- Is this a first? -- eXecutionEr, Wednesday, June 04, 03:02:22pm (mort-08-b2-v4wan-172685-cust235.vm24.cable.virginm.net/77.99.132.236)
"Tom Cairney and Kenny Tete have been offered new contracts, as have Luc De Fougerolles, Callum Osmand and Lemar Gordon."
From the club.
Why say that, unless you are struggling to tie them down, and you're doing it to put pressure on and/or letting fans know that you tried. Not sure it's a good sign. Not retaining Tete would be particularly bad.
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- Not retaining Tete will only be bad if we don't get in a replacement who is equally as good. If we get someone in who is better? So long Kenny, thanks for your contribution... (NT) -- Onwards..., Wednesday, June 04, 03:08:32pm (host81-133-110-86.in-addr.btopenworld.com/81.133.110.86)
- I think you're reading a bit too much into it. I just think in this day and age, with social media et al, if two out of contract players weren't mentioned in the staying or going lists, it will just drive a load of speculation. Now everyone knows where we are and thats that. Nothing more to it, IMO. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Wednesday, June 04, 03:38:14pm (85-115-43-2.mailcontrol.com/85.115.43.2)
- Isn’t Josh King out of contract?. No mention of him (NT) -- Birdman, Wednesday, June 04, 04:43:05pm (NoHost/37.72.152.33)
- We had years of people going apeshit about "all silence" from the club and that this sort of thing wasn't being explicitly communicated. (NT) -- HE, Wednesday, June 04, 04:51:20pm (98.220.137.157.bcube.co.uk/137.220.98.157)
- I think they said the same thing about Willian (that he'd been offered a contract) at the end of the previous season, before he took off to Greece. (NT) -- Straw Clutchers Anonymous, Wednesday, June 04, 05:19:34pm (NoHost/90.196.109.134)
- Be a shame to lose Tete for the reason we would have to spend valuable money on that position which we don't currently need to spend (NT) -- Waterboy, Wednesday, June 04, 07:13:38pm (NoHost/90.243.153.121)
- What's the situation with Reiss Nelson? -- GA, Wednesday, June 04, 02:57:04pm (ool-18b90125.dyn.optonline.net/24.185.1.37)
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- I thought it was slightly odd that he turned up for the lap of honour. I've had a feeling for a few reasons that we have agreed to buy him- this only reinforced that feeling. (NT) -- Jim© The Devon IP, Wednesday, June 04, 03:25:37pm (62-64-192-58.virtual1.co.uk/62.64.192.58)
- The fact Nelson had his op done by us and not Arsenal and was out for rest of season then I knew we had a deal in place. (NT) -- Mumbles, Wednesday, June 04, 04:37:37pm (NoHost/2.125.10.30)
- I think Marco mentioned in one of his press conferences that Nelson should or could (?) be signed permanently? I suspect the club will possibly trying to get out of the deal unless he can prove his fitness. I think once he proved his fitness at the start of the season just finished, he looked pretty good. (NT) -- Straw Clutchers Anonymous, Wednesday, June 04, 04:47:23pm (NoHost/90.196.109.134)
- I'm hoping that the fact it hasn't ben announced he is leaving, we have him for next season. Very good option if fit. (NT) -- GA, Wednesday, June 04, 05:11:02pm (ool-18b90125.dyn.optonline.net/24.185.1.37)
- I've just remembered a report half way through the season, that said he was hankering after a return to Germany where he's played before. (NT) -- Straw Clutchers Anonymous, Wednesday, June 04, 05:22:31pm (NoHost/90.196.109.134)
- We need players who can score and he isnt one of them (NT) -- Waterboy, Wednesday, June 04, 07:14:55pm (NoHost/90.243.153.121)
- Ivanovic -- Mickey, Wednesday, June 04, 11:01:02am (82-132-229-206.dab.02.net/82.132.229.206)
Seems Wolves are making a move for him to bolster their squad . 20 years old , 12 goals in Championship last season and cost Millwall a mere couple of million I believe . Has all the attributes of our former player , and would surely benefit from Jimenez’ experience and Silva’s coaching. Surely a worthwhile replacement for the dreadful and out of favour Vinicius .But would our magnificent recruitment and its much sought -after Leader ever ‘lower’ themselves to speak to a Championship Club ?
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- Bryan Mbeumo Wants 250,000 a week 😂😂😂😂😂 -- Button, Wednesday, June 04, 12:29:59am (NoHost/154.61.128.163)
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- It's a ridiculous sum of money but it isn't an uncommon salary in the modern game. Considering his performances last season he's as good as anyone on those wages. (NT) -- Samuel, Wednesday, June 04, 01:11:55am (NoHost/81.78.226.36)
- Makes me laugh reading Utd fans eulogising how their name and badge are such a big pull for players like mbuemo & Cuenca, erm not really, it’s because they know they’ll get obscene money and there’s only a handful of clubs that would pay 60+m for any player, let alone a player with no champs league experience. I’m sure it’s partly causing their downfall, pay enormous wages up front, players think they’ve made it and lack the desire to push on to earn a better contract. (NT) -- Henry1879, Wednesday, June 04, 08:37:48am (cpc113812-lea23-2-0-cust213.6-3.cable.virginm.net/86.26.216.214)
- Manchester United boasts a large and passionate global fanbase, with estimates of over 1.1 billion fans and followers. (NT) -- Small potatoes, Wednesday, June 04, 09:09:12am (NoHost/83.104.161.55)
- Got subbed off after an hour at Wembley - what a job Scotty did on them - right man right time - (NT) -- Rupert, Wednesday, June 04, 09:31:33am (5ec14d8b.skybroadband.com/94.193.77.139)
- So what do you think Haaland & Isak are on then, who are just ahead of him on goals scored but behind on assists last season? (NT) -- Bexhill Beast, Wednesday, June 04, 10:08:59am (host81-136-37-176.range81-136.btcentralplus.com/81.136.37.176)
- I’d say they’re at different stages, haaland champs league winner, ridiculous scoring ratio for multiple years at a top club, which brings a whole different pressure. Isak similar champs league and multiple season top class and just a better player, plus premium #9 position. IMO 250k+ ie elite wages are for elite who’ve already proven themself at a top club, as it comes with a whole different pressure to a lower mid prem club. (NT) -- Henry1879, Wednesday, June 04, 10:50:42am (NoHost/85.255.236.3)
- Saying all that players can ask for whatever they want, especially as they know Utd have spent years paying huge wages for mediocrity, but that’s the attraction, not the Utd badge; they know get a move to Utd from a mid table club and you’ve got your career defining contract, without having to take that step of being a champs league level really elite player. (NT) -- Henry1879, Wednesday, June 04, 10:56:55am (cpc113812-lea23-2-0-cust213.6-3.cable.virginm.net/86.26.216.214)
- Premier League freeze £30.00 for Adults away tickets. -- Tina Weymouth (Bass), Tuesday, June 03, 09:45:19pm (host-2-102-161-56.as13285.net/2.102.161.56)
Welcome news but why isn’t there a set price for Junior Away supporters? Teams like Walham Green, West Ham,Arsenal charge around £22/27.00 while Boscombe and Bus Stop Charge around £10.00. Must be addressed.
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- Cuenca has reportedly asked to leave and Rayo Vallecano are in talks... -- G, Tuesday, June 03, 05:00:43pm (NoHost/90.213.242.75)
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- £10m and he's yours... £4m profit after 1 season when clearly he isn't that god (NT) -- Pdf, Tuesday, June 03, 05:07:57pm (NoHost/213.137.138.101)
- That’s a real shame, I think he’s class, good age, really don’t think there’s a huge amount between Bassey & Cuenca, same is there isn’t between diop & Anderson, despite being very different types. He’s a starter though, deserves more than as a 3/4th choice, never looked out of place when playing for us, that’s impressive as a prem debutant season without consistent games. (NT) -- Henry1879, Tuesday, June 03, 07:52:08pm (cpc113812-lea23-2-0-cust213.6-3.cable.virginm.net/86.26.216.214)
- Looked quality against Man City… he’s better than Anderson (NT) -- PC, Tuesday, June 03, 08:46:00pm (cpc113808-lea23-2-0-cust136.6-3.cable.virginm.net/86.26.148.137)
- #FulhamFC are among the clubs who have enquired about Genoa's Mexican defender Johan Vasquez (NT) -- Gossip, Tuesday, June 03, 10:29:20pm (NoHost/83.105.186.218)
- That would be a real shame if true. We haven't seen enough of him, but at least from what I saw, he clearly is talented. Could imagine a scenario where we lose Robinson sign a marauding right back and look to the left-back to tuck in as a 3rd CB when in possession, like we asked Tete to do this season. Bassey would be ideal on left in that scenario, opening up the LCB spot for Cuenca. (NT) -- eganonoa, Wednesday, June 04, 12:20:56am (NoHost/172.56.3.8)
- His main gripe seems to be he wants to play - with the length of his contract and his performances already suggesting he is at least average Premier League level the price has to be £20m minimum - we'd be better off flogging him to one of the promoted clubs than a small club in Spain trying to get him on the cheap - (NT) -- Rupert, Wednesday, June 04, 09:44:08am (5ec14d8b.skybroadband.com/94.193.77.139)
- Strange signing if Marco really wanted him, why did he hardly play. Same as Sess, more goals than any of our wide players pre joining and doesn't play until last 3 months (NT) -- Waterboy, Wednesday, June 04, 11:57:37am (NoHost/148.252.146.74)
- ...another take on Joao Palhinha... -- G, Tuesday, June 03, 03:08:44pm (host81-133-110-86.in-addr.btopenworld.com/81.133.110.86)
Has he upset a few people? Seems harsh even if he has underwhelmed people:
<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="https://footmundo.co.uk/2025/06/02/bayern-munich-joao-palhinha-flop-fulham">https://footmundo.co.uk/2025/06/02/bayern-munich-joao-palhinha-flop-fulham</a>
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- Joao Palhinha -- Andrew in Bath, Tuesday, June 03, 02:10:49pm (NoHost/90.210.119.115)
Fascinating and very informative discussion (below) re Mitrovic. Consensus seems to be no.
Yet would people consider having JP back - left in excellent odour, gave us a good season despite his transfer in August 2023 going pear-shaped, superb player. How we fit him in …? Deploy purely as attacking midfielder? Omit Lukic or Berge? Nice problem IMHO.
I’d welcome him back without reservation.
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- We couldn’t really accommodate him without leaving out one/both of Lukic and Berge. That ship has sailed and for me No More 30 + year olds . (NT) -- Mickey, Tuesday, June 03, 02:15:11pm (82-132-213-210.dab.02.net/82.132.213.210)
- I loved him but spent so long injured this season, he plays with that 100% effort that could lead to more injuries (NT) -- Waterboy, Tuesday, June 03, 02:17:38pm (NoHost/85.255.234.174)
- My misgivings wouldn't be dissimilar to Mitrovic but for slightly different specifics. A lot of his game was based on perfectly timed, crunching tackles. I always said (when he was at the club) that it was a bit of a tightrope because if he gets a fraction slower, a few of those tackles become red cards or penalties. Combine that with what he would cost and it's another (pretty resounding) no from me. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Tuesday, June 03, 03:14:56pm (NoHost/84.65.41.50)
- Re: Joao Palhinha (NT) -- For Portugal looking a limited player., Tuesday, June 03, 04:27:34pm (host-2-102-161-56.as13285.net/2.102.161.56)
- Fulham to face Al-Ittihad in a pre-season friendly, probably in Portugal (according to Hammyend) -- G, Tuesday, June 03, 09:47:51am (host81-133-110-86.in-addr.btopenworld.com/81.133.110.86)
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- Bubbles & Chips -- Eerwah, Tuesday, June 03, 05:32:36am (customer.sydyaus1.pop.starlinkisp.net/206.83.112.83)
Without ongoing squad investment, new stand with its bells and whistles risks being a white elephant. This factor is one measure of support for helping to assure new faces will form part of FFC once early August is with us. Previous Khan seasons experience should assist to make sure newcomers arrive early for the greatly important pre season preprations. Much of this is logical stuff but Fulham have been known for things to be improvised and resulting in disappointment. If I am right to interpret current stewardship aims for progressive improvement, 25/26 season might perhaps ours to cheer.
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- Mitrovic is available for transfer or loan apparently -- Ffc, Monday, June 02, 01:35:10pm (97e02c8e.skybroadband.com/151.224.44.142)
Would you have him back at Fulham ? Available for £40 mill
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- Nope, not in a month of sundays. Massively overpriced considering he's declined in quality and is two years older. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Monday, June 02, 02:14:59pm (NoHost/84.65.41.50)
- Wow! Really torn over this. What would his fitness be like after 2 seasons in a poor league? (NT) -- Andrew in Bath, Monday, June 02, 02:15:39pm (NoHost/90.210.119.115)
- No (NT) -- Hammersmithender, Monday, June 02, 02:38:19pm (NoHost/31.94.74.143)
- Not for me. I prefer the goals to come from different options, rather than just through an old fashioned target man. Plus he lost us that cup QF at Old Trafford with his 'heads gone' moment. (NT) -- Mr Kurkuruza, Monday, June 02, 03:01:12pm (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
- Think we can rule out Burnley? Could see a Leeds signing maybe, rumour of Man U surely not? (NT) -- woodman, Monday, June 02, 03:02:38pm (NoHost/46.31.84.144)
- Everton reportedly interested, Fulham reportedly not. (NT) -- The lowdown, Monday, June 02, 03:19:32pm (NoHost/90.213.242.75)
- When Hillal offered £25m Henry/Eganonoa on here said no English club would offer more than that . For once that was true cos and English club would have had to match the offered wages . Looking back same happened with Mitrovic that happened with Muniz . He had an explosive run of form and then cooled off to a level below that . Great run of form to attract interest , then cool off period to keep price down . It’s like we are being used as a club where agents can try out new techniques . (NT) -- alanos, Monday, June 02, 03:26:46pm (82-132-213-2.dab.02.net/82.132.213.2)
- Mitrovic def No, but Ivanovic as a back up to Vinicius Yes . Meanwhile the 2 posters you mention have for last few days been conspicuous by their absence on here. Perhaps the Club have given them a few deserved days off (NT) -- Mickey, Monday, June 02, 03:47:45pm (82-132-230-150.dab.02.net/82.132.230.150)
- That's not correct. (NT) -- Club Stooge, Monday, June 02, 04:02:21pm (host86-145-9-192.range86-145.btcentralplus.com/86.145.9.192)
- Re: Mitrovic def No, but Ivanovic as a back up to Vinicius Yes . Meanwhile the 2 posters you mention have for last few days been conspicuous by their absence on here. Perhaps the Club have given them a few deserved days off -- Twat Finder General, Monday, June 02, 04:55:06pm (host86-149-216-135.range86-149.btcentralplus.com/86.149.216.135)
- There is only one , and definitely not a club stooge ( at least not the owner’s stooge ) Has other names too (NT) -- alanos, Monday, June 02, 04:56:51pm (82-132-213-48.dab.02.net/82.132.213.48)
- All day long but Raul’s with us for another season so that ain’t gonna happen unfortunately. Love to see him back in 1er and at the tender age of 30 he won’t be short of suitors nor would he let anybody down. Brentford could be a likely location with their key strikers linked with lucrative moves elsewhere. Perfect replacement for them and late lamented Ivan Toney. (NT) -- Bad Boy, Monday, June 02, 03:50:17pm (NoHost/2.222.160.125)
- I'm with the firm 'no's, for the several reasons mentioned. (NT) -- b+w g., Monday, June 02, 04:38:12pm (68.52.159.143.dyn.plus.net/143.159.52.68)
- Haven't we got a sell on clause? (NT) -- Phil, Monday, June 02, 05:37:07pm (saphil.plus.com/31.125.165.251)
- Next summer on a free when his contract expires. (NT) -- MF, Monday, June 02, 06:01:12pm (93.67.159.143.dyn.plus.net/143.159.67.93)
- Marco knows everything there is to know about Mitro including the way he left the club. I doubt Marco wants him back but if he does who are we to say he's wrong. (NT) -- The Man With No Name, Monday, June 02, 06:37:35pm (host86-191-218-152.range86-191.btcentralplus.com/86.191.218.152)
- I can't imagine Tony would even consider it after the dark cloud that hovered over the situation at that time. Despite the great things that Mitro achieved with us, it ended up being an almost silent departure from the club's press coverage. And can we overlook Mitros behaviour in the United cup game? He seemed to be looking for a way out. It's a shame because he's a nightmare for defences and we've suffered us a result of him leaving. (NT) -- Samuel, Monday, June 02, 06:51:35pm (NoHost/81.78.226.36)
- Obviously far superior to Carlos, but we need a different profile of striker to Raul/Muniz (NT) -- Waterboy, Monday, June 02, 06:57:18pm (NoHost/90.243.153.121)
- A no from me too - not based on making a judgement on all the stuff in the media prior to his departure, none of which I can know for certain; but purely based on what I saw with my own eyes. That said, I will not be at all surprised to see him scoring in our net next season if he is leaving the desert; but supporting a club has to mean more than the club's narrow self interest. At least it does in my book. (NT) -- Barry@ENF, Monday, June 02, 07:20:53pm (NoHost/83.105.101.168)
- Of course. Have him back in a heartbeat far superior to anything we have now. (NT) -- The Enclosurite, Monday, June 02, 07:53:31pm (NoHost/90.221.19.109)
- Absolutely not. (NT) -- Bexhill Beast, Monday, June 02, 08:28:16pm (host81-136-37-176.range81-136.btcentralplus.com/81.136.37.176)
- He's played in an inferior league for 2 seasons so would probably be less of a player now. (NT) -- Hammersmithender, Monday, June 02, 10:29:36pm (NoHost/31.94.74.143)
- Career goals in the English Prem League: Raul 59 (every 247m), Mitro 38 (every 237m), Muniz 17 (every 150m). Goals/assists in the EPL: Raul 80 (every 182m), Mitro 49 (every 183.5 mins), Muniz 19 (every 134m). So if you reckon Mitro superior, let alone far superior, you have other than actual goals and things in mind. Or are down memory lane still, recalling he tore up The Championship. Or.... there's a really meaningful different reason. What is it? (NT) -- b+w g., Monday, June 02, 11:22:41pm (68.52.159.143.dyn.plus.net/143.159.52.68)
- I don't think it would send a great message to the other team members, and i agree he walked out on us just before the start of a critical season leaving us in the lurch. I personally thought that after his injury with Serbia he wasn't the same player, lost pace and mobility and his attitude was also questionable. He'll be 31 at the start of the season and as has been stated above, has been playing in a dubuious league light years away from Premier League standard. (NT) -- Long Termer, Tuesday, June 03, 08:18:21am (host86-182-137-173.range86-182.btcentralplus.com/86.182.137.173)
- Re: Mitrovic is available for transfer or loan apparently -- Dellers (Yes), Tuesday, June 03, 10:15:08am (host86-177-1-17.range86-177.btcentralplus.com/86.177.1.17)
- It’s never going to happen but I think MS has a very different view of him and his departure than all the naysayers on here. (NT) -- The Drobe, Tuesday, June 03, 10:22:22am (NoHost/31.94.15.61)
- No, completely hypothetical as club bosses were appalled by his behaviour. Hope a rival gets rinsed, make interesting viewing., as will his reception at the Cottage which would be mixed, rather than vitriolic. Shame it had to end this way. Palhina just voted 'flop of the season' in Germany too, when will players learn, eh? (NT) -- Rupert, Tuesday, June 03, 11:06:15am (5ec14d8b.skybroadband.com/94.193.77.139)
- He's 2 years older than when we had him, so 2 years slower. His melt down at old Trafford cost us, probably a semi final and trip to Wembley. He went on strike and mucked up the start to our season. Refused to have a relegation clause in his contract so harmed the team in recruitment. Had a terrible record taking pens which, no doubt he would insist on having to take as it's on his nature to be the "main man". No thanks. (NT) -- Jimmy Hill's Chin, Tuesday, June 03, 11:21:23am (4e5684ba.skybroadband.com/78.86.132.186)
- SoS or other PSR experts -- Curious, Monday, June 02, 07:18:55am (NoHost/109.76.154.225)
Can Brenrford really spend upto 200 million in this window?
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- BBC football spend. (NT) -- Lovely weather, Monday, June 02, 07:44:25am (0540b459.skybroadband.com/5.64.180.89)
- I don't know anything about football finances or accounts, but it's unlikely Wissa or Mbeumo are going to stick around this summer so there's probably £80+ million in those two. Brentford did waste £30+ million on Fabio who doesn't seem to have a future at the club with no chance of recouping anywhere near what they paid. But I suppose the Toney money covered that mistake. (NT) -- Samuel, Monday, June 02, 08:56:26am (NoHost/81.78.226.36)
- They can if they sell, but can they have a net spend of £200m? I would be very, very surprised (NT) -- Same Old Story, Monday, June 02, 10:58:23am (NoHost/84.65.41.50)
- The BBC page i was reading, guy was saying other than Villa and UTD everyone else could feasibly spend 100+ plus and be ok. They said Brighton/Brentford could go 200 million if needed (NT) -- Waterboy, Monday, June 02, 12:26:38pm (NoHost/90.243.153.121)
- Re: SoS or other PSR experts -- PC, Tuesday, June 03, 02:41:12pm (cpc113808-lea23-2-0-cust136.6-3.cable.virginm.net/86.26.148.137)
- Kelleher to Brentford. -- Zvezdara boy, Sunday, June 01, 06:34:12pm (93-97-53-215.zone5.bethere.co.uk/93.97.53.215)
Good keeper, 12.5m plus add-ons .
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- More Silva -- Goss, Sunday, June 01, 06:26:37pm (0540b459.skybroadband.com/5.64.180.89)
Premier League team Fulham wants to add Beşiktaş's Portuguese star Rafa Silva to their squad. The English club will make a €10 million offer to the Black-and-Whites.
A surprise suitor has emerged from the Premier League for the star of the season, Rafa Silva, at the Super Lig giant Beşiktaş. The surprising development was reported by the British press
According to a report in The Telegraph, Premier League team Fulham wants to sign Rafa Silva, who is wearing the Beşiktaş jersey next season. It was stated that Portuguese coach Marco Silva wants his compatriot Rafa Silva in his plans for the upcoming season and has submitted a report to the management in this regard
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- 32 years old, reasonable pedigree (NT) -- Andrew in Bath, Sunday, June 01, 06:40:56pm (NoHost/90.210.119.115)
- Sorry! Incomplete post ie .. pedigree but surely younger players should be targeted! (NT) -- Andrew in Bath, Sunday, June 01, 07:11:07pm (NoHost/90.210.119.115)
- Re: More Silva (NT) -- It will be Hi Ho Silva lining everywhere we go, Monday, June 02, 01:59:44am (host-2-102-161-56.as13285.net/2.102.161.56)
- Hi ho Silva Silva away ! (NT) -- The Lone Ranger Ranger., Monday, June 02, 10:57:22am (0540b459.skybroadband.com/5.64.180.89)
- 32 years old played 25 times for Portugal and never scored . Maybe a back up but we need proper strikers . And can we please get business done early in the window this year (NT) -- View from the Riverside, Tuesday, June 03, 08:11:18am (NoHost/146.75.174.29)
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Sir Woy lined up 'if' Marco leaves -- not bothered either way, Sunday, June 01, 04:02:45pm (NoHost/84.65.127.144)
will know very soon
Woy finish 8-13
Silva finish 8-13
both will give us 2-3 seasons max.. who cares ?
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- Personally would go for Ange 'Trophy in 2nds season' Postecoglou.......... Spurs sacking him monday. We should already be talking to him about coming straight here... much better than Rogers, McKenna and even Roy/Lew (NT) -- See you Southend lads, Sunday, June 01, 04:41:22pm (ns5024469.ip-148-113-168.net/148.113.168.111)
- Re: Sir Woy lined up 'if' Marco leaves (NT) -- If I had a choice Frank from Bus Stop., Sunday, June 01, 05:06:54pm (host-2-102-161-56.as13285.net/2.102.161.56)
- Re: Sir Woy lined up 'if' Marco leaves (NT) -- Roy heavily linked with Eastbourne Town., Sunday, June 01, 06:05:50pm (host-2-102-161-56.as13285.net/2.102.161.56)
- Please no! Can you imagine the dour football and relegation battles. McKenna for me unless Jose is still a free agent. (NT) -- CB Who the f*** knows anyway., Sunday, June 01, 06:21:55pm (213-18-176-223.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.176.223)
- Re: Sir Woy lined up 'if' Marco leaves o thahks (NT) -- Alboy, Monday, June 02, 09:31:36am (u-x-178-175-217.4bone.mynet.it/178.175.217.28)
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Whoses worse? Paris SG fans or Liverpool fans -- tifosi, Sunday, June 01, 03:39:15pm (ns3213672.ip-141-94-249.eu/141.94.249.205)
close call indeed...
is there a worse bunch in the 2025's?
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- Liverpool…. Those rioting in Paris are doctors and engineers not football supporters (NT) -- Cultural enrichment, Sunday, June 01, 09:39:10pm (NoHost/94.10.55.201)
- PSG , no comparison ! (NT) -- Ted, Monday, June 02, 07:02:40am (NoHost/90.206.40.11)
- Hands down Liverpool. European city of of self pity and victimisation 1985-2025 (NT) -- View from the Riverside, Monday, June 02, 07:24:05am (NoHost/104.28.40.139)
- Are you talking about Heysel ? Where Italian fans , armed to the teeth with knives , attacked Liverpool fans who retaliated making the Italians run away ! (NT) -- Ted, Monday, June 02, 04:31:29pm (NoHost/90.206.40.11)
- So you’re saying the Italians were blameless , what rubbish ! Hillsborough , all down to the police (NT) -- Ted, Tuesday, June 03, 03:01:39pm (NoHost/90.206.40.11)
- Liverpool fans did not cause the crush FACT so the Italians were carrying knives to use as what , to stab Liverpool fans ! (NT) -- Ted, Tuesday, June 03, 06:53:56pm (NoHost/90.206.40.11)
- Next signing? -- old codger, Sunday, June 01, 09:01:42am (cpc96298-lewi18-2-0-cust351.2-4.cable.virginm.net/86.3.237.96)
Raheem Sterling -the new Willian. He fits the the template, past success, still a few years left, cheap and grateful for the chance.
"Arsenal will make no attempt to sign Raheem Sterling from Chelsea after the 30-year-old English winger's underwhelming loan spell with the Gunners."
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- At 30, he still has time to resserect his career at a bigger club. I suspect the likes of Everton, Westham, perhaps even Tottenham will be sniffing around him. If Marco remains at Fulham, I think it would be a good move for Sterling, but I don't think he would be interested in signing for us. (NT) -- Samuel, Sunday, June 01, 10:49:16am (NoHost/81.78.226.36)
- Reporter on BBC Page was suggesting we could spend between 100-150 million and be ok, also hinted wage bill a little too high for small club. On the downside, apart from Villla and Utd said everyone else could spend similar and be ok (NT) -- Waterboy, Sunday, June 01, 11:57:19am (NoHost/90.243.153.121)
- Everybody on here waxes lyrical about the players Brighton and Brentford sign through their excellent scouting. Does anybody think either of them would sign Sterling, I don’t think so. Saudi is his best bet. Not fo us, a big NO! (NT) -- The truth slayer, Sunday, June 01, 12:37:44pm (host86-180-16-100.range86-180.btcentralplus.com/86.180.16.100)
- He is on 275 k a week no chance unless it is a loan and Chelsea pay 85 % of the wages (NT) -- Button, Sunday, June 01, 12:39:15pm (nmal-23-b2-v4wan-169190-cust1261.vm24.cable.virginm.net/80.5.116.238)
- I’d rather sign his step brother (NT) -- Orville The Duck, Sunday, June 01, 12:40:40pm (NoHost/2.125.10.30)
- For heaven's sake, the original post is not serious is it. We are not actually going to sign him are we, so no need for people to get upset by "the club" doing something! (NT) -- GTS, Sunday, June 01, 03:40:15pm (NoHost/31.94.64.56)
- Boys against Men ! -- Gary, Saturday, May 31, 09:29:40pm (host31-51-137-1.range31-51.btcentralplus.com/31.51.137.1)
This Champions League Final.
Trying to remember a one sided final like this since the revamp? When Madrid beat Juventus not sure it was as conclusive as this game tonight.
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- 9 substitutions. No additional time??? (NT) -- bs, Saturday, May 31, 09:54:11pm (NoHost/90.196.2.45)
- Complete wrong tactics from Inter the manager made it easy for PSG who in there right mind sits off them and lets them dictate play . Inter should have got in there faces the same way they did to Barcelona I am flabbergasted at the ineptitude of there manger not to change the tactics (NT) -- Button, Sunday, June 01, 01:33:05am (nmal-23-b2-v4wan-169190-cust1261.vm24.cable.virginm.net/80.5.116.238)
- Button. I imagine that your remarks about ineptitude also apply to Liverpool, City, Villa and Arsenal’s managers as they also lost to PSG. (NT) -- Birdman, Sunday, June 01, 11:52:34am (NoHost/37.72.152.33)
- PSG could be as good as Brazil 1970. Technically brilliant, fit, organised, fast, intelligent, brilliant decision making, selfless, work for each other. Absolutely brilliant. I think football is becoming a younger man's game. (NT) -- WayneKerrins, Sunday, June 01, 12:06:53pm (host109-159-23-17.range109-159.btcentralplus.com/109.159.23.17)
- I stand by what I said Liverpool lost on penalties Villa should have won in the second leg two unbelievable saves from the PSG keeper vill rattled them got in there face and put them off there game . Inter were terrible 💯 blame the manager you can't sit off them (NT) -- Button, Sunday, June 01, 12:43:47pm (nmal-23-b2-v4wan-169190-cust1261.vm24.cable.virginm.net/80.5.116.238)
- Should've could've didn't. Liverpool villa arsenal. Inter couldn't lay a fingernail let alone a glove on them. Get in their faces ? The bus don't stop there ! (NT) -- Lovely weather, Sunday, June 01, 01:25:31pm (0540b459.skybroadband.com/5.64.180.89)
- Re: Boys against Men ! (NT) -- Love to watch him every week Kvaratshelia., Sunday, June 01, 05:03:53pm (host-2-102-161-56.as13285.net/2.102.161.56)
- reply to Fulhams reported Cf search. reply over the word limit so moved here -- Contra, Saturday, May 31, 09:41:35am (static-68-235-44-30.cust.tzulo.com/68.235.44.30)
everything in context then? as simple look at the stats shows hes is no where near the top of the GOAL scorers list in theEredivisie. He IS one of the higher CFs on the list though, but he is behind the more know Luuk de Jong who is too old for us. Alarmingly he is also behind the simpliarly aged Troy Parrott who he compares too as goal poacher type. Problem is we've all seen him play for Spurs and in L2.. So if this lad scored less then HOW MUCH should we be paying for him? I'd say anything more than £5m is robbery. Much saver to buy from the English Champ or even L1 going by how many goals former Spurs u21 cf scored in Holland.
The next Harry Kane? unlikely as no CF has moved form the Dutch league recently directly to the PL. more likely next steap Portugal or France...
This move needs to be cheap with 1 season to settle with Raul into his FINAL season at Fulham before the new young CF steps up to battle Muniz for CF role.
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/transfer-news/wolves-now-discover-25m-troy-parrott-asking-price-but-theres-a-problem/ (NT) -- AZ want £25m for Parrot, Saturday, May 31, 09:45:50am (ns5020950.ip-148-113-153.net/148.113.153.96)
- I'd rather we looked at a young striker from Germany like Dženan Pejčinović or Nicolò Tresoldi (NT) -- 2. Bundesliga enjoyer, Saturday, May 31, 02:05:58pm (77-174-15-131.fixed.kpn.net/77.174.15.131)
- Ivanovic Millwall 21 years old, Conway Middlesbrough 22 years old take a punt Fulham 12 million for both (NT) -- Buttoned, Saturday, May 31, 03:13:46pm (NoHost/148.252.140.52)
- Breaking news (apparently) -- Samuel, Friday, May 30, 10:51:10pm (NoHost/81.78.226.36)
Juventus have been offered the profile of Fulham coach Marco Silva!
(Other reports say) They've made contact
Tough job to turn down.
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- Marco Silva was proposed to Juventus by agent Jorge Mendes & Juventus are now evaluating the proposal. There's nothing concrete at this stage but exploratory talks have taken place. According to @TuttoMercatoWeb (NT) -- Samuel, Saturday, May 31, 01:10:50am (NoHost/81.78.226.36)
- When you wanted a Lamborghini, but then downgraded to Ducati, and finally settled for a scooter. (NT) -- Juve fans not impressed, Saturday, May 31, 07:57:29am (0540b459.skybroadband.com/5.64.180.89)
- Silva realises the Premier League is the only place to be - anything else is sloppy seconds - or worse - (NT) -- Rupert, Saturday, May 31, 08:20:20am (5ec14d8b.skybroadband.com/94.193.77.139)
- Encouraging -- Samuel, Friday, May 30, 10:33:05pm (NoHost/81.78.226.36)
Fulham are keen on signing PSV Eindhoven forward Ricardo Pepi this summer as Marco Silva seeks striking reinforcements, according to the Daily Telegraph.
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- Not good enough. (NT) -- GA, Friday, May 30, 10:37:02pm (ool-18b90125.dyn.optonline.net/24.185.1.37)
- The American international is tipped to leave the Netherlands this summer despite scoring seventeen goals in 28 appearances across all competitions as PSV won the Eredivisie on a dramatic final day after Ajax’s astonishing implosion. The 22 year-old Texan, who has scored thirteen goals in 33 senior caps for his country, has found the net 26 times in 68 appearances for Peter Boscz’s side and has attracted frenzied transfer speculation off the back of his stellar season (NT) -- Why not ?, Friday, May 30, 10:48:28pm (0540b459.skybroadband.com/5.64.180.89)
- "Kamala has got this." - GA (03:00:43pm, October 18th 2024) (NT) -- Pepi the frog, Friday, May 30, 11:01:10pm (NoHost/146.70.186.132)
- The original Biden loving GA wouldn’t have a clue who this guy is even . Of course the club probably knows which fans have cancelled memberships through falling off their perch (NT) -- alanos, Saturday, May 31, 04:51:22pm (82-132-214-53.dab.02.net/82.132.214.53)
- 1 goal every three in a poor Dutch league playing for one of the top sides. (NT) -- No no no no no, Saturday, May 31, 08:17:26am (NoHost/2.125.10.30)
- I can’t see us attracting much better financially (NT) -- CB, Saturday, May 31, 08:30:41am (213-18-176-223.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.176.223)
- Dealings like brighton Bournemouth Brentford then ? (NT) -- Showery weather, Saturday, May 31, 09:01:51am (0540b459.skybroadband.com/5.64.180.89)
- Re: Encouraging (NT) -- Fulham in Pepi talks, Saturday, May 31, 09:21:18pm (host-2-102-161-56.as13285.net/2.102.161.56)
- Looking forward to next season -- Alboy, Friday, May 30, 08:52:30pm (host81-141-215-112.range81-141.btcentralplus.com/81.141.215.112)
Have renewed my season ticket in Johny Haynes just on the halfway line above press boxes. It's a fantastic view . Looked at the new Riverside stand but just love where we are. Really looking forward to next season with the right additions it really could be a other exciting season. Hopefully we can push on into Europe and get to a cup final.I wonder how many on here have renewed and are you keeping existing seats?
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- Glastonbury Football Shirt -- Mr Kurkuruza, Friday, May 30, 10:34:07am (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="https://www.glastonburyfestivals.co.uk/news/glastonbury-festival-adidas-football-shirt-out-today/">https://www.glastonburyfestivals.co.uk/news/glastonbury-festival-adidas-football-shirt-out-today/</a>
I know some on here are big into shirt design, so what's your thoughts on this special Adidas made shirt for the upcoming Glastonbury Festival? As football shirt designs go, I think this looks good.
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- 2025/26 Season Tickets -- Tina Weymouth (Bass), Thursday, May 29, 02:14:03pm (host-2-102-161-56.as13285.net/2.102.161.56)
Anyone seen the 2025/26 Season Ticket Price Tariffs Now being based on at least 3 years of having continuous ST. Scaling to 2nd year Renewals and 1 year Renewals. Prices varying accordingly. Don’t recall anything like this happening before.
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- My season ticket costs £120 less than someone sitting directly behind me, because his was a new ticket at the start of this cycle of dynamic pricing, and mine was a renewal. Someone who has a new ST since would be paying even more. Its all a bit bizaare, really. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Thursday, May 29, 02:28:36pm (85-115-50-2.mailcontrol.com/85.115.50.2)
- Re: 2025/26 Season Tickets (NT) -- This has gone under the Radar, Thursday, May 29, 02:50:59pm (host-2-102-161-56.as13285.net/2.102.161.56)
- Yes all priced according to individual history , and for those moving up from ‘Young Adults’ ..savage increases ! No wonder they didn’t display prices acc to Location. Not forgetting needing to renew ahead of being able to relocate . (NT) -- Mickey, Thursday, May 29, 02:55:21pm (82-132-229-129.dab.02.net/82.132.229.129)
- £226 difference between long-standing adult season ticket holders in H4 and supporters renewing a newly purchased 2024-2025 ticket. That difference will presumably be even higher for new purchases this summer. (NT) -- MF, Thursday, May 29, 03:16:06pm (NoHost/212.103.232.179)
- Re: 2025/26 Season Tickets (NT) -- Was the 2.8% increase across the board?, Thursday, May 29, 05:22:08pm (host-2-102-161-56.as13285.net/2.102.161.56)
- Anyone received and downloaded next years digital pass yet? (NT) -- Go, Thursday, May 29, 08:12:22pm (host86-150-245-99.range86-150.btcentralplus.com/86.150.245.99)
- Not received it yet but confidently expecting to be frantically battling the digital world when FFC issues the new passes say, oooh, some 25 minutes before the first home game kicks off (NT) -- Andrew in Bath, Thursday, May 29, 10:13:02pm (NoHost/90.210.119.115)
- big let down of a season -- Gripper, Thursday, May 29, 01:41:13pm (cpc160099-nmal26-2-0-cust468.19-2.cable.virginm.net/82.18.161.213)
Chelsea have won everything Fulham have still won sweet FA to even suggest they are our rivals is just silly and embarrassing ....best we stick to Brentford ! Losing to Palace in the cup and missing out on European football means a disappointing season sod the points total ! No way Man utd, West Ham, Spurs are going to be as bad next season .....weve missed the boat...
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- are you related to Button, Waterboy and/or Mickey? (NT) -- Club Stooge, Thursday, May 29, 02:56:57pm (host86-145-9-192.range86-145.btcentralplus.com/86.145.9.192)
- the truth hurts (NT) -- Gripper, Thursday, May 29, 04:05:28pm (cpc160099-nmal26-2-0-cust468.19-2.cable.virginm.net/82.18.161.213)
- Can I suggest the OP and those who responded do all of the following: 1) Call the Samaritans; 2) Get a life and a sense of perspective; 3) Go and support sleeping giants you think are resurrecting such as Man United, Spurs or just go full plastic and go to Scum (NT) -- Polecat - The Voice of Reason, Friday, May 30, 10:11:06am (014199181017.ctinets.com/14.199.181.17)
- Cairney testimonial -- Barry White, Thursday, May 29, 09:29:45am (nail-04-b2-v4wan-166353-cust1388.vm26.cable.virginm.net/82.35.133.109)
Will TC get a testimonial? Been at the club 10 years, would have thought so?
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- Millionair, better causes to donate to. (NT) -- Brian Williamson, Thursday, May 29, 10:19:44am (NoHost/80.233.62.206)
- Re: Cairney testimonial (NT) -- If he signs back on I think he will get one, Thursday, May 29, 02:16:41pm (host-2-102-161-56.as13285.net/2.102.161.56)
- Re: Cairney testimonial (NT) -- Against a Steve Clarke Scottish 11😂, Thursday, May 29, 02:20:11pm (host-2-102-161-56.as13285.net/2.102.161.56)
- Strange people on this board -- Polecat - The Voice of Reason, Thursday, May 29, 06:25:24am (NoHost/63.70.5.32)
God, there are some desperately negative, snowflake, entitled people on this board. When I used to post on here at the beginning of the Khan era people would be angered at the apparent negativity of my posts.
Let's compare the Khan's reign pre and post Silva. Before Silva the Khan's took us from an established Premier League team to a yo-yo team who were frequently were painful to watch. The coke crazed son's influence on recruitment wash horrific and responsible for countless crap Managers and players recruited.
And then Silva, and the relinquishing of responsibilities of Coke Khan. Silva has taken us from yo-yo to established Premier League team. Our style of play is good and so is our recruitment. We are now free of the legacy of horrific contracts and hence FFP restrictions and Silva should be able to build further on the great advances he's made.
Some people on here really are unrealistic and pathetic in demanding that somehow we should be automatically expecting to qualify for Europe. With the steady advances Silva is making we become better equipped each season. It is vital we keep the best coach we've ever had in the Premier League bar Roy.
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- Maybe Luka could be tempted to London and not Glasgow? -- CB, Wednesday, May 28, 10:30:54pm (213-18-176-223.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.176.223)
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- My final word - a review of the 24/25 season -- Mick Angel of Barnes, Wednesday, May 28, 06:51:47pm (cpc118432-lanc9-2-0-cust954.3-3.cable.virginm.net/86.25.135.187)
I first realised we were in for an inconsistent season when Anderson started pinging diagonals like a drunk conductor.
Our midfield, once silk, became clingfilm—transparent and easily punctured. Zero goal threat.
Periera, who I first met when he was a starlet in Manchester, played like a man dreaming of Marseille; his boots were here, his heart was in the French Riviera.
My amigo Rodrigo further blossomed— a sunflower in a dustbin—but too often isolated like a good bottle left corked.
Raúl Jiménez ran noble lines, but his legs speak Latin now—beautiful (like 'the handshake’), but dead.
Willian turned back time in bursts, then promptly ran out of it. We missed Nelson.
Our full-backs offered width in theory, chaos in practice. Robinson clearly injured through 2025.
VAR gifted us nothing but existential dread.
We finished the season like a once-great champagne—flattened, over-handled, and served warm at the wrong party.
And as Tom Cairney walks out for Wrexham…we clap, we sip, we wonder what might’ve been.
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- Fulham v Forest..... Spending. -- Samuel, Wednesday, May 28, 06:16:04pm (NoHost/81.78.226.36)
This stuff totally loses me. I'm not academic by any stretch of the imagination so even trying to understand the nature and complexities of FFP is a non starter.
Having been a silent observer to a conversation recently between a couple of people discussing which club had invested more in their team, with the Forest fan adamant that Fulham had a much higher spend than Forest. I think there was some irritation brewing because the Fulham fan was subtly attempting to undermine Forests achievements by pointing to effectively cheating and disproportionately huge spending by comparison to Fulham.
I know there a few people (SOS etc) on this forum who understand this stuff at a forensic level. Would be much appreciative for their input and clarification.
Cheers.
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- I mean - it really depends on a few parameters. What period are we discussing? What are we talking by spend? (ie, transfer fees, salaries?). Very high level, over the last two years they've recorded higher total costs, higher levels of loss, and have broadly the same wages. Amortisation is slightly higher than ours (suggesting a slightly higher net spend). Most importantly, only one of the two clubs has been fined for FFP breaches in the last 2 seasons and its not Fulham (NT) -- Same Old Story, Thursday, May 29, 10:12:40am (85-115-50-2.mailcontrol.com/85.115.50.2)
- Thank you for responding SOS, very much appreciated. The discussion was based on who has had the higher spend between the two clubs since Forest gained top flight promotion. There wasn't any specific definition to the argument, just the broad reference to overall investment, although the Forest supporter did say we had a higher net spend than them. It was getting a bit heated so I intervened with a distractive observation to calm things down which is when the discussion stopped. (NT) -- Samuel, Thursday, May 29, 01:19:52pm (NoHost/81.78.226.36)
- Think Forest had to pretty much replace their whole team as they had loanees who took them up. (NT) -- woodman, Thursday, May 29, 01:58:16pm (cpc158567-haye26-2-0-cust402.17-4.cable.virginm.net/86.15.153.147)
- They've spent more than us in total spend - (ie if you add their total costs up). They've spent more than us in both net and gross transfer fees. And they're spending around the same on us on wages. So, not quite sure how he's coming to us having a higher net spend (maybe forgetting the Mitrovic/Palhinha sales). But either way, he's wrong, and it's literally all there in the public, published accounts (NT) -- Same Old Story, Thursday, May 29, 02:26:36pm (85-115-50-2.mailcontrol.com/85.115.50.2)
- Andreas . Congrats. Brazil squad -- Lovely weather, Wednesday, May 28, 12:36:52pm (0540b459.skybroadband.com/5.64.180.89)
New Brazil boss Carlo Ancelotti has included Andreas Pereira in his first squad.
The Selecao will face Ecuador and Paraguay in next week's World Cup Qualifiers, where Andreas will hope to add to his nine caps.
On our midfielder's last appearance in the competition, he scored in a 4-0 win over Peru, his second international goal.
Good luck, Andreas! 🇧🇷
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- Hope he doesn't want him to score! (NT) -- Waterboy, Wednesday, May 28, 12:56:27pm (NoHost/90.243.153.121)
- Or take any direct free kicks! (NT) -- Sell, Wednesday, May 28, 01:11:39pm (host86-150-245-99.range86-150.btcentralplus.com/86.150.245.99)
- Or do anything useful! (NT) -- h, Wednesday, May 28, 01:57:38pm (NoHost/90.213.242.75)
- He scores for Brazil though (NT) -- Chris M, Wednesday, May 28, 02:45:22pm (NoHost/84.68.121.63)
- or pass to a yellow shirt (NT) -- GA, Wednesday, May 28, 03:44:11pm (ool-18b90125.dyn.optonline.net/24.185.1.37)
- Re: Andreas . Congrats. Brazil squad (NT) -- I know he grafts the line but disappointing, Wednesday, May 28, 05:41:31pm (NoHost/31.94.72.141)
- The Biden -Brains above don’t compute that next season he will be playing to get in to the Brazil squad /team for the World Cup , his last real chance . End of last season he may have been playing for a cheap exit back to Brazil (NT) -- alanos, Wednesday, May 28, 06:08:17pm (82-132-214-215.dab.02.net/82.132.214.215)
- At least they will play him in his favoured position, and not try to fit him in.. (NT) -- ESR, Wednesday, May 28, 06:09:19pm (host-89-240-129-27.as13285.net/89.240.129.27)
- Should we be worried? -- simpson, Wednesday, May 28, 08:56:34am (ns3038872.ip-164-132-162.eu/164.132.162.219)
The next few days and nights will be nervy and worrysome.
Despite Marco declaring 'hes staying'. It still remains to be seen if he or the Club will move on.
So until June 1st or 2nd hits. We have to hope No one puts £6M on the Table for Silvas services.
OR maybe even Shad/Tony deciding its time to move on from a Manager whose gone stall and is now into his final season.
So yes, if Silva is as he claims staying. That should only happen with a new contract extension and a backroom staff reshuffle?
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- You really think there’s a big queue for a manager who dropped 100m to finish 11th and have worse cup runs than the year before. Added to the fact that sometimes his football is dire to watch. If he stays great, if he goes he goes. For all you know our next manager could be the one to take us forwards. Equally he could take us backwards, no point losing sleep over it though. (NT) -- Hg, Wednesday, May 28, 09:26:09am (NoHost/31.94.64.243)
- Interesting that you moan- you're in the minority with Mickey et al, a recent survey by the Athletic showed that 90.5% of FFC fans were happy or really happy with how the season went. (NT) -- Jim© The Devon IP, Wednesday, May 28, 10:37:25am (62-64-192-58.virtual1.co.uk/62.64.192.58)
- I believe it’s about belief and expectation tbh, and as much as Silva talks about our ‘achievements ‘ , I believe he is nowhere near as satisfied as he would like and this has played a big part in his decision to stay . Look we all ‘rejoiced ‘ at reaching a Cup 1/4 final as if was a massive achievement ; just a simple example of what pleases us . The ‘aim’ of next season should be to break into the top 7 , nothing less . (NT) -- Mickey, Wednesday, May 28, 11:08:09am (82-132-228-190.dab.02.net/82.132.228.190)
- interesting, I believe you spent many years screeching for specifically mid table mediocrity, now it’s not enough… (NT) -- FF, Wednesday, May 28, 12:14:41pm (82-132-239-58.dab.02.net/82.132.239.58)
- We are almost at our ceiling, we won’t be breaking top 7 unless we have an outstanding season, luck with injuries and many things go our way. The nature of FFP means you get the odd anomaly (forest this season), but other than that 6 clubs are so ahead revenue wise we aren’t far off our ceiling, add in villa, Newcastle and even WHU with more financial firepower than us, it means for the forseeable 8-10th will repent a v.good season, we won’t just keep progressing constantly upwards. (NT) -- Henry1879, Wednesday, May 28, 01:27:36pm (cpc113812-lea23-2-0-cust213.6-3.cable.virginm.net/86.26.216.214)
- Long long loooooooooooooooooooong summer with Michael on overdrive....... (NT) -- Club Stooge, Wednesday, May 28, 02:18:26pm (host86-145-9-192.range86-145.btcentralplus.com/86.145.9.192)
- Although the cup runs were a disappointment compared to last years, we actually finished highier than I expected with this team. So in that I’m happy, but I just don’t buy into this silva is now all of a sudden a top target for everyone when you look at our bang average season after spending a lot of money in the summer window. (NT) -- Hg, Wednesday, May 28, 03:46:24pm (cpc141402-brnt4-2-0-cust971.4-2.cable.virginm.net/86.9.199.204)
- football Really! We got 65 Million for Palhinha so he never dropped a million. The football played has been great to watch. He improves players and has created a great environment at the club. Great .anager who is staying! (NT) -- Alboy, Wednesday, May 28, 10:51:23am (89-197-213-185.virtual1.co.uk/89.197.213.185)
- Fulham managers who have achieved higher Premier League finishes than Marco Silva: Chris Coleman, Martin Jol, Mark Hughes...(oh and some bloke called Roy Hodgson) (NT) -- dd, Wednesday, May 28, 09:41:25am (NoHost/90.213.242.75)
- Spurs losing the final may have been dodgy but I don't see it at the moment (NT) -- Waterboy, Wednesday, May 28, 11:54:21am (NoHost/90.243.153.121)
- Re: Should we be worried? (NT) -- What staff Reshuffle do you want?, Wednesday, May 28, 04:03:01pm (host-2-102-161-56.as13285.net/2.102.161.56)
- Should we be worried? -- Samuel, Tuesday, May 27, 07:57:20pm (NoHost/81.78.226.36)
Chelsea, Fulham & Nottingham Forest among clubs under investigation over claims of exploiting tax scheme to support scientific innovations for public good
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- Summing up: -- Alboy, Tuesday, May 27, 02:22:34pm (host81-141-215-112.range81-141.btcentralplus.com/81.141.215.112)
In the last two seasons we have lost probably our two best players in Mitrovic and latterly Palhina. After Mitro left a lot of pundits were predicting us to struggle.When Palhina went the same opinions were muted. In both cases we have recruited wisely and this season got our highest ever Premiership points total. If we had not lost from winning positions so many times and dropped points in extra time ,Europe would be beckoning. Eleventh positions would be considered a great success for our club had we not done so well. It has been a good season , we have played great football broken many records in terms of beating opposition and the Manager has done an excellent job. There all always ifs and buts in any season and we probably should have finished even higher. I believe Marco improves players and helps shown us that. To that end I expect all new signings to progress. We do have some very good players, some in the squad will undoubtedly go.The future in my opinion is very bright and if we continue recruiting in the right way I can see us challenging for European football again.
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- Re: Summing up: The most ambiquitous post we've scene yet! > says a lot but then again says nothing... for example. mentions thats we have alot of good players.. WHAT is alot? and who are these good players? mentions the futrues bright, yet how is it when the team gets older by the day. will this improve if we continue to recruit the same way? (NT) -- confusded . com, Tuesday, May 27, 02:29:52pm (ns5019346.ip-15-235-118.net/15.235.118.222)
- Robinson, Bassey, Leno, Tete, Lukic Wilson, Muniz, Anderson, Bergh, Traore, Iwobi, Pereira, to name a few. Plus afew talented youngsters Josh king, etc. (NT) -- Alboy, Tuesday, May 27, 02:40:32pm (host81-141-215-112.range81-141.btcentralplus.com/81.141.215.112)
- I think with a club like ours it's never going to be the future looks bright. We are always under threat of players/managers leaving for greener pastures. It will always be hard for us to improve on mid table. I'm personally content with that rather than expecting more or fighting relegation. Those bad decades still linger in my memory. Also,our owners at times leave things to be desired but we must keep them and thier stability. (NT) -- CB, Tuesday, May 27, 04:05:32pm (213-18-176-223.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.176.223)
- Tete’ s form has dropped off badly. His hesitation against Everton cost us the equalizer and he hesitated on a long ball Sunday that almost cost a goal. (NT) -- Birdman, Tuesday, May 27, 04:23:00pm (NoHost/37.72.152.33)
- Mr Khan said in his programme notes: "we will work closely with Marco this summer and throughout next season to back and complement this exceptional group of players " We are on the right path. Stay tuned. (NT) -- Mr No Name, Tuesday, May 27, 04:36:14pm (host86-166-64-159.range86-166.btcentralplus.com/86.166.64.159)
- Hope your optimism is justified. Squad wise we have a lot of old highly paid players. Looking at smaller clubs I would say Brentford and Bournemouth are in better positions and BHA who arguably are now bigger than us are streets ahead in terms of personnel. I think we have the best manager or level with Bournemouth. Overall I think we start with a lot worse cards than our mid and upper mid table rivals. Palace included. (NT) -- WayneKerrins, Tuesday, May 27, 05:14:55pm (pool-108-2-117-254.phlapa.fios.verizon.net/108.2.117.254)
- I think both those 2 clubs are more likely to suffer pillage than we are in the summer. (NT) -- The Drobe, Tuesday, May 27, 06:47:39pm (host109-152-208-53.range109-152.btcentralplus.com/109.152.208.53)
- Exactly, a factor I think is being underestimated. (NT) -- Bexhill Beast, Tuesday, May 27, 07:26:38pm (host81-136-37-176.range81-136.btcentralplus.com/81.136.37.176)
- But that’s the model, selling players needs to be seen less negatively, it’s good if someone comes in and gets sold for big £££, it means they’ve done well, recruitment is going well and the team is benefitting. Everyone loses players, TAA just signed for Madrid. Without decent sales last 2 years our budget would have been peanuts, we’d potentially have failed FFP. They’ll sell, get big profit and reinvest and improve, same as when solanke, Toney, Watkins etc got sold. (NT) -- Henry1879, Tuesday, May 27, 08:20:01pm (cpc113812-lea23-2-0-cust213.6-3.cable.virginm.net/86.26.216.214)
- Agreed but as ‘enry’s said that isn’t bad it’s a rinse and repeat model which if your recruitment is good means you can sustain competitive teams season after season. (NT) -- WayneKerrins, Wednesday, May 28, 12:21:29pm (pool-108-2-117-254.phlapa.fios.verizon.net/108.2.117.254)
- start with a You need a blend of experience and youth agreed about the ageing squad but we do have so early good youngsters coming through and Sess coming back helps. I believe quite a few of our older ones will go . The acquisitions will be important , .uniz is still young and so is Smith-Rowe who will improve. (NT) -- Alboy, Tuesday, May 27, 07:38:41pm (host81-141-215-112.range81-141.btcentralplus.com/81.141.215.112)
- If we accept that we are a side that is always in the relegation mix, we have a good enough season, with flashes of very good, and flashes of relegation side. We buy players just like we did when Fayed owned the team. Journeyman with a year or two of good play left in them. That we usually keep you in the league but never fighting for the top...odd great game, just as odd poor performance. (NT) -- RR, Tuesday, May 27, 06:11:35pm (regus.net/50.238.80.70)
- From the perspective of our history, I'm happy. But evaluating the managerial performance I'm not delighted. Thought I would be but can't escape the concern that we've not developed as we should have despite solid backing. 1st season up, we finished 10th on 52 points, 55 goals scored, 52 conceded, +2 goal difference. This season 11th, 54 points, 54 goals scored and conceded, 0 GD. You're right about all those dropped points. You may see the positive in that. I think it asks questions of Marco. (NT) -- eganonoa, Tuesday, May 27, 06:31:21pm (pool-108-18-149-21.washdc.fios.verizon.net/108.18.149.21)
- There's been wafer-thin stat difference between our three prem seasons, but (as an impression), in this one alone did we show against all the glamour clubs. Less happily, none of the big-money signings improved under Marco (a first) while the many past improvers appear, understandably, to have peaked. As for youth, King alone (there is no 'etc') is knocking on the door. Good summer business will kick us on again -- and needs to. (NT) -- b+w g., Tuesday, May 27, 08:15:56pm (68.52.159.143.dyn.plus.net/143.159.52.68)
- Main thing is we turned up at 38 matches with a chance of winning, whereas past teams we would have written off games beforehand vs the big 6 (NT) -- Waterboy, Tuesday, May 27, 09:23:11pm (NoHost/90.243.153.121)
- Who likely to leave -- Samuel, Tuesday, May 27, 02:06:43pm (NoHost/81.78.226.36)
If we assume that Silva's wish list is accurate, and FFP is tight, then clearly players will have to be sold and released to fund the plan. Robinson has been linked with a couple of big moves this season and is a high value asset, so that seems one of the most feasible sources of transfer income. Perreira, Reed, Diop, Willian and Vinicius are also the other expendable features to our squad. Have a feeling Lukic could also be a surprise exit.
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- Re: Who likely to leave: Robinson will stay expect Reed Vinicius Diop to go and possibly Pereira. (NT) -- Alboy, Tuesday, May 27, 02:25:39pm (host81-141-215-112.range81-141.btcentralplus.com/81.141.215.112)
- Why is PSR tight we have had premier league money last 3 years sold 2 players for nearly 50 million each and should have at least 25 million of stansfield money don’t know how we can be close to PSR we should sell our womens team for 100 million to ourselves as well so we should be good for at least 200 million spend (NT) -- Buttoned up, Tuesday, May 27, 03:40:28pm (nmal-23-b2-v4wan-169190-cust1261.vm24.cable.virginm.net/80.5.116.238)
- Because in those seasons we've spent 85% of our total turnover on salaries alone, and have about £60m per year of amortisation to add to that. And we didn't sell either Mitrovic or Palhinha for nearly £50m each, either. After remaining amortisation was removed, both were between £30m and £35m (NT) -- Same Old Story, Tuesday, May 27, 03:53:47pm (85-115-50-2.mailcontrol.com/85.115.50.2)
- I know this is a bit of a, how longs a piece of string question, given lengths of contract, accounting, all manner of variables aren’t known yet, but if you had to take a guesstimate, where would you see our budget being roughly this summer, assuming we get close to FPR limits? Somewhere around last couple of net summer spends of circa £25/£30m? (NT) -- Henry1879, Tuesday, May 27, 03:56:55pm (cpc113812-lea23-2-0-cust213.6-3.cable.virginm.net/86.26.216.214)
- Annoying i know, but net spend isn't a relevant metric, due to residual amortisation. For instance, we could sell Andersen for £24m, and it would only be enough to write back the amortisation remaining. If we sold, say, Robinson for the same amount, it would be £24m straight to profit and ready to spend. But i get what you're asking. I think we could have, if deals are structured well - £80-£100m worth coming in, as long as we sell £25m+ that has no amortisation offset. If that makes sense. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Tuesday, May 27, 05:12:28pm (85-115-50-2.mailcontrol.com/85.115.50.2)
- 15 million of the Stansfield money rising to 22 million with add ons (NT) -- Button, Tuesday, May 27, 03:42:53pm (nmal-23-b2-v4wan-169190-cust1261.vm24.cable.virginm.net/80.5.116.238)
- Joe Willock 114 appearances 14 goals and is on 80k a week a big no from me -- Buttoned, Tuesday, May 27, 12:45:34pm (nmal-23-b2-v4wan-169190-cust1261.vm24.cable.virginm.net/80.5.116.238)
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- Goalscoring stats would fit with our model of buying poor goalscorers (NT) -- Waterboy, Tuesday, May 27, 01:20:56pm (lanc-08-b2-v4wan-168332-cust3678.vm14.cable.virginm.net/80.5.238.95)
- I refuse to believe that we would spend £25mill on Willock with his Achilles injury concerns. I can accept we have interest in the player, has previously played well against us. I suspect £12 mill to £15 mill might be more realistic. In the words of Martin Jol “there is always a problem with players Fulham wish to purchase.” (NT) -- Straw Clutchers Anonymous, Tuesday, May 27, 01:36:44pm (NoHost/90.196.109.134)
- It's the amount of games played that's important. The great Mousa Dembele played 240 odd games in the Premier League and probably just about got into double figures. What a player he was and would have been brilliant in this side. Look at Reiss Nelson's availability. He's been injured for most of his career, Same as Kenny. No point in signing them if they're injured a lot, or not fit. ESR a classic example. Hasn't completed 90 minutes this season (NT) -- Wayne, Tuesday, May 27, 01:57:32pm (host5-81-104-101.range5-81.btcentralplus.com/5.81.104.101)
- Statistics -- Long Termer, Tuesday, May 27, 10:54:42am (host86-182-137-173.range86-182.btcentralplus.com/86.182.137.173)
Some criticism has been raised about Marco's vaunted words about most points in a season - a good statistic nothing more.
However there has been even more criticism about our 'bottom half finish'.
Let's examine a couple of other facts. Brighton won their last 2 games - well done to them. The Liverpool side they beat had already secured the title. Their form since in 4 games zero wins and 2 draws. Liverpool 'rested' the likes of Van Dijk, Alexander-Arnold, Robertson, Diaz etc and played 5 players who have played only 75 games BETWEEN THEM all season.
Brighton then had the advantage of playing a jaded Spurs side 3 days after flying home from winning a major European final, the score-line said it all.
If Brighton had lost those games, and all other results stayed the same, just four points would have separated six very decent clubs (including us) 53 - 56 points.
Some will say it's what we did on the pitch and to a degree I accept that, but with ...
The rub of the green / the bounce of the ball / ref decisions, it could easily have been us in eighth spot. As the cliche goes fine lines / them moments.
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- I'll put a bit more credence on the refereeing thing, as i genuinely think its been absolutely abysmal, and we've had even less of the decisions than usual this year - but the 'luck of the draw' thing with fixtures you mention is straw clutching IMO - we played teams after european games, we played a weakened liverpool side etc. We didnt finish 8th, or in europe, because we repeatedly bottled games (Everton, Brighon, Chelsea, Bournemouth, Villa) in the run in. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Tuesday, May 27, 12:10:53pm (85-115-50-2.mailcontrol.com/85.115.50.2)
- But some of those games you mentioned were influenced by pretty bad luck IMO: Everton somehow scored when we'd been dominating, Brighton v soft pen in 90+ minutes, Chelsea did us in injury time, Villa was a close game, Bournemouth a goal inside the 1st min didf for us. I don't for a minute think we "bottled" games, just looked tired, lack of options for Silva. (NT) -- Jim© The Devon IP, Tuesday, May 27, 01:25:41pm (62-64-192-58.virtual1.co.uk/62.64.192.58)
- that bad luck seems to happen to often to us for it not to be something more than bad luck (NT) -- Same Old Story, Tuesday, May 27, 02:55:46pm (85-115-50-2.mailcontrol.com/85.115.50.2)
- Conceding goals, whenever, irrelevant if it’s 1st or last minute, isn’t down to luck, neither is conceding a pen, it’s least part to errors from our played & coach. We’ve had stuff we gk our way, but fans tend to remember things one way and feel hard done by, stats say we are about right given performances. Decent season (we matched our wage spend), but we fell off at the end despite low injuries and have missed big opportunity in league & cup. (NT) -- Henry1879, Tuesday, May 27, 08:45:33pm (cpc113812-lea23-2-0-cust213.6-3.cable.virginm.net/86.26.216.214)
- This points thing seems to be the new trend, if we got same points last season we’d have done this or that, managers like arteta are at it, it’s like a shield to try and deflect from any shortcomings. It doesn’t matter how mane points you get, all that matters is where you end up in the league, that’s it. Fact is we missed opportunities to finish 8th, or even higher, and finished where we deserved because we had a relatively poor last few months of the season. (NT) -- Henry1879, Tuesday, May 27, 12:25:35pm (cpc113812-lea23-2-0-cust213.6-3.cable.virginm.net/86.26.216.214)
- Fulham being linked with Bruges' ARDON JASHARI... -- m, Tuesday, May 27, 10:07:08am (NoHost/90.213.242.75)
Sounds like he would stiffen up the midfield...
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- Transfers etc. -- Thanks to Stu on fof, Tuesday, May 27, 09:37:52am (0540b459.skybroadband.com/5.64.180.89)
On Sunday I met a very senior Fulham man before the game and not in the Riverside, who should know most of what's going on. I will not name him but you would all know him very well.
I asked him who they have got lined up for us for next season.
He told me the following and was very open and happy to chat.
1. There would not be wholesale changes but Fulham would be recruiting in key areas to strengthen according to Marcos requests.
2. Marco has a very long list of players he would like to choose from.
3. The priorities are 2 wide attackers, a midfield player, a striker and depending whether Kenny signs a right back.
4. Cairney would probably not be going to Wrexham as they could not afford him, they may have money but can't play Premier wages. If Tom wants to go there he would have to accept a pay cut. He expects Tom to be here next season.
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- Add - Was also told they would be working hard with ESR to get him properly fit so he can play 90 minutes. Clearly he has had fitness issues this season and I would expect an improvement next season. (NT) -- fof, Tuesday, May 27, 09:41:55am (0540b459.skybroadband.com/5.64.180.89)
- so 5 or 6 new signings/players ISNT wholesale changes when the total number of the sqaud will be 25 or less. (NT) -- 20% -25% off sale sounds alot?, Tuesday, May 27, 09:47:19am (ns3205739.ip-141-94-194.eu/141.94.194.232)
- If true then that’s very worrying. With diop out of favour and Anderson being such a liability, surely a right centre back is a must. (NT) -- Hg, Tuesday, May 27, 10:42:54am (NoHost/31.94.64.61)
- No.3 is exactly the positions who i would be targeting, plus id sell perreira and find someone there who scores goals (NT) -- Waterboy, Tuesday, May 27, 01:16:55pm (lanc-08-b2-v4wan-168332-cust3678.vm14.cable.virginm.net/80.5.238.95)
- If this accurate, then I'm pleased, but certainly not surprised, that a new striker is on the cards. It's something we desperately need. (NT) -- Samuel, Tuesday, May 27, 01:22:38pm (NoHost/81.78.226.36)
- Home advantage almost hits all-time low -- Sky sports, Tuesday, May 27, 08:36:09am (0540b459.skybroadband.com/5.64.180.89)
the 10 games played on the final day of the season, only two ended as home wins. Home comforts just are not what they used to be.
Home advantage continued to decline this season, with only 40.8 per cent of games won by the home team, compared to 34.7 per cent won by the away team.
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- In our case, decline in home support due to club's policies could be one of the factors. We probably average 60% of home supporters in the stands in the Premier League. Most of Riverside and Putney are away supporters and tourists. There are very few clubs in the world with this ratio of non home supporters in home end at virtually every game. The number of people wearing away kits in home end this season has been the worst ever. (NT) -- Rory, Tuesday, May 27, 08:44:54am (82-132-213-212.dab.02.net/82.132.213.212)
- We don't have the support to fill those areas otherwise we would. (NT) -- Hammersmithender, Tuesday, May 27, 10:49:35am (NoHost/185.111.131.198)
- I know it applies to other clubs to various extents but affordability is a factor. (NT) -- HemelRog, Tuesday, May 27, 11:33:19am (5ec0f8a7.skybroadband.com/94.192.248.167)
- You don't think we've got 25k fans? I'm surprised. I think we've got easily enough fans to fill the ground with 'real' support, but a fair proportion of them can't afford upwards of £1300 for a season ticket or £100 a game. The fact that the club literally capped home season tickets to 15k last year says it all. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Tuesday, May 27, 12:18:29pm (85-115-50-2.mailcontrol.com/85.115.50.2)
- We had 38,000 for the Villa play off, but have we got enough who would attend regularly. My season ticket in the H6 is less than £500 which seems reasonable to me and compared to other prem clubs. Sure if the club reduced the prices significantly we would sell out. Its deciding where that line is drawn between sensible pricing and affordability. Surely less than £25 a game for many of us is acceptable. (NT) -- Hammersmithender, Tuesday, May 27, 12:32:27pm (NoHost/185.111.131.198)
- The seats we're talking about aren't the Hammersmith end season tickets(where i sit, and i agree with you, its reasonable), its the match by match tickets (triple the cost of the 'per match' cost of a season ticket) and the Riverside stand, which holds what, 8000 seats, starting at £1300, for what are effectively restricted view, and go up to £3500. The remainder of the ground holds around 17000 home fans, and, as i've said - the club capped season tickets. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Tuesday, May 27, 03:03:37pm (85-115-50-2.mailcontrol.com/85.115.50.2)
- I guess from results point of view, it would be better to have 15000 of our own supporters plus 2000 away than tourist and away supporters filling up the empty seats. Also club under Khan has done nothing to increase core support as this doesn't go with their business model (NT) -- Rory, Tuesday, May 27, 01:31:52pm (82-132-244-59.dab.02.net/82.132.244.59)
- That "business model" is the "Premiership Model". Those paying high end prices are subsidising the cost of going for most of us. Get rid of the tourists, etc, then we pay more.. (NT) -- Hammersmithender, Tuesday, May 27, 01:49:12pm (NoHost/31.96.38.4)
- Could you name I club where regular season tickets cost £2000 as they do in Riverside? Or which club is charging £72 for a 4 year old child ticket as we did many times in Putney End? (NT) -- Rory, Tuesday, May 27, 02:02:10pm (82-132-244-59.dab.02.net/82.132.244.59)
- Makes my point really. The more the high enders pay the less the low enders pay. Take your pick. Someone somewhere has to pay. (NT) -- Hammersmithender, Tuesday, May 27, 02:47:44pm (NoHost/31.94.74.128)
- Your point about this being the premier league model is completely invalid. We're the only club charging crazy prices and it has been proven many times before the income club gets from hiking up ticket prices is minimal in the scale of the budget and completely unnecessary to complete in this league. (NT) -- Rory, Tuesday, May 27, 03:30:43pm (82-132-231-212.dab.02.net/82.132.231.212)
- We could consider the cheapest season tickets in the prem. At Arsenal it's £1073, at Spurs it's £856, at Chelsea it's £810, at Liverpool it's £713. Our cheapest is about £400. Depends how you look at it. I agree that legacy pricing could be improved. (NT) -- Hammersmithender, Tuesday, May 27, 04:21:08pm (NoHost/31.94.74.129)
- Where can you get an adult ticket in the ground for £400? Mine is in the cheapest block (H8) and is £500, with every renewal discount available? Is that the Family block in the SRE? The proportion of tickets that are in that price range in the ground is minute - probably less than 1000 in total. I'm also not convinced that comparing us to teams that are regularly top 6 pricewise is completely fair. (NT) -- Same Old STory, Tuesday, May 27, 05:24:52pm (85-115-50-2.mailcontrol.com/85.115.50.2)
- I said around £400 and next season my st is costing me £437 in H6. Rory was making his point by comparing St prices between clubs at the high end. I thought it only reasonable to also compare at the lower end to provide a fuller picture. (NT) -- Hammersmithender, Tuesday, May 27, 06:50:07pm (NoHost/31.94.74.129)
- Strange that H8 costs more than H6.. (NT) -- Hammersmithender, Tuesday, May 27, 10:35:20pm (NoHost/31.94.74.129)
- I've had a season ticket in all 4 divisions, but as someone who has moved away, I refuse to pay the insane prices that we charge these days. I now take my son to watch football at a club that doesn't hold its fans in contempt. (NT) -- Ally Mac's Football Theme Park, Wednesday, May 28, 09:26:02am (host86-130-22-220.range86-130.btcentralplus.com/86.130.22.220)
- Is yours a concession? £400 in h6 seems incredibly low. (NT) -- Same old story, Wednesday, May 28, 10:37:32am (NoHost/85.255.236.182)
- It's a senior 65+. I had some credit as well so only had to pay £295. (NT) -- Hammersmithender, Wednesday, May 28, 12:50:16pm (NoHost/31.94.74.128)
- ok, that makes sense, and makes your comparisons above (and to my standard adult ticket) a bit out of kilter. 65+ tickets at Spurs start at £428, Arsenal £603, Chelsea £305, Palace £450, Brentford £340, West Ham £170. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Wednesday, May 28, 02:14:27pm (NoHost/84.65.41.50)
- As a senior who pays £400 for their concessionary season ticket, do you think ~£70 for the cheapest available seats for a huge chunk of our games is reasonable for non-season ticket holders? (NT) -- Ally Mac's Football Theme Park, Wednesday, May 28, 02:18:41pm (host86-130-22-220.range86-130.btcentralplus.com/86.130.22.220)
- VAR must be a factor. If referees are consciously or unconsciously inclined to favour home teams then the knowledge that technology is watching them should act as a counter balance plus of course overturning most objectively wrong decisions. (NT) -- The Man With No Name, Tuesday, May 27, 08:52:21am (host86-191-218-152.range86-191.btcentralplus.com/86.191.218.152)
- Hasn't been many entertaining games this year, where I've come away thinking that was enjoyable. Can think of maybe liverpool/forest and the second half if spurs. That injury time vs Brentford will always stay in the memory! (NT) -- Waterboy, Tuesday, May 27, 09:16:34am (NoHost/90.243.153.121)
- Re: Home advantage almost hits all-time low, it was very apparent during the covid crowd closure days. There was no advantage playing home games. (NT) -- MWKent, Tuesday, May 27, 09:19:10am (host-81-86-162-36.as13285.net/81.86.162.36)
- Dear Watson -- Eerwah, Tuesday, May 27, 02:02:50am (customer.sydyaus1.pop.starlinkisp.net/206.83.119.184)
High level of repetitive and accurate benign passing does not climb top league tables. Minimum touches of suitably weighted through balls into forward space deliver potential of goals.
Once a lead is achieved, it must be underwritten by ability to collectivly park the bus or reaching for the next transition opportunity as per bench/leader directive. ESR looks lost. Andersen diagonal pass mostly not happening for each wing still inside our half. Once ball arrives with Jiminez, much of the time he is already spent.
Primary squad members require entire pre season to technically flourish, confirm their function and keep injuries at bay.
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- Our Ceo of the year everyone -- Teflon Ali, Monday, May 26, 09:02:38pm (NoHost/109.77.60.155)
HMRC investigates 33 football clubs over tax exploit claims
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- Joe Willock set to sign for #FulhamFC £25m Fee -- Fof transfers goss., Monday, May 26, 03:45:57pm (0540b459.skybroadband.com/5.64.180.89)
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- Been awful last couple of seasons and struggled with injuries. I don’t see how he’s an improvement on what we’ve got at this rate we should get Thomas eisfield frimpong and senderos back to complete the Arsenal b team (NT) -- silly silva, Monday, May 26, 04:42:16pm (NoHost/91.239.6.146)
- Re: Joe Willock set to sign for #FulhamFC £25m Fee (NT) -- Got a engine, Monday, May 26, 05:46:34pm (host-2-102-161-56.as13285.net/2.102.161.56)
- Will be yet another mistake. Hopefully it's just baseless rumour. The priority should be a striker. (NT) -- Samuel, Monday, May 26, 05:57:41pm (NoHost/81.78.226.36)
- Must be made up as we usually have 0 signings by the time pre season starts! (NT) -- Waterboy, Monday, May 26, 06:29:57pm (NoHost/148.252.147.134)
- So little creativity in our transfer policy. This is why the likes of Brentford, Palace and Brighton are leaving us behind (NT) -- ., Monday, May 26, 06:56:27pm (77-174-15-131.fixed.kpn.net/77.174.15.131)
- African nations cup dec/jan so we lose Bassey and Iwobi, ESR has fitness problems so whoever we sign hopefully isn’t injury prone! (NT) -- Jack, Monday, May 26, 08:14:41pm (host86-137-85-62.range86-137.btcentralplus.com/86.137.85.62)
- Very very disappointed at the way the season’s tailed off for the second season in a row. A season of exceptionally good results but also major disappointments. -- Straw Clutchers Anonymous, Monday, May 26, 03:25:41pm (NoHost/90.196.109.134)
If TC needs to be let go along with several others to progress, then so be it.
One thing that cheered me up is the subtitles on the extended highlights, who tell us we have Yokey Mandersen at the heart of our defence with Troy Auri on the wing?!?
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- Personally, think this 'highest points tally' mantra being trotted out by Silva is a bit disingenuous... -- k, Monday, May 26, 11:59:29am (NoHost/90.213.242.75)
Definitely a weaker League this year, fact is Coleman, Jol, Hughes and Hodgson all achieved higher league finishes..
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- Did we not finish 7th with our previous highest points total ? (NT) -- Mickey, Monday, May 26, 12:03:14pm (host5-80-69-138.range5-80.btcentralplus.com/5.80.69.138)
- Theres a MAssive Debate on Sky now Merse vs Keane. One says Ten Hag would had WON the EL final and made CL for MU. So the decision to sack TenHag costs MU £100m and CL. Our decision to sign Willian cost us top 8 and FA cup? (NT) -- SAKAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA former ffc youth kid?, Monday, May 26, 12:09:21pm (static-68-235-44-40.cust.tzulo.com/68.235.44.40)
- It's Joachim Anderson who cost us everything this season. Utterly daft signing (NT) -- Angry, Monday, May 26, 12:17:47pm (NoHost/109.77.60.155)
- It's not only Andersen, ESR was a ridiculous purchase too. Berge was perhaps justifiable but it's still a strenuous argument to make. Whoever scouted those players and made the decision to buy them needs to be kept well away from the transfer market this summer. (NT) -- Samuel, Monday, May 26, 12:56:22pm (NoHost/81.78.226.36)
- Silva's on record that he pushed really hard for Andersen and ESR, so that's down to him. Berge's pathetic attempt was his second shot all season, and as for Lukic, he brings nothing to the team. Leno now holds the Premier league record for most goals conceded outside the area in one season, 14. Has to be a lack of cover from midfield. Get Palhinha back and sign Mbeumo. (NT) -- Wayne, Monday, May 26, 01:25:37pm (host5-81-104-101.range5-81.btcentralplus.com/5.81.104.101)
- I vaguely recollect some Everton fans voicing similar concerns about Silva's transfer business. He's a fantastic coach and does on occasion pick a winner, as exampled by Palhinha, although that may have been more luck than judgement. But yes, would like to see Palhinha re-signed. We've got chance with Mbeumo though. (NT) -- Samuel, Monday, May 26, 01:37:39pm (NoHost/81.78.226.36)
- Do you really think Andersen and ESR were "scouted"? High priced, high profile players willing to come to FFC. Silva had to decide if he wanted them and TK whether they could be afforded. No more complicated than that. (NT) -- The Man With No Name, Monday, May 26, 01:46:24pm (host86-191-218-152.range86-191.btcentralplus.com/86.191.218.152)
- Agree. Silva is a great coach but I think there's a respectful argument that he and the team wobbled when the pressure of Europe mounted. Roy achieved far more with much less; Silva has been substantially backed in the market. The league was unusually weak this season and we failed. Simple as that really. (NT) -- Samuel, Monday, May 26, 12:50:45pm (NoHost/81.78.226.36)
- Oh a BIT disingenuous ! (NT) -- A bit of an understatement, Monday, May 26, 09:19:49pm (82-132-215-242.dab.02.net/82.132.215.242)
- Shout out for TC -- Alboy, Monday, May 26, 11:06:27am (host81-141-215-112.range81-141.btcentralplus.com/81.141.215.112)
After a slow first twenty minutes TC for me was the stand out performer yesterday composed on the ball and able to pick out passes. Wilson also had a terrific first half and We should have found an equaliser. Second half penalty apart I thought we were the better side.Pereira should have scored and we created some good chances. Great cameo sub performances from Iwobi Sess S.ith Rowe Josh King and Bergh. Weren't able to get that goal but still a great season. With some good additions we will continue our progress.
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- Well said. We’re FFC not FFS. Silva has created a team greater by far than the sum of its parts. Had some wonderful results and some desperate ones, but sensible additions and were bound to improve further. I despise synthetic cream, Saudi United etc. we’ve an iconic stadium, an excellent coach, and play with a smile. I’ll settle for that (NT) -- Andrew in Bath, Monday, May 26, 11:19:02am (NoHost/90.210.119.115)
- I thought the opposition setup and pace of game suited Cairney having said that he was one of our better players on the day. (NT) -- Gary, Monday, May 26, 11:23:24am (host31-51-137-1.range31-51.btcentralplus.com/31.51.137.1)
- Perreira hasn't scored at home for over 2 years, terrible in front of goal again yesterday (NT) -- Waterboy, Monday, May 26, 06:25:48pm (NoHost/148.252.147.134)
- Happy Tom Cairney Day! -- Rupert, Monday, May 26, 09:23:11am (5ec14d8b.skybroadband.com/94.193.77.139)
Hard to imagine it was 7 years ago - captcha verification just started TC - spooky.
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- The Summer is crucial -- Silva, Monday, May 26, 08:01:56am (0540b459.skybroadband.com/5.64.180.89)
Marco Silva revealed he has already set Fulham’s first team squad the target of beating this season’s points tally as he looks to improve on a sluggish end to his campaign.
The Portuguese head coach reiterated that he will remain in the Craven Cottage dugout beyond the summer after rejecting an approach from Saudi Arabian side Al Hilal and told his post-match press conference following the final day defeat to Manchester City that he has already started planning for the 2025/26 campaign with the Fulham board.
“I’m not here to talk about speculation. I’m under contract with the club, I’ve been planning with the board for next season. We’ve been planning for next season since January. We have hard work to do in the next two months to prepare for the season as best as we can.
It was a great season. It hurts a little bit to not finish in the top half, where we were the majority of the time throughout the season. Firstly, for a historic club like Fulham Football Club, to break the points record speaks [a lot] about ourselves and [the quality] the season. I want more, I’m really ambitious, I’m never satisfied. When we played at our best level, it was very difficult to play against us. [There were] some incredible performances and results. The aim is to be more consistent.
About next season, I’ve already told the players – the summer is going to be crucial. The aim is to beat the 54 points tally. The target is already set. We have to show that on the pitch. The next summer is crucial to prepare ourselves for that.”
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- After every defeat ….. -- HemelRog, Monday, May 26, 07:01:06am (5ec0f8a7.skybroadband.com/94.192.248.167)
It is great to be subjected to the usual over the top negativity from the usual suspects.Yep I know it is a discussion forum but FFS get real.
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- Re: After every defeat ….. (NT) -- Your view on yesterday, Monday, May 26, 07:46:17am (host-2-102-161-56.as13285.net/2.102.161.56)
- Re: yep. So many positives yesterday and yet you come on here and remember we have so many glass half empty fans. (NT) -- Harry Bayles, Monday, May 26, 08:33:19am (NoHost/31.22.15.65)
- Re: After every defeat ….. (NT) -- So many positives I’m confused., Monday, May 26, 08:42:11am (host-2-102-161-56.as13285.net/2.102.161.56)
- LOL I think you have a half glass empty view of people posting on here since the final whistle. I think there has been quite a balanced set of positive and negative postings (NT) -- The Drobe, Monday, May 26, 02:31:57pm (host109-152-208-53.range109-152.btcentralplus.com/109.152.208.53)
- Well said. We were a shambles being ruined by Tony Khan until SIlva came. Everything on the playing side has been consolidating and incrementally improving. The bedwetters really do need to gain a sense of perspective. (NT) -- Mark Latham's One Nation, Monday, May 26, 05:20:48pm (88.216.163.23.manage.catalysthost.com/23.163.216.88)
- Squad needs energising -- Tina Weymouth (bass), Monday, May 26, 01:42:32am (host-2-102-161-56.as13285.net/2.102.161.56)
Completely outclassed first half we looked terrified and players looked relieved when they scored and you knew the game was has good has over, and it’s
Definitely a lot easy to play 1-0 down, a second was around the corner Job done City. Must get pre season recruitment right otherwise I don’t see a improvement in this seasons decent 11th position Definitely settle for a similar berth next season.
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- I actually thought we were ok -- JamieR, Sunday, May 25, 09:54:45pm (241.190.6.51.dyn.plus.net/51.6.190.241)
...apart from the abject first 20 minutes, when we inexplicably rolled over to have our tummy tickled.
After that I thought we played pretty well - much faster transitions than usual, creating multiple chances and on another day could have got a result.
Cariney's control and passing was superb, albeit he inevitably faded. A shame he didn't put that chance away in the first half but if that was his swansong it was a good way to go out. Cuenca I thought was excellent throughout, enough that it should worry Bassey. Wilson always a threat but also should have scored. Pereira buzzing around as normal and in true AP fashion managed to miss two open goals. Sess great when he came on.
We've played much worse in recent weeks.
A weird season. Some incredible moments, and a nagging feeling of a massive opportunity missed.
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- Totally agree. Thought we played well against a very good side. (NT) -- G, Sunday, May 25, 10:18:14pm (NoHost/90.213.242.75)
- +1 (NT) -- Paddington in Peru, Sunday, May 25, 10:22:47pm (NoHost/190.238.57.22)
- My view of the game too. Saved me trying to type some without my glasses on. (NT) -- coulio, Sunday, May 25, 10:24:03pm (NoHost/148.252.145.51)
- Completely agree with the summary of the game today and the season as a whole. Was expecting defeat today but we put up a good fight. A weird season were we have performed better away than at home which I was not expecting. Is that away record our best in the Premier League? (NT) -- JoeT, Sunday, May 25, 10:41:41pm (cpc96906-walt25-2-0-cust362.13-2.cable.virginm.net/82.13.233.107)
- Agree with everything you wrote here, both the match and the season. Thought Sess's cameo was the best he's played. When he and Iwobi came on I thought "those are our two wide forwards next season." (NT) -- eganonoa, Sunday, May 25, 10:57:49pm (pool-108-18-149-21.washdc.fios.verizon.net/108.18.149.21)
- Another one who agrees with your analysis. Mystifying why it took conceding a goal to galvanise us into playing well when we’ve proved all season we can give the top teams a run for their money. (NT) -- Bexhill Beast, Sunday, May 25, 11:06:48pm (host81-136-37-176.range81-136.btcentralplus.com/81.136.37.176)
- Think we could have been where Forest are but you can't argue with that points total and without any really regular goalscorers bar Raul (NT) -- Waterboy, Sunday, May 25, 11:12:11pm (NoHost/90.243.153.121)
- First 35 minutes we were 💩 it was like a pressesion for City we were admiring them and letting them take the Pi$$. After the challenge by King Kenny in the city half the crowd started to get more involved and we started to play better but we are so slow in our transition it is painful backwards side ways no front foot in second half we played more front foot a looked good Ryan session played really well. We need to be clinical when chances arrive (NT) -- Button, Sunday, May 25, 11:43:05pm (NoHost/148.252.141.168)
- ‘The Plan is on the table and the Board are aware ‘ -- Mickey (Mickey), Sunday, May 25, 08:30:18pm (82-132-215-126.dab.02.net/82.132.215.126)
Silva obviously has unfinished business to take us to that higher level . His comment would certainly suggest the hierarchy are on board with what he feels this Squad needs , and it certainly isn’t just renewing a few contracts and making 2-3 new signings . To compete at very least with those around us , our CM imho is where our main focus should be . We are seriously lacking both creativity and pace which all too often has contributed to our slow and at times laboured build-up play . Assuming the following depart Pereira, Cairney, Reed then we are left with just ESR and Josh , unless you want to include Iwobi and Wilson ( if he signs ) as capable of playing there . Then we come to our wingers ; Iwobi and Wilson ( again ), Traore and Sess; accepting Willian will depart . I heard rumours that a ‘top quality ‘ wide man will be targeted as a priority . Finally there are the covering issues at CF and GK, the latter of which should not be too difficult . Equally we should surely be able to replace the poor Vinicius with somebody better , even from the Championship ; just more competition . The above all assumes Robinson will stay and (please God ) Tete will sign . Cuenca and Diop are able CH covers , with the former also covering LB. This shouldn’t be too difficult surely , so will it be Silva who comes up with specific players or will our magnificent recruitment unearth the gems so many of our close competitors seem to find??
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Re: ‘The Plan is on the table and the Board are aware ‘ , yes its the return of Sir Woy and uncle Lew..... its gets older! (NT) -- h a h a, Sunday, May 25, 08:36:42pm (ns3042332.ip-162-19-99.eu/162.19.99.174)
- Going to be a long long summer. More and more of this. (NT) -- Club Stooge, Sunday, May 25, 09:45:15pm (NoHost/90.253.236.191)
- You don’t let someone who is certainly not here long term dictate transfers . Your interpretation of his intentions are based on Zilch . (NT) -- alanos, Monday, May 26, 01:02:09am (82-132-215-211.dab.02.net/82.132.215.211)
- No mention of Silva’s last recruitment splurge whom Mickey obviously doesn’t rate . (NT) -- alanos, Monday, May 26, 01:08:24am (82-132-215-211.dab.02.net/82.132.215.211)
- Embarassing record against Man City -- The Doc, Sunday, May 25, 07:05:30pm (5ec14d8b.skybroadband.com/94.193.77.139)
That was our EIGHTEENTH consecutive loss to them!! How can a team in the same league lose to another EIGHTEEN times in a row??!! I don't think even Real Madrid or Barcelona have records like that against the lesser Spanish sides. We may as well say that although 19 other teams in next season's premiership have 38 matches to play, we only have 36. We have already given the 6 points to Man City
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- ESR -- eXecutionEr, Sunday, May 25, 06:35:43pm (NoHost/31.94.36.82)
Can't remember a player so lacking in confidence. Every time he gets the ball it's the same: control and pass immediately. Never looks to beat a man, or do something positive. He's hiding.
At this stage, looking like a disastrous £30m+ spent. But players can come good in their second season
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- Think it’s a mental block. Until he gets it out of his head that he’s not on loan from Arsenal, we might just see a player in their someday. (NT) -- bs, Sunday, May 25, 07:14:22pm (NoHost/46.233.91.102)
- We need a midfield playmaker who is always available for a pass, brilliantly accurate with free kicks and more than capable of scoring from outside the area. A long throw would also be good. If we can get somebody in to fill that roll, we hardly need to strengthen elsewhere so can spend most of budget on him. We also need a goalkeeping coach who can get Leno to speed up his distribution by at least 50%. (NT) -- Ted White, Sunday, May 25, 07:16:33pm (host31-104-200-63.range31-104.btcentralplus.com/31.104.200.63)
- I know players who played with him at Arsenal. They say he works incredibly hard and is an absolutely exceptional talent but at times lacks confidence. That’s the key to unlocking the potential. Marco (if anyone can) has improved players with us and I dearly hope ESR has the brilliant season we need him to have. (NT) -- Lewis, Monday, May 26, 07:46:43am (NoHost/2.125.115.28)
- Last summer's transfers -- Samuel, Sunday, May 25, 06:12:55pm (NoHost/81.78.226.36)
Is there anyone who can find positives in last summer's transfer business? It feels like today's abject performance brings the reality of that wasteful spending home to roost. The spine of this team needs a rebuild; we're pourous at the back, weak in midfield and toothless up front.
We need better scouting and a responsible eye over frivolous spending on mediocrity.
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- when lukic AND Andersen ARe your best CM and CD -- nigel farage, Sunday, May 25, 06:06:39pm (ns5019341.ip-15-235-118.net/15.235.118.219)
you know youve gone backwards
lukic is no JP
and Diop and Tosin better than... Joa lack of pace is such a horsecollar on the rest of the team
then its Lukic covering for him?
Cuncua no BASSEY...
Adama! if only his easy chance gone past Eddison ot TCs 2 shots had!! games gone and MAJOR changes needed. Sunderland, Leeds wont be getting less than 35 points will they?
12 place again?
TC go you wont be missed.! subbed for the Futrure King?
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- Great season ?? -- Ffc, Sunday, May 25, 06:04:55pm (97e02c8e.skybroadband.com/151.224.44.142)
11th Place
Bottom half
15 wins
14 defeats
Goal difference 0
This season promised so much a couple of months ago but just seems to
of fizzled out …. Not sure what to think really
Not relegated I suppose & looking at the three teams who have come up
we should be ok next season as well …..
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- At the Cottage, poor to be frank. On the road, results wise, very good. Shame I only attended home fixtures this season. (NT) -- Beano Reader, Sunday, May 25, 06:14:50pm (82-132-214-165.dab.02.net/82.132.214.165)
- Most fans on here think that this has Beene great season as we hit 54 points just shows the club doesn’t need to invest cos most will larp it up and be happy to just exist in the prem until another season comes where we go down (NT) -- averagely poor, Sunday, May 25, 06:47:38pm (NoHost/185.111.157.137)
- We are a bottom table team once again. Zero progress from last season. We will battle relegation next season. Likes Wolves did this season. (NT) -- RR, Sunday, May 25, 08:07:50pm (NoHost/104.220.143.92)
- If Fulham win more games than lose in the Premier League I would call that a decent season (NT) -- JoeT, Sunday, May 25, 11:06:39pm (cpc96906-walt25-2-0-cust362.13-2.cable.virginm.net/82.13.233.107)
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Emile never pass it forwards -- DOF, Sunday, May 25, 06:04:24pm (ns5019341.ip-15-235-118.net/15.235.118.219)
never seen a player pass it sidewards and backwards more than him
at least in Sess. now into his final year
and Joke King, is he contracted?
ass a fit wilson . 1 year left
at least... we have a bright (short) future...
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- Sunderland fan -- //, Sunday, May 25, 04:53:46pm (NoHost/31.94.6.213)
Stuck a five on the Mackems, Watson scoring (he'd scored 2 all season and was on the bench for both semis) and a yellow card (a 95th minute winner will probably get one of those).
Came out with £1630.
Well done lad.
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- shads programme noted . Shads bigging up the Soon to Open Riverside. -- gunner jones, Sunday, May 25, 01:27:08pm (ns3189953.ip-135-125-108.eu/135.125.108.219)
But has he 'missed a trick'
Anfield has Abseiling down the Stand
St James has Ziplinging inside
Spurs has 'Cock' viewpoint
Fulhams new pier wont have any of these attractions.
Also. Why doesnt Fulham hire River Barges for matchdays to host more 'fanzones' . The pull of Riverside fanzone for fans 'not paying £100' a seat surely would draw alot more to arrive early and spend money on a pint and pie.
Heck FFC could do its own 'Riverboat pre match booze cruises' just another money maker not on offer to Fulham fans.
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- Fulham reportedly lining up Wolves manager Victor Pereira in case Silva leaves... -- dd, Sunday, May 25, 11:31:51am (NoHost/90.213.242.75)
According to red-tops...
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- KDB -- J, Sunday, May 25, 08:15:40am (NoHost/185.61.158.246)
🎶 “You’d look good in white. You’d look good in White. Kevin DeBryne. You’d look good in White.” 🎶
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- A reply to Dangerous (probably Desperate) Dan below -- Long Termer, Sunday, May 25, 07:53:53am (host86-182-137-173.range86-182.btcentralplus.com/86.182.137.173)
Dangerously mental if you think any of the above facts you quote are true.
Roberts has just been a journeyman and played in the Championship for a fair bit, never got going elsewhere with a top club.
Carvalho agree - good player, we didn't reject him he wanted to go with stars in his eyes. Three prime years of his career now wasted and also couldn't cut it at a top club.
O'Reilly you may have a point but a lot of his rave reviews were at Celtic a standard overall akin to our Championship and despite his early injury, I haven't heard of too many stand-out performances on Match of the Day.
Elliott wasn't ours in the first place, didn't want to stay and another who chased the glory. How many years now? 6 years and he's really just a bit-part player at Anfield, and possibly not the greatest professional attitude.
If you add Ryan Sess to that, we have made around £50m from those players - who's had the better outcome, probably FFC
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- London Pride -- Beer Man, Sunday, May 25, 03:15:46am (NoHost/103.214.46.9)
How are Brentford able to advertise beer when they score? I thought that was banned
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- great ! another fulham reject gets PL football .. while Marco wills Club to re-sign ageing Willian -- Danagerous Dan, Sunday, May 25, 01:11:31am (ns3232026.ip-37-59-18.eu/37.59.18.241)
Former Fulham accademy players in PL next season
Rats Poberts
Fabio Carvalhio
Pat O'Reilly
Harvey Elliot
All better than legs gone...?
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- Fulham get a bid in for Gustavo Hamer -- Button, Saturday, May 24, 05:13:41pm (cpc121148-nmal24-2-0-cust131.19-2.cable.virginm.net/77.100.25.132)
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- Totally agree. He was Championship player of the year and he completely ran the game today until he went off injured. It was at that point that Sunderland were lifted and saw a chance. However how the Blades lost that match will be really tough for their supporters to take. I fear for them for next season now with a halving of their parachute payments etc. Definitely a good time to get Hamer, sheer class. (NT) -- The Doc, Saturday, May 24, 06:46:00pm (5ec14d8b.skybroadband.com/94.193.77.139)
- He's a class player. (NT) -- GA, Saturday, May 24, 07:07:42pm (ool-18b90125.dyn.optonline.net/24.185.1.37)
- Re: but does anyone here really think Hof watches matches? Live or delayed?. Hof does though get a stats report on players. Will it flag up hammer? (NT) -- Plenty 💯, Saturday, May 24, 07:23:11pm (customer.lndngbr1.pop.starlinkisp.net/216.128.29.106)
- i've never been convinced that the powers of interest take as much notice as the fans do. Lazy f*****s on a nice paycheck. My rant for today. (NT) -- CB, Saturday, May 24, 08:06:47pm (213-18-176-223.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.176.223)
- Gustavo Hamer rarely plays 90 minutes, bit like Cairney. (NT) -- Birdman, Saturday, May 24, 08:49:46pm (host-194-168-26.117.not-set-yet.virginmedia.net/194.168.26.117)
- Another we were linked to when at Coventry, same as Gykores (NT) -- Waterboy, Saturday, May 24, 09:42:38pm (NoHost/84.67.210.3)
- He was outstanding in that game - real quality. His record from midfield wasn't too shabby in top flight either; surprised he didn't get snapped up when Sheffield United were relegated. (NT) -- Samuel, Sunday, May 25, 02:02:03am (NoHost/81.78.226.36)
- Haydock 3:00 -- Ffc, Saturday, May 24, 10:41:15am (97e02c8e.skybroadband.com/151.224.44.142)
Ain’t Nobody …..
Be around 9/1 ish
Will be running in at the finish
Good E/W bet
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- I would take a punt and put in a bid for Tommy Conway from Middlesbrough I like the cut of his jib 22 years old and plays off the shoulder of the last defender reminds me alot of Bowen when he was at Hull -- Button, Saturday, May 24, 08:21:01am (nmal-23-b2-v4wan-169190-cust1261.vm24.cable.virginm.net/80.5.116.238)
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- Also like the look of Alejandro Jesús Gomes Rodríguez he looks really good for the England U17 he is at Lyon (NT) -- Button, Saturday, May 24, 08:48:55am (nmal-23-b2-v4wan-169190-cust1261.vm24.cable.virginm.net/80.5.116.238)
- Thing is we don’t really play ‘off last shoulder of defender’.: much as I’d like us to . Bowen was exactly like that on destroying us with Hull, let alone his scoring ability. Would our recruitment ‘lower’ itself to look at young Championship players ??? (NT) -- Mickey, Saturday, May 24, 10:14:12am (82-132-230-240.dab.02.net/82.132.230.240)
- We need to delve into the championship more wouldn’t hurt also just saw that Everton are rumoured to be in talks with delap wonder if we would be able to tempt him could be a great stepping stone for him and show he can do it in the prem and it wasn’t just a fluke (NT) -- coyw, Saturday, May 24, 01:30:52pm (87-120-102-5.madcom.al/87.120.102.5)
- Ivanovic at Millwall, a younger, faster version of Mitrovic could be worth a punt (NT) -- MWKent, Saturday, May 24, 01:53:33pm (host-81-86-162-36.as13285.net/81.86.162.36)
- A Millwall Fan I know said he has all the attributes , albeit he is occasionally prone to missing ‘sitters ‘. But do you really think the Son of a Billionaire would go shopping ( even for ‘spares ‘) in Bandit Territory? Bear in mind also that Millwall found Esse, an exciting young prospect who was then snapped up ( and already played for ) Palace. It’s just not on TK’s agenda ; better instead to give Silva total control then proclaim you want him to stay ‘forever ‘. (NT) -- Mickey, Saturday, May 24, 04:28:14pm (NoHost/86.188.232.146)
- It's going to be a long long summer on this forum. (NT) -- Club Stooge, Saturday, May 24, 09:55:49pm (NoHost/90.252.98.140)
- Mickey is either very dumb or very conniving . Why would you give a manager any control over the transfers if he won’t extend his contract by at least a year or two . Failure to do that implies he just wants to play his contract out , leave on a free and take the players he wants with him . Do I need to say who? (NT) -- alanos, Saturday, May 24, 10:46:07pm (82-132-214-179.dab.02.net/82.132.214.179)
- For all Mickster’s gobshit about Billionaires sons who is most likely to have the interests of the club at heart , the actual f&cking owner or an ambitious manager who we know hopes to move on , if not this year then very soon , and who may see his interests already lie in helping his next club rather than his current one .Marco is a great and sought after manager . We need to get Muniz contract extension . That’s the basis for a good window .lll (NT) -- alanos, Saturday, May 24, 10:56:07pm (82-132-214-179.dab.02.net/82.132.214.179)
- For all Mickster’s gobshit about Billionaires sons who is most likely to have the interests of the club at heart , the actual f&cking owner or an ambitious manager who we know hopes to move on , if not this year then very soon , and who may see his interests already lie in helping his next club rather than his current one .Marco is a great and sought after manager . We need to get Muniz contract extension . That’s the basis for a good window .lll (NT) -- alanos, Saturday, May 24, 11:09:59pm (82-132-214-179.dab.02.net/82.132.214.179)
- We could have gone for Bowen all those years ago, same as Gykores (NT) -- Waterboy, Saturday, May 24, 04:48:03pm (NoHost/85.255.235.54)
- Willian to become a coach at FFC? -- G, Friday, May 23, 03:56:37pm (NoHost/109.144.19.239)
Silva says Willian will probably be in the Fulham squad for last time on Sunday.
But cryptically says he'll be having conversations with him...
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- Milwall to be taken over by Turki Alalshikh are the rumours must be exciting for there fans -- Button, Friday, May 23, 02:25:18pm (nmal-23-b2-v4wan-169190-cust1261.vm24.cable.virginm.net/80.5.116.238)
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love-in ... their fans can sport tea-towels ove their heads instead of the burberry caps them! (NT) -- white shirts tomb, Friday, May 23, 02:28:05pm (ns5019346.ip-15-235-118.net/15.235.118.222)
- Spends most his time ringside chatting and kissing fellas on the cheek (NT) -- Will go down well at Millwall, Friday, May 23, 03:03:38pm (NoHost/2.125.10.30)
- That's great news for them. He's certainly delivered on the boxing platform and isn't timid when it comes to delivering on ambition. Plenty of cash and will probably attract major sponsorship to limit FFP restrictions. (NT) -- Samuel, Friday, May 23, 04:27:03pm (NoHost/81.78.226.36)
- Worth doing a bit of research on Turki before getting too excited by the Saudi dollar, he has a prison wing named after him as anyone who criticises him on social media has ended up there. He’s not part of the royal family; was effectively a civil servant who’s made his way up being ruthless, screwing people over and his arch rival is the Al-yaman, the PIF owner of Newcastle. Murky world. (NT) -- Henry1879, Friday, May 23, 10:02:01pm (82-132-221-68.dab.02.net/82.132.221.68)
- Replica Shirts and assorted Adidas brand related overpriced clothing -- Jonathan Baines, Friday, May 23, 05:46:49am (NoHost/51.179.207.214)
Surely it is about time that Fulham ditched the 'Adidas' deal, ripped it up and pay any get out clauses and started their own
Fulham/Jacksonville Jags branded sports clothing lines and sort Cambodian/Vietnam/Thailand/Malaysia/China supply chain lines. Replica clothing and assorted t's, polos, training wear etc. etc. could be sourced at top quality, reasonably priced, marked up sensibly say 25-50 percent and sold to fans say at £30 for a replica shirt - also become the first EPL club to have no paid for sponsorship, but to chose each year a world leading charity say ' medicins sans frontieres (MSF) for 2025/26 season and carry their logo for the season free of charge! The Kudos and sports paragraphs that would generate would far outweigh any deal we could possibly have with the 'gaming industry' - bye, bye SOBET!
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- Marco Silva (This will wear well and into next season or crash and brn after Sundays' game with City) -- Jonathan Baines, Friday, May 23, 05:27:52am (NoHost/51.179.207.214)
He has been dangled the money before and I don't think - I maybe wrong - money motivates him. He likes the club, he had a portfolio of all the squad when he went to Shad Khan asking about the vacancy. He buys into 'what being part of the Fulham family is all about' Yes we may have a 'glitzy new stand and wealthy people living on the doorstep who don't get football - but unwittingly by visiting the restaurants, bars, shops etc on non-matchdays they increase massively the non football related income that the club generates for more than 330 days a year unless we have European Football or good domestic cup runs.
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- I just don't believe the glitzy stuff will 'massively' increase the revenue. It will absolutely add a revenue stream, and thats great, but it won't be more than 10% or so of our current revenue stream and thats if it does exceptionally well. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Friday, May 23, 09:33:57am (85-115-50-2.mailcontrol.com/85.115.50.2)
- 10% of revenue (gross...then deduct costs) indeed a tall order for so long as a) we are in the Prem b) broadcasting deals stay so high. Would greatly gain signficance in The Championship and become 'gamechanging' if ever lower still. Which is why those who remember those days do not rush to sneer at it, just put it in context.. (NT) -- b+w g., Friday, May 23, 10:17:37am (68.52.159.143.dyn.plus.net/143.159.52.68)
- TV deals and central commercial deals are not in their hands, and certainly from a domestic level are reaching a max level (overseas still room to grow). Fans demand investment and improvement, need to generate revenue to do that. We’ll never be able to build a 70k stadium and fill it, so makes sense to go down a different route, bit of a USP, if a little unpalatable for traditional fans, may see it open advertising/marketing opportunities too as FFC seen as ‘luxury’ brand. (NT) -- Henry1879, Friday, May 23, 12:14:28pm (cpc113812-lea23-2-0-cust213.6-3.cable.virginm.net/86.26.216.214)
- Just enjoy having the best ground in the country in the best location - Clay and Bulstrode - and even Fayed - had other ideas. (NT) -- Rupert, Saturday, May 24, 07:24:30am (5ec14d8b.skybroadband.com/94.193.77.139)
- Formal Notice of Impersonation - Cease and Desist -- Moat and Sons, Friday, May 23, 12:05:19am (NoHost/62.197.148.86)
Dear Forum Members and Moderators,
We act on behalf of our client, Mr. Mick Angel of Barnes, and write to formally raise concern regarding recent posts made on this forum under his name.
It has come to our attention that an individual is currently posting content while falsely presenting themselves as Mr. Angel. We are instructed to make clear that these communications are not authored by our client, nor have they been approved or endorsed by him in any capacity. The unauthorised use of Mr. Angel's identity constitutes a clear case of impersonation, and may give rise to further legal consequences should it persist. We request that the individual responsible cease and desist immediately from posting under the name "Mick Angel" or otherwise suggesting any affiliation with our client.
We further request that forum administrators take appropriate steps to identify and restrict the offending account, and to prevent further misuse of our client's name. We trust this matter can be resolved swiftly and without escalation.
Sincerely, Moat and Sons. Legal Representatives of Mr. Mick Angel, Barnes, London
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- My musings before Fulham v City -- Mick Angel of Barnes, Thursday, May 22, 08:12:03pm (cpc118432-lanc9-2-0-cust954.3-3.cable.virginm.net/86.25.135.187)
I first met Pep at a dinner party in the hills above Barcelona — a Rioja - soaked affair where the cheese board arrived with its own string quartet. He was wearing a black rollneck, naturally, and spoke with the calm authority of a man who sees football as a form of higher mathematics. “Positional play is like chess,” he told me, I agreed, though I did point out that most chess players don’t spend £50 million on a left-back.
City, of course, don’t just play football—they conduct it. Watching them is like watching royal ballet—if the ballet had £2bn in Qatari funding and full-backs inverted like origami swans. But here is the thing - Guardiola’s evolution is far from over. I’ve heard whispers (from a Catalan sommelier I trust deeply) that next season will see City deploy a back-two formation based on the ancient Roman Testudo. I, for one, cannot wait.
As for us — Tom Cairney’s swan song, and there will be emotion. I first met Tom at a gallery opening in Shoreditch—he was quiet, stood without a drink, admiring a Damien Hirst spot painting. “I like the structure,” he said. I replied, “So does Marco Silva.” He chuckled.
We’ll miss him. But Sunday isn’t for sentiment. It’s for spectacle. I’ll be on the Sky Deck again, naturally—sipping another Jiménez Margarita, and nodding solemnly as Pep stalks the touchline like a Catalan monk in exile.
For what it is worth, I predict draw. What about you?
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- Seriously, am I the only one who thinks this is just a pile of sh*te? (NT) -- Straw Clutchers Anonymous, Thursday, May 22, 08:20:09pm (NoHost/90.196.109.134)
- Pathetic crap. (NT) -- HemelRog, Thursday, May 22, 08:58:36pm (5ec0f8a7.skybroadband.com/94.192.248.167)
- Love it, personally. Serious creativity (NT) -- Paddington in Peru (:-)), Friday, May 23, 03:45:44am (NoHost/190.238.57.22)
- In the words of the Kaiser Chiefs ( the third best thing out of Yorkshire behind Sir Geoffrey Boycott and Yorkshire Tea) I predict a riot! (NT) -- Jonathan Baines, Friday, May 23, 04:58:09am (NoHost/51.179.207.214)
- Fabulous and just what this forum needed. While you’re on the Sky Deck, could you also persuade Dragan, Salad Dodger and Len (Happy) to make a return? Plus maybe the guy who annoyed everyone by constantly using the term ‘Gloveman’. Thanks in advance! (NT) -- Dullard, Friday, May 23, 06:08:52am (NoHost/136.226.168.176)
- WHAT ABOUT BLACKBURN KING (NT) -- shh, Friday, May 23, 06:27:16am (NoHost/80.233.48.203)
- Whats the difference between Mick Angel and Him/Her? Are they in fact the same person? (NT) -- Hammersmithender, Friday, May 23, 11:14:51am (NoHost/185.111.131.198)
- seriously entertaining, keep it up! (NT) -- Ivor, Friday, May 23, 01:35:30pm (NoHost/161.30.201.48)
- And while we're at it, anyone know where Babygro Man is? (NT) -- Paddington in Peru, Friday, May 23, 04:40:25pm (clients.v5167.cusco.gpon.pe/200.215.229.167)
- Bring back Orm and the headless Barry Hayles. (NT) -- FulhamStu, Saturday, May 24, 09:14:04am (NoHost/90.193.221.235)
- Marco Silva -- Jt20, Thursday, May 22, 04:53:10pm (47-148-43-93.lsan.ca.frontiernet.net/47.148.43.93)
I see this topic keep coming up with Marco Silva possibly leaving to Saudi, does the board actually let him go without a replacement. We all know when you bring in a new manager he 90% changes the team play and brings in players he wants. Yes we have stumbled this season but we have maintained our status in the premier league. We really don’t know the status of our financial situation with being within the fair play rules, but in my view I would keep Marco and give him the opportunity to got get the players he wants to keep this momentum going. We lasted 13 years in the premier league back in the turn of the century and I like most of you intelligent supporters would to like to keep this going. If you change managers at least give him the full transfer window to work with.
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- I may be mistaken, but didn't the latest report claim that Silva has turned Saudi down to remain in Europe? Added to that, his recent comments regarding the plan to push Fulham forward suggests he's going to stay. He said the board knows what needs to be done and it's an ambitious plan. Silva must be aware of the club's financial position so it's unlikely he would make unrealistic demands. (NT) -- Samuel, Thursday, May 22, 05:11:00pm (NoHost/81.78.226.36)
- Some on here will go on and on about Nottingham Forest’s success relative to Fulham and their heart throb bearded owner ( I don’t see it either ) However a motivated Muniz giving his all every game would have seen us finish above Forest . That’s the sad fact of the matter . (NT) -- alanos, Thursday, May 22, 10:02:37pm (82-132-215-118.dab.02.net/82.132.215.118)
- Yes I did post before about Marco staying but recently I read another article that he hasn’t ruled out going to Saudi league, if I knew how to post links to follow up my information I would do so. (NT) -- Jt20, Friday, May 23, 01:52:15am (47-148-43-93.lsan.ca.frontiernet.net/47.148.43.93)
- Don't think we can afford to let him go (NT) -- Waterboy, Friday, May 23, 08:55:57pm (NoHost/84.67.210.3)
- A Terrible Game Last Night! -- Fulham Man, Thursday, May 22, 02:36:02pm (host-78-148-190-194.as13285.net/78.148.190.194)
The Europa game last night was the worst final I've ever seen. No invention, poor technique, slow build ups and both teams afraid of taking the initiative. An awful advert for the PL. The best league in the world! Not on that performance. A truly dreadful display.
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- What I found strange is that albeit against a poor Utd side offensively , Spurs were able to dig in and defend in numbers . Something which has been absent from their PL Season, presumably by choice . I think them winning is more detrimental to us , seeing as a defeat would’ve put them back a good couple of seasons at least . There really should be a stipulation that whilst you keep the Trophy , the rewards should not be granted for such a low PL position (NT) -- Mickey, Thursday, May 22, 02:49:01pm (82-132-230-219.dab.02.net/82.132.230.219)
- Barcelona v Inter was in a diferent league and worth the exorbitant prices that fans have to pay these days. (NT) -- Fulham Man, Thursday, May 22, 03:39:05pm (host-78-148-190-194.as13285.net/78.148.190.194)
- Seem to remember when Ange was under fire about poor results, his normal retort to journos was ‘look mate I’m never going to change the way I play’ . Fast forward to more defensive tactics against Eintracht and United and he gets a trophy. Shocking game as OP says and awful goal to win with but a trophy is a trophy. (NT) -- Jack, Thursday, May 22, 04:17:37pm (host86-137-85-62.range86-137.btcentralplus.com/86.137.85.62)
- Re: A Terrible Game Last Night! Agreed, but it’s odds on now with several bookies that Ange remains in charge early doors next season. Meanwhile Marco’s odds to Spurs have plummeted to such an extend that Thomas Frank & Scott Parker are now hotter prospects. (NT) -- Bad Boy, Thursday, May 22, 06:32:39pm (NoHost/2.222.160.125)
- Scott Parker managing Spurs, oh yes please, that would be the funniest thing ever (NT) -- Martin Jolly, Thursday, May 22, 08:02:00pm (NoHost/85.255.233.98)
- I think they will leave the current manager in charge , with the intention to fetch Marco either during the next season , or at the end . (NT) -- alanos, Saturday, May 24, 11:08:14pm (82-132-214-179.dab.02.net/82.132.214.179)
- Wrong, its an awful advert for the Europa League competition. That our very bottom of the table teams were in the finals says how great the PL actually is when we can send our sludge and dominate the competition. (NT) -- RR, Thursday, May 22, 07:39:14pm (NoHost/104.220.143.92)
- Tubes on Sunday -- .., Thursday, May 22, 01:16:51pm (host86-190-239-41.range86-190.btcentralplus.com/86.190.239.41)
This from tfl:
Piccadilly line
Saturday 24 until Monday 26 May
No service between Hammersmith and Cockfosters, including during Friday and Saturday Night Tube
Use alternative Tube services or local bus routes. Rail replacement buses will run. This is due to track work.
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- I need one more ticket for Sunday, any available? Thanks -- Paul, Thursday, May 22, 12:04:44pm (NoHost/90.204.0.85)
I need one more ticket for Sunday, any available? Thanks
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- Hello World -- Long termer, Thursday, May 22, 10:17:00am (host86-182-137-173.range86-182.btcentralplus.com/86.182.137.173)
Is there anybody out there
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- The Jiménez Margarita & the New Cradle of Opulence – A Night at Fulham’s Riverside Stand -- Mick Angel of Barnes, Thursday, May 22, 09:40:27am (cpc118432-lanc9-2-0-cust954.3-3.cable.virginm.net/86.25.135.187)
Rodrigo Muniz rang last week and whispered, “Mick, you simply must experience the Sky Deck at Fulham,” I cleared my calendar (and my conscience) faster than a Russian oligarch in a tax audit.
What awaited me at Craven Cottage was not the Fulham of old. No, the new Riverside Stand is less ‘football ground’ and more floating Mayfair. It glistens like a champagne flute on the Thames—gleaming glass, sweeping steel, and a fragrance of lacquered oak and lightly truffled air. You don’t just arrive here. You make an entrance.
The Sky Deck—ah, the Sky Deck—is a celestial sort of thing. Elevated like a Brahms crescendo and filled with lighting so flattering I nearly proposed to my own reflection. The canapés were, of course, sculptural. A quail egg suspended in beetroot jelly. A single langoustine dancing with caviar. Wagyu so soft it practically wept.
I first tasted The Jiménez Margarita last Friday night, during a private unveiling for friends of the club. Now I’ve sipped mezcal with a prince in Oaxaca. I’ve had margaritas made with tears of joy and agave older than the Magna Carta. But this—this was something else.
It is not so much a drink as it is an event—a theatre of citrus and smoke, a pilgrimage in a glass. I had four.
So here’s my advice, fellow supporters. Don’t visit the new Sky Lounge expecting football. Expect revelation. Expect chandeliered lavatories and oysters poached in saffron air. Expect a Margarita that outperforms entire wine lists.
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- Great to have you posting again Mick. (NT) -- Harold Romer, Riverside Suite., Thursday, May 22, 09:55:51am (host-2-96-179-111.as13285.net/2.96.179.111)
- Suddenly I feel nauseous. (NT) -- Left wing, Thursday, May 22, 09:56:26am (NoHost/80.233.48.203)
- Re: The Jiménez Margarita & the New Cradle of Opulence – A Night at Fulham’s Riverside Stand -- GoAway, Thursday, May 22, 09:56:35am (jd27-r41.mojohost.eu/185.94.236.118)
- Brilliant stuff. (Echoes of Ostrich Watch?) (NT) -- Alfred E Neuman, Thursday, May 22, 10:09:20am (NoHost/31.94.38.221)
- Brilliant. Not quite the same unless you tell us where & when you first met Rodrigo and what you bonded over. And no sign off at the end. Still a good effort though. (NT) -- Wolfie Smith, Thursday, May 22, 10:10:06am (94-30-83-200.xdsl.murphx.net/94.30.83.200)
- Not bad at all, but still keen to hear the story about how you first met Rodrigo at the party at the Mexican Embassy honouring Freida Kahlo. (NT) -- GTS, Thursday, May 22, 10:59:26am (0545288c.skybroadband.com/5.69.40.140)
- Superb (NT) -- Keep these musings coming..., Thursday, May 22, 11:14:15am (NoHost/90.213.242.75)
- FFS don’t encourage him. (NT) -- PuerileRog, Thursday, May 22, 11:38:07am (NoHost/31.94.13.3)
- I bloody love Mick Angel! have really missed it. Really puts into perspective how tedious and low quality characters like the fake woke twat are. Can someone get Big Dave back too please? (NT) -- SW, Thursday, May 22, 12:35:18pm (cos2-04-b2-v4wan-171525-cust1783.vm10.cable.virginm.net/82.10.46.248)
- So much better than old Hynotic Harry or whatever he's called. At least Mick's Funny. (NT) -- Wolfie Smith, Thursday, May 22, 01:28:26pm (94-30-83-200.xdsl.murphx.net/94.30.83.200)
- As a woke virtue signaller who falls for every globalist narrative, I too don't find it funny when fun is made out of woke virtue signallers who fall for every globalist narrative. (NT) -- Remainer Dad, Thursday, May 22, 02:31:08pm (unn-79-127-181-179.datapacket.com/79.127.181.179)
- Your ways with words have clearly inspired marketing copywriters at FFC. (NT) -- b+w g., Thursday, May 22, 02:49:14pm (68.52.159.143.dyn.plus.net/143.159.52.68)
- Welcome back Mick. Love it. (NT) -- Dullard, Thursday, May 22, 07:40:05pm (NoHost/136.226.168.176)
- Well done! (NT) -- RR, Thursday, May 22, 07:44:17pm (NoHost/104.220.143.92)
- i understand that you designed the riverside Mick but were let down by the builders . when i look at the stand i see a canvas , (NT) -- glosswhite, Thursday, May 22, 07:49:46pm (NoHost/90.209.230.111)
- Welcome back champ (NT) -- Polecat - The Voice of Reason, Friday, May 23, 02:52:09am (NoHost/63.70.5.32)
- Absolutely dreadful -- eganonoa, Thursday, May 22, 12:09:53am (pool-108-18-149-21.washdc.fios.verizon.net/108.18.149.21)
That Europa League final really showed why those two teams were at the bottom of the table. Terrible stuff.
Hate to say it, but I couldn't but watch and think that Marco would be perfect for either team.
Simply cannot understand how Amorim gets to stay on at Man U. While he doesn't have the profile, Marco's tactical flexibility and skills at revitalizing broken assets is absolutely ideal.
Meanwhile, while I'd be surprised if Postecoglu actually lost his job given the energy he brought them last year even after losing Kane, if he does the fact that they're in the Champions League would surely guarantee Marco wanting to leave if they truly are interested in him.
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- Spurs have just ascended the football equivalent of the long ladder in 'Snakes & Ladders'. To me that's all wrong. On a par with Oldham beating York this week in the National League play offs, in spite of finishing 23 points behind them in the league. But those are the rules. (NT) -- Mr Kurkuruza, Thursday, May 22, 07:31:46am (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
- Dreadful, ok with Spurs win, absurd if Utd had won 3 trophies in 3 seasons being as bad as they are, plus Arsenal fans are the most intolerable lot going these days, anything that winds them up is good. Something deeply wrong at Utd which makes good coaches/players become bad, Amorim will rightly be given time, hasn’t even had a summer yet. Ange I’m not sure on, had bad injuries, but he’s had time and to regress this much is awful, ultimately they didn’t beat anyone good in Europe. (NT) -- Henry1879, Thursday, May 22, 07:58:39am (cpc113812-lea23-2-0-cust213.6-3.cable.virginm.net/86.26.216.214)
- Ultimately they won a European trophy , That is all that matters no matter who they played . (NT) -- Lovely weather, Thursday, May 22, 08:27:51am (0540b459.skybroadband.com/5.64.180.89)
- I expected Man U to win, the less worse of two appalling teams, and clubs, but pleased the others did, they may at least allow Ange to start the season, and see how things go. If they do get rid, as is still more likely, will they not be looking for Chumps League experience, rather than someone such as Marco, who would still be quite a gamble? (NT) -- Rupert, Thursday, May 22, 09:40:50am (5ec14d8b.skybroadband.com/94.193.77.139)
- This will developed into a European league which they have been pushing for .maybe 2 divisions how it would work leave to uefa. ? . (NT) -- Lovely weather, Thursday, May 22, 09:41:20am (0540b459.skybroadband.com/5.64.180.89)
- And yet United did the double over us! (NT) -- Neil G, Thursday, May 22, 12:42:36pm (NoHost/62.232.247.75)
- Yes Neal, how embarrassing for us losing both games to Man Utd when they have only won 10 league games all season. (NT) -- MWKent, Thursday, May 22, 01:59:56pm (host-81-86-162-36.as13285.net/81.86.162.36)
- Do you see a trend ? -- Tina Weymouth, Wednesday, May 21, 01:06:08pm (host-2-102-161-56.as13285.net/2.102.161.56)
Mitro. JP. Jedi next ? Sell major asset prior to start of season invest and to try strengthen all areas of Team. Certainly Brighton have consistently improved doing very much similar.
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- Only if Robinson leaves, is he? (NT) -- GTS, Wednesday, May 21, 01:14:56pm (0545288c.skybroadband.com/5.69.40.140)
- Re: Do you see a trend ? (NT) -- Well I wouldn’t be surprised., Wednesday, May 21, 01:20:26pm (host-2-102-161-56.as13285.net/2.102.161.56)
- Cant see him moving, too old to get a big fee IMHO. Maybe Saudi (NT) -- Al, Wednesday, May 21, 01:35:06pm (NoHost/193.17.86.154)
- That’s how every club outside the top handful in the world operates, the problem is we don’t have many big assets. Robbo is one of the best LBs in Europe, but teams who’d pay what we’d want (35m+) are unlikely to pay it due age, fact he has played a huge amount last few years and is so reliant on physicality he’s likely to deteriorate in his performances in not too long. We have no guehi/eze/wharton/baleba/pedro/huijsen to command a 50m+ fee. (NT) -- Henry1879, Wednesday, May 21, 02:46:24pm (cpc113812-lea23-2-0-cust213.6-3.cable.virginm.net/86.26.216.214)
- Yes it must be great to have such highly desired, young players from a financial perspective, but the fans of Bournemouth must be gutted to lose their gifted left back after only one season in their colours. How likely is it that they will find better, or even as good? Although i am aware that player broke into the first team when their regular centre back was injured. (NT) -- Mr Kurkuruza, Wednesday, May 21, 03:32:35pm (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
- Argh, I'm getting mixed up between the Kerkes and Huijson. Having done that, they are both on their way out according to the rumours. (NT) -- Mr Kurkuruza, Wednesday, May 21, 03:35:48pm (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
- We’ve spent circa £30m net last few summers, not miles off PSR limit, if we don’t make a big sale we have peanuts to spend. Only reason we’ve signed good players last few windows is due palhina, stan & mitro sales. Also good to show we are a good opportunity for young players, do well and you’ll get your big move, everyone wins. From a fan view, most understand the food chain of football, palace FA cup, BHA Europe, where we want to be, using that method. (NT) -- Henry1879, Wednesday, May 21, 03:50:11pm (cpc113812-lea23-2-0-cust213.6-3.cable.virginm.net/86.26.216.214)
- Final home game -- The Drobe, Wednesday, May 21, 11:38:22am (host109-152-227-143.range109-152.btcentralplus.com/109.152.227.143)
Our last 6 final PL home games = W0, D2, L4, GF5, GA17. Lets hope this particular bad run comes to an end on Sunday.
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- Reward for Failure -- Fulham Man, Wednesday, May 21, 11:26:31am (host-78-148-190-194.as13285.net/78.148.190.194)
Tonight Spurs play Man U in the Europa Cup Final while being 16th and 17th in our league. Previuosly, clubs who were knocked out of the Champions League played in this competition. That is no longer the case so the competition is weaker, making it easier for PL clubs with their disproportionate amount of money, dubious state owners and asset stripping of continental clubs so they become nursery clubs. Sportswashing football is about the best business brands having an easy pathway. Neither club deserves to be in the CL if they win. Manchester United in particular is a very arrogant badly run club which has constantly failed over the last decade, yet they have an air of misplaced assumption becuase of money. A truism but football is business first, sport second and supporters last.
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- Romano reckons Wilson won’t play on the extended contract option take up. He’ll either sign a longer term deal or be sold. -- Straw Clutchers Anonymous, Tuesday, May 20, 08:23:54pm (NoHost/90.196.109.134)
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- I like Wilson but I don't think he'll ever be much more than a bench player under Silva. He's still reasonably young and has plenty of ability so could be a useful source of transfer income for the club. Could see him going to somewhere like Burnley or Leeds for £15 mill (NT) -- Samuel, Tuesday, May 20, 08:35:02pm (NoHost/81.78.226.36)
How we ever gonna beat Brentford again? (NT) -- SCA, Tuesday, May 20, 09:06:47pm (NoHost/90.196.109.134)
- We need good bench players , and injuries also make bench players starters . You for your own reason clearly want a big churn , when a body of players who know one another’s game is clearly an advantage . But then how would agents earn their money ( big bucks ) (NT) -- alanos, Tuesday, May 20, 11:12:29pm (82-132-212-142.dab.02.net/82.132.212.142)
- And who says Silva will even be here next year . And 6 goals often winners in the equivalent of 10 games is hardly shabby (NT) -- alanos, Tuesday, May 20, 11:31:17pm (82-132-212-142.dab.02.net/82.132.212.142)
- Considering the price of players now, absolutely no way we sell Wilson for £15m. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Wednesday, May 21, 10:11:03am (webdefence-pool-02.cluster-lonb.forcepoint.net/85.115.53.202)
- Jack Kelly who covers Fulham and spoke to Harry said its not true. (NT) -- Jim © (The Devon IP), Tuesday, May 20, 09:06:56pm (host86-177-136-171.range86-177.btcentralplus.com/86.177.136.171)
- How can you not play on a contract? What does this even mean? The club has a year option, which we’ve taken up, he’s under contract and registered to play for us. Therefore someone either pays a fee which we thinks he’s worth and he can move on, or they don’t and he plays for us. (NT) -- Henry1879, Tuesday, May 20, 09:40:34pm (cpc113812-lea23-2-0-cust213.6-3.cable.virginm.net/86.26.216.214)
- Front line either side of No9 as 60min.sub, Wilson will always do well. (NT) -- Eerwah, Wednesday, May 21, 03:15:39am (customer.sydyaus1.pop.starlinkisp.net/206.83.114.60)
- Brentford will be in for him, to save them from more heartbreak in their two cup finals next season. (NT) -- Dom(TO), Wednesday, May 21, 09:20:52am (NoHost/62.49.30.158)
- He can't seem to score a normal goal, either a wonder strike or a header! (NT) -- Waterboy, Wednesday, May 21, 09:37:31am (NoHost/84.67.210.3)
- Re: Romano reckons Wilson won’t play on the extended contract option take up. He’ll either sign a longer term deal or be sold. (NT) -- Harry looked well happy to have signed on Sunday, Wednesday, May 21, 12:48:10pm (host-2-102-161-56.as13285.net/2.102.161.56)
- Seth -- Henry, Tuesday, May 20, 05:10:50pm (NoHost/2.222.50.115)
Seth Ridgeon captain of England under 17, live on BBC Iplayer now, playing Belgium.
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- silva was after him a couple on back -- Sky news, Tuesday, May 20, 03:44:39pm (0540b459.skybroadband.com/5.64.180.89)
Everton midfielder Abdoulaye Doucoure has announced that he will leave the club when his contract expires this summer.
Doucoure signed for Everton in September 2020 and has made 167 appearances, scoring 21 goals.
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- Breaking... Sparkless to remain at Carlisle... -- Rupert, Tuesday, May 20, 02:06:16pm (5ec14d8b.skybroadband.com/94.193.77.139)
He has finally found his level!
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- Re: Breaking... Sparkless to remain at Carlisle... (NT) -- Knew he was in a different league, Tuesday, May 20, 03:48:09pm (host-2-102-161-56.as13285.net/2.102.161.56)
- Actually they had a few decent results when he took over (NT) -- Waterboy, Tuesday, May 20, 04:16:26pm (NoHost/84.67.210.3)
- Would you have wanted to work under an octogenarian Egyptian nonce? Did a good job here, did a good job at Carlisle, refreshing that someone of his status prepared to go to Solihull moors to manage. Good guy is Mark, needs re-evaluation. (NT) -- Greenpole, Tuesday, May 20, 05:06:27pm (82-132-234-27.dab.02.net/82.132.234.27)
- Re: Breaking... Sparkless to remain at Carlisle... (NT) -- Treated Fulham with no respect back to bite arse, Tuesday, May 20, 11:08:54pm (host-2-102-161-56.as13285.net/2.102.161.56)
- Re: Breaking... Sparkless to remain at Carlisle... (NT) -- Players saved he’s position at Fulham, Tuesday, May 20, 11:10:54pm (host-2-102-161-56.as13285.net/2.102.161.56)
- This summer’s dealings -- Henry1879, Tuesday, May 20, 12:58:12pm (cpc113812-lea23-2-0-cust213.6-3.cable.virginm.net/86.26.216.214)
I don’t know the detail of where we are at PSR wise and what it allows us to do this window, but it’s not brilliant, so I’ll go with a 30/40m net spend, similar to last couple of seasons.
GK - nobody is gonna take Leno, not on his wages, so I think we’ll stick with, I do also think he offers a lot of intangibles, leadership and a good presence at the club. We have more pressing issue and think he’s improved last few weeks.
Defenders - Anderson we are now PSR married to, as nobody would pay anywhere near what we did, so he’ll be our RCB next season. RB, one of tete or cast to leave, both solid prem players, but neither is offering much offensively, tete gets injured a lot, fans love his fight and combative nature, but schade had him on toast a bit, either way, 1 of those 2 to go and a younger more athletic RB to come in to complement. Diop to move on, I like him, but he’s on too much to often not even make the squad, 8-10m hopefully, younger player to come in at RCB. Bassey, Cuenca, sess, Robbo happy with.
Midfield - AP to go, maybe 15-20m fee, reed a few mil, replace with a couple (maybe only one if silva is happy with where king is) of younger, fresher midfielders. Lukic, berge ok with, cairney I’m edging towards another year, to save money for elsewhere. ESR I hope will grow with a pre season and confidence.
Attack - Muniz, Raul happy with, between them they’re providing good output and quality from the CF role. Iwobi, Wilson, traore ok with, splash some cash on a really exciting young attacker who can play down the middle if need be. If money permits I’d stretch to 2 younger attackers who can learn from iwobi, Wilson etc before taking over.
I think next season is gonna be really tough, we’d do well to finish 9-12th again, Leeds will spend, wolves will be better, palace think better, although europa may hurt them, utd ans spurs will spend and surely be better. Chelsea amd city will come again, even arsenal will be stronger, Liverpool will spend big, Bournemouth will have big money after their sales, Brighton have a lot of improving young players.
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- Wolves likely to lose their best player.Vultures probably circling at Selhust.Promoted teams will have to make some big signings.Personally think we are in a pretty good place.Some decent young players coming through. (NT) -- HemelRog, Tuesday, May 20, 01:21:55pm (5ec0f8a7.skybroadband.com/94.192.248.167)
- I think you make a lot of assumptions on what players are "on" and how it compares to the market. Transfer fees we generally get a decent sense of, but player wages and contract terms are opaque. Also, in that regard, of the value of moving a player on and replacing (e.g. reports are that Man U have 20% of Andreas sell-on). Every year the complaint from Marco is he hasn't had a full pre-season. Give him that by keeping the squad together as much as possible. Consistency is its own upgrade. (NT) -- eganonoa, Tuesday, May 20, 01:29:30pm (pool-108-18-149-21.washdc.fios.verizon.net/108.18.149.21)
- 2 Central midfielders , 2centre forward 1right back 1 left back 2 wingers and a back up keeper is needed plus if Wilson and Diop leave we need replacements (NT) -- Button, Tuesday, May 20, 02:08:45pm (nmal-23-b2-v4wan-169190-cust1261.vm24.cable.virginm.net/80.5.116.238)
- The answer is Cairney (NT) -- Silva., Tuesday, May 20, 03:24:58pm (0540b459.skybroadband.com/5.64.180.89)
- Re: This summer’s dealings (NT) -- The young Lad Seth in the U18s looks class, Tuesday, May 20, 04:00:27pm (host-2-102-161-56.as13285.net/2.102.161.56)
- I'd say we need 6 players providing Tete stays. GK/CM/CAM/Wingers x 2/ Striker, the 5 attacking players need to have career stats averaging more than 5 goals a season as we are getting no help from those positions. Cairney/Berge/Lukic/Traore/Nelson/Reed have offered no goals threat all season (NT) -- Waterboy, Tuesday, May 20, 04:21:52pm (NoHost/84.67.210.3)
- Seeking 5 or 6 incumbents is unrealistic. I think we need a nippy striker & winger to compliment the squad & agree with some points above but understand that Tom Cairney wishes to stay & I'd most certainly keep him. Slowing yes but he still is real class. If we strengthen strategically, we'll be ready for another successful campaign. (NT) -- Fufoanac, Tuesday, May 20, 06:09:28pm (NoHost/90.194.211.57)
- I know fees have increased but given his age and stats I’d be astonished (pleasantly so) if we got anything like that for Pereira. But attacking midfield is definitely a priority position to strengthen unless it’s thought King is first team ready. (NT) -- Bexhill Beast, Tuesday, May 20, 06:59:43pm (host31-49-27-255.range31-49.btcentralplus.com/31.49.27.255)
- Its a strange situation when you factor in Silva's recent comment about an ambitious plan to push the club forward. He appeared to suggest the board aligned with his vision. Perhaps there's more 'Wriggle room' than expected or 2 or 3 players are being sold off to raise funds: Andreas, Diop, Robinson and (perhaps) Muniz. Could be £80+ million from that lot. (NT) -- Samuel, Tuesday, May 20, 07:29:38pm (NoHost/81.78.226.36)
- Well, absolute priority is some legs in central midfield. It's a disaster when either Berge or Lukic are out. We also need at least 1 winger, someone who can play in ACM and a RB (I'm OK with Tete extension). I would lose Pereira, Diop (good player but he's 3rd or 4th choice on big wages), Reed and Vinicius ofc. Cairney might be worth another year as (NT) -- Magic Matt, Tuesday, May 20, 10:29:04pm (97e211ab.skybroadband.com/151.226.17.171)
- So assuming 2 per position: Leno/Benda (would like better): Tete/Castagne, Andersen/Bassey/Cuenca/NEW, Robinson/Sess: Berge/Lukic/NEW/Cairney: Smith-Rowe/NEW: Iwobi/Traore/Wilson/NEW: Jimenez (NT) -- Magic Matt, Tuesday, May 20, 10:34:20pm (97e211ab.skybroadband.com/151.226.17.171)
- Muniz. Another option up front would be nice, but they're not getting many minutes so would have to be a young unproven striker (like Muniz was) (NT) -- Magic Matt, Tuesday, May 20, 10:37:41pm (97e211ab.skybroadband.com/151.226.17.171)
- Re: This summer’s dealings (NT) -- Andersen good player though pace has regressed, Tuesday, May 20, 11:14:16pm (host-2-102-161-56.as13285.net/2.102.161.56)
- I'm in two minds about Tete. He has been injured a lot so a younger player could offer more attacking threat down the RW as we've been much more effective down the LW with Robbo and Alex. But Tete is an ace defender who comes into his own against the bigger clubs when fit. It might come down to whether he'll agree to a shortish contract (and wouldn't offer longer than 1-2 years due to injuries). (NT) -- Magic Matt, Wednesday, May 21, 10:11:09am (NoHost/147.161.143.100)
- Very peculiar season... -- G, Tuesday, May 20, 12:17:57pm (host81-133-110-86.in-addr.btopenworld.com/81.133.110.86)
Last season (23/24), Arsenal finished in second place, winning 15 more matches than Fulham (28 wins to Fulham's 13). Fulham finished 13th.
This season, Arsenal finish second again, but this time only win four more matches than Fulham during the season (19 wins to Fulham's 15).
Can't help thinking that in a much more congested league table, and despite FFC finishing with a club record points tally, a huge opportunity has been missed!!
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- 9th -- TT(1), Monday, May 19, 10:07:53pm (82-71-26-54.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/82.71.26.54)
Is that Conference League?
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- No that is season over but best points ever in the prem and what a great season it has been (NT) -- Fulham steve, Monday, May 19, 10:12:52pm (NoHost/176.24.25.139)
- Points deduction for city! Never been so desperate for a trip to Kazakhstan. (NT) -- Greenpole, Monday, May 19, 10:18:52pm (82-132-232-77.dab.02.net/82.132.232.77)
- This whole points thing is embarrassing brentford have that best comfortably we’ve got some big scalps and a few doubles but overall this season has been disappointing considering where we were in feb/march (NT) -- nearly a great season, Monday, May 19, 11:33:56pm (87-120-102-203.madcom.al/87.120.102.203)
- Its been our best season ever away from home in the PL but at home its been hugely disappointing. We have lost 6 at home, 5 to teams below us, only beaten 2 teams in the bottom 10 and have a negative goal difference at home. So its not a great season overall when you take into account our home record. (NT) -- The Drobe, Monday, May 19, 11:59:55pm (host109-152-227-143.range109-152.btcentralplus.com/109.152.227.143)
- hopefully next season we can have good home and away form and go one step further next season! (NT) -- nearly there, Tuesday, May 20, 09:54:14am (NoHost/149.86.36.6)
- Overall it has been a great season obviously, our best league season in the top division ever since we first got there in 1949-50. Home advantage has lessened for every team this season, the game has changed. But the frustration is that we were great against the bigger teams, and poor against the lesser ones. So it could have been even better, but swings and roundabouts and all that. (NT) -- Pablo, Tuesday, May 20, 11:07:06am (host81-157-196-54.range81-157.btcentralplus.com/81.157.196.54)
- It will be 7th unless Chelsea finish 7th and win conference league (NT) -- Waterboy, Tuesday, May 20, 08:03:06am (NoHost/84.67.210.3)
- We were a bit unlucky with the fixtures, swings and roundabouts, I know, but Ipswich away when they were still flying in dreamland and even in the home match, when they still had real hope... form and effort has since gone off a cliff, Southampton home when they were trying to impress the new manager, it really can come down to just how the cards fall such as Thurs/Sun, or Wed/Sat opponents. Good season overall, with plenty to build on this summer. (NT) -- Rupert, Tuesday, May 20, 10:29:34am (5ec14d8b.skybroadband.com/94.193.77.139)
- Re: 9th (NT) -- Reporting a Crime West Ham’s 4 points off us., Tuesday, May 20, 12:50:48pm (host-2-102-161-56.as13285.net/2.102.161.56)
- N remotely FR -- Andrew in Bath, Monday, May 19, 09:33:05pm (NoHost/90.210.119.115)
My annual and only flutter ie an accumulator (correct term?) on eventual winners of playoffs. I’m going for Sheffield & Charlton (based on form) and Wimbledon based on sentiment. Any advice welcome! Whatever I win (yeah; right) goes to charity
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- Did Charlton for promotion back in August so still holding on to hope! (NT) -- Waterboy, Tuesday, May 20, 08:04:07am (NoHost/84.67.210.3)
- Sunderland, Orient and Wimbledon all sentimental! (NT) -- Jonathan Baines, Tuesday, May 20, 09:25:04am (NoHost/51.179.196.81)
- Re: N remotely FR (NT) -- Go Os after Nathan Jones melt down, Tuesday, May 20, 12:53:01pm (host-2-102-161-56.as13285.net/2.102.161.56)
- Best ever PL points accumulation. Not much comment on this so far. I'd argue this is as worthy an achievement than qualification for a very much 3rd rate european competition. Danny Murphy was a little aggrieved that his Fulham team were usurped by the current one. But comparing the 2 squads, who would be in a combined first 11? -- Mr Kurkuruza, Monday, May 19, 06:33:46pm (92.40.168.242.threembb.co.uk/92.40.168.242)
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- Schwarzer, tete, hangeland, Bassey, Robbo, Bullard, Murphy, Berge, Dempsey, Zamora, Iwobi in a 4-3-3. Raul, Muniz, pantsil and hughes not far away. Overall feel our squad is stronger now, Roy really did maximise what he had with his tactical acumen and rigid structure. (NT) -- Henry1879, Monday, May 19, 06:49:29pm (cpc113812-lea23-2-0-cust213.6-3.cable.virginm.net/86.26.216.214)
- Could never break up with H&H partnership at the back, but would do anything I could to keep Bullard off the team sheet. Never a fan. Love the choice of 2-goal Zamora given all we hear on here about no natural goalscorers upfront. He was a beast regardless of goals. Personally, I'd take our starting 11 this season, swap in only Scwharzer, Murphy in the No. 8 and Dempsey (on left with Robinson overlaps, Iwobi right so Tete can tuck in) and watch us merrily sitting comfortably 3rd in the table. (NT) -- eganonoa, Monday, May 19, 07:03:19pm (pool-108-18-149-21.washdc.fios.verizon.net/108.18.149.21)
- Hughes was a good player, don’t get me wrong, but Roy’s rigid, deep 4-4-2 made CBs look really good, there was little chance of getting exposed or drawn out wide, I wanna be more attacking than that and like basseys athleticism next to brede. Bullard in for set pieces, gets goals and assists, makes stuff happen, plus doesn’t stop running, Berge and Murphy hold the fort behind. Duff class player, not much between him and Iwobi. (NT) -- Henry1879, Monday, May 19, 07:45:10pm (cpc113812-lea23-2-0-cust213.6-3.cable.virginm.net/86.26.216.214)
- I don't think Bullard was in the '53 pointers', but Duff was, and I'm surprised he was not included in your selection. (NT) -- Mr Kurkuruza, Monday, May 19, 07:18:33pm (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
- Full-backs get in. The Etuhu position ought by rights to be vulnerable, and I suppose Berge or Lukic get it, but more by default than acclaim. Some fairly close-run choices elsewhere, but I'd probably stick to the blokes that did, after all, have a big occasion success record. (NT) -- b+w g., Monday, May 19, 06:58:11pm (host81-159-15-98.range81-159.btcentralplus.com/81.159.15.98)
- Schwarzer-Tete-Hughes-Hangeland-Robinson-Duff-Murphy-Berge-Dempsey-Gera-Zamora (NT) -- Waterboy, Monday, May 19, 07:31:21pm (NoHost/84.67.210.3)
- Re: Best ever PL points accumulation. Not much comment on this so far. I'd argue this is as worthy an achievement than qualification for a very much 3rd rate european competition. Danny Murphy was a little aggrieved that his Fulham team were usurped by the current one. But comparing the 2 squads, who would be in a combined first 11? (NT) -- Simon Davies for me., Monday, May 19, 07:58:45pm (host-2-102-161-56.as13285.net/2.102.161.56)
- I would go similar to most: Schwarzer, Tete, Hangeland, Diop, Robinson, Murphy, Lukic, Davies, Iwobi (early season form!), Gera/Wilson, Zamora. Really surprised that Bassey gets chosen, he's big, combative but passing is poor and he gets run at and turned too much for my liking. (NT) -- Jim© The Devon IP, Tuesday, May 20, 09:22:03am (62-64-192-58.virtual1.co.uk/62.64.192.58)
- Re: “Not much comment on this so far” That’s because the loud voices on this board are mostruoso sel-opinionated naysayers (NT) -- The Ghost, Tuesday, May 20, 10:21:24am (host86-152-44-221.range86-152.btcentralplus.com/86.152.44.221)
- Feel like there is a bit of recency bias here, players would also look very different under respective managers (for instance Koncheskey could thrive in the Silva system). I'd personally go Schwarzer - Tete - Hangeland - Hughes - Koncheskey - Murphy - Lukic - Dempsey - Duff - Davies - Zamora (NT) -- Same Old Story, Tuesday, May 20, 11:16:16am (NoHost/84.65.41.50)
- Not sure its recency-bias. If we're sticking to comparing the two sides when they made their record points totals then we can't have Duff unfortunately. Konchesky over Robinson is bold, to say the least, given his 10 assists this season. As is Davies over Iwobi given his 9 goals and 6 assists. No matter how good he was that year, it's hard to choose 2-goal Bobby. To me its stunning what such a limited team achieved in 2008/9. So I'd have fewer of the players, but flip the manager. (NT) -- eganonoa, Tuesday, May 20, 01:37:32pm (pool-108-18-149-21.washdc.fios.verizon.net/108.18.149.21)
- I agree, there’s some emotional bias with some players due to Europa final, great escape etc, but that doesn’t change their individual ability. To have konch over Robbo is interesting, Robbo seems to just not be able to win some over for some reason, despite other fans saying he’s been about a good a LB in the league all season. Individuals better this season, but Roy and the timing of it all created something far far greater than the individual abilities of his players. (NT) -- Henry1879, Tuesday, May 20, 02:05:59pm (cpc113812-lea23-2-0-cust213.6-3.cable.virginm.net/86.26.216.214)
- I don't think Koncheskey for Robinson is bold at all. Better defender, and offered plenty of threat and (gasp) a few goals going forward. Would have been decent under Silva. Not so sure about Robbo the other way. Duff - fair point. Davies, I'd have in all day every day, he was a fantastic player, and far more reliable than Iwobi. Always a 7. But each to their own (NT) -- Same Old Story, Tuesday, May 20, 03:20:25pm (NoHost/84.65.41.50)
- by the way (in terms of AR and AI) i don't think goals and assists are the only metric. Robinson got 2 assists and Iwobi two goals for two crosses which everyone in the middle missed and the ball ended up floating in at west ham, for example. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Tuesday, May 20, 03:22:22pm (NoHost/84.65.41.50)
- I don’t get this defensive thing about Robbo, he’s seriously good, you can leave him 1v1 with a saka or salah and he very rarely loses out, v.high interception & tackling stats back it up, he very rarely gets beaten at back post. His weakness is technically and can switch off, although much rarer now, but he’s a brilliant defender, no way konch would be able to defend 1v1 like Robbo can, albeit he was defo a better technical player. (NT) -- Henry1879, Tuesday, May 20, 04:28:58pm (cpc113812-lea23-2-0-cust213.6-3.cable.virginm.net/86.26.216.214)
- Can't agree about Konchesky for Robinson. Robinson is so far and above anything I've ever seen an full-back for us. Understand what you're saying about Davies. I absolutely loved him. But Iwobi terrorizes teams in a way Davies didn't and puts in excellent defensive work even on his off days. With no Duff, I'd be open to Iwobi-Dempsey-Davies, particularly as one of our big failings this year is no regular width down the right (NT) -- eganonoa, Tuesday, May 20, 07:27:24pm (pool-108-18-149-21.washdc.fios.verizon.net/108.18.149.21)
- I always felt that PK had an error in him leading to a goal conceded - though you may disagree. For the same reason, I was not surprised he did not last at Liverpool, thought internal politics were probably not helpful to him there. (NT) -- Barry@ENF, Wednesday, May 21, 01:04:42am (cpc95104-newt39-2-0-cust313.19-3.cable.virginm.net/77.101.245.58)
- whats this -- fulhamoldfart, Monday, May 19, 05:25:55pm (cpc160099-nmal26-2-0-cust468.19-2.cable.virginm.net/82.18.161.213)
Why are cup finals being played before the season ends ? what nonsense is this The FA cup and Europa league final both played before the final league games ????
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- European Qualification - Just to be clear -- Same Old Story, Monday, May 19, 02:03:03pm (NoHost/84.65.41.50)
Incredibly, for us to make Europe (conference league) next season, we need particular results in 7 (possibly 8) of the remaining 13 Premier League games. For us to get in, the following need to happen.
Tonight - Brighton to get no more than a point vs Liverpool.
Tomorrow - City need to beat Bournemouth (a draw might be enough but would 'reactivate' Bournemouth).
Final Day - Fulham HAVE to beat City
- Forest HAVE to beat Chelsea
- Villa need to win or draw at Man Utd
- Brighton need to lose or draw at Spurs
- Brentford need to lose or draw at Wolves
- If Bournemouth get anything from the city game, they would then need to lose or draw vs Leicester.
Quite the accumulator, that.....
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- Marco has a blindspot for some managers (Gary O'Neil for instance). Marco's results vs Guardiola: played 14, lost 14. No manager has anywhere near that kind of record. Dean Smith has played 7 lost 7. That's the next worst. Of the 253 managers anywhere in football that have played against Guardiola, Marco has played him the 8th most times. He has so far and away the worst record against him that its hard not to think that it goes beyond resources. (NT) -- eganonoa, Monday, May 19, 02:17:41pm (pool-108-18-149-21.washdc.fios.verizon.net/108.18.149.21)
- Aaaaand after all that Chelsea lose to Betis. Might be the finest example of fulhamish in our nigh 150 year history (NT) -- Greenpole, Monday, May 19, 02:23:07pm (82-132-233-18.dab.02.net/82.132.233.18)
- An immensely entertaining thread. Wonder how this is being priced. (NT) -- b+w g., Monday, May 19, 02:49:23pm (host81-159-15-98.range81-159.btcentralplus.com/81.159.15.98)
- About 1,000/1. Leicester were longer odds when they won the Prem. (NT) -- Magic Matt, Monday, May 19, 05:26:54pm (97e211ab.skybroadband.com/151.226.17.171)
- Just to be even more clear... (and the only problem with an otherwise sure-fire bet).... if Brighton draw both matches and everything else transpires, then we'll need to beat City by more than one goal. (NT) -- b+w g., Monday, May 19, 05:59:03pm (host81-159-15-98.range81-159.btcentralplus.com/81.159.15.98)
- And that was that...! (NT) -- Travelex, Monday, May 19, 10:07:02pm (cpc104102-brig22-2-0-cust617.3-3.cable.virginm.net/82.9.38.106)
- fell at the first hurdle! (NT) -- The Drobe, Monday, May 19, 10:10:59pm (host109-152-227-143.range109-152.btcentralplus.com/109.152.227.143)
- Away/King -- JamieR, Monday, May 19, 12:41:08pm (82-132-215-116.dab.02.net/82.132.215.116)
I note we are 5th in the away league table (albeit some teams still have their final game to play) and yesterday was our 8th away win - is this a record number in the top flight? I don't think we've ever had that many in my time watching i.e. Premier League era.
What a shame our home form hasn't matched those heights. West Ham, Wolves, Southampton, Ipswich, Everton.. the points that have gone begging really doesn't bear thinking about. We could have had the season Forest had. Then again, at half time yesterday I thought we'd been woeful and could only envisage a 3-1 or 4-1 defeat and a fully deserved bottom half finish... so maybe not.
What about Josh King? That was the most promising I've seen - great energy, balance/skill in possession, involved in both goals and some very useful contributions in the last ten minutes too when we were closing the game out. One occasion only where I thought he missed an obvious ball across to Jimenez in loads of space - but even then perhaps arguably he made a sensible decision to recycle possession instead. Enough to hope anyway that he might be a bonus boost to the squad next season
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- Robbo related -- FoF goss, Monday, May 19, 10:25:01am (0540b459.skybroadband.com/5.64.180.89)
Understand Liverpool have contacted Bournemouth for Milos Kerkez deal with talks now advancing!
Liverpool are also completing the agreement on personal terms with Kerkez, keen on the move.
Negotiations underway between clubs on transfer fee.
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- Kerkez to Liverpool seems nailed on. Not sure where else that means Robinson could go that he would deem enough of a step up - won't go to Arsenal, Chelsea don't need a left back, think City would want younger. United? Villa? abroad? (NT) -- Kenny, Monday, May 19, 11:38:04am (97e42664.skybroadband.com/151.228.38.100)
- Not sure Robbo will get bids from another prem team which he is worth to us. Teams know he has had a lot of minutes since he’s joined us, travelling to USA and back, relies so much on his physicality, red flags for a potential signing who isn’t a youngster. The big teams generally want younger now, 25 and under, just don’t see anyone paying the 40m+ fee, although I thought that about mitro and palhina so what do I know. (NT) -- Henry1879, Monday, May 19, 01:09:46pm (cpc113812-lea23-2-0-cust213.6-3.cable.virginm.net/86.26.216.214)
- Still buzzing. -- //, Monday, May 19, 09:56:08am (cpc83661-brig20-2-0-cust519.3-3.cable.virginm.net/82.28.106.8)
I've read so much criticism about so many of our players over the last few weeks across several boards, X etc. I'm glad that a lot of those proved their doubters wrong yesterday.
Apparently Leno, Robbo, Joa, Timmy C, TC, Berge, Sasa, AP, Raul, Traore and Harry aren't good enough for some. Fair enough, opinions and all that, but several of those put in top performances against the bus stop.
At half time I couldnt see us getting level, let alone winning, but Marco's subs, also oft criticised, turned the game around.
The end of the season hasn't panned out as we'd have liked, but sometimes you have to take solace where you can, and beating one of the local rivals is a good enough consolation for me.
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- I've always said 10th, might yet be 11th but a record total can't be knocked, got to add some natural ability in front of goal (NT) -- Waterboy, Monday, May 19, 10:52:41am (NoHost/148.252.140.190)
- Re: Still buzzing. (NT) -- Can’t compare this to CFC away win., Monday, May 19, 11:37:31am (NoHost/31.94.72.49)
- In the first half we looked distinctly slow and cumbersome in parts of our defence and in central midfield compared to them. King and Wilson changed that markedly. Need more energy and pizzazz and that generally speaks to lowering the average age. (NT) -- WayneKerrins, Monday, May 19, 12:36:20pm (pool-108-2-117-254.phlapa.fios.verizon.net/108.2.117.254)
- Double Diamonds work wonders. -- HemelRog, Monday, May 19, 09:08:11am (5ec0f8a7.skybroadband.com/94.192.248.167)
Have we ever achieved four doubles in the top flight?Either old first division or premier.Strange season but some of the negativity is beyond pathetic.Yep the fade hasn’t been great but overall a good season.OK to be ambitious and would have been nice to have got over the line but let’s look on the positives.
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- End of season Ratings: Our rating of everything Fulham -- DOF, Monday, May 19, 08:32:01am (ns3213672.ip-141-94-249.eu/141.94.249.205)
Owner: 8/10
CEO: 2/10
Manager: 7/10
Assistant Manager: 2/10
DOF: 3/10
Players: 7/10
Fans: 9/10
CC: 6/10
Enjoyment level: 7/10
Satisfaction level: 7/10
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- CEO 1/10, fans 6/10 (we need to be noisier) i have not enjoyed this slump so 6/10 for the enjoyment and satisfaction (NT) -- View from the Riverside, Monday, May 19, 09:43:42am (NoHost/78.143.161.23)
- loads of mutes around me yesterday, looked like tourists but how do they get tickets, maybe players tickets.? (NT) -- ivor, Monday, May 19, 09:47:25am (cpc115884-addl5-2-0-cust2008.6-3.cable.virginm.net/86.25.183.217)
- Unpopular take. I don't get the Ali Mac pelters. He's not hired to be cuddly and fluffy or to give us all that we demand. He's there to be hard headed and run a business. (NT) -- //, Monday, May 19, 10:04:21am (cpc83661-brig20-2-0-cust519.3-3.cable.virginm.net/82.28.106.8)
- OK, so he's there to run a business. Who are the customers? Got to be the fans hasn't it? Yet he regularly goes out of his way to insult some of the longest standing customers - not good business. (NT) -- Beano Reader, Monday, May 19, 10:27:19am (82-132-213-197.dab.02.net/82.132.213.197)
- he is not doing a good job of running the business. the stand was a fiasco (NT) -- View from the Riverside, Monday, May 19, 12:06:59pm (NoHost/78.143.161.23)
- Are you new on here //:? Teflon couldn't run a bath. Old squad on high wages, riverside delay fiasco, ticketing shambles, alienates fans and supporters groups. He's a grima worm tongue of a CEO:. (NT) -- WayneKerrins, Monday, May 19, 12:40:55pm (pool-108-2-117-254.phlapa.fios.verizon.net/108.2.117.254)
- He's paid to run a business, and has managed to make a loss of 3/4 of a billion in 11 years. Even if you completely disregard all of the other stuff, that alone would be cause for him to lose his job as CEO of many, many other organisations. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Monday, May 19, 01:55:23pm (NoHost/84.65.41.50)
- I understand why, as an attending fan, you’d have issues with CEO, I don’t get involved in those debates as don’t go to as many games as most, haven't enough skin in the game. But he’s been at the club 17 years, the khans must be happy with him or they wouldn’t keep him. Their business record suggests some good judgement, he must be achieving his targets, or they’d have got rid. Losing money is what almost every football club does, it’s not comparable industry to most others. (NT) -- Henry1879, Monday, May 19, 05:07:56pm (cpc113812-lea23-2-0-cust213.6-3.cable.virginm.net/86.26.216.214)
- What has the asst/manager done wrong (NT) -- Swig, Monday, May 19, 07:36:35pm (NoHost/2.123.149.134)
- Best Ever -- Eerwah, Monday, May 19, 03:09:29am (customer.sydyaus1.pop.starlinkisp.net/206.83.114.60)
Been to big clubs lost within corridors of power, our MS will do well being encouraged to stay FFC and achieve. With a plan on the table, ambition will reflect how deep are the pockets also state the market is in. Appetite for on pitch investment needs to match claims made for new stand comfort and culinary achievement that hardly mirror the habitual cruising of lower divisions we are historically familiar with.
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- Highlight of the day and maybe season. -- Hg, Sunday, May 18, 09:48:09pm (cpc141402-brnt4-2-0-cust971.4-2.cable.virginm.net/86.9.199.204)
Has to be gentleman Jim offering out the Brentford fan live on Fulham tv just after they missed the penalty. He was telling him to meet him outside the ground after the match 😂 if that doesn’t win a bafta then nothing will 😂
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- Silva interview -- Marco Silva presser from fof, Sunday, May 18, 07:59:57pm (0540b459.skybroadband.com/5.64.180.89)
The plan is there and clear. The board knows already. The plan is there on the table. It is an ambitious one, let's see what we can do. The club wants to move forward."
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- Instantly improved once King and Wilson came on for Smith-Rowe and Iwobi -- Ted Bundy, Sunday, May 18, 07:55:56pm (ns5000062.ip-51-161-87.net/51.161.87.144)
Silva must be scratching his head.
Kings of West London #Fulham
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- Fans -- traditional, Sunday, May 18, 07:04:40pm (unn-149-34-244-153.datapacket.com/149.34.244.153)
I was at a lunch the other day and David Daly dug out the traditional fans. Obviously being paid a packet to be a club stooge but isn’t he meant to be the fan rep on the Board?
Well, all I saw today was real fans so what would he say now?
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- Attack of the contract extendees! -- eganonoa, Sunday, May 18, 05:39:31pm (pool-108-18-149-21.washdc.fios.verizon.net/108.18.149.21)
In a week where people have criticized the club for extending Cairney, Wilson, Raul and Adama, it is very funny to see what these guys provided today: 3 goals, 2 assists (though for some reason Adama is being credited only with one).
On the other hand, great to see Leno proving doubters such as myself wrong today!
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- Record points total, will always feel we "could" have been up with Forest, nevertheless when we did get 53 we were 7th so depends how the league itself runs (NT) -- Waterboy, Sunday, May 18, 05:42:39pm (NoHost/148.252.145.37)
- There’s been some confusion over cairney, but fairly sure he hasn’t been offered one and will leave, which I agree with. We don’t have the money to be letting players who impact prem games like Wilson and Raul do to leave, thought Raul was immense today. Traore I’m little on the fence, tete was exposed so much today and I’m 50/50 whether we should keep him. (NT) -- Henry1879, Sunday, May 18, 05:46:19pm (cpc113812-lea23-2-0-cust213.6-3.cable.virginm.net/86.26.216.214)
- Re: Attack of the contract extendees! Great post agree entirely sometimes we all are guilty of criticising some decisions but great to see us win today and achieve a record number of points untie Premiership. (NT) -- Alboy, Sunday, May 18, 05:53:35pm (host81-141-215-112.range81-141.btcentralplus.com/81.141.215.112)
- But objectively speaking, one game doesn't justify the concerns that some supporters may have over those extensions. We've had a decent season from a historic perspective, but fell painfully short on quality when a golden opportunity for European qualification presented itself. Where were these 3 players then? Not knocking them, but we need greater ambition in the market to push forward. (NT) -- Samuel, Sunday, May 18, 06:02:47pm (NoHost/81.78.226.36)
- Of course it doesn't. But it is funny timing. And of course its not just one game for many of them. Raul as top scorer and part of a tandem that's contributed 20 goals from No. 9; I believe a PL record for us. Adama as our leading assist player, 3rd in goal contributions. Wilson our 4th highest scorer in just 1/3rd of a season's minutes. "Where were these 3 players then?" Contributing VERY meaningfully. Cairney, of course, is a different question, but nice to see such an impact today. (NT) -- eganonoa, Sunday, May 18, 06:20:44pm (pool-108-18-149-21.washdc.fios.verizon.net/108.18.149.21)
- Samuel you understand how PSR works and how the khans have made it clear they won’t just continually bankroll big losses and tbag good players cost a lot of money. Do you propose we let 6/7 players with very little money coming in and then magic 120m out of nowhere to replace them? Every manager has been backed with great ambition for a long time now, given the relative size of FFC and its revenue. (NT) -- Henry1879, Sunday, May 18, 07:02:42pm (cpc113812-lea23-2-0-cust213.6-3.cable.virginm.net/86.26.216.214)
- Well said Henry. Perreira wants to go, Reed has suitors and deserves first team football and Vicinius is not wanted. These are the ones to go. Any other sale should be on our terms and the right price. Need a leader and a midfielder who scores a few.. (NT) -- Exactly, Sunday, May 18, 08:08:55pm (host86-150-245-99.range86-150.btcentralplus.com/86.150.245.99)
- Reverse -- Long Termer, Sunday, May 18, 05:09:33pm (host86-182-137-173.range86-182.btcentralplus.com/86.182.137.173)
Instead of points dropped from winning positions, can anyone tell me how many points gained from losing positions
Newcastle A Brentford H/A Chelsea A Liverpool H
must be others?
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- Table is linked inside. We're 2nd in the league on 21 points. Also linked is the points lost from winning positions. We're top of the heap with 28 points. Bizarre season -- eganonoa, Sunday, May 18, 05:43:17pm (pool-108-18-149-21.washdc.fios.verizon.net/108.18.149.21)
- Draws at Ipswich and Spurs. (NT) -- MWKent, Sunday, May 18, 07:17:26pm (host-81-86-162-36.as13285.net/81.86.162.36)
- Southampton away (NT) -- MartinC, Sunday, May 18, 07:34:07pm (host109-155-209-63.range109-155.btcentralplus.com/109.155.209.63)
- 4 out of four against newcastle and brentford - 1 out of 4 against soton and ipswich - sums up our season - (NT) -- Rupert, Monday, May 19, 08:52:08am (5ec14d8b.skybroadband.com/94.193.77.139)
- Great win -- Alboy, Sunday, May 18, 05:05:56pm (host81-141-215-112.range81-141.btcentralplus.com/81.141.215.112)
The boys got the points today great win. 👍
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- Just when we're about to criticise the substitutions. We go 3-2 up Cairney/Wilson -- CB, Sunday, May 18, 04:36:54pm (213-18-175-173.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.175.173)
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best players today are the 3 who got contracts extended -- co-incidence spotter, Sunday, May 18, 04:35:43pm (Amsterdam15.quetzalcoatl-relays.org/45.94.31.68)
there you go!
and yes TC did absoulutely nothing before his leap of faith. but thts basically how Palace won the Cup and thats Brentfecks gameplan too.
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- Who put the ball in the Brentford net -- Martin C, Sunday, May 18, 04:34:32pm (host109-155-209-63.range109-155.btcentralplus.com/109.155.209.63)
Harry f’ing Wilson (again).
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- ESR ,LUKIc and BERGE midfeild hasn't lived up to their billing...... -- top bins, Sunday, May 18, 04:18:21pm (Amsterdam15.quetzalcoatl-relays.org/45.94.31.68)
does neither.. not creative nor defensively solid. nothing happens centrally when attacking. AND often attacks and goals come directly from central midfield errors.
overhaul of how the central midfield plays/personel URGENT!
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- The answer is Cairney 😂😂😂😂 Silva is taking the absolute Pi$$ -- Button, Sunday, May 18, 04:08:09pm (nmal-23-b2-v4wan-169190-cust1261.vm24.cable.virginm.net/80.5.116.238)
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- Re: The answer is Cairney 😂😂😂😂 Silva is taking the absolute Pi$$ (NT) -- Apparently he is the answer.. (,), Sunday, May 18, 04:30:42pm (NoHost/165.227.231.32)
- The answer actually is Carney. Header 2-2 (NT) -- Observer, Sunday, May 18, 04:30:50pm (NoHost/90.202.14.192)
Re: The answer is Cairney 😂😂😂😂 (NT) -- ha ah, Sunday, May 18, 04:32:32pm (Amsterdam15.quetzalcoatl-relays.org/45.94.31.68)
- 🤣 this aged well (NT) -- FB2, Sunday, May 18, 04:32:51pm (NoHost/90.211.210.131)
- What a prize cunt you are. (NT) -- AC, Sunday, May 18, 05:43:56pm (2e40d84f.skybroadband.com/46.64.216.79)
- This is one of those beautiful posts that you only get to see every now and again. Thank you Button for indulging us (NT) -- TT(1), Sunday, May 18, 08:37:19pm (6.175.37.89.baremetal.zare.com/89.37.175.6)
- Your welcome everyone I was only typing what every Fulham fan was thinking . (NT) -- Button, Monday, May 19, 12:09:31am (nmal-23-b2-v4wan-169190-cust1261.vm24.cable.virginm.net/80.5.116.238)
- 30 points dropped/lost FROM winning postions -- ESR i'd pay £5m max, Sunday, May 18, 03:57:30pm (Amsterdam15.quetzalcoatl-relays.org/45.94.31.68)
The overridding lesson to learn from this fizzled out season should be
When in front.... change how we play.
Its been clear we play the same when level and in front in games.
Get caught out time and time again pushing players forward even when leading
Time to be boring if and when leading and keep players back and play on the Counter.
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- Actually incredible that wissa was on the pitch to score. -- Jim © (The Devon IP), Sunday, May 18, 03:54:15pm (host86-177-136-171.range86-177.btcentralplus.com/86.177.136.171)
Wasn't this ref the one on var at Wembley yesterday? And that penalty? Barely worth playing when it's this corrupt.
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- Yes but then so was Tete (NT) -- Al, Sunday, May 18, 04:03:02pm (NoHost/193.17.86.154)
- Second yellow for sure! (NT) -- Zvezdara boy, Sunday, May 18, 04:03:11pm (93-97-5-119.zone5.bethere.co.uk/93.97.5.119)
- If it’s incredible that wissa is on the pitch then it’d incredible that tete is on the pitch, right side of our defence is absolutely pedestrian, it’s painful watching Tete and Anderson up against pace. (NT) -- Henry1879, Sunday, May 18, 04:09:19pm (cpc113812-lea23-2-0-cust213.6-3.cable.virginm.net/86.26.216.214)
- I can’t believe how we are playing we are relegation fodder next season our transition is slow and ponderous compared to around 12 other teams in the premier league another two easy goals given away we are getting destroyed in midfield take them both off awful also our set pieces are atrocious. We are walking into a nightmare this formation has been found out -- Button, Sunday, May 18, 03:53:06pm (nmal-23-b2-v4wan-169190-cust1261.vm24.cable.virginm.net/80.5.116.238)
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- Harris -- Waterboy, Sunday, May 18, 12:55:09pm (NoHost/84.67.210.3)
Luke Harris was another we had of high potential, 29 appearances for Brum this season. 3 goals & 1 assist. I would expect slightly better stats from a team that won the league and 2 leagues below but maybe will be given a chance in pre season? They gave Godo a season after a similar loan
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- DROBE, yes please. -- Eric, Sunday, May 18, 12:23:08pm (host86-152-44-221.range86-152.btcentralplus.com/86.152.44.221)
Would love the ticket and can still get there in time.
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- Congratulations Palace -- Tina Weymouth, Sunday, May 18, 10:36:03am (host-2-102-161-56.as13285.net/2.102.161.56)
If ever a side had their Name on the Trophy it was Palace Fantastic Support also.The first 20/30 minutes was a carbon copy of our quarter Final I knew they were going to Score in that period when City couldn’t convert anything. Finally the VAR for the non Red Card really was one of the worst non Decisions I’ve ever seen what was VAR bought in for was to overturn the Shocking on field decisions I wondering now it should be scrapped altogether.
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- It is about time everyone woke up to VAR being legalised matchfixing... authorities badly wanted a small club to breath a little life into this stale competition and punish City's cheating... irony not their thing... football's beyond corrupt now... (NT) -- Rupert, Sunday, May 18, 10:44:57am (5ec14d8b.skybroadband.com/94.193.77.139)
- It's great to see Pep and City finish the season without a trophy. The Billionaire Ballerinas have been getting away with it for too long. However, the Palace keeper should have been sent off, and from that perspective they were extremely lucky. But Palaces manager and scouts have done an incredible job; they even got £30 million for Anderson 🤢. Top business people too. (NT) -- Samuel, Sunday, May 18, 10:50:52am (NoHost/81.78.226.36)
- Why didn't City at least get a free kick for the handball? (NT) -- Hammersmithender, Sunday, May 18, 11:13:57am (NoHost/31.94.14.10)
- Re: Congratulations Palace (NT) -- Advice please best station for today’s game., Sunday, May 18, 11:17:02am (host-2-102-161-56.as13285.net/2.102.161.56)
- Re: Congratulations Palace (NT) -- Underground?, Sunday, May 18, 12:12:41pm (host-2-102-161-56.as13285.net/2.102.161.56)
- Was rory Mcilroy ever that great? -- Quesiton, Sunday, May 18, 08:37:39am (NoHost/89.19.88.140)
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- Pep! Si, the fizz has gone and he's lost his bottle. -- Cola, Sunday, May 18, 07:33:57am (host86-152-44-221.range86-152.btcentralplus.com/86.152.44.221)
Guardiola ranting at Henderson, instead of shaking his hand. ... respect gone. Watch this space for a Mourinho-style decline?
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- A message to Brentford -- Fat Freddy’s Cat, Sunday, May 18, 06:11:56am (NoHost/148.252.157.242)
I’m sure you’ll be all as upset as I am by the fact our much smaller neighbours. From Hounslow will miss out on Europe by a cruel twist of fate Pala e beating City . I wonder if we should ask them have they ever beat Juventus ?
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- Who said the FA cup was dead. That's a shot in the arm for mid-table teams to win a top prize -- CB, Saturday, May 17, 06:47:32pm (213-18-175-173.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.175.173)
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- How ‘Great’ were Palace ?!!! -- Mickey, Saturday, May 17, 06:42:24pm (host5-80-69-138.range5-80.btcentralplus.com/5.80.69.138)
Munoz what a player , full of energy and drive . Whoever brought him and a number of their other young players to the Club deserves a medal . Great compactness , courage and danger on the break . Who cares about possession, panache and flare when you have a game plan like that : absorb , stay disciplined and use your pace . City reminded me of us today ; impotent huffing and puffing to no avail whilst Doku was our Traore . Pleased for Parrish and the rest of their footballing hierarchy . Watch and learn ‘Mr Khan’ !!!!
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- Palace defended well but helped by City not shooting but trying to walk the ball in and Palace’s Help from VAR. I would have been livid if the keeper hadn’t been sent off against us. (NT) -- Birdman, Saturday, May 17, 06:55:59pm (NoHost/37.72.152.33)
- Henderson should gave got a red in the first half. City were poor and yes reminded me of Fulham. Apart from Doku the rest over coached no one trying something different. Modern football is crap. (NT) -- Yawn, Saturday, May 17, 07:07:43pm (host86-150-245-99.range86-150.btcentralplus.com/86.150.245.99)
- To be honest, and not taking away anything from Palace’s achievement, I’d rather watch Silva’s football than that (dons helmet). (NT) -- Straw Clutchers Anonymous, Saturday, May 17, 07:10:16pm (82-132-215-12.dab.02.net/82.132.215.12)
- Re: To be honest. Fulham ARE a let down! Poorly run in many aspects. just think of a WORLD were FFC was able to retain PL status/ remain within PSR limits WHILE not having to lose both Mitro and JP??? yes! FFC would be in the top 6 and Fa cup winners as of RIght now.. So Shad Khan and son, has failed us??? (NT) -- mid table = clown/cryin face?, Saturday, May 17, 07:21:02pm (ns565315.ip-54-39-133.net/54.39.133.108)
- Totally agree, yes I'd love to win a trophy, yes they play a system that works excellently but basically park the bus and rely on catching teams on the break. Am I bitter, yes somewhat but it's not the way I'd want my team to be set up (NT) -- Me of course, Sunday, May 18, 09:11:52am (cpc160099-nmal26-2-0-cust805.19-2.cable.virginm.net/82.18.163.38)
- Long long summer with your anti-club, anti-Khan, pro-other clubs agenda. Great. (NT) -- Club Stooge, Saturday, May 17, 07:56:40pm (host86-145-9-192.range86-145.btcentralplus.com/86.145.9.192)
- Nice to see you back on song and giving it large Mickster.What’s it they say about leopards and spots? (NT) -- Yawning Rog, Sunday, May 18, 10:44:48am (5ec0f8a7.skybroadband.com/94.192.248.167)
- Yes Palace were great defending & fast when on attack. All the more impressive after their woeful start to this PL season. Parrish is a Chairman that attends matches so different to our absent overseas Khans. Plus they have a truly great striker which most teams would have unlike our pair, good defenders & we overpaid them for Andersen who is hit & miss as we concede late goals. (NT) -- Paolo, Sunday, May 18, 11:32:51am (NoHost/176.26.92.127)
- One day, Fulham. One day... -- Wolfie Smith, Saturday, May 17, 06:41:20pm (host86-164-233-36.range86-164.btcentralplus.com/86.164.233.36)
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- Sliding fulham -- Thofokoz, Saturday, May 17, 06:39:10pm (82-132-232-231.dab.02.net/82.132.232.231)
Shall we hire Gwyneth paltrow for the Fulham edition of sliding doors when Muniz nets that chance at the cottage after 2 minutes?
Glasner glaziers go ahead eagles 2025 written in the stars
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- No need to worry about 8th place anymore. That’s Palace’s now. Looks like City will need a win at Fulham to secure Champions League football though. How exciting. -- Roy, Saturday, May 17, 06:38:19pm (95f1942a.skybroadband.com/149.241.148.42)
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- Well done Palace . Good luck to you -- View from the Riverside, Saturday, May 17, 06:35:50pm (NoHost/104.28.89.41)
Palace win …. Commence Spanish sour grapes from Pep… imagine what it’s going to be like when they get stripped of all that silverware …
Sprite and effort trump Petro dollars and cheating
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- Atwell and VAR bottle it again. -- Straw Clutchers Anonymous, Saturday, May 17, 05:43:21pm (82-132-215-12.dab.02.net/82.132.215.12)
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- Vanat -- Goss, Saturday, May 17, 12:49:52pm (0540b459.skybroadband.com/5.64.180.89)
Fulham & Leeds are both interested in Dynamo Kyiv's Vladislav Vanat who has 21 goals this season.
Kyiv though are reluctant to let him leave before UCL qualification is complete
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- Brentford/Sunday -- EW, Saturday, May 17, 07:31:29am (host86-152-44-221.range86-152.btcentralplus.com/86.152.44.221)
Spare ticket, anybody?
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- Transfers Harry Maguire A better Cf than CB. Englands 3rd best Cf after Kane and Watkins -- Alan, Friday, May 16, 08:53:03pm (ns5023939.ip-148-113-162.net/148.113.162.142)
Makes £60M Solanke look... Forget Calvert Lewin too.
point being Maguire CF 3 for World Cup sqaud? Tuchel take note
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- Transfers in: Asensio 15 million great buy for Aston Villa their recruitment has been excellent. We need to recruit well this season to continue our excellent progress. -- Alboy, Friday, May 16, 07:36:13pm (host81-141-215-112.range81-141.btcentralplus.com/81.141.215.112)
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- in trouble again -- red kev, Friday, May 16, 06:04:40pm (NoHost/206.245.206.124)
Four Premier League clubs have been warned by the Gambling Commission over their relationship with an unlicensed gambling business.
Bournemouth, Fulham, Newcastle, and Wolves, as well newly promoted Burnley, are all sponsored by betting websites run by TGP Europe.
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- Wasting money -- Phil, Friday, May 16, 04:37:39pm (saphil.plus.com/31.125.165.251)
What is the point of sending out a glossy season ticket renewal brochure without any price information, even on the accompanying letter!
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- Friday night flix -- dc fam, Friday, May 16, 04:33:36pm (ns3060567.ip-162-19-121.eu/162.19.121.10)
Makes little sense that Morpheus would join Neo in John Wick (4)?
Not the same Film Cannon
Not the same orignal makers of the Matrix
Some stunt men off shot a B-Movie version into John Wick.
But now features both Matrix headliners in the 'same roles'
IS THIS the MATRIX #rebooted??
seems we was told John Wick 3 was the end of his story... So now Wicks jumped into the Matrix?
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- Another Article from ‘Fulhamish’ -- Mickey, Friday, May 16, 12:24:25pm (82-132-215-54.dab.02.net/82.132.215.54)
5 Factors affecting our season tail-off. Usual Injuries ( happens to most ), ESR ( wait til next season ), Silva’s decisions ( baffling subs at times for sure ), missed opportunities ( ties in with above ). But top of the list was ‘Failing to back Silva in January’. Cannot help but concur with this ; knowing both FBs were playing through injuries and with Both RBs struggling they were prepared to force players to carry on and perform knowing we were in with a good shout at our best finish . Fast forward to now and already we have extended contracts to mid-30s in Cairney( inexplicable ) and Jimenez. Meanwhile are we really to expect Traore after all these years to suddenly discover the final product missing from his game throughout his career ? Who next , Reed? Others will ALL push forward whereas we under this deluded DoF (‘everything is GREAT’), are in danger of stagnating ,either with Silva or a successor . Their recruitment policy mirrors that of ticketing ; very little forward projection and overseen by ‘Yes Men’ whose main ambition is to please the one and only ‘Mr Khan’.
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- So an article that completely ignores FFP/PSR being a thing, then? Whilst i agree something should have been done to bring in a full back on loan, i'm not sure where people think all the amortisation from Iwobi, Bassey, Diop, ESR, Andersen, Castagne and Berge has dissapeared to. What sort of backing are people expecting? (NT) -- Same Old Story, Friday, May 16, 12:44:47pm (NoHost/84.65.41.50)
- Wether people think football should be like it is or not, everything has to be viewed through the lens of PSR now, the teams that understand that have far more chance of success. It’s put a moat around the ‘big 6’, but in some ways it helps us, means likes of villa, forest, Newcastle can’t just spend there way out of our reach. It’s a shame football is run by accounts now, but that’s how it is, they’re the rules and we must bear that in mind for any buy/sell/contract offer. (NT) -- Henry1879, Friday, May 16, 01:55:04pm (cpc113812-lea23-2-0-cust213.6-3.cable.virginm.net/86.26.216.214)
- Ask yourself this: how many players that Marco has had in January get into the team frequently until the following season? It basically doesn't happen. He takes a long time to integrate players. Given the news on Castagne's injury I'm surprised a loanee right-back didn't come in. But I don't recall Marco asking for anyone or even implying there was a need. While I respect anyone who spends their time producing Fulham content, Fulhamish really is bottom-barrel stuff. (NT) -- eganonoa, Friday, May 16, 12:47:07pm (pool-108-18-149-21.washdc.fios.verizon.net/108.18.149.21)
- Just beat me to it SOS. I have no idea what our position was regarding FFP/ PSR as do everyone now moaning about January signings and current contract renewals. (NT) -- Birdman, Friday, May 16, 12:50:31pm (NoHost/37.72.152.33)
- Totally agree bringing in players in Jan close to levels of existing players is unrealistic . But where are those within the squad capable of stepping up into those positions without significant detriment to the team ? Comes back to the same argument : the Squad is simply not big enough to promote enough players into 1st team duty and blowing so much of our budget on failing 29 year olds certainly would not have helped . (NT) -- Mickey, Friday, May 16, 01:13:00pm (host5-80-69-138.range5-80.btcentralplus.com/5.80.69.138)
- Two per position is the standard these days and by that metric the squad was strong. Robinson/Sess, Bassey/Cuenca, Andersen/Diop, Tete/Castagne, Berge/Reed, Lukic/Cairney, ESR/Andreas, Iwobi/Nelson, Adama/Wilson, Raul/Muniz. Not a lot of holes. Made sense to push the boat out with three big summer signings in ESR, Berge and Andersen. Maybe what we bought was wrong, but to say the manager hasn't been "backed" doesn't pass the sniff test. (NT) -- eganonoa, Friday, May 16, 02:24:21pm (pool-108-18-149-21.washdc.fios.verizon.net/108.18.149.21)
- Understand that we've had a few bad performances so Sarky Mickey is back to annoy and irritate for the foreseeable future. There will be no sensible discussion. (NT) -- The Man With No Name, Friday, May 16, 01:13:14pm (host86-191-218-152.range86-191.btcentralplus.com/86.191.218.152)
- We may have signed them for a year but can now get a fee for them. We had a good season up to Palace in the Cup and apart from Liverpool watching us since then very boring! I hope we get rid of Pereira a non scoring No10 and get a quality replacement and two wingers. Nelson deserves another chance as long as we can terminate his contract if his injuries return. (NT) -- Going, Friday, May 16, 02:48:30pm (host86-150-245-99.range86-150.btcentralplus.com/86.150.245.99)
- Not sure I understand the yes man point being made by the OP. Transfer and other spend is limited by both the FFP constraints and the extent of the willingness of the owner to continue to subsidise the losses of the club. Everyone at the club has to work within those constraints - as do those working at other owner managed clubs/businesses. Hw does that make them yes men - they are just employees working within set parameters. (NT) -- f bloke, Friday, May 16, 04:07:02pm (NoHost/90.200.145.126)
- We went into the season with attacking players with very low goalscoring stats at this level, only Raul and ESR had managed 10 in season before (NT) -- Waterboy, Friday, May 16, 04:45:26pm (NoHost/84.67.210.3)
- TC follow up -- Goss, Friday, May 16, 07:43:44am (0540b459.skybroadband.com/5.64.180.89)
Fulham midfielder Tom Cairney, 34, is a target for Championship-bound Wrexham, with the former Scotland international set to be offered a deal worth £50,000 a week when he leaves the Cottagers on a free transfer. (Talksport)
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- Brentford/Sunday -- EW, Friday, May 16, 07:18:21am (host86-152-44-221.range86-152.btcentralplus.com/86.152.44.221)
Looking for one ticket.
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- fallen behind? -- fst take note?, Friday, May 16, 06:53:15am (ns3065296.ip-51-77-20.eu/51.77.20.95)
Sad times, when Everton Ladies now play in a 36k stadium and Chelsea ladies is valued at £150-200M
how much is FFC mens side worth? and what is the capacity of CC
London City ladies has built a Brand new training ground in Elbsfleet.
Why hasn't FFC mens got these things?
Has we been left behind by beeing obssessed with 'remaining at CC and remaining in the PL' at all costs?
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- Rapid Transition -- Eerwah, Friday, May 16, 06:05:57am (customer.sydyaus1.pop.starlinkisp.net/206.83.123.28)
Pity we lost our way last few matches but perhaps still good fortune for the squad is not appearing in good shape for the many additional European fixtures.
Repeat conceding after leading, late dropping of points in hand, permitting opposition to settle into formation when we have possession are less than expected traits of a top half Premiership squad. Besides infusion of youth, an ability for on field leadership authority is required with competitive force for gloveman.
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- Fulham making a big deal about extending Raul, Wilson and Traore contracts... -- dd, Thursday, May 15, 09:37:49pm (NoHost/90.213.242.75)
Obviously going to be a quiet summer!
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- Evolution not revolution. Sensible. (NT) -- Mr No Name, Thursday, May 15, 10:12:42pm (host86-166-64-159.range86-166.btcentralplus.com/86.166.64.159)
- You're right of course, we should have let them all leave on a free transfer... (NT) -- GTS, Thursday, May 15, 11:00:40pm (0545288c.skybroadband.com/5.69.40.140)
Re: So we khan all assume 'the manager for 2025-26' season is the one to give this OKAY?? (NT) -- gunner jones, Thursday, May 15, 11:06:50pm (ns31546371.ip-141-94-196.eu/141.94.196.217)
- I can appreciate the reason for extending Wilsons contract as he could still fetch a decent fee from the championship, or perhaps a newly promoted premier League club. Traore might get championship offers, but only as a free agent i'd suspect. He's an aging journeyman. Raul is the most worrying, particularly if considering his personal terms, performances and age. Extending his contract signals we have little to no intention of signing a premier league quality striker. (NT) -- Samuel, Friday, May 16, 08:38:04am (NoHost/81.78.226.36)
- I understand keeping wilson but traore and raul should be moved on they haven’t offered enough this season unless they’ve signed on as squad depth and improvements are on the way (NT) -- wishful thinKING, Thursday, May 15, 11:07:04pm (NoHost/185.111.157.230)
- Wilson is a useful addition off the bench so keeping him adds some strength in-depth. But Raul is well past his best, and Traore - besides immense pace - doesn't really have the technical ability at this level to impact games. We need to be moving away from Championship players and there's an argument that puts all 3 into that category. Lose Silva and fail to invest could see us fighting relegation next season. (NT) -- Samuel, Friday, May 16, 08:11:56am (NoHost/81.78.226.36)
- Raul may be 'past his best' but who else is scoring at the moment? (NT) -- .., Friday, May 16, 04:41:25pm (host86-190-239-41.range86-190.btcentralplus.com/86.190.239.41)
- Tommi Frank -- Mickey, Thursday, May 15, 06:18:42pm (82-132-222-107.dab.02.net/82.132.222.107)
has proclaimed this as the biggest PL Derby Ever between the two Clubs . Undoubtedly the pressure is almost all on them , so will be interesting to see whether they serve up the kind of limp performance alas we displayed 2nd half last Sat. How ruthless will we be in silencing their fanbase ? Or will we just oblige with a half hearted effort and a few neighbourly gifts in front of goal . As recently heard on Fulhamish : ‘Only Fulham could come 5th in a 3-Horse Race’.!
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- Why would we have any pressure, absolutely nothing to play for (NT) -- Waterboy, Thursday, May 15, 08:32:55pm (NoHost/84.67.210.3)
- Re: Tommi Frank (NT) -- Not if Palace beat City on Saturday., Friday, May 16, 02:34:40am (host-2-102-161-56.as13285.net/2.102.161.56)
- Er, I think there was a match at Wenbley that carried rather more significance... he is a bit of a twat, would love to wipe that smug smile off his face... again! (NT) -- Rupert, Friday, May 16, 10:05:39am (5ec14d8b.skybroadband.com/94.193.77.139)
- He's building it up to be something it's not. Our season is finished and on current form, they'll walk through us. Hopefully we turn up and the team exhibit some self respect and gratitude for the fans. At least make an effort lads. (NT) -- Samuel, Friday, May 16, 10:43:00am (NoHost/81.78.226.36)
- Re: hardly a huge game for them in Palace win the fa cup on Saturday and take the final European spot (NT) -- Harry Bayles, Friday, May 16, 11:50:05am (NoHost/31.22.15.65)
- Sad news to report - Cliff Dean has passed away -- ---, Thursday, May 15, 04:25:42pm (hudd-14-b2-v4wan-168900-cust2605.vm35.cable.virginm.net/80.7.58.46)
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- I didn't know him but I knew the Legend. RIP. (NT) -- old codger, Thursday, May 15, 05:01:42pm (unn-138-199-30-186.datapacket.com/138.199.30.186)
- That's 2 spare seats away then?🥰 (NT) -- €¥π, Thursday, May 15, 05:08:08pm (customer.lndngbr1.pop.starlinkisp.net/216.128.29.106)
Re: Sad news to report - Cliff Dean has passed away -- Fulham Man, Thursday, May 15, 05:46:53pm (host109-152-226-186.range109-152.btcentralplus.com/109.152.226.186)
- Re: Sad news to report - Cliff Dean has passed away -- Ffc sw4, Thursday, May 15, 07:52:06pm (NoHost/148.252.146.231)
- One of our lifetime supporters, First met him in the 70s. Would be really cool to have a song for him at Brentford.."He's one of our own. he's one of our own Cliffie Dean, He's one of our own" (NT) -- red kev, Thursday, May 15, 09:02:25pm (NoHost/206.245.206.124)
- Very sad news …… RIP Cliff (NT) -- Ffc, Thursday, May 15, 09:57:14pm (97e02c8e.skybroadband.com/151.224.44.142)
- Re: Sad news to report - Cliff Dean has passed away -- Bambi, Thursday, May 15, 10:24:10pm (185.63.125.91.dyn.plus.net/91.125.63.185)
- Only Cliffie could travel up to Burnley on a Tuesday night and imbibe so much on the train he ended up being escorted out of the ground... before kick off. It was result, mind... very insipid display and we lost 3-1, some things never change... great character, RIP Cliffie. (NT) -- Rupert, Friday, May 16, 10:09:24am (5ec14d8b.skybroadband.com/94.193.77.139)
- Re: Sad news to report - Cliff Dean has passed away -- percy dalton (p.d's peanuts), Friday, May 16, 09:58:08pm (host-89-241-217-238.as13285.net/89.241.217.238)
- TC in the movies ? -- Fof goss, Thursday, May 15, 01:30:52pm (0540b459.skybroadband.com/5.64.180.89)
Wrexham have held talks about deal for Fulham midfielder Tom Cairney in move that would signal ambitions in Championship. The 34yr-old likely to be club record fee should it progress
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- Esr a waste of money -- Phil P - Hammy17, Thursday, May 15, 11:33:06am (frhb90830ds.ikexpress.com/178.170.49.7)
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Fulhamish are calling out Joa and ESR as a waste of money.
Don't necessarily disagree but odd that the normal club stooges like Fulhamish would put out a negative article. Normally they are pretty chummy with Khan and co
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- ESR can and I believe will come good , esp after a full pre-season . Andersen on the other hand appears to be getting even slower and to offer him a 5 year Contract at 29 having paid £30 million for him was madness . But but but . ‘Silva really wanted him’!!! (NT) -- Mickey, Thursday, May 15, 12:05:36pm (82-132-222-137.dab.02.net/82.132.222.137)
- Both were excessively priced although a more convincing argument can be made for the steady experience of Anderson than the sedentary CV of ESR. But both have turned out to be a huge let down, with Anderson edging the disappointment factor after his dependable performances for Palace. Can't blame the club for backing Silva though, so it's the managers judgement in question, if indeed they were his transfer priorities. (NT) -- Samuel, Thursday, May 15, 12:15:09pm (NoHost/81.78.226.36)
- I hadn't realised Anderson gave an interview saying he joined us for the money as per the article (NT) -- Deerek, Thursday, May 15, 12:17:55pm (NoHost/109.78.114.215)
- That's not so much of an issue for me because at least it's honest. They're ALL mercenaries motivated by personal gain. They kiss the badge one week, then refuse to play the next when a bigger club comes knocking. (NT) -- Samuel, Thursday, May 15, 12:28:05pm (NoHost/81.78.226.36)
- If our Recruitment personnel has anything about them , they would look ahead other than the here and now . If they haven’t the capability nor desire to source and bring in younger players then it’s so much easier to let the Manager have control . Maybe they saw JA as Ream’s replacement but I wonder whether Silva was consulted as to the length of contract and effect £30mill would have on rest of our budget (NT) -- Mickey, Thursday, May 15, 12:55:29pm (82-132-215-145.dab.02.net/82.132.215.145)
- I suppose the length of the contract was probably determined by ffp etc and amortisiation or whatever, but only because of the size of the transfer fee.. Its not a great deal as he is probably on a high wage. Its ther credit card approach to recruitment that got in trouble under Mo. Hopefully he will be in better form over the next 2 year and it will sort of make sense... (NT) -- FF, Thursday, May 15, 01:21:41pm (static.199.173.156.178.clients.your-server.de/178.156.173.199)
- Anderson moved for the pay & long contract, otherwise he wouldn’t have moved. Palace to FFC is a sideways move, the club only offered the large contract to fulfill the managers want. Do you think silva is stupid? That he doesn’t understand that if you pay X for a player in fee and wages that’ll come out the budget and leave less for elsewhere? Works both ways, silva wanted muniz/cuenca, they worked well, but anderson we over paid for in wages/fee, that’s at least partly down to him. (NT) -- Henry1879, Thursday, May 15, 05:39:10pm (cpc113812-lea23-2-0-cust213.6-3.cable.virginm.net/86.26.216.214)
- Was never a massive fan of Andersen, didn't want him back at that price. Going back was told from someone who would definitely know, he wasn't popular around the place in his first spell. Even his normally excellent distribution has been off. Very slow & 30m at his age with little resale, was not good business imho. ESR been a let down but has shown glimpses of what he's capable of. Bit early to totally write him off (NT) -- TSW, Thursday, May 15, 12:56:32pm (NoHost/31.94.34.52)
- Leaving aside the question of whether we should have signed them and how well they've done it's a basic fact that these days £20M is the basic going rate for an EPL journeyman. (NT) -- The Man With No Name, Thursday, May 15, 01:00:38pm (host86-129-69-236.range86-129.btcentralplus.com/86.129.69.236)
- This is correct and central defenders and attacking midfielders are two of the most expensive. Around the time of their signings I linked to a research article that in those two positions the average was closer to the 25-30m range. (NT) -- eganonoa, Thursday, May 15, 01:04:14pm (pool-108-18-149-21.washdc.fios.verizon.net/108.18.149.21)
- Lacroix £15 mill, Huijsen €15 mill, Wharton £20 mill: 3 excellent young players and all with massive sell-on value , let alone their tremendous contributions to their Clubs. But no , such findings are beneath us and our magnificent DoF . (NT) -- Mickey, Thursday, May 15, 02:03:17pm (82-132-233-100.dab.02.net/82.132.233.100)
- That's how averages work. Some are higher, some lower, etc. In the ranges you are talking about or lower we have Bassey, Muniz, Sess, all three excellent young players, etc. etc. Plus we clearly have the belief we can find value in overlooked older players like Lukic, Palhinha. Or are we going down the whole, all good signings are Marco, all bad ones the clubs silliness again? Anyway, the sole point I was making above is in agreement on average prices (NT) -- eganonoa, Thursday, May 15, 02:19:38pm (ue.tmodns.net/172.56.2.148)
- Agree with 'enry on this thread. (NT) -- WayneKerrins, Thursday, May 15, 09:19:21pm (NoHost/31.94.32.3)
- I have been concerned about Emile all season but I think his problems are mostly psychological rather than physical. For all those writing him off, just ask yourself this: if we sold him for £30 million to Brentford this summer, would you be confident that he wouldn't come good there? (NT) -- Mr Kurkurusa, Thursday, May 15, 10:16:48pm (92.40.192.156.threembb.co.uk/92.40.192.156)
- Looking ahead to next season -- Gary Elkins Shin Pad, Thursday, May 15, 10:22:46am (NoHost/2.220.40.27)
Just been reading the news that Sky have announced an increase of 70% more live games next season, with more Friday night games, more Monday night games and even more Sunday lunchtime games, so in effect even less Saturday football,
Can you imagine how many we'd take to Leeds, Burnley or either Sheffield or Sunderland on a Friday or Monday night 😟
Surely this has to have a negative impact on season ticket sales,
What do you think?
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- Get a life (NT) -- Virgin, Thursday, May 15, 10:30:46am (brnt-06-b2-v4wan-160985-cust77.vm7.cable.virginm.net/86.16.166.78)
- An absolute ballache for those of us who prefer to go, no doubt. You reminded me of an article I read a few months ago (link inside). Basically, symptomatic of a potential cooling of the domestic TV rights market. So the PL have offered more games to maintain values. But does mean the per-match TV income for clubs reduces, which is presumably counterbalanced by having more televised matches. Still not enough to make me subscribe to any of the broadcasters -- The Doctor, Thursday, May 15, 11:18:11am (host81-152-148-185.range81-152.btcentralplus.com/81.152.148.185)
- Think there will more games from the championship in thatn70% (NT) -- Ekw, Thursday, May 15, 07:37:46pm (host86-185-165-170.range86-185.btcentralplus.com/86.185.165.170)
- Fair Punishment or Not -- Mr Kurkuruza, Thursday, May 15, 09:59:02am (92.40.193.18.threembb.co.uk/92.40.193.18)
Surely if Man City sign the likes of Florian Wirtz then that's because he has been assured that any due punishment for flouting financial rules, will be minimal?
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- Marco Silva -- Jt20, Thursday, May 15, 06:11:28am (47-148-43-93.lsan.ca.frontiernet.net/47.148.43.93)
I’m curious how many of you think the first objective of the offseason is to keep our manager, because that will also lead up to which players come and go. If a new manager comes in it becomes a greater chance of a new player rotation and different playing style which go good or bad.
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- Olly Norwood’s Stockport one step away from Wembley -- Mumbles, Wednesday, May 14, 07:33:53pm (NoHost/2.125.10.30)
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- Nice goal from. Ollie ONeill. (NT) -- Hemel Rog, Wednesday, May 14, 08:11:57pm (5ec0f8a7.skybroadband.com/94.192.248.167)
- Made me yearn for non premiership bullshit. The football was exciting as well. (NT) -- Bob, Thursday, May 15, 10:09:19am (NoHost/104.28.86.51)
- Great tie, felt for Olly, would have been lovely to see him back at Wembley after THAT tackle in 2018, would also be nice to see the Os back in the second tier after four decades... (NT) -- Rupert, Thursday, May 15, 11:02:42am (5ec14d8b.skybroadband.com/94.193.77.139)
- Picnic at the Cottage -- Kenny, Wednesday, May 14, 04:56:10pm (97e42664.skybroadband.com/151.228.38.100)
Got the email from the club that tickets are on sale today for this with a link - go to the link and there is no mention of it. Anyone else tried to do this?
I tried calling the ticket office and it's closed for the day saying call back in working hours - before 5pm (It was 4.45pm when I did this)..
Anyone done the Picnic at the Cottage before? Worth doing with the kids?
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- £6.95 for delivery from the Fulham club shop utter disgrace I was going to spend around £50 on some things but that has put me off so Fulham you have lost some wedge because of your greed -- Button, Wednesday, May 14, 01:23:54pm (nmal-23-b2-v4wan-169190-cust1261.vm24.cable.virginm.net/80.5.116.238)
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- What world do you live in? You know that’s how much a package costs these days? A medium Royal Mail package is about £7 off top of my head these days. So greedy as well, losing about £30m/year, after pumping about £700m into the club since buying it, damn those greedy owners!!! (NT) -- Henry1879, Wednesday, May 14, 02:19:52pm (cpc113812-lea23-2-0-cust213.6-3.cable.virginm.net/86.26.216.214)
- The club itself is a small enterprise. Yes will have a margin of 35/40% but need staff/storage picking, packing. And yes posting costs. I'm a lifelong socialist but having had my own retail business understand overheads. They are not Amazon/Tesco just a corner shop by comparison. (NT) -- CB, Wednesday, May 14, 06:56:29pm (213-18-175-173.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.175.173)
- Try Amazon, if you want anything delivered without Prime it's seemingly £4.99 nowadays even if you buy something for £5 !!! (NT) -- Lng Termer, Wednesday, May 14, 07:50:06pm (host86-182-137-173.range86-182.btcentralplus.com/86.182.137.173)
- Just wondering about the impact of the riverside stand on our ability to compete at the very top. -- Straw Clutchers Anonymous, Wednesday, May 14, 01:14:27pm (NoHost/90.205.198.168)
With all the recent publicity around the riverside stand, being described as the 'best stand in the world' I think by AM, and, previously described by Khan senior as a 'game-changer' for Fulham. Once the revenue starts rolling in, where is it likely to push us to on the Premiership level and possibly Europe?
Will it enable us to sign £40mill+ players regularly (if the manager wants of course), or are we now at the best level we're likely to be?
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- gk -- bvb, Wednesday, May 14, 03:02:47am (static-68-235-44-20.cust.tzulo.com/68.235.44.20)
Overall our defense ranks 3rd in the league in Expected Goals Against (the number of goals we would be expected to concede) and a big chunk of that appears to come from Leno. The sad thing is that this appears to not just be a one-off poor season, but a steady decline from him. In 2022/23 he had a Post-Shot Expected Goals of +9.1, meaning he stopped 9.1 more goals than expected, and we ranked 1st in the league in this metric. Last season we dropped to the middle in this metric, letting in 1.3 more goals than expected. In 2022/23 we ranked in the upper middle of the league in crosses stopped percentage, stopping 7.6% of crosses. Then last season we dropped to 2nd bottom with just 4.0%, around where we are today. Similarly, in 2022/23 we ranked in the upper-middle of the pack in goalie sweeper actions with 1.26 per 90, dropping to the lower-middle with 1.05 per 90 last season, before cratering to the bottom this season.
1. Post-Shot Expected Goals - Goals Allowed: A convoluted stat, but the gist is you look at how many goals would have been expected to have been scored and subtract the actual number of goals scored. By this metric, we're 2.5 goals worse off because of Leno's shot stopping this year. We're 5th worst, down with the relegation clubs and two clubs who have massively under-performed this year: Brighton and Wolves (the two worst). By contrast Bournemouth are right at the top, miles ahead of everyone else, with their goalie stopping 10 goals that were expected to be scored! Other clubs that are doing well from their goalie include Forest and Palace.
2. Crosses Stopped %age -- This is the percentage of crosses into the penalty areas which were successfully stopped by the goalie. We are 3rd worst here, with only West Ham and Forest with keepers less able to stop shots as poorly as Leno. He's successfully stopped just 4.3% of crosses. By contract the likes of Arsenal and Villa are up at 12.8% and 10.5% respectively, probably one reason they do so well at defending set-pieces.
3. Defensive Actions Outside the Penalty Area ("Sweeper Actions") -- This is the keeper acting as a sweeper. We've all talked at length this week about Andersen's biggest weakness, his pace, and the need to have someone to cover him. Well Leno is absolutely not helping here! We rank 4th worst in the league, with Leno contributing just 0.8 such actions per 90 minutes. By contrast, Newcastle (1.91), Arsenal (1.71) and Bournemouth (1.69) keepers are giving them twice what we are getting from Leno.
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- I don't know who our goalkeeping coach is,as It makes you wonder what Leno does in training. Perhaps a new goalkeeper coach is required, someone like Mark Schwarser . (NT) -- MWKent, Wednesday, May 14, 07:53:36am (host-81-86-162-36.as13285.net/81.86.162.36)
- Leno never looked the same after the operation last year (NT) -- Waterboy, Wednesday, May 14, 08:42:48am (NoHost/84.67.210.3)
- Where have I seen this analysis before? (NT) -- eganonoa, Wednesday, May 14, 09:33:48am (pool-108-18-149-21.washdc.fios.verizon.net/108.18.149.21)
- Put a bid in Fulham for Sakamoto looks decent put in some great crosses and was willing to take on his man -- Button, Tuesday, May 13, 11:18:54pm (NoHost/185.69.144.126)
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- Score Sakamoto - thought the same myself but they'll demand a good price - he'll play in the Premier League so why not for us - Coventry must have run over a Black Cat - (NT) -- Rupert, Wednesday, May 14, 08:40:18am (5ec14d8b.skybroadband.com/94.193.77.139)
- Well if links are anything to go by we’d have werner and coufal starting for us next season, there’s so many players in the champ who can take the next step it’s a shame we never sign any (NT) -- allergic to the champ, Wednesday, May 14, 11:10:46am (NoHost/45.11.82.68)
- Be nice if he said happy Christmas, especially if you are called Lawrence. (NT) -- GTS, Wednesday, May 14, 04:14:39pm (24.206.97.74.netskope-rdns.com/24.206.97.74)
- Be nice if he said happy Christmas, especially if you are called Lawrence. (NT) -- GTS, Wednesday, May 14, 04:52:11pm (24.206.97.74.netskope-rdns.com/24.206.97.74)
- The CEO -- The PR girl, Tuesday, May 13, 01:28:19pm (unn-149-34-244-132.datapacket.com/149.34.244.132)
Not a fan of Fulhamish, but good article there responding to the CEO out of touch quote on champagne and caviar. He’s an incredible chancer but gets away with murder.
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Meanwhile, on the official, Alistair Mackintosh named "Premier League CEO of the Year" at the Football Business Awards. Who to believe? (NT) -- Confused, Tuesday, May 13, 02:07:27pm (host81-133-110-86.in-addr.btopenworld.com/81.133.110.86)
- Just out of curiosity why are you not a fan of Fulhamish? I am not involved in it so not offended, but it’s pretty difficult to dislike surely? (NT) -- Kenny, Tuesday, May 13, 08:32:39pm (NoHost/155.133.17.234)
- Fulhamish is mostly good, nice range of voices. I do think the podcasts could do with an edit as they're too long and some content adds no value (we all know what the goals look like!) or is of spurious interest (we should sign a creative midfielder from Belgian who has good stats). I like the Q&A at the end as chance to reflect on some wider issues. (NT) -- Magic Matt, Wednesday, May 14, 01:33:47pm (NoHost/147.161.143.100)
- Oh, and Fulhamish need to ditch the talk about Vegas, fences and accountancy examinations. Zzzzz. (NT) -- Magic Matt, Wednesday, May 14, 03:58:41pm (NoHost/147.161.143.100)
- wonderful -- Boe Jiden, Tuesday, May 13, 11:48:14am (static-68-235-44-20.cust.tzulo.com/68.235.44.20)
just had a Slice and Dice down at the Club
A must try.
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- Rot starts from the top -- Macintosh has to go, Tuesday, May 13, 11:29:27am (NoHost/89.19.88.131)
Everyone debating tactics and players.
Yes, Anderson and ESR have both let us down badly.
But ultimately Teflon Macintosh gets away scot free. Stand still not opened. No ambition to push the club forward. He obviously knows where the secrets are. Underperformed foe a long time
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- Not really sure you can blame players for not being better than they are. That’s down to the management team and scouts for not doing their job properly, or aren’t good enough at it. Anderson hasn’t performed and better or worse than he did for palace. Smith Rowe no one knew what he would be like as he was out injured for two years. A massive risk that hasnt paid off (yet). (NT) -- Hg, Tuesday, May 13, 11:36:32am (NoHost/31.94.32.62)
- Of course, manager has very little to work with and the fact we are 2 points from a record season shows it has been half decent! only thing id question recently is King looks a decent prospect and he isnt getting any time and we are picking proven failiures instead of him (NT) -- Waterboy, Tuesday, May 13, 11:51:52am (lanc-08-b2-v4wan-168332-cust3678.vm14.cable.virginm.net/80.5.238.95)
- There are 2 separate aspects - on the pitch stuff and off the pitch stuff. Ali Mac should, ideally, have limited say re on the pitch stuff other than appointent of managers, setting of budgets and ensuring FFP compliance. My understanding is that re off the pitch stuff he reports directly to SK. So not sure too much blame can be apportioned his way for the team performance but the fiasco of the new stand delays and the antagonising of the legacy fan base really are not feathers in his cap (NT) -- f bloke, Tuesday, May 13, 12:18:45pm (NoHost/90.200.145.126)
- Not sure there's much of a "rot"! New stand may not be open 100% but it's actually built compared to predecessors who did nothing but threaten to move us away. We've secured 3 x seasons in the Premier League. Shown "ambition" in the transfer market backing the best manager we've had in years. The underlying numbers indicate that we've underperformed, not over performed while approaching our league record points. If this is "rot" long may it thrive! (NT) -- eganonoa, Tuesday, May 13, 01:27:18pm (pool-108-18-149-21.washdc.fios.verizon.net/108.18.149.21)
- ST Renewals -- DelBoy, Tuesday, May 13, 10:05:20am (NoHost/104.30.133.124)
Does anyone else think this is slightly wrong regarding my 17 year old daughters ST price: Went on the renewals page and her price has gone from £150 (Junior), (new price would be £154) to £427 (young persons). Her birthday is in July, so fair enough, is 18 before the season starts
Just phoned the ticket office and they are saying that its the age you are on 1st August. Again, fair enough - but our seats are only on hold til 6th June
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- Fulham move on up -- Louis Saha, Tuesday, May 13, 08:49:53am (2e409fa8.skybroadband.com/46.64.159.168)
He’s done brilliantly, but Fulham can still go up one or two rungs on the ladder. I really think that this club is amazing. They have understood how to stay in the Premier League, to maintain this type of quality all the season. They’ve not had any long stretches of under-performance.
“They give everyone a tough match, and Silva is the master of that success. They have the capacity to reach and play in Europe, maybe win some trophies. That’s what I want to see from them, and Marco is the man for that. I’d be happy to see him stay and take them all the way to a trophy. Fulham are an ambitious team who want to go further, and they shouldn’t be thinking of any ceiling on their performance. They could even recruit better players in the summer to kick on.”
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- 49th Consecutive Season Tickets -- Jonathan Baines, Tuesday, May 13, 07:03:33am (NoHost/51.179.195.214)
Me and my younger brother (by 1 year) have just bought our 49th consecutive season tickets. His is now concessionary as he was 65 in December, as I was last year -66 in January this year. His was £437 (last season £676) mine was £407 ( last season £450) - I have the 'green pole' very slightly obscuring my view, but it is symbolic of the Hammersmith End and I used to stand next to it in the 1970s until we left for Loftlouse Road in 2002, returning in 2004.
A massive thank you to the club for maintaining the price for us OAPs to continue to support the team at home in our 'Dotage at the Cottage!'
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- God, that makes me think!!! Got my first when I was 18 in 1983/4, standing in the Enclosure!! Never moved since, well except for the year after Bradford and Loftus Road. Can't really believe it's 42 seasons!!! (NT) -- GTS, Tuesday, May 13, 07:25:44am (ip-185-104-136-31.ptr.icomera.net/185.104.136.31)
- Boomers really are the entitled generation (NT) -- Chris M, Tuesday, May 13, 08:05:54am (NoHost/84.67.120.19)
- Delightful post, Jonathan! (NT) -- Andrew in Bath, Tuesday, May 13, 08:36:26am (NoHost/90.210.119.115)
- Congratulations, thought I was a loyal fan, but you put me to shame. I salute you sir! (NT) -- G, Tuesday, May 13, 10:07:26am (host81-133-110-86.in-addr.btopenworld.com/81.133.110.86)
- Forest -- Samuel, Monday, May 12, 10:30:01pm (NoHost/81.78.226.36)
I'm late to the party and have only just read about the confrontation Marinakis had with Nuno after the Leicester game. My initial thought was that his grievances should have been put on ice until a more appropriate time, ideally in private. It also seemed outrageous that he's angry with a manager who has taken the club from relegation fodder to European football in 2 seasons. But perhaps that level of ruthlessness is justified, and arguably the very reason Forest have done so remarkably well. After all, he's spent hundreds of millions servicing the ambition of the fanbase and delivered on the promise of Europe. At least the supporters know they have an owner who wants success and will not passively tolerate poor performances or decision making. The squad will also now know they have to give 100% because they're dealing with someone who clearly doesn't take prisoners.
I'm still disinclined to agree with his actions but there's also a side that feels that perhaps owners, and supporters are too forgiving of failure. The owners fork out millions and the supporters pay hard earned cash to watch the games and buy the merchandise, but it's the multi millionaire managers and players who, more often than not, are awarded sympathy. How many times do we hear or read comments like: Get behind the team and/or manager after a string of bad performances. Or the player just "Needs an arm around his shoulder" or "He's lacking confidence" etc. Well, he wasn't lacking confidence or needed a cuddle when he signed £100k p/w contract. Noooooo, he was full of bloody beans then.
Maybe Marinakis has the right attitude after all.
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- Marinakis has real passion for the Club , attends nearly every game and -like the fans - feels every emotion . That’s my kind of Owner ; even took on the Establishment and won . He made a pledge on taking over to deliver them European Football and will succeed ahead of schedule . As for incident with Nuno , he was just expressing his frustrations . Expect a firing of their medical staff and a dressing down for Awoniyi . Oh and didn’t Nuno handle the questions well ! (NT) -- Mickey, Monday, May 12, 11:16:10pm (host5-80-69-138.range5-80.btcentralplus.com/5.80.69.138)
- Absolutely. Nuno exhibited class in the way he handled the incident and calmly reduced it relatable emotions. I think the embers of that situation will continue to smolder and reignite in the future, especially if Forest fail to improve their current position, as Marinakis is ruthlessly ambitious and doesn't seem the type of character who easily forgets. (NT) -- Samuel, Tuesday, May 13, 07:25:12am (NoHost/81.78.226.36)
- He is fcuking horrible.Nuno should have told him to go away.All that dish though. (NT) -- HemelRog, Tuesday, May 13, 09:02:58am (5ec0f8a7.skybroadband.com/94.192.248.167)
- Yes a complete crook, with dodgy dealings and somehow avoiding prosecutions. Just the sort of owner you like, eh? (NT) -- Club Stooge, Tuesday, May 13, 11:39:52am (host86-145-9-192.range86-145.btcentralplus.com/86.145.9.192)
- This is exactly what is missing at Fulham. We are a soft organization from top to bottom. Always too worried about appearances and feelings. Throw that attitude in the bin. I wish are club had an alpha like their owner. (NT) -- RR, Tuesday, May 13, 05:40:05pm (regus.net/50.238.80.70)
- Managers fail they get a big pay out, probably a go somewhere else, players like Rashford turn up late, go out clubbing after losses, put in public they want to leave (despite them signing the contract for exorbitant money) and they get to go and play somewhere else by forcing a move. We are told to feel sorry for players/managers all the time, for being paid insane amounts to play/coach in football, yet apparently the owners are the devil for losing loads of money to pay these ‘hero’s’. (NT) -- Henry1879, Tuesday, May 13, 07:11:41am (cpc113812-lea23-2-0-cust213.6-3.cable.virginm.net/86.26.216.214)
- Marinakis spat at the referee when they lost at home to us, given some kind of ban. (NT) -- Juan, Tuesday, May 13, 07:53:55am (NoHost/2.222.50.115)
- I don't feel too sorry for these exceedingly well-paid people being put under pressure, but battering them and slagging them off doesn't necessarily improve their performance or results. It can even have an adverse effect (NT) -- El Pato, Tuesday, May 13, 08:33:36am (NoHost/130.255.28.185)
- I can't stand him. He comes across as a spoilt rich kid who tantrums when he doesn't get what he wants. How many charges of corruption against him were conveniently dropped in Greece? (NT) -- Mr Kurkuruza, Tuesday, May 13, 09:34:36am (92.40.193.18.threembb.co.uk/92.40.193.18)
- Leno replacement? -- dd, Monday, May 12, 09:47:06pm (NoHost/90.213.242.75)
Fulham are one of the clubs in the picture to sign San Lorenzo de Almagro goalkeeper Orlando Gill in the summer window.That’s according to San Lorenzo Website, and they cover comments made by the 24-year-old’s agent, Mariano Zelaya.The representative claims Bologna and Genoa are both keen and his client has received an offer from the Premier League. He hasn’t made it clear the details of the team, and the outlet suggests Fulham is the club.“Bologna and Genoa are interested. There’s also a very important offer from the Premier League [Fulham], and there’s also an offer from Brazilian football,” he said. The Paraguayan graduated from Club Sportivo San Lorenzo[Paraguayan club] and left them to join the Argentine club in January 2024.Gill made 18 appearances so far of which 17 are from this year and kept nine clean sheets and conceded 11 goals in the process. His contract expires in December 2027.Despite receiving approaches from Fulham and other clubs, the agent insists his client’s preference is to finish this year at San Lorenzo de Almagro.“What I always tell Orlando is to take it slow. He’s at a big club, which gave him the opportunity and visibility. I want him to stay until the end of the year because he’s fighting to be part of the national team,” Zelaya explained.“Where a player builds his career is crucial. You have to be very careful where he plays and with which manager. If a player tells me ‘I want to make history with the national team,’ then the responsibility is huge.“Today, Orlando has San Lorenzo and his national team on his mind. We’ll work through our options slowly.”The goalkeeper hasn’t made his debut for Paraguay but that could change soon. Paraguay manager Gustavo Alfaro called him up for the two games against Chile and Colombia in March.
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- Season Ticket Renewal -- Mr No Name, Monday, May 12, 05:27:52pm (host86-166-64-159.range86-166.btcentralplus.com/86.166.64.159)
Received an email invitation to renew today but can't see anything definitive about having a card again next season (as an old wotsit) beyond this on the web site:
"Following on from a successful 2024/25 Premier League season, digital season passes will continue to be distributed to fans as the default method of entry into Craven Cottage.
The Club will support fans who require further assistance on digital entry and understand there will be some exemption groups, who will be able to apply for an alternative entry method." How do we apply for an alternative?
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Same as last season I guess. A lot nearer the start of the season eligible categories, such as old gits like me, can apply for a card! (NT) -- Phil, Monday, May 12, 07:14:26pm (saphil.plus.com/31.125.165.251)
- I just renewed and emailed back to check if I could use the card again. I'll keep you posted. (NT) -- Crafty Cottager, Monday, May 12, 08:29:36pm (NoHost/94.10.142.164)
- Write to the ticket office or the SLO, Nicola Walworth. They will re-issue cards or consider creating a new one for those who need them. (NT) -- Scott, Tuesday, May 13, 01:29:45am (NoHost/147.161.143.78)
- Scouting and Recruitment -- Ken, Monday, May 12, 04:43:34pm (33C63E8e.skybroadband.com/51.198.62.142)
Does anyone know for sure if Talbot and son are still in charge of scouting and if not who is, there must be someone in charge or some sort of landing team?
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- Re: Scouting and Recruitment: We need a director of Football recruitment. (NT) -- Alboy, Monday, May 12, 06:10:00pm (host81-141-215-112.range81-141.btcentralplus.com/81.141.215.112)
- Re: Scouting and Recruitment (NT) -- Talbot and Son still in the Premises, Tuesday, May 13, 02:04:50am (host-2-102-161-56.as13285.net/2.102.161.56)
- Talbot was last seen at the Christmas party at MP. He's believed to be in his office, as plates of food are slid under the door every day and an empty plate is returned. (NT) -- MWKent, Tuesday, May 13, 08:56:15am (host-81-86-162-36.as13285.net/81.86.162.36)
- Re: Scouting and Recruitment -- golden gloves, Wednesday, May 14, 10:05:23am (nrwh-14-b2-v4wan-164660-cust592.vm23.cable.virginm.net/82.4.218.81)