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The Independent Fulham Forum

Once again Free The Fulham 1 -- Fat Freddy’s Cat, Wednesday, November 20, 02:18:09am (NoHost/148.252.157.114)
I don’t know how to use this forum correctly , I have bad eyesight , the. Letters they want me to type are not obvious . But I’d like to respond to Kevin below . Yes the club ate perfectly right to ban this 100% Fulham hardcore fan for one moment of stupidity. I know he’s totally gutted now , he lives and breathes Fulham ..but Kevin you really believe he should be banned ? I guess you sit in the new not selling out riverside stand clapping the horrendous clappers. This man gets banned for five years for running on a pitch , but the people ( I won’t describe race or religion ) who attacked police officers at Manchester airport. Have yet to be charged ?? Emotional white male celebrates a goal , five year ban. A certain person of maybe a differant racial background batters police on every news channel . Still not charged ?

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- Agree. Utterly ridiculous if the club ban him for that. Outrageous. The players didn't seem to mind. True fan being treated abominably. Free the Fulham One. (NT) -- You have my support, Wednesday, November 20, 08:06:35am (NoHost/90.213.242.75)
- Club don’t like the ‘legacy’ fans and will do anything to get rid of them. (NT) -- woodman, Wednesday, November 20, 08:25:07am (cpc158567-haye26-2-0-cust402.17-4.cable.virginm.net/86.15.153.147)
- I don’t know the exact details of this, but I think there’s been a real push by premier league and lower leagues to take firm action on discretions like pitch invasion. I don’t agree with it, think it’d much ado about nothing and a slap on the wrist move on would be what I’d like, but I just wonder how much is dictated from the league rather than club, perhaps someone knows more about it than me. (NT) -- Henry1879, Wednesday, November 20, 09:02:30am (82-132-237-169.dab.02.net/82.132.237.169)
  - I believe there was a binding agreement recently at the Premier League level requiring a ban and a referral to the police for potential prosecution (see link inside). I don't know if the length of the ban is mandated though, so perhaps there is some wiggle room to keep it small. And, of course, police and the CPS can decide to not prosecute. You'd hope that there's at least some ability to moderate depending on the situation. -- eganonoa, Wednesday, November 20, 09:50:23am (p1357079-ipxg00a01sizuokaden.shizuoka.ocn.ne.jp/153.215.225.79)
- Also worth noting the club sell framed photos of a CC pitch invasion….. (NT) -- woodman, Wednesday, November 20, 09:12:29am (cpc158567-haye26-2-0-cust402.17-4.cable.virginm.net/86.15.153.147)
- If no action is taken, it becomes the norm. Surely we can all see that? Whether the punishment is excessive can be argued, but something has to be done. Or bring back the fences. (NT) -- Observer, Wednesday, November 20, 09:55:29am (NoHost/90.192.125.76)
  - And if it becomes the norm, so what? (NT) -- p, Wednesday, November 20, 10:23:41am (NoHost/90.213.242.75)
- Such a ridiculous comparison. Fan behaviour is clamped down on heavily because football has a history of hooliganism that folk don't reignited. (NT) -- HE, Wednesday, November 20, 10:05:29am (lewi-28-b2-v4wan-166893-cust665.vm4.cable.virginm.net/86.16.2.154)
- He gets banned for running on the pitch, yet my friend (white male) got stung by a wasp last week. How is that fair?? (NT) -- Free Elvis Hammond, Wednesday, November 20, 12:12:16pm (bmly-10-b2-v4wan-169590-cust1512.vm4.cable.virginm.net/81.99.37.233)
- Whatever happened to streakers? I miss them! -- ToppusCattus, Wednesday, November 20, 12:21:43pm (31-221-48-155.cust-31.exponential-e.net/31.221.48.155)
- A ban for the rest of the season, or to the end of the next would suffice. The club should then lay down the rules for the rest of us if the pitch is entered again (5 years is a deterent?). Has anyone started a supporter petition that can be sent to the club? Have people contacted the FST or that new quango supporters body elected by the club? Your comparrison to the Manchester Airport incident: that's a grossly false equivalent that I guess you might find on any right wing social media account. (NT) -- Juana Aorta, Wednesday, November 20, 12:35:21pm (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
  - SOS said the guy wants nothing like this until the episode is finished (presumably cos the club get nastier the more support a fan gets) (NT) -- woodman, Wednesday, November 20, 02:28:44pm (NoHost/57.140.20.9)
    - Yes thats exactly it - which i believe is in mid december. Once that's happened i understand he'll be looking at his options. But there was clearly no mal-intent (as can be evidenced by the players reactions to him), so 5 years just seems ludicrous to me - and i'd hold that viewpoint whether i knew the individual or not. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Wednesday, November 20, 02:40:33pm (NoHost/90.241.124.131)
- "Pitch invasions: Offenders to receive automatic club ban under new Premier League & EFL measures" - Link inside -- MH, Thursday, November 21, 04:50:43am (180-150-112-232.NBN.mel.aussiebb.net/180.150.112.232)
Free The Fulham 1 -- Fat Freddy’s Cat, Wednesday, November 20, 12:43:51am (NoHost/148.252.157.114)
I won’t name the Fulham pitch invader ( legend) on here , but I’m sure loads of you will know him . This man bleeds Black and White , he’s a lovely fella . Haven’t seen him in years but I believe hes found God . Tbis man did not run on the pitch with any malice , did not provoke the bus stop fans . Just ran on the pitch to celebrate what was just a few minutes earlier an impossible win . Look at the video , he meant no harm , tbe Fulham players actually love it he’s run on the pitch with the emotion of it . Ok Fulham he’s done wrong , he way stupid , but five years ? Sex offenders and burglars get less . This is a true Fulham fan . He’s obviously. Going to get a ban . But five years ???? This season and next maybe ? He hasn’t even been in court yet . Shame on you Fulham for darkening a fantastic night

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- The supporter was in breach of the Ground Regulations wherein the club is within its rights to issue up to an indefinite ban. (NT) -- Darren Peestain, Wednesday, November 20, 01:29:53am (NoHost/103.219.21.9)
- I was up for a lifetime ban and was escorted out by Kevin Moore after being seen (sober) with a hip flask in the enclosure. Fortunately, after a few fans put in a word, all was good. This guy should get a warning, and maybe a bit of written support will avoid the possible overreaction . (NT) -- malcbridger, Wednesday, November 20, 01:38:37am (178-220-177-72.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs/178.220.177.72)
- Re: Free The Fulham 1 -- Fat Freddy’s Cat, Wednesday, November 20, 01:50:30am (NoHost/148.252.157.114)
- Yes Kevin the club are within their right to ban him -- Fat Freddy’s Cat, Wednesday, November 20, 02:04:13am (NoHost/148.252.157.114)
That’s so craven -- Fat Freddy’s Car, Wednesday, November 20, 12:09:35am (NoHost/148.252.157.114)
Must say for Aussies I absolutely love their Podcast (not keen on the Fulham ladies bit ) it’s top notch , love the Pod Daddy Elton , I’m drunk and my memory fails me but one of his sons is brilliant , the other sensible one is very good . I’ve somehow joined the Thats so craven Discord ? No idea what a discord is but I’ve joined it . Think it’s another word for a Forum . Just had a little butchers and it’s got a brilliant video chat thing with Muniz and Andreas , that leads to a link to a very funny ESR sanders Berg e link . Love Fulhamish but That’s do Craven just about tops it I think 💪

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- Re: That’s so craven -- Fat Freddy’s Car, Wednesday, November 20, 12:34:47am (NoHost/148.252.157.114)
- Re: That’s so craven (NT) -- That Ginge bloke is Man U, Wednesday, November 20, 09:18:43am (host-217-8-22-33.as13285.net/217.8.22.33)
Back to the Football - pocket sized central mids watch -- Marty McFly, Tuesday, November 19, 05:36:35pm (marylou.nos-oignons.net/89.234.157.254)
Still baffles us to this day How McGinn continues to bee that goal scoring CMid general Tony turned down when available on the cheap.

Instead of McGinn Tony choose to fork out 3 times more cash on that Combo of MLM and Seri

and we know how bad a decision that was.

In a classic case of showing how far TK's talent assessing has improved, years later with 'Captain' Cariney needing replacing. We now appear to be in for McAteer for Man city.

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- The assembled team that year had enough to stay up imo. Only Seri was the flop, and mcginn seems to be one of those players that got to the right club at the right time, taken the time to step up and grow with Villa, would've probably been too early if he came straight into Prem. (NT) -- Chris M, Tuesday, November 19, 06:08:06pm (NoHost/81.79.28.132)
- Jason? Or do you mean McAtee? We should get the Heskey twins while we’re there (NT) -- ASPT, Tuesday, November 19, 06:56:51pm (114-129-187-208.ip4.superloop.au/114.129.187.208)
Gary Lineker quitting Match of the Day, now Zoe Ball quitting the breakfast slot at Radio 2... it feels like the end of an era! -- Mr Couldn't-Give-a-Monkeys, Tuesday, November 19, 09:01:16am (NoHost/90.196.12.62)
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- 2 biggest earners they have, closed Wogan house, sold off sets like eastenders, money must be tight for them now (NT) -- Waterboy, Tuesday, November 19, 09:07:57am (NoHost/84.65.40.204)
- The BBC's struggles are a clear sign they haven’t gone far enough in championing progressive values. Audiences crave bold leadership on issues like social justice, diversity, and climate responsibility. If they truly committed to these causes, they’d set a standard no one could turn away from. Playing it safe is costing them dearly! (NT) -- Red Hen (He/Him) (😷💉🏳‍🌈✊🏿🌍), Tuesday, November 19, 09:46:53am (NoHost/62.197.151.19)
  - True pity you don’t believe it. (NT) -- Billy Cottons Bandshow, Tuesday, November 19, 11:28:41am (5ec0f8a7.skybroadband.com/94.192.248.167)
- Lineaker didn’t quit, the beeb didn’t offer him a new contract. (NT) -- Hg, Tuesday, November 19, 07:50:40pm (cpc141402-brnt4-2-0-cust971.4-2.cable.virginm.net/86.9.199.204)
- Blimey. Will Ken Myers finally be hanging up his Clubcall hat next? (NT) -- Ronnie Gibson's Pedantic Elbow, Wednesday, November 20, 02:47:56pm (cpc107643-gill19-2-0-cust94.20-1.cable.virginm.net/81.105.102.95)
From The Athletic -- Johnny, Monday, November 18, 09:30:32pm (NoHost/90.213.242.75)
4. Fulham (£938m)
Owner: Shahid Khan
Takeover: 2013
Purchase price: £150m
Funding: £788m
Shahid Khan, owner of the NFL team Jacksonville Jaguars, was one of the early American arrivals in the Premier League when buying Fulham from Mohamed Al-Fayed over a decade ago. The purchase price was thought to be £150million but that was only the start of Khan’s investment.
Total funding has run close to £800million, equating to roughly £80million a season. Fulham are yet to record a profit during the reign of Khan, with losses peaking at £94million in 2020-21.
The need for additional investment came in the wake of relegations in 2019 and 2021 but Fulham, upwardly mobile under Marco Silva, can consider themselves a settled Premier League club again under Khan, who has consistently turned loans from holding company Cougar into share equity.
The most recent instance came only last month and Fulham’s most recent accounts detailed that £62.5million of shareholder loans had effectively been written off in a share conversion, as well as “further financial support amounting to £47.5million” coming from Khan.
Significant funding has been required to transform the Riverside Stand at Craven Cottage, eventually raising capacity to just under 30,000 on the banks of the Thames.

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There is a piece in the Athletic today ….. -- ASPT, Monday, November 18, 07:17:32pm (114-129-187-208.ip4.superloop.au/114.129.187.208)
How much has every current Premier League owner invested in their club?

- Chelsea - £2.6bn
- City - £1.5bn
- Arsenal - £1.26bn
- Fulham - £938m
- Everton - £878m
- Man Utd - £845m. Etc

They might not care if we are there, but we should be a little happy they are!

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- Link inside -- ASPT, Monday, November 18, 07:18:23pm (114-129-187-208.ip4.superloop.au/114.129.187.208)
  - Paywall… (NT) -- Hedgehog, Monday, November 18, 09:17:15pm (2.127.213.195.dyn.plus.net/195.213.127.2)
    - Open the link bot don't scroll, so you dont bring up the sign in banner. Immediately print to PDF/file (NT) -- eganonoa, Tuesday, November 19, 01:02:33am (172.140.5.103.wi-fi.wi2.ne.jp/103.5.140.172)
- After a false start they've really proven themselves to be amazing owners. Secured our future at the cottage with the redevelopment. Invested absurd amounts. Have us as one of the least indebted teams. And now great football, with a great manager who is being properly backed. (NT) -- eganonoa, Tuesday, November 19, 01:22:14am (NoHost/172.58.139.240)
- Yes, Khan has invested that amount, but if you can point relegation primarily at the door of those running the club, that, alone has cost us an approximate £700m in revenue just from not being in the top division. Another £150m was the purchase, and then another £100m for the stand build - effectively adding value to the asset he owns. So yes, we can be thankful for the benevolence, but the majority of it is his cost for allowing his son to use us as a plaything. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Tuesday, November 19, 02:16:38pm (NoHost/90.241.124.131)
  - How have you reached the 700m figure for not being in the top division during their tenure? (NT) -- Henry1879, Tuesday, November 19, 02:27:30pm (croy-26-b2-v4wan-167127-cust1611.vm24.cable.virginm.net/82.38.22.76)
    - Comparing the revenue we got in the respective years vs revenue premier league club generated, both from a commercial (sponsorship etc) and broadcast point of view. You could argue as low as £500m, but thats not my point - our problem is we dropped to a third of our revenue in those times, but didn't drop our costs anywhere near the same proportion. Its an oversimplified view, of course, with much more nuance than this forum allows, but the fundamental point remains the same. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Tuesday, November 19, 03:36:56pm (NoHost/90.241.124.131)
    - Further 'actuals' inside - in reality probably somewhere between £500m and £600m -- Same Old Story, Tuesday, November 19, 04:18:09pm (NoHost/90.241.124.131)
      - This is recommendable as worth clicking on. It differs from the musings of the shape-shifter addressing you above in aiming to deal in objective data rather than fancies. That's so at least until your final forecast, made in shared ignorance of how long it will be before they sell up. That said, you're likely right and certainly are earlier in this thread on the theme of flats-on-CC. (NT) -- b+w g., Tuesday, November 19, 05:49:31pm (host109-154-238-80.range109-154.btcentralplus.com/109.154.238.80)
        
        (Correction: the shape-shifter in the thread a little above) (NT) -- b+w g., Tuesday, November 19, 05:51:30pm (host109-154-238-80.range109-154.btcentralplus.com/109.154.238.80)
        
        A thread that, two (NT) -- hours later, seems to have gone, Tuesday, November 19, 07:52:41pm (host109-154-238-80.range109-154.btcentralplus.com/109.154.238.80)
        
        Re: A thread that, two.. nothing there wasn't true. Just tiff can't handle the truth. (NT) -- South park 🏞️, Tuesday, November 19, 07:56:41pm (NoHost/195.162.117.107)
  - Isn't your timing is off on the "plaything" jibe? My memory isn't your level, but was TK heavily involved in the club in those early years? Hasn't our uptick coincided with his appointment as Vice-Chair and DFO in 2017? Also, isn't the jibe beside the point? Yes, whoever was in charge in those early years made terrible decisions that are in-part behind the increased owner spend. But the ability to make mistakes, learn and not run away from them is impressive, no? I see no negatives here. (NT) -- eganonoa, Wednesday, November 20, 01:07:33am (fpa05631cf.szoh002.ap.nuro.jp/160.86.49.207)
    - I see negatives, in that there was a waste which set us back a few years, but ultimately agree, wasteful and naive yeh, but I’m not even sure what play thing means? How did the decision making occur which concludes FFC was a play thing? Does said individual have more or less say in transfers than before? I honestly have no idea. To make mistakes, learn then improve, should be applauded, not jabbed at with slightly snide remarks (NT) -- Henry1879, Wednesday, November 20, 08:42:59am (82-132-237-169.dab.02.net/82.132.237.169)
      - I think, indeed, we are a rich man's plaything. But it was ever thus for football clubs, no? We're not all St. Pauli, and virtually none are exactly cash-making machines. So most clubs are hoping for a benevolent monarch, so to speak. Either that or enjoy being used to whitewash human rights violations or corruption, or being asset stripped. Our guys appear to be as good as they come. (NT) -- eganonoa, Wednesday, November 20, 09:55:19am (p1357079-ipxg00a01sizuokaden.shizuoka.ocn.ne.jp/153.215.225.79)
        
        I disagree, in that I think most American owners see the vast money made on US sports teams and think similar can be done with prem teams. Why would Kahns with no history of liking football buy a football team as a play thing, they’ve made huge money on Jags and AEW is also seen as a big financial success (worth $2bn), they have a portfolio of sports teams which have made them huge money, not purchased as vanity projects. They’re not abramovich with history of being football lovers. (NT) -- Henry1879, Wednesday, November 20, 10:53:09am (croy-26-b2-v4wan-167127-cust1611.vm24.cable.virginm.net/82.38.22.76)
        
        There's definitely an aspect of a somewhat "safe" investment in the sense of rising asset values (both of owning such a great bit of land in London and rising values of Premier League clubs generally). But sports isn't exactly a guaranteed winner in comparison to returns from other investments someone of SK's wealth could make. Think of it like his yacht, but with the added bonus of him using his money to build his son's career as a sports owner. Constructive fun (NT) -- eganonoa, Wednesday, November 20, 11:17:16am (NoHost/172.58.30.179)
        
        I err on the 'plaything' side – I am no property developer but with the sums invested, not sure I see a property development return to the Khans that would get close to recouping their investment. Profits/recovery may be possible on an exit if EPL clubs seize control of TV rights - which is why the US PE houses have been interested – but that is by no means a given. Owning an EPL club is great for profile and other soft benefits – and maybe that is enough for the time being (NT) -- f bloke, Wednesday, November 20, 12:05:26pm (host86-134-9-66.range86-134.btcentralplus.com/86.134.9.66)
        Nothing is guaranteed, AEW is worth $2bn (Forbes), huge financial success, Jags purchased for 700m, worth $4bn, the khans have done outstandingly out of their sports investments, I reckon FFC just hasn’t worked out just yet in pure money, but getting in to UK market and spreading the jags internationally is a huge benefit. Hugely wealthy don’t just fritter money away on things, it’s not like they’re life long FFC fans with a huge passion for football like Roman. (NT) -- Henry1879, Wednesday, November 20, 02:20:43pm (croy-26-b2-v4wan-167127-cust1611.vm24.cable.virginm.net/82.38.22.76)
        
        But maybe they have learnt to love it in the way eg the Wrexham guys have learnt to love it - TK does come across as genuine in terms of the excitement he gets from his involvement - the ownership has also increased the Khan profile globally and that may well have a positive impact on their other business interests. As said above – it may be that they realise a profit on their exit but I suspect only if the TV distribution model is changed drastically. Until then – a bit of fun (NT) -- f bloke, Wednesday, November 20, 03:12:46pm (host86-134-9-66.range86-134.btcentralplus.com/86.134.9.66)
      - I'm not jabbing with snide remarks, i've said theyve absolutely improved. But my comment is very much accurate for the very worst example of everything i'd criticised early on - namely 18/19. Tens, and tens of millions wasted, TK firmly front and centre of all of that, and due to amortisation, that season alone cost us for years. This forums short answer format doesn't allow for tonnes of context and explanation, so please bear that in mind if an answer i give seems snippy. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Wednesday, November 20, 02:47:56pm (NoHost/90.241.124.131)
        
        Use of language, let his son use us as a play thing, curious why frame it like that, rather than, naive & made mistakes. TK front & centre of that waste, is he now front & centre of our success? Maybe being a glass full type, I’ve enjoyed the rollercoaster, the promotions up with seasons I’ve most enjoyed, entertainment has been amazing. Let’s say it had gone smoothly from day 1, not sure we’d be in a stronger position than we are now anyway as due FFP we aren’t far off our ceiling. (NT) -- Henry1879, Wednesday, November 20, 03:18:15pm (croy-26-b2-v4wan-167127-cust1611.vm24.cable.virginm.net/82.38.22.76)
        
        I thought i'd explained that so as to make it not curious. I typed out a sentence which essentially said that we had (for several years) effectively spent loads of money paying for TK's learning curve. And ran out of spaces, so had to cut down words, hence substituting that big long sentence with the word plaything. Nothing more nefarious than that. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Wednesday, November 20, 03:24:58pm (NoHost/90.241.124.131)
    - I think what is clear is that they bought into an industry they didn’t understand and the early yrs [mis]management was pretty woeful both in terms of bad spend and managerial decisions. The spend has been costly for them and for the club in terms of FFP – that is all history now so long as the cost of those mistakes are not passed onto the fans.. Lessons have been learnt - and in the last 4/5 seasons our transfer dealings have been extraordinarily good. (NT) -- f bloke, Wednesday, November 20, 10:47:52am (host86-134-9-66.range86-134.btcentralplus.com/86.134.9.66)
      - So on the pitch we are operating at a level comparable with the best in our history. Which is obviously great – not sure where TK sits in terms of responsibility for transfer dealings but the upward curve pre-dates Marco. So no current issue with TK as DOF or the way the football side is being run – my big beef is the deliberate attempt by club owners/managers to change the demographic of the fan base.- (NT) -- f bloke, Wednesday, November 20, 10:52:34am (host86-134-9-66.range86-134.btcentralplus.com/86.134.9.66)
        
        I agree with most your points, but not sure owners are trying to change demographics, it’s just a financial thing. There’s an article today about FFC, the money being charged is to recoup money, they don’t care what the demographic is, they just care about people buying the tickets for the prices they want. Until the market has a correction and 80% of revenue isn’t going into players pockets then only way to compete is to keep trying to build revenue. (NT) -- Henry1879, Wednesday, November 20, 11:00:43am (croy-26-b2-v4wan-167127-cust1611.vm24.cable.virginm.net/82.38.22.76)
        
        I was sitting in The Dun Cow in Durham reading the paper.Mr Khan stated that he was merely the custodian of our club.Perhaps it was Toffs,Americans,Japanese and tourists from other countries he was talking about. (NT) -- LegacyRog, Wednesday, November 20, 11:13:56am (5ec0f8a7.skybroadband.com/94.192.248.167)
        
        Maybe so, if that's what it takes. The area, football landscape & country changed dramatically during our "lost" years. The mythical legacy hordes simply weren't there, their progeny siphoned off to neighbors, moves out of town & the rise of big club plastics. We've a small ground with limited growth options. No matter the drop-in-the-bucket argument vs TV revenue, attendance, concessions & merchandise revenue matters. Americans, Asians & "Toffs" are good for that. Seems sensible to target them (NT) -- eganonoa, Wednesday, November 20, 11:34:00am (NoHost/172.58.30.179)
        
        It isn’t just the new fans who have to pay those prices for tickets.I understand we are only seeing the terrific current football because of Mr Khan and appreciate it.Just sad that something is being lost in the mix.I was hanging on in the crap years were you?Clubs that are in their death throes get shite support.It’s a given. (NT) -- HemelRog, Wednesday, November 20, 12:14:05pm (5ec0f8a7.skybroadband.com/94.192.248.167)
        The club has spent the last 25 yrs building the fan base from 4k odd to the c 25k now. This has been achieved by success on the pitch and sensible pricing and eg kids for a kid. I personally think the 4k legacy fans are important but so are the fans picked up in the last 20 years. We have the most expensive non hospitality tickets in world football – the likes of Burnemouth/pb6Brentford/Brighton have found alternative ways of thriving. (NT) -- f bloke, Wednesday, November 20, 12:16:45pm (host86-134-9-66.range86-134.btcentralplus.com/86.134.9.66)
        
        Its the direction of travel but we are setting the pace. Tourist interest will drop off a cliff when we next get relegated and that will happen at some point. Don’t mind what the top end prices are if are limited in no – but the cheapest seat in the new stand for the Arsenal game is £150 and they consciously reduced the number of season ticket holders. I personally find it a little sad that the kids I used to go to games with in the 60/70s can no longer afford to go. (NT) -- f bloke, Wednesday, November 20, 12:22:58pm (host86-134-9-66.range86-134.btcentralplus.com/86.134.9.66)
        
        I honestly found the cap on season tickets more troublesome than the overall prices this year. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Wednesday, November 20, 02:49:17pm (NoHost/90.241.124.131)
Good news for Fulham -- Gary Elkins Shin Pad, Monday, November 18, 03:49:30pm (NoHost/94.2.191.100)
Bassey and Iwobi both being rested on the bench today for Nigeria 🇳🇬

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- Re: Good news for Fulham (NT) -- Is there African Nations in this Calendar?, Monday, November 18, 04:42:11pm (host-217-8-22-33.as13285.net/217.8.22.33)
- And Andersen sent home early after a yellow in the first game led to a suspension for Denmarks second match. Meanwhile Berge gets another assist for Norway and returns healthy. Phew. (NT) -- jayffc, Monday, November 18, 05:59:54pm (cpc88427-bexl10-2-0-cust971.2-3.cable.virginm.net/82.6.27.204)
Jaguars hit for 50 -- BBC headlines, Monday, November 18, 02:29:02pm (7193greeneking01-35402334-gw.cust.daisygroup.net/194.154.178.234)
Shad hope it's not synergy 👹🎯😁

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- Doug Pederson will be gone today. Lions scored 7 touch downs on their opening 7 drives. (NT) -- ASPT, Monday, November 18, 07:07:25pm (114-129-187-208.ip4.superloop.au/114.129.187.208)
Trying to get tickets for Christmas at the cottage the website is a total disgrace wouldn’t let me get 4 tickets and kept crashing never had this problem before honing to have 3 very disappointed kids . Competence Fulham the ticket site isn’t fit for purpose been on there since 13.00 -- Button, Monday, November 18, 01:28:32pm (NoHost/148.252.146.231)
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- There are problems with the website today. Best bet is to phone the ticket office. They helped me put. (NT) -- FFC in Brighton., Monday, November 18, 01:53:32pm (NoHost/90.242.139.237)
  - I had no problem getting a ticket about 3.30pm. Perhaps it was a problem your end of the connection? (NT) -- Juana Aorta, Monday, November 18, 04:59:57pm (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
- Re: Trying to get tickets for Christmas at the cottage the website is a total disgrace wouldn’t let me get 4 tickets and kept crashing never had this problem before honing to have 3 very disappointed kids . Competence Fulham the ticket site isn’t fit for purpose been on there since 13.00 (NT) -- 25 minutes wait on phone but successful outcome., Monday, November 18, 05:19:14pm (host-217-8-22-33.as13285.net/217.8.22.33)
- No problem getting 3 tickets this morning. They know if you're a bees supporter. (NT) -- Observer, Monday, November 18, 05:50:30pm (NoHost/90.192.125.76)
Bad Boy -- stopford white (Happy), Sunday, November 17, 08:19:51pm (stkp-12-b2-v4wan-168572-cust4.vm18.cable.virginm.net/81.106.172.5)
For what possible reason could our noble Danish centrehalf have picked up a fifth yellow card in Denmark's last match?

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- Something is not right with us after international breaks - we seem 'off it' a bit more than others - more players away perhaps or more air miles so every little helps - we've so many options now - saturday's especially big given the games coming up - (NT) -- Rupert, Monday, November 18, 08:48:01am (NoHost/90.193.226.124)
- Re: Bad Boy….since you’re asking me, my hunch is Joachim didn’t fancy it tonight against Mighty Mitro. Clearly wanted to be fit to face Wolves. Well played sir. (NT) -- Bad Boy, Monday, November 18, 10:55:23am (NoHost/2.222.160.125)
Apple wallet digital ticket -- Going, Sunday, November 17, 09:46:21am (host86-131-234-134.range86-131.btcentralplus.com/86.131.234.134)
My ticket still says Brentford not yet upgraded to Wolves. Anyone else in the same boat or have yours been updated?

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- Mine has been updated. (NT) -- Hammersmithender, Sunday, November 17, 10:16:42am (NoHost/31.94.14.27)
- Thanks (NT) -- Going, Sunday, November 17, 10:31:15am (host86-131-234-134.range86-131.btcentralplus.com/86.131.234.134)
- 3 red dots top right corner …….notifications ……auto updates switch off then back on and it should then update (NT) -- Mickey, Sunday, November 17, 10:39:42am (82-132-230-91.dab.02.net/82.132.230.91)
- Thanks Mickey it worked!! (NT) -- Going, Sunday, November 17, 12:55:05pm (host86-131-234-134.range86-131.btcentralplus.com/86.131.234.134)
- Be careful it doesn't disappear from the wallet. Forwarded my season ticket on to my brother for the Villa game. All went through no problems as it did for other games. Was there in the morning of the game but had somehow gone missing when he tried to get in the ground. Missed the first half hour of the game trying to sort it in the ticket office. Happens all the time apparently??he (NT) -- TSW, Sunday, November 17, 02:49:32pm (NoHost/31.94.34.144)
  - Re: Be careful it doesn't disappear from the wallet. New system is not fool proof. The Clubs and people who run it wont admit to it for obvious reason. But skimmming (close contact) happens as does hacking (is ffc ticketmaster secure?)and or course system errors (again software issues). Thats 3 ways your e-tickets disappear and it'll be your fault. (NT) -- warez lad, Sunday, November 17, 03:14:57pm (NoHost/23.154.177.10)
    - Weird it's not happened yet then. Maybe we should all use tor browsers to keep us safe online? (NT) -- Or are they for nonces and pervs/lonely old men?, Sunday, November 17, 04:51:14pm (82-132-234-45.dab.02.net/82.132.234.45)
- Somehow I deleted my season ticket from my Apple wallet. How can I get it back? (NT) -- PRB, Monday, November 18, 08:12:34am (NoHost/176.25.77.255)
  - Can you find the original email? Otherwise, the ticket office will assist. (NT) -- Observer, Monday, November 18, 09:54:44am (NoHost/90.192.125.76)
    - Ticket office sorted. Thanks. (NT) -- PRB, Monday, November 18, 10:50:52am (NoHost/176.25.77.255)
Apologies, this has been explained before. -- Juana Aorta, Sunday, November 17, 09:15:34am (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
I am a season ticket holder and I want to get my son a ticket for an upcoming away game. How do I, or he upload his name on the website to be able to qualify for this? He used be registered but the system is not recognising his name now.

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- See Step Six B in the following: https://www.fulhamfc.com/tickets-and-hospitality/digital-ticketing/ticket-forwarding-guide/ (NT) -- FFC in Brighton., Sunday, November 17, 10:27:44am (NoHost/90.242.139.237)
  - thanks (NT) -- Juana Aorta, Sunday, November 17, 11:32:52am (92.40.169.20.threembb.co.uk/92.40.169.20)
On the road. Best day out. Well maybe not the best but….Hereford back in the 90’s -- Bad Boy, Saturday, November 16, 03:25:45pm (NoHost/2.222.160.125)
Our paths will never cross again, but we never beat them at Edgar Street after 4 or 5 visits. Several hundred away fans made the, er, pointless journey. Ticker tape swirling in the wind….a ground, alas, I’ll never re-visit.

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- The 1-0 defeat in the mid seventies was a fun Weekend.Apart from Campbells Shambles. (NT) -- HemelRog, Saturday, November 16, 04:05:57pm (NoHost/31.94.13.20)
- Yes, went three times in the mid nineties during that 4th division stint, and didn't even see us score. Two 0-0's either side of a 1-0 defeat. The 0-0 in the Adams season, we had a couple of thousands there, and it was the last, what i would consider 'dangerous' terrace condition, as we were absolutely packed into one of the pens with one to the right of us that was completely unused, but they wouldn't open it. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Saturday, November 16, 04:08:13pm (NoHost/90.241.124.131)
- Les Barrett's last game. (NT) -- Hammersmithender, Saturday, November 16, 04:38:30pm (NoHost/31.94.14.27)
  - He’s a nice unassuming chap. My nephews wife’s uncle. He hasn’t been back to the cottage which is a shame. He has his reasons but maybe the club didn’t reach out a hand? (NT) -- CB, Saturday, November 16, 10:57:26pm (216-213-134-116.customer.gigaclear.net/216.213.134.116)
    - He did return for that "last" home match against Leicester. Other than that what a shame he hasn't visited. Surely he should be due a Forever Fulham soon. (NT) -- Hammersmithender, Sunday, November 17, 10:23:00am (NoHost/31.94.14.27)
- Went with my son to the game in the Adams' promotion season. Got seats in the stand and remember thinking the away end was a bit packed. Sat 6 seats along from long time fan Ray Brooks. (NT) -- Jamie, Saturday, November 16, 07:56:43pm (NoHost/31.94.62.59)
  - Yep, my only visit as well, really dull goaless draw, still rankles we did not win the league, although we did in a way, would have won all three Football League championships, and not many can say that.... (NT) -- Rupert, Sunday, November 17, 09:22:05am (NoHost/90.193.226.124)
- Went a couple of times, last time during the Adams promotion season, a lot more than several hundred of us there that day. Remember it well because nearly knocked myself out jumping up & smacking my head on a steel roof support when Darren Freeman rolled one past the post (NT) -- TSW, Sunday, November 17, 08:11:32am (NoHost/31.94.34.145)
  - I'm sure i had a beer with you in the firkin pub in the town that day. That was their biggest gate of the season by a mile. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Monday, November 18, 08:46:32am (NoHost/90.241.124.131)
- Vague recollection of pool balls and glasses being thrown by FFC and Hereford supporters in the upstairs of a pub. No recollection of any of the matches I went to over there. Quite a pleasant car journey for a short while, with a river on the left hand side if the memory isn't too addled. (NT) -- The Moose, Sunday, November 17, 08:16:37am (NoHost/31.94.31.43)
- Re: On the road. Best day out. Well maybe not the best but….Hereford back in the 90’s -- Barry (Barry by the sea), Sunday, November 17, 10:52:27am (host86-138-63-237.range86-138.btcentralplus.com/86.138.63.237)
- Steve Bull played a few games Hereford. Wonder if there are other examples of players whose name fitted their club? (NT) -- Bexhill Beast, Sunday, November 17, 02:17:07pm (host86-138-155-191.range86-138.btcentralplus.com/86.138.155.191)
  - Doudou and Shittu. Both played for QPR (NT) -- smartypants, Sunday, November 17, 07:28:38pm (65.51.208.46.dyn.plus.net/46.208.51.65)
    - Re: Easy to beat them! Peter Grinham , nicknamed Spigs played for them Hahas. Jim@Devon claims although theres zero evidence to have played Professially. Likely played for Manure? and finally Cummings our Mod plays daily for those down the Road. Hero likely JT, gambler and Granny ffucker extroiaire! (NT) -- lineker in crisps death mixup, Sunday, November 17, 08:58:50pm (LuxembourgTorNew6.Quetzalcoatl-relays.org/107.189.8.133)
      - Re: Easy to beat them! Dear Lord missed the worse of the lot. Some fella born and bred in Kent comes to Fulham to study. takes over the Fulham supports trust 'played everyone' Gillham lad Tommy Geez and his cohorts from Devon (ALL no Fulham connections) steal funds and uses Fulham FC.FST on their faked CV's to make a living in low level politics. As NO true FFC man/men would STOP the owner of FFC from buying Wembelly and moving FFC to a modern 90k ground!!!?? (NT) -- where we find Nuclear saleman?, Sunday, November 17, 09:17:52pm (NoHost/45.138.16.240)
- Re: On the road. Best day out. Well maybe not the best but….Hereford back in the 90’s (NT) -- Scum blues fans smashed our coaches, Monday, November 18, 01:23:26am (host-217-8-22-33.as13285.net/217.8.22.33)
Watch non league Saturday -- Red Kev, Friday, November 15, 06:33:31pm (NoHost/206.245.206.124)
As Fulham are not playing Saturday, why not go to watch your local non league team. My choice is Reading City and i will be there at 3pm to see them win against Berks County.

Anyone near Reading is welcome and I will by a pint for anyone wearing a fulham shirt or scarf.

Otherwise pick your local team take a few mates and enjoy grass roots football Reading City is £8 entry and outside the national league football is cheap and you drink beer while watching the game!

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- Always do! (NT) -- Waterboy, Saturday, November 16, 12:06:41am (NoHost/84.65.40.204)
- Lewes v AFC Totton in the FA Trophy for me today. Lewes' Dripping Pan came out top in some "most beautiful stadium" article thing, with Craven Cottage second. Seems I'm addicted to lovely places to watch football. (NT) -- Travelex, Saturday, November 16, 08:11:06am (cpc104102-brig22-2-0-cust617.3-3.cable.virginm.net/82.9.38.106)
- If anyone lives near Bognor, get down to the Carshalton game. About 30 Germans (Viktoria Koln fans) coming across for theirannual Carshalton away game. Probably more Carshalton fans from South London. So we're taking over the Waterloo pub near the seafront! (NT) -- Wilson MacDonald, Saturday, November 16, 08:19:24am (host81-141-96-221.range81-141.btcentralplus.com/81.141.96.221)
  - Shame. I lived in Bognor for 12 years until recently. I would have gone to that and I liked the Waterloo pub. (NT) -- Hammersmithender, Saturday, November 16, 04:28:37pm (NoHost/31.94.14.27)
- Re: Watch non league Saturday??? FFCUK non-league.. we'll bee at home wathcing them likes of Harvey Elliot, Fabio Carvilho, Joao Plahinia, Tosin Asswhatsithisname, Matt Oreally, Zambo and Aleksandar Mitrovic PLay for their Countries this weekend .. (NT) -- davey jones, Saturday, November 16, 11:43:54am (NoHost/23.154.177.5)
- Cobham vs Epsom & Ewell (NT) -- Up the Salts, Saturday, November 16, 12:33:04pm (host86-173-152-154.range86-173.btcentralplus.com/86.173.152.154)
- It was a good game, City won 3 1 and a group from Oslo joined us as they had tickets for a postponed game at the crap ground by the M4. (NT) -- red hev, Saturday, November 16, 05:32:48pm (NoHost/206.245.206.124)
Most horrible clubs in Britain -- Ciaran O'Connor, Friday, November 15, 02:49:56pm (NoHost/31.94.14.10)
Gillingham, Brentford, Liverpool, Celtic, Chelsea - anyone who disagrees i'll foightcha

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- Not overly fond of Rangers, West Ham or Spurs either. (NT) -- Neil G, Friday, November 15, 03:18:07pm (NoHost/62.64.164.110)
- Gillingham? Brentford? Little Fulham-er alert. (NT) -- Think big, Friday, November 15, 03:21:21pm (NoHost/90.213.242.75)
  - Life-began-in-the-Premier-League muppet alert (NT) -- Travelex, Saturday, November 16, 11:48:11am (cpc104102-brig22-2-0-cust617.3-3.cable.virginm.net/82.9.38.106)
    - ?? First game 1983. Fulham have too many small-minded fans getting riled by the likes of Brentford. Full of admiration for the bees - tiny club who do wonders on a small budget. Nothing but respect for them. We need to think about paying back Atletico in Europe... (NT) -- Think big, Saturday, November 16, 12:40:33pm (NoHost/90.213.242.75)
      - Brentford who detest us and gillingham who still bring up THAT day - yeah good reasons to like them, oddball eejit (NT) -- Ciaran o'Connor, Saturday, November 16, 03:21:18pm (NoHost/31.94.15.57)
        
        Only oddball here is you, probably hoping for a League one encounter with Gillingham. People like you get the club you deserve. Prick. And no, irony of someone called Ciaran o'Connor calling other people idiots is not lost on me. (NT) -- Think big, Sunday, November 17, 12:55:05pm (NoHost/90.213.242.75)
      - If you can't understand why people think Gillingham is a horrible club, then i'm shocked you go back that long. Its not about aspiration, in their case. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Saturday, November 16, 04:13:41pm (NoHost/90.241.124.131)
- MK Dons, they really should drop Dons from their name and just call themselves Milton Keynes City. Chelsea because their owners have been manipulating the transfer system for years. Newcastle United and Man City because of their state ownership, and how this will affect football and helps to hide their dodgy human rights violations, Glasgow Rangers because of their unionist affiliation. And lastly Spurs, because growing up in North London, their fans were just too cock sure for my liking. (NT) -- Juana Aorta, Friday, November 15, 03:26:17pm (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
- Don't disagree with you but quite fancy a fight. (NT) -- Big Bazza, Friday, November 15, 04:37:49pm (unn-149-34-242-63.datapacket.com/149.34.242.63)
- Liverpool - horrible ethos, attitude to others, sense of entitlement. Did research degree there - hated the place! And their much-lauded fans? Vile people (NT) -- Andrew in Bath, Friday, November 15, 10:53:37pm (NoHost/90.220.13.200)
- Derby (NT) -- Never forget nor forgive Derwent scum, Saturday, November 16, 12:12:52am (host109-159-23-58.range109-159.btcentralplus.com/109.159.23.58)
- How did no one mention Burnley! (NT) -- bs, Saturday, November 16, 02:07:16am (NoHost/90.196.2.45)
- Sutton United (NT) -- Wilson MacDonald, Saturday, November 16, 08:28:40am (host81-141-96-221.range81-141.btcentralplus.com/81.141.96.221)
- Birmingham… only place I’ve ever truly felt scared at the football. Animals (NT) -- Just visiting, Saturday, November 16, 08:28:52am (host51-14-71-252.range51-14.btcentralplus.com/51.14.71.252)
- The two Glasgow bigots,WHU,Gillingham,Burnley(total inbreds),Birmingham(my eldest was shitting himself),Chelsea plus The Bitters and QPRLite.Don’t like many.Us,Hearts,Partick,QOTS,Oldham(sleeping giants,Walsall and Everton(some scummy fans though.). (NT) -- HemelRog, Saturday, November 16, 09:07:55am (5ec0f8a7.skybroadband.com/94.192.248.167)
  - Oh and Notts County. (NT) -- HemelRog, Saturday, November 16, 09:40:10am (5ec0f8a7.skybroadband.com/94.192.248.167)
- West Ham.....ripped up Bishop's Park, Tevezgate, and thoroughly unlikeable. (NT) -- Zvezdara Boy, Saturday, November 16, 10:13:02pm (178-220-177-72.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs/178.220.177.72)
- Brentford Celtic Liverpool Gillingham and Arsenal (NT) -- Old Fulham boy, Sunday, November 17, 09:11:53am (host109-149-57-196.range109-149.btcentralplus.com/109.149.57.196)
- Loftus Road, Stamford Bridge, Priestfield & St Andrews. (NT) -- Swanny, Sunday, November 17, 09:25:41am (host-92-18-77-165.as13285.net/92.18.77.165)
- Preston North End down to visit in 1971 (NT) -- PW, Sunday, November 17, 02:10:29pm (host31-126-131-26.range31-126.btcentralplus.com/31.126.131.26)
  - Ah PNE, remember it well. Train back looked like it was returning from the trenches. Had to make a stop in Lichfield so medical treatment could be given to one of our lads. (NT) -- Al, Sunday, November 17, 04:34:28pm (NoHost/193.17.86.250)
    - I was on that train. Horrendous. Preston fans ambushed us all the way back from the ground to the station. Many hurt including femails. (NT) -- Fulham Stu, Sunday, November 17, 07:44:39pm (NoHost/90.211.240.40)
      - is that another new gender? (NT) -- Hammersmithender, Monday, November 18, 10:23:54am (NoHost/185.111.131.198)
      - So was I my mate ended up in University College Hospital although to be fair he did fall over on the train and broke his collar bone (NT) -- PW, Wednesday, November 20, 12:56:32pm (NoHost/163.116.162.211)
  - We were attacked on the way back to the station.No colours and had my mates now wife was with us.The old what’s time lads trick.Of course some would say we provoked them.Mate had cut eyes and my clothes were slashed.The young bloke who used to where a Glasgow Rangers scarf was the one badly injured. (NT) -- HemelRog, Monday, November 18, 10:47:26am (5ec0f8a7.skybroadband.com/94.192.248.167)
ESR and Reiss Nelson thinking.... -- tuchels mate, Thursday, November 14, 07:14:00pm (NoHost/91.208.75.239)
Madueke and Gordon. Gallagher and Curtis Jones.

Better than us? nd thats just the starters... subs defo?

Carsley been on the Calsberg??

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- Negative boring England …they make Parker look exciting (NT) -- Ffc, Thursday, November 14, 08:35:07pm (host86-173-64-100.range86-173.btcentralplus.com/86.173.64.100)
  - 3-0 says otherwise. You're not very good at this are you? (NT) -- GA, Thursday, November 14, 09:56:51pm (ool-18b90125.dyn.optonline.net/24.185.1.37)
  - Good performance against a form team.You do talk some. (NT) -- HemelRog, Thursday, November 14, 10:23:24pm (5ec0f8a7.skybroadband.com/94.192.248.167)
  - Have you ever, and I mean EVER, said anything positive about Fulham or England? Or just been positive about anything in general? It must be fcuking killing you with Fulham doing so well this season, and not many opportunities for you to have a bitch. You really are an odd character. (NT) -- Spencer, Friday, November 15, 01:01:46am (cpc115930-epso6-2-0-cust526.6-3.cable.virginm.net/81.107.246.15)
- Re: ESR and Reiss Nelson thinking.... (NT) -- Jordan Pickford top notch tonight MOM, Friday, November 15, 12:12:26am (host-217-8-22-33.as13285.net/217.8.22.33)
  - Always makes me laugh when people bang on about how shite he is.Getting more eccentric by the day but can never remember him letting England down. (NT) -- HemelRog, Friday, November 15, 08:20:56am (5ec0f8a7.skybroadband.com/94.192.248.167)
    - He's got a rep as a shot-stopper because he's jittery, makes defenders feel anxious and so we concede more shots. Compare him to Leno, who exudes calm. Pickford makes Hollywood saves, but a calmer more composed keeper who gave his defenders confidence wouldn't have to pull off so many saves. In the modern game, top keepers have a greater role to play in just bringing calm and composure to a defence. Pickford doesn't do that. England is crying out for a top keeper and has been for years. (NT) -- G, Friday, November 15, 09:22:06am (NoHost/109.144.28.227)
      - Absolute rubbish IMO only of course.Leno top keeper but beaten too often from distance these days.More Elstree than Hollywood. (NT) -- HemelRog, Friday, November 15, 09:27:29am (5ec0f8a7.skybroadband.com/94.192.248.167)
      - Ever looked at how many goals England have conceded at tournaments since Pickford was in goal? It’s quite a low number for someone who makes all the defenders jittery and anxious. I think stones/maguire/pickford went about 6 games without conceding a goal in tournament football at one point. The stats don’t lie, he’s been a really good keeper for England and nobody is knocking on the door to replace him. (NT) -- Henry1879, Friday, November 15, 09:53:04am (mx-ll-183.88.221-145.dynamic.3bb.in.th/183.88.221.145)
      - He was brilliant last night. I have to admit I'm not a fan. He gives me the jitters, let alone his defenders. The truth is, there are no real alternatives yet. -- CB, Friday, November 15, 01:01:15pm (216-213-134-116.customer.gigaclear.net/216.213.134.116)
  - I agree with eg HemelRog and Henry - he has made v few mistakes in the matches that matter - and for me that is always the primary determinative factor for keepers.- (NT) -- f bloke, Friday, November 15, 01:12:41pm (host86-134-9-66.range86-134.btcentralplus.com/86.134.9.66)
- Re: ESR and Reiss Nelson thinking.... (NT) -- What about a sneaky bid for Pickford in January., Friday, November 15, 01:52:22pm (host-217-8-22-33.as13285.net/217.8.22.33)
  - I hope I never have to endure the sight of Jordan Pickford in a Fulham shirt. Just depressing. I know we will be at the top of a very slippery slope if that happens... (NT) -- G, Friday, November 15, 03:19:47pm (NoHost/90.213.242.75)
    - What is your strange agenda?He is excellent.Must be a victims fan. (NT) -- HemelRof, Friday, November 15, 04:52:34pm (NoHost/31.94.74.76)
Are spurs away tickets sold out? Wanted to be sure if it will get to members -- Ciaran o'Connor, Thursday, November 14, 02:30:43pm (NoHost/31.94.74.0)
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- Not sold out yet. There's currently about 170 seats still showing on the seat map. (NT) -- smartypants, Thursday, November 14, 02:58:40pm (65.51.208.46.dyn.plus.net/46.208.51.65)
- Loads left, There's a whole block that hasn't even gone on sale yet. Odd having 14 day staggered points sale dates for a Sunday lunchtime ko when a 3pm sat KO at Palace , where loads of Fulham live nearby & a smaller allocation had no loyalty points?? (NT) -- TSW, Thursday, November 14, 05:21:40pm (NoHost/31.94.18.174)
- They've now opened the last block, looking at seat map I'd say around two thirds overall are sold. Possible it will get to members because I'd have thought most season ticket holders would have enough points to have bought by now. Agree the extreme staggering seems a bit OTT. (NT) -- JamieR, Friday, November 15, 11:12:37am (NoHost/171.33.195.182)
Brentford "pitch invader" -- Jimmy Hill's Chin, Thursday, November 14, 12:57:36pm (NoHost/51.52.80.49)
Was looking on Facebook and saw a post about the guy who celebrated on the pitch with the players after Harry's winner.

Apparently he has been given a 5 year ban from the club and is being taken to court for invading the pitch.

Personally I think that is far too severe a punishment. What do you guys think?

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- He was on the Far Right of the pitch from his seat, what do you expect? (NT) -- Wayne, Thursday, November 14, 01:12:54pm (host5-81-94-228.range5-81.btcentralplus.com/5.81.94.228)
- Well if it was on Facebook, it must be true... (NT) -- MAGA, Thursday, November 14, 01:50:52pm (NoHost/90.213.242.75)
- I believe the FA & Premier League have binding rules requiring a ban & reporting to the police under the Football Offenses Act. Harsh, perhaps. But we all know what those rules arose out of. Only thing positive was the way that Muniz & one other player (not sure who) intervened. The stewards were about to grab him & it could've escalated. I thought they showed real maturity to grab him as if they were celebrating with him & quickly escort him off. De-escalated that really well. (NT) -- eganonoa, Thursday, November 14, 03:01:39pm (unn-154-47-22-103.datapacket.com/154.47.22.103)
- Taken to court, surely not? Regular supporter for years, hardly caused an issue celebrating but get the club have to do something to tick a box. But that is mad, if true. Mind you tough being a ‘legacy’ fan nowadays…. (NT) -- woodman, Thursday, November 14, 06:21:39pm (NoHost/45.88.60.61)
- Re: Brentford "pitch invader" (NT) -- Should be made to sit in the Riverside for 5 years, Friday, November 15, 12:14:57am (host-217-8-22-33.as13285.net/217.8.22.33)
  - That;s horrible - 15 minutes of sensory deprovation can affect you permanently (NT) -- ASPT, Friday, November 15, 12:22:54am (114-129-187-208.ip4.superloop.au/114.129.187.208)
- Incredibly harsh, if true, once in a lifetime experience... we don't get them moments very often at Fulham... we should start a campaign, justice for the Fulham One.... (NT) -- Rupert, Friday, November 15, 10:29:00am (NoHost/90.193.226.124)
  - My understanding is that he doesn't want anyone making a fuss or complaining to club until after the court case, but yes, agree with the sentiment (NT) -- Same Old Story, Friday, November 15, 11:27:48am (NoHost/90.241.124.131)
    - Advise him to obtain legal advice T, if he has not already done so. (NT) -- Barry@ENF, Friday, November 15, 04:37:21pm (2e400676.skybroadband.com/46.64.6.118)
- Get 2 years for hurty words on facebook while pedos walk the streets, who knows anymore (NT) -- Waterboy, Friday, November 15, 01:23:59pm (NoHost/84.65.50.92)
  - Certainly not you. (NT) -- HemelRog, Friday, November 15, 04:55:08pm (NoHost/31.94.74.77)
Riverside Stand -- Kimberly- Clark, Thursday, November 14, 02:09:34am (host-217-8-22-33.as13285.net/217.8.22.33)
Seen a few video clips of the Brentford Finale from the New Stand. Is it me I’m not sure. But the Supporters didn’t celebrate the H goals like real fans no one was going nuts they appeared to be day trippers.

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- Jesus. So the fact they spent £100 to go and watch Fulham play when they could have sat and watched it at home doesn't make them a real fan? Next! Move on, you lost, 2-1!! Super Harry Wilson!!! (NT) -- Freddie Fulham, Thursday, November 14, 08:27:57am (NoHost/90.213.242.75)
- You obviously don’t sit in the Riverside or you wouldn’t have made such a sweeping statement. Noisy as hell around me. (NT) -- KB, Thursday, November 14, 08:28:01am (static-115-151-85-188.ipcom.comunitel.net/188.85.151.115)
- Do we know how many season ticket holders there are in the riverside? (NT) -- Waterboy, Thursday, November 14, 08:31:03am (NoHost/84.65.50.92)
- If that was true, what does it mean to you? (NT) -- Juana Aorta, Thursday, November 14, 09:22:31am (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
- P.S to be fair to them, if I'd paid £100 for a ticket, I would have been disappointed it wasn't a Harry Wilson injury-time hat-trick. THEN I would have probably got out of my seat and shouted 'Bravo!' (NT) -- Freddie Fulham, Thursday, November 14, 09:40:20am (NoHost/90.213.242.75)
- High up in the Riverside is the best seat in football, breathtaking. 25,000 for Brentford on a Monday night with some tickets north of £100 was pretty impressive... cheap at the price, given the once in a lifetime finale. (NT) -- Rupert, Thursday, November 14, 09:45:44am (NoHost/90.193.226.124)
  - The opening poster trying to compare chalk and cheese. I’m 79 and my wife 72, been season ticket holders for 20 years and sit in Riverside. Does he expect us to be able to jump around as easily as the younger element behind the Hammersmith goal. He needs to get realistic and get a life (NT) -- K, Thursday, November 14, 09:59:09am (static-115-151-85-188.ipcom.comunitel.net/188.85.151.115)
    - Can relate to that as Block T s/t holder prior to demolition. Seldom much noise that would reach across the pitch, but intense concentration all around, from rows and rows of people (average age not low) highly involved in the match. First return visit there is pending v. Wolves when I hope for similar company and not just selfie-takers. (NT) -- b+w g., Thursday, November 14, 10:30:36am (68.52.159.143.dyn.plus.net/143.159.52.68)
      - We were relocated to the Putney End from Block T and haven't gone back - I think that's true of many around us, season ticket holders for many years but priced out of the Riverside now. Decent view from our current seat but I do miss being in close proximity to the Hammersmith End atmosphere and the 'home' goal. (NT) -- JamieR, Thursday, November 14, 11:47:13am (NoHost/171.33.195.182)
        
        Were you offered the chance to relocate to the Hammersmith End? (NT) -- Just curious, Thursday, November 14, 12:09:44pm (NoHost/90.213.242.75)
        
        No, just allocated a Putney End seat, I guess the only stand with space enough to move people en masse (NT) -- JamieR, Thursday, November 14, 02:42:17pm (NoHost/171.33.195.182)
      - We had a similar experience during years in Block W - it never felt like a tourist haven and every goal was celebrated as you would expect anywhere in the ground. The Cottage acoustic is a bit strange though; because whenever I have been in the Hamersmith End it has never seemed quiet, but from the Putney End sometimes it seems so. (NT) -- Barry@ENF, Thursday, November 14, 11:10:05pm (cpc95104-newt39-2-0-cust313.19-3.cable.virginm.net/77.101.245.58)
        
        Further to that, in terms of the strangeness, i've been both on the pitch and pitchside, and the noise carries to the pitch from the stands (yes, even the riverside!) far more than you'd expect. Stand to stand it's never seemed massively loud to me, but you can definitely hear it on the pitch (NT) -- Same Old Story, Friday, November 15, 01:21:08pm (NoHost/90.241.124.131)
        
        Are you a former player? (NT) -- Hammersmithender, Friday, November 15, 01:39:49pm (NoHost/185.111.131.198)
        
        Sadly not mate (NT) -- Same Old Story, Friday, November 15, 02:04:45pm (NoHost/90.241.124.131)
        
        That confirms my feeling, in that the Riverside felt just as loud with "Stuff" happening as anywhere else; though calmer and reflective for much of the game. As an aside, I remember spotting Jean Tigana with toothpick in Block X before his appointment. (NT) -- Barry@ENF, Friday, November 15, 04:45:10pm (2e400676.skybroadband.com/46.64.6.118)
- Re: Riverside Stand (NT) -- Free Tickets in Riverside vs Bees like confetti, Thursday, November 14, 04:47:59pm (host-217-8-22-33.as13285.net/217.8.22.33)
- The video you are talking about was someone whipping their phone out about 5 seconds after each goal. Fast forward another 5 seconds and no one is still jumping about. That's just how it goes (NT) -- TT(1), Thursday, November 14, 10:07:22pm (NoHost/194.35.232.110)
- Re: Riverside Stand (NT) -- Pet hate filming goal celebrations just celebrate, Friday, November 15, 12:18:09am (host-217-8-22-33.as13285.net/217.8.22.33)
Cootes -- TT(1), Wednesday, November 13, 07:49:00pm (NoHost/91.196.222.137)
What an idiot, being filmed slagging off managers and snorting.

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- The latest video has holed him below the waterline... he must have really, really upset someone. Premier League say they are offering him support... how woke is that! (NT) -- Rupert, Thursday, November 14, 09:47:31am (NoHost/90.193.226.124)
  - OFFERING SUPPORT? How disgraceful - no wonder the world is falling apart. There was no support in my day and we were better off without it. (NT) -- The Man With No Name, Thursday, November 14, 10:02:47am (55.5.125.91.dyn.plus.net/91.125.5.55)
  - Not really. A mate who took that video would know it was worth money to sell to a paper. All he has to do is cancel a night with his mates last minute and that's enough (NT) -- FF, Thursday, November 14, 02:18:11pm (NoHost/194.35.232.110)
- Before taking sides, shouldn't we do more to establish whethe Jurgen Klopp is, in fact, a c**t? (NT) -- Sherlock, Thursday, November 14, 05:28:20pm (NoHost/90.213.242.75)
Junior ticket -- Marbles, Wednesday, November 13, 06:59:22pm (nmal-23-b2-v4wan-169317-cust728.vm24.cable.virginm.net/81.96.234.217)
I know it’s unlikely but I thought I would ask the question anyway, can you buy an adult ticket on an junior season ticket?

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- If you mean can you use the season ticket holders entitlement to buy an adult ticket fir an away game, even if the season ticket is a junior ST, then the answer is yes. (NT) -- Wolfie Smith, Wednesday, November 13, 07:26:40pm (host31-54-116-47.range31-54.btcentralplus.com/31.54.116.47)
  - Thanks 👍 (NT) -- Marbles, Wednesday, November 13, 07:40:47pm (nmal-23-b2-v4wan-169317-cust728.vm24.cable.virginm.net/81.96.234.217)
Boa Morte has applied for Coventry City job! -- G, Wednesday, November 13, 03:18:00pm (NoHost/90.213.242.75)

<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="https://www.coventrytelegraph.net/sport/football/football-news/coventry-manager-luis-boa-morte-30362597">https://www.coventrytelegraph.net/sport/football/football-news/coventry-manager-luis-boa-morte-30362597</a>

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- Re: Boa Morte . Why soo Kean to return to these shores? And club ball? Did Fulham force him out? (NT) -- Pip, Wednesday, November 13, 08:23:52pm (host-81-179-146-6.static.as13285.net/81.179.146.6)
  - He didn’t look like he had been forced out at the Brentford game. And English football is the dream for a majority of managers. So I hope he does really well at Coventry if he gets it, and I hope he is in contention to replace Marco when the day sadly comes , that he has decided to leave us. Who would say no to boa. (NT) -- Hg, Wednesday, November 13, 09:04:30pm (NoHost/31.94.28.7)
    - Me. He needs to prove himself first. (NT) -- Hammersmithender, Friday, November 15, 08:34:05pm (NoHost/31.94.74.172)
- Me ! Never liked the diving , spitting cheat ! (NT) -- Ted, Thursday, November 14, 09:56:06am (NoHost/90.206.40.11)
  - Thanks for sharing. (NT) -- President Mad Boa Fan Club. (HemelRog), Thursday, November 14, 10:23:50am (5ec0f8a7.skybroadband.com/94.192.248.167)
Daft songs for players. -- Juana Aorta, Wednesday, November 13, 02:36:16pm (host-78-146-137-228.as13285.net/78.146.137.228)
Guess which current player would fit this?

Go grease lightning you're burning up the quarter mile
(Grease lightning, go grease lightning)
Go grease lightning you're coasting through the heat lap trials
(Grease lightning go grease lightning)
You are supreme, the chicks'll cream for grease lightning.

And how did they get away with those lyrics in such a mainstream film!

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- I would suggest we didn't live in such an oversensitive society. Or at least a society that filmakers and the performing arts generally believe is oversensitive. I remember watching it at a reasonably young age, (probably 6 or 7), and, rather than being traumatised by the adult content or words, i just didn't really understand them and went about my day. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Wednesday, November 13, 02:42:29pm (webdefence-pool-02.cluster-j.forcepoint.net/85.115.54.202)
  - I asked my Mum what creaming meant, and she said it was a symptom of vaginal thrush. (NT) -- Juana Aorta, Wednesday, November 13, 03:22:19pm (92.40.168.70.threembb.co.uk/92.40.168.70)
    - that actually made me laugh out loud (NT) -- Same Old Story, Wednesday, November 13, 03:40:03pm (webdefence-pool-02.cluster-j.forcepoint.net/85.115.54.202)
- Harrison Reed? (NT) -- p, Wednesday, November 13, 02:52:42pm (NoHost/90.213.242.75)
  - dont be silly (NT) -- Juana Aorta, Wednesday, November 13, 03:17:59pm (92.40.168.70.threembb.co.uk/92.40.168.70)
- Thanks for putting that earworm in my head for this afternoon. My brain cannot stop playing Greased Lightning on repeat. Song can only be for Adama surely? (NT) -- JoeT, Wednesday, November 13, 04:55:00pm (NoHost/86.53.126.68)
  - It's been my 'ear worm' recently. This post is too share the load. Not Adama sadly. (NT) -- Juana Aorta, Wednesday, November 13, 05:05:12pm (92.40.168.70.threembb.co.uk/92.40.168.70)
    - Harry boy surely. More of a Dylan man myself. (NT) -- CB, Wednesday, November 13, 06:12:43pm (216-213-134-116.customer.gigaclear.net/216.213.134.116)
      - Not Harry. Has a Dylan ever made it on to the terraces? (NT) -- Juana Aorta, Wednesday, November 13, 07:19:58pm (host-78-146-137-228.as13285.net/78.146.137.228)
        
        Someone should have used the chorus to 'Wheels on Fire' but don't think they ever did. 'Desolation Row' etc. probably not. (NT) -- b+w g., Wednesday, November 13, 07:57:54pm (68.52.159.143.dyn.plus.net/143.159.52.68)
        
        Jedi's on the left wing, tearing up their right back, I’m in the Hanny End, thinkin’ about the Europe trips, (NT) -- ASPT, Friday, November 15, 12:40:21am (114-129-187-208.ip4.superloop.au/114.129.187.208)
        
        Inspired. (For an Italian rendering Google 'Acido seminterrato' by Francesco De Gregori. Ends "Non cercare le maniglie/Le hanno prese i vandali") (NT) -- b+w g., Friday, November 15, 08:42:10am (host109-154-238-80.range109-154.btcentralplus.com/109.154.238.80)
- Reiss lightening. (NT) -- GA, Thursday, November 14, 08:40:14pm (ool-18b90125.dyn.optonline.net/24.185.1.37)
  - Well done! (NT) -- Juana Aorta, Thursday, November 14, 09:00:43pm (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
  - Although I was ear worming 'Go Reiss Nelson'. (NT) -- Juana Aorta, Thursday, November 14, 09:05:19pm (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
Arsenal at home ticket prices -- Samuel, Wednesday, November 13, 10:48:58am (82-132-213-241.dab.02.net/82.132.213.241)
<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="https://www.fulhamfc.com/tickets-and-hospitality/match-tickets/arsenal-tickets/">https://www.fulhamfc.com/tickets-and-hospitality/match-tickets/arsenal-tickets/</a>
£160 Riverside, £106 most of the JH

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- Re: Arsenal at home ticket prices. AND? fed up of fans trying to stir bad setiment. These tickets labeled as Hospitaily. Clearly include A programme and set meals and set drinks. which circa for at least £50. So in effect your paying £100 for your seat with view in the NEW pier stand and only £50 (bargain ) for seat inside the JHS (NT) -- jimbob acton, Wednesday, November 13, 12:06:04pm (2.58.56.43.powered.by.rdp.sh/2.58.56.43)
  - That’s just for a seat. God knows who pays that, I know none of my mates would dream of paying that much. (NT) -- Pablo, Wednesday, November 13, 04:15:49pm (hari-18-b2-v4wan-169870-cust2926.vm1.cable.virginm.net/92.239.251.111)
- For anyone on average London wage or a fair bit above, these are periodic treat kinds of prices, like taking in a West End show. And for top tier entertainment in the better seats that's hard to argue against -- but only on a notably higher income level would you be doing it more than occasionally. Those economics, more than subjective notions of 'posh' such as discussed below, are what differentiate ye olden dayes from now. (NT) -- b+w g., Wednesday, November 13, 12:07:26pm (68.52.159.143.dyn.plus.net/143.159.52.68)
  - What a lot of nonsense. There is no excuse for London club or not to charge this for a game of football. Pure greed. (NT) -- Samuel, Wednesday, November 13, 02:30:25pm (82-132-213-241.dab.02.net/82.132.213.241)
    - As 'excuses', the club would cite high wage bills, that it's loss-making, and that regulars can buy less pricey season-tickets. And treating a high-profile football match as if it's a high-profile West End show has some logic in itself. But I too prefer football (even in the top division) to be something averagely financed people can afford regularly, meaning they can truly follow their team. I became a supporter on that basis decades ago, but wonder if I would ever have got started today. (NT) -- b+w g., Wednesday, November 13, 06:50:56pm (68.52.159.143.dyn.plus.net/143.159.52.68)
- The ticket prices on the official board certainly don't include hospitality. That you have to buy seperately. (NT) -- Observer, Wednesday, November 13, 01:10:55pm (NoHost/90.192.125.76)
- At Fulham we are considerably richer than you. No more riff raff. We are the poshest club in the country. Indeed the Harrods of the Football :) (NT) -- Stavros, Wednesday, November 13, 06:08:17pm (216-213-134-116.customer.gigaclear.net/216.213.134.116)

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