer.sydyaus1.pop.starlinkisp.net/65.181.12.131)
- Couldn't believe it when I looked up the stats. Last time he started for The Whites, 2019 (NT) -- Al, Friday, January 10, 01:19:00pm (NoHost/193.17.86.250)
- My MOM was Pereira. He was everywhere... -- Texas Tom, Thursday, January 09, 09:49:27pm (74-95-251-150-Houston.hfc.comcastbusiness.net/74.95.251.150)
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- Cuenca looks very good . But how disappointing is Smith Rowe .. (NT) -- jonathan, Thursday, January 09, 09:59:12pm (NoHost/104.28.86.104)
- Yea he made some good tackles too. Shame his shot hit the bar. That said no one looked out of place tonight. Adama was a real threat down the right although some of his crossing was a little wayward. Thought Godo and king did extremely well when they came on. And Godos assist for the castagne goal was really well worked. (NT) -- Hg, Thursday, January 09, 10:00:19pm (NoHost/31.94.72.121)
- Well good to hear makes a change and Gent Jim praised him. Maybe the armband helped? (NT) -- CB, Thursday, January 09, 10:02:13pm (213-18-164-61.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.164.61)
- Re: My MOM was Pereira. He was everywhere... (NT) -- Lukic also excellent took defeat out the equation, Friday, January 10, 12:56:23am (host-217-8-22-33.as13285.net/217.8.22.33)
- Strength in depth -- ASPT, Thursday, January 09, 07:42:04pm (114-129-187-208.ip4.superloop.au/114.129.187.208)
I saw that line up and thought, that’s a statement of intent, we’re taking this seriously.
Then I realised that only 4 of those players started on Sunday. A good indication of how strong our squad is right now.
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- I'm enjoying watching Sess play again...... (NT) -- GA, Thursday, January 09, 08:07:13pm (ool-18b90125.dyn.optonline.net/24.185.1.37)
- Maybe should leave that comment till after the game, if we got knocked out by another championship team, then it doesn’t look so good then. That said we’ve been comfortable, and the Watford goal was a worldly, but that’s all they have done (NT) -- Hg, Thursday, January 09, 08:38:50pm (NoHost/31.94.72.121)
- Problem is no GK. Remember scoring first 15 in the penalty shootout was not enough with Benda in goal! He is useless. (NT) -- ., Thursday, January 09, 08:46:03pm (0542a81b.skybroadband.com/5.66.168.27)
- Beaten by a supposed wonder strike.Still you know better. (NT) -- HemelRog, Thursday, January 09, 09:43:08pm (5ec0f8a7.skybroadband.com/94.192.248.167)
- No goalkeeper saves that shot. Certainly not Leno. The question is whether he should have been allowed so much room to get his shot off. (NT) -- The Man With No Name, Thursday, January 09, 09:54:06pm (238.75.189.80.dyn.plus.net/80.189.75.238)
- That strike could have hurt someone , like a exocet , not even evds would have smelt that . Good to see king , sess , goda, and" Harry" Reed back in action (NT) -- " Rampant and very impressive Fulham", Thursday, January 09, 09:54:30pm (2e409fa8.skybroadband.com/46.64.159.168)
- Yes their goal was a thunder bolt. No keeper would have saved it. Other than that Brenda had very little to do, but looked competent. (NT) -- Hg, Thursday, January 09, 09:56:38pm (NoHost/31.94.72.120)
- Lol. He let 16 out of 16 pens against PNE including 7 from players who had never taken a professional penalty!! (NT) -- ., Thursday, January 09, 10:33:38pm (0542a81b.skybroadband.com/5.66.168.27)
- I guess Muniz will get his chance to put himself in the shop window tonight. -- CB, Thursday, January 09, 06:47:56pm (213-18-164-61.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.164.61)
Interesting starting 11 I imagine. King, Sess, ESR etc I hope Leno is between the sticks.
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- Really strong team tonight (NT) -- K, Thursday, January 09, 06:50:00pm (NoHost/91.190.160.53)
- Bendable starts. Leno on the bench. (NT) -- FFC in Brighton., Thursday, January 09, 06:54:29pm (NoHost/84.71.246.31)
- cant believe we’d risk injury to Periera here if we are thinking of shopping him. (NT) -- ASPT, Thursday, January 09, 07:14:32pm (114-129-187-208.ip4.superloop.au/114.129.187.208)
- Re: making Andreas captain tonight feels like a point being made by Marco (NT) -- Harry Bayles, Thursday, January 09, 07:20:09pm (NoHost/31.22.15.65)
- Another one bites the dust. -- Observer, Thursday, January 09, 06:43:15pm (NoHost/90.192.125.76)
Dyche now sacked.
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- Comparing Raul's current season to Mitro's best PL season (2022/23). -- eganonoa, Thursday, January 09, 05:58:48pm (pool-108-18-149-21.washdc.fios.verizon.net/108.18.149.21)
Was looking at some basic stats comparing Raul's season so far to Mitro's in the season we came up, when he became a truly proven top-class striker. I hadn't realized quite how remarkably similar their stats are. You can see the comparison in full at fbref.com/tiny/IYSge. Some key stats (sorry not pretty to read but hopefully the point comes across).
Mitro (per 90): 0.63 goals, 0.04 assists, 0.67 goal involvements, 0.67 expected goals, 0.1 expected assists, 0.77 expected goal involvements, 0.39 non-penalty expected goals, 0.49 non-penalty expected goal involvements. 48.8% of aerial duels won, 68% of passes completed, 2.47 shot-creating actions per 90, 2.91 miscontrols per 90, Dispossessed 2.6 times per 90.
Raul (per 90): 0.59 goals, 0.15 assists, 0.74 goal involvements, 0.55 expected goals, 0.16 expected assists, 0.71 expected goal involvements, 0.37 non-penalty expected goals, 0.53 non-penalty expected goal involvements. 41.7% of aerial duels won, 60.3% of passes completed, 1.98 shot-creating actions per 90, 2.65 miscontrols per 90, Dispossessed 1.62 times per 90.
Basically, these two seasons are incredibly similar. Mitro was statistically slightly more of a goal scoring and aerial threat, while Raul has been slightly more of a creative outlet offering quite significantly more control of the ball (as I think we would all expect). But ultimately the differences between the two on the core role of the striker is extremely narrow. I used to think we replaced Mitro in the aggregate between Raul and Muniz, but now it's looking more and more like Raul has been an effective straight replacement for Mitro and the aggregate Mitro + Vini has been resoundingly improved upon with Raul + Muniz.
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- Mitro offered more than just goals though. His defence clearances from corners at set pieces was nearly enough to select him alone. He was a phenomenal asset to have in your own box. Plus mitro would have got even better due to his age (NT) -- Hg, Thursday, January 09, 06:18:32pm (NoHost/31.94.64.19)
- But Mitro forced a sale - so he went. We had Raul in through the door already but though not the same player has had a similar sort of overall impact on the team. - not always possible to get an identical clone of a departed player - you have to deal with what you can get and what you can afford - and based on results date we have done that pretty successfully (NT) -- f bloke, Thursday, January 09, 06:41:03pm (host86-134-8-67.range86-134.btcentralplus.com/86.134.8.67)
- I don't think we can know if Mitro would have gotten better, stayed the same or have peaked. As to defensive contribution, Raul is known for his work on the press, so it's win some lose some there (i.e. set pieces vs open play defense). Stats are mixed: Tackles Won/90: Mitro 0.31, Raul 0.81; Blocks/90: Mitro 0.99, Raul 0.74; Interceptions: Mitro 0.13, Raul 0.44; Clearances: Mitro 0.9, Raul 0.59. Overall, because he's better at retaining possession, I think Raul wins on defensive contribution. (NT) -- eganonoa, Thursday, January 09, 08:13:21pm (pool-108-18-149-21.washdc.fios.verizon.net/108.18.149.21)
- Be interesting to see stats from open play alone. Mitro was an incredible threat, but Raul scores every pen, where Mitro used to miss most, which probably influences the stats somewhat? (NT) -- Obscene, Thursday, January 09, 06:26:09pm (bedf-04-b2-v4wan-169756-cust810.vm32.cable.virginm.net/81.101.19.43)
- Rauls stats will improve whereas Muniz given equal time wont. No comparison be happy to see him move on when a replacement is in sight. (NT) -- CB, Thursday, January 09, 06:36:28pm (213-18-164-61.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.164.61)
- The big difference is that Mitro can play 90 every game Raul cannot. Availability is a hugely important attribute - one of the reasons Solanke cost so much this summer (NT) -- LRCN, Thursday, January 09, 07:05:41pm (82-132-215-66.dab.02.net/82.132.215.66)
- Mitro always a red card risk. Raúl not. Mitro terrible at penalties. Raúl dependable. (NT) -- MH, Thursday, January 09, 09:38:54pm (180-150-112-232.NBN.mel.aussiebb.net/180.150.112.232)
- This is excellent analysis, backs up what I’ve thought this season, despite all the fawning, oh if only we had mitro (despite him almost going on strike to engineer a move for money). Depending on how you play dictates if Raul or nitro is a better CF right now, both have strengths and weaknesses, but to conclude that with nitro we’d be far better than we are is just not correct. (NT) -- Henry1879, Friday, January 10, 07:47:55am (croy-26-b2-v4wan-167127-cust1611.vm24.cable.virginm.net/82.38.22.76)
- Nice one. The confidence I have in Raul stepping up to take a pen is immeasurable compared to Mitro. I hate the stuttering run ups but it seems to work for him. I can't imagine how many points Mitro's dreadful pens cost us... (NT) -- Fkev, Friday, January 10, 10:54:56am (NoHost/148.106.154.38)
- Igor Jesus… yes please! -- Just visiting, Thursday, January 09, 11:46:16am (host86-167-1-52.range86-167.btcentralplus.com/86.167.1.52)
Apologies if this has been covered already on here but I don’t come here as often as I used to. But is Igor Jesus a real possibility or are we being used as bait again? Or is he rubbish and I’m just eating up all the hype? He certainly looks the part and if it’s a case of basically Muniz and a few million quid of someone else’s money to get him then I say go for it! Muniz is a lovely lad and I really hope he does well but he’s not consistent enough to be our main man and we need one.
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- not being funny but where have you seen him look the part. he has only played in brazil and dubai, and stats wise, muniz has superior stats in brazil having played less games, and muniz stats in england are better than igors stats in dubai. i dont see anything that would suggest he would be a hit in england, or am i talking about the wrong igor (NT) -- hg, Thursday, January 09, 12:05:04pm (NoHost/31.94.64.40)
- I know it’s only YouTube but nothing screams “wow” in any of the videos I’ve seen. Slips over a lot I noticed which says it all that that stood out more than anything (NT) -- Trumpton, Thursday, January 09, 12:32:50pm (575008b0.skybroadband.com/87.80.8.176)
- If there's one thing with rumours we can be fairly confident of its that we're unlikely to make big money signings of players from overseas w/o PL experience. Since 2018 we have only paid 8 figures on 2 such players: Bassey & Palhinha, though Bassey was London-raised and played in Scotland so really its just Palhinha, who looks more-and-more of an outlier every window. If the Andre saga taught us anything its that in reality we're seeking a PL-proven alternative to a foreign player rumour (NT) -- eganonoa, Thursday, January 09, 01:08:31pm (pool-108-18-149-21.washdc.fios.verizon.net/108.18.149.21)
- Re: Igor Jesus… yes please! There definately 'is' something funny when it comes to Fulham in the transfer market. Brighton can buy low and sell high. McAllister and Cicedo for example. Yet when Fulham want to buy this CF who is no better than Vinny is rated £30m? Palhinha was only £50m when Brighton got how much for their CMids? Now the case of Periea. £20m? when Villa can get Ipswicth to pay £21m for some kid winger? (NT) -- they wanted £25m for Andre too, Thursday, January 09, 01:47:52pm (exit-01.tor.r0cket.net/45.84.107.198)
- Muniz off according to something -- alanos, Thursday, January 09, 11:24:40am (NoHost/31.94.64.125)
I read . He will undoubtably be a huge success where he goes and Teflon will be able to afford a new coat of non-stick . To pay £90m for three players who were not really even first choice and yet fail to extend Muniz contact with massive pay rise , was totally culpable .
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- well we are a selling club so nothing surprises me anymore, i have zero faith that his replacement would be as equally good though (NT) -- hg, Thursday, January 09, 11:43:04am (NoHost/31.94.64.40)
- Not sure why you think he would be a nailed on success. He has his moments but has not shown he can regularly be a first choice no.9 in either the Premier league or the Championship (for us or Boro). (NT) -- Kenny, Thursday, January 09, 12:18:21pm (NoHost/91.196.222.88)
- Muniz NOT leaving (NT) -- Cottage insider, Thursday, January 09, 01:20:05pm (82-132-235-56.dab.02.net/82.132.235.56)
- Amazing to moan about 3 players who arnt even first choice when 2 of them when fit have started more games then the 1 you moan aboutpotentially going on the basis he would about to be 3rd choice (NT) -- Me, Thursday, January 09, 03:02:13pm (NoHost/2.122.119.215)
- We can do far better than Muniz, interested to see how many takers in England maybe Scotland :) (NT) -- CB, Thursday, January 09, 04:17:20pm (213-18-164-61.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.164.61)
- wow what a credible reliable source you have that something is so spot on with his information (NT) -- Button, Thursday, January 09, 05:25:33pm (nmal-23-b2-v4wan-169190-cust1261.vm24.cable.virginm.net/80.5.116.238)
- West Ham -- Waterboy, Thursday, January 09, 09:11:38am (NoHost/84.65.35.84)
Pretty unlucky again with the sackings, had to face Southampton and now Ham with the new manager bounce!
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- Is the new manager bounce really a thing. I’d love to see some stats on it. Anyway what westham does, is irrelevant. If we set up for the draw again with either a back 5 or two dms, then we won’t win anyway. Marco needs to go back to what worked (NT) -- Hg, Thursday, January 09, 09:56:57am (NoHost/31.94.64.18)
- Suspect Potter will be too mild mannered for that ghastly club, does not look a good fit... (NT) -- Rupert, Thursday, January 09, 11:47:40am (NoHost/90.193.226.124)
- I think Silva has a pretty good record against Potter managed teams. (NT) -- Juana Aorta, Thursday, January 09, 12:11:55pm (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
- The new manager bounce is a thing. "Sue Bridgewater, professor at Warwick Business School, analysed sackings in the Premier League from 1992 to 2008 and found that “there is a boost for a short honeymoon period.”" (S.Kuper, Soccernomics). But it's argued this is due to regression to the mean (i.e. a manager is only sacked when things are bad, and they, even without a managerial change, results are likely to get better) (NT) -- Magic Matt, Thursday, January 09, 12:19:25pm (NoHost/147.161.143.100)
- What TV channel are we on tonight? -- GORDON, Thursday, January 09, 08:56:34am (NoHost/109.144.25.22)
What channel are we on tonight??
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- ESPN+ (America), Sport 2 (Israel) and TRT Spor (Turkey). (NT) -- MF, Thursday, January 09, 09:35:18am (NoHost/212.103.232.179)
- So not uk? Why change dates then? -- Gordon, Thursday, January 09, 10:34:25am (NoHost/109.144.25.22)
- What're the best sites for streaming on that people use these days....? (NT) -- Dan, Thursday, January 09, 11:03:16am (host86-132-188-84.range86-132.btcentralplus.com/86.132.188.84)
- do we know what tv company got our game moved? im gussing espn from that list (NT) -- hg, Thursday, January 09, 12:15:45pm (NoHost/31.94.64.40)
- John Collins -- Eerwah, Thursday, January 09, 05:33:24am (customer.sydyaus1.pop.starlinkisp.net/206.83.118.30)
Tigana squad building was not complete until John Collins arrived. Once he did, whole team performance dramatically improved without obvious JC contribution. Besides basic simple passing, leadership, team mate advice and bench communication were the club captain's strengths for Fulham and over 50 appearances for a then impressive Scotland. Even JT stopped chewing toothpicks. MS shows match time frustration expressed with nervous gesticulation when his directions are not being followed.
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- This doesnt make any sense. Collins was at the club from the first game of the season against Crewe after Tigana's appointment. I'm not sure how the 'whole team performance dramatically improved' on something that didn't exist before? (NT) -- Same Old Story, Thursday, January 09, 09:25:46am (NoHost/84.69.53.52)
- My recollection is that JC improved things significantly once he came. If wrong, apologies. (NT) -- Eerwah, Thursday, January 09, 09:42:52am (NoHost/1.146.10.24)
- I think just as important as his on the field contributions was the valuable link he played between Tigana and the squad. On the pitch didn't he compete with Fabrice? - in the first half of that season I was as excited, if not more so, by Fabrice than Saha - shame that he fell away so quickly (NT) -- f bloke, Thursday, January 09, 11:45:21am (host86-134-9-66.range86-134.btcentralplus.com/86.134.9.66)
- He was injured alot, even in his first season, great player, mind, nice guy, too... (NT) -- Rupert, Thursday, January 09, 11:49:37am (NoHost/90.193.226.124)
- I thought at the time that he was definitely going to be a manager, and a good one. He seemed to have all the attributes. (NT) -- Hammersmithender, Thursday, January 09, 01:41:44pm (NoHost/31.96.95.191)
- The Great Game -- The Man With No Name, Wednesday, January 08, 05:14:43pm (238.75.189.80.dyn.plus.net/80.189.75.238)
A 1953 film about professional football and illegal approaches for players. A fictional Northern club but featuring film mostly from Griffin Park and with some contemporary players such as Tommy Lawton. Certainly not a great drama but if you're interested in the way football used to be you'll enjoy it.
Being shown on Talking Pictures next week
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- James Rodriguez??? -- CC sell outs spotted, Wednesday, January 08, 02:32:10pm (NoHost/185.40.4.44)
ITs a yes from us *IF*
yes IF he isn't the replacement for Perira
IF AP *IS* sold then we need to replace with someone appropriate. Be it a real quailty improvement like Luiz. Or someone who *COULD* step up like McAtee or Doak
NOW if that's done.
#then adding crowd pleasing *is he still ?* GAME CHANGING James Rodriguez until the summer. with a option for 1 more year?
why not? DID SILVA have him in Everton, or was it after his time? if so surely Iwobi knows him...
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- Excellent player in his Monaco and Madris days, but I think those days are a long time ago. (NT) -- GTS, Wednesday, January 08, 02:44:42pm (static-customer-assignment.goskope.com/24.206.97.75)
- Re: James Rodriguez??? (NT) -- Different player to Pereira no swap, Wednesday, January 08, 02:45:16pm (host-217-8-22-33.as13285.net/217.8.22.33)
- 33 year old journeyman who has had his best days, no thanks. (NT) -- Jack, Wednesday, January 08, 04:55:36pm (host86-185-36-8.range86-185.btcentralplus.com/86.185.36.8)
- Good underlying question here. Do we only buy if it lowers the average age of the squad , or is position this year the overriding drive and address the age issue in the summer? (NT) -- Old Dave., Wednesday, January 08, 08:07:32pm (48.92.93.209.dyn.plus.net/209.93.92.48)
- Sale of the Century. -- old codger, Wednesday, January 08, 09:17:11am (0543ba4b.skybroadband.com/5.67.186.75)
According to his dad Musk wants to buy Liverpool. Is that the football club or the city? Probably not a huge difference in the valuation.
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- A nutter and The Mousers.What’s not to like? (NT) -- HemelRog, Wednesday, January 08, 09:30:18am (5ec0f8a7.skybroadband.com/94.192.248.167)
- Will be interesting to see where the scouse not English brigades , loyalties lie if a man of his political leanings takes over (NT) -- Hg, Wednesday, January 08, 09:41:46am (NoHost/31.94.64.40)
- I would have thought a German club would more suit his aspirations (NT) -- CB, Wednesday, January 08, 09:51:20am (213-18-164-61.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.164.61)
- He's a great man who'd become not so great if he ever bought into that shower - hope he settles his differences with Nige. (NT) -- Rupert, Wednesday, January 08, 09:58:15am (NoHost/90.193.226.124)
- If he a "Great Man" as you claim, then so am I. His neuro divergence might aid his business endeavours, but I doubt it helps him develop the qualities and awareness needed to be a great politician. (NT) -- Juana Aorta, Wednesday, January 08, 10:35:24am (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
- HaHa beyond belief.He is a total Cnut.The man who would be king so pretty appropriate. (NT) -- HemelRog, Wednesday, January 08, 11:23:03am (5ec0f8a7.skybroadband.com/94.192.248.167)
- I don't understand your hostility towards him. -- Glide, Wednesday, January 08, 02:41:35pm (customer.mdrdesp1.pop.starlinkisp.net/176.116.124.166)
- Well I can’t help you then. (NT) -- HemelRog, Wednesday, January 08, 03:33:42pm (5ec0f8a7.skybroadband.com/94.192.248.167)
- This is sarcasm, right? (NT) -- GA, Wednesday, January 08, 07:43:56pm (ool-18b90125.dyn.optonline.net/24.185.1.37)
- He is a leftie . That’s all the reason he needs to hate him . Sad really (NT) -- alanos, Thursday, January 09, 12:01:27am (NoHost/31.94.34.225)
- Whenever I ask someone that is vehemently anti Trump, their reasons for being so, they rarely give a fair explanation. -- Glide, Thursday, January 09, 09:01:34am (customer.mdrdesp1.pop.starlinkisp.net/176.116.124.166)
- Whenever I ask some one that is pro Trump, their reasons for being so, they never give a fair explanation. (NT) -- Wolfie Smith, Thursday, January 09, 09:35:59am (94-30-83-200.xdsl.murphx.net/94.30.83.200)
- Bigot,bully,criminal and danger to democracy and the world world.OK for starters? (NT) -- HemelRog, Thursday, January 09, 09:55:19am (5ec0f8a7.skybroadband.com/94.192.248.167)
- A Musk owned club would presumably be managed, coached and captained by Musk. Any defeats would of course be fake results and recognised by the EPL (Chaired by Musk) as victories. (NT) -- The Man With No Name, Wednesday, January 08, 09:58:38am (238.75.189.80.dyn.plus.net/80.189.75.238)
- Couldn't see the mainly left leaning Liverpool fanbase being amused with Musk buying the club (NT) -- JoeT, Wednesday, January 08, 12:09:55pm (NoHost/86.53.126.68)
- Does the average fan care where the money comes from? Newcastle fans didn't, nor Chelsea's, for example. (NT) -- Hammersmithender, Wednesday, January 08, 12:30:17pm (NoHost/185.111.131.198)
- Nor Fulham’s.Big Al was a wrong in and you don’t become a multi billionaire selling car parts(?)without being more than a little dubious. (NT) -- HemelRog, Wednesday, January 08, 12:40:44pm (5ec0f8a7.skybroadband.com/94.192.248.167)
- To be fair to Fulham fans, not many of us were aware of Fayeds behaviour, but I have been waiting for some sort of revelation about our current owner. I agree, no one gets that rich in such a short amount of time selling car parts, and how does a foreign student get a work permit so easily? (NT) -- Hammersmithender, Wednesday, January 08, 01:11:06pm (193-117-182-208.virtual1.co.uk/193.117.182.208)
- Nessa knew the truth… (NT) -- Bad Boy, Wednesday, January 08, 01:37:55pm (NoHost/2.222.160.125)
- There's no real mystery about the Khan's. Student visa to work visa to permanent residency to citizenship isn't exactly groundbreaking in the US. And a regulatory change made a "backwater" ornamental car part into an absolute must have. His wasn't the only bumper company that blew up around that. Suspect his is the most sanitary backstory of any billionaire club owner, though one that's likely been quite hostile to unions and labour rights. (NT) -- eganonoa, Wednesday, January 08, 02:15:31pm (pool-108-18-149-21.washdc.fios.verizon.net/108.18.149.21)
- Thought he was as transparent as Saville.Wasn’t he some sort of arms dealer as well?.Had a bit of inside info as well as my cousin worked with Dodie in the film biz. (NT) -- HemelRog, Wednesday, January 08, 02:29:12pm (5ec0f8a7.skybroadband.com/94.192.248.167)
- Trouble with lefties is they can never appreciate the qualities of self made millionaires. They always suspect devious malpractice. Branson. Made his money with a record company having to fight the establishment. Not a wrong ‘un. Sugar. Made his money wheeling and dealing scrap metal practically. Hard work. Application and desire. Tremendous qualities. Without these types of people we would be in a Socialist stinking quagmire. (NT) -- John The Baptist, Wednesday, January 08, 05:23:10pm (host86-188-64-123.range86-188.btcentralplus.com/86.188.64.123)
- Re: I agree to some extent but Liverpool fans are more 'militant' than most (NT) -- JoeT, Wednesday, January 08, 12:42:41pm (cpc96906-walt25-2-0-cust362.13-2.cable.virginm.net/82.13.233.107)
- Sadly no, but the average Liverpool fan doesn't live in the City of Liverpool, but those who do might give him a hard time. (NT) -- Juana Aorta, Wednesday, January 08, 01:47:33pm (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
- Probably quite a good fit, complete loon who is totally self obsessed and thinks everybody wants to hear from him...sounds like a perfect scouser. (NT) -- GTS, Wednesday, January 08, 02:46:31pm (static-customer-assignment.goskope.com/24.206.97.75)
- Sorry for pissing on your gag but I can't think of a scouser I have met who fits that description, but pisssed up/coked up fottball fans from all parts of the country often do come accross that way. (NT) -- Juana Aorta, Wednesday, January 08, 04:36:17pm (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
- It wasn't really a joke, horrible town and horrible people. (NT) -- GTS, Wednesday, January 08, 06:22:45pm (331315a5.skybroadband.com/51.19.21.165)
- Were you force fed episodes of 'Brookside' or 'Bread' when you were younger? (NT) -- Juana Aorta, Wednesday, January 08, 06:56:48pm (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
- Genuine question... How many times have you been there? (NT) -- Wolfie Smith, Wednesday, January 08, 11:04:28pm (host86-161-28-227.range86-161.btcentralplus.com/86.161.28.227)
- 35 or 40 times, football and work, why ? (NT) -- GTS, Thursday, January 09, 09:28:34am (static-customer-assignment.goskope.com/24.206.97.74)
- Oh ok. Not including in and out day trips to Anfield or Goodison for football, I've been up there 3 times for the national, two of which I stayed in the city centre for 3 or 4 days. Also for last years League cup semi 1st leg I travelled up late on the Monday and came back on Thursday. On all these occasions I found people in shops, cab drivers, everyone really to be very friendly. Strange really how two peoples experiences can differ so wildly... It's almost as if someone's talking nonsense. (NT) -- Wolfie Smith, Thursday, January 09, 10:20:57am (94-30-83-200.xdsl.murphx.net/94.30.83.200)
- In spite of your dislike of the city and it's people, it doesn't appear to stop you returning there. I have only been to Chipping Norton once, but it would be unfair and misleading to say that everyone who lives there is a Range Rover driving, Tory snob. (NT) -- Juana Aorta, Thursday, January 09, 12:10:20pm (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
- Don't understand this Scouse hate tbh. Maybe a relic from the old days but all the fans from Merseyside I've met have been absolutely spund (NT) -- LRCN, Wednesday, January 08, 04:59:30pm (82-132-215-230.dab.02.net/82.132.215.230)
- If you are on the side that thinks fact checkers are a bad thing - you are on the wrong side (NT) -- ASPT, Thursday, January 09, 02:03:34am (110-174-30-142.tpgi.com.au/110.174.30.142)
- NFR -- Andrew in Bath, Wednesday, January 08, 09:14:30am (NoHost/90.220.13.200)
My contempt for Arteta has reached a new low, were that possible. Arsenal’s defeat to Newcastle last night is down to the ball being used in the competition. That the ball has been used in the previous rounds - which Arsenal won - seems to have escaped his memory. His behaviour in getting Gera sent off still rankles ie writhing around in the kind of display that would get you jeered to ridicule in any playground, before subsequently charging around like a six year old on speed. It may well be apocryphal that Ferguson blamed a defeat on the size of FFC’s changing rooms, but Arteta now gets the Oscar for Most Pitiful Excuse for Losing
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- Agree with you - despicable man. Wasn't it Sidwell he got sent off by pretending to be maimed? (NT) -- Fkev, Wednesday, January 08, 09:17:52am (NoHost/148.106.154.38)
- Did he blame the ball? He was asked to comment on the ball being different from PL ball. He did, saying it has different charactistic. I didn't hear him say the ball was to blame for his team missing the chances. (NT) -- Ra's al Ghul, Wednesday, January 08, 09:19:42am (NoHost/212.132.246.99)
- That’s the problem with the Press. Arteta is asked a question about the ball, he responds innocently that it acts differently to the league ball and all of a sudden it’s misinterpreted that he is blaming the ball. Look at Pereira, has an interview and it’s interpreted differently to what he actually meant. Open your mouth and the Press will make a story out of anything. (NT) -- K, Wednesday, January 08, 09:51:51am (NoHost/91.190.160.53)
- Yes - it seems Pereira was stitched up although the quotes may have been provided by his agent. (NT) -- Rupert, Wednesday, January 08, 10:08:52am (NoHost/90.193.226.124)
- I agree, to an extent, most managers would have a bit of nouse and understand it will be clipped and interpreted as an excuse, but then people moan about boring football (and political) interviews and this is why, it’s so easy to get stitched up that it’d safer to just say not a lot in a roundabout way. Saying that, can’t stand arteta and his history of never acknowledging Arsenal ever deserve to lose means he has bit of a rep. (NT) -- Henry1879, Wednesday, January 08, 11:38:01am (croy-26-b2-v4wan-167127-cust1611.vm24.cable.virginm.net/82.38.22.76)
- Pound Shop Pep. (NT) -- bill, Wednesday, January 08, 11:57:28am (host-92-13-166-48.as13285.net/92.13.166.48)
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Now this is more like it -- ipsofacto, Tuesday, January 07, 11:56:56pm (NoHost/84.67.182.241)
Nicolò Schira
@NicoSchira
#Fulham have asked info for #Juventus’ midfielder #DouglasLuiz. #transfers #FFC
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- its written in the stars -- sd, Tuesday, January 07, 08:25:19pm (cm-84.211.226.13.get.no/84.211.226.13)
Spam are waiting for Dyche to get fired at Everton.
Everton will hire Rooney. What do American owners know?
Spurs will appoint Potter, who stalling Spam as he waits for Anges final chapter to play out.
Silva will go to Man Utd this summer when Amorin gets fired.
and yes
Fulham end up with Sir.... Southgate!
Parker brings Burnley up and will be above Fulham after the opening month and Fulham fans thinking>???
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- How ironic -- Honest, Tuesday, January 07, 07:50:09pm (host86-130-159-141.range86-130.btcentralplus.com/86.130.159.141)
To criticise Harry Wison for showing passion and exercising his frustration at the most incompetent referee I have seen in a very long time. It was a red card he missed so many easy decisions and yet was incredibly quick to give Ipswich a very soft penalty. Football is about passion , passion from the fans and we expect and get it from the Manager and players. I personally would not have it any other way
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- Wilson reaction was not passion. It was stupid as he ran the risk of being sent off, putting his team mates in further trouble on a difficult day. He knows VAR exists and would have corrected the mistake the ref made. God forbid Wilson ever makes a mistake (NT) -- Ra's al Ghul, Tuesday, January 07, 08:02:24pm (NoHost/212.132.246.99)
- Of course it was passion. He was caught up in the intensity of the moment. He's been wound up to want to win and to fight for it. I'll take an uncontrolled reaction every now and then to a true injustice. (NT) -- eganonoa, Tuesday, January 07, 08:28:30pm (pool-108-18-149-21.washdc.fios.verizon.net/108.18.149.21)
- When is running after someone screaming you’re a f***ing cheat passion. I’ve never seen a cricket/rugby player do that (certainly not for years), do they not have passion? There’s emotion, but there’s a line and you can’t just say, well it’s sport, do what you want; it’s passion. Take off the FFC specs, that reaction was beyond the line and should have been punished. Grass roots football has huge issues with refs & abuse (physical at times) and that feeds down from the elite level. (NT) -- Henry1879, Tuesday, January 07, 08:41:25pm (croy-26-b2-v4wan-167127-cust1611.vm24.cable.virginm.net/82.38.22.76)
- Re: as huge come off it he the referee was incompetent. The whole ground was frustrated certainly the Fulham fans ! (NT) -- Honest, Tuesday, January 07, 09:04:45pm (host86-130-159-141.range86-130.btcentralplus.com/86.130.159.141)
- There was Mike Gatting and his run in with Umpire Shakoor Rana. It was poor from Wilson, and he needs to wind his neck in in these situations, but if I do have one criticism of Silva, it is his own difficulty of managing his emotion, and I think this sets a poor example to the players. (NT) -- Juana Aorta, Wednesday, January 08, 08:16:38am (92.40.219.220.threembb.co.uk/92.40.219.220)
- Silva's celebration of Muniz's 95th minute winner at Scumford Bridge is absolutely fantastic. I'd take a passionate manager who criticises crap refs and gets fined for it, over a wet blanket without any passion any day of the week (NT) -- Fkev, Wednesday, January 08, 08:48:25am (NoHost/148.106.154.38)
- Hodgson got us to a European final with considerably less passion. He was no wet blanket. When Mitrovic went Colonel Kurtz and was sent off at OT in the cup quarter final, I seem to remember Silva was sitting up in the stand serving a ban for previous dissent. Have I got that right? (NT) -- Juana Aorta, Wednesday, January 08, 10:56:14am (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
- You’re convoluting different things, passion and emotion are clearly a good thing, nobody is disputing that. Running after the scream shouting you’re a f*** cheat is not passion, it’s crossed the line to abuse, which feeds all the way into grassroots, when people see it on tv. Where’s the line then? If it’s passion, if Wilson had pushed the ref is that passion? There has to be a line. (NT) -- Henry1879, Wednesday, January 08, 11:45:12am (croy-26-b2-v4wan-167127-cust1611.vm24.cable.virginm.net/82.38.22.76)
- Completely agree. And its a proven method of team leadership. There are others, but this is his. All this "but what about the grassroots!?" pearl clutching reminds of the silliness we've seen over rock and rap music and video games. As someone who's worked with youth in a variety of contexts, from young offenders in H&F, to those in conflicts around the world, I can say pretty categorically the fault for bad behavior lies elsewhere than the occasional rant of the likes of Silva or Wilson (NT) -- eganonoa, Wednesday, January 08, 02:26:51pm (pool-108-18-149-21.washdc.fios.verizon.net/108.18.149.21)
- I'd be interested to know what your reaction would have been had the ref red carded Wilson and we failed to take any points from the match. I'd doubt you would be patting on the back saying "more of the same please" (NT) -- Ra's al Ghul, Wednesday, January 08, 09:06:48am (NoHost/212.132.246.99)
- Yeah, right. Displaying true Corinthian spirit, he shoulda picked himself up and shrugged his shoulder. Just a wink at the referee and a rueful “whatever” with a gesture to the baying crowd to calm down. (NT) -- Bad Boy, Tuesday, January 07, 08:42:21pm (NoHost/2.222.160.125)
- Why do football players (not just Wilson/FFC) get a free pass, it’s passion, it’s fair game to call someone a f*** cheat? Why don’t players of other sports do it? If you followed any grass roots, I see this a lot, you’d understand how much behaviour filters down from elite level, including abuse, physical &mental to the ref. Is that acceptable collateral damage? You not see how really good refs who may improve the standard don’t follow the career as they don’t want the abuse? (NT) -- Henry1879, Tuesday, January 07, 09:35:08pm (croy-26-b2-v4wan-167127-cust1611.vm24.cable.virginm.net/82.38.22.76)
- If you have played football at any level you would realise this goes on. Amongst the players and the Managers. I'm not advocating abuse but it's clear anyone who does a bad job will get criticised at any level. Referees have the power to book players if this occurs but he was so incompetent he failed to control anything in the game. Most observers , reports , pundits have agreed on this. (NT) -- Honest, Tuesday, January 07, 10:24:06pm (host86-130-159-141.range86-130.btcentralplus.com/86.130.159.141)
- So what card did Wilson deserve yellow or red? (NT) -- CB, Tuesday, January 07, 10:34:24pm (213-18-164-61.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.164.61)
- This isn’t a Wilson attack, but it’s one of the worst cases I’ve seen in a while. It got better when the directive was only captains can approach ref, yellow to others and there’s evidence that fed into better behaviour at grass roots, but for some reason it’s all gone free reign again, not quite as bad as Utd under fergie or Terry/lamps etc under Jose, but it’s not passion or ok to run after a ref screaming you’re a f*** cheat regardless of correct/incorrect decision. (NT) -- Henry1879, Tuesday, January 07, 10:46:05pm (croy-26-b2-v4wan-167127-cust1611.vm24.cable.virginm.net/82.38.22.76)
- The Thing is I was thinking maybe shouting those exact words and was caught up in the injustice. But then I’m not a premiership footballer. And yes remonstrate but I’ve been bloody annoyed when our players get red cards for just being stupid. You say that in any sport and you are disqualified. Leave it to the fans to call the ref any thing under the sun. (NT) -- CB, Tuesday, January 07, 10:28:09pm (213-18-164-61.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.164.61)
- Agree it should be punished yet cannot see how we expect boys wound up as we want them to be for such a high-octane sport to better control their emotions than mature fans & find all the "its just not cricket; it not like this in the rugger" hand-wringing lacking in perspective. Have they never participated in activities that stir their passions & let emotions get the best of them? Can they not see the benefit of a leader inspiring such passion even if it has some negative consequences? (NT) -- eganonoa, Wednesday, January 08, 05:18:26am (NoHost/172.56.32.212)
- Why the smug/dismissive response again. Why’s it ok in football, but almost every other sport it isn’t? I played isthmian league until 22/23 age, Kent cricket U16s, there’s no less passion in cricket than football. The attitude, it’s passion, therefore acceptable, means it’s ingrained, refs wear body cams at grass routes and v.good refs who may improve standards leave the game. 2/3 years ago refs cracked down abuse reduced down the pyramid, unfortunately it’s getting worse again. (NT) -- Henry1879, Wednesday, January 08, 07:39:16am (croy-26-b2-v4wan-167127-cust1611.vm24.cable.virginm.net/82.38.22.76)
- Its a good job you were not the captain on Sunday and Jedi was, as he had sense to see Wilson was close to being red carded and physically dragged/pushed him away. I want passion from our players as much as anyone, but that wasn't passion. (NT) -- Ra's al Ghul, Wednesday, January 08, 09:56:46am (NoHost/212.132.246.99)
- Unless the gove4ning bodies crack down on the dissent from players of the very largest clubs, it's going to continue to be part of the game. Harry did what other players do at all clubs, but it will only curtail when the most high profile of players are punished first. -- Glide, Wednesday, January 08, 03:02:00pm (customer.mdrdesp1.pop.starlinkisp.net/176.116.124.166)
- Some of these refs need calling out - well done H - Bond hadn't given us a decision all afternoon - if you look at his record he never does - he clearly has a thing about Fulham - maybe we beat his team once - don't even know who he supports - he only gave us the second pen because that was so obvious he knew he'd be sent to the screen again - underlining H's words - well done H - well done Marco - we can't be pushed around like we always have been in the past. (NT) -- Rupert, Wednesday, January 08, 10:13:15am (NoHost/90.193.226.124)
- LOPETEGUI STILL AT WEST HAM,POTTER IN WAITING,MARCO SILVA 8M GET OUT -- Wer Spam At It, Tuesday, January 07, 07:49:55pm (host-2-96-184-237.as13285.net/2.96.184.237)
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- For what it's worth...Talksport's Ben Jacobs on McAtee -- p, Tuesday, January 07, 04:02:28pm (NoHost/90.213.242.75)
“I’d keep an eye on Fulham as they are considering a loan, or a loan with an option closer to the tune of £25m. My understanding is that Man City feel if they are to loan him there is a feeling they can keep him in the Premier League.
“Fulham are going to be the ones to watch if City sanction a McAtee exit.”
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- Delaps body charge on Lukic -- Al, Tuesday, January 07, 02:06:53pm (NoHost/193.17.86.250)
Don't understand how he wasn't given at least a yellow, clearly just runs straight into Lukic in the style of Mitro
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- Because the Ref was totally incompetent? (NT) -- GA, Tuesday, January 07, 03:20:39pm (ool-18b90125.dyn.optonline.net/24.185.1.37)
- Probably the biggest let off was for Wilson pointing and shouting in the ref's face. (NT) -- HE, Tuesday, January 07, 03:25:56pm (lewi-28-b2-v4wan-166893-cust665.vm4.cable.virginm.net/86.16.2.154)
- True but as the ex Everton guy said on ref watch, Wilson had suffered at the hands of the incompetent ref all game. (NT) -- Al, Tuesday, January 07, 04:16:19pm (NoHost/193.17.86.250)
- Had he been sent off for that, it would have been up there with Leon Andreason's red card from Howard Webb following West Ham's illegitimate winner in 07/08. Someone has to tell the refs when they get it so ridiculously wrong, and it isn't going to be PGMOL or their assessors (NT) -- The Doctor, Tuesday, January 07, 04:23:00pm (host31-126-217-29.range31-126.btcentralplus.com/31.126.217.29)
- Not Wilson job to comment. How would we feel if Bond had gone to Andreas and told him he was fucking shite for not doing his job? I suggest Wilsons reputation for diving had an influence on the refs initial penalty decision (NT) -- Ra's al Ghul, Tuesday, January 07, 05:43:38pm (NoHost/212.132.246.99)
- I agree, in that, even if you think he missed it and made a mistake (guess what, humans make errors, VAR did its job) then that doesn’t give a right to react like that and people wonder why people don’t want to become ref’s or they make mistakes given how they get berated. Silva doesn’t help with how he reacts and loses his head, feeds into the players, which can then lead to us getting so focused on the ref we aren’t concentrating on how we can win the game. (NT) -- Henry1879, Tuesday, January 07, 05:54:56pm (croy-26-b2-v4wan-167127-cust1611.vm24.cable.virginm.net/82.38.22.76)
- In addition to the above, Wilson probably should have been sent off, almost definitely costing us any chance of winning the game. (NT) -- Ra's al Ghul, Tuesday, January 07, 06:37:51pm (NoHost/212.132.246.99)
- This line of thinking is just silly. We have a passion and togetherness that I've never seen in the 30 years I've supported the club. You can see it in the way that our players both support each other and are comfortable grabbing and pushing each other away when needed, as well as how they fight to the death. These things trickle down from the top and they are a good thing. It's a sport. Passions should run high. Save the cold fish, box ticking managers, for pencil pushing. (NT) -- eganonoa, Tuesday, January 07, 06:47:36pm (pool-108-18-149-21.washdc.fios.verizon.net/108.18.149.21)
- It’s silly to expect our players/coach to show respect to the ref and understand humans make errors, do our players screaming how crap they are to each other when they miss a chance? It all feeds down throughout the game into grassroots and Wilson screaming you’re a **** cheat in the refs face isn’t passion, it’s losing his head. The best keep cool, react to adversity by getting up and finding a way to overcome it, not go mad causing loss of concentration leading to Ipswich 2nd goal. (NT) -- Henry1879, Tuesday, January 07, 07:14:05pm (82-132-221-84.dab.02.net/82.132.221.84)
- Not saying sanitise the game, but there is a line and Wilson crossed it, the problem is the ref didn’t punish it, so players will continue to do it, what happened to just the captain approaching the ref? Passion and emotion is great in situations, but having a cool head and stepping back is also vital, we lost ours v ITFC, if we’d been cooler, scored the pen, I have no doubt we’d have gone on to win if we’d taken a breath and rest rather than cause the chaos after our first pen. (NT) -- Henry1879, Tuesday, January 07, 07:18:20pm (82-132-221-84.dab.02.net/82.132.221.84)
- Above all it's great if Marco has fostered that, but I'm another unconvinced it needs to be accompanied by the quantity and style of hissy fits referred to above, which viewed without b+w specs on, don't do him or the cause any favours. Hopefully a teeny bit of a turn-off to succession planners at bigger clubs. (So much else to commend of course.) (NT) -- b+w g., Tuesday, January 07, 07:32:45pm (68.52.159.143.dyn.plus.net/143.159.52.68)
- Wilson reaction has got nothing to do with team passion and togetherness. Indeed it was the opposite. Had he been sent off, he would of put his colleagues in the shutter. Hardly thinking about togetherness was he? (NT) -- Ra's al Ghul, Tuesday, January 07, 07:51:59pm (NoHost/212.132.246.99)
- Or the kick in Muniz's face just before missing the penalty. (NT) -- Pablo, Tuesday, January 07, 05:00:41pm (host86-167-153-83.range86-167.btcentralplus.com/86.167.153.83)
- All the teams do it nowadays. They block the forward from getting onto the long ball from the kick off. Referees allow it. I don't think the word "obstruction" is in the laws anymore. (NT) -- old codger, Tuesday, January 07, 05:02:42pm (0543ba4b.skybroadband.com/5.67.186.75)
- From my view Lukic moved across the path Delap was running on. Probably deserved to be crunched (NT) -- Ra's al Ghul, Tuesday, January 07, 05:37:05pm (NoHost/212.132.246.99)
- £16M bid now incresed to £20M. Fulham want £10M more? -- new thread due to wordlimit (x-Ray), Tuesday, January 07, 12:51:09pm (NoHost/23.154.177.25)
Re: Pereira. scary whence you'd think how quickly the teams changed 'just' in Silvas time here. He often moans that he is having to RE-build every season. And AP is prime example of a Player whose done good things for FFC, but just as he has a blimp fans and probably silva / Club suits will try to 'cash-in $' on AP and improve. Marco changed HALF the side whence promoted. AND now 2.5 seasons into the PL Return again HALF the PL side has changed. AND no fulham fan will be able to say the PL side in 2022 wouldn't be anything but in a Relegation battle!!!!
Certainly 10th place wouldn't be realistic in 2025 with 2022s squad.
If we have a chance to make a £10m profit (less than maybe market value) and reinvest on a player fit for purpose in 2025-26. Then its folly to pass up on this. Especially with Josh King and 30 points already on the table.
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- Do you not have shame in your emotional locker? You know, that emotion that tries to stop us doing things that might threaten whether we maintain our place in pack. (NT) -- Juana Aorta, Tuesday, January 07, 01:01:15pm (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
- Think he's our key player for keeping us up. I have to admit I can't decide whether the addition of Smith-Rowe is good or bad for him. I prefer both of them as pure 10s free roles. Now Pereira plays has more defensive responsibilty and I think he does ok, but his strength is the high press for me, so he has to kind of hold back. (NT) -- Chris M, Tuesday, January 07, 02:21:19pm (NoHost/84.65.90.130)
- Another tripe Brazilian rumour just like us signing world class Andre at least 4 times. He isn’t really doing much at Wolves . (NT) -- K, Tuesday, January 07, 02:30:21pm (NoHost/91.190.160.53)
- do manu have a sign on clause? (NT) -- ..., Tuesday, January 07, 04:10:13pm (host86-153-178-227.range86-153.btcentralplus.com/86.153.178.227)
- Take the money and run. (NT) -- GA, Tuesday, January 07, 06:09:11pm (ool-18b90125.dyn.optonline.net/24.185.1.37)
- Pereira -- European Tour, Tuesday, January 07, 12:20:51pm (575008b0.skybroadband.com/87.80.8.176)
133 Premier League Matches
8724 Minutes
11 Goals
Goal Every 793 Minutes
18 Assists
Assist Every 484 Minutes
A Goal involvement every 300 Minutes surely isn’t good enough when we want to push on and start dusting off the passports.
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- Amazing stat he has only scored 1 league goal at home vs Leeds 2 seasons ago (NT) -- Waterboy, Tuesday, January 07, 12:38:21pm (NoHost/84.65.35.84)
- Fulham are not interested in negotiating and that they will need a bid of at least 35m Euros to sell (NT) -- Goss, Tuesday, January 07, 12:53:09pm (2e409fa8.skybroadband.com/46.64.159.168)
- He plays centre mid now. So what are the average stats for a decent cm, as that’s the position we need to replace. (NT) -- Hg, Tuesday, January 07, 01:06:40pm (NoHost/31.94.64.40)
- Reckon Andreas is staying - -- p, Tuesday, January 07, 11:30:51am (NoHost/90.213.242.75)
Fabrizio Romano saying Fulham are not interested in negotiating and that they will need a bid of at least 35m Euros to sell him...can't see anyone paying that.
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- Greetings -- Eerwah, Tuesday, January 07, 12:43:14am (customer.sydyaus1.pop.starlinkisp.net/206.83.119.123)
Being in the driving seat encouraging team mates to retain composure when leading or to exhibit tenacity for not conceding late or carry out effective and tactical use of the bench and the many professional aspects required of on field leadership is needed. First minute vs Ipswich shows an off ball Sasa Lukic floored by a brick wall notification of intent. Current Fulham squad requires additional qualities for contemplating reaching a higher level.
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- Tom Cairney on Sky sports now, really good watch. Having a chat about his career and ffc. -- Wolfie Smith, Monday, January 06, 10:38:03pm (host-89-242-133-169.as13285.net/89.242.133.169)
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- Agreed. Comes across as a very bright, thoughtful guy, could see him going into a media career after playing actually. Probably a bit too shrewd to go down the coaching/managment route... (NT) -- dd, Monday, January 06, 11:04:17pm (NoHost/90.213.242.75)
- Great servant to the the club who I hope reward hom with a testimonial (NT) -- JoeT, Tuesday, January 07, 08:17:23am (cpc96906-walt25-2-0-cust362.13-2.cable.virginm.net/82.13.233.107)
- Re: Tom at Yes he came across very well and had some great things to say about Marco. Still an excellent players and a great servant to the club. Unlike many I thought he did well on Sunday. (NT) -- Honest, Tuesday, January 07, 09:35:57am (host5-81-118-152.range5-81.btcentralplus.com/5.81.118.152)
- Is there a recording anywhere, I missed it.... (NT) -- Rupert, Tuesday, January 07, 11:26:04am (NoHost/90.193.226.124)
- A thread the other day about Ipswich wearing their away kit for no reason got me thinking about kits. Was trying to think of the times we have worn our change kit at home in a competitive game (it's happened a few times for friendlies). We did it an evening Premier league match at Loftus road in a 2-3 loss to Newcastle in Oct 2003, and it was way before my time but remember seeing a colour picture of us at home to west brom in the late 60's when we wore all blue! Any other occasions? -- Wolfie Smith, Monday, January 06, 09:58:20pm (host-89-242-133-169.as13285.net/89.242.133.169)
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- Last home game at Lotus Road we played in all blue. (NT) -- Hammersmithender, Monday, January 06, 11:22:29pm (NoHost/31.94.14.113)
- I think it was the FA Cup against WBA in 69. They were the holders, so maybe that's why we changed colours. (NT) -- The Drobe, Tuesday, January 07, 01:00:38am (host86-132-188-146.range86-132.btcentralplus.com/86.132.188.146)
- Wasn't there a rule for a while on those days, in the FA Cup, that both teams would wear their change kit if they clashed, so neither had any advantage? (NT) -- GTS, Tuesday, January 07, 06:02:20am (331315a5.skybroadband.com/51.19.21.165)
- In the third round we won 4-1 at Sunderland wearing a borrowed blue kit (we neglected to take a change strip to Roker), so the club decided to wear a "lucky" blue kit against WBA in the 4th round (we lost 2-1). (NT) -- Spiny Norman, Tuesday, January 07, 12:26:55pm (cpc150002-brnt4-2-0-cust979.4-2.cable.virginm.net/86.6.243.212)
- Ipswich, Soton and Wolves all played in away kits, there was no clash with our home hit. They all were pink or purple and pink, was this a reason for poor performance? (NT) -- Hedgehog, Tuesday, January 07, 12:11:37pm (host81-159-24-43.range81-159.btcentralplus.com/81.159.24.43)
- The light blue shirts against Arsenal were for the 125th anniversary. Reflecting the very early days when we wore light blue & dark blue halves in honour of our founders who went to Oxford and Cambridge. I'm not sure we wore it again after that match. (NT) -- .., Tuesday, January 07, 08:11:03pm (host109-147-84-22.range109-147.btcentralplus.com/109.147.84.22)
- Didn’t realise Paul Parker’s nephew played for Ipswich - Ben Johnson -- ., Monday, January 06, 09:54:12pm (finc-16-b2-v4wan-164432-cust282.vm7.cable.virginm.net/82.16.69.27)
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- McAtee -- Goss., Monday, January 06, 08:28:51pm (2e409fa8.skybroadband.com/46.64.159.168)
adds that a move this month is seen as beneficial to both the player and City, and Fulham are willing to pay up to £40 million to sign the midfielder, which would be a club-record fee, surpassing the figure that saw Emile Smith Rowe arrive in the summer.
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- Ref watch all in agreement that it wasn’t a red because the defender would have covered complete and total nonsense any top six side the player would have been sent off . Wilson was clean through and flying he 💯 would have got his shot off -- Button, Monday, January 06, 06:09:35pm (nmal-23-b2-v4wan-169190-cust1261.vm24.cable.virginm.net/80.5.116.238)
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- Agree that it should have been a red. Shearer said on MOTD that it was more of a goal scoring opportunity than Wilson's at Anfield when Robertson got sent off. Ref had a shocker all afternoon. (NT) -- FFC in Brighton., Monday, January 06, 07:10:33pm (NoHost/84.71.246.31)
- What a suprise.Absolute bullshit. (NT) -- HemelRog, Monday, January 06, 08:18:49pm (5ec0f8a7.skybroadband.com/94.192.248.167)
- It is a quite awful programme, Baldie was an absolutely appalling ref, one of the worst which is quite something, and now he just acts as an apologist for his mates, with the other two clowns mainly parroting his nonsense... the only one with any brain cells at all is actually the presenter, the idea O'Shea is pretty quick is ridiculous... have any of them watched H in full flight? (NT) -- Rupert, Tuesday, January 07, 11:13:01am (NoHost/90.193.226.124)
- He knew Wilson would miss unless it's a header (NT) -- Waterboy, Tuesday, January 07, 12:02:07pm (NoHost/84.65.35.84)
- Can you name the two Ipswich players who had family members previously play for Fulham? -- ., Monday, January 06, 04:54:02pm (finc-16-b2-v4wan-164432-cust282.vm7.cable.virginm.net/82.16.69.27)
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- Walton and Greaves? (Mark and Stephen?) (NT) -- coulio, Monday, January 06, 05:55:33pm (79-77-69-91.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com/79.77.69.91)
- Re: Can you name the two Ipswich players who had family members previously play for Fulham? -- Alan, Monday, January 06, 05:57:50pm (97e09898.skybroadband.com/151.224.152.152)
- Chris Walton was one - his dad Mark was a goalkeeper for Fulham -- ., Monday, January 06, 09:53:03pm (finc-16-b2-v4wan-164432-cust282.vm7.cable.virginm.net/82.16.69.27)
- Their whole team and fan base is related isn't it? (NT) -- ASPT, Tuesday, January 07, 01:32:15am (110-174-30-142.tpgi.com.au/110.174.30.142)
- Thursday -- Al, Monday, January 06, 04:03:57pm (NoHost/193.17.86.250)
Looking at the seat maps it's going to be a bit of an embarrassment on Thursday.
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- Re: the embarrassment is that the FA have put the match on a Thursday night when it isn't even on domestic tv, how much are they actually making from it being on overseas tv? I for one was going when it was on the Saturday but I now can't. I'm sure I'm not alone. (NT) -- Harry Bayles, Monday, January 06, 04:28:02pm (NoHost/147.161.237.92)
- Fulham's true core, loyal support will be exposed -- ., Monday, January 06, 04:58:18pm (finc-16-b2-v4wan-164432-cust282.vm7.cable.virginm.net/82.16.69.27)
- I would put the blame solely on the FA (NT) -- Waterboy, Monday, January 06, 05:20:38pm (NoHost/148.252.144.139)
- I love the FA Cup and would normally have gone but I would miss the last train home, especially as I think, it's now extra time and penalties. (NT) -- Hammersmithender, Monday, January 06, 06:59:03pm (NoHost/31.94.14.113)
- The pricing strategy is all wrong yet again. The perfect opportunity to fill out the ground with £20 tickets. Why do they insist on overcharging for these games with little demand? (NT) -- Frustrating, Tuesday, January 07, 10:27:31am (host86-169-246-73.range86-169.btcentralplus.com/86.169.246.73)
- Thanks -- Andrew in Bath, Monday, January 06, 03:49:37pm (NoHost/90.220.13.200)
Thanks to those kind souls who advised me about parking in West London on Sunday. All hassle free, and 100 yards from Osterley tube station. In appreciation I donated to Fulham Foundation - am not virtue signalling, rather highlighting the generous use of people’s time.
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- Just asking. -- old codger, Monday, January 06, 03:35:46pm (unn-138-199-28-13.datapacket.com/138.199.28.13)
Is there a reason why we are playing a FA cup match on a Thursday night?
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- Graham Potter -- MLC, Monday, January 06, 03:34:07pm (NoHost/104.28.86.109)
Looking like next West Ham manager!
Who’s our next league against??
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- Ipswich -- Mickey, Monday, January 06, 02:01:20pm (82-132-230-140.dab.02.net/82.132.230.140)
were they really as poor as a fair few have made out ? I saw a Team with limited ‘flair ‘ play to their strengths and in so
doing present the same problems to us as they did to CFC, Spurs and even Arsenal whose flair only rewarded them a 1-0 on the night . Truth is not many relish playing against a resolute set up who were also prepared to press and frustrate : a challenge to their opponents to play through them and try to break them down . The reverse game back in Aug I came away from thankful there were no additional
minutes beyond the added time afforded . They have physicality ( Delap),pace ( esp the absent Hutchinson ) and perhaps are now finding that street -wisdom needed when up against it . By far the best of the 3 promoted sides and most definitely with the best Coach of the 3. Despite our lamentations over formations and personnel , what was missing yesterday was the creativity to pick through them. Who is the closest of our players to make that happen , TC, AP, or far more likely ESR. As I suggested yesterday ESR would be far more effective with runners alongside him, as opposed to trying to pass to feet requiring almost 100% accuracy . With our improved league status should come yet another higher level of player sought in the Market.
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- They were poor.Having said that thought they could have beaten us at Portman Road.Delap is a real handful can see him sneaking in the England squad for a bit of variety. (NT) -- HemelRog, Monday, January 06, 02:10:25pm (5ec0f8a7.skybroadband.com/94.192.248.167)
- "what was missing yesterday was the creativity to pick through them". That was precisely the problem, we were trying to PICK through them instead of getting the ball forward QUICKLY and breaking with pace. Cairney and Andersen looked like 75-year-olds playing walking football. Gives the opposition loads of time to get behind the ball. Wrong, wrong, wrong - Silva is fantastic, but seems to have a blind spot where this is concerned. (NT) -- d, Monday, January 06, 02:40:10pm (NoHost/90.213.242.75)
- We have missed that left-side triangle of Robinson, ESR and Iwobi. I didn't like it as much when Nelson was there but it was still good. But in the last month or so its been completely absent. We've gone unbeaten in that time, so something is clearly working. But I think we need it back. (NT) -- eganonoa, Monday, January 06, 02:59:46pm (NoHost/172.58.245.149)
- They'd done their homework and carried out the Managers instructions well, apart from conceding two penalties. They allowed little space for Iwobi and Robinson, the two players we had who could create scoring chances. They have a decent keeper who played well and Delap who is very confident. Mckenna is a shoe in for Man Utd if Amorin fails to deliver on expectations. I was disappointed that Cairney did not get any shots on goal, but to be fair to him he never found the room. (NT) -- Juana Aorta, Monday, January 06, 03:07:12pm (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
- When you play against a low block side - how do you get to move the forward and with pace? Space in the final third is so condensed - the game then becomes more chess like - probing for weaknesses with lots of slow slow and hopefully quick quick (in tight spaces) slow - for me you need your best technical players on the pitch in these circumstances and 3 CB's is a waste of a more technical player (NT) -- f bloke, Monday, January 06, 03:13:48pm (host86-134-9-66.range86-134.btcentralplus.com/86.134.9.66)
- I think ESR was bought ahead of our ability to use him effectively due to the players we currently have up front and in the middle. Like many of our "buys", a good portion of them took time to adapt, and often due to the fact we didn't have the skills on the pitch yet to most effectively bring out their best. (NT) -- RR, Monday, January 06, 06:24:48pm (NoHost/15.181.1.245)
- Very limited side, pundits going on about Rory Delap when the better Number 9 by a country mile was playing in white... their bench is desperately weak which is why they will go down... plucky, but last season's Luton... will run out of steam when push comes to shove, Everton, Palace and Wolves just have more options. Five subs rule is killing promoted sides, which is good for us. (NT) -- Rupert, Tuesday, January 07, 11:20:37am (NoHost/90.193.226.124)
- Re: Ipswich (NT) -- Well coached hard working unit got a chance, Tuesday, January 07, 08:09:42pm (host-217-8-22-33.as13285.net/217.8.22.33)
- Delap, best thing since sliced bread or journeyman -- Al, Monday, January 06, 12:24:02pm (NoHost/193.17.86.250)
Lots of the media fawning over him, not impressed myself. Even the lacklustre Andersen had him in his pocket (almost). Reminded me of Super Geoff Horsfield but a mere shadow of Super Geoff. Anyone else remember sponsoring the tortoise at London Zoo?
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- Observations -- Jungle J, Monday, January 06, 12:21:36pm (NoHost/51.52.254.24)
A few observations that build on what many have said
1- TC, unfortunately not great yesterday. Yes he is great at retaining possession but he repeatedly passed it into defending feet when trying to progress into the box. Even though Andreas kept mis-hitting corners we did look livelier with him on the pitch
2- ESR drifted in and out of the game, seeing replays his header was easier to score than miss, but OTOH a wonderful ball out to Raul leading up to the second penalty
3- set pieces, we need a proper coach, we kept trying the cross to the back post for the header back across and they were all defended easily
4- the REF - you could see why Silva was frustrated in the first half, so many 50/50s going Ipswich's way, not getting the red card (I think it could have gone either way), there was a pretty nasty tackle on TC, Lukic won the ball cleanly several times and it was pulled back, AP's booking was pretty soft. VAR saved him, he had decent sight of our first penalty and refused to give it, and there was no booking for the guy who kicked Muniz in the face just before
5- Leno, he's great, but has he ever saved a penalty for us?
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- Leno saved a Vardy penalty. Think thats it. (NT) -- Al, Monday, January 06, 12:39:05pm (NoHost/193.17.86.250)
- The biggest observation is that Marco got his tactics wrong again. How many times have we relied on subs to bail us out. (NT) -- Hg, Monday, January 06, 12:39:20pm (NoHost/31.94.64.40)
- i agree on the ref... terrible and not up to the job... but he did give them 6-7 yellows and us just one. (NT) -- View from the Riverside, Monday, January 06, 01:29:06pm (static-84-9-58-207.vodafonexdsl.co.uk/84.9.58.207)
- O'Shea was booked for the kick to Muniz's head (NT) -- Ra's al Ghul, Monday, January 06, 02:15:04pm (webdefence-pool-02.cluster-lonb.forcepoint.net/85.115.53.202)
- Thursday -- Al, Monday, January 06, 12:05:13pm (NoHost/193.17.86.250)
Really hope we go strong on Thursday as we must have a decent chance of at least getting to the final. Would love to see King, Sess, Traoré, ESR and Cuenca to start
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- Two Halves don't make a whole -- View from the Riverside, Monday, January 06, 10:00:47am (static-84-9-58-207.vodafonexdsl.co.uk/84.9.58.207)
Literally a game of two halves. First 30 mins we had 70% possession and 400 odd passes, yet we mustered one shot on goal. They had 30% possession and scored! Great to have TC back in the team but it was so pedestrian and slow. He is no more than an impact sub to use when we need to slow the game down and control the ball. The one time we did put together a fast move we opened them up and Wilson got brought down.
Time and again we had the ball in the final 1/3 and gave them time to get their shape back. They are a well drilled team and when you can throw on five subs, which they did, we are not going to tire them out. The longer it went on, the more those sat around me grew more and more anxious as we failed to score. And so it came to pass. 1-0 to Ipswich. Half time.
Second half, helter skelter, second and third changes to formations, which the team took time to adjust to. Game opened up, passing became faster and more desperate - it was a total contrast to the first half. Some observations in no particular order. Jiminez’s best game for us so far, worked his socks off. Robinson had a poor game, so many poor passes and crosses. Pereirra – stop taking corners you can’t clear the first man. I would not be bothered if he left provided we brought cover in. Which brings me onto the question why we cross so much into a crowded box filled with taller defenders. Maybe it is because we don’t have a forward with pace who can get behind defences or dribble, who we can play balls over the top to. That player was meant to be Adama who becomes more ineffective with every game. Again I expect little from him when he comes on. He is a novelty player. I thought ESR looked bright when he came on and moves the ball faster than TC and moves to receive the ball back. But I do doubt he has 90 mins in him.
So from the bottom four clubs – Southampton, Ipswich, Wolves and Leicester.. total 15 points we have taken 6 points. That is not good enough for a team pushing for a top six spot. Against the top four clubs – Liverpool, Arsenal, Forest and Chelsea total 12 points – 8 points… top six form….. A season of two halves of the table!!
And the ref... well awful
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- Agree with most of that - you don't need three centre halves against Ipswich - we got better in the second half as our bench was vastly stronger than their's - we've a long history of problems with Bond - he hates us and needs investigating. (NT) -- Rupert, Monday, January 06, 10:04:53am (NoHost/90.193.226.124)
- I disagree with the formation because we are moving away from what’s worked and nullified our best player in Robbo. 3 CBs doesn’t mean more negative/defensivd all the time, Amorim played it every game for sporting, conte won the league with Chelsea, it’s a different dynamic, but not necessarily defensive, especially as we were more 3-4-3, but don’t think it suits us and smacks of wanting to not drop diop/anderson, I’d drop Anderson and go back to 4. (NT) -- Henry1879, Monday, January 06, 12:02:45pm (croy-26-b2-v4wan-167127-cust1611.vm24.cable.virginm.net/82.38.22.76)
- I agree with most of your post but please anyone tell me what Cairney offers as a starter . No pace , no tackling , just a calming influence accentuated far more when brought off the bench . ESR and the much maligned AP if we are playing just 1 DCM. (NT) -- Mickey, Monday, January 06, 10:10:05am (82-132-230-88.dab.02.net/82.132.230.88)
- I’d have started Perriera, but I get the rationale, cairney can pick a pass and he can score from range, 2 very useful attributes when faced with a team who you know to begin with will sit deep and not let the game get stretched. It may be behind the scenes stuff with Perriera, who knows, but I think it’s the area we need to address, a creative CM, to connect defence and attack, I said a while ago but cairney with more athleticism, although that could be wishful thinking. (NT) -- Henry1879, Monday, January 06, 12:06:57pm (croy-26-b2-v4wan-167127-cust1611.vm24.cable.virginm.net/82.38.22.76)
- we counter attack, which works against the top sides, but we cannot beat a low block. The long ball works alongside the passing out from the keeper. (NT) -- have the players,need the game plan, Monday, January 06, 12:42:20pm (host86-153-178-227.range86-153.btcentralplus.com/86.153.178.227)
- I'm afraid when TC is hurried and pressed on the ball he is very ineffective. He is past it regarding the Premier League and the pace of play. So what has Josh King done to upset Silva? Since the Saints game he has disappeared and not given game time. Sander Berge is a big miss for us and Lukic has to do all the donkey work in the midfield. Once against this is not TC's forte. (NT) -- Fact, Monday, January 06, 01:46:36pm (host-80-46-12-4.as13285.net/80.46.12.4)
- Adama was on for what, about 10-15 minutes? (NT) -- .., Tuesday, January 07, 08:15:49pm (host109-147-84-22.range109-147.btcentralplus.com/109.147.84.22)
- Sell AP buy McAtee or Ferguson -- Gavin S, Monday, January 06, 02:45:40am (NoHost/185.241.208.206)
likely factor 3/10
price seems out of reach for Fulham
Loan yes, but to buy at current prices?
Gronto, Gray or Jun-Ho. Cheaper and therefore more likely
Agents talk?
Reality is Fulham WANT to sell someone.
Reality, has Fulham any money to replace with quality player?
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- The coup ? -- JD, Sunday, January 05, 10:29:06pm (97e2c028.skybroadband.com/151.226.192.40)
Are we (still) punching way above our weight? Forget poor referees and possession, because aside the ESR missed header, the best three chances fell to Ipswich. And only the woodwork (twice) and a world class save from Leno stops us falling to a heavy home defeat, akin to Wolves. The table doesn’t lie. We haven’t invested in the talent up front that will undo sides that regard a point at Fulham as a good result. Since our promotion Forest and Bournemouth nett investment, minus players sales, is £200m+ compared to our £75m. And that has left us without the combined pace and aggression that has netted 20+ goals for Wissa and Mbueno. Southampton, Ipswich, Leciester, Leeds, Burnley, Everton, Birmingham have invested way more in their front line. Can we push on and repeat the coup of 31 January 2018?
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- "I don't know if the fans are demanding or asking for a new striker. I think we have to look for different positions before the striker right now. Or you have £60M, and then you go for a striker!" (NT) -- Silva, Sunday, January 05, 11:27:41pm (2e409fa8.skybroadband.com/46.64.159.168)
- The best 3 chances fell to Ipswich? Well, Raul 1st half header was a cracking save, the 2nd half one just wide, their two shots (one which hit post) were both from outside the area. The other woodwork they hit led to their goal. The table doesn't lie nor does the fact we've competed for the first time in my lifetime with the top six and got results. That's never happened before. Silva needs to work out a way to beat teams that sit in their own area. Simple as that. (NT) -- Jim © (The Devon IP), Monday, January 06, 01:06:33am (host86-191-253-231.range86-191.btcentralplus.com/86.191.253.231)
- Of course we are, we have a 34 year old striker who the is only one to have scored 10+ goals in the premier season regularly (think esr may have done it once at arsenal). We have no natural goalscorers and make do with winning by the odd goal (NT) -- Waterboy, Monday, January 06, 07:47:50am (NoHost/84.65.35.84)
- Not really, despite what waterboy says our goals scored is middle of the table, (forest scored less in 3rd), goals conceded middle, XG middle on both fronts, wages around middle, we are where we statistically should be in many regards. Forest will regress over 2nd half, towards the middle, if we get lucky with injuries and have a good 2nd half we’ll finish 7/8th, if we don’t we could drop down to 12/13th, we are a good, well run, mid table prem team, many clubs would love to say that. (NT) -- Henry1879, Monday, January 06, 08:26:53am (croy-26-b2-v4wan-167127-cust1611.vm24.cable.virginm.net/82.38.22.76)
- 32 -28- 30 goals scored last 3 seasons matchday20 (NT) -- Chilly morning, Monday, January 06, 09:57:45am (2e409fa8.skybroadband.com/46.64.159.168)
- We were way better than them - biggest change in football in recent years is the five subs which is why Ipswich will join Leicester and Southampton - 16 man game and promoted teams can't cope - Ipswich got lucky yesterday with the worst referee in living memory. (NT) -- Rupert, Monday, January 06, 10:01:22am (NoHost/90.193.226.124)
- Did Lukic run over the refs dog? -- Al, Sunday, January 05, 09:43:34pm (NoHost/193.17.86.250)
Every time Lukic won the ball Mr Bond called it a foul, beyond belief IMHO
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- Points -- Waterboy, Sunday, January 05, 08:13:23pm (NoHost/84.65.35.84)
We have a lot more points than usual at this stage but I'm pretty sure I heard we have dropped 19 from winning positions, puts us comfortably top!
We were too slow moving the ball today, Raul made the 2nd penalty with some fight and actually getting into them with the run.
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- Jimenez now has a better goals per game ratio with Fulham than he had with Wolves... -- G, Sunday, January 05, 08:08:18pm (NoHost/90.213.242.75)
Pretty incredible considering his age and the fact it's after a serious injury..
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- Applause at the end -- MartinC, Sunday, January 05, 08:03:07pm (host86-189-153-4.range86-189.btcentralplus.com/86.189.153.4)
Noted that Pereira came alone and clapped the fans at the end. I wonder if he expects a deal to be done?
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- Re: Applause at the end (NT) -- He always claps at the End., Sunday, January 05, 08:14:26pm (host-217-8-22-33.as13285.net/217.8.22.33)
- Let's hope so. (NT) -- GA, Sunday, January 05, 08:50:00pm (ool-18b90125.dyn.optonline.net/24.185.1.37)
- He was genuinely poor again. £15m yes please he just doesn’t fit in with us. Maybe somewhere with the sun on his back? Why wasn’t King brought on? (NT) -- CB, Sunday, January 05, 10:46:15pm (213-18-164-61.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.164.61)
- Re: Applause at the end (NT) -- Pereira’s passing abysmal. Playing to get away ?, Monday, January 06, 01:27:41am (host-217-8-22-33.as13285.net/217.8.22.33)
- Joachim Anderson -- Mike Gregg, Sunday, January 05, 08:01:27pm (NoHost/51.37.87.116)
Absolutely pony.
Him and Bassey do not gel well together
Very very disappointed
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- Re: Joachim Anderson (NT) -- Having he’s struggles hope he plays through it, Sunday, January 05, 08:18:45pm (host-217-8-22-33.as13285.net/217.8.22.33)
- Yeh he has been appalling the last few games (NT) -- DK, Sunday, January 05, 08:19:28pm (82-132-231-140.dab.02.net/82.132.231.140)
- Have you seen all the games this season or is this your first? (NT) -- Doh, Sunday, January 05, 10:02:22pm (host86-191-39-143.range86-191.btcentralplus.com/86.191.39.143)
- Jeez, this board gets even crazier, I wonder if all messageboards gets hounded by the weirdos. (NT) -- Pablo, Sunday, January 05, 10:14:52pm (host86-167-153-83.range86-167.btcentralplus.com/86.167.153.83)
- Stick to your sausage rolls, you have a bit of knowledge about those (NT) -- Long Termer, Monday, January 06, 08:30:57am (host86-179-114-84.range86-179.btcentralplus.com/86.179.114.84)
- Emile Smith-Rowe -- Gary Elkins Shin Pad, Sunday, January 05, 07:50:18pm (NoHost/94.2.191.100)
Absolute fu**ing Pony !
What a waste of money, when we do nothing this window and you're all moaning, just remember that Silva authorised we spend £65 million on ESR and Andersen, neither of which should be anywhere near our starting eleven,
I've been going since 1970 and I've never been more disappointed in a player before as I am with Smith-Rowe, gives the impression he doesn't even want to be here, I would say "get rid" but we wouldn't even get half our money back.
Does anyone want to make a case for him starting any time soon ? If so,at the expense of who ?
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- My god we do have some hysterical types on here. Play and pass for our second goal was class. Started season strong, tailed off, but plenty of time to get going again, also you realise players sign for 4+ years and not 3 months? Still on track for 6 goals and 6 assists for the season, that ain’t bad in anyone’s book. In hindsight this is probably a WUM post and I’ve fallen for it. (NT) -- Henry1879, Sunday, January 05, 08:00:09pm (croy-26-b2-v4wan-167127-cust1611.vm24.cable.virginm.net/82.38.22.76)
- He’s never been that high intensity dynamic player we would all love to see. However , ex Arsenal ( see also Nketiah similar price ) and still quite young . Thing is he is immediately looking for the return ball once he lays it off , so trying to make things happen . But for me not enough runners to support him . Compare to Cairney who yet again today showed what a waste it is starting him. Fitness issues , and fewer static players around him will see an improvement (NT) -- Mickey, Sunday, January 05, 08:09:07pm (host86-149-156-201.range86-149.btcentralplus.com/86.149.156.201)
- Andersen gas been excellent and it takes time getting used to pkaying in a 5 instead of a 4 at the back. ESR split their defence with that pass to Raul for the 2nd pen. If there is an issue we do not pkay through the channels and getting crosses in seems to be our only option until we go all in at the end of games. (NT) -- Going, Sunday, January 05, 08:13:44pm (host86-191-39-143.range86-191.btcentralplus.com/86.191.39.143)
- I find this weird, read we have put in more crosses than any other team, but largely start Raul who typically drops and links play, he’s not a Chris wood or mitrovic and we never have a CM arriving late and getting on to things. The weakness today was behind davis, their left wing back, but we didn’t exploit it at all. Still, there’s not a huge amount wrong, we’ve got a scorer in form, get back to a 4 and injuries back and on to the next. (NT) -- Henry1879, Sunday, January 05, 08:21:56pm (croy-26-b2-v4wan-167127-cust1611.vm24.cable.virginm.net/82.38.22.76)
- Watch the highlights - Smith-Rowe carried the ball forward and made the key incisive pass for both our penalties - to Wilson and to Jimemez. I'd argue he's a huge improvement on either Cairney or Pereira. (NT) -- JamieR, Sunday, January 05, 10:26:02pm (82-132-212-102.dab.02.net/82.132.212.102)
- Vision and execution in the second case were of the highest class and a reminder (starting to be needed, frankly) of what he was acquired for. I'd certainly favour testing your opinion by starting him in the TC/AP position, enforcing that degree of involvement and responsibility, and see if that is where the future lies. Conditions suit, as we're utterly safe, but won't be reaching Europe as things stand. So now's the time. (NT) -- b+w g., Monday, January 06, 12:44:40am (68.52.159.143.dyn.plus.net/143.159.52.68)
- Absolutely - intelligent circulation of the ball led to both our goals - I sometimes wonder if people come on here, see the result and it was 'only Ipswich' - and start firing off abuse having not even watched the game. ESR will be disappointed with the heading opportunity but that's probably not his strong suit. (NT) -- Rupert, Monday, January 06, 10:11:44am (NoHost/90.193.226.124)
- 32 -28- 30(today) goals scored last 3 seasons matchday20 (NT) -- Chilly morning, Monday, January 06, 09:53:13am (2e409fa8.skybroadband.com/46.64.159.168)
- Couple of things - not particularly original -- Henry1879, Sunday, January 05, 07:31:02pm (croy-26-b2-v4wan-167127-cust1611.vm24.cable.virginm.net/82.38.22.76)
First, silva gets all manner of plaudits, rightly so, but he and his staff should also be criticised when it’s right to do so. Tactically, as most have said below, why do we keep playing with 3 CBs, feels like he just doesn’t want to drop one or Anderson/diop. I’m firmly in the diop camp now, Anderson looks slow and vulnerable, diop in a back 4 with Cuenca/bassey is what I’d play. We are nullifying Robinson, he’s best coming from deep, with iwobi dragging the full back inside and Robbo running off the back of attackers, not starting high and facing the full back like a winger. It kept ending up with having 3 CBS v delap and diop left with the ball, just go back to basics and what we know works.
My weekly moan about corners/free kicks, it’s just so poor, do we work on them at all? It looks like we have no plan. Watch a good set piece team and you see creativity, blocking, surrounding the keeper, intrigue as to what’s coming next, we just chuck it in and hope someone gets on the end of it. I don’t care if we don’t have a set piece coach, we were great at them 2 seasons ago, when don’t think we had one, just work on it, our current coaches are good enough. Tight games against defensive teams we’ll get loads of corners, nick a goal early and whole dynamic changes, but we are so toothless from them we eradicate that way of winning. Forest don’t often blow teams away, but they can keep it tight and pinch a set piece goal, no reason we can’t win that way at times.
Positively, how brilliant was Raul, energy, desire, never shies away, as long as he is like this he is a top half prem CF, decent goal output and brilliant link play, as silva says CF isn’t priority. It’s so easy to say buy a CF when we have 1 blank, but he’s not the problem generally. Also thought Wilson was other one who was really at it. I wrote about how our squad is athletic and built for end to end football, but the consequence of that is our struggle against deep defending types, might just be you can’t have it all, but we make our life far easier with 8-10 corner goals a season.
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- One thing Silva got right today was finally playing both strikers together. When I saw Muniz standing in the touchline I was dreading Jimenez's number coming up like every other week so far. Thank goodness he stayed on the pitch for those penalties and as you say he was superb all round. Agree also with your points about the shape nullifying Robinson. When Berge is back we should revert to two centre halves and yes, Diop and Bassey for me too. (NT) -- JamieR, Sunday, January 05, 07:44:28pm (82-132-212-102.dab.02.net/82.132.212.102)
- Forgot to add - Silva’s meltdowns with refs can’t help us, yes he wants to win, but we became almost a mirror of him, he was losing his head and we lost ours just after our 1sr goal, too much emotion. He, therefore we, can become obsessed with the ref, when we’d be better served expending that energy on ourselves. Injustices will happen, it’s how we react that will determine us, getting embroiled in a single decision won’t help us win, think we can keep a cooler head at times. (NT) -- Henry1879, Sunday, January 05, 08:11:35pm (croy-26-b2-v4wan-167127-cust1611.vm24.cable.virginm.net/82.38.22.76)
- Re: Couple of things - not particularly original (NT) -- What about uncle Willy to the EOS 👍, Sunday, January 05, 08:22:16pm (host-217-8-22-33.as13285.net/217.8.22.33)
- Agree with this. Also we need to stop starting Cairney. TC has been a Fulham legend but has never ripped up trees as a starter in the Premier League. And that's not going to change at 33. Slow, ponderous on the ball, predictable and hopeless at chasing lost possession. He's great as a sub with 20-30 to go, but without Berge it should have been Leno - Castagne - Diop - Bassey - Robinson; Lukic, Pereira: Wilson, Smith-Rowe, Iwobi; Jimenez (NT) -- Magic Matt, Sunday, January 05, 09:00:18pm (97e211ab.skybroadband.com/151.226.17.171)
- add throw ins to corners and free kicks (NT) -- too pedestrian, Sunday, January 05, 11:06:14pm (host86-153-178-227.range86-153.btcentralplus.com/86.153.178.227)
- MOTD this evening -- Al, Sunday, January 05, 07:00:36pm (NoHost/193.17.86.250)
I reckon 20 minutes of Sousers v Man U, the 10 minute discussion on the merits of these fine teams then a 2 minute highlights of our game with a brief comment on how well Ipswich are playing.
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- Wrong formation -- Honest, Sunday, January 05, 06:44:07pm (host5-81-118-152.range5-81.btcentralplus.com/5.81.118.152)
I thought against a team struggling to survive relagation playing 3 centrebacks was the wrong option. Robinson is far better overlapping from left back and Castagne doesn't get forward enough to play the wing back role.Even so we dominated the first 30 minutes but failed to find a cutting edge. We played far to slowly and against a defensive opponent we needed to switch play more often and play some balls over the top to get them backpeddling. All of the play was in front of them and as always when you dominate games the opposition has one attack and scores. We changed the system in the second half but still played a little slowly. Finally we got going but have to say that was the worst referee I have seen for a long time. Jiminez definitely mam of the match for me and another two points dropped against a poor side. Still 9th in the table but we really should be in the top five had we dropped so many points.
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- Have to dsay, having a big critic previiusly of Robbo's crossing, he really needs to start giving Timmo some lessons ! (NT) -- -, Sunday, January 05, 06:54:20pm (host31-48-23-179.range31-48.btcentralplus.com/31.48.23.179)
- Whilst I agree with the gist of your post, I don't agree that we should be in the top 5. Ninth is probably our level. We struggled against Leicester, Wolves, Southampton and Ipswich at home. We obviously don't have the resources, tactics to put these teams to the sword. Our strength appears to be playing on the counter against better teams. (NT) -- Juana Aorta, Sunday, January 05, 07:17:28pm (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
- We are so pedestrian Fulham Si -- Fulham Si, Sunday, January 05, 05:56:46pm (static-87-75-192-243.vodafonexdsl.co.uk/87.75.192.243)
We say that Ipswich played defensively but that’s not exactly true! We had 70% ish possession so they of course spent a lot of time defending their own half, however in possession they played a high line. Our problem is the only player we have with pace is Robinson so we couldn’t play off the shoulder of the last man when Ipswich played their high line. We play ball to feet and only in panic at tend if the game did we try playing into the channels for our players to run on to. We have to inject pace into our forwards so we can put in through balls just inside the oppositions half!
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- Home Form -- Life During Wartime, Sunday, January 05, 05:35:30pm (host-217-8-22-33.as13285.net/217.8.22.33)
Count on one Hand really impressive home Performances this season. We really find it difficult trying to force the issue against the lower sides who are willing to sit and play on the Break. Maybe the tougher home games to come will suit us Better.
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- I couldn’t believe we played a back five and to holding midfielders against 3 rd from bottom team . First half was a disgrace slow tepid sideways pass back crap football. Lukic and Cairney were camped in our half no outlet or movement. Last 20 mins we played with tempo and desire and wanted it . Can we please play like that instead of the crap first half -- Button, Sunday, January 05, 05:29:24pm (nmal-23-b2-v4wan-169190-cust1261.vm24.cable.virginm.net/80.5.116.238)
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- ESR..... -- JK69, Sunday, January 05, 05:13:50pm (33bf6c6b.skybroadband.com/51.191.108.107)
... What on earth has happened to him?
Looks unfit, uninspired and totally
uninterested.
I hope I'm wrong but to me it looks like he just doesn't want to be at the club.
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- On a cheery note... -- Greenpole, Sunday, January 05, 04:08:27pm (82-132-234-72.dab.02.net/82.132.234.72)
Oh well at least we're getting the difficult matches out of the way shouldnt worry we've still got Liverpool, Chelsea and man city to come to the cottage so should be able to make up the points there!
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- RAUL MOM! -- CB, Sunday, January 05, 04:06:56pm (213-18-164-61.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.164.61)
Not just his pens but the sheer effort he puts in for 90+ minutes.
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- If everyone showed the desire that he does we’d have won that game, absolutely desperate to get involved and win the points. Not sure what else people want from a CF? He’s on pace for 16 and adds so so much around the pitch, whenever we draw a blank people bang on about a new CF, but he has the ability and all round game to continue as a really good prem CF. (NT) -- Henry1879, Sunday, January 05, 04:11:02pm (croy-26-b2-v4wan-167127-cust1611.vm24.cable.virginm.net/82.38.22.76)
- To be fair how good was that second penalty under pressure. (NT) -- HemelRog, Sunday, January 05, 04:25:38pm (5ec0f8a7.skybroadband.com/94.192.248.167)
- Thought Wilson put a shift in today, he would be my motm (NT) -- Hg, Sunday, January 05, 04:26:38pm (NoHost/31.94.64.41)
- His commitment is as impressive as his skills. Just to add that ESR made a really good pass to Raul from which we got our 2nd penalty. (NT) -- Bexhill Beast, Sunday, January 05, 04:35:23pm (host86-179-28-44.range86-179.btcentralplus.com/86.179.28.44)
- Re: RAUL MOM! (NT) -- Hard work playing up front for Fulham, Sunday, January 05, 05:20:28pm (host-217-8-22-33.as13285.net/217.8.22.33)
- Looks like heading practice on Monday.. -- ,, Sunday, January 05, 03:37:50pm (NoHost/188.166.174.158)
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- ESR..harder to miss that header than to score -- ,, Sunday, January 05, 03:21:58pm (NoHost/188.166.174.158)
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- Twat -- Malc, Sunday, January 05, 03:14:25pm (054250cd.skybroadband.com/5.66.80.205)
"A master class by Ipswich" !
Who is this dickhead?
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- Love Silva... -- G, Sunday, January 05, 03:00:13pm (NoHost/90.213.242.75)
But doesn't seem to have a plan B when defensive teams come to the Cottage. Need to play with much more tempo.
Good thing about performances like this is that Silva won't be getting offered a job anywhere else...
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- What an utter load of 💩💩💩💩 yet again against a bottom 3 side -- Ffc, Sunday, January 05, 02:53:44pm (host109-151-211-176.range109-151.btcentralplus.com/109.151.211.176)
Cairney …. Can he get any slower ….. bring him on when we’re 2 up with something to protect ……he can’t start !!!!
We haven’t got a clue how to break down low block teams ….we have no nouse what so ever ….big problem
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- This is utter shite! -- Fulham Si, Sunday, January 05, 02:49:44pm (NoHost/148.252.132.138)
We are so slow from back to front every week the oppo just gets back into shape! The reason we do better against teams that are towards the top half of the table is that they are always looking to push on and score. We can’t break down defensive teams towards the bottom if the table because of our inability to hit them on the counter on the rare times they do push forward!
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- So frustrating -- Ken, Sunday, January 05, 02:49:06pm (33C63E8e.skybroadband.com/51.198.62.142)
So slow, lethargic, wake up Fulham!
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- Anthony Robinson -- Deep Si, Sunday, January 05, 02:11:23pm (cpc115930-epso6-2-0-cust535.6-3.cable.virginm.net/81.107.246.24)
has just been named the US Male Football (not soccer) Player of the Year 2024.
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- we have a new signing today! -- NM, Sunday, January 05, 01:33:15pm (NoHost/185.100.87.166)
Ben Godfrey at CC today. Will sign straight after the game!
DSTM
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- Re: the same one that is signing for Ipswich on loan? (NT) -- Harry Bayles, Sunday, January 05, 01:47:32pm (NoHost/31.22.15.65)
- Re: we have a new signing today! (NT) -- We are signing Godfrey from Dads Army., Sunday, January 05, 05:28:24pm (host-217-8-22-33.as13285.net/217.8.22.33)
- Yes he's hitching a lift back to Ipswich, with whom he has signed. (NT) -- Fact, Sunday, January 05, 06:49:06pm (host-80-46-12-4.as13285.net/80.46.12.4)
- NO Omari Hutchinson? well thats a bonus! -- cajun jerk chicken fam, Sunday, January 05, 01:15:59pm (NoHost/89.221.217.206)
know nothing about the other / starting tractor boys wingmen
butt that lad Omari Hutchinson was imo a real handful earlier this seasoning!
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- Is silva morphing into Parker. -- Hg, Sunday, January 05, 01:00:17pm (88-97-36-164.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/88.97.36.164)
Why are we playing 5 at the back against Ipswich. Such a negative tactic.
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- ESR...something not quite working out there. Self described as a lion. Yet to see it on the pitch -- Trent, Sunday, January 05, 12:44:45pm (NoHost/51.37.87.116)
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- That's so Craven on Discord -- Juana Aorta, Sunday, January 05, 12:04:48pm (92.40.168.199.threembb.co.uk/92.40.168.199)
Has anyone else joined this Fulham FC discussion site? I'm hoping others might jump ship as it'll be free of the type of posts below.
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- ESR out flu and Wilson late fitness test -- Rainman, Sunday, January 05, 12:00:53pm (nosoignons.cust.milkywan.net/80.67.167.81)
team news
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- Saturday's embargoed section (22:30) Silva: "I don't know if the fans are demanding or asking for a new striker. I think we have to look for different positions before the striker right now. Or you have £60M, and then you go for a striker!" #FFC -- Marco Silva presser from fof, Sunday, January 05, 08:15:44am (2e409fa8.skybroadband.com/46.64.159.168)
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- 8 points from the four seasonal games -- Gary, Saturday, January 04, 09:31:02pm (host31-50-6-236.range31-50.btcentralplus.com/31.50.6.236)
Would be a decent return! Southampton had a new fella in charge and had just taken a hiding against Spurs previous week in the league there had to be an Improvement. Chelsea we dine out out for years with that result. Bournemouth creditable draw against a good team.
So on to Ipswich. Though they have played well recently they are subject to a tonking every now and then?
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- Tomorrow -- Depressed, Saturday, January 04, 05:01:16pm (host-92-18-247-207.as13285.net/92.18.247.207)
Will we beat a bottom 3 team tomorrow?
I will keep my fingers crossed.
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- Southampton 0-5 Brentford 5 -- Ffc, Saturday, January 04, 04:56:18pm (host109-151-211-176.range109-151.btcentralplus.com/109.151.211.176)
Of all the points we’ve dropped this season ……how the hell didnt we manage to beat Southampton
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- I suppose you can't match results? Football doesn't work like that, I'm sure Brentford would have wanted a point at home v Arsenal, like us. But they lost 3-1! (NT) -- John, Saturday, January 04, 06:15:25pm (c149-247.i06-6.onvol.net/77.71.149.247)
- Squad rotation is important, particularly over the Christmas period. Young players were given valuable game time against Saints at home and we won at Walham Green Dog Track for the first time in 45 years. What's not to like ? (NT) -- FFC inBrighton., Saturday, January 04, 06:57:01pm (host109-154-244-105.range109-154.btcentralplus.com/109.154.244.105)
- I knew some plonker would post something exactly like this after that result. And I’d have put my mortgage on it being one of our resident drips who hasn’t got a scooby about football.. (NT) -- ….and bingo, here he is, Saturday, January 04, 07:34:24pm (4e56a84b.skybroadband.com/78.86.168.75)
- Oh FFS. (NT) -- GA, Saturday, January 04, 09:27:45pm (ool-18b90125.dyn.optonline.net/24.185.1.37)
- Their defending was atrocious. Almost Spurs-esque (NT) -- ASPT, Sunday, January 05, 12:10:30am (NoHost/1.145.118.182)
- Ticket office. -- Neil G, Saturday, January 04, 03:00:59pm (duns-08-b2-v4wan-167847-cust2490.vm32.cable.virginm.net/80.2.121.187)
Can you call them tomorrow? Once again, tried to forward my ticket and it won’t work.
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- It really irritates me - -- Rupert, Saturday, January 04, 10:23:28am (NoHost/90.193.226.124)
Ipswich are in pink this weekend - Fulham v Ipswich is a classic hostorical fixture - black-and-white against blue-and-white - unless there's an obvious clash strip changes should be banned -
and we always play rubbish against crap colours - wolves anyone?
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- We always play rubbish against any side in the bottom 3 no matter what colour they play in (NT) -- Ffc, Saturday, January 04, 11:03:03am (host109-151-211-176.range109-151.btcentralplus.com/109.151.211.176)
- That's one of my pet peeves of modern football. I really prefer it when teams wear their traditional colours. Sometimes away kits can be the club's traditional away colours, but pink for Ipswich really isn't the case. (NT) -- Pavlov's dog, Saturday, January 04, 11:07:19am (host-89-243-8-175.as13285.net/89.243.8.175)
- I'm old to remember change strips. Now it's an 'away' strip. All about marketing replica shirts. (NT) -- Beano Reader, Saturday, January 04, 01:23:29pm (NoHost/109.144.218.169)
- Southampton in pink was terrible as well. I guess it's a sign of the times. "Come on you pinkies". (NT) -- Hammersmithender, Saturday, January 04, 02:04:09pm (NoHost/31.94.14.112)
- I'm sure my dodgy memory remembers us playing the last home game of the season in the next years new away strip - which was all blue. Or was it bad nightmare? (NT) -- Hammersmithender, Saturday, January 04, 03:53:33pm (NoHost/31.94.14.112)
- LCFC away ?? -- FlitwickFulham, Saturday, January 04, 09:30:40am (flit-04-b2-v4wan-169180-cust2921.vm32.cable.virginm.net/81.96.171.106)
Anyone on here been to King Power ? Wots it like for Parking or using Park & Ride ?? Thanx
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- We used justpark. I just had a look and you can find parking for a £10, 20 min walk from the ground linkhttps://www.justpark.com/search?arriving=2025-01-18T13%3A00&leaving=2025-01-18T17%3A30&q=Leicester+City+Football+Club%2C+Filbert+Way%2C+Leicester%2C+UK&coords=52.6206502%2C-1.1433006&place_id=ChIJd53fK9dgd0gRYZCcSs-Lk3Y&filters=reservable (NT) -- Sam, Saturday, January 04, 10:59:05am (cpc159747-finc22-2-0-cust115.4-2.cable.virginm.net/81.108.184.116)
- Had a stadium tour there many years ago when it was quite new! (NT) -- Waterboy, Saturday, January 04, 11:37:34am (NoHost/84.65.35.84)
- LCFC fans tend to park up all along the local roads meaning it can be a bit of a lottery. As above, JustPark etc sell spaces at the local stores very near the away pubs and 10-15 mins walk from the ground. (NT) -- Dullard, Saturday, January 04, 12:20:13pm (NoHost/136.226.167.104)
- On a related note, has anyone's Leicester tickets turned up yet? (NT) -- MF, Saturday, January 04, 04:23:37pm (36.149.6.51.dyn.plus.net/51.6.149.36)
- James Maddison - how did we miss out on him? -- Britt, Saturday, January 04, 01:51:01am (NoHost/45.148.10.169)
A player that scores 10 goals a season and assists another 10
Wheres ours?
Is ESR supposed to be our version?
Or are we trying to get 5 players to score 5 and assist 3
like Iwobi, Nelson, ESR, Wilson and AP?
is there doubts about Josh King being this type of player?
how about that other young talent we loaned to Birmingham.
maybe this is why we are after McAtee ?
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- Madison's PL goals by season (2018-present, aged 22-28): 7, 6, 8, 12, 10, 4, 8. ESR scored 10 at age 21, spent 2 years effectively out, and is on pace for 6-7. So he's clearly capable of Madison's goalscoring. Not sure about the question how we missed out on Madison. Is he someone we could have bought? Signed for Leicester two years after they won the league for 20m, when we had just been promoted via the playoffs, after him having one really great championship season. (NT) -- eganonoa, Saturday, January 04, 02:37:38am (dis-wc-pon.host.227.smartcitytelecom.com/207.190.20.227)
- Help -- Andrew in Bath, Friday, January 03, 09:29:48pm (NoHost/90.220.13.200)
My pass has not updated from Bournemouth game - please remind me, someone on what to do. Thanks
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- Fulham reject Palmeiras bid for midfielder Pereira -- Costa Blanca White, Friday, January 03, 07:59:58pm (NoHost/37.152.139.55)
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happy we've gone on record early on to reject a low bid. £15-16m. But highly suspect if anyone bids £20m we'll take it and look to sign someone better, or better for our needs CF or a better CM for Silva's system. (NT) -- josh king its time, Friday, January 03, 09:13:06pm (NoHost/185.40.4.100)
- Tend to think £15-£16m is a decent price! Not sure there is much more improvement in Pereira than what we have seen last couple of seasons. He is a nice tidy footballer but more a B+ type. (NT) -- Gary, Friday, January 03, 09:45:41pm (host31-50-6-236.range31-50.btcentralplus.com/31.50.6.236)
- Take the money and run (NT) -- GA, Friday, January 03, 10:53:33pm (ool-18b90125.dyn.optonline.net/24.185.1.37)
- Not bad business. Buy for £10m. Sell for £15m. If he was playing like his early days I'd say "keep him" but he's struggling. Some players need to move on regularly to perform. (NT) -- old codger, Saturday, January 04, 08:38:02am (0543ba4b.skybroadband.com/5.67.186.75)
- Re: Fulham reject Palmeiras bid for midfielder Pereira (NT) -- Frustrating to watch atm press missed vs Soton., Saturday, January 04, 09:10:52am (host-217-8-22-33.as13285.net/217.8.22.33)
- Re: Fulham reject Palmeiras bid for midfielder Pereira (NT) -- Being told Will Hughes West London bound, Saturday, January 04, 09:20:31am (host-217-8-22-33.as13285.net/217.8.22.33)
- Been one or 2 Premier League clubs sniffing around - - has to be worth well north of 20 in the current market otherwise we keep - selling any player under contract has to be in a club's interests - it's why they get generous contracts. (NT) -- Rupert, Saturday, January 04, 10:02:23am (NoHost/90.193.226.124)
- Bad news I'm afraid. -- Gary Elkins Shin Pad, Friday, January 03, 02:03:21pm (NoHost/94.2.191.100)
Sander Berge is out again this weekend,
Would you be happy to see 5 at the back again or is it time for change?
I say Change.
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- problems and headaches for Silva. playing 3 CBs requires 3 godd CBs. we have only Bassey and 2 on the slide and 1 sub CB whoses new to this league. problem again going to 2 DCM, only have 1 fit in Lukic. and TC as so called cover. Until Berge and Reed are back. 2 CDM is a pipe dream. (NT) -- pray Diop and Joc backonform, Friday, January 03, 02:17:11pm (NoHost/185.40.4.92)
- he didn't play against Chelsea and Bournemouth (NT) -- 4 points, Friday, January 03, 02:47:59pm (2e409fa8.skybroadband.com/46.64.159.168)
- I think Silva will return to a back 4 ( with Andersen stepping down ), and our 3 CMs as Lukic , AP and ESR. Cairney for me always off the bench and only when we want to see a game out . If this isn’t the right game for ESR what will it be ? King will be knocking on the door to start soon enough. Iwobi and Wilson wide and Jimenez to continue starting for now (NT) -- Mickey, Friday, January 03, 03:38:58pm (82-132-230-209.dab.02.net/82.132.230.209)
- Re: I Andersen and Bassey if we go to a four. Not unhappy with a five as we do have 3 good centrebacks. I expect 4 at the back tomorrow. With Lukic Cairney Pereira in the middle and Wilson Jiminez Iwobi up top. (NT) -- Honest, Friday, January 03, 03:44:54pm (host5-81-118-152.range5-81.btcentralplus.com/5.81.118.152)
- Agree with all of that, unless Ipswich are expected to press high, in which case Andersen for Diop. But otherwise I'd do exactly as you suggest. (NT) -- eganonoa, Friday, January 03, 04:29:13pm (NoHost/172.56.74.141)
- I think Diop’s last minute error in regular time has made Marco’s decision easier for him. I suspect Diop drops to the bench. (NT) -- Straw Clutchers Anonymous, Friday, January 03, 07:22:02pm (NoHost/90.196.12.62)
- Did you all see the stats comparison between AP and Will Hughes? If true. Then clearly AP isn't suited for his role in a 4 at the back system. He and EsR is smiley 😁 no tackler in there? (NT) -- Go 5 CBS if no Bergen no Reed, Friday, January 03, 03:56:35pm (NoHost/167.98.181.45)
- I took it as good news that it seems like Berge will be back for the following league game at West Ham. We should have enough to get past Ipswich without Berge. Not saying it will be easy (Southampton at home proved that), but we should have enough... (NT) -- G, Friday, January 03, 05:07:22pm (NoHost/90.213.242.75)
- How was Cairney voted Man of the Match v Bournemouth he only played 28 minutes. Leno pulled off some top saves 💯 he is definitely man of the match -- Button, Friday, January 03, 01:36:53pm (nmal-23-b2-v4wan-169190-cust1261.vm24.cable.virginm.net/80.5.116.238)
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- Re: 💯 he Cairney changed the game when he came on. .uch more control of the ball , definitely MOM for me. (NT) -- Honest, Friday, January 03, 03:40:21pm (host5-81-118-152.range5-81.btcentralplus.com/5.81.118.152)
- Because he got the most votes??.......(Including mine) (NT) -- GA, Friday, January 03, 03:59:09pm (ool-18b90125.dyn.optonline.net/24.185.1.37)
- Because he gave us back contro in a brilliant performance.Leno would have been fair as well. (NT) -- HemelRog, Friday, January 03, 04:54:11pm (5ec0f8a7.skybroadband.com/94.192.248.167)
- Cairney fully deserved it. Leno was excellent. But despite his 33 years, Cairney looked like one of the best midfielders in the Premier League against Bournemouth. Oozed class and on that display would slot nicely into a top four team. (NT) -- p, Friday, January 03, 05:09:45pm (NoHost/90.213.242.75)
- Has probably earned a start for Sunday - one of Fulham's greatest servants - he and Ream should have a joint charity match - be a wonderful occasion. (NT) -- Rupert, Saturday, January 04, 10:09:02am (NoHost/90.193.226.124)
- New Year. = New Challenges -- Al's Pal, Friday, January 03, 12:26:56pm (NoHost/45.148.10.169)
If you could upgrade only ONE position/role/player this month, who? For me its the CB partner for Bassey!
Need a right sided 'Bassey'. Then the Goals conceded should go down.?
lets continue with the big one tonight/
Luke Littler or Michael van Gerwen?
Goes to the wire. ITS MVG for us, Luke is nuked.
Rumours abound. PSG owners looking at A London Club. Will you be happy if Shad sold us to Qataris?
and finally. Who going to the Womans game? only £1
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- Striker, surely. A Louis Saha-type ideally. But Mitrovic Mk II would do... (NT) -- p, Friday, January 03, 12:35:11pm (NoHost/90.213.242.75)
- The London club is Tottenham (NT) -- Button, Friday, January 03, 03:38:57pm (nmal-23-b2-v4wan-169190-cust1261.vm24.cable.virginm.net/80.5.116.238)
- Re: New Year. = New Challenges; Definitely not a centreback! Would lose Vinicius and bring in a striker. (NT) -- Honest, Friday, January 03, 03:47:10pm (host5-81-118-152.range5-81.btcentralplus.com/5.81.118.152)
- I see it the other way around, we concede late as we don't put any teams away when we have the chances. The defence is backs against the wall nearly every game with no respite. If we have natural goalscorers we would have beaten Ham/Everton/Bournemouth and possibly even Utd and city (NT) -- Waterboy, Friday, January 03, 05:35:46pm (NoHost/84.65.35.84)
- Upgrade Vini for a young attacker who can play wide forward and score. Wilson to be thought of more as a central attacking mid alongside Andreas, ESR and Cairney (NT) -- eganonoa, Friday, January 03, 05:39:23pm (NoHost/172.56.74.163)
- Josh Maja. Centre Forward. Our next Super Eagle? -- Bad Boy, Thursday, January 02, 01:30:05pm (NoHost/2.222.160.125)
WBA are waiting for the right offer for Maja (£9.9m allegedly.) it appears they need to get their finances in order…..45% goal participation this season. Good stats, right age & knows EFL. Struggled under Puffa Boy, but most did. Gotta be worth an enquiry, methinks.
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- We should be aiming for European football not Championship!! (NT) -- MLC, Thursday, January 02, 01:37:21pm (NoHost/104.28.86.115)
- One of our own, why not. Could become the new Lookman (NT) -- Al, Thursday, January 02, 02:42:50pm (NoHost/193.17.86.250)
- He is double shit, cannot play on his own up front, he has found his level (NT) -- WBA bite your arm off for £5m, Thursday, January 02, 02:46:27pm (host81-158-31-10.range81-158.btcentralplus.com/81.158.31.10)
- Re: Josh Maja. Centre Forward. Our next Super Eagle? (NT) -- Lacking quality at the top level., Thursday, January 02, 05:47:21pm (host-217-8-22-33.as13285.net/217.8.22.33)
- You're having a laugh. (NT) -- RR, Friday, January 03, 02:05:37am (ec2-52-24-62-250.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com/52.24.62.250)
- Burnley. -- Juana Aorta, Thursday, January 02, 12:54:27pm (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
I see Scott Parker has started 'digging in' for the winter. Two nil nils and one one all draw in the last 3 games. He's like a more cautious version of Chris Houghton.
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- C’mon cut the fella some slack. 9 conceded in 25 games best defence in the 4 divisions. (NT) -- Bad Boy, Thursday, January 02, 01:15:09pm (NoHost/2.222.160.125)
- 7 of their games ended 0-0, this must be some kind of record (NT) -- Sam, Thursday, January 02, 01:57:13pm (cpc159747-finc22-2-0-cust115.4-2.cable.virginm.net/81.108.184.116)
- Agréé can’t stand the guy but remarkable defensive record hard to beat and could still take the title, for sure in the premiership next season. (NT) -- CB, Friday, January 03, 08:57:50am (213-18-164-61.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.164.61)
- Since their opening 2 games, they are scoring less than a goal a game. (NT) -- HE, Saturday, January 04, 09:50:49am (lewi-28-b2-v4wan-166893-cust665.vm4.cable.virginm.net/86.16.2.154)
- Where does this Fulham want 40 million for Robinson come from?All the forums seem to think it is a given and their right as big clubs.Have Fulham ever stated this.We may only get 40 but if he has to go let’s try for more.Not to mention pundits and poxy podcasts. -- HemelRog, Thursday, January 02, 10:00:08am (5ec0f8a7.skybroadband.com/94.192.248.167)
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- If i had time I'd like to take every rumour on the bbc gossip column taken from a mixture of papers, see what percentage actually comes true from May to September! (NT) -- Waterboy, Thursday, January 02, 10:14:06am (NoHost/84.65.35.84)
- You assuming everyone has the same interests . You have to allow for commission . (NT) -- alanos, Thursday, January 02, 10:22:11am (82-132-213-114.dab.02.net/82.132.213.114)
- I'll take 'His Agent' for $200 (NT) -- ASPT, Thursday, January 02, 10:38:34am (114-129-187-208.ip4.superloop.au/114.129.187.208)
- Re: Where does this Fulham want 40 million for Robinson come from?All the forums seem to think it is a given and their right as big clubs.Have Fulham ever stated this.We may only get 40 but if he has to go let’s try for more.Not to mention pundits and poxy podcasts. (NT) -- What’s he’s Valuation 50 mill ?, Thursday, January 02, 11:58:25am (host-217-8-22-33.as13285.net/217.8.22.33)
- The back of a fag packet. The bidding won't start until June this year. He's got 5 - 7 years left before he loses the pace he has, playing at the highest level. I doubt we will get more than £55 million for him, even if we want to sell him, or Robinson says he wants to go. (NT) -- Juana Aorta, Thursday, January 02, 12:26:41pm (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
- And the links to Manchester United are laughable. They have to sell before they can buy, and they could be 10 - 12 points behind us before the window shuts. (NT) -- Juana Aorta, Thursday, January 02, 12:33:51pm (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
- Re: Where does this Fulham want 40 million for Robinson come from?All the forums seem to think it is a given and their right as big clubs.Have Fulham ever stated this.We may only get 40 but if he has to go let’s try for more.Not to mention pundits and poxy podcasts. (NT) -- Is Jedi is a big club player. Suited to Fulham?, Thursday, January 02, 12:44:49pm (host-217-8-22-33.as13285.net/217.8.22.33)
- I seem to recall that we may have to pay quite a large percentage of any fee received for him to a previous club or clubs. (NT) -- Mike T, Thursday, January 02, 01:30:00pm (NoHost/51.219.129.25)
- Selling mid -season for under £60m would be crazy . Every place higher than finish the season is an extra £3.5 m I believe and the table is really compact . Also with the (NT) -- alanos, Thursday, January 02, 02:03:16pm (NoHost/31.94.64.156)
- Brentford FC fair play. -- Life During Wartime, Thursday, January 02, 08:36:49am (host-217-8-22-33.as13285.net/217.8.22.33)
£10.00 travel for Juniors. Agreement with Rail Companies 20% Discount for Fans on Rail travel. Frozen Season Ticket prices 2025/26.
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- Sundays game. Minutes applause -- …., Wednesday, January 01, 06:40:53pm (NoHost/31.94.64.180)
Taken from TOOFIF Facebook page..
We need to arrange a minutes applause at the 13th minute, at the Ipswich game to mark the sad passing of a young lad who after 3 years of fighting against Leukeamia finally lost his battle.
Little Zach was a season ticket holder with his family in the JH stand
The club are aware of this and have agreed but it needs to be fan led
Please share and make this happen
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- A great first half of the season but we all know that it could easily have been even better! -- Ted White, Wednesday, January 01, 03:43:29pm (host86-180-166-246.range86-180.btcentralplus.com/86.180.166.246)
With the, maybe, enforced changes that Marco made in the last two games proves that we can play in different ways. My only dissapointment is that we concede too many goals following long balls chipped over our defence. Whilst I fully accept that this can happen to any team, the thing that I am unable to understand is that we have the goalkeeper and defensive players that could be brilliant at executing this type of pass but we so rarely see it done.
We also have the ideal players to chase this type of ball and in Adama, arguably, the best in the Division. I think that it was against Wolves when Bernd hit a long high ball which Raul chased down, outmuscled the defender and scored.
Adama really worries all opposing managers and defences but, for some reason, we are no longer playing to his strengths. A typical example is the lead up to Bournemouth's second equaliser. having not given any balls over the top which he excels at, he was having to drop back into midfield to receive a ball played to his feet and the one time he was not in that space Diop played a ball into it which was intercepted by their player and the rest is history.
When Adama is on the pitch all our defenders should always be looking to chip the ball over the top of the opposition defenders and Adama will prove to be a much different and valuable player. If we can mix this type of ball out of defence and us playing out from the back, it will keep opponents guessing and will be much more reluctant to press us so high.
I hope Bernd knows the rule that you cannot be offside from a goal kick because, often, Raul or Rodrigo will intentionally stand well into the opponents half and behind their defensive line, virtually, crying out for Bernd to launch a long ball over the top only to see Calvin take the kick and almost always simply pass the ball sidewards to him and then he will play it out to a defender, or launch it towards Raul or Rodrigo who can now be deemed offside so they have to drop back, thus allowing the opponent's, often tall, central defenders to have the advantage of facing the ball. The great Sergio Agüero was a brilliant exponent of this tactic and had a superb understanding with Ederson. City often used it to really put opposing defences under pressure, with fast runners busting a gut to get as far up the pitch as possible ready to receive Agüero's lay off.
I honestly believe that really mixing our game up and really playing to all our strengths will yield even better results in the second half of the season.
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- I think we’ve mixed it up well, gone long more than recent seasons. We have played 7th most long balls in the league, when muniz is on the pitch I bet that’s even higher, but it doesn’t suit Raul to play him as a static target man. I also think we are about right points wise, taking FFC specs off we could have got nothing v Ars or Liv who were pushing and CFC/forest games we won with them being quite even. The XG has us about right, every team has ifs, buts and maybes from their results. (NT) -- Henry1879, Wednesday, January 01, 05:02:55pm (croy-26-b2-v4wan-167127-cust1611.vm24.cable.virginm.net/82.38.22.76)
- Whilst I agree with Henry that we have mixed it up a little better this season, I cannot agree that Raul is not suited as a 'static' target man as, since joining us, he has proved time and time again that he can outjump, or outfox, often taller defenders and, more often than not, lay the ball off to a teammate so I believe that Ted has made a good point. (NT) -- Mike T, Thursday, January 02, 07:29:44am (NoHost/51.219.129.25)
- Bournemouth's second goal was in the dying minutes and if Bernd had simply pumped the ball well into their half, putting them on the back foot, instead of passing short centrally to Issa, who clearly did not want, or expect, it the goal would not have been conceded and we would have had another two points in the bag. (NT) -- Ted White, Thursday, January 02, 08:20:49am (host86-180-166-246.range86-180.btcentralplus.com/86.180.166.246)
- I watched the game between Brentford and Arsenal last evening and could not help noticing how Raya kicked long balls over the top more often than not and once he even threw the ball over the Brentford defenders, positioned above the halfway line. (NT) -- Mike T, Thursday, January 02, 08:47:08am (NoHost/51.219.129.25)
- I often yearn for the days when great Fulham goalkeepers, like Maik, Edwin and Mark, to name a few, wasted no time after catching the ball in throwing it to a Fulham player positioned way up the pitch. When we are level, or even behind, there is no urgency from Bernd, or other central defenders, to get the game going again as soon as possible in the most effective manner instead, virtually, always going through the same almost 'robotic' routine and sometimes get into trouble by doing it. (NT) -- Ted White, Thursday, January 02, 09:13:11am (host86-180-166-246.range86-180.btcentralplus.com/86.180.166.246)
- Re: A great first half of the season but we all know that it could easily have been even better! (NT) -- Our Position is about right at the Halfway Point, Wednesday, January 01, 07:31:43pm (host-217-8-22-33.as13285.net/217.8.22.33)
- Callum Wilson -- P, Wednesday, January 01, 03:02:00pm (054622cf.skybroadband.com/5.70.34.207)
Maybe available in January window.
Worth looking at?
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- Too old and injury prone, I’ll repeat what I’ve just posted below: Jonathan David should be a priority IMO. 25 in a few days time, scores 1 in 2 wherever he’s been including internationals. Out of contract at Lille at the end of the season, £5mill to £10mill should give us an absolute bargain and, could play with either Raul or Muniz. (NT) -- Straw Clutchers Anonymous, Wednesday, January 01, 03:10:10pm (NoHost/90.196.12.62)
- WHU wanted David in the summer but put off by 10m+ in signing on and agents fees. No way Lille let him go for that much anyway, probably best CF in France and if he was available for that almost every club in Europe would try and sign him. Class player but he’ll probably end up at a champs league club. (NT) -- Henry1879, Wednesday, January 01, 03:21:45pm (croy-26-b2-v4wan-167127-cust1611.vm24.cable.virginm.net/82.38.22.76)
- Good shout, but how do you know he's not an FFC priority? If only it were that easy! Liverpool are interested for starters, not to mention Barcelona! (NT) -- p, Thursday, January 02, 08:39:28am (82-132-232-78.dab.02.net/82.132.232.78)
- Isn't he the most wanted forward in Europe at the moment, not convinced joining Fulham will be top of his list !! (NT) -- GTS, Thursday, January 02, 11:05:29am (static-customer-assignment.goskope.com/24.206.97.75)
- Re: Callum Wilson (NT) -- Should Ipswich go down Delap ticks boxes, Thursday, January 02, 08:26:18am (host-217-8-22-33.as13285.net/217.8.22.33)
- I believe Jason Koumas is currently out of contract. (NT) -- Ra's al Ghul, Thursday, January 02, 08:48:59am (NoHost/212.132.246.99)
- Fulham should be all over trying to loan with option to buy for Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall he is exactly what we need skillful works hard off the ball and can create out of nothing. Total waste of talent left footed 26 years old go and get him Fulham -- Button, Wednesday, January 01, 11:59:15am (nmal-23-b2-v4wan-169190-cust1261.vm24.cable.virginm.net/80.5.116.238)
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- Re: Fulham should be all over trying to loan with option to buy for Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall he is exactly what we need skillful works hard off the ball and can create out of nothing. Total waste of talent left footed 26 years old go and get him Fulham (NT) -- My Mate agrees. I prefer Endo., Wednesday, January 01, 12:18:22pm (host-217-8-22-33.as13285.net/217.8.22.33)
- chukmuweka, younger, potential to be a star, but higher risk. Problem with KDH, and many others, like chilwell, Rashford, etc is even if you wanted them they’re on 150k+ a week, despite what fans think about players really want to play, most won’t take a substantial pay cut to drop down a bit and play. If Robbo went for big money in the summer chilwell would be a class, but wages will stop it. Really like endo, but not helping our age, which still think needs bringing down. (NT) -- Henry1879, Wednesday, January 01, 01:18:37pm (croy-26-b2-v4wan-167127-cust1611.vm24.cable.virginm.net/82.38.22.76)
- Dewsbury-Hall is on £80 ,000 a week offer £65 with bonuses. (NT) -- Button, Wednesday, January 01, 01:57:26pm (nmal-23-b2-v4wan-169190-cust1261.vm24.cable.virginm.net/80.5.116.238)
- Chukwuemeka ?? (Spelling) is the one we should be interested in. (NT) -- Gary, Wednesday, January 01, 02:35:48pm (host31-50-6-236.range31-50.btcentralplus.com/31.50.6.236)
- Eighth over the calendat year - -- Rupert, Wednesday, January 01, 11:41:55am (NoHost/90.193.226.124)
not too shabby -
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- Free transfers -- Henry1879, Wednesday, January 01, 11:21:24am (croy-26-b2-v4wan-167127-cust1611.vm24.cable.virginm.net/82.38.22.76)
Quite a few out of contract who can theoretically sign deals with European clubs this month. Which would you keep/let go?
Cairney- wage dependent for me, worth another year, but not on huge wages, defo an area we could get younger at.
Traore - believe he has a year option, after that initial burst since rhe Man City game has looked short of confidence and ineffective, probably let go and try and get someone younger in.
Tete - similar to cairney for me, think he’s solid, but not gonna take us to the next level and with castagne offering similar I think we could get someone younger who can offer more going forward.
Raul - the only obvious one to me, great first half season, looks fresh and vibrant, give him the year.
Couple frees might be worth looking at -
Calvert-lewin - could be a late 20s reclamation, brilliant in the air and we put in a hell of a lot of crosses. He has it on him, I think with a more offensive manager than dyche he could score goals. However doesn’t help with the age profile.
Walker pieters/ lamptey - expect both may sign with current clubs, but would offer more attacking threat from RB and bring age down.
Moder - good age, lots of injuries, but well regarded at BHA and rbey have loads ahead of him.
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- Re: Free transfers (NT) -- Devon Tainton and Harvey at Chesterfield 👍, Wednesday, January 01, 12:01:12pm (host-217-8-22-33.as13285.net/217.8.22.33)
- Really think Calvert-Lewin would come good at Fulham under Marco's guidance. (NT) -- Al, Wednesday, January 01, 02:48:37pm (NoHost/193.17.86.250)
- Keeping Tete is a no brainer. Fantastic defender (NT) -- Jimmyhillbillies, Wednesday, January 01, 02:53:05pm (NoHost/90.205.117.104)
- Re: Free transfers Tete has proved he is our best right back. (NT) -- Honest, Wednesday, January 01, 05:22:45pm (host5-81-118-152.range5-81.btcentralplus.com/5.81.118.152)
- You must watch a different Tete.He has been outstanding. (NT) -- HemelRog, Thursday, January 02, 07:13:06am (5ec0f8a7.skybroadband.com/94.192.248.167)
- European football -- Jt20, Tuesday, December 31, 08:24:42pm (NoHost/104.28.85.102)
I have been reading some messages how Fulham have let recent matches slip up towards making a run at a european spot. My question and thoughts are would we really want a european spot next season and would we have a squad to be able to compete in the league and in a European spot. It’s been seen that clubs like ours could struggle with staying up in their domestic league while competing in a European spot. My opinion is we play for a domestic cup chance and stay up in the premier, then build a bigger squad for next season.
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- Surely people want that experience and joy again, clubs our size, more so now with FFP, don’t get Europe chance much, id want to grab it with both hands. Managers don’t want CFC size squads, we have a good size, have similar senior players as Man City or even Arsenal, 22/23, which is about where we are, there are areas for quality we can improve, but depth wise we are as good as we’ve either been. (NT) -- Henry1879, Tuesday, December 31, 09:32:13pm (croy-26-b2-v4wan-167127-cust1611.vm24.cable.virginm.net/82.38.22.76)
- We could easily be 3rd by now (NT) -- Waterboy, Wednesday, January 01, 12:27:29am (NoHost/84.65.35.84)
- Yeah cos we struggled in the league last time we reached a European final didn't we? (NT) -- If you know your history, Wednesday, January 01, 08:41:15am (NoHost/90.213.242.75)
- Finish high as we can - do well in the Cup - in other words win the thing - and you're in Europe anyway - also helps attract players. 3 coming up going back each year is controversial - but I rather like it. (NT) -- Rupert, Wednesday, January 01, 09:56:31am (NoHost/90.193.226.124)
- European football! Yes please! (NT) -- Alfred E Neuman, Wednesday, January 01, 10:08:57am (host165-120-39-134.range165-120.btcentralplus.com/165.120.39.134)
- With the extra Champions League place all but sure we might not get a better chance for years than this season of Europa League? We don’t tend to strike when the irons hot though? Hopefully the owner after scattergun approach realises he has an ambitious manager who can take the club further forward. You cant stand still in this league it’s how proactive we can be if we want continued success. (NT) -- Gary, Wednesday, January 01, 11:16:18am (host31-50-6-236.range31-50.btcentralplus.com/31.50.6.236)
- Of course we want Europe if possible. 8th will be good enough for Conference League (if Cup winners are in Top 7 and England gets 5th CL spot). And 5 of the last 10 seasons 58 points (double what we have after half a season) has been good enough for 8th. (NT) -- Magic Matt, Wednesday, January 01, 11:33:17am (97e211ab.skybroadband.com/151.226.17.171)
- As someone who was living in North America during our last European jaunt and so could only enjoy it from afar, I definitely want us to qualify for Europe (preferably from winning the FA Cup) (NT) -- Jungle J, Thursday, January 02, 09:49:04am (cpc124440-croy27-2-0-cust52.19-2.cable.virginm.net/77.101.86.53)
- Ferguson medical soon, should be done early -- DSTM, Tuesday, December 31, 04:36:36pm (NoHost/51.37.87.116)
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- They’ve already said they won’t loan him out. And he would be to much of an expensive gamble to buy (NT) -- Hg, Tuesday, December 31, 04:48:04pm (cpc141402-brnt4-2-0-cust971.4-2.cable.virginm.net/86.9.199.204)
- Cheeky bid for Vardy? Love him off the bench (NT) -- Al, Tuesday, December 31, 04:50:20pm (NoHost/193.17.86.250)
- IMHO no more of a gamble than Iwobi another who lost his way, now rejuvenated. Ferguson is good, young, sensible ie turned down approaches before from bigger clubs. Marco can work his magic! (NT) -- Andrew in Bath, Tuesday, December 31, 06:05:39pm (NoHost/90.220.13.200)
- Straight swap with Vinicius, seems fair (NT) -- SW, Tuesday, December 31, 06:15:55pm (cos2-04-b2-v4wan-171525-cust1783.vm10.cable.virginm.net/82.10.46.248)
- He’s out injured again… (NT) -- Injury prone, Tuesday, December 31, 10:25:14pm (575008b0.skybroadband.com/87.80.8.176)
- Harry Wilson -- eganonoa, Tuesday, December 31, 02:18:32pm (NoHost/172.56.75.0)
I've been a big sceptic of his. Saw him as so one-footed he was too easy to defend against. From the right wing defenders knew he was always going to cut inside and was ineffective down the line, so pushed him there. And all the falling over showed him as lightweight. Marco talked about him needing to develop another tool to give the other team something to think about and he just never did.
I'm completely transformed on him now. He's not falling over. Working really hard and showing strength. I don't think he's actually developed another tool, but shown he always had it in his fantastic movement. The key is Marco enabling him to play more centrally. In days gone by, he'd probably have been a leading striker in a little and large combo with two up top.
We need more goals from the middle three. ESR might provide that. But, I think I have more confidence in Wilson providing that. Reckon we should buy another wide forward and more firmly make Wilson one of the cadre of attacking midfielders, so our 6-man squad for the middle three positions is: Lukic/Berge, Andreas/Wilson, ESR/Cairney. And our wide position depth is Iwobi/Nelson on left, New Signing/Adama on right.
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- Re: Harry Wilson stats…..All clubs 96 goals & 76 assists…..Fulham stats 24 goals & 34 assists. Bottom line a goal involvement every 134 minutes at every club in his career. Impressive stuff and way better than any present FFC incumbent. Top bloke. (NT) -- Bad Boy, Tuesday, December 31, 03:10:07pm (NoHost/2.222.160.125)
- Re: Harry Wilson; Yes Wilson has done very well. Technically very good has pace and a great shot on him. With confidence is developing into a very good player. Testament to him and Marco. (NT) -- Honest, Tuesday, December 31, 03:15:49pm (host5-81-118-152.range5-81.btcentralplus.com/5.81.118.152)
- Suspect Silva told him to stop diving after every touch. Refs were always wise to it anyway. Transformed since. (NT) -- Innit, Tuesday, December 31, 04:06:53pm (NoHost/80.233.43.201)
- Cracking header that Mitro would have proud of. Spreads the ball well, still not sure he puts in a real shift defensively (NT) -- Al, Tuesday, December 31, 04:36:54pm (NoHost/193.17.86.250)
- Re: Harry Wilson so one footed, what!!!!! So what does that make TC then? At least he does use his right foot, not just to run on, unlike our Club captain. (NT) -- Fact, Tuesday, December 31, 07:40:08pm (host-80-46-12-4.as13285.net/80.46.12.4)
- Good player - he's always been a good player - how didn't Lampard get that Derby team up when he had him, Mount and a host of others by breaking FFP? (NT) -- Rupert, Wednesday, January 01, 09:59:45am (NoHost/90.193.226.124)
- Marco said it himself -- paul c, Tuesday, December 31, 01:36:00pm (NoHost/185.246.188.149)
He'll only bring in players that will *add* *improve*
So if we (as below is screaming for) want to improve CM
We need A player who not only A) scores goals, but also can B) add beef to the central area (i.e can tackle) and C) create
its like finding a ESR/Palhina/TC all in one. Difficult?
How about another Iwobi or another Berge ? Both cost £25M
is there another and if so do we have this kind of money?
for sure, no room for another Lukic, AP, ESR type.. Not with Josh King already here.
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- West ham away 700 tickets left -- Sam, Tuesday, December 31, 01:23:14pm (cpc159747-finc22-2-0-cust115.4-2.cable.virginm.net/81.108.184.116)
The worst ground in the country, Tuesday night game just after Christmas. This has a potential for a few empty seats in our end. New block has been put on sale with one small block not even on sale yet.
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- If I can get there, will always go to London away games... Can't be doing with the hassle of getting away afterwards, especially after a night game. On my 3 previous visits its been a nightmare, It makes getting away from Wembley (which everyone moans about) seem like a piece of cake (NT) -- Wolfie Smith, Tuesday, December 31, 04:35:24pm (94-30-83-200.xdsl.murphx.net/94.30.83.200)
- Went once never again. Herded like sheep at the end, took forever. (NT) -- Al, Tuesday, December 31, 04:39:16pm (NoHost/193.17.86.250)
- Went two years on the trot.Horrendous. (NT) -- Gluten For Punishment Rog, Tuesday, December 31, 05:04:10pm (5ec0f8a7.skybroadband.com/94.192.248.167)
- Walked to Bow Road after the game last season. Infinitely better than going back to Stratford. (NT) -- MF, Tuesday, December 31, 08:48:04pm (82-132-234-255.dab.02.net/82.132.234.255)
- Hardly a surprise -- old codger, Tuesday, December 31, 01:02:55pm (0543ba4b.skybroadband.com/5.67.186.75)
Happy New Year Wayne. The Roonster gets to spend more time with his family. When will these owners learn that ex-footballers rarely make good managers?
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- Our biggest need -- Ken, Tuesday, December 31, 11:38:26am (33C63E8e.skybroadband.com/51.198.62.142)
Rumours and thoughts a plenty on here on who we should be signing this window. I think it unlikely we'll do much business but if there was one player we should be looking to sign it must be a forward, this has been blindingly obvious since Mitro left. We speak kindly and rightly so of Jimenez and Muniz but I honestly don't think they are the long term answer, Jimenez age is against him although I would keep him and although many like him I don't rate Muniz at all, it's no good keeping on about his golden sell last season but he has been very poor this. I think there is a tendency to view him with rose tinted glasses. Let's be real we need to pay some money and get a decent striker in.
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- Halfway through the season and our striking duo are on pace for 18 PL goals between them, after contributing 16 last season. Not sure that's the glaring gap you're making out. We do need to plan for a time without Raul, so a young forward who can score from one of the wide forward areas makes the most sense to me (though even their our wide forwards are currently on pace for 24 goals, which is pretty good). I would really like to see more goals from central midfield. Hoping ESR provides that (NT) -- eganonoa, Tuesday, December 31, 11:47:13am (NoHost/172.56.79.111)
- Europe beckons ! I reckon we’ll nail 2 BIG signings (both in key offensive roles) A sporting chance to nick a 5th or 6th spot in Europe. I’m sure Marco is on that particular case…..a place in Europe would be a huge incentive for him to stay with us. He’s not without ambition so let’s hope our decision makers back him. We really couldn’t have wished for an “easier” next 10 fixtures. 20 pts from those games and it’s all hands to the pumps, and most certainly game on. (NT) -- Bad Boy, Tuesday, December 31, 12:05:57pm (NoHost/2.222.160.125)
- I’d like a young, proper box to box midfielder in this window. Pereiras position is one that I definitely feel we could upgrade on. Striker would be nice, just don’t see a top quality one being available, plus Raul and Muniz are scoring. (NT) -- Hg, Tuesday, December 31, 12:26:23pm (NoHost/31.94.34.148)
- I agree, someone who can get in the box and get on the huge amount of crosses we put in. CF is fine this season, maybe the summer, but not in Jan, unless Carlos leaves. I was hoping Berge could be let loose with lukic next to him, but doesn’t seem to be happening, a young energetic midfielder would be great, Sunderland have a couple worth looking at in Bellingham and Chris rigg, where’s the next Adam Wharton. (NT) -- Henry1879, Tuesday, December 31, 04:15:54pm (croy-26-b2-v4wan-167127-cust1611.vm24.cable.virginm.net/82.38.22.76)
- Gray to replace Nelson (NT) -- Stormy weather, Tuesday, December 31, 01:08:07pm (2e409fa8.skybroadband.com/46.64.159.168)
- Its got to be players who can find the net, CM areas have contributed 6 between them in 19 matches (cairney/berge/lukic/perreira/ESR) (NT) -- Waterboy, Tuesday, December 31, 01:13:39pm (NoHost/84.65.35.84)
- Watching delap last night against Chelsea he would be the perfect fit. Ran them ragged. If Ipswich go down he’s a must for me. Reminds me of a young mitro. Fantastic performance hope he’s quieter on Sunday (NT) -- Hodds Sutton, Tuesday, December 31, 01:23:56pm (croy-25-b2-v4wan-169464-cust2015.vm24.cable.virginm.net/92.236.39.224)
- Find the mitro star gazing way OTT, people talk about him like he was this elite player, he was a top 7/8 CF, but even then for 2/3 of a season. He’d improve us in some areas, corners/heading, but make us worse in others, penalties, pressing from the front. 11/3/14, mitro’s 3 prem seasons for us, compare that to where those 2 are this season (only 1 is ever on the pitch for us, need to think of them as a joint effort). Evanilson/thiago (bees) cost 40m, hardly made a big impact. (NT) -- Henry1879, Tuesday, December 31, 01:24:43pm (croy-26-b2-v4wan-167127-cust1611.vm24.cable.virginm.net/82.38.22.76)
- Hmm, As an accurate comparison look at his last season under Marco, doesn’t take injury or the savant that is Parker into account. 14 goals in 24 games .0069 goals per minute played. Muniz is on .0052 and Raul .0053. Not sure why we should be looking them as a joint effort vs one? (NT) -- FF, Tuesday, December 31, 02:17:20pm (82-132-215-92.dab.02.net/82.132.215.92)
- For mitro we look at mitigations & nuance, we don’t for the others. You’ve just picked the best ever (3rd) season, can I cherry pick muniz’s second half of last season, as that’s the only time he’s consistently started games. Where was mitro when he was 22 by the way? We are a better team now, he may improve us, but he was also ill disciplined, had an ego (the penalties) and threw his toys when the money showed up, we are more rounded without him at the club. (NT) -- Henry1879, Tuesday, December 31, 04:11:09pm (croy-26-b2-v4wan-167127-cust1611.vm24.cable.virginm.net/82.38.22.76)
- To me we are a much better side with the sulky Serb. Jiménez & Muniz put shifts in that Mitro never did. (NT) -- Al, Tuesday, December 31, 04:42:22pm (NoHost/193.17.86.250)
- Ooops, without!!!!!!!! (NT) -- Al, Tuesday, December 31, 04:43:04pm (NoHost/193.17.86.250)
- Yeh this is where I see it too, let’s not forget the missed penalties, the missing games due ill discipline, I feel we are more rounded now and it’s less of the mitro plus others show. There are areas we miss, set pieces springs to mind and some of his passing towards the end was really high level, but there are pro’s and con’s and either way I don’t think we’d suddenly become far better with him than with the current options. (NT) -- Henry1879, Tuesday, December 31, 04:47:54pm (croy-26-b2-v4wan-167127-cust1611.vm24.cable.virginm.net/82.38.22.76)
- Today's Guardian -- old codger, Tuesday, December 31, 09:35:33am (0543ba4b.skybroadband.com/5.67.186.75)
Rayan Cherki
Age 21 Nationality French Club Lyon
Lyon’s financial problems could force them to cash in on one of their prized assets, with the France Under-21s forward having been linked with Liverpool in recent weeks. A move to a club lower down the Premier League table seems more likely, however, with Crystal Palace, Everton and Fulham thought to be among his suitors.
Lyon’s Ernest Nuamah – the Ghana forward who was left in tears after his transfer to Craven Cottage in the summer collapsed on deadline day – is another potential target for English clubs.
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- Re: Today's Guardian (NT) -- Both of them have F us off already, Tuesday, December 31, 09:36:57am (host-217-8-22-33.as13285.net/217.8.22.33)
- Re: Today's Guardian (NT) -- Marco linked with Demarai Gray looks credible, Tuesday, December 31, 09:40:50am (host-217-8-22-33.as13285.net/217.8.22.33)
- Re: Today's Guardian (NT) -- Just Saying. Marco knows the player ( Credible), Tuesday, December 31, 09:58:25am (host-217-8-22-33.as13285.net/217.8.22.33)
- Re: Today's Guardian (NT) -- CFC last season Lukic last game fair play to him., Tuesday, December 31, 10:06:54am (host-217-8-22-33.as13285.net/217.8.22.33)
- Looks like we've stuck a stake through the heart of Evil that is the Filth! -- Long may it continue!!!, Monday, December 30, 10:36:15pm (unn-154-47-19-133.datapacket.com/154.47.19.133)
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- Sky Analysis -- AC, Monday, December 30, 08:14:23pm (2e40d84f.skybroadband.com/46.64.216.79)
I honestly cannot believe the analysis from the pundits on Sky in that the Brighton player who made no contact with the Brentford player after deliberately ‘pulling’ his elbow so he did not make contact with the Brentford player was deemed a clear red card offence by thee ‘experts’, whereas the studs showing lunge on Robinson by the Bournemouth player which made contact and could have seriously injured Robinson was agreed unanimously not to be a red card offence.
I don’t agree with Silva’s Cairney comparison because Cairney was nowhere near the ball and the tackle against the Spurs player was a red card offence but how many players have we had sent off over the years for studs showing lunges.?
The Bournemouth player should have without doubt been red carded.
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- A tackle or challenge that endangers the safety of an opponent or uses excessive force or brutality must be sanctioned as serious foul play. Any player who lunges at an opponent in challenging for the ball from the front, side or behind using one or both legs, with excessive force or endangers the safety of an opponent is guilty of serious foul play. Contact on foot only is typically considered reckless = Yellow card. High + Forceful contact on ankle or above is considered dangerous = Red card (NT) -- AC, Monday, December 30, 08:45:34pm (2e40d84f.skybroadband.com/46.64.216.79)
- The foul on Diop for the Bournemouth equaliser wasn’t even checked by VAR that tackle was a Red Card …therefore the goal should of been disallowed (NT) -- Ffc, Monday, December 30, 08:46:59pm (host86-170-118-217.range86-170.btcentralplus.com/86.170.118.217)
- Completely agree. It was similar to tc's, but nothing. (NT) -- Jim © (The Devon IP), Monday, December 30, 09:24:27pm (host86-156-235-143.range86-156.btcentralplus.com/86.156.235.143)
- It was checked and deemed that it was the momentum that caused the contact. TC was a deliberate action. (Was attempting to trip rather then stamp) I would have felt extremely annoyed if we had one disallowed for that. (NT) -- Me, Monday, December 30, 09:44:53pm (host51-14-232-84.range51-14.btcentralplus.com/51.14.232.84)
- Doesn't cut it as an argument for me. Loads of elbows that make contact are down to momentum. (NT) -- Jim © (The Devon IP), Monday, December 30, 10:21:36pm (host86-156-235-143.range86-156.btcentralplus.com/86.156.235.143)
- Read the definition of the rules as published by the premier league. Momentum does not come into it. (NT) -- AC, Tuesday, December 31, 01:23:27am (2e40d84f.skybroadband.com/46.64.216.79)
- Football isn’t a non contact sport. It can’t be played making sure you avoid the other player. Momentum isn’t mentioned but it didn’t meet any of the requirements that are mentioned as it was the momentum that caused the coming together. Momentum was what was used by the VAR as it was checked which was confirmed live at the time by the commentators. (NT) -- Me, Tuesday, December 31, 09:45:06am (host51-14-232-84.range51-14.btcentralplus.com/51.14.232.84)
- But here's the issue. You could argue that TC's tackle was pure momentum as Kulusevski cut across in front of him. There's no way, after watching TC for 10 years, that he meant that, just like the Bournemouth player couldn't avoid doing what he did, it's still a foul. (NT) -- Jim© The Devon IP, Tuesday, December 31, 10:24:18am (62-64-192-58.virtual1.co.uk/62.64.192.58)
- Stone bonker red.Entirely reckless following on from another iffy challenge. (NT) -- HemelRog, Tuesday, December 31, 01:39:43pm (5ec0f8a7.skybroadband.com/94.192.248.167)
- It's only Fulham, if that tackle was against one of the 'big' clubs, red card would have been out in a shot. TV presenters not worth the space they occupy. (NT) -- onwards, Tuesday, December 31, 10:51:46am (host86-153-178-227.range86-153.btcentralplus.com/86.153.178.227)
- breaking news -- Murray mint, Monday, December 30, 03:57:32pm (NurembergTor13.quetzalcoatl-relays.org/5.45.98.162)
Romano just breaks news that Willian is now a FA. Contract torn up.
Silva wanted him to sign on, but he wanted too much money nd went to Greece. Now will Silva go back in for Wills?
and Hogmanay celebrations have been called off in Scotland
London is expected to under heavy wind and Rain., yet Mayor Khan keeps his revenue from £10 ticket sales.
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- Getting concerned, bought some tickets before Christmas for the Watford game but haven't received any e-mails with links etc. This normal? -- Al, Monday, December 30, 02:26:53pm (NoHost/193.17.86.250)
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- Good game -- Honest, Monday, December 30, 01:05:52pm (host5-81-118-152.range5-81.btcentralplus.com/5.81.118.152)
I thought it was a good game we started sluggishly and they had the better of the first half, even so we went in ahead after a great header from Jiminez. We conceded a very poor equaliser early in the second half bust slowly regained control.Cairney was excellent when he came on and gave us much more composure on the ball. An excellent header from Super Harry gave us the lead with 10 minutes to go and we had further chances to seal the win. The only dissapointment was the failure by us just to see the game out.We should have just hit a few balls over the top for Traore and Muniz to run on to. The equaliser again was poor from us a terrible pass from Diop again just hit it long! It's been a great period from us with some excellent football. Considering the tough run of fixtures and the injuries we have done exceptionally well. Halfway stage 8th in the table and the only frustration would be as Marco has said had we been a little more clinical we probably would have been in the top 5! Happy New Year to all. Great season so far looking forward to achieving even more in the second half of the season
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- Opportunity knocking, are we answering? -- Jungle J, Monday, December 30, 11:39:54am (cpc124440-croy27-2-0-cust52.19-2.cable.virginm.net/77.101.86.53)
In part a reply to the post "why the angst?" below, and part a new thread...
For sure we have gone through what looks like a great run, 7 unbeaten against 6 good teams and Southampton - a famous away win at the Bridge, a point away at Anfield. We are having an influence on the title race which was something we weren't always doing in previous years. 11 points from 7 games is solid form (but just shy of Euro qualification pace). And we have had some tough injuries and suspensions. So that's all good stuff and not to be sniffed at *BUT*
1 - in that run we have dropped 4 points from late equalisers and failed to muster much of any threat against the worst team in the division. Converting even 4 of those 6 points would have us in fifth.
2 - at the start of December we were 10th but only 4 points behind the 3rd placed team. Now we are 8th (but could drop as low as 9th after Monday) but at least 6 and as many as 8 behind the 4th position. All around us teams have fared better over the same period (Bournemouth 15 from 7, Forest 18!! from 7, Newcastle 11 from 6) and the key reason is that they are *winning* games not drawing (we actually have the equal most draws in the PL)
This is one of the crazier PL seasons, there is so much vulnerability in the top sides and the usual aspirants (Man U, Spurs, Newcastle, Villa) - there is a real opportunity to make some noise and really compete for a European place, but we are not grabbing hold of it.
How can Fulham prevent this from becoming a "what might have been" season? For one, the FA Cup should be taken very seriously, because we are seeing that we are a match for basically anyone from week to week, so a long run is possible. Second, ahead is an arguably "softer" part of the schedule and we need to drastically improve our form against lower opposition (just 6 points from the bottom 5 so far). Third, we need to develop the ruthlessness of a top side, the ability to lock it down late on in a game - to think that just three lapses in concentration (WHU, Everton, Bournemouth) leave us sitting outside the top 5 is frustrating. There is plenty of scope for discussion about where the squad needs strengthening, but I reckon each of these three things starts with the coach (FWIW I think Silva does take the Cup seriously).
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- If you are taking into account last gasp goals against us you should include the last gasp wins v Chelsea and Brentford. This is a tough league and we are improving all the time. Just enjoy! (NT) -- Going, Monday, December 30, 11:44:18am (host86-191-39-143.range86-191.btcentralplus.com/86.191.39.143)
- Re: Opportunity knocking, are we answering? (NT) -- Mid Table team in a surprise season, Monday, December 30, 11:57:03am (NoHost/31.94.32.115)
- Happy with a top 10 finish plus an FA Cup winning final. (NT) -- Al, Monday, December 30, 12:19:41pm (NoHost/193.17.86.250)
- 8 of the next ten league fixtures are against teams below us. Level on pts with Villa and several points adrift of Forest. I doubt in our history at the season’s half way stage (in the top flight) we’ve ever been in such a rarified position. So 30 points up for grabs. Marco has got to show a bit more ambition in the closing stages…..WTF was that about, introducing King & ESR in the 92nd minute? Intent to win or just winding the clock down? (NT) -- Bad Boy, Monday, December 30, 01:14:04pm (NoHost/2.222.160.125)
- https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/uploads/wp/2023/02/16064459/phsae-1-plan-approvhed-nov-2022-pictre-page-001-2048x1448.jpg -- dated 2022, Monday, December 30, 11:23:09am (NoHost/185.227.68.78)
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anyone know when this gets built?
bbc training ground!
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- Approved , site demolished. Guess its just a matter of Raising the funds. Dont we get an 'unexpected £5m' from Fabs sale to Bustop? (NT) -- GG, Monday, December 30, 11:28:14am (NoHost/185.227.68.78)
- Been approved for ages and waiting for work to start. Site has been unused for years. (NT) -- AC, Monday, December 30, 12:57:42pm (2e40d84f.skybroadband.com/46.64.216.79)
- Re: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/uploads/wp/2023/02/16064459/phsae-1-plan-approvhed-nov-2022-pictre-page-001-2048x1448.jpg -- Monochrome, Monday, December 30, 02:50:17pm (cpc115930-epso6-2-0-cust683.6-3.cable.virginm.net/81.107.246.172)
- Leicester Tickets -- Mickey, Monday, December 30, 10:30:34am (82-132-231-164.dab.02.net/82.132.231.164)
on sale as of 10am today . NO Loyalty Points ( again what’s the point ?) and 2 per STH . Less than 1 hour by train , 3 pm on a Saturday and considering our recent form surely this should get snapped up quickly ?
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- Re: Leicester Tickets (and Spam still just) both on offer. Dont see the problem Micster As cannot see Non-Fulham going to either. And with both games only 2 weeks away its best to get these tickets 'sold' and 'into the hands of hands' So in these unpredictable times, the same fans can organise 'as cheap' travel plans as they can??????? (NT) -- Frank Larger, Monday, December 30, 10:56:30am (NoHost/185.246.188.149)
- Re: Leicester Tickets (NT) -- Point well made Frank., Monday, December 30, 11:24:27am (NoHost/31.94.64.5)
- Actually forgot they went on sale today so got mine quite late (2pm) and i reckon we'd sold about 2/3 maybe more of the allocation by then (NT) -- Same Old Story, Monday, December 30, 04:15:19pm (NoHost/84.69.53.52)
- FFC programmes from 70s-90s - anyone want? -- NYCk, Monday, December 30, 10:21:37am (82-69-13-228.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/82.69.13.228)
Finally having an enforced clearout and I have quite a few programmes from 1976 onwards. Anyone either want them or know where I can send them to?
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- GEEAT CROWD -- Red kev, Monday, December 30, 09:51:35am (NoHost/206.245.206.124)
27301. Our best of the season so far and biggest since the 70s. More to come as the Riverside gets completed.
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- Question for the ownership would be does the increasing crowd (one off ticket holders)actually lead to a better atmosphere (NT) -- Waterboy, Monday, December 30, 10:05:39am (NoHost/84.65.35.84)
- yet riverside still had hundreds of empty seats despite being ‘Sold Out’. What was going on there? (NT) -- bs, Monday, December 30, 10:16:51am (65.205-252-62.static.virginmediabusiness.co.uk/62.252.205.65)
- Re: GEEAT CROWD fans REjoice in them attendance numbers. Butt scobby doo they know its the 2nd lowest attendance in the PL. Fans that moan about ticketing pricing and why Players dont get pay rises should note this! FFC are in a false position ONLY due to the goodness of the heart of the Owners. By rights FFC shouldnt even be in the PL. Yet we sit 8th place and yet they moan? (NT) -- Digger Dave, Monday, December 30, 10:47:38am (NoHost/185.246.188.149)
- Seats can be empty for many reasons especially around the holiday period when people may be away or have family commitments. We missed the game because of fog at Gatwick. We generally miss one game a season because of weather but this year 5 times we have had cancelled flights because of either fog or storm force winds. We have paid for season tickets which would have been empty for those 5 games. (NT) -- Birdman, Monday, December 30, 11:38:50am (NoHost/91.190.160.53)
- The Riverside stand is not fully open. Around 1000 or maybe more still to come. Average gate is 26356, better than Palace Brentford and Bournemouth. (NT) -- red kev, Monday, December 30, 01:26:40pm (NoHost/206.245.206.124)
- Well done boys! -- John, Sunday, December 29, 09:34:56pm (c149-247.i06-6.onvol.net/77.71.149.247)
7 games unbeaten with some tough fixtures. I know we could have had more points, but proud of the team.
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- Apologies for the drivel on your pleasant post by the resident moron, John, but I totally agree. We’re playing great football and proving a challenge for and on equal footing with anyone in the league. It’s really a joy to watch them atm and the fact that they all seem like such nice people, manager, owners and coaching staff included, makes it all the more enjoyable! Long may it continue, who knows where we could finish at the end of the season and COYW! (NT) -- Just visiting, Sunday, December 29, 10:09:32pm (92.40.197.94.threembb.co.uk/92.40.197.94)
- Indeed - Spurs, Brighton, Arsenal, Liverpool, Southampton, Chelsea, Bournemouth - if someone said we'd come through that lot unbeaten - in the midst of an injury crisis - they'd have sent you to the funny farm. Fabulous effort by the players and staff. As proud as I've ever been. (NT) -- Rupert, Monday, December 30, 09:18:28am (NoHost/90.193.226.124)
- We are so nearly there, it's just having those goalscorers who could put teams away. We have shipped many late goals but it's mainly down to us failing to put those teams away earlier in the game and puts immense pressure on the defence. I think mainly of Utd/Ham/Everton/yesterday but we could easily have drawn at City also (NT) -- Waterboy, Monday, December 30, 10:13:49am (NoHost/84.65.35.84)
- Re: goalscorers I have often felt similar but then the stats are actually ok - 9 goals in 19 games from Jimenez/Muniz, 5 each from Iwobi and Wilson make for healthy contributions from midfield. Others chip in. Double all that over a full season and it's decent. Perhaps it's more just the case the high intensity style means players are knackered and games tend to become very open at the end, leading to goals for one team or the other. (NT) -- JamieR, Monday, December 30, 10:44:38am (82-132-212-204.dab.02.net/82.132.212.204)
- To continue - There have been occasions - Newcastle, Brighton - where we could have conceded an equaliser but instead scored a third. Yesterday was similar but it didn't fall for us. At Chelsea we could just as easily have lost that game 2-1 as won it - we were gambling. And I'm all for it! Maybe with Silva you just take the (significant) ups with the downs, hope for a bit of luck (I think we've been a bit unlucky overall) and enjoy the ride (NT) -- JamieR, Monday, December 30, 10:51:08am (82-132-212-204.dab.02.net/82.132.212.204)
- Makes sense. Supporters everywhere lament missed chances and if we watched their teams we'd see them doing so. But the 'xg' section of footystats.org records an average of 1.47 goals scored versus 1.48 expected. Second only to Brighton (1.50 v 1.50) we are the most level in those stakes. So not serious under-scorers like Everton, Palace and both (!) Manchesters. (Bigggest overperformers are Liverpool, Arsenal and Chelsea, but also Brentford and Wolves, so a mixed message there.) (NT) -- b+w g., Monday, December 30, 11:52:08am (NoHost/31.112.51.8)
- Re: Well done boys! (NT) -- Boscombe a real decent side physical & direct, Monday, December 30, 11:15:48am (NoHost/31.94.64.4)
- Deja vu -- View from the Riverside, Sunday, December 29, 06:34:51pm (static-84-9-58-207.vodafonexdsl.co.uk/84.9.58.207)
Thought we looked leggy in the first 20 mins, maybe a hangover from Boxing Day at the Dog Track. They are a good pressing team and street wise. At that point I would have taken a draw. I thought Wilson grew in the game, Lukic kept the passing ticking over and does a lot of hard work people don’t see. Perreira gave the ball away again and again. Thought he was poor. Adama does less and less when he comes on, .does not have a reverse gear and TC had a great cameo. But as Silva said in the post match interview we need to be more clinical and learn from our mistakes, mistakes we keep making.
It really was a game of Deja Vu. So much of today we have seen before. A failure to kill off teams. Andersen done again with a simple ball over the top, Diop gifting a late goal with loose passing – he has been our best defender but like Tosin, he needs to know his limitations. He needs to be more conservative with 4 mins left on the clock.
Again we concede just after half time. How many goals is that now from the 45-55 min? Then with Silva using his subs well – maybe not Adama (I would have had King on instead first) – we give up a another goal in the last five mins. How many points have we dropped in the closing stages of a game. As I said we don’t seem to be learning our lessons and appear destined to make the same mistakes again and again. I will settle for 2-2 but we should have killed them off with a third.
One Loss in the last ten – from a total of 30 points we have won 17 points and are unbeaten in 7. Overall great progress but just think where we would be if could eliminate the recurring errors. If we are serious about Europe then we need to beat Ispwich and like the Cherries it will be a scrap.
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- Re: Deja vu (NT) -- Andersen a worry is he fit ? Pace looks down., Sunday, December 29, 06:39:40pm (host-217-8-22-33.as13285.net/217.8.22.33)
- Give Bournemouth some credit they were very good. It was a great ball through for their first goal. (NT) -- Going, Sunday, December 29, 09:41:08pm (host86-191-39-143.range86-191.btcentralplus.com/86.191.39.143)
- How many points did we win after 80 minutes, too - Chelsea, Brentford etc.. (NT) -- ., Sunday, December 29, 09:57:37pm (0542a81b.skybroadband.com/5.66.168.27)
- We have stopped playing to Adama’s strengths! Surely we should try the odd ball over the top and let him run onto it and turn their defenders around. Instead we just play it to his feet. Why does Bernd persist in allowing Calvin to take a short goal kick simply passing it back to him whilst Raul is standing well into the opponents half, where he cannot be offside and very often will beat his single marker in the air and lay it off for a runner, such as Adama or Harry to run onto. (NT) -- Ted White, Monday, December 30, 02:12:01am (host86-179-202-248.range86-179.btcentralplus.com/86.179.202.248)
- Re: Deja vu, how many times haves we conceded points in the dying throws of a match? Answer 4. The common denominator is they all come from our left side. Another question, where was Robinson for their second equaliser, their player was completely unmarked for an easy finish. Also Leno committed to go to ground far too early and made the goal scorer's decision easier than it should have been. (NT) -- Fact, Monday, December 30, 08:34:53am (host-80-46-12-4.as13285.net/80.46.12.4)
- Re: Deja vu (NT) -- Boscombe well worth the point tbh., Monday, December 30, 11:22:51am (NoHost/31.94.64.4)
- Thought 1st half Robinson simply didn't have his mind on the game. Lots of lost possession, miss-controls. Josh King, what a 2 minute cameo!!!!! -- Al, Sunday, December 29, 06:17:55pm (NoHost/193.17.86.250)
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- A Decent Point -- Mickey, Sunday, December 29, 06:05:42pm (82-132-228-150.dab.02.net/82.132.228.150)
but I felt we looked jaded against a very hard-pressing and high intensity Team , who gave us virtually no time on the ball . Easy to see how they’ve beaten a few of the ‘big boys ‘ this season . I lost count of how many occasions I’d have taken the draw this afternoon with how the game was panning out : despite leading twice .They pressured us into mistakes , either directly or otherwise. We should now use the forthcoming week to rest up well and then look
ahead to a month where the fixtures appear ‘kinder’ to us . I thought Cairney was excellent and tenacious when he came on: I still think
he is best off the bench . But the decision will more likely be whether to revert back to a defensive 4 , with either /both our DCMs in front . Meanwhile Pereira , ESR or indeed both from
here on ? Their best levels have still to be reached ….
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- Jaded, that's exactly why I dont want European football. We would be back to fighting relegation. Much prefer a season competing in the prem. Pereira has reached his best level btw. (NT) -- CB the realistic., Sunday, December 29, 06:34:30pm (213-18-164-61.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.164.61)
- Perreira should be nowhere near the first eleven after this season so far. TC and Josh King were far superior in the game today. (NT) -- GA, Sunday, December 29, 06:36:00pm (ool-18b90125.dyn.optonline.net/24.185.1.37)
- I pretty much agree with your analysis. I thought us playing 3 or 5 at the back suited Bournemouth as they attempted to exploit any space with our full backs caught upfield. Also thought we lacked an orchestrator and pace, so it was no surprise when we brought on Cairney and Traore. We looked so much better with TC on the pitch. Shame about the silly Diop mistake, otherwise 3 points. (NT) -- Juana Aorta, Sunday, December 29, 10:32:17pm (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
- A shame but on 30 mins I'd have taken a draw -- JamieR, Sunday, December 29, 05:43:27pm (82-132-214-81.dab.02.net/82.132.214.81)
Bournemouth were good, all over us in the first half. We'd soaked it up admirably but it wasn't going to last, seemed like Silva took the gamble instead to open the game up, make it a 'basketball match' again and it nearly worked. Cairney clearly a massive improvement on the struggling Pereira.
The one passage of play I think we should regret is at 2-1, it was so open and we had loads of opportunities, all wasted. Why take off Jimenez? He was doing great - the swap between him and Muniz is so predictable, does it really need to happen every single game, whichever one starts? We've got a week break after today.
A shame about the Diop error. He has been great the last few weeks. Arguably Andersen equally at fault for the first goal but he won't get the same flack
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- So why the angst? -- Andrew in Bath, Sunday, December 29, 05:41:33pm (NoHost/90.220.13.200)
A 7 match unbeaten run, including draws against Spurs, Arsenal & Liverpool, plus 3 points against Chelsea. Unbeaten thru out December, a statistic I’d never have predicted. And Bournemouth eviscerated ManU, thus a form team, and hence I saw a draw as inevitable. Heading for a top ten finish, Silva is very aware of the weaknesses, will address them, and our highest ever finish in this league is entirely probable. Oh! And the football played is sublime.
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- Two points dropped -- Baz, Sunday, December 29, 05:21:26pm (86-42-23-145-dynamic.agg3.dbc.dbc-mgr.eircom.net/86.42.23.145)
Sorry....given away
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- Re: Two points dropped NO DOubting! 3 chances to extend the lead and all missed. Muniz nowhere to be seen. Its becoming more and more obvious that alan is right about Muniz. He scores Goals againt the top teams, but Muniz doesnt show up vs Southamton, Preston and now again making the point about his 'level entry' 'EFL' level' contract! Muniz doesnt bother with 'lesser teams' but has shown he is a TOP level scorer and will attract CL and title challenging sides (NT) -- Wilson for CF, Sunday, December 29, 05:27:35pm (NoHost/45.95.169.226)
- Good side cherries inform side. A point a piece (NT) -- Showery weather, Sunday, December 29, 05:27:42pm (2e409fa8.skybroadband.com/46.64.159.168)
- IMHO fair result, they were far better 1st half. Very dangerous team. Not sure why Andersen couldn't have tried to clear off the line. (NT) -- Al, Sunday, December 29, 05:28:57pm (NoHost/193.17.86.250)
- We set up for a draw and got a draw. Job done in that respects. (NT) -- Hg, Sunday, December 29, 05:42:48pm (88-97-36-164.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/88.97.36.164)
- Why? Do you think we have a divine right to win? Never disrespect the opposition, none of them are easy to beat. (NT) -- .., Sunday, December 29, 08:17:50pm (host86-157-65-230.range86-157.btcentralplus.com/86.157.65.230)
- Yes but would have taken a point before the game. Bournemouth are above Fulham in the league for a reason (NT) -- JoeT, Monday, December 30, 12:41:47am (cpc96906-walt25-2-0-cust362.13-2.cable.virginm.net/82.13.233.107)
- On a roll. -- Hodds, Sunday, December 29, 05:03:29pm (croy-25-b2-v4wan-169464-cust2015.vm24.cable.virginm.net/92.236.39.224)
Why do you take Wilson off. F diop always a mistake waiting. We were in control.
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- Can't Defend a Lead -- Costa Blanca White, Sunday, December 29, 05:01:34pm (NoHost/185.210.18.175)
Fulhamish!
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- Silva must be so frustrated.. -- ,, Sunday, December 29, 04:59:49pm (NoHost/178.62.124.158)
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- Cairney a game changer! -- CB, Sunday, December 29, 04:44:09pm (213-18-164-61.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.164.61)
Must start in future. Silva must finish this Pereira love in.
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- Shhhhh -- Costa Blanca White, Sunday, December 29, 04:40:21pm (NoHost/185.210.18.175)
2-1 Wilson
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- Bloody sleepwalking again! -- ,, Sunday, December 29, 04:13:28pm (NoHost/178.62.124.158)
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protect what we have is the thing that matters now -- GG, Sunday, December 29, 04:08:08pm (algrothendieck.nos-oignons.net/80.67.172.162)
give it 15 mins
but if on 60 mins comes and still leading
protect JEDIS yellow card situation < sub him off
bassey to LB
go back to the usual 4 at the back formation
get ESR, Muniz and Adama and TC on with that all in mind
try to win, but protect the legs, fitness and capt JEdis suspension and maybe Lukic whose already on 7 yellows
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- 37 mins in and still waiting for AP to actually complete pass to a Fulham player... -- GA, Sunday, December 29, 03:39:42pm (ool-18b90125.dyn.optonline.net/24.185.1.37)
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- More barnstorming runs from Bassey! -- eganonoa, Sunday, December 29, 02:35:30pm (NoHost/172.59.69.236)
Excited to see whether we can repeat that crazy Bassey + Robinson left-wing at times today. Loved the "Roberto Carlos" comparison made on the club stream va Chelsea about Bassey's run.
Also wondering whether this system gets Wilson more central and better able to score if Castagne plays like he did 2nd half on Boxing Day
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- welcome to Fulham - DONE DEAL -- tk at it again, Sunday, December 29, 01:00:50pm (this-is-a-tor-node---42.artikel5ev.de/188.68.36.28)
Demarai Gray IN
primarily left winger, other postions right wing and striker
Comparison A cheaper 'Marcus Rashford'
Vinny OUT
VERDICT : Always liked him as a attacker . Question is, does he do enough defending, helping out in transition.
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- I know it's only The Sun but it wouldn't actually be a bad move for us especially with Nelson injured, so it's a yes from me. -- Gary Elkins Shin Pad, Sunday, December 29, 01:16:12pm (NoHost/94.2.191.100)
- Ref today has overseen half our defeats this season! (NT) -- Waterboy, Sunday, December 29, 01:32:56pm (NoHost/85.255.234.119)
- This is the nonce IP, take everything troll says with a pinch of something. (NT) -- Nonce, Sunday, December 29, 01:56:37pm (82-132-235-196.dab.02.net/82.132.235.196)
- I hope this is fake. Bloke has zero end product, is nearly 29 and has been playing non competitive football for two years. Not sure why he would even be on our radar. (NT) -- Hg, Sunday, December 29, 02:15:42pm (NoHost/31.94.30.7)
- Not criticising -- alanos, Sunday, December 29, 11:37:18am (82-132-212-128.dab.02.net/82.132.212.128)
Bringing in Anderson , Smith -Rowe and Berge although they cost getting on for £90 m and maybe £15m a year in wages . Yet they aren’t even necessarily first choice starters .
So could the club not afford to up the wages of Muniz from kids level to around the top levels paid at Fulham to get him to renew his contract for a couple more years at least . Even making him out highest paid player would have been the best thing we could have done to get him committed to being here at least to mid career . Why not ? Ask Ali
Instead we look likely to lose him for a pittance and be left looking for a far worse aging player instead . What’s the point of that ? Ask Teflon
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- Not usually one to worry about problems we don’t have…. -- ASPT, Saturday, December 28, 11:41:27pm (NoHost/1.145.122.216)
However, I’m sure we know that losing Silva, a very ambitious man, could be a disaster. Replacing him would be very hard indeed.
One managerial spot I can see opening up soon is at Spurs. They did not recruit sufficiently pre-season and combine that with Ange’s stubborn approach and it’s not hard to see why it has not gone well.
It is a poisoned chalice of a role. That’s a club ran poorly from top to bottom. You’d have to be PERFECT to succeed in that environment, just like Utd.
For proof of this, see how Nuno went there compared to how he went at Wolves and now Forest. Which brings me to my point. I hope Nuno and Silva are mates. That way he’ll hear a warts-and-all breakdown of what it’s like being their boss. That would help us IMO. They can ruin Irola instead.
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- Don't listen to Jamie O'Hara. He's paid to talk possibilities rather than facts. (NT) -- Juana Aorta, Sunday, December 29, 12:36:15am (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
- Spurs are going to be taken over by Stavley and her consortium soon it will unfortunately be a game changer for them (NT) -- Button, Sunday, December 29, 02:44:15am (nmal-23-b2-v4wan-169190-cust1261.vm24.cable.virginm.net/80.5.116.238)
- Your take on Spurs makes sense, but so does the notion that they have serially underachieved their support base and stadium, making it potentially not that hard to please the fans. After all, Poch was admired for a good while, winning no trophies. Would prefer Marco not to see it like that of course. (NT) -- b+w g., Sunday, December 29, 07:44:22am (68.52.159.143.dyn.plus.net/143.159.52.68)
- There’s a few someone like spurs would possibly look at, silva, Iraola and Frank spring to mind, but there’s a whole pool of Iraola/hurtzler type young managers across the continent so would still be an outside chance silva would be the one. The key is for management to accept it may happen, sure fight for him, but if it does then have options in place and a clear strategy, because he won’t be here forever. (NT) -- Henry1879, Sunday, December 29, 08:24:00am (NoHost/92.207.188.23)
- All true, but today's opposing managers would unfortunately make better sense for Spurs right now, leaving Bournemouth or us to find the next young tyro from the continent. It would also reprise Spurs' thinking on Nuno, too hastily cast off as is now evident and the fanbase appreciate. So Silva/Iraola would have more buy-in than Nuno had. Would not expect Spurs to play out till the summer, but nor for FFC to be expecting Marco to be further than 18 months from departure by now. (NT) -- b+w g., Sunday, December 29, 09:05:02am (68.52.159.143.dyn.plus.net/143.159.52.68)
- Disagree about Nuno for spurs, was never the fit, like Roy @ liv, moyes at Utd the sit back, low possession, counter attack style doesn’t suit a top 6 club. Spurs wouldn’t be able to do what forest do as well as most teams will go to them and sit back, we did it masterfully v forest, they want to sit back and let you make the running. He’s well suited to a mid/lower prem team, however silva & Iraola play front foot football and can play a number of ways so agree they would be a better fit. (NT) -- Henry1879, Sunday, December 29, 10:26:44am (croy-26-b2-v4wan-167127-cust1611.vm24.cable.virginm.net/82.38.22.76)
- Spurs are in the Semi Final of the League Cup, still in the Europa League, still in the FA Cup, and are only 6 points off 5th place . I would guess the owners will review the situation at the end of the season. Plus Silva is doing well with a squad he has largely assembled or improved. I think he will want to see things through to the end of the season at least. (NT) -- Juana Aorta, Sunday, December 29, 12:14:30pm (ip-185-104-136-57.ptr.icomera.net/185.104.136.57)
- Mind Over Matter -- Eerwah, Saturday, December 28, 11:05:29pm (NoHost/1.146.81.40)
Fitness, tactics, conditions and all that is required to prepare for any level of football match, can be discarded unless the individual state of mind is tuned to perform. With a squad of highly paid individuals having personal matters and business related activities which may impact the player’s state of mind, managing the situation is never likely to produce predetermined outcomes. Much of the actual actions are repetitive and hardly interesting but here we are, greatly looking forward to the next event where we hope to enjoy actions of specific individuals in a collective effort. Have Manchester City players already conceded the outcome of the club’s situation?.
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- Cherry on top? -- ASPT, Saturday, December 28, 07:09:37pm (114-129-187-208.ip4.superloop.au/114.129.187.208)
On paper, the Bournemouth game could be a cracker. They play suicide football at times, like a more intelligent Spurs. Iraola is more rigid than Silva and will stick to the script and try to pin us in. They will leave space behind them. This is the sort of game we have thrived in all season.
The midfield battle will be key, and probably immense. They use any combination of Cook/Christie/Tyler Adams. I’m a big fan of Semenyo and (when they play him) Tavenair. Kluivert and Evanilson seem to have found form.
It will be tough, they’re a good side, I can just see a cracker. Winner either way with the odd goal in 5, something like that. Let’s hope it’s not all ‘after the Lord Mayor’s show’
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- Re: Cherry on top? Agree should be a great game. I hope go at them and get another great win. (NT) -- Honest, Saturday, December 28, 07:16:08pm (host5-81-118-152.range5-81.btcentralplus.com/5.81.118.152)
- Good to see that Kluivert is suspended and Tavernier is injured plus a few others (NT) -- SW, Saturday, December 28, 07:20:35pm (cos2-04-b2-v4wan-171525-cust1783.vm10.cable.virginm.net/82.10.46.248)
- They always try and play with high energy and should come at us, which should suit us, would be happy to take a BHA approach and give up possession and territory to hit on the counter, even if we are at home. They’ve got loads of pace and athleticism, like us, in fact a similar team to us in many ways. Like you, I fear it’s bit after lords mayor show and that CFC took a lot out of us. (NT) -- Henry1879, Saturday, December 28, 08:19:52pm (croy-26-b2-v4wan-167127-cust1611.vm24.cable.virginm.net/82.38.22.76)
- Player of the match! -- Honest, Saturday, December 28, 05:09:22pm (host5-81-118-152.range5-81.btcentralplus.com/5.81.118.152)
Leno did his job and was excellent but they had very little shots on target. Player of the match for me was between. Iwobi, Robinson, Lukic, and Bassey. My choice would have been Iwobi.
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- Muniz Song -- SDW, Saturday, December 28, 02:20:54pm (host-78-144-132-25.as13285.net/78.144.132.25)
🎶We had to let our Mitro go MUNIZ MUNIZ
We had to let our Mitro go MUNIZ MUNIZ
We had to let our Mitro go
but now we’ve got our Rodrigo
Rodrigo Muniz Fulham’s number nine
Na na na na na na na na MUNIZ MUNIZ
Na na na na na na na na MUNIZ MUNIZ🎶
And repeat
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- HaHa -- HemelRog, Saturday, December 28, 02:19:02pm (5ec0f8a7.skybroadband.com/94.192.248.167)
Chelsea London first.Nope you are The Dog Track Squatters we are Londons first.
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- The quiet man -- Cloudy weather, Saturday, December 28, 12:44:43pm (2e409fa8.skybroadband.com/46.64.159.168)
Top heads up to Castagne. Had a cracking game and mentioned in dispatches on motd and prime.
Massive part in both goals as well.
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- shows how much we fans 'know' -- Long Termer, Saturday, December 28, 11:59:17am (host86-179-114-84.range86-179.btcentralplus.com/86.179.114.84)
About a month ago ....
LENO
His performances have dropped, Seems to be slow going down,
Too easily beaten from distance
hmmm!
MUNIZ
Woeful, didn't do anything, can't find space, seems to just mark the centre back. Should have kept Stansfield instead
hmmmm!
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- We're fans. Every player's as good or as bad as his last performance. Nothing said on here should be taken seriously. (NT) -- The Man With No Name, Saturday, December 28, 12:13:50pm (55.5.125.91.dyn.plus.net/91.125.5.55)
- All those things can be true while also not preventing good performances. Do you think the coaching staff don't work on the individual players to improve them, or the scouting staff don't actively seek out new players to address weaknesses? There's nothing I dislike more than the smug "everything is perfect you should all just be quiet, while posting on a forum" posts when we win. What's the point? Enjoy the win and let others do so also thanks. (NT) -- eganonoa, Saturday, December 28, 12:27:42pm (pool-108-18-149-21.washdc.fios.verizon.net/108.18.149.21)
- Absolutely pointless post, sound like a 12 year old. As said above, many of those thing have been true, doesn't mean things don't change (NT) -- SW, Saturday, December 28, 12:52:02pm (cos2-04-b2-v4wan-171525-cust1783.vm10.cable.virginm.net/82.10.46.248)
- Daft post. As above. We all knew he had a game like that in him. He just hasn't been his usual form this season, He had let in easier shots than thsoe he saved. (NT) -- CB, Saturday, December 28, 12:55:47pm (213-18-164-61.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.164.61)
- Re: shows how much we fans 'know' It's a good post you cannot judge players game by game. It's about consistency and overall performance. No Manager thinks knee Jersey. Players lose confidence fitness etc. Would prefer more perspective and intelligent comments. (NT) -- Honest, Saturday, December 28, 05:04:28pm (host5-81-118-152.range5-81.btcentralplus.com/5.81.118.152)
- Leno's performance was fantastic but that shot from Fernandez was pretty much the first time this season I can remember a shot from distance heading into/near the corner which he got his hand to. It was a great save, but he hasn't been making them (saves of that type) of late. A welcome return to form! Which isn't to detract from his overall contribution in the last 30 months (NT) -- JamieR, Saturday, December 28, 06:40:06pm (133.190.6.51.dyn.plus.net/51.6.190.133)
- Is it right Leno was voted Player of the Match. -- Rupert, Saturday, December 28, 09:25:08am (NoHost/90.193.226.124)
I know it's Christmas/New Year and staff having time off etc but its poor the result hasn't been put up and this one was going to be such a close call be interesting to see what happened - shared by all 15 would have been fitting.
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- Has to be Leno imo. Keepers always overlooked by goalscorers and outfield players. His saves made the difference and basically the result. (NT) -- CB, Saturday, December 28, 09:37:28am (213-18-164-61.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.164.61)
- Disappointed with the Chelsea goal but didn't he make up later! (NT) -- Al, Saturday, December 28, 10:25:14am (NoHost/193.17.86.250)
- Nothing he could do about the Chelsea goal, was top draw finish, through diops legs so couldn’t move until after it got past diop and went right in thr corner, was an elite finish, took it so early as well. (NT) -- Henry1879, Saturday, December 28, 11:39:03am (webdefence-pool-01.cluster-lonb.forcepoint.net/85.115.53.201)
- Chelsea's goal was sublime. World class created and finsh. (NT) -- CB, Saturday, December 28, 12:41:59pm (213-18-164-61.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.164.61)
- On the 12th day of Christmas…. -- ASPT, Saturday, December 28, 03:21:29am (NoHost/1.145.119.127)
Lord Silva gave to me
5 premiershiiiiiiiip poiiiints
4 great goals
3 centre backs
2 all draws
And we f###ed all over Chelseaaaaaa
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- Three Centre Backs -- Eerwah, Saturday, December 28, 12:29:09am (NoHost/1.146.124.32)
Superb second half dog track performance. Great Christmas present, thank you Fulham. Formation tweaking turned out to be top drawer for their early goal happened by weaving through defensive mids and three central defender set up.
So near yet still far away from a current season Europe spot due to dropping points v lesser opposition, has been a long term club trait.
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- 442 Video on Antonee: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HL62wlEmEmM -- Barry@ENF, Friday, December 27, 11:02:05pm (cpc95104-newt39-2-0-cust313.19-3.cable.virginm.net/77.101.245.58)
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- Tosin -- I was at the Bridge 1979., Friday, December 27, 07:30:00pm (host-217-8-22-33.as13285.net/217.8.22.33)
Not our fans greatest hour.The Tosin stuff a little over the top
in my opinion
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- Walked out on a free and joined our local rival. Pretty much the worst thing a player can do to a club. (NT) -- Hg, Friday, December 27, 07:58:02pm (cpc141402-brnt4-2-0-cust971.4-2.cable.virginm.net/86.9.199.204)
- Very unfair. I thought it was his best performance ever for us (NT) -- ASPT, Friday, December 27, 09:01:59pm (114-129-187-208.ip4.superloop.au/114.129.187.208)
- Deserved everything he got……always though he was too good for us (NT) -- Ffc, Friday, December 27, 10:09:46pm (host86-170-118-217.range86-170.btcentralplus.com/86.170.118.217)
- Arrogant air about him, even ream called him out on it. Saw him doing their huddle talk really pumped up. Glad he has a zat knight moment every game now. (NT) -- Jim © (The Devon IP), Friday, December 27, 10:12:33pm (host86-156-235-143.range86-156.btcentralplus.com/86.156.235.143)
- Tosin got what he deserved. He is arrogant, and entitled and thinks he is better than Fulham. So glad his lost to the club he thought he was better than. (NT) -- RR, Saturday, December 28, 02:44:39am (NoHost/104.220.143.92)
- Re: Tosin (NT) -- There’s a line our fans overstep it., Saturday, December 28, 02:47:15am (host-217-8-22-33.as13285.net/217.8.22.33)
- It reminded me of ageing John T**** at Wembley who wilted under the hostility and hot sun. Tosin is a bang average premier league centre half. Running down your contract was shameful. It's fitting Sess - who did the opposite - was on when Tosin switched off. (NT) -- Rupert, Saturday, December 28, 08:46:52am (NoHost/90.193.226.124)
- Wouldn't like it to be routine for all former players, but it isn't. (Cf Bobby as recently as August). Without going by guesses or rumours, there's the pic of him pointing to the blue badge captioned, "if you can't beat them, join them." (NT) -- b+w g., Saturday, December 28, 08:52:14am (68.52.159.143.dyn.plus.net/143.159.52.68)
- Classic Tosin game for me, played well but just turned off a couple of times (thankfully) (NT) -- Al, Saturday, December 28, 10:27:34am (NoHost/193.17.86.250)
- He kept waving to players to move up or push forward. Everyone ignored him (NT) -- bs, Saturday, December 28, 11:59:20am (82-132-215-123.dab.02.net/82.132.215.123)
- Re: Tosin (NT) -- Why slag him off if he’s no good., Saturday, December 28, 03:03:19pm (host-217-8-22-33.as13285.net/217.8.22.33)
- It’s crazy to think that their new owners have spent over a billion ££s on new players with around £150M on CBs yet they’re currently playing Tosin who wouldn’t even get into Fulhams team at the moment. Their squad must be so threadbare as they had 2 U19s and 2 keepers on the bench. Without Cole they wouldn’t make the top 4. (NT) -- smartypants, Saturday, December 28, 09:27:12pm (45.51.208.46.dyn.plus.net/46.208.51.45)
- That song kept our supporters vocal and raised the tempo of our vocal support. This spurred the team on to get that result. (NT) -- Edward Winston Malone, Sunday, December 29, 12:05:32am (cpc115214-nmal23-2-0-cust962.19-2.cable.virginm.net/81.109.79.195)
- Poor old Manchester United. -- Juana Aorta, Friday, December 27, 07:05:39pm (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
We are currently 6 points ahed of them. Has that ever been the case before? Their next 3 games are home against in form Newcastle, away to Liverpool, away to Arsenal. I am wondering what the points comparrison will be by the time we play them at home on January the 26th? The next 3 games will be a test for Amorim. I have little love for the media darlings of Manchester. I'm hoping for a 10 point advantage.
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- If we cash in on Robinson’s current value of £40+ mill, I wouldn’t be surprised to see Bassey shifted to left back. That run and shot makes me think there’s a lot more to his game than at first thought. -- Straw Clutchers Anonymous, Friday, December 27, 06:39:17pm (NoHost/90.196.12.62)
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- Are you mad??! £40 million should not be enough to buy his right foot!! Double it and one can start to possibly negotiate from there but I am fed up with us getting ripped off in the transfer market. Brighton for example always seem to get the maximum possible from their transfers so as Robinson is the best left back in the country and he is still well in contract, we should be looking at at least £100 million (NT) -- The Doc, Friday, December 27, 06:53:10pm (NoHost/90.193.226.124)
- I doubt any amount of money would compensate for the catastrophic loss of Robinson mid season. As for Bassey, is he fast enough or athletic enough to play left wing back? (NT) -- Juana Aorta, Friday, December 27, 07:09:38pm (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
- You have to factor in prize money which I believe is now over £3m per place . An extra seven or eight points could make the difference between finishing 6th or 15th , which would represent about £30m in prize money as well as European football next year (NT) -- alanos, Friday, December 27, 08:51:23pm (NoHost/31.94.64.40)
- No, just no. Bassey and diop are forming a formidable partnership, so breaking that up, as well as losing Jedi, could be disastrous for us (NT) -- Hg, Friday, December 27, 09:36:58pm (cpc141402-brnt4-2-0-cust971.4-2.cable.virginm.net/86.9.199.204)
- NFR Chelsea's spending -- Red Hen (He/Him) (😷💉🏳🌈✊🏿🌍), Friday, December 27, 05:53:13pm (NoHost/62.197.151.19)
After Fulham’s historic and well-earned victory at Stamford Bridge yesterday, I couldn’t help but think: how can Chelsea possibly justify spending over a *billion pounds* in the last three seasons for… *this*? All that money, and they still couldn’t beat a team with a fraction of their spend.
This level of financial mismanagement is alarming, and if there’s one thing we’ve learned it’s that only proper government oversight can tackle such inefficiency. It’s time for some regulation to control reckless spending in football. If governments can manage budgets for things like infrastructure, healthcare, and energy, why shouldn’t they take the reins of Chelsea’s transfer strategy?
Wasteful spending on this scale not only makes football unsustainable but also sets a terrible example for society. We need to see some leadership here – maybe even a Ministry of Football Finance – to ensure such staggering sums are used responsibly in the future.
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- Well really don't get on then? -- Cloudy weather, Friday, December 27, 02:30:06pm (2e409fa8.skybroadband.com/46.64.159.168)
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- The Transfer Window -- MWKent, Friday, December 27, 01:01:08pm (host-80-46-12-4.as13285.net/80.46.12.4)
The T/W will be on us soon, with players on the move to and from the clubs. Questions, has Fulham identified any replacement players? and when will we do any business,early or late in January?
Many of you are expecting Robinson to leave the Club along with Pereira. Hopefully we can get shot of Vinicius as well. I would like to get Liam Delap, tongue in cheek, but he's the type of player(in the Mitro mold) we need. I would go and get Hamer from Shef.Utd., a better MF than our Brazilian.
I wonder if Marco has given TK his shopping list?
P.S. Is Talbot & Son still at the Club, doing the scouting?
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- Hamer is decent but we have Berge similar type and we need to be looking at bigger quality than him! Pereira is technically good but just off elite teams radar hence at Fulham! If we were to spend big next month and are taking possibility of European football seriously then it needs to be an centre forward. (NT) -- Gary, Friday, December 27, 01:20:11pm (host31-50-6-236.range31-50.btcentralplus.com/31.50.6.236)
- No way would we let Robinson go in this next window . Pereira though -much as I’d like him to stay-may be different . I suppose with ESR we have our No 10 , but they both offer contrasting advantages . Plus let’s not forget not only Berge but our ‘new found ‘ CM set -up after yesterday . So for me other than an add forward for more options /competition, I don’t see any further additions . (NT) -- Mickey, Friday, December 27, 01:23:00pm (host86-149-156-201.range86-149.btcentralplus.com/86.149.156.201)
- We won't lose anyone we don't want to lose and we will only sign for a position we need. Transfer fees tend to be inflated during the winter window so despite the noise in certain media outlets and on 'click bait' Liverpool football sites we won't sell Robinson or Perreira until at least the summer. (NT) -- Juana Aorta, Friday, December 27, 01:47:41pm (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
- I've just been reading that Mitrovic could be available and is attracting interest from Europe, This squad with Mitro would be something else. -- Gary Elkins Shin Pad, Friday, December 27, 02:02:18pm (NoHost/94.2.191.100)
- Good idea in theory, but I think he left under so much of a cloud , with such bad feelings all around, it would be impossible. (NT) -- GTS, Friday, December 27, 02:10:28pm (331315a5.skybroadband.com/51.19.21.165)
- Really don’t think mitro improves the team like people think, for all his attributes he doesn’t move as well or work as hard as either of our current CFs and their minutes to goals ratio is similar to when he had his very best season. Add in how he left, obscene money he’s on and which clearly motivates him plus he’d have lost a lot of sharpness, wouldn’t touch him with a barge pole. (NT) -- Henry1879, Friday, December 27, 02:48:29pm (croy-26-b2-v4wan-167127-cust1611.vm24.cable.virginm.net/82.38.22.76)
- I suspect only Vini goes and we sign a loan replacement. My ideal, as I'm happy enough with Raul and Muniz, is someone who can score from the wide areas as well as play upfront (a Rashford type). Think that is particularly necessary with the long injury to Nelson (NT) -- eganonoa, Friday, December 27, 03:01:13pm (pool-108-18-149-21.washdc.fios.verizon.net/108.18.149.21)
- Pereira wants out, so expect him and Vini to go. Douglas Luiz and Igor Jesus to come in for an instant upgrade. (NT) -- Straw Clutchers Anonymous, Friday, December 27, 04:02:54pm (NoHost/90.196.12.62)
- Other than Andersen, yesterday's team was from last season's squad although Sessegnon wasn't with us last season but only came on at the end for 5 mins (NT) -- White Eagle, Friday, December 27, 07:31:19pm (host109-145-198-101.range109-145.btcentralplus.com/109.145.198.101)
- Pereira, thought we looked better after he was subbed. Would have preferred Josh King over Cairney but he did just enough. -- Al, Friday, December 27, 11:57:18am (NoHost/193.17.86.250)
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- Good chance that over 65 % ? Weren't born when we won '79. -- Old geezers rule ., Friday, December 27, 09:15:31am (2e409fa8.skybroadband.com/46.64.159.168)
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- Even less chance 1964 -‐----- 1-2 goals "Pat" O Connell and Steve Earle (NT) -- Old geezers rule, Friday, December 27, 09:41:11am (2e409fa8.skybroadband.com/46.64.159.168)
- Maybe 65% of Fulhams current support base, but more likely 95% of tiff contributors were born before 1979 and 90% were born before 1964. The internet has never before known such a concentration of miserable old losers. (NT) -- miserable old loser no.79, Friday, December 27, 11:11:34am (NoHost/185.108.105.163)
- Pat O'Connell scoring at the ground just a few hundred yards from the secondary school he attended. Mullers almost lost it for us with a wayward back pass Macedo just got to. The 2 oct.'79 2nd-half goals are etched on my memory: a John Beck shot then a late Gordon Davies near-post header from a right-wing corner, both at the same end as yesterdays. Memories, memories... (NT) -- garence, Friday, December 27, 12:34:06pm (82-71-33-251.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/82.71.33.251)
- I was there in 1964 with my dad. He got a bit nervous near the end as we were surrounded by Chelseasupporters.We were in the old 2 storey stand. I still have the programme. That was the first and last time I have been to Stamford Bridge! (NT) -- GlennW, Friday, December 27, 12:47:46pm (host86-190-90-116.range86-190.btcentralplus.com/86.190.90.116)
- I was there in 79 as well....also a game etched in my memory....wish I had of been there yesterday! (NT) -- GTS, Friday, December 27, 12:53:15pm (331315a5.skybroadband.com/51.19.21.165)
- The old 2-storey stand (the north stand) was something else, wasn't it? It provided a panoramic view and must have been the highest stand in the whole Football League at the time. (NT) -- garence, Saturday, December 28, 06:17:49pm (82-71-33-251.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/82.71.33.251)
- Who would of thought? -- MLC, Friday, December 27, 09:00:21am (NoHost/104.28.30.151)
Potentially Over 30 points before The New Year!
Expectations will rise further from the fans to the team!
Lots of positives but demand nowadays is success? Big question is are they content or do they go and build further! There is room for a bit more quality.
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- Which is fabulous and a great return . Now we need to take more from the bottom six . This season is a catalogue of contradictions. . I guess that is what is called consistency -- View from the riverside, Friday, December 27, 08:29:39am (NoHost/104.28.86.113)
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- For any of those without access to reliving full match on FFC... -- Rupert, Friday, December 27, 07:55:08am (NoHost/90.193.226.124)
You may have to fumigate yourself afterwards...
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- Thanks for posting this. Thought Tommy Langley was a pretty decent co-commentator. Full of praise for several Fulham players. Said after 79mins (before the equalizer) that Fulham were brilliant. Said the equalizer was deserved. Then says at the final whistle Fulham take a bow you were the better team. Can’t imagine Jim or Jamie ever being so magnanimous about any opponent and definitely not Chelsea. (NT) -- smartypants, Friday, December 27, 01:42:12pm (65.51.208.46.dyn.plus.net/46.208.51.65)
- Loved Gentleman's droll humour at the end of the dramatic Brentford comeback, along the lines of 'off you go, on your way then'... after the, er, unfortunate incident at Wembley... (NT) -- Rupert, Friday, December 27, 04:36:18pm (NoHost/90.193.226.124)
- Thanks from me too and the same comment on the commentrary. (NT) -- b+w g., Friday, December 27, 05:45:48pm (68.52.159.143.dyn.plus.net/143.159.52.68)
- Silva back on track! -- CHB, Friday, December 27, 06:11:38am (host109-157-101-170.range109-157.btcentralplus.com/109.157.101.170)
A match to be savoured for a long time. As much Silva got it wrong v Southampton, his selections and tactics were spot on today. Chelsea didn’t take their chances in the first half but we were the better side in the 2nd and the match stats show that overall we were more than worth a point. That was before the Muniz goal. Great Christmas present.
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- Top teams hold no fear for us. -- Crafty Cottager, Thursday, December 26, 10:40:07pm (NoHost/94.10.142.164)
We've taken 11 points in just 5 games from the current top 5. Shame we can't break teams down who park the bus.
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- To the song do wah diddy diddy -- Manfred women, Thursday, December 26, 10:27:06pm (host-217-8-22-33.as13285.net/217.8.22.33)
Do wah diddy diddy dum diddy do scoring past Brentford scoring 1 or scoring 2, he looks good, looks good, looks fine, looks fine Harry Wilson’s on my mind and he’s scoring all the time.
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- Muniz. I know I’m bias when it comes to him, but wow he was as good as any striker we have ever had when he came on today. -- Hg, Thursday, December 26, 09:55:23pm (NoHost/31.94.65.0)
He. Won every aerial ball that came his way, he muscled every defender out of a 50 50, and he scored the winning goal against the old enemy. All hail king Muniz.
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- It was the ultimate away performance, listen to the amazon interview with Marco, he has so much knowledge on who we are playing and their players, how they set up (NT) -- Waterboy, Thursday, December 26, 10:02:48pm (NoHost/84.65.7.19)
- Re: Muniz. I know I’m bias when it comes to him, but wow he was as good as any striker we have ever had when he came on today. (NT) -- What a transformation from Southampton, Thursday, December 26, 10:30:37pm (host-217-8-22-33.as13285.net/217.8.22.33)
- He'll never have to buy a drink in Fulham again. That 1st touch was sublime. Cult hero status? (NT) -- Fkev, Friday, December 27, 10:54:21am (NoHost/148.106.154.38)
- Relentless were we ! -- Mickey, Thursday, December 26, 09:33:31pm (host86-149-156-201.range86-149.btcentralplus.com/86.149.156.201)
Look at the stats , especially possession and XG! To go there with a new system ( for us) and both outfight and outscore them was absolutely phenomenal . It’s been a while if ever , that a Fulham side competed not only in skill but also in athleticism and tenacity against the so -called favoured sides , and came out on top in All departments . I was there in /79, but this is really on another scale and will be engraved in our hearts not only for the win but the manner of it . Great great atmosphere both during and of course at the triumphant end .
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- This article just posted on the BBC may just be the point where are finally taken seriously: -- Straw Clutchers Anonymous, Thursday, December 26, 09:25:39pm (NoHost/90.196.12.62)
www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cn54gpv6wz1o
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- Well done our fans today! We never stopped singing -- Yumyum, Thursday, December 26, 09:10:37pm (82-132-212-128.dab.02.net/82.132.212.128)
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- Quick opinion -- Henry1879, Thursday, December 26, 08:28:39pm (croy-26-b2-v4wan-167127-cust1611.vm24.cable.virginm.net/82.38.22.76)
Brilliant win from such a good Fulham team who are showing such depth over a busy period with plenty of injuries. Weirdly I thought the 3 at the back didn’t really work, it seemed to nullify Robinson’s runs from deep and none of our CBs wanted to follow palmer in to the space in front, which was giving him all kinds of space. Made some tweeks and actually like palmer said, and what I said a few days ago, turned it in to an end to end physical game which suits us. We just aren’t great when asked to control a game against a defensive team, but teams that come at us and get involved a basketball type affair plays to our strengths. Class by lukic, especially given his early yellow. Leno to me seems to be raising his standards again and Bassey was brilliant at getting us on the front foot.
Castagne great after his shackles were loosened second half and that finish by Muniz was outstanding. The touch with the right to kill it then slot with his left before their keeper set. Looked simple but was top class finishing. As I said last week to all those throwing him in the bin, he isn’t a world beater like some thought last season and he isn’t championship standard now, he’s a young striker learning his craft having some downs as well as ups and has plenty avoid him to develop into a really good prem CF, he’s ahead of where mitro was as a player at his age. Iwobi class again and I’m not sure what Robinson is made of but I just don’t get how he doesn’t seem to show any fatigue or weariness in comparison to others, he’s a machine.
Feels like it properly eradicates that Southampton mishap and shows when we don’t score it isn’t just a case of go and buy another CF, our 2 are decent and will be similar to mitro’s highest prem scoring season combined, which is good given only one is ever on the pitch. We are just suited to teams who come onto us and we can break, hence we are doing well against big teams, but struggle against deep sitting teams, just the makeup of our squad. Couple of great games next, Bournemouth and Ipswich will both have a go, they won’t do a Southampton, so we should go well, 4 points good, 6 points then we really are right in the Europe mix and an injection of talent in Jan will be really worth looking at.
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- I believe that is only the 3rd win at the bridge since i arrived at the cottage in 1957/8 sadly I have not been at any of them. Personally that result is our the most satisfying anywhere for many years. All things considered. -- CB, Thursday, December 26, 07:12:38pm (213-18-164-61.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.164.61)
I can only hope we keep this manager and that only players come and go. It's unlikely, but at 78, I'm happy to have seen Fulham compete at this high level whatever the future holds
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- It’s the only game that truely matters. Still not forgiven Dempsey for his injury time penalty miss there (NT) -- Hg, Thursday, December 26, 07:19:59pm (NoHost/149.50.169.254)
- That miss was at the Cottage. He should never have taken it as he was shattered. (NT) -- Birdman, Thursday, December 26, 07:40:21pm (NoHost/91.190.160.53)
- Agreed. The usual shuthousery from JT didn't help matters. (NT) -- FFC in Brighton., Thursday, December 26, 07:45:34pm (cpc88596-newt36-2-0-cust661.19-3.cable.virginm.net/82.17.198.150)
- To add to how annoying it was, the save came straight back out for an easy header into an empty net (I think Gudjohnsen) but instead Clint got there first with a stupid scissor kick which he blazed over (NT) -- JamieR, Thursday, December 26, 08:02:08pm (133.190.6.51.dyn.plus.net/51.6.190.133)
- I swear he missed one at the bridge too. It was on Valentine’s Day . (NT) -- Hg, Thursday, December 26, 08:28:08pm (NoHost/149.50.169.254)
- On my late Dad's birthday. Extra special. (NT) -- MF, Thursday, December 26, 07:38:15pm (82-132-234-50.dab.02.net/82.132.234.50)
- Can see why FFC didn't give Tosin a new contract... -- p, Thursday, December 26, 06:26:20pm (NoHost/90.213.242.75)
He really is useless. Absolute liability.
Can only assume he's actually still on the FFC payroll judging by today!
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- Came here for some reaction and see it’s been ruined by some selfish prick -- I guess you’re a Chelsea fan or literally insane, Thursday, December 26, 05:55:53pm (92.40.205.158.threembb.co.uk/92.40.205.158)
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- Glad he's enjoyed himself. Can you imagine being a troll is your favourite thing? Gawd bless im (NT) -- Mca, Thursday, December 26, 05:59:09pm (82-132-229-127.dab.02.net/82.132.229.127)
- How can they block some posts but not others. Anyway well done you mighty whites. (NT) -- Hodds Sutton, Thursday, December 26, 06:04:01pm (croy-25-b2-v4wan-169464-cust2015.vm24.cable.virginm.net/92.236.39.224)
- He's very personal in his attacks on Spigs and the FST. I have always thought him an angry and embittered man, who has been thwarted by somebody or someone. I get a sense that someone on here probably knows who he is. If he was outed, he could then be reported to the Police for his often racist, homophobic, offensive posts. Someone must know who this unsociable spoiler is?. (NT) -- Juana Aorta, Thursday, December 26, 09:58:24pm (NoHost/84.67.47.131)
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Re: khan should get on the phone to Potter , agree to sell Silva for £6m and top 5 we come!!! Well Shad did say in Dec that this was the best team hes ever assembled. Yet we only sit 9th!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We could go higher? (NT) -- marcos taken us as far......, Tuesday, January 07, 08:00:52pm (NoHost/185.40.4.101)
Re: Still ere. Just look at that team TK (bless him) assembled though. ALOT have gone on to better things since RELATION. Lookman! Lemina looks PRIME!. Mitro under Marco, now JEDI and TETE too. Tosin now CL contender!?? TC? Anguissa won League title and on repeat mission under conte. Word of caution though. Cavs and Andersen look on the DOWN slide and who'd swap Leno for Areloa now? (NT) -- maja might be mint under MS, Thursday, January 02, 05:34:50pm (NoHost/45.141.215.63)