- Variation -- Eerwah, Monday, March 16, 01:39:23am (customer.brseaus1.isp.starlink.com/206.83.123.137)
Dismal showing v Saints required fresh outlook accepting the high level of possession still produces very limited ability to create positive opportunities within opponent's box.
Keeping a clean sheet at Nottingham became first priority.
Next fixture should hopefully restore the confidence required for good displays at Anfield and Hounslow. Pointless passing around within our half can be occasionally replaced by weighted through balls down the channels. Upfield distribution from Leno or Andersen is reasonably accurate, why not use it sometimes together with Zamora style hold up play from the no9.
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- Sun Tzu quote ..... -- Art of War., Sunday, March 15, 07:21:07pm (NoHost/94.2.243.131)
If you can not embrace a total victory.....Nick a draw!
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- Who confidently thought that we would win? After the last 2 performances. We were poor, they were a knats poorer. Good enough for me and hanging on for mid-table. Think it's getting obvious Marco is off, and I reluctantly agree. We need a fresh start and can attract another quality manager. (NT) -- CB, Sunday, March 15, 07:41:25pm (213-18-181-177.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.181.177)
- This has been a poor season. We had one stretch of good play when we were stretched as a side with injuries and players off at another tournament, and the rest of the season has been manure. (NT) -- RR, Sunday, March 15, 07:47:38pm (NoHost/104.220.143.92)
- A poor season yet our best ever points per game in the top division. Weird. (NT) -- Jim©, Sunday, March 15, 08:27:23pm (host86-170-249-213.range86-170.btcentralplus.com/86.170.249.213)
- Not sure how you do maths, but you can believe that if you want, even though it is not true. (NT) -- RR, Sunday, March 15, 08:37:27pm (NoHost/104.220.143.92)
- We need 14 points from 8 games to beat the all time record. Which is just about doable if they buck the trend of recent years and finish a season strongly, but would need a couple of good away results out of the 4 left. (NT) -- Pablo, Sunday, March 15, 09:55:39pm (host86-136-222-68.range86-136.btcentralplus.com/86.136.222.68)
- We have to play Liverpool, Arsenal, Villa, Newcastle, Brentford, Bournemouth, Wolves, and Burnley. Wolves and Burnley will not be easy given how we are playing. We are at 1.36 points per game. No way we get 1.75 per match with this lot and this manager with the effort we’ve seen and the lack of confidence that is currently to being served up. (NT) -- RR, Sunday, March 15, 11:04:42pm (NoHost/104.220.143.92)
- He's a bit off. Currently on pace for 52 points, our 3rd best points total. If we beat Burnley next weekend, we will be on pace to equal last season's 54 point record. It's not exactly a "poor season" by our historical standards. It's likely to end in the top-5 seasons in the Premier League in terms of points. And thanks to the other results, we're still in the hunt for 8th. Still fully understand why people feel deflated. Could've been so much better. (NT) -- eganonoa, Sunday, March 15, 10:51:35pm (NoHost/151.243.141.27)
- Who cares about that I bet you were happy we beat our points record last season whilst having nothing to show for it god some of our fans are so easy to please now wonder the club doesn't care (NT) -- entitled apparently, Sunday, March 15, 09:55:26pm (NoHost/217.216.60.225)
- Any truth in the rumour -- Curious, Sunday, March 15, 05:08:01pm (NoHost/78.111.194.83)
That this website is being renamed Whinging Bastards Rest Home.
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- If a joke not very funny. In fact open your eyes and direct your sarcasm to the team and manager. (NT) -- Depressed, Sunday, March 15, 05:17:06pm (host81-159-178-64.range81-159.btcentralplus.com/81.159.178.64)
- Re: Any truth in the rumour (NT) -- Entitled fans , ridiculous reaction, Sunday, March 15, 05:28:58pm (host86-163-180-66.range86-163.btcentralplus.com/86.163.180.66)
- They're waiting fingers poised licking their lips for FFC to lose at Forest, the usual suspects few alias and new members to Woeisme Club (NT) -- Shaking in anticipation..., Sunday, March 15, 03:00:17pm (NT) -- I posted this earlier, Sunday, March 15, 05:30:11pm (NoHost/94.2.243.131)
- We are going to have some team next season -- Kingslayer, Sunday, March 15, 05:04:18pm (NoHost/109.79.82.50)
Kevin, Oscar Bobb, Muniz, ESR all due to come good next season
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- Could have gone 8th in the PL today … -- Ffc, Sunday, March 15, 04:56:29pm (97e1e33c.skybroadband.com/151.225.227.60)
No leaders on the pitch
No energy
No Pace
No aggression
No passion
No Ambition
Out of Spurs West Ham & Forest ….Forest easily the worse side we’ve played
There for the taking …..shame we just couldn’t be bothered
New voice in the dressing room needed for next season
Big shout out to all that travelled up to watch this shite
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- Well, happy with the point could have been worse. Seems this is the best we can. Hit a brick wall. Will have to scrap for points from here on. And folks see us in Europe. wtf. (NT) -- CB Running on empty, Sunday, March 15, 05:05:26pm (213-18-181-177.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.181.177)
- Because we're on the beach now none of them care and today it showed forest are awful but least looked like they wanted to win we looked like we couldn't wait to get home (NT) -- appalling, Sunday, March 15, 05:07:15pm (NoHost/217.216.60.93)
- That’s how Silva wants them to play, get ready for more boos Marco. It’s your team that is poor. (NT) -- Season ticket renewal 🤔, Sunday, March 15, 05:15:30pm (host86-184-57-142.range86-184.btcentralplus.com/86.184.57.142)
- At least we kept a clean sheet (NT) -- Paul Bracewell, Sunday, March 15, 05:22:00pm (92.40.171.165.threembb.co.uk/92.40.171.165)
- £100 million wasted on ESR, Kevin and Bobb. Our central midfield lacks Premier League quality and we depend on a 35 year old striker because there's no sufficient quality to replace him. All this was inevitable months ago. We need to rebuild the spine this summer. (NT) -- Samuel, Sunday, March 15, 05:29:15pm (NoHost/90.253.228.158)
- Muniz looking good since coming on -- Charlie J, Sunday, March 15, 04:45:03pm (host81-132-203-87.range81-132.btcentralplus.com/81.132.203.87)
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- Compared to what? (NT) -- ,, Sunday, March 15, 04:56:21pm (host-89-243-113-23.as13285.net/89.243.113.23)
- But has still not scored (NT) -- Depressed, Sunday, March 15, 04:58:45pm (host81-159-178-64.range81-159.btcentralplus.com/81.159.178.64)
- Yes he put himself about, the game suited him but still no cigar (NT) -- CB Maybe boxing ?, Sunday, March 15, 05:09:34pm (213-18-181-177.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.181.177)
- Agreed, best he’s been since returning. At least had a shot! (NT) -- Bexhill Beast, Sunday, March 15, 05:41:35pm (host86-142-67-240.range86-142.btcentralplus.com/86.142.67.240)
- Muniz is like Hugo Rodallega or Andy Johnson (NT) -- Next…., Sunday, March 15, 09:44:23pm (NoHost/90.216.99.103)
- He is coming back from a very long layoff . Same with Robinson who has in no way reached his top form but for some reason it’s always Muniz who gets slagged off . (NT) -- alanos, Monday, March 16, 01:15:45am (82-132-212-69.dab.02.net/82.132.212.69)
- 30 million for Oscar Bobb. Goodness -- Kingslayer, Sunday, March 15, 04:29:44pm (NoHost/64.43.50.76)
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- The invisible man (NT) -- Bob, Sunday, March 15, 04:38:04pm (NoHost/90.202.19.161)
- Worse still, how much was Andersen? (NT) -- Cutler 22, Sunday, March 15, 04:39:36pm (customer.sfiabgr1.isp.starlink.com/150.228.61.68)
- 3 goals in 48 matches for argubly the best attacking side in the league (NT) -- Waterboy, Sunday, March 15, 04:46:26pm (NoHost/90.242.53.3)
- Has football turned shit or is it just us? Falling out of love with the game. -- Bob, Sunday, March 15, 04:15:06pm (NoHost/90.202.19.161)
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- Where is the players reaction to the last two awful performances this isn’t good enough same slow turgid slow pace football -- Button, Sunday, March 15, 04:04:03pm (nmal-23-b2-v4wan-169190-cust1261.vm24.cable.virginm.net/80.5.116.238)
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- Fulham are on the beach walking pace football we should be standing on their neck but we are given them way to much respect. No intensity no quick passing snails pace football -- Button, Sunday, March 15, 04:00:15pm (NoHost/148.252.141.64)
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- Sander Berge is dreadful -- Ffc, Sunday, March 15, 03:32:07pm (97e1e33c.skybroadband.com/151.225.227.60)
Weak as 💩
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- Appears to be a dull match. I cling to hope they may tire in second half and we can benefit. One can only hope. (NT) -- Depressed, Sunday, March 15, 03:55:31pm (host81-159-178-64.range81-159.btcentralplus.com/81.159.178.64)
- We are so lightweight. Play pretty stuff but keep getting knocked off the ball. As you said Berge really is poor, get Lukic on and maybe even TC for the innective Iwobi (NT) -- Al, Sunday, March 15, 03:57:50pm (cust-51.179.207.198.cgn.as5482.net/51.179.207.198)
- Virtually everyone on that pitch is poor today. I get that Forest are nervous given their predicament but we should be playing with much more conviction. Looks like we’re just going through the motions at times. (NT) -- Bexhill Beast, Sunday, March 15, 04:03:56pm (host86-142-67-240.range86-142.btcentralplus.com/86.142.67.240)
- Surprised to see Anderson back in for Diop. -- HE, Sunday, March 15, 02:56:51pm (lewi-28-b2-v4wan-170336-cust618.vm4.cable.virginm.net/82.7.38.107)
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- Someone below said we need a big game out of ESR today -- Ffc, Sunday, March 15, 01:46:45pm (97e1e33c.skybroadband.com/151.225.227.60)
Not even in the squad today
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- Somehow Andersen and Robinson are back in which is worrying. (NT) -- Cutler 22, Sunday, March 15, 02:09:40pm (customer.sfiabgr1.isp.starlink.com/150.228.61.68)
- Re: Someone below said we need a big game out of ESR today (NT) -- Diop unfortunate not to start imo., Sunday, March 15, 02:21:37pm (host-2-102-164-149.as13285.net/2.102.164.149)
- Also not sure Leno being in team and starting with King too lightweight at present.Hope Iam proved wrong (NT) -- Depressed, Sunday, March 15, 02:23:54pm (host81-159-178-64.range81-159.btcentralplus.com/81.159.178.64)
- What a relief Raul and Harry start. COYW! (NT) -- CB, Sunday, March 15, 02:24:54pm (213-18-181-177.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.181.177)
- Re: Someone below said we need a big game out of ESR today (NT) -- Year ago wouldn’t have said how we missed H, Sunday, March 15, 02:25:47pm (host-2-102-164-149.as13285.net/2.102.164.149)
- Do you think... -- Dave, Sunday, March 15, 01:44:04pm (NoHost/90.218.113.108)
Do you think that Fulham will 'respect the ball' today like Chelsea did yesterday? Lol!
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- Muniz -- Kimberly-Clark, Sunday, March 15, 10:51:30am (host-2-102-164-149.as13285.net/2.102.164.149)
When in form and confidence is high top notch.Looks really in need of game time at present annd a Goal.So maybe Raul’s sad loss of his Father gives him the opportunity to regain some form. Although he will be probably be picking up and cuddling he’s fellow Brazilian compatriots that play Centre Back for Forest.
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- Championship at best. (NT) -- old codger, Sunday, March 15, 11:23:41am (86-3-237-96.pon.virginmedia.net/86.3.237.96)
- Re: Muniz (NT) -- Your better than Old Codger, Sunday, March 15, 11:55:21am (host-2-102-164-149.as13285.net/2.102.164.149)
- I'm still amazed by the faith some have in Muniz. Every appearance he makes, I prepare to get egg on my face. If he starts today, then the same applies. So I hope that Raul starts. But I fear the worst, regardless, after the recent 2 poor displays. (NT) -- CB, Sunday, March 15, 01:43:05pm (213-18-181-177.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.181.177)
- Big game needed out of ESR -- Fkev, Sunday, March 15, 07:51:04am (142.236.147.147.dyn.plus.net/147.147.236.142)
Woke up feeling quite bullish about our chances today, until I remembered : probably no Raul, Muniz looks bang out of form and Wilson possibly still injured. So who's going to score the goals? Need ESR and Iwobi to step up big time. I don't know the stats, but how many goals have our defenders chipped in this year?! I think Bassey has 1, Sess has 2, but is more of an attacking wingback. We must have one of the poorest defender goal records in the league. Didn't Coleman and Symons get almost 10 each one season?
Anyway - come on Emile!! Remarkably, despite being pretty awful recently, a win can put us into 8th and a Europa spot....
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- Have a gut feeling we will lose today hope I’m wrong. Forest have seen Westham pick up one point and likely Spurs lose at Liverpool later. Big game for them! (NT) -- J, Sunday, March 15, 09:08:08am (host-81-178-102-186.static.as13285.net/81.178.102.186)
- Re: Big game needed out of ESR (NT) -- Forest are due to hammer a team., Sunday, March 15, 10:37:03am (host-2-102-164-149.as13285.net/2.102.164.149)
- No home wins for Forest under this manager, Fulhamish!!! (NT) -- Al, Sunday, March 15, 10:39:16am (cust-51.179.207.198.cgn.as5482.net/51.179.207.198)
- Re: Big game needed out of ESR (NT) -- Just felt the other night their due goals, Sunday, March 15, 11:59:55am (host-2-102-164-149.as13285.net/2.102.164.149)
- Pretty sure Kit got 11 or 12 goals that season and Cookie had a few too… and we had Saha up top. What wouldn’t give for a prime Louis rn!? (NT) -- Just visiting, Sunday, March 15, 12:15:49pm (host86-168-84-174.range86-168.btcentralplus.com/86.168.84.174)
- season not over?!! -- coyws never truer!!!, Saturday, March 14, 08:57:07pm (ns575172.ip-51-222-40.net/51.222.40.83)
thanks to faultering Rosinor
A win tomorrow AND top 5... does it still get you CL?
is back on?
so despite the horrifty loss in the CUP. seasons not over yet?
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- Marco Silva & Harry Wilson -- Ben, Saturday, March 14, 12:10:19pm (NoHost/176.25.236.25)
Are we resigned to losing Harry for nothing at the end of season, if so it seems bizarre & the club lose out big time?
Does Harry signing a new contract depend on MS signing one? We clearly can't sack MS if results are bad as we'd have to pay him out.
At beginning of season Muniz was being 'touted' by a club maybe Leeds or Sunderland or both with talk of £50 million, what with not offloading for any price & now Robinson off his game touted at £40 million who is in charge of our transfer policy?
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- Hafry owes us, he was going nowhere. Needs to sign with a sell out clause. (NT) -- Al, Saturday, March 14, 12:19:41pm (cust-51.179.207.198.cgn.as5482.net/51.179.207.198)
- No way will he replicate this season for us or anyone else. Enjoy it while you can, he will rightly want to cash in while he is hot. Bobb is our future. (NT) -- Bugaloo’s Dad, Saturday, March 14, 01:03:02pm (NoHost/90.241.69.123)
- If we’d let Muniz Wilson and Robinson go for circa £100M, a new manager would have a decent carrot to invest. Unlikely to get anywhere near that valuation now. Maybe this is what is annoying the Khans. (NT) -- bs, Saturday, March 14, 02:08:46pm (NoHost/62.64.185.203)
- Sess also out of contract i believe (NT) -- Waterboy, Saturday, March 14, 04:00:58pm (NoHost/90.242.53.3)
- Silva asked be reporter in press conference today... -- p, Friday, March 13, 06:53:31pm (NoHost/90.204.91.94)
"Never seen the Fulham fanbase react like they did to the Southampton defeat, do you think they're losing faith in you?"
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- Silva quite tetchy...worth a watch: https://www.fulhamfc.com/videos/34465343-9607-48f2-8a1d-dc1de2fb892c (NT) -- p, Friday, March 13, 06:56:14pm (NoHost/90.204.91.94)
- Silva was not fully comfortable in this interview, meaning more so than usual (NT) -- RR, Saturday, March 14, 01:56:45am (NoHost/104.220.143.92)
- Was a good question, which he mostly avoided answering (NT) -- MH, Saturday, March 14, 03:27:38am (202-172-96-224-cpe.spintel.net.au/202.172.96.224)
- Sad News. -- Old timer., Friday, March 13, 06:25:36pm (host-2-102-164-149.as13285.net/2.102.164.149)
Hearing Seth Ridgeon has torn his ACL. It’s all over Social Media very sad news if true.Although young enough to kick on afterwards.
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- Fulham are on the verge of signing former Arsenal youngster Dan Casey. Casey has completed a medical with the Craven Cottage club and is expected to sign an initial two-year deal. The 18-year-old will begin his Fulham career in their U21s setup. -- .., Friday, March 13, 05:36:50pm (host86-184-57-142.range86-184.btcentralplus.com/86.184.57.142)
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- Would imagine Raul will miss sunday then -- Same Old Story, Friday, March 13, 03:24:29pm (85-115-49-2.mailcontrol.com/85.115.49.2)
His father has passed away - pancreatic cancer apparently - no mention/comment from club yet, but they were very close by all accounts, so i'd imagine he'll be out this week.
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- 'apologies' to the club, there was a twitter post this morning i hadn't seen (NT) -- Same Old Story, Friday, March 13, 03:30:14pm (85-115-49-2.mailcontrol.com/85.115.49.2)
- Isn't there someone in the 21's who can play? Tired of watching Muniz trying to impersonate a footballer. (NT) -- old codger, Friday, March 13, 05:14:35pm (potuimus.dreamsinheels.com/98.159.234.73)
- Mentioned on FFC homepage in team news section... (NT) -- G, Friday, March 13, 05:39:48pm (NoHost/90.204.91.94)
- Raul player of season. A bloody disgrace he has had to carry us through this season on his own. With virtually no injuries. And we still need him even with Muniz back. Says it all. (NT) -- CB, Saturday, March 14, 12:19:20am (213-18-181-177.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.181.177)
- Not sure Raul will be available Sunday, being reported his dad's just passed away. RIP Raul Senior -- Straw Clutchers Anonymous, Friday, March 13, 03:24:23pm (NoHost/90.196.13.114)
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- fst dead? -- Context synergy spotter, Friday, March 13, 02:29:01pm (ns5000058.ip-51-161-87.net/51.161.87.142)
The newly formed Fulham Fan Groups Forum invites match-going supporters to a ‘meet and greet’ drop-in session before our home game against Burnley on Saturday 21st March. The Forum is made up of our various supporter groups, including the Fan Advisory Board (FAB).
The event offers an opportunity to get to know representatives of the FAB, Fulham Supporters Trust, Fulham Lillies, the new LGBTQ+ group ‘Pride in Fulham,’ and the Jewish Supporters Group. Representatives from the Club’s supporter team will also be there. They will be available for two hours before the match for supporters to meet, discuss anything Fulham-related, and share feedback on the issues that matter to them. Soft drinks and food will be available (while they last!). The Disabled Supporters Association (DSA) will not be in attendance but will be hosting a meet and greet event at Fulham Pier in the near future.
The session will run from 11.30am-1.30pm at the All Saints Church Hall on Fulham Palace Road, opposite the Golden Lion pub. There’s no need to book, just drop by on your way to the match.
For supporters unable to attend on a matchday, you can always contact the FAB through Fulham FC - Contact Us and follow the FAB WhatsApp channel. For all other enquiries relating to this event, please contact enquiries@fulhamfc.com.
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NEW PODCAST: No Silvaware🎙️ -- Friends of Fulham, Thursday, March 12, 09:24:11pm (cpc158525-gill21-2-0-cust281.20-1.cable.virginm.net/86.14.169.26)
Hi all,
On this episode of FOF'cast, we discuss the 1-0 loss to Southampton in the FA Cup, Marco Silva's contract situation, Harry Wilson, Antonee Robinson, End of Season, Relegation and Forest Predictions.
shows.acast.com/friendsoffulham/episodes/no-silvaware
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- Anyone seen EPiC yet? -- Very good reviews., Thursday, March 12, 08:22:21pm (host109-149-33-160.range109-149.btcentralplus.com/109.149.33.160)
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- My folks saw it and really enjoyed it, and they aren't mad Elvis fans. They say it gave a great idea of being at an Elvis gig back in the 1970s. Funny really, back then, when I was growing up, everyone - even loads of people who liked Elvis - was saying that he was finished. Seems hard to believe that his early 70s stuff was widely regarded as stodgy and unimaginative, which it clearly wasn't. Time isn't always your enemy, I guess. Mostly, but not always. (NT) -- I do have a wooden heart, Saturday, March 14, 11:34:55am (NoHost/191.101.157.73)
- White noise -- woodman, Thursday, March 12, 02:31:49pm (cpc158567-haye26-2-0-cust402.17-4.cable.virginm.net/86.15.153.147)
Those who follow twitter, white noise just won at 66/1. Lovely !
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- White Noise -- Kimberly-Clark, Thursday, March 12, 02:30:52pm (host-2-102-164-149.as13285.net/2.102.164.149)
Hope he backed it
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- Juventus -- woodman, Thursday, March 12, 01:31:58pm (cpc158567-haye26-2-0-cust402.17-4.cable.virginm.net/86.15.153.147)
Amazingly 16 years ago (yesterday) was Juventus away. I suspect many might remember the Huntsman more than the match!
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- cant we just go out -- Same Old Story, Thursday, March 12, 11:05:19am (85-115-50-2.mailcontrol.com/85.115.50.2)
And get the Bodo Glimt manager?
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- 'Old Mother Hubbard' -- Mr Kurkuruza, Thursday, March 12, 10:07:26am (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
As Fulham fans we are constantly aware that we have never won a major trophy. Yes some will say we have won divisional titles and the prestigious 'Intertoto Cup' no less. However, imagine that you support a current league club that has never won a divisional title ever, plying it's trade for over 100 years of Football League endeavour.
So, let me gift an imaginary Football League trophy to the first person who can name that club. (Readers of WSC should not take part and will receive a 30 points deduction if they do).
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- Coventry? (NT) -- JamieR, Thursday, March 12, 10:59:25am (82-132-213-122.dab.02.net/82.132.213.122)
- I'd say Rochdale, but they're not Football League currently (NT) -- TBF, Thursday, March 12, 11:10:33am (host86-149-153-216.range86-149.btcentralplus.com/86.149.153.216)
- Barrow (NT) -- Hammersmithender, Thursday, March 12, 11:35:57am (NoHost/31.94.14.190)
- Can't be Barrow. Founded 1901, a few years too many in non-league so doesn't meet the 100 plus years in the Football League (NT) -- Club Stooge, Thursday, March 12, 11:50:04am (host81-152-41-25.range81-152.btcentralplus.com/81.152.41.25)
- I'd say winning the Second Division is no mean feat, and we have done that three times, not too shabby, much harder than the League Cup which has always been regarded as a reserve team trophy and the FA Cup has gone much the same way. League status is all that really matters in the modern game. Still rankles we were pipped by Wigan in '97 thanks to the goals scored fiasco, winners of all three EFLs is quite a small club, but hopefully we won't get the chance to rectify it. (NT) -- Rupert, Thursday, March 12, 11:52:28am (97e45270.skybroadband.com/151.228.82.112)
- Crewe Alexandria? (NT) -- eganonoa, Thursday, March 12, 12:16:17pm (NoHost/195.222.49.31)
- Definitely Crewe. Only silverware is the Football League Trophy. (NT) -- Club Stooge, Thursday, March 12, 01:05:25pm (host81-152-41-25.range81-152.btcentralplus.com/81.152.41.25)
- Yes Crewe Alexander. No divisional title in 132 years of FL membership. 11 other clubs have no titles, but none have been in the FL for anywhere as long as Crewe A. An imaginary divisional title title of your choice is coming your way. (NT) -- Mr Kurkuruza, Thursday, March 12, 02:43:19pm (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
- Surely you both get massive points deductions which cost you the title, for spelling their name completely wrong. Ego went Alexandria - an Egyptian Seaport, Scottish town, or fictional base from the walking dead, whilst your good self went for Alexander - name of a Macedonian leader amongst others. Its Alexandra. (NT) -- Same Old Pedantic Story, Thursday, March 12, 02:47:33pm (85-115-49-2.mailcontrol.com/85.115.49.2)
- And a bonus prize of a National League play off place to you sir for noticing our tardiness. (NT) -- Mr Kurkuruza, Thursday, March 12, 03:44:33pm (92.40.168.200.threembb.co.uk/92.40.168.200)
- ha ha! Yeah. I have quite literally always called them Alexandria. God knows why. Learn something new every day. Of course, I barely ever think of them by their name. When I read Mr. K's question I immediately thought: "Got to be Dario Gradi's team", not "Crew". They will forever be burned in my consciousness as the nice little club, that doesn't do much, but what it does it does the right way. (NT) -- eganonoa, Thursday, March 12, 03:45:59pm (NoHost/195.222.49.31)
- My son in law told me his team has won diddly squat….Brighton (NT) -- Bad Boy, Thursday, March 12, 01:02:32pm (NoHost/2.126.58.251)
- One for us oldies. Our lack of success in cup completions, never stopped Tommy Trinder from claiming a tax allowance for silver polish! (NT) -- Block E, Thursday, March 12, 02:07:09pm (host86-178-193-240.range86-178.btcentralplus.com/86.178.193.240)
- Before 3rd divisions north & south amalgamated to 3rd & 4th in season '58/9 (when we went up to Division 1), Crewe were the whipping boys who finished bottom of 3rd north for the 3 preceding seasons. In one of those I was at the Bridge to see them beat Chelsea, Jimmy Greaves an' all, !-0 in the Cup. It didn't 'arf make my day... (NT) -- garence, Thursday, March 12, 03:30:18pm (82-71-33-251.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/82.71.33.251)
- A new contract for Silva has -- Been on the table for 4-5months now (What an earth is going on ?), Thursday, March 12, 09:12:32am (NoHost/104.28.30.90)
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- Why can't keepers just welly it up the field. Last night, tonight, how many near misses have we seen. -- Sometimes the long ball is the right ball, Wednesday, March 11, 10:37:33pm (host86-184-57-142.range86-184.btcentralplus.com/86.184.57.142)
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- Agree every team feels like they have to play out from the back sometimes it you just got to give it the AV IT treatment still not the worst thing in the world seeing those wankers lose (NT) -- AV IT, Wednesday, March 11, 11:01:55pm (NoHost/147.93.215.42)
- Valverde's first v City was a stunner. But how many teams have a keeper and a forward capable of pulling that off more than once a century (NT) -- MH, Thursday, March 12, 02:37:19am (IBJ.dsl.etalk.net.au/202.172.96.33)
- As they say"if in doubt, kick it out". This is my issue with Leno especially. He's not that quick , he always kicks with his right foot. thereby making it easier for the attacker to close him down. In short he scares me silly when fart arsing about in his penalty box. (NT) -- MWKent, Thursday, March 12, 08:33:41am (host-80-46-1-168.as13285.net/80.46.1.168)
- Yes, it is a fair point, yet Sunday's penalty came from Lecomte NOT playing out from the back. Ironic, of course. (NT) -- Rupert, Thursday, March 12, 11:58:20am (97e45270.skybroadband.com/151.228.82.112)
- Leftfield....Motherwell manager Jens Berthel Askou being linked with the Fulham job. -- G, Tuesday, March 10, 10:10:39pm (NoHost/90.204.91.94)
His agent is Bjarne Goldbaek.
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- Check youtube. They play lovely attacking football. Though a bit of a jump from Scottish Prem to Premier League (NT) -- Mr Kurkuruza, Tuesday, March 10, 10:19:23pm (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
- If the likes of Kevin, Bobb, ESR were purchased on the recommendation of Silva, surely Shad & Co must be confident that he's going to sign a new contract? Is it normal to back a manager with over £100 million of young players with no assurances of his commitment to the club? (NT) -- Samuel, Wednesday, March 11, 08:16:38am (NoHost/90.253.228.158)
- Yep - Marco's been crap these past 5 years - I know - let's get the Motherwell manager! (NT) -- Rupert, Wednesday, March 11, 09:56:20am (97e45270.skybroadband.com/151.228.82.112)
- It’s staggering that someone who has elevated the Club so much almost single-handedly since his appointment should be talked of in the way he has and by so many of late . Yes he made bad calls , but name another Manager with Squad depth ( as so many said we had ) who doesn’t rotate . As for some unknown, there’s no way the Khans will go near any such candidate (NT) -- Mickey, Wednesday, March 11, 10:01:39am (82-132-229-236.dab.02.net/82.132.229.236)
- Agreed. Now the dust has settled even Marco agrees Sunday was not his finest hour. His biggest mistake was failing to properly screen the back 4 - you could predict the problem before the game - and even more so as events unfolded. But we cannot allow it to define him. Hopefully the club will be working even harder now to get him to renew because it's highly unlikely we'll attract someone better - and if we did get he'd be poached in one or 2 seasons. WUMs go away please. (NT) -- Rupert, Wednesday, March 11, 10:14:17am (97e45270.skybroadband.com/151.228.82.112)
- Where has Silva admitted Sunday was not his finest hour? Not seen that... (NT) -- G, Wednesday, March 11, 11:13:51am (NoHost/90.204.91.94)
- And while they're working hard to get him to renew it would be negligent of them not to have possible alternatives lined up (NT) -- MH, Wednesday, March 11, 11:17:43am (IBJ.dsl.etalk.net.au/202.172.96.33)
- You'd think. We obviously know nothing but the Khans and AM speak to Silva daily. They know why he hasn't signed, what the outstanding issues are, the likelihood of his signing and what Marco actually is thinking about his future. We're in the dark, guess and assume, but they know. (NT) -- The Man With No Name, Wednesday, March 11, 11:36:46am (host81-141-119-135.range81-141.btcentralplus.com/81.141.119.135)
- Other than Silva's apparent frustration with last minute transfer business, it's difficult to isolate a reason for him not to sign a new contract. The Khans clearly like Marco and all parties have acknowledged a good working relationship. And Silva can't really complain about signings after over £100 million has been spent passifying his demands. And let's face it, much of that is a waste of money. Marco really needs to show a bit of class and loyalty now. (NT) -- Samuel, Wednesday, March 11, 12:23:21pm (NoHost/90.253.228.158)
- But that's what I'm saying - you don't know. Don't feel bad about it because I don't know either but you can be sure that the Khans do know. And there will be reasons which may or may not be resolved in time. (NT) -- The Man With No Name, Wednesday, March 11, 01:31:21pm (host81-141-119-135.range81-141.btcentralplus.com/81.141.119.135)
- Or maybe brains box he wants out because he thonks they are cumulatively bad value . Or partly was the desire to spend spend spend to drain out resources from the club and to make us ready to offload , cheaply , players the Israeli agents on here , that’s you Samuel , want sold ( perhaps to a club Silva is heading to ) Robinson , Muniz ( the one you rate so highly you are always slagging off) and god knows who else . (NT) -- alanos, Wednesday, March 11, 02:11:47pm (82-132-214-44.dab.02.net/82.132.214.44)
- its more the case if he isnt going to stay, now that we have little to play for wouldnt it make sense to act now and be ready for the new season. For someone who usually shouts and screams that we leave things too late im surprised you would be against this (NT) -- me, Wednesday, March 11, 06:05:03pm (host86-151-207-147.range86-151.btcentralplus.com/86.151.207.147)
- Many managers have come from nowhere and done well andrews iraola even emery was ridiculed when appointed at villa, silvas time is up and it seems him and the club know that he's been great and stabilised us but now it's time for change of course it's a risk but it's worth it (NT) -- finito, Wednesday, March 11, 12:46:37pm (77.99.88.194.baremetal.zare.com/194.88.99.77)
- No it's not worth it because Silva's right for Fulham and Fulham's right for Silva - as I stated we get a new manager and he's either great for a year or 2 and he's poached - or we risk 'doing a Charlton'. No thanks. Too much at stake. (NT) -- Rupert, Wednesday, March 11, 01:44:14pm (97e45270.skybroadband.com/151.228.82.112)
- Or you do a Bournemouth, move on from what was seen as steady o’neil and end up with Iraola, palace move on from steady Roy and end up winning the cup under glasner. There’s no guarantee we’d be better and I agree the big picture is silva has been a v.good coach for us, just feels to me both parties have run their course and id be excited by a new coach, even in the knowledge it could go badly (although would have to be really really bad to be relegated with our squad) (NT) -- Henry1879, Wednesday, March 11, 04:54:38pm (cpc113812-lea23-2-0-cust213.6-3.cable.virginm.net/86.26.216.214)
- So what happens if we get relegated next season under him then? Or he decides to move on midway through the season? This mentality is ridiculous you're right we're made for each other in a sense that we've never won anything of note he's the first manager to come along and stabilise us that's great but he's not some god who we owe everything to. (NT) -- mentality, Wednesday, March 11, 05:01:18pm (NoHost/217.216.60.52)
- when ever a middle level premiership team decides to sack/not renew the contract of a manager that has kept them at about the level that their spending supports, I always remember Charlton under Curbishley. The Charlton supporters complained regularly that he had taken them as far as he could and it was time for them to move him on. We he did leave they were soon relegated....The grass aint always greenerg -- Glide, Wednesday, March 11, 07:27:23pm (cpc115898-addl5-2-0-cust169.6-3.cable.virginm.net/86.20.92.170)
- Curbishly was 20 years ago!! How about when palace moved on Roy? When BHA moved on from Hughton, when Bournemouth moved on from O’Neill, all seen as risky. Silva has had a really fair crack of the whip with good resources to either get to a cup final, let alone win one, or over achieve in comparison to wage bill and has come up short each time. Doesn’t make him a bad manager, but why not aim for something special and memorable rather than about the level spending supports. (NT) -- Henry1879, Wednesday, March 11, 09:05:15pm (cpc113812-lea23-2-0-cust213.6-3.cable.virginm.net/86.26.216.214)
- If you stand still in this league you get relegated just look at the teams that have gone down over the years, also do you have any other examples other than Charlton as I know this board love to use that everytime silva leaving is bought up (NT) -- clutching, Wednesday, March 11, 09:23:40pm (NoHost/45.130.105.124)
- Josh King -- Jimbo, Tuesday, March 10, 06:47:13pm (82-132-218-53.dab.02.net/82.132.218.53)
Are people starting to wake up to the fact that JK isn’t quite the player we hoped he might be. Tricky and skillful but he has no end product, doesn’t ever look like scoring and I don’t think he’s got a single assist. The way some go on you’d think he was the second coming of the Maestro. Cash in this summer if a bid over £20m comes in.
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- Egg chasing might be more up your street. (NT) -- HemelRog, Tuesday, March 10, 06:59:37pm (host31-104-142-81.range31-104.btcentralplus.com/31.104.142.81)
- Right now not seeing consistent end product from a number of our attacking players. The only consistent contributor has been Wilson. Certainly a worrying trend which Silva needs to address. (NT) -- SD, Tuesday, March 10, 07:02:05pm (NoHost/168.233.52.3)
- He's just turned 19. I think we can safely say that he's no Yamin Lamal. Other than that how he's a 19 year old that doesn't look out of place in the Premier League. There are very few of those. I see a young Andreas. His off the ball work is excellent. His ability to turn a defender with the ball is excellent. He needs to bulk up and make better decisions more consistently in deciding whether to run, pass or shoot. He's 19 and is ridiculously mature for his age. All good signs! (NT) -- eganonoa, Tuesday, March 10, 07:34:30pm (NoHost/172.59.192.118)
- Don’t really see AP, he was more a passer, King is more like a foden, take the ball on the half turn and beat a player, more similar on stature to foden than AP too. Young players will of course be up and down and less consistent, just a bit of concern for me is he doesn’t ever look like scoring or assisting to me, has talent but lacks a feel for being right place like ESR often does. For now I think we look a better team with ESR over king. (NT) -- Henry1879, Tuesday, March 10, 09:41:47pm (cpc113812-lea23-2-0-cust213.6-3.cable.virginm.net/86.26.216.214)
- Andreas because of his off the ball work. He's a No. 8 played at No. 10. Someone who will be good in the high-press but might never have the flashy end product of others in that system. Also Andreas like in his passing in that he's more of a risk taker than a careful passer with high completion rates. (NT) -- eganonoa, Tuesday, March 10, 10:14:30pm (cable-146-255-156-96.dynamic.telemach.ba/146.255.156.96)
- Work rate & pressing is a given now in modern football, ESR puts in a shift as much as King, bar a few outliers everyone does it or they don’t get picked. If I was to compare to any recent FFC player would be carvalho, small in stature, great at little 1-2s, taking ball on half turn and gliding when dribbling rather than being outright fast. AP to me would want the ball deeper, often off defenders, then look for through balls and long diagonals and was a clean striker of the ball. (NT) -- Henry1879, Wednesday, March 11, 08:17:18am (82-132-222-238.dab.02.net/82.132.222.238)
- I read that he was being pushed to 1st team 2 seasons ago but his lack of strength meant a loan to lower leagues was off the table so he was kept in the youth team longer (NT) -- Waterboy, Tuesday, March 10, 07:49:01pm (NoHost/90.242.53.3)
- Name a player in this team that looks good without a run of games. Tete. That’s the end of your list. (NT) -- ASPT, Tuesday, March 10, 09:11:04pm (NoHost/86.48.8.133)
- He'll come good. He's very young and not strong enough yet. Wait till next season. (NT) -- RR, Tuesday, March 10, 10:03:29pm (NoHost/104.220.143.92)
- In an ideal world we'd want to keep him and 'hope' he comes good - but its not an ideal world, and our financial model seems to be based on selling one player for positive PSR impacts and King is almost certainly our best option. I think £20m is too low, though. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Wednesday, March 11, 10:12:31am (NoHost/90.241.79.67)
- 14 points to overtake Leicester City in the all time Premier League table. Can we do it this season? -- Jimbob, Tuesday, March 10, 04:56:41pm (smtp4.englishprovender.com/86.188.187.74)
6 Man City 1105 568 236 301 1940
7 Everton 1295 462 363 470 1741
8 Newcastle 1177 450 296 431 1646
9 Aston Villa 1181 426 326 429 1604
10 West Ham 1139 378 287 474 1421
11 Southampton 962 282 254 426 1100
12 Blackburn 696 262 184 250 970
13 Leeds 611 230 161 220 851
14 Leicester 688 224 174 290 846
15 Fulham 713 217 182 314 833
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- Our away games look tough, all teams fighting for position (NT) -- Waterboy, Tuesday, March 10, 05:50:37pm (NoHost/90.242.53.3)
- Re: 14 points to overtake Leicester City in the all time Premier League table. Can we do it this season? (NT) -- 833 points that’s safety for on the Beach, Tuesday, March 10, 07:43:58pm (host-2-102-164-149.as13285.net/2.102.164.149)
- No! (NT) -- Phil, Tuesday, March 10, 11:26:39pm (saphil.plus.com/31.125.165.251)
- Underlines the club's success these past 30 years and how we can't let Sunday scupper all the good work. Interesting we have spoent more seasons in Prem than Leicester, Leeds and Blackburn. Will catch Leicester on points next season in any case and perhaps Leeds as I think they'll drop - https://www.statmuse.com/fc/ask/which-teams-have-played-the-most-seasons-in-the-premier-league (NT) -- Rupert, Wednesday, March 11, 10:18:13am (97e45270.skybroadband.com/151.228.82.112)
- Equally of interest is if you look at that table, there are only 11 clubs that have played more Premier League matches than Fulham. Don't ever let anyone tell you Fulham are not a Premier League club. Rather FFC is pretty much an archetypal Premier League club!! (NT) -- dd, Wednesday, March 11, 01:40:56pm (NoHost/90.204.91.94)
- Exactly. (NT) -- Rupert, Wednesday, March 11, 01:45:18pm (97e45270.skybroadband.com/151.228.82.112)
- Happy Days -- Eerwah, Tuesday, March 10, 12:24:04pm (116-251-29-183.pool.activ8me.net.au/116.251.29.183)
When building from the back keeps arriving at a dead end, why repeat the process? Having drawn a blank with no prospects, what is the point of possession for no gain. Saints should have been three up during the first half, did it really require half time to apply the solution.
Moritz could have been equipped with a deck chair. MS and all the lads should consider viewing the entire replay of passive moves with benign passing around they expect fans paying to watch.
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- Player Load -- f bloke, Tuesday, March 10, 12:11:12pm (NoHost/2.223.121.65)
Seen some comments in recent threads about the player load today compared to years gone by. I recall a video done by Adam Clery for 442 on David Beckham. In the video he referred to data that has been available since the early 2000s that shows that distance covered, the number of sprints and the pace of sprints has increased year on year since the data was first introduced. For the most part the numbers posted 15/20 years ago bear little resemblance to the numbers being posted today. The game is now very different and requires much higher degrees of athleticism than even 15/20 years ago. The outlier was Beckham whose average distance run per game in his Madrid days was greater than any distance covered in any EPL game just a couple of years ago. He would be an outlier now but was an absolute freak for the period he played. So I am not sure that looking back to what players did in the past is particularly helpful.
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- We do seem to keep dropping off form at this late stage (NT) -- Waterboy, Tuesday, March 10, 01:10:22pm (NoHost/90.242.53.3)
- Excellent point. Add to that what the competition is doing. When everyone has deep squads with players that cost 10s of millions in reserve everyone can push the intensity levels ever higher. A team that cannot do that will eventually be run off the park. (NT) -- eganonoa, Tuesday, March 10, 01:15:07pm (NoHost/195.222.49.31)
- We could take into consideration that training methods are far superior to previously, that pitches are virtual bowling greens now, and the ball is lighter. Also, clubs play less games in a season now than before which should mitigate to some extent what you say. (NT) -- Hammersmithender, Tuesday, March 10, 01:37:28pm (NoHost/31.94.74.154)
- But it's not really about those factors though. It's an arms race, pure and simple. If in those days everyone was carrying 25 first-team ready squad players then the same considerations would have been in play then. A side who played the same team team consistently would've been run of the park by the team with strength in depth, just as today. Teams were withdrawing from the Premier Reserve League for a reason. They wanted to have 25 players to go full-throttle in the real competitions. (NT) -- eganonoa, Tuesday, March 10, 03:22:08pm (NoHost/195.222.49.31)
- It’s not can the players do it, course they can, but do they mantain peak physical performance, well it has to drop at a point and more strain you put on more likely injuries. Agree modern elite footballers moan too much, quite happy to take all the money out the game, would they take a pay cut to cut games? Doubt it. Welfare argument is nonsense, but it’s a product of giving them everything and lauding them as heroes. (NT) -- Henry1879, Tuesday, March 10, 04:52:10pm (82-132-221-39.dab.02.net/82.132.221.39)
- I'm not sure that anyone has yet devised a way of comparing the EFFORT of past and present day players. The modern game, played with lighter balls and in more boots on far better pitches may see more distance covered by individuals but passing from keeper to CB to full back to CB to keeper requires far less energy and effort than 'old fashioned' route one stuff and actually taking on defenders. Comparing modern football with years hone by can be like comparing apples with camels! (NT) -- Mr No Name, Tuesday, March 10, 06:43:30pm (NoHost/95.214.229.137)
- Wigan, Portsmouth, Leicester, Palace -- ASPT, Tuesday, March 10, 08:57:01am (NoHost/86.48.8.134)
Since we got promoted 26 years ago, under Tigana, that’s the full list of non-big-six sides that have won the FA Cup.
I get the anger is about the approach to the game, but in that time we’ve qualified for Europe via league position twice.
Perhaps we should have gone for it all, but given those stats, what would you prioritise?
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- I think people would be absolutely fine with it, even an upset, if we didn’t meekly almost surrender and produce such a tepid effort. My bigger issue is the league and the repeating pattern of all safe and great opportunity with very winnable games and passing those chances up and dropping off to a 10-14th finish when there is a mini league to be won and a chance of 7/8th is very gettable, not dependent on a game against a top team, we have a full squad (again). (NT) -- Henry1879, Tuesday, March 10, 09:20:24am (cpc113812-lea23-2-0-cust213.6-3.cable.virginm.net/86.26.216.214)
- If we did qualify for Europe how often would Silva pick his first choice players for European games? How often should he? I want us to do as well as we can but there are consequences in qualifying for Europe. I wanted us to win the Cup for its own sake and I remain angry at Silva's senseless capitulation. (NT) -- The Man With No Name, Tuesday, March 10, 09:40:29am (host81-141-119-135.range81-141.btcentralplus.com/81.141.119.135)
- Why then the weak team and performance v W. Ham? (NT) -- MH, Tuesday, March 10, 09:46:07am (IBJ.dsl.etalk.net.au/202.172.96.33)
- I have no idea why we needed to 'prioritise' anything. Why not just play our strongest team considering we didn't have another game for 7 days? It just literally makes no sense AT ALL. There's no justification for it, especially following the significant changes he made vs West Ham (NT) -- Same Old Story, Tuesday, March 10, 09:55:29am (NoHost/90.241.79.67)
- Wasn't 2011-12 European qualification via Fairplay, rather than league position? (NT) -- TBF, Tuesday, March 10, 10:26:40am (host86-149-153-216.range86-149.btcentralplus.com/86.149.153.216)
- This notion of prioritising is a modern convention. If we enter a competition we should try our best to win it. If we don't then we are selling the paying public short and diminishing the competition. For the first 100 years all clubs, big and small, took every game they played with equal importance. Enough of the players get tired bollox. (NT) -- Hammersmithender, Tuesday, March 10, 10:40:17am (NoHost/31.94.74.154)
- Exactly. The players are tired line is utter nonsense. When Fulham got to the Europa Final it was well documented they just trained less. The answer is you train less (but maybe in the world of football, with it's intellectually challenged masses, that's a stroke of genius!) (NT) -- Hahahaha, Tuesday, March 10, 10:47:07am (NoHost/90.204.91.94)
- I sort of agree but for the first 100 years there was only the League and Cup. The League Cup started in 1961 and the European competitions initially involved only a few clubs. There were local cups which usually involved mostly reserve players. And of course players were cheap, expendable and did as they were told or else. Teams were not usually picked by managers until the 1950s so the people working with the players were handed the team sheet. No subs of course. Vastly different world. (NT) -- The Man With No Name, Tuesday, March 10, 10:53:46am (host81-141-119-135.range81-141.btcentralplus.com/81.141.119.135)
- Another factor is that there used to be reserve teams and no subs so all professionals got game time even if not in the first team. Most clubs ran three senior teams so players were kept match fit. Today there are no matches for players outside the first team. That's a good reason for rotation. (NT) -- The Man With No Name, Tuesday, March 10, 10:59:01am (host81-141-119-135.range81-141.btcentralplus.com/81.141.119.135)
- For most of that time the top division was larger (42 games), the pitches were vastly inferior (muddy), and the ball heavier. Today's training methods are vastly superior. Having squads rather than a first eleven surely spreads the load. It should be easier to be a pro footballer now, not harder. (NT) -- Hammersmithender, Tuesday, March 10, 11:09:14am (NoHost/31.94.74.154)
- Plus there were cup replays then as well. (NT) -- Hammersmithender, Tuesday, March 10, 11:51:25am (NoHost/31.94.74.155)
- The modern game is informed by stats. The last century version was informed by results. If a modern player's stats are down from previous games then this will be apparent to coaches of all teams. The modern game is so well informed that we are probably moving towards tactical stalement, if not there already. Hence why corners and long throw ins are back in vogue. I guess the smallest decrease in fitness, stamina, speed and alertness in a player, can be exploited by the opposition team. (NT) -- Mr Kurkuruza, Tuesday, March 10, 01:32:57pm (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
- We don't need managers anymore then. Just pick a team according to the spreadsheet. (NT) -- Hammersmithender, Tuesday, March 10, 01:57:33pm (NoHost/31.94.74.154)
- Nope, just head coaches who decide with their teams of coaches how to interpret data and apply tactics accordingly with the resources to hand. Whether we like it or not, the days of Worthington, Currie, Bowles and Le Tissier are way gone. They wouldn't make it in the modern game. Non League football is full of skillfull players who don't have the allround attributes needed. I guess it will get even more perfectionistic with AI technology.. (NT) -- Mr Kurkuruza, Tuesday, March 10, 02:09:11pm (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
- It gets less enjoyable as a spectator sport the more it moves that way, of course, so it might end up eating itself in the end. (NT) -- Same old Story, Tuesday, March 10, 02:59:37pm (NoHost/90.241.79.67)
- As there's no other globally competitive sport to turn to I can't see football eating itself by becoming too formulaic. I see it just as a pendulum swinging. Someone wil surprise with a team built on the cheap using cast-offs that don't conform to the stats-driven orthodoxy. Then the stats will start being read differently, changing tactics again. Happened in original stats game, baseball, with the KC Royals. It's what I think we've hoping for with older, and now smaller, technical players. (NT) -- eganonoa, Tuesday, March 10, 03:39:38pm (NoHost/195.222.49.31)
- Its difficult - I see film of matches from the 50's through to the 80's and I find the game that I really enjoyed back then almost unwatchable now. The increase in athleticism has been matched by a general increase in technical ability - would Pat Jennings have the footballing skills to survive now? - very much doubt that old school stopper CH's like Larry LLoyd would now survive in the modern Championship let alone the EPL. (NT) -- f bloke, Tuesday, March 10, 04:03:38pm (NoHost/2.223.121.65)
- Those 'cast off' players would have identified by the number crunchers. (NT) -- Mr Kurkuruza, Tuesday, March 10, 08:55:48pm (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
- Not how it works. Sport number crunchers don't differ from any other sector. They create, then follow trends. Right now the numbers point to efficiencies with big players, long balls, set pieces. Once everyone does that, those efficiencies disappear and new ones arise. Trick is in being ahead of the curve. As I say, it's happened (repeatedly) in the game that brought stats to sports, baseball. And it's happening in now in this very shift away from trad Pep-ball, the original numbers orthodoxy. (NT) -- eganonoa, Tuesday, March 10, 10:35:32pm (NoHost/146.70.156.8)
- Yes that's my prediction sadly. VAR is just another example of the football authorities ironing out the uncertainties and imperfections that actually make the game interesting. I took a friend on Sunday. He and his wife set up a school in Malawi. He told me that some of the local boys in Malawi asked him if the Premier League pitches are made of carpet. And in a way they are right. All perfect. (NT) -- Mr Kurkuruza, Tuesday, March 10, 08:03:44pm (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
- With all the advantages of the modern player they would be likely to adapt.They would in all probability be fitter and stronger.Can’t see any reason why they.wouldn’t be able to adapt in the main.Of course mavericks to some extent they might not be flavour of the month with some.I personally miss players like them although there were obviously plenty of donkeys and thugs about as well. (NT) -- HemelRog, Wednesday, March 11, 05:57:09am (host31-104-142-81.range31-104.btcentralplus.com/31.104.142.81)
- What grates is we didn't seem to prioritize a thing. When I saw the West Ham lineup, I thought "Marco has a great record vs Nuno. He knows how to beat him and is weakening the side to go for it on Saturday." That didn't work out, but OK, he rolled the dice reasonably. Then we saw a weakened team vs Saints and a refusal to use subs. It just didn't seem like there was a plan to succeed in either league or cup, despite him endlessly demanding his ambitions are met. Frustrating to say the least! (NT) -- eganonoa, Tuesday, March 10, 10:55:02am (NoHost/195.222.49.31)
- Just a minor correction - we've qualified for europe 3 times, but only once has been through league position. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Tuesday, March 10, 12:16:44pm (NoHost/90.241.79.67)
- Out of interest how many have won other cups? (NT) -- Harry68, Tuesday, March 10, 07:03:34pm (cpc160099-nmal26-2-0-cust805.19-2.cable.virginm.net/82.18.163.38)
- New rules next season -- BBC for the full article., Monday, March 09, 09:23:52pm (NoHost/94.2.243.131)
From 1 June - including at this summer's World Cup - and throughout the 2026-27 season, five-second countdowns will be introduced for goalkeepers taking goal-kicks and throw-ins.
Substituted players will also be required to leave the pitch within 10 seconds. If they exceed that limit, their replacement must wait at least 60 seconds before entering the field, leaving the team temporarily short of a player.
While the measures could improve the flow of matches, the expanded use of VAR may have the opposite effect.
At the World Cup, VAR will be able to intervene on corners and second yellow cards. Individual leagues will have to opt in to those changes, however, and the Premier League is not expected to adopt them.
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- 5 sec GK rule is from when the ref wants to enforce it, described as a ‘visual countdown’ - ref spots a keeper taking the P & puts up his hand for the count down. VAR corner thing sounds very interesting. It can overturn a corner / GK, but only if it does so before play starts again. Ref can’t pause the game. Surely that’s closer to what VAR should be doing from what it does today. Also, from next year, VAR can intervene on mistaken identity. How was that not the first thing it did? (NT) -- ASPT, Monday, March 09, 10:36:15pm (NoHost/86.48.8.134)
- Get rid of VAR and that would cure all of it! (NT) -- Waterboy, Tuesday, March 10, 01:11:23pm (NoHost/90.242.53.3)
- Very rarely do you see a goalkeeper take a throw in. (NT) -- Cutler 22, Tuesday, March 10, 07:05:37pm (customer.sfiabgr1.isp.starlink.com/150.228.63.254)
- Would have been! -- Alboy, Monday, March 09, 09:02:52pm (host109-150-14-246.range109-150.btcentralplus.com/109.150.14.246)
At home to Arsenal in the fa cup might have been fun!
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- Maybe we would have fielded our best squad. Any team is beatable at CC. With the right selection, passion and atmosphere! (NT) -- CB, Monday, March 09, 09:07:15pm (213-18-171-225.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.171.225)
- Nice to see Chelsea get their usual difficult draw. (NT) -- Wolfie Smith, Tuesday, March 10, 07:51:43am (host81-159-136-96.range81-159.btcentralplus.com/81.159.136.96)
- Am I right that we have never played Arsenal in a cuo competition ? (NT) -- -Could google it I suppose, Tuesday, March 10, 11:20:31am (host31-50-174-194.range31-50.btcentralplus.com/31.50.174.194)
- Yes, I believe you are correct, remarkable when you conciser how many times we have faced Manchester United, for instance. (NT) -- Rupert, Tuesday, March 10, 12:48:59pm (97e45270.skybroadband.com/151.228.82.112)
- Sorry to be Mr Pedantic, but, intrigued by what you said, I did Google it. Our first ever game against Arsenal was in the FA Cup in 1904. We lost 3-2. (NT) -- Mr Pedantic, Tuesday, March 10, 12:56:43pm (NoHost/90.204.91.94)
- IMO, we have 2 very related issues. And the players are not to blame -- ASPT, Monday, March 09, 07:03:14pm (NoHost/86.48.8.133)
We play a very certain way under Silva, the budget Pep. We have very intricate, skilful front 4 (when Muniz is no where near it). We get the ball to them and try to score the perfect goal (like Wilson’s earlier this season, the 1-2 then the outside of his boot). Sometimes this looks brilliant. Often against better sides who have more of the ball.
When we have most of the ball it can look pedestrian at best. We are so slow. We have no one who can transition the game, a Busquettes-spin player who quickly turns a lose ball into a defense-stretching attack. The only player in our squad who has shown flashes of this is Josh King. I know he’s small, but try him at 8 with Berge mopping up behind him. I’d rather try that than watch us playing 13 sideways passes while the opposition can jog back into shape.
Because we allow the opposing team to get back into shape, we are forced to score the perfect goal. This leads to the second problem. The shapes that Silva coaches are highly intricate. They take ages for new players to get comfortable with and make players returns from injury slower. Jedi has not become a poor player, he’s just forgotten how to be a Silva player.
It also means that when we make changes, we have a far lower chance of success. We need a settled side to be playing this tippy-tippy stuff because we can’t afford City’s squad. So we have to rely on muscle memory.
I do not think these are reasons to look elsewhere, I personally think we have more chance of staying up with the Devil we know. But they are things we have to accept if we keep him. It’s almost like he’s better with a smaller squad.
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- I also believe it’s why he has less trust in kids (NT) -- ASPT, Monday, March 09, 07:09:33pm (NoHost/86.48.8.133)
- King has shown flashes of being a "Busquettes-spin player who quickly turns a lose ball into a defense-stretching attack."? Have read some nonsense on this board, but that's up there! (NT) -- Hahaha, Monday, March 09, 07:12:36pm (NoHost/90.204.91.94)
- All Managers make mistakes Marco took two last week and they backfired on him. Reed not good enough and we missed Iwobi in midfield. Time to learn and .ove on. (NT) -- Alboy, Monday, March 09, 07:33:22pm (host109-150-14-246.range109-150.btcentralplus.com/109.150.14.246)
- Play a settled side you say. I've repeatedly been told on this board and elsewhere for years that squads rotation is essential because of the modern physical demands on players. Add to that the normal, expected 5 subs, then it becomes a complete porridge. Oh for the days of a settled side. (NT) -- Hammersmithender, Monday, March 09, 07:54:24pm (NoHost/31.94.74.155)
- Which may be why our purple patch was during AFCON and we had injuries. (NT) -- The Man With No Name, Monday, March 09, 08:00:43pm (host81-141-119-135.range81-141.btcentralplus.com/81.141.119.135)
- We got better results when Bassey, Iwobi, and Chuk were in AFCON and we had injuries. Smaller side with few options. (NT) -- RR, Monday, March 09, 08:16:44pm (NoHost/104.220.143.92)
- Silva's Level -- The Drobe, Monday, March 09, 04:03:25pm (host109-152-205-24.range109-152.btcentralplus.com/109.152.205.24)
Are any of these performances really any different to what we saw yesterday?
v Leeds. 54% possesion but less shots than Leeds and fortunate injury time og to win 1-0
v Sunderland. 57% possession and 24 shots. Scored in 84th min to win 1-0
v Palace. 63% possession. Lost 2-1 to a late goal
v Forest. 50% possession. Won 1-0 with a penalty
v Everton. 55% possession. Lost 2-1 to a late goal
v West Ham. 59% possession. Lost 1-0 after a defensive error
That's just 3 goals in open play in those 6 games, 5 of which we had majority of possession. This is less to do with the players on the pitch and more to do with Silva's style of play, which is too easy to defend against. This is Silva's level. Sometimes it great to watch sometimes its dreadful but mostly its frustrating. I guess the big consideration for all of us is be careful what you wish for. The owners don't exactly have a great track record of manager appointments. 5 duds/disasters and 2 good ones.
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- its not a case of careful what you wish for as this is going to happen now or in 8/9 weeks time anyway. For me we have nothing left to play for this season due to the crazy decisions to field weaker teams this week so why not give a new man (if available now) those games to get to know the squad, the style and whats needed in the summer rather then starting at a disadvantage. Tell Silva he needs to sign or go. Of course if he signs its a different story but nothing is suggesting he is going to (NT) -- me, Monday, March 09, 05:46:17pm (host86-151-207-147.range86-151.btcentralplus.com/86.151.207.147)
- Don't agree with the comparison. Frustration and Fulham have always been my norm. With Joy and Anger being the extremes. Yesterday, the game was lost when the starting 11 was announced, resulting in similar stats to those given. When playing a mid-table championship side, with a greater prize. We expected more from Silva, hence the reactions by most on here. (NT) -- CB Frank is available. Doubt he will be for long, Monday, March 09, 05:52:47pm (213-18-171-225.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.171.225)
- Get Frank in ASAP, liked his attitude at Bus Stop, SPuds destroyed him (NT) -- Al, Monday, March 09, 06:02:32pm (cust-51.179.207.198.cgn.as5482.net/51.179.207.198)
- I don't know Mr Frank, but i can't imagine he'll be short on offers, and if it was me, I absolutely wouldn't go near a club whose fans had been calling me a sex offender, en masse, for 6 years. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Monday, March 09, 06:13:19pm (NoHost/90.241.79.67)
- I'd rather Lampard than Frank! (NT) -- The Drobe, Monday, March 09, 06:55:30pm (host109-152-205-24.range109-152.btcentralplus.com/109.152.205.24)
- Re: Silva's Level: It's definitely not style of play, it's more about finishing making better choices in the final third and shooting more. We definitely need another striker up front. We certainly need to do better at taking the chances we create. (NT) -- Alboy, Monday, March 09, 06:24:01pm (host109-150-14-246.range109-150.btcentralplus.com/109.150.14.246)
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Marco Silva -- Alboy, Monday, March 09, 03:17:51pm (host109-150-14-246.range109-150.btcentralplus.com/109.150.14.246)
Lots of interesting comments on here. Do I think Marco has been a great Manager for us, yes he has . We are a stabilised good Premiership club and we generally play good football. After the excellent result and performance against Spurs I like many was expecting two more wins. We played a weaker side against West Ham and it was a poor performance. I fully expected a win in the cup to put us back on course. When I saw the starting line up it surprised me, especially as we had a full week until our next game. The line up should have been good enough to win the game but there is no doubt making so many changes upset our rhythm. Far too many had poor games, Muniz, Smith-Rowe, Chuckweze, Reed etc. Sometimes that can happen but why did Marco not make changes earlier? Why allow Reed to take set pieces when his delis so poor. Why didn't we vary any of our corners which were so predictable? These are the questions I would like to ask Marco. I still rate him as a Manager but he made wrong decisions yesterday. It's a huge dissapointment to lose in a game we should have easily won. The same can be said for the West Ham game. I understand the discontent it's hard to take especially after getting back to winning ways.
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- Martin Samuel in the Times -- Times’s reader, Monday, March 09, 02:14:23pm (host86-150-6-127.range86-150.btcentralplus.com/86.150.6.127)
For those of you not familiar with the Times, Martin Samuel is the lead football writer and today wrote a lengthy piece asking exactly was Silva thinking in making nine changes for the Southampton game. Well worth a read. Lots of questions swirling around his tactics.
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- But Silva said he wasn’t to blame for yesterday’s defeat (NT) -- Ffc, Monday, March 09, 02:24:29pm (97e1e33c.skybroadband.com/151.225.227.60)
- I wonder if Silva had made promises to certain players that they'd always start in cup games to try and keep everyone happy. That obviously doesn't excuse the lack of urgency with substitutions, but perhaps he still see's European qualification more realistic from the league and didn't want to risk unnecessary injury. (NT) -- Samuel, Monday, March 09, 03:22:51pm (NoHost/90.253.228.158)
- Re: Martin Samuel in the Times…..that’ll be the bloke who wrote about Siva’s alleged pending move away from Fulham in July 2023…….”Silva has always been ambitious and mercenary….which doesn’t make Silva the man for the long term, or even one to rely on being there next week…..It’s purely a financial move.” That little piece of snide journalism didn’t age so well, huh? (NT) -- Bad Boy, Monday, March 09, 03:34:58pm (NoHost/2.126.58.251)
- Henry Winter has written something very similar. Mainstream media have taken note of Fulham for note (NT) -- Kenny, Monday, March 09, 03:55:33pm (NoHost/2.219.214.99)
- Bad week -- David Mancuso, Monday, March 09, 12:18:18pm (host51-14-167-67.range51-14.btcentralplus.com/51.14.167.67)
A bad week for Fulham, and certainly some shortcomings from Silva, but the responses on here are wild; completely insane.
Knee jerk reactions are I guess the norm among football supporters but many of them on here, and other forums/socials, seem absolutely off the scale to me.
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- People feel how they feel - there's no objective right response. I'm still angry with Silva. A cup runs been thrown away for no good reason that I can see. No in game management. Piss poor management by someone who seems to think he deserves better. I hope he's replaced this summer. Others are free to think differently. (NT) -- The Man With No Name, Monday, March 09, 12:37:03pm (host81-141-119-135.range81-141.btcentralplus.com/81.141.119.135)
- People are entitled to react emotionally to what happened in the last week, in both the cup and league. Massive tinkering without a clearly coherent plan, or ever once fielding a strong side, from a coach who has not in any way been quiet with his demands, essentially met, for more-and-more from the club under the banner of his untrammeled ambition. This doesn't sit well. And nor should it. (NT) -- eganonoa, Monday, March 09, 12:53:55pm (NoHost/195.222.49.31)
- Big chance missed yesterday. Resting players Wednesday to give us a chance of reaching the last eight in the FA Cup would have made sense. Easy to be smart with the benefit of hindsight but the last two results open the door for comments along the lines of players already being on the beach, no ambition to fight for a European spot and Silva leaving. (Won't happen but if the latter is more likely than not I'd rather we brought in someone new now.) (NT) -- FFC in Brighton. 64. Want to see us lift a trophy., Monday, March 09, 01:08:57pm (82-132-220-71.dab.02.net/82.132.220.71)
- What's knee-jerk about losing pathetically to the bottom 3 WH at Home!. And blowing an obviously winnable FA Cup quarterfinal place unnecessarily 4 days later at Home again. If you don't feel angry, then you don't really support FFC. (NT) -- CB, Monday, March 09, 01:15:47pm (213-18-171-225.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.171.225)
- I normally greet results with equanimity, but even I am peed off about the last 2 games. If we had given ourselves the best chance of winning but failed due to bad luck, opposition simply better, or just an off day then you can accept it as one of those things. But when the manager has quite unnecessarily twice fielded a weakened team and then in the Cup game not made timely substitutions it is unsurprising that fans are reacting strongly. (NT) -- Bexhill Beast, Monday, March 09, 01:32:05pm (host86-142-67-240.range86-142.btcentralplus.com/86.142.67.240)
- Apologies David - if you would care to share the exact parameters of when we are and aren't allowed to be annoyed/frustrated/fed up with the management, that would be great, and help us avoid disturbing your sensibilities the next time we feel like the millionaire in charge of a load of other millionaires is not providing us with sufficient entertainment for the thousands of pounds we spend yearly. Ta. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Monday, March 09, 01:44:45pm (NoHost/90.241.79.67)
- Team selection-Silva Substitutions-Silva Tactics-Silva Contract uncertainty-Silva. We will be expected to renew season tickets in May blind to personnel changes in the summer. Invisible owners and CEO. But we can't voice disapproval (NT) -- Yeah, right!!!!!, Monday, March 09, 02:41:50pm (host86-184-57-142.range86-184.btcentralplus.com/86.184.57.142)
- It’s not knee jerk .. it’s been coming . And silva has been found out two games in a row. The reluctance to sign the contract says it’s all. So for him it is over and for us he has hit a ceiling (NT) -- View from the Riverside, Monday, March 09, 04:11:51pm (NoHost/104.28.40.139)
- The most baffling thing is how does this help Marco's next career move? -- CB, Monday, March 09, 12:14:24pm (213-18-171-225.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.171.225)
I can only guess he has already committed to an overseas club. (Portugal?) Who on earth in the prem would sign him?
It's not as if he hasn't had the cash to splash. Nearly man? Close but no cigar. He has been great for us, but time for a change
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- All very odd -- Going, Monday, March 09, 11:47:52am (host86-180-187-217.range86-180.btcentralplus.com/86.180.187.217)
I still cannot fathom the logic in our team selection yesterday. A win and we could be facing Port Vale at home in the 6th Round. If Silva is leaving picking a poor team and losing to Saints is not going to impress potential new employers.
Bassey, Iwobi, Berge and Jimenez starting could have made all the difference.
What was in Silva's head? Your top scorer is injured so drop the second highest scorer…. Brilliant😡
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- I think the answer lirs in what is in Silva's head, often confused thinking over team selection and tactics, often durng the game. Think the time has come, thank you for everything and that is a tre expression but maybe its time for a change, but I can never see real change happening at Fulham unles there is a better footballing structure in place at the club whoever is the manager (NT) -- Ken, Monday, March 09, 12:03:26pm (82-132-230-149.dab.02.net/82.132.230.149)
- This was Fulham at their most frustrating. Ask them to seize the initiative and they invariably disappoint. They tend to stumble when they have a chance to rise out of mid-table and they resembled a team with a mental block here. (NT) -- The Grauniad, Monday, March 09, 12:12:40pm (IBJ.dsl.etalk.net.au/202.172.96.33)
- MS & the FC hierarchy failing again to go for major silverware & chance of Europe. -- Ben, Monday, March 09, 10:57:08am (NoHost/176.25.236.25)
It's unacceptable for MS to play consecutive matches without choosing his strongest team when each place in the PL League is worth approx £3million plus the chance of Europe & another chance of a 147 yr wait for a major cup.
Like politics its time for Government to go & the FFC hierarchy to change in order for progress. Under the non appearance (hardly ever) of Khan & son, plus CEO Mackintosh 19 yrs with us, our progress is in the doldrums with no change coming. Yes we're in the PL but at best we're mid table whilst fans are charged more each season.
People say be careful what you wish for, but having supported FFC for many years, I'd like to see progress & silverware.
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- Well said. Time for change. (NT) -- Depressed, Monday, March 09, 11:05:08am (host81-159-178-64.range81-159.btcentralplus.com/81.159.178.64)
- Problem is we have a 35 year old as only real goal option, give him a res t and we have the under performing Muniz. Then whoever we have out wide arent big goalscorers. You have ESR (3 goals) or King (0). CM options we have Berge who wont shoot and Lukic who has 1 header on the line vs newcastle. Then Cairney Reed who are unfortunately only championship players now (NT) -- Waterboy, Monday, March 09, 11:35:44am (NoHost/90.242.53.3)
- The last week was poorly managed. But I can't see it as evidence of the sort of rot within the club you imply. We shot like a meteor from the 4th Division to the Premier League, where we stayed a lower-mid table club. After dropping down, we arrested a potential deeper fall to become, first, a yoyo, then a solid mid-table club. How many clubs, with or without the money, have achieved the same? Maybe it's time for a new coach (I'm not sure). But it's a lost opportunity, not a moment of high drama (NT) -- eganonoa, Monday, March 09, 12:04:17pm (NoHost/195.222.49.31)
- Seems simple to me... -- dd, Monday, March 09, 10:21:05am (NoHost/90.204.91.94)
Silva hasn't signed a new contract, doesn't want to stay, so doesn't care.
The players know this.
Hence the last two 'performances'.
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- Even if he doesn't want to stay, I still can't fathom what happened yesterday. Both the selection and the performance. Silva quite rightly being castigated even in the mainstream media, very good piece by Martin Samuel in the Times. (NT) -- Kenny, Monday, March 09, 10:26:51am (NoHost/2.219.214.99)
- I don't think so, he was trying to be clever and got found out a bit. I don't really think players are motivated by the manager's contract terms either way. They are still professionals, and obviously competitive people who enjoy winning. It was more just the wrong team and tactics I feel. (NT) -- GTS, Monday, March 09, 10:52:07am (24.206.97.75.netskope-rdns.com/24.206.97.75)
- Re: Seems simple to me... I think he does care ,he trusted the players but simply they let him down. He should have changed things earlier. Reed is not good enough at this level and to allow him to continually take set pieces seemed ridiculous. Massive let down for the club and the fans to go out of the competition in this way. (NT) -- Alboy, Monday, March 09, 11:05:31am (89-197-213-185.virtual1.co.uk/89.197.213.185)
- Doesn't make sense to me. I don't find it plausible. We are a stepping stone club. Coach wants to find a step up. Players want to find a step up. Everyone knows that a coach's time at a club is temporary, irrespective of contractual situation, as is the players' time. And we've been faced with uncertainty over coaching tenure before, including with Marco. Everyone is incentivized to try as hard as possible. This was just poor management. (NT) -- eganonoa, Monday, March 09, 11:39:59am (NoHost/195.222.49.31)
- Reported yesterday on 'That's so Craven' that Silva will likely sign before the end of the season, as long as he's not offered a job at a bigger club. Take from that what you will. Same person 'Fulham Fan News", today reporting that Wilson has been offerred more money. (NT) -- Mr Kurkuruza, Monday, March 09, 02:49:20pm (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
- Wide/Wingers -- Joe, Monday, March 09, 09:28:09am (NoHost/148.252.146.95)
Kevin Bobb Chuck all look like they have ability but anyone concerned they are extremely lightweight in statue? Will they be suited for season campaigns? Got to be a concern if Wilson leaves where goals come from wide?
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- Add in King and ESR and it's pretty clear we have deliberately gotten smaller, trickier and more skilled as the league has gone in search of bigger, stronger, faster. Presumably those things are not unrelated and we think we're getting value that others are discarding. But it does feel we have gone a bit far here, especially as two if our "big" player signings, Berge and Andersen, align more on the with the smaller, trickier players, and the third, Bassey, isn't good in the air. (NT) -- eganonoa, Monday, March 09, 09:38:24am (NoHost/195.222.49.31)
- But Wilson has the smallest frame out of all the wingers you mention (NT) -- Fkev, Monday, March 09, 09:48:16am (142.236.147.147.dyn.plus.net/147.147.236.142)
- Yeh I dont agree with the concern, we aren’t a small team even with those players. Arsenal have saka & Trossard as regulars, odegaard if fit too, Liv have salah and wirtz, city silva, foden or doku. Whilst the game has become bit land of the giants most teams still have some smaller technical players, with all fit we have a big team even by prem standards, with lukic & Berge in middle of the park and tete & Robbo/sess as full backs. (NT) -- Henry1879, Monday, March 09, 11:11:20am (cpc113812-lea23-2-0-cust213.6-3.cable.virginm.net/86.26.216.214)
- Stats don't back that up. In 2022/23 we ranked 10th in the league in aerial duals won. In 2023/24 we ranked 12th. In 2024/25 7th. This season we sit at 17th. There's been a huge drop-off. There's a reason for that, and its because we're clearly prioritizing players who are smaller, weaker, but more technical and tricky across the park. Once again, as with previously buying older players, we're seeking value where other's no longer see it. It's a valid strategy, but it does have consequences (NT) -- eganonoa, Monday, March 09, 12:21:33pm (NoHost/195.222.49.31)
- That’s different, can be down to lots of other things, how you defend, if individuals have won their own duels, I bet the same players have won fewer duels this season than previous, they haven’t shrunk. Muniz has played less which will distort slightly, but that’s due injury, teams are generally bigger, but I can’t see how a team with lukic/berge in the middle, tete/robbo as full backs is considered small, every team has a couple smaller players, don’t see us as different. (NT) -- Henry1879, Monday, March 09, 02:18:30pm (cpc113812-lea23-2-0-cust213.6-3.cable.virginm.net/86.26.216.214)
- Samuel Amissah -- Jonathan Baines, Monday, March 09, 07:17:53am (cust-51.179.206.142.cgn.as5482.net/51.179.206.142)
We have nine EPL games to play and Samuel Amissah should be starting each and everyone of these. I know he hasn't signed a new contract yet and we have all the usual 'pile of sh1t' clubs circling our talent. But if we are going to lose him at least give Fulham supporters the chance to see what could have been if we'd had the balls to play him all season!
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- Boa available -- Cutler 22, Monday, March 09, 06:34:46am (customer.sfiabgr1.isp.starlink.com/150.228.61.226)
Perhaps the club should contact Boa and see if he would be interested in becoming manager and if so we should make the change now giving the remainder of the season to get an understanding of the requirements. This at least would be better than a late appointment in the summer and panicking pre-season.
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- Only Cruising -- Eerwah, Monday, March 09, 12:22:31am (customer.brseaus1.isp.starlink.com/168.140.255.159)
Disappointment is certainly justified. Saints wanted the win much more than the invariably benign possession we kept displaying.
Once relegation maths reached safety level, backwards and sideways passes have become greatly numerous just like what happened at same stage last season.
Reasons can relate to already qualified for bonus payments; the fact M.S. is not truly under contract with us and or the amazing reluctance to pass the ball along forward channels therefore repeatedly allowing opponents to prepare difficult to penetrate defensive formations.
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- Hyperbole -- The Drobe, Sunday, March 08, 10:25:45pm (host109-152-205-24.range109-152.btcentralplus.com/109.152.205.24)
Yes today was hugely disappointing but some of the hyperbole on here is laughable. Meek surrender, FFS. 24 shots , 68% possession and conceding a penalty after 90 mins is not surrender. Problem is our style of play. Too easy to defend against. Today wasn’t that much different to home games we have won. Would the result have been different with a diferent starting 11? I’m not so sure. Both Reed and Cairney did ok Cairney was controlling the game and I doubt our goal threat would have been better if Berge had started instead of Reed.
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- 24 shots yet their keeper hardly had to make one decent save. What good is 68% possession playing sideways and backwards? (NT) -- Monotonous, Sunday, March 08, 10:35:27pm (host109-148-24-107.range109-148.btcentralplus.com/109.148.24.107)
- The tactics were all wrong just like the West Ham game, alright when we hit teams on the counter, but teams that sit deep we are not inventive or quick enough to beat them (NT) -- Hyperbole?, Sunday, March 08, 10:42:13pm (host86-184-57-142.range86-184.btcentralplus.com/86.184.57.142)
- Have to say drobe your way off message. Usually get bedwetter comments next day. As the hours go by that result gets more defining on the future of the club. Much as I think of Marco, the Khans should be looking elsewhere and withdraw offers of another contract. The spark has gone . We have a good basic squad and maybe a new manager would ignite it. Whatever he has not committed despite generous offers. How many of you want him to sign? (NT) -- CB, Sunday, March 08, 11:58:53pm (213-18-171-225.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.171.225)
- Didn’t mind the team selection too much, TC & Anderson our best at finding a penetrative forward pass against a low block team. I’m concerned how players seem to be regressing, chuk, ESR & Muniz (although been injured) and how woeful we were at set pieces. Saints were v.good and Ars struggle against similar deep teams, but they know that so master corners, whereas we didn’t look like creating a chance if we played for a month. XG more informative than shots, they created the big chances. (NT) -- Henry1879, Monday, March 09, 08:44:01am (82-132-222-179.dab.02.net/82.132.222.179)
- What's the difference between silva and parkerball? We play the same way he did only difference is we've stayed up this time the club players and manager should be embarrassed silva sitting on his arse whilst we're losing and they players having a laugh warming up? If they don't care what's the point in the remaining games this season I rally think modern football is a disgrace to the fans we're expected to pay upwards of of 2k for a season ticket yet we've never won a major trophy it's a joke -- gutted, Sunday, March 08, 07:55:26pm (NoHost/195.88.86.192)
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- A lot of folk spend a lot of cash following this team of ours up and down the country...cannot help but feeling underchanged today...when TC said that he would love to win a trophy before his days at Fulham end we all related to it...todays selection kiboshed that..desperate day at that old Cottage of ours... -- Barney Travers, Sunday, March 08, 07:42:30pm (NoHost/90.196.59.254)
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- Cup ? Don't really matter ..... -- Very Sad loss., Sunday, March 08, 06:24:09pm (NoHost/94.2.243.131)
It is with immense sadness that we announce the passing of 15-year-old Academy player, Amelia Aplin.
Amelia collapsed during a Girls’ Academy game against Fulham at the Club’s Training Centre in Horspath yesterday afternoon.
The thoughts and sincere condolences from everyone
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- Tragic. RIP Amelia. (NT) -- coulio, Sunday, March 08, 07:37:19pm (host-78-149-75-237.as13285.net/78.149.75.237)
- Indeed, that is truly distressing. Having lost a daughter at age 47 I hate to think of losing one so young and playing football, unlike many 15-year-old girls. No words can be enough. My genuine condolences to her family. RIP Amelia. (NT) -- CB, Sunday, March 08, 07:41:08pm (213-18-171-225.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.171.225)
- Bloody hell, that's put the whole thing into perspective, what a terrible loss. RIP Amelia (NT) -- Jim©, Sunday, March 08, 10:04:45pm (host86-170-249-213.range86-170.btcentralplus.com/86.170.249.213)
- SPIFFS - You, whoever you are need to be permanently banned from posting here. You are a total disgrace. Perhaps someone on here can track your IP address and name and same you! (NT) -- Jonathan Baines, Sunday, March 08, 11:45:15pm (cust-51.179.206.142.cgn.as5482.net/51.179.206.142)
- Horrific news and hopefully wasn't caused by the vaccine that absolutely no-one needed. (NT) -- Fkev, Monday, March 09, 09:53:50am (142.236.147.147.dyn.plus.net/147.147.236.142)
- Fans deserve better than what this szn has offered it was a piss poor performance today and silva has to take accountability there was no reason to make this many changes I genuinely don't believe why some think he's the right man for the job and to be offered a new contract what a slap in the face to the hardcore supporters who follow us, he has to go tomorrow no excuses were being taken for a ride no manager or player is bigger than this club, it's not just us even palace have the same problem -- Fuck off silva, Sunday, March 08, 06:21:24pm (NoHost/147.93.215.47)
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- More Silva -- News, Sunday, March 08, 05:52:33pm (NoHost/94.2.243.131)
Fulham were booed off by the home supporters at full-time, but Silva committed to finishing the season on a high despite a disappointing end to their cup run.
"It's our obligation,” he declared. “We have to understand it was a very, very bad afternoon.
“We know anything can happen on football but it's more than that.
“We have to look deeper because it was not good enough and that starts with me looking at myself.”
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- This article is absolutely bang om -- Same old story, Sunday, March 08, 05:40:18pm (NoHost/148.252.158.117)
<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="https://www.football365.com/news/opinion-silva-two-word-exposed-stale-fulham-marriage-end-this-summer">https://www.football365.com/news/opinion-silva-two-word-exposed-stale-fulham-marriage-end-this-summer</a>
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- Marco disrespected the competition with his... -- Slimtim, Sunday, March 08, 05:30:18pm (92.40.168.212.threembb.co.uk/92.40.168.212)
Excessive changes to the starting line up. The personnel he chose were good enough but we don't display enough drive or passion to want to score again and again. We are about as ruthless as a finger of fudge. We aren't in Europe so resting those on the bench today was not necessary. Marco thought he could sneak a win with a 2nd string team against Championship opposition. The Saints have been in good form, whereas we haven't. First string team was essential. Very disappointed but didn't expect much more today tbh. The players and manager seems to be already on th beach. I wish we'd take a game by the throat, be positive with our passing for once and just go for it! We will start singing the Spurs/Paul Bracewell song soon; forwards and backwards, everywhere we go. There was nothing for us fans to get excited about in the last 2 games. Where has the flair and skills gone? Have they been taken away by Marco so that our front 5 are virtually the same type of player, who do exactly the same type of things. SO MANY corners today but we never looked like.scoring from them. Do we practice them and try to cope Arsenal? Theres nothing wrong with trying to do that. Muniz held th ball up and laid it off a good few times today but I doubt he will score before the end of the season. We need a taller forward to mix up the attacking options more.
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- Not worth it? -- Long Termer, Sunday, March 08, 05:20:11pm (host86-147-182-137.range86-147.btcentralplus.com/86.147.182.137)
Anyone else think that Silva looked at the sides already through following Friday and Saturday (Liverpool, Arsenal, Man City and Chelsea) and thought - Nah! No point in going further
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- Silvas comments -- News, Sunday, March 08, 05:13:53pm (NoHost/94.2.243.131)
Silva made nine changes to the side that lost 1-0 to West Ham in midweek with Tom Cairney and Samuel Chukwueze the only players to keep their placed from the match.
“I understand that, it’s more than that. It was a bad afternoon for us and for our fans,” Silva explained. “We need to look deeper because I’m not pleased at all what has happened this afternoon.
“This one is more than a defeat – if it’s because of the changes then fine, I get it – but [Ryan] Sessegnon and [Timothy] Castagne have played this season against top Premier League sides, Oscar Bobb and Samuel Chukwueze are at the level. We have to look deeper.
“I understand that I get the blame for making the changes.
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- and it was andersens first day?and toms?castagne played like he always does but gets pushed under the bus?sess was poor and bobb was....esr was his usual self (NT) -- lets keep the kids at home when going to work, Sunday, March 08, 05:27:08pm (p5dc431cd.dip0.t-ipconnect.de/93.196.49.205)
- Lets be fair. There was only one team out there playing Walking Football. (NT) -- The Man With No Name, Sunday, March 08, 05:42:25pm (host81-141-119-135.range81-141.btcentralplus.com/81.141.119.135)
- What about the fact that what was happening on the pitch was obvious to every person in the ground but you still decided to do absolutely nothing about it until it was too late? Dont have to look too deep Marco, what was happening was f*king obvious (NT) -- Same old story, Sunday, March 08, 05:44:12pm (NoHost/148.252.158.117)
- Sat in the Riverside today which gave a better view of how woeful the tactics (if we had any) were. Slow, predictable, playing away from the Southampton goal. No pasion or energy from the players, man of the match Josh King in his 5 min cameo. Silva either signs or goes, last April exactly the same. Played one premiership side in the cups -- ..., Sunday, March 08, 04:38:25pm (host86-184-57-142.range86-184.btcentralplus.com/86.184.57.142)
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- At Least We Don't Fail Alone -- MWKent, Sunday, March 08, 04:36:11pm (host-80-46-1-168.as13285.net/80.46.1.168)
Sunderland also have to walk the walk of shame. That's no consolation however, as Silva has a lot of questions to anwser. His selection and tactics proved to be rubbish. What excuses will he come out with this time? Probably blame the referee again or VAR, his usual comment. This shamebolick perfomance with a disgrace and the buck stops with him.
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- Come on in the Black Cats -- Join the club, Sunday, March 08, 04:28:56pm (NoHost/94.2.243.131)
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- Silva should just go now -- Me, Sunday, March 08, 04:01:40pm (host86-151-207-147.range86-151.btcentralplus.com/86.151.207.147)
Why test players against West Ham and lose to end any real chance of Europe? Then do the same again in the cup? He hasn't signed a new deal and clearly has no intention of doing so. Let's get rid now and get someone in who can assess the squad and get the players in he wants in the summer rather then starting behind and no knowing who will be in charge. Counts for Wilson too more chance of keeping him if he knows who was in charge.
Silva done this in both cups every round every year and it continues to cost us.
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- Time for a change -- View from the Riverside, Sunday, March 08, 04:00:37pm (NoHost/104.28.40.132)
I think Silva won’t sign a contract and has taken the team as far as he can. I posted earlier this week that we have not progressed and it would appear to be the same old story this season . A missed chance to progress and it was predictable from kick off . So time to move on.
I think the selection today was baffling - their sole attacker was tailor made for Diop or Bassey. Instead we get clumsy Anderson . Cairney is at best a bit part closer , Muniz my god how may chances do you need? 15 corners? A Corner every 6 mins? No goals? Something is wrong with our coaching. What do we do during the week. Bobb needs to stop diving … Sess all at sea against the fast break … but Marco if you don’t want to here don’t ruin it for the 23.000 that turn up and do want Fulham to do well.
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- COMPLACENCY ….. -- Mickey, Sunday, March 08, 04:00:15pm (82-132-230-120.dab.02.net/82.132.230.120)
Team Selection……..Sentiment . Where was the driving ambition this afternoon ? Why did Reed and Cairney start yet again ? Why was Reed afforded so much freedom to even take our corners ? We took our Championship Opponwnts lightly in the expectation we would have enough quality to overcome them
. Not only did it backfire but had they had their shooting boots on , we would’ve conceded a good few more . You have to earn the right to showcase your talents and by winning battles , maintaining focus and being first to second balls . The performance for me was a thousand times worse than the result ; I saw nothing at all this afternoon to give me any belief for the rest of the season . How will the apologists frame this one I wonder ? Last not least for those who were desperate for a prolonged Cup Run to Wembley at very least , it is you I feel most disappointment for .
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- What apSurely the only ones who need to be "apologists" are the ones who think Silva can do no wrong, i.e. YOU and fools like Alboy, Bad Boy et al. You really are nothing but a total idiot! (NT) -- Your going fucking mad!, Sunday, March 08, 04:43:22pm (NoHost/185.94.192.215)
- When Silva ‘does wrong’ we call him out . For me it the the belief our Owners do not have the competency to bring in someone better , so instead just continue lavishing praise on him and proclaiming how ‘Great’ this Squad is . They should be demanding success beyond just PL Security, but when have they ever displayed that ambition to see us go further ? Absent and clueless , happy to over- praise and over-pay in order to keep their involvement to a minimum . (NT) -- Mickey, Sunday, March 08, 04:57:35pm (82-132-230-120.dab.02.net/82.132.230.120)
- You are,quite simply.... (NT) -- a walking obscenity!, Sunday, March 08, 05:09:54pm (mx01.offersfornow.xyz/185.94.192.219)
- I agree to to an extent it seems the board are in awe of him and feel if we change we will struggle so are happy with the current form which is disgusting he's been backed by them and now is taking us for a ride we need a new manager and an experienced dof unfortunately neither will happen and will be saying the same next season (NT) -- inexplicable, Sunday, March 08, 06:25:07pm (NoHost/195.88.86.110)
- So if they sack him, you agree with it? Or are you just being your usual, pathetic wanker, gutless turd, spineless amoeba. (NT) -- My God, what a gutless lump of slime you are!, Sunday, March 08, 11:33:45pm (NoHost/103.22.182.249)
- SOS message deleted seemingly. FWIW, this was my reply -- Barry@ENF, Sunday, March 08, 03:49:24pm (NoHost/83.105.110.122)
Certainly the selection & subs are totally baffling, particularly where we are in the season. We lack pace, defensively weak since Robbo's injury & return, and no reliable goalscorer.
Also, 4 or 5 years ago who'd have thought Reed & Cairney would be our midfield duo now? I know lots don't agree, but I think we have too many nearly men – capable of occasional great performance but inconsistent. Not being able to rely on consistent performances from ES-R also frustrating. We already knew about Sess well liked by all though he maybe.
You could say that the Manager has earned the right to pick his own team - but when it has not worked in an important game, for heaven's sake change it. Very odd.
There will be those that say this is the lot of a mid table Prem side whilst there are other examples which suggest that is not the case.
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- I'm currently sat in the Old City Arms and must say I agree with every word of this , but would just like to add Silva OUT ! -- Gary Elkins Shin Pad, Sunday, March 08, 04:01:19pm (92.40.173.86.threembb.co.uk/92.40.173.86)
- Held the opinion for a long time now, silva is a good but not great coach, we finish where our wages say we should and we find ways of losing when presented with cup opportunities and normally fall as soon as we play someone good, à la England Southgate. We have become stale, turgid and predictable. The corners situation today was a joke, aimlessly flinging balls in against a team who concede plenty from set pieces. (NT) -- Henry1879, Sunday, March 08, 04:06:45pm (82-132-222-179.dab.02.net/82.132.222.179)
- The Moderators deleted me presumably because I used a four letter word that you'd never hear at a football ground. Fuck knows what they're up to. Today was a disgrace, Second gear couldn't care less football devoid of quality. Inexcusable. (NT) -- The Man With No Name, Sunday, March 08, 04:32:24pm (host81-141-119-135.range81-141.btcentralplus.com/81.141.119.135)
- Disallowed Goal -- Mr Bishop, Sunday, March 08, 03:46:16pm (NoHost/167.98.216.186)
Has anyone heard any reasonable explanation as to what law the ref used to disallow our goal in the first half when their goalie hoofed his goal-kick straight at one of his team-mates and we scored a perfectly good goal from the rebound?
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- No surprise at all-haven't we all had enough of this slow passionless football?? -- Bob, Sunday, March 08, 03:29:04pm (NoHost/90.202.19.161)
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- On Silva again this one! -- ⚽️🥅, Sunday, March 08, 03:26:03pm (NoHost/148.252.147.205)
Just like Westham.
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- For me ... -- Long Termer, Sunday, March 08, 03:23:18pm (host86-147-182-137.range86-147.btcentralplus.com/86.147.182.137)
It's disrespecting us as paying customers. There was a good chance there for progress and more revenue and for a bit of excitement in a dull season. Saints weren't even that good were they. We are several points off Europe and most senior supporters I know, think we're 3 - 4 players at least off a European squad anyway. We aren't going down, so why on earth not give it a decent shot. For the time we give up and the money we pay, we deserve a lot better than that. Someone at the club needs to take ownership of that and whta we saw out there today.
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- ESR 30 mill, Chukweze valued at 30m. Muniz valued at 40m. Bobb valued at 30m. Terrible -- Jake villanova, Sunday, March 08, 03:15:36pm (NoHost/64.43.50.153)
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- You are a bit confused . . Muniz cost about £9m if that and is worth well over £40m . Chuck is only on loan. The other two Bobb and ESR did cost us about £30m . As well as Kevin . Other clubs sporting directors won’t get out of bed to sell us a player for less than that. It’s a matter of principle (NT) -- alanos, Sunday, March 08, 03:28:13pm (82-132-212-37.dab.02.net/82.132.212.37)
- You forgot Anderson £30 mill truly awful footballer (NT) -- Ffc, Sunday, March 08, 03:38:14pm (97e1e33c.skybroadband.com/151.225.227.60)
- Why is it when players do well it’s silvs who has done a brilliant job of improving them, yet when they haven’t improved it’s a bad signing snd we paid too much for them? (NT) -- Henry1879, Sunday, March 08, 03:58:58pm (82-132-222-179.dab.02.net/82.132.222.179)
- Silva -- Depressed, Sunday, March 08, 03:10:33pm (host81-159-178-64.range81-159.btcentralplus.com/81.159.178.64)
In a text message to my son when I saw team was here we go again re changes
We have no game until next Sunday,are not in relegation trouble and was.bemused that he did not select the first team
That is it from me.zi will even assist Marco in packing his bags and wave him off.
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- Picked a poor side , Reed on corners woeful, Muniz woeful, Smith-Rowe woeful. Chuckweze what's happened to him dreadful. Dominated the second half but so powder puff in front of goal. Don't understand why we threw the opportunity for a quarter final away. Very strange. -- Alboy, Sunday, March 08, 03:07:39pm (host109-150-14-246.range109-150.btcentralplus.com/109.150.14.246)
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- Southampton had all the clear cut chances and deserved it we were utter 🐕💩 players strolling around not a care in the world . Season over time for the club to make some serious decisions. We have a weak mentality it is a physiological problem (NT) -- Button, Sunday, March 08, 03:13:55pm (nmal-23-b2-v4wan-169190-cust1261.vm24.cable.virginm.net/80.5.116.238)
- Told ya. That's how serious Marco took this game. Re: Marco don't underestimate the power of the FA Cup.: He never has !!! (NT) -- Alboy, Saturday, March 07, 09:04:08pm (host109-150-14-246.range109-150.btcentralplus.com/109.150.14.246) (NT) -- CB, Sunday, March 08, 03:14:35pm (213-18-171-225.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.171.225)
- No natural goalscorers in the side (NT) -- Waterboy, Sunday, March 08, 03:16:57pm (NoHost/85.255.237.138)
- Silva -- Ken, Sunday, March 08, 03:06:33pm (33C63E8e.skybroadband.com/51.198.62.142)
Once again Silva has sold us down the river at this time of the season, League or Cup his poor team selections and tactics have cost us, he is too emotional and is often ruled by those emotions, he will never be a top manager as the big clubs know this and will not take a chance on him. He has been great for Fulham and I believe we have been good for his cgood for his career but I just don't think he can take us any further. My big fear is if a change is made who comes in, with the lack of footballing nous at Fulham in the people who mae the decisions it could be a disastrous choice, remember Magath ?
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- Embarrassing….. -- Muniz The Ghost, Sunday, March 08, 03:04:26pm (4e5622fd.skybroadband.com/78.86.34.253)
And most you mugs want him to lead the line in the league!
A clinical striker would have pulled us through this game - on the whole a very poor and embarrassing result.
Off you pop Silva
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- Sorry Marco...not good enough -- DDAII, Sunday, March 08, 03:04:10pm (NoHost/172.58.243.29)
Terrible selection, left side = no defenders, useless tactics on subs. Silva phoned it in. Shame really. Made saints better than should have been
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- Time for a new manager -- View from the Riverside, Sunday, March 08, 03:00:41pm (NoHost/104.28.86.52)
Sorry .. time for silva to move on. Sat in the riverside he does not look bothered … and our style of football needs refreshing . So much bad about that performance and no positives.
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- quick poll -- fulhamdave, Sunday, March 08, 02:59:35pm (unassigned.psychz.net/208.87.241.221)
Silva in or out
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- OUT NOW (NT) -- Ffc, Sunday, March 08, 03:01:49pm (97e1e33c.skybroadband.com/151.225.227.60)
- Out for me, he doesn’t seem to care (NT) -- CD, Sunday, March 08, 03:02:17pm (233.82.146.217.baremetal.zare.com/217.146.82.233)
- Taking the club for mugs do the players already know he is off the last two performances unacceptable totally unacceptable no drive passionless season over 😡🤬 (NT) -- Button, Sunday, March 08, 03:02:41pm (nmal-23-b2-v4wan-169190-cust1261.vm24.cable.virginm.net/80.5.116.238)
- Think its time for a change (NT) -- Fan, Sunday, March 08, 03:03:32pm (NoHost/45.148.12.30)
- Awful team selections last couple of games. Been a bloody good manager for us but at this point I really don’t mind if he doesn’t sign a new contract. (NT) -- Bexhill Beast, Sunday, March 08, 03:04:30pm (host86-142-67-240.range86-142.btcentralplus.com/86.142.67.240)
- He does seem to be taking the piss now and today was our chance to get something out of the season other than merely survival but he didn't seem to care. (NT) -- Harry68, Sunday, March 08, 03:05:30pm (cpc160099-nmal26-2-0-cust805.19-2.cable.virginm.net/82.18.163.38)
- OUT (NT) -- Cutler 22, Sunday, March 08, 03:09:58pm (customer.sfiabgr1.isp.starlink.com/150.228.61.226)
- Out, but he’s leaving anyway. (NT) -- RR, Sunday, March 08, 03:12:03pm (NoHost/104.220.143.92)
- Always been Silva in. However after the West Ham performance today needed to be good… it was worse! (NT) -- Silva out & take Muniz with u, Sunday, March 08, 03:13:44pm (4e5622fd.skybroadband.com/78.86.34.253)
- OUT ASAP (NT) -- Depressed, Sunday, March 08, 03:14:48pm (host81-159-178-64.range81-159.btcentralplus.com/81.159.178.64)
- Out and its not even close (NT) -- Same old story, Sunday, March 08, 03:15:33pm (NoHost/148.252.158.117)
- Of course In with proper goal scorers. Bobb has scored 3 goals in 48 games for City so why add another non effective wide player when our best striker is 36 (NT) -- Waterboy, Sunday, March 08, 03:18:55pm (NoHost/90.242.53.3)
- F Off Silva and take your ef ing coaching team with you. (NT) -- Captain Jack, Sunday, March 08, 03:52:53pm (host-80-46-1-168.as13285.net/80.46.1.168)
- Re: quick poll -- greenpole 1 (out), Sunday, March 08, 04:06:40pm (NoHost/31.94.60.26)
- Commit this week or do one.Too artgabtvneeds a bit of self awareness.Don’t we all. (NT) -- HemelRog, Sunday, March 08, 04:24:46pm (host31-104-142-81.range31-104.btcentralplus.com/31.104.142.81)
- If you're still silva in please explain why, I just can't understand stand how you can after today -- Time to go, Sunday, March 08, 02:59:33pm (NoHost/147.93.215.105)
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- At least we are spared another 30' of this rubbish -- ,, Sunday, March 08, 02:52:57pm (NoHost/128.1.171.133)
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- About sums it up really -- ,, Sunday, March 08, 02:51:09pm (NoHost/128.1.171.133)
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- more dross.. -- ,, Sunday, March 08, 02:43:10pm (NoHost/128.1.171.133)
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- Not Surprised at performance. -- Kimberly-Clark, Sunday, March 08, 02:00:04pm (host-2-102-164-149.as13285.net/2.102.164.149)
Was expecting this sort of performance when team was announced hopefully the 2nd Half will improve. Midfield and Forward positions taking time to gel and settle game could go the Distance.
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- kamikaze Defending playing 1 at the back 🤦♂️. Going forward we look ok but when it comes to out of possession awful utterly awful Bobb and Chuck don’t track back leaving massive space to counter. Sess is still asleep and don’t get me started on Muniz as it stands 50- 50 first goal is vital if we concede we are out -- Button, Sunday, March 08, 01:59:52pm (nmal-23-b2-v4wan-169190-cust1261.vm24.cable.virginm.net/80.5.116.238)
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- Very poor first half, please explain why Reed is taking corners? Woeful same thing every time. Smith-Rowe hardly touched the ball , Muniz invisible . Need to wake up expect quite a few changes. -- Alboy, Sunday, March 08, 01:53:09pm (host109-150-14-246.range109-150.btcentralplus.com/109.150.14.246)
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- What a terrible performance -- Fulham Russ, Sunday, March 08, 01:45:26pm (NoHost/31.94.16.231)
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- Really? I thought we dominated the game, and Bobb had a blinder. (NT) -- Zvezdara Lad, Sunday, March 08, 01:52:24pm (178-220-177-155.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs/178.220.177.155)
- It’s not been terrible. What game are you watching? (NT) -- The Drobe, Sunday, March 08, 01:58:29pm (NoHost/31.94.64.87)
- We are not in a relegation battle so why not select a full strength team? If we do not win as far as Iam concerned Marco can go (NT) -- Depressed, Sunday, March 08, 02:00:09pm (host81-159-178-64.range81-159.btcentralplus.com/81.159.178.64)
- Utter bullshite.Bobb has amazing skill.They had the best chance though. (NT) -- HemelRog, Sunday, March 08, 02:04:20pm (host31-104-142-81.range31-104.btcentralplus.com/31.104.142.81)
- Dross... -- ,, Sunday, March 08, 01:38:31pm (NoHost/128.1.171.133)
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- Is Ryan Sessegson pissed ?? -- Ffc, Sunday, March 08, 01:24:25pm (97e1e33c.skybroadband.com/151.225.227.60)
He’s having a nightmare
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- Sess having a mare so far -- ,, Sunday, March 08, 01:24:20pm (NoHost/128.1.171.133)
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- Will be really pissed off if this backfires -- P, Sunday, March 08, 12:03:48pm (92.40.176.70.threembb.co.uk/92.40.176.70)
Second string team today, after mid week mess why aren't we going for this...
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- Won't we all, time for a change next season please. Made unnecessary changes against Spam, now a week team in the cup!!! (NT) -- Cutler 22, Sunday, March 08, 12:06:22pm (customer.sfiabgr1.isp.starlink.com/150.228.61.226)
- Mystifying selection. Just hope Saints make several changes too. (NT) -- Bexhill Beast, Sunday, March 08, 12:30:30pm (host86-142-67-240.range86-142.btcentralplus.com/86.142.67.240)
- Just for the record and folks can wonder at this strange starting 11 - 23 Lecomte 21 Castagne 5 Andersen 15 Cuenca 30 Sessegnon 6 Reed 10 Cairney 32 Smith Rowe 14 Bobb 9 Rodrigo Muniz 19 Chukwueze Substitutes 1 Leno 2 Tete 3 Bassey 7 Jiménez 16 Berge 17 Iwobi 20 Lukić 24 King 33 Robinson (NT) -- CB, Sunday, March 08, 12:52:10pm (213-18-171-225.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.171.225)
- It's not second string. We have a good squad. (NT) -- GA, Sunday, March 08, 12:56:17pm (ool-18b90125.dyn.optonline.net/24.185.1.37)
- Right, early start, off in 10 minutes... -- Rupert, Sunday, March 08, 08:12:45am (97e45270.skybroadband.com/151.228.82.112)
Noon kick off utterly ridiculous and makes us vulnerable, turning the match into a bit of a lottery... but, hey, it's only Fulham... boys need to be bang at it...
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- Re: Right, early start, off in 10 minutes... (NT) -- Hopefully a Reaction after Wednesday (Marco), Sunday, March 08, 10:45:34am (host-2-102-164-149.as13285.net/2.102.164.149)
- Re: Right, early start, off in 10 minutes... (NT) -- 12.00k/o Certainly Soton Fans not thought about., Sunday, March 08, 10:48:59am (host-2-102-164-149.as13285.net/2.102.164.149)
- Re: Right, early start, off in 10 minutes... that's our punishment after Wednesday's pityful performance. (NT) -- Captain Jack, Sunday, March 08, 11:28:54am (host-80-46-1-168.as13285.net/80.46.1.168)
- Marco don't underestimate the power of the FA Cup. -- CB, Saturday, March 07, 06:59:23pm (213-18-171-225.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.171.225)
Best available starting 11. You only have to witness today's games to understand it.
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- Yes whoever is 100% fit should be up for selection . We will have exactly 1 week until our next game so no experimenting to ‘freshen up’ positions. (NT) -- Mickey, Saturday, March 07, 07:09:08pm (host86-142-52-127.range86-142.btcentralplus.com/86.142.52.127)
- Wrexham prem bound.Such a fine margin between Prem & Championship. Money is the only difference. And bias for big clubs. (NT) -- CB, Saturday, March 07, 07:40:22pm (213-18-171-225.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.171.225)
- A comma after Marco makes all the difference between a statement and a request! (NT) -- Long Termer, Saturday, March 07, 08:05:34pm (host86-147-182-137.range86-147.btcentralplus.com/86.147.182.137)
- Sad ! It's a request that most, barring pendants, would understand. Or both, depending on your persuasion. (NT) -- CB, Saturday, March 07, 08:29:54pm (213-18-171-225.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.171.225)
- It was an observation not a criticism. If you were in a bad mood, the post could easily be read as a criticism of Silva that he doesn't care about the FA Cup. (NT) -- Long Termer, Saturday, March 07, 09:21:53pm (host86-147-182-137.range86-147.btcentralplus.com/86.147.182.137)
- Re: Marco don't underestimate the power of the FA Cup.: He never has !!! (NT) -- Alboy, Saturday, March 07, 09:04:08pm (host109-150-14-246.range109-150.btcentralplus.com/109.150.14.246)
- Milllllllllll !!!!! -- Mickey, Saturday, March 07, 02:08:24pm (82-132-230-63.dab.02.net/82.132.230.63)
Currently winning at Hull and only a point behind Boro who they are still to play . What a joy it would be to behold them potentially replacing Spurs or more so for them West Ham🎉.
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- Not sure I understand the joy in them coming up. Scummy fans that want a row wherever they go. Only good point is they'll be guaranteed to go back down. (NT) -- Jim©, Saturday, March 07, 02:14:57pm (host86-170-249-213.range86-170.btcentralplus.com/86.170.249.213)
- The handful I know are all jolly good fellows , always backing Team and Players and very very fair when they don’t play well. Maybe not cerebral enough for the glitterati chosen few on here of course !! Imagine them having a conversation with our 2 Essay -writing Stooges 😂 (NT) -- Mickey, Saturday, March 07, 02:25:29pm (82-132-230-63.dab.02.net/82.132.230.63)
- HaHa love it Mickster.Jolly good fellows.Eton or Harrow. (NT) -- HemelRog, Saturday, March 07, 03:20:15pm (host31-104-142-81.range31-104.btcentralplus.com/31.104.142.81)
- My godfather is Millwall, but he's embarrassed by a load of their fans. West ham lite. (NT) -- Jim©, Saturday, March 07, 05:38:24pm (host86-170-249-213.range86-170.btcentralplus.com/86.170.249.213)
- I have to say that in all my years I can't recall ever meeting a Millwall fan. I've met people who support all the other London clubs, but never them. They must all live south of the river and rarely stray beyond their manor.. (NT) -- Mr Kurkuruza, Saturday, March 07, 09:52:03pm (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
- Wonder what the average Japanese tourist will make of it! (NT) -- bs, Saturday, March 07, 02:28:22pm (NoHost/62.64.185.203)
- Been to Millwall far too often to wish anything nice for the Club or its fans. Horrible place, horrible fans. (NT) -- GTS, Saturday, March 07, 04:03:49pm (NoHost/94.14.186.219)
- Funny - was only saying to someone yesterday how I remember attending Fulham-Spurs in the Scond Division back in the day - -- Rupert, Saturday, March 07, 08:07:15am (97e45270.skybroadband.com/151.228.82.112)
Just been on ITV4 - missed it but will get it on +1 - otherwise should be available on Catch Up.
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- Re: Funny - was only saying to someone yesterday how I remember attending Fulham-Spurs in the Scond Division back in the day - (NT) -- Peter Taylor missed a sitter was at game., Saturday, March 07, 09:10:34am (host-2-102-164-149.as13285.net/2.102.164.149)
- Remember that game well. It was very wet but a good match. (NT) -- FlitwickFulham, Saturday, March 07, 09:16:37am (flit-04-b2-v4wan-169180-cust2921.vm32.cable.virginm.net/81.96.171.106)
- I remember that game. A Brian Greenaway half volley equaliser? or does my memory trick me? (NT) -- Mr Kurkuruza, Saturday, March 07, 11:42:44am (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
- I remember mostly how crowded it was, couldn't get into The Enclosure where we normally stood, so had to stand with the Spurs fans in the Putney End. (NT) -- GTS, Saturday, March 07, 12:52:45pm (NoHost/94.14.186.219)
- That was the game where the Spurs fans invaded the pitch before the game from the Putney End into the Hammersmith End to get out the rain mostly (NT) -- Ffc, Saturday, March 07, 02:20:55pm (97e1e33c.skybroadband.com/151.225.227.60)
- Buried in Wednesdays news. Liverpool away -- bs, Friday, March 06, 05:18:26pm (NoHost/2.126.191.47)
A 5:30 kick off less than five miles from Aintree on the day of the Grand National. Bizarre or what. Good luck getting out or trying to get a drink after.
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- Trying to find a website that lists all our fixtures kick off times this season -- Duke, Friday, March 06, 02:27:20pm (NoHost/95.214.228.147)
After 69 years of following the boy mostly as a season ticket holder have had enough of the times of kick offs
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- Just google Fulham fc Fixtures 2025/26 (NT) -- Ffc, Friday, March 06, 02:51:46pm (97e1e33c.skybroadband.com/151.225.227.60)
- Here: https://www.fulhamfc.com/matches/?view=results (NT) -- Happy to help, Friday, March 06, 03:02:08pm (NoHost/90.204.91.94)
- So you saw Jezzard play? I must have just missed him after his injury. Although have no recall of the very first game. (NT) -- CB, Friday, March 06, 04:54:11pm (213-18-171-225.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.171.225)
- Re: Trying to find a website that lists all our fixtures kick off times this season -- Duke, Saturday, March 07, 08:14:41am (NoHost/95.214.228.147)
- Southampton digital tickets -- Dooley, Friday, March 06, 09:40:15am (seve-29-b2-v4wan-163452-cust742.vm13.cable.virginm.net/82.8.82.231)
Has anyone received their ticket for Sunday's game yet?
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- Unlike with away games, I received this straight away as part of the booking confirmation email on the 23rd. (NT) -- MF, Friday, March 06, 09:56:10am (NoHost/212.103.232.179)
- Actually really glad you've flagged this as i hadn't really thought about it, have just checked and definitely don't have an email from the club with my tickets, so guess i need to call the TO (NT) -- Same Old Story, Friday, March 06, 11:18:08am (85-115-43-2.mailcontrol.com/85.115.43.2)
- Thanks observer. Found it in my junk mail. (NT) -- Dooley, Friday, March 06, 12:27:57pm (seve-29-b2-v4wan-163452-cust742.vm13.cable.virginm.net/82.8.82.231)
- Bought a ticket for West Ham away on December 17th. It arrived on January 25th. A month after the game! (NT) -- bs, Friday, March 06, 02:05:09pm (82-132-220-91.dab.02.net/82.132.220.91)
- Highlights of Spurs Vs Palace -- Block E, Thursday, March 05, 11:51:31pm (host86-178-193-240.range86-178.btcentralplus.com/86.178.193.240)
Highlights of tonight's Spurs Vs Palace <a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/videos/cz6ee6pj192o">https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/videos/cz6ee6pj192o</a>
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- Arsenal, Manchester United and Chelsea are set to battle to sign England Under-19 centre-back Samuel Amissah, 18, from Fulham. -- have we offered a decent contract to the lad, Thursday, March 05, 11:42:01pm (host31-50-73-241.range31-50.btcentralplus.com/31.50.73.241)
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- Probably not, but sounds like we need to! (NT) -- Fkev, Friday, March 06, 09:08:26am (NoHost/57.133.213.87)
- Re: Arsenal, Manchester United and Chelsea are set to battle to sign England Under-19 centre-back Samuel Amissah, 18, from Fulham. -- mannyfrommarden (What is going on?/), Friday, March 06, 09:24:27am (NoHost/176.20.176.242)
- He's meant to be a good prospect poor from the club if we lose him should tie him down but how many players have left us and gone on to have fruitful careers? (NT) -- poor form, Friday, March 06, 11:15:52am (87-120-102-71.madcom.al/87.120.102.71)
- Damn kids! Tie them down, if they won't sign, cut off a toe. (NT) -- Ungrateful whippersnappers!, Friday, March 06, 12:32:53pm (95-177-87-24.bmsnet.managedbroadband.co.uk/95.177.87.24)
- Could be worse -- HE, Thursday, March 05, 08:49:51pm (lewi-28-b2-v4wan-166893-cust665.vm4.cable.virginm.net/86.16.2.154)
Could be Tottenham
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- oh to be in the palace end lol (NT) -- bs, Thursday, March 05, 08:57:08pm (NoHost/2.126.191.47)
- Lads, it's Spurs.......... (NT) -- GA, Thursday, March 05, 11:07:43pm (ool-18b90125.dyn.optonline.net/24.185.1.37)
- It's going to be an interesting battle against relegation. Some opinions still point towards Leeds, although I think they'll survive. Westham have found a bit of form and Forest's draw against City could be the result to boost their confidence, as they have a squad full of talent and shouldn't be anywhere near the drop zone. That leaves Tottenham who are in free fall. Tudor has been a totally ineffective appointment which has wasted valuable time and the players look completely disinterested. (NT) -- Samuel, Friday, March 06, 08:05:41am (NoHost/90.253.228.158)
- Forest should be fine, Spurs are only down there because of injuries so should pick up, I actually think Leeds may be the worst team in the league, they have been incredibly lucky so far, may come down to the final day at West Ham which is surely the most vile of three really vile clubs... (NT) -- Rupert, Friday, March 06, 10:34:31am (97e45270.skybroadband.com/151.228.82.112)
- Palace goal just disallowed. His Nose off side -- Get rid of this bent VAR garbage, Thursday, March 05, 08:36:11pm (maid-08-b2-v4wan-169552-cust751.vm41.cable.virginm.net/80.192.206.240)
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- Wan- Bissaka -- Muffy Diver., Thursday, March 05, 08:15:25pm (host-2-102-164-149.as13285.net/2.102.164.149)
The Tom Daley Award for 2026 bloody awful.
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- Fans must take some of the blame for last night's result. Terrible atmosphere, Embarrassing. Do these people think they're watching snooker? -- Pump up the volume, Thursday, March 05, 08:04:45pm (NoHost/90.204.91.94)
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- West Ham -- Alboy, Thursday, March 05, 07:48:09pm (host109-150-14-246.range109-150.btcentralplus.com/109.150.14.246)
Yes it was a poor game, we had more possession, more shots, more shots on target. It boiled down to us making a mistake that gave them a goal and their keeper making a couple of great saves from King and Castagne. Small margins change games including var again changing a decision that cost us. Many are blaming the Manager for the line up but changes were definitely realistic considering we played three days before. I certainly get the frustration we shouldn't have lost this game. The main thing is to regroup and go again. The next game gives us the perfect chance.
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- Thrown game -- Just asking, Thursday, March 05, 07:11:18pm (NoHost/78.111.194.83)
Any truth in the rumour the players threw the game last night as they were pissed off with Spuds constant moaning about the slight push in our first goal against them.
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- Sunday -- Depressed, Thursday, March 05, 12:00:22pm (host81-159-178-64.range81-159.btcentralplus.com/81.159.178.64)
Since our only hope of a trophy winning the FA Cup.
As such will Silva realise his errors and select a strongest team avaliable. We are pretty safe from relegation so there is no need for resting players who are fit to play.
I will keep my fingers and toes crossed!!!!!
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- No Chance! Changes a plenty incoming. Goalie Castagne Andersen Cuenca Reed Lukic King Muniz all start. (NT) -- Marco Silva II, Thursday, March 05, 12:24:03pm (NoHost/148.252.146.254)
- Every chance ! But does Marco actually know what his strongest team is, allowing for injuries ? Do any of us really know ? A dozen responses would select a dozen options, both nominal and positional. The more pertinent question might be what’s Eckert going to do with his team on Sunday.? Getting to the play offs has to be the Saint’s priority, so maybe more tweaks than us. The only certainty I can predict is if we fail to progress there’s gonna be carnage here… (NT) -- Bad Boy, Thursday, March 05, 12:59:22pm (NoHost/2.126.58.251)
- All, with the exception of the goalkeeper, have been first choice players at one time or another. (NT) -- Straw Clutchers Anonymous, Thursday, March 05, 01:11:37pm (NoHost/90.196.13.114)
- Should we make Silva one of the highest paid managers in the league? -- Jake, Thursday, March 05, 09:17:45am (NoHost/64.43.50.46)
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- No. Get rid.... Am fed up of every time we look to be within touching distance of something he thinks he's better than he is and bigger than the club and makes some ridiculous changes to personal, set up, tactics etc. You've taken us as far as you can. Time for us both to move on. Glasner in (NT) -- Carter, Thursday, March 05, 10:26:42am (NoHost/79.173.173.66)
- Glasner in! and what do you think is attractive to Glasner in his career progression, that would make Fulham FC the move he wanted? His only ambition at fulham would be winning another domestic cup. (NT) -- Mr Kurkuruza, Thursday, March 05, 10:42:07am (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
- Glasner was wanted by the best and perhaps fortunately for us has made himself somewhat less appealing with his recent behaviour. There are going to be a lot of big managers about after the WC and Glasner may find that he is not as desireable as he once was. This is the only way we will be able to get a manager to punch below his weiaght and capable of winning something. Is it too much to ask to win something just for once? (NT) -- Carter, Thursday, March 05, 11:08:14am (NoHost/79.173.173.66)
- That's optimistic. In the fullness of time will owners give a toss about what Glasner said? He's an above average coach at a bang average club. Of course top clubs will want him. (NT) -- Mr Kurkuruza, Thursday, March 05, 03:11:16pm (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
- If I was Khan, i'd be chucking absolutely everything I could to get Iraola through the door tbh. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Thursday, March 05, 03:19:59pm (NoHost/81.79.78.26)
- I agree with this... and he's out of contract as well. After the Frank debacle, Spurs will want someone a lot more high profile, so other than Man Utd, should leave us with a chance, and if Utd get him, I'd take Carrick. (NT) -- SCA, Thursday, March 05, 03:34:11pm (NoHost/90.196.13.114)
- Yes a great coach, but same with Glasner, why would he move sideways? (NT) -- Mr Kurkuruza, Thursday, March 05, 03:54:21pm (92.40.169.131.threembb.co.uk/92.40.169.131)
- London, seemingly ambitious plans, over double the ground capacity he's currently at... sell him the project, it's what Americans are good at isn't it? (NT) -- SCA, Thursday, March 05, 04:13:25pm (NoHost/90.196.13.114)
- I honestly don't think we're sidewways from Bournemouth. Our ground holds almost 3 times as many people, for a start. They're punching above their weight way, way more than we are. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Thursday, March 05, 04:40:04pm (NoHost/81.79.78.26)
- By your own metric, attendance size is an irrelevance econonmically speaking. They consistently beat us at their place and finish in similar if not higher positions. So for me that is sideways at best.. (NT) -- Mr Kurkuruza, Thursday, March 05, 07:06:31pm (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
- I think all of those things happen because they have a better manager, personally. So, we're reasonably 'flat' in performance terms with them over the last 10 years (they have the edge if anything), but we're still the bigger club. We've beaten Spurs 4 of the last 6 times we've played, only lost once and look set to finish above them for successive seasons - that doesn't mean we're the bigger club. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Friday, March 06, 09:34:07am (85-115-43-2.mailcontrol.com/85.115.43.2)
- Historically yes, we have been a team who have consistently maintained a higher place in the football league. However as things stand now I think we are much more even, and have been since coming back up to the PL. Yes their coach is excellent, but so is ours. If you are comparing net worth of each club it appears that we are worth more, but will some of that be due to location and the new stand? (NT) -- Mr Kurkuruza, Friday, March 06, 09:51:59am (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
- Again, my argument isn't about what each club is worth. But by every metric, other than concentrating on a very, very recent bias - we're much bigger. Average league postion? - a division and a half higher. Average attendance? (total, historical), - more than double. Years in top flight? - Almost 4 times as many. Cups? Far, far more pedigree. Theyve had 15 years in the top 2 divisions, we've had 86. I just can't see any possible rationale for suggesting we're not a much bigger club. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Friday, March 06, 10:07:12am (85-115-43-2.mailcontrol.com/85.115.43.2)
- As for your initial dismissal of attendance as a metric - we're not talking economically, are we? I'm not saying having 3 times the capacity gives us bundles more spending power, i'm saying it indicates that we're a far bigger club. Historical league positions, performance, time in respective divisions etc all point to the same. IMHO of course. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Friday, March 06, 09:49:04am (85-115-43-2.mailcontrol.com/85.115.43.2)
- 160v180m revenue, don’t have many chances to take a top job, no way he’d be come, same as Frank wouldn’t have pre Spurs. You don’t go sideways if you’re stock is high, they have plans to upsize stadium, have a very young and exciting squad, great place to live too. I’d consider Frank, but there will be lots of good managers interested, FFC is a really good job, if silva thinks he’s taken us as far as he can, fine, but it will be an opportunity for the club, id be excited. (NT) -- Henry1879, Thursday, March 05, 08:23:51pm (cpc113812-lea23-2-0-cust213.6-3.cable.virginm.net/86.26.216.214)
- We were undone by a team that pressed and set up not to lose. Just like the Everton game we were not inventive enough. Passing to players facing our goal, backwards and sideways even on 90 mins. (NT) -- no plan B, Thursday, March 05, 10:37:45am (host31-50-73-241.range31-50.btcentralplus.com/31.50.73.241)
- Most of the poster on here are happy to exist and never win anything so why not it'll keep them happy (NT) -- same old season, Thursday, March 05, 12:36:02pm (NoHost/217.216.60.27)
- Watching Osulas winner last night, played the ball to the full back and just ran down the wing, didn't need to stop or look behind. Ball played up in front of him, and bingo. We would have knocked it around the back, and waited till Wilson, Kevin, Sammy ESR stopped and faced Leno. (NT) -- ball behind the back 4 is the right one sometimes, Thursday, March 05, 12:42:37pm (host31-50-73-241.range31-50.btcentralplus.com/31.50.73.241)
- After seeing what Palace achieved last season, could Marco and the Team's focus now be on the Cup? Arguably, apart from City, on our day, we can compete with any team and a win on Sunday will see us only one win away from a Wembley semi final and two from playing in the final. They know, only too well, that we completely blew it last season by getting the tactics wrong against Palace, even though they gave us a lesson a few weeks earlier? (NT) -- Ted White, Thursday, March 05, 12:48:11pm (host86-191-229-228.range86-191.btcentralplus.com/86.191.229.228)
- Reality -- Kimberly-Clark, Thursday, March 05, 08:45:22am (host-2-102-164-149.as13285.net/2.102.164.149)
We are a lower middle team that’s the inconsistency of performances you get they can’t all be brilliant one week and not good enough the next. It’s was awful last night especially our distribution. But I’m taking our league position this season particularly when you see some of the Clubs below us.
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- It won’t stop many claiming we are still on for Europe if we win next week. I have always been happy for mid table premier survival any more a bonus. Not to excuse last nights abysmal performance. Maybe next year as we have the makings of a more consistent side. (NT) -- CB, Thursday, March 05, 08:53:59am (213-18-171-225.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.171.225)
- We're starting to sound like Delboy - 'this time next year'... (NT) -- Same Old Story, Thursday, March 05, 09:15:46am (NoHost/81.79.78.26)
- History has us as a mid to lower table club in the top division at best. How can the club ever break into the top 8 consistently? The PL table positions are now largely as they should be based on the economic potential of each club. (NT) -- Mr Kurkuruza, Thursday, March 05, 09:28:41am (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
- Nobody is saying we should do it consistently, just take advantage of one of these opportunities. Repeatedly we have no real pressure looking down at relegation, had decent early cup draws enabling us to plot a pretty easy path to 1/4 final stage and we keep either not grasping the opportunities. I agree with SOS, in 5 years it’ll be, just 1 more year of stability. We aren’t a young team, the point of buying experience is it should translate to dealing with pressure games. (NT) -- Henry1879, Thursday, March 05, 09:57:34am (82-132-222-115.dab.02.net/82.132.222.115)
- My question was not rhetorical. How can we break into the top 8 even for the odd season or two if the best funded sides are playing to their potential? The trouble with top level football is that it strangles hope for lesser funded clubs. You have to rely on the big clubs imploding, as in the Scottish PL at the moment. (NT) -- Mr Kurkuruza, Thursday, March 05, 10:26:17am (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
- Because other clubs on similar budgets to ours have done it and look likely to do it this season? (NT) -- Same Old Story, Thursday, March 05, 10:47:00am (NoHost/81.79.78.26)
- Yes maybe for the odd season or two a club like ours can nick a 7th or 8th place. But what do FFC have to change to make this more likely to happen? How are Brentford doing as well as they are? (NT) -- Mr Kurkuruza, Thursday, March 05, 11:10:37am (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
- I think what people want isn’t that consistent top 7, it’s almost impossible given PSR, only way is to turnover 500/600m a year, won’t happen, if ever; for a club like FFC. But we can have a season which a lot of similar clubs have had when you grasp an opportunity and win something or finish 6/7th. We had a couple under Roy, otherwise you end up being England under Southgate, decent, always qualify but come up short in big moments & don’t get over the line. (NT) -- Henry1879, Thursday, March 05, 11:38:17am (cpc113812-lea23-2-0-cust213.6-3.cable.virginm.net/86.26.216.214)
- we aren’t planning on winning the league, other teams have done it, almost every one similar to us. WHU conference win, palace FA cup, BHA Europe recently, forest in Europe, these are our direct rivals, not FFP top 6 out of reach revenue giants. I really hope I’m wrong, but we almost implode at times in the key moments, or just put in a nothing game, (Utd cup, Everton, WHU home etc). If we are losing to a top team I can live with that, but these are opportunities that can br grasped. (NT) -- Henry1879, Thursday, March 05, 10:53:19am (82-132-222-115.dab.02.net/82.132.222.115)
- Are you serious! The table based on economic potential looks nothing like the current table (NT) -- The Drobe, Thursday, March 05, 01:58:47pm (host109-152-205-24.range109-152.btcentralplus.com/109.152.205.24)
- Definitely still on for Europe. The cup + 8th is still very much doable. Two weeks ago people were saying we were about to be in a relegation scrap! Things change fast. It's not like any of the teams around us have been consistent and immune from dropping points randomly. Lukic back, Muniz + Jedi with more miles since injury, only player out is Kevin and that's in one of our deepest positions. Manager still has things to learn, but he's only 47, less than half-way through his managerial career. (NT) -- eganonoa, Thursday, March 05, 09:16:44am (NoHost/195.222.49.31)
- Nobody sane was saying relegation, bookies had us shortest at probs 30/1. This point of having no relegation pressure and hardly any injuries (again) makes it even more frustrating. I hope I’m wrong, but just feels like a repeated pattern of knocked out first time we play a really good team in a cup, almost Englsnd under Southgate, and taper off when 7/8th is a real possibility, but as you say it’s all still there on the table, just don’t trust we’ll step up when needed. (NT) -- Henry1879, Thursday, March 05, 10:22:40am (82-132-222-115.dab.02.net/82.132.222.115)
- IMO, we currently have the best squad/manager set up in our history. Better than the teams around us. A few adjustments in the summer are all that's needed. Then I recall that being the case on several occasions. I somehow think that at last the Khans understand that and will be more flexible this summer. (NT) -- CB Silva still a? mark, Thursday, March 05, 10:29:36am (213-18-171-225.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.171.225)
- No team has drawn less games than us so that really does prove we are either all or nothing (NT) -- Waterboy, Thursday, March 05, 09:04:06am (NoHost/90.242.53.3)
- On the beach. This is exactly the time last year when are form dipped till the end of the season with only one or two decent performances to close out the season. I mean "decent" not what we had seen earlier in the season. Something with the mentality of this group is off. Plenty of talent, but a shortage of grit and graft. -- RR, Thursday, March 05, 01:58:25am (NoHost/104.220.143.92)
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- Wont bother going over the game -- Same old story, Thursday, March 05, 12:14:12am (NoHost/148.252.157.191)
As we could all see how bad it was, but i, and many around me, called it as a likely result as soon as we saw the teamsheet. Horrible selection and didnt improve from there.
I’m now looking forward to the summer and what we need to do, as we’re clearly blowing europe in the league and the fa cup has dissapointing quarter final defeat to a mid prem side written all over it.
So after having a nice 120 mile drive home to mull things over this is where i am.
1) new keeper and leno out of the door. We just cant afford to be spending £7m a year on wages for someone to keep chucking games.
2) i really hate to say it but i’d possibly start looking at moving king on. The resultant impact on SCR would be really useful and he’s just not having any output whatsoever, no goals, no assists.
3) i’d be less sure about signing Chuckwueze based on post afcon performance so far. Still 8 games to evaluate but not the gimme i thought it was.
4) Not sure whats going on with muniz either. I know he’s rusty etc etc but he just looks completely ineffective.
5) As others have said, i’m fine with silva signing, but not overly bothered if he doesnt. He needs to decide one way or another though so we can either plan for succession or not.
6) we need more central midfield options, because when Berge is completely off it like tonight, what can we actually do at the moment?
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- I agree with everything posted here. I would add that Cairney has to call it a day. Berge just isn’t good enough. CF gonna give us the biggest headache tho imho, I don’t think the two we have are up to it and it’s such a hard position to fill. I do think we have some real reliable quality in the squad and are looking really exciting with a couple of good signings. (NT) -- Just visiting, Thursday, March 05, 01:24:32am (host86-168-84-174.range86-168.btcentralplus.com/86.168.84.174)
- Muniz and Jedi totally off it coming back from injury. Just have to wait and use their good alternates. King's the new Andreas. 10 or an 8? I'd say an 8 but not strong enough to be one. As a 10, good in the press, but not quite enough end product. That was Andreas and like him could take a while to arrive. Chuckwaeze is looking the 2nd coming of Manor Solomon, but still some incredible passes the 1st 30 minutes. Cairney and Berge are too slow and soft together. Each needs an engine nextdoor. (NT) -- eganonoa, Thursday, March 05, 05:00:24am (cable-146-255-156-96.dynamic.telemach.ba/146.255.156.96)
- Barring the King one agree with all that. Just turned 19 and think this kid could be something else, agree that he needs to start having more of an impact. Leno been deteriorating year on year for me. Was outstanding first season but nowhere near that level now. Chuk hasn't looked the same since AFCON, losing his mother a factor maybe?. Muniz just doesn't look fit full stop and think he's always going to be one of those streaky players where it's feast or famine (NT) -- TSW, Thursday, March 05, 06:13:10am (NoHost/31.94.72.27)
- Should have cashed in on Muniz. Can't keep buying project players like Kevin and Bobb. We need players who can perform now. Silva can go - do we really want him one of the highest paid managers in the league? (NT) -- Jake villanova, Thursday, March 05, 06:35:58am (NoHost/64.43.132.173)
- Re: Wont bother going over the game -- Cal, Thursday, March 05, 06:47:35am (33beec5a.skybroadband.com/51.190.236.90)
- Brilliant post SOS, absolutely spot on. (NT) -- Spencer, Thursday, March 05, 08:08:53am (NoHost/2.126.137.25)
- CM has always been where the game is won and lost, we ended the game with poor Iwobi there on his own! I agree, new keeper has been needed for a while, along with natural goal scorers. Think i see Cuenca as more reliable at the moment as well (NT) -- Waterboy, Thursday, March 05, 09:07:30am (NoHost/90.242.53.3)
- Yes Leno shoud be sold, his stats suggest that. How about loaning King to a decent championship club to develop his game? Chukueweisi's Mother has just died so he might not have a clear head. Muniz just needs a goal. Jedi's physical/psychological well being? We need a decent attacking midfielder! (NT) -- Mr Kurkuruza, Thursday, March 05, 09:23:54am (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
- King - possibly, but we may need the fiscal input now to improve other areas and a loan doesn't do that. Chuck - possibly, in which case its on the manager not to keep selecting him. However his career stats suggest he may have just defaulted to the norm. Muniz - not sure, it doesn't look like confidence, literally nothing is working. Jedi - not sure of your point here, he's just been crap for 3 months. Again, if too fragile, then manager should take him out of the lineup. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Thursday, March 05, 10:09:33am (NoHost/81.79.78.26)
- Re: Robinson. I wonder if he doesn't believe his body is in the same peak condition as it was in the pre injury phase. They must do physical tests to make sure his body is working properly? And at the end of the day the only arena Robinson can truly test this is in a PL match. As for Silva's selection process. Would he not go on advice from his team, and from what he sees in the training matches? (NT) -- Mr Kurkuruza, Thursday, March 05, 10:35:02am (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
- I don't think our league performance should suffer so we can try to get our left back back up to a decent level. More sensible to start with the performing one and bring AR on later in the game if possible. Not sure why you're asking me the second part - the evidence of last night is that he got it clearly wrong. Thats not hindsight when plenty of people said so as soon as the teams were out. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Thursday, March 05, 11:01:35am (NoHost/81.79.78.26)
- I have to say, pre game i thought it was the right choice, Sess hasn't been brilliant the last few games- had a torrid time at Sunderland defensively and again v Spurs when he left Richarlison to head in. Robinson did ok v Bowen to be fair but with the ball poor bar one or two good crosses at the end. (NT) -- Jim© The Devon IP, Thursday, March 05, 11:17:40am (62-64-192-58.virtual1.co.uk/62.64.192.58)
- re Sess - He hasn't been brilliant but he's still offered far more than Robinson in recent weeks, and hasn't been actively breaking our moves down like Robinson has. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Thursday, March 05, 12:26:29pm (NoHost/81.79.78.26)
- Sess was dire v S.land, gets bit of a pass from many due to his history & because we won. Even if not great now only one of them has been a top prem LB and young enough to re-find it. Thought he did some great defending at back post last night, hardly gave Bowen a sniff, whereas summerville gave Tete a tough time. Sess will, imo, be a bit part player, ok at a few things, but doesn’t excel at a lot and can do a job at times but not much more than that. (NT) -- Henry1879, Thursday, March 05, 08:32:34pm (cpc113812-lea23-2-0-cust213.6-3.cable.virginm.net/86.26.216.214)
- And yet, for all you say (and no, i don't agree with it all), he's still been significantly the better option in the last 2 months. I'd personally try to get money in for Robinson, let one of our right backs go, and try to bring in a starting full back on either side. But again, this goes back to the King point, we may need to sell him to facilitate that kind of shuffle. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Friday, March 06, 09:46:44am (85-115-43-2.mailcontrol.com/85.115.43.2)
- Tbh my eyebrows lifted when I saw the line. but I was more concerned about Cairney starting and King replacing ESR. As for Robinson my thinking was that he must come good soon, but now I am beginning to wonder if that's true. I didn't attend last night due to Norovirus, so any constructive feedback on Robinson's performance would be good. (NT) -- Mr Kurkuruza, Thursday, March 05, 11:50:20am (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
- Hard to disagree with any of that. Leno is costing points, so drop from the team. I've been saying that for a long time (when every shot from outside the area went in). His shot saving percentage is 19th in the division. King, he just doesn't look or appear strong enough which may be an age thing but his frame is particularly scrawny. I'd be all over signing Chuk yeah his form has dipped but he's an exciting player that can be a match winner. Andre from Wolves may be the Berge alternative... (NT) -- Jim© The Devon IP, Thursday, March 05, 10:06:18am (62-64-192-58.virtual1.co.uk/62.64.192.58)
- As much as Iwobi seems to have found his home, ESR hasn't. His first touch was atrocious last night. (NT) -- Ronnie Gibson's Pedantic Elbow, Thursday, March 05, 11:06:09am (cpc107643-gill19-2-0-cust94.20-1.cable.virginm.net/81.105.102.95)
- Mr K do you know that everypost you make includes a question or 2. Don’t think I’ve ever noticed that before. (NT) -- WayneKerrins, Thursday, March 05, 06:12:59pm (host109-154-204-155.range109-154.btcentralplus.com/109.154.204.155)
- Hope -- Eerwah, Thursday, March 05, 12:08:00am (customer.brseaus1.isp.starlink.com/168.140.255.252)
With 40 points banked, nowhere squad ready for Europe, lacking real tenacity or ability for transfer rectify, strategic moves for finding out personnel limits may be the way to prepare for next Premiership season. Sunday's fixture contains instant value and perhaps might explain.
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- The flatness of that performance -- Mickey, Wednesday, March 04, 10:42:13pm (82-132-213-179.dab.02.net/82.132.213.179)
had a lot to do with that horrendous CM starting Combination . Lightweights King and Cairney thrown in with the passive Berge against a physically strong opponent who were not going to relinquish control . Sess left out for the currently way off the pace disappointing Jedi! ESR inexplicably dropped and Iwobi moved out wide left !! Bobb not starting !! What was the rationale behind Silva’s thinking ??? Yet again an over -elaboration in our build up play allowing time for them to comfortably contain us ! Much as I gave championed Silva , he got it badly wrong tonight . Self inflicted problems from giving the ball away cheaply continue to surface as frustrations grow when we can’t break down a team.
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- Can’t lie… -- bs, Wednesday, March 04, 10:42:09pm (82-132-220-250.dab.02.net/82.132.220.250)
Seriously enjoying the Spurs meltdown 😂
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- Waste of an evening -- Going, Wednesday, March 04, 10:19:54pm (host109-148-24-107.range109-148.btcentralplus.com/109.148.24.107)
Two poor sides. I like King but he needs to build his physique so easily bustled iff the ball. Muniz clearly ring rusty. Leno the WHU saviour yet again. TC should have had a pen but after they scored we looked poor. Silva either underestimated West H or overestimated our level and our consistency
Need a reaction on Sunday.
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- Shocked at the vitriol on here! -- Alboy, Wednesday, March 04, 10:08:04pm (NoHost/148.252.146.71)
We win two games and we're on our way to Europe. We lose a game and we are rubbish and so is the Manager. Typical knee knee jerk reactions! We should have beaten them We didn't. Move on get ready for next game cheer up.
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- Well it was an absolutely terrible performance at a moment of real hope. The flattest we've seen the players this season and it's inexplicable. I know you don't think they are, but people are entitled to have a moan, even if much of it is OTT. (NT) -- eganonoa, Wednesday, March 04, 10:18:07pm (cable-146-255-156-96.dynamic.telemach.ba/146.255.156.96)
- Re: Shocked at the vitriol on here! (NT) -- We played like we’ve been on the piss., Wednesday, March 04, 10:18:13pm (host-2-102-164-149.as13285.net/2.102.164.149)
- Dont think any true supporter could honestly think we would get a spot in europe (NT) -- Waterboy, Wednesday, March 04, 10:18:33pm (NoHost/85.255.234.51)
- Wasn't great, games like that happen, changes didn't help and missed Harry, nothing seemed to come off tonight. That said josh shot well saved just before half time and Timmy's near the end, again credit the keeper. Sure the mood will change again if we get past the saints on Sunday. (NT) -- Sw18ffc, Wednesday, March 04, 10:24:11pm (host-81-179-249-237.as13285.net/81.179.249.237)
- We were never going to Europe not with this squad and manager the last 3 seasons have proved we don't have the mentality for it we make-up the numbers in the league simple as that we go on a decent cup run and like clockwork we bottle that calling it now we beat Southampton and lose the quarters (NT) -- The same, Wednesday, March 04, 10:25:44pm (NoHost/147.93.215.114)
- Predictable post Alboy. Any passionate Fulham fan would be disgusted by that performance and driven to vent feelings. Manager got it wrong (again) but players apart from Raul were awful against such a poor side. (NT) -- CB, Thursday, March 05, 08:13:44am (213-18-171-225.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.171.225)
- Why should we have beaten them? (NT) -- Bexhill Beast, Thursday, March 05, 08:57:23am (host86-142-67-240.range86-142.btcentralplus.com/86.142.67.240)
- I wasn't there tonight and it didn't sound good -- Beano Reader, Wednesday, March 04, 09:54:33pm (host-92-19-68-124.as13285.net/92.19.68.124)
However, if that's the end of the season as far as you are concerned and Silva is Satan, then don't bother turning up Sunday. My attendance, for personal reasons, is much reduced but I am up for the cup on Sunday. If that goes pear shaped, maybe one or two games before this season is over. And, after 40+ years, who knows when, if ever, again. Overpriced, boring modern football and a support base I'm growing to despise. I don't feel good about this, ask SoS who knows how long I've followed this club. But hey ho.
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- How disappointing -- Henry1879, Wednesday, March 04, 09:48:46pm (cpc113812-lea23-2-0-cust213.6-3.cable.virginm.net/86.26.216.214)
The last couple of weeks just about sums it up. Beat spurs and the hopes rise; is this the season, is this the one we turn a good season into a special season, is this where we go, no we aren’t going to stumble along to 12/13th, but kick on and finish 7th/8th and Europe awaits, it’s the hope that kills you. West Ham are decent, certainly better now under Nuno than early season, player for player they’ve got a really decent team, Fernandes, Bowen, summerville, diof, todibo, they’ve got some class players, but that game was there to win. We seem to go into our shell at big times when we seem to gain momentum, Leeds away and Everton at home spring to mind, the pressure should be off, we could be aggressive and really go front foot but we just wilt a bit and almost look scared to lose.
Some odd tactical ones, king is just not strong enough at the moment, any physical contact and he gets knocked off the ball, missed ESR knitting attacks together. Not sure why we diverged from what worked well v spurs, but even with the players who started they just didn’t have urgency until game was in the last 10 minutes. Chuk was almost anonymous, where’s that free flowing brilliant player we saw glimpses of. Only attacking player who comes out with any credit is raul, our attack looked directionless after he went off, thought he was having a superb game and didn’t looked tired at all.
Thought it was a nailed on pen to them for handball, hit his bicep to my eyes, the Fernandez one the ref bottled, didn’t think it was a foul, but when he gave it surely it’s a yellow, it’s never just a foul. Also thought it wasn’t a pen on Cairney, fine with them over turning it. Maybe it’s harsh, this is a tough league, it’s hard to keep winning, but just feels again we are letting opportunities slip through our fingers.
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- Excellent result!! -- Jari’s Mullet, Wednesday, March 04, 09:35:26pm (170.pool90-167-166.dynamic.orange.es/90.167.166.170)
I really want Spurs to go down.
We would have bollocksed europe anyway.
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- Why -- Depressed, Wednesday, March 04, 09:34:45pm (host86-134-226-60.range86-134.btcentralplus.com/86.134.226.60)
As Wilson was injured only change should have been to bring in Chuck and play same system as Sunday. I have reached the point where I could not care less if Silva leaves.
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- Fifth game this season Silva’s tinkering has cost us what is he doing Muniz is nowhere near ready why take Raul off we were absolute pony couldn’t pass 2 yards to each other chuck awful terrible Berge terrible Cairney terrible king terrible Leno terrible command the situation Robinson looks done at the top level shadow of the player . -- Button, Wednesday, March 04, 09:34:22pm (nmal-23-b2-v4wan-169190-cust1261.vm24.cable.virginm.net/80.5.116.238)
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- Abysmal rubbish -- Ffc, Wednesday, March 04, 09:28:04pm (97e1e33c.skybroadband.com/151.225.227.60)
Well done Fulham that’s the league season finished
Get the chance to have a push for European football and we put in a dreadful performance…. Totally wrong starting eleven …. ESR , Bobb totally invisible when they come on … Chukwueze is certainly no Harry Wilson is he
No fight no passion no aggression… against a puss poor West Ham
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- This has happened the last 3 seasons under silva why are we sacrificing a run in where we can get Europe for a manger who won't sign a new deal refuses to improve and has olmo tactical knowledge? The fact he's considered by some as our greatest manager are insane and need to check in to the asylum (NT) -- Off ya pop silva, Wednesday, March 04, 09:33:42pm (NoHost/147.93.215.116)
Re: Abysmal rubbish -- Mr Angry, Wednesday, March 04, 09:35:21pm (host86-130-106-88.range86-130.btcentralplus.com/86.130.106.88)
- One loss and the league season is finished.FFS. (NT) -- HemelRog, Wednesday, March 04, 09:36:21pm (host81-129-180-49.range81-129.btcentralplus.com/81.129.180.49)
- FFC have tonight banned all supporters over 50 to enable the club to push on to higher echelons. And any further defeats the club will then extend the ban to over 40s. (NT) -- FFC age inspector., Wednesday, March 04, 10:26:01pm (NoHost/94.2.243.131)
- The worst performance of the season by a country mile players believing there own hype utter 💩 -- Button, Wednesday, March 04, 09:28:02pm (nmal-23-b2-v4wan-169190-cust1261.vm24.cable.virginm.net/80.5.116.238)
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- Robinson -- ., Wednesday, March 04, 09:27:59pm (NoHost/104.28.88.140)
Haven't seen him pass the salt all season. Shocking footballer.
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- Oscar Bobb...is this another player we need to wait for 2 seasons to come good? -- Jake villanova, Wednesday, March 04, 09:22:02pm (NoHost/64.43.159.84)
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- Can the silva riders defend this? Why did we need so many changes why did he not see West Ham's game plan and decide to pack the midfield he doesn't care about the club he's only stay for the pay check -- Mr inconsistent, Wednesday, March 04, 09:21:59pm (NoHost/147.93.215.116)
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- Terrible shocking can’t pass the ball no movement awful this result is on Silva why take off Raul he was the only one that look like he cared 😡 -- Button, Wednesday, March 04, 09:05:18pm (nmal-23-b2-v4wan-169190-cust1261.vm24.cable.virginm.net/80.5.116.238)
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- Mr Inconsistent strikes again wherever he goes! Silva you think you are better than the club, then go! -- Fulham Russ, Wednesday, March 04, 09:01:00pm (NoHost/31.94.72.181)
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- The better team, but very disjointed. -- HE, Wednesday, March 04, 08:21:14pm (lewi-28-b2-v4wan-166893-cust665.vm4.cable.virginm.net/86.16.2.154)
Think either Lukic or ESR into CM or Chuk moved onto the left needed.
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- Berge, chuck and Robinson need to pull their socks up and find a white shirt. -- Cutler 22, Wednesday, March 04, 08:01:30pm (customer.sfiabgr1.isp.starlink.com/150.228.63.222)
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- Mind blown why make so many changes I think Cairney is going to get dispossessed a lot he isn’t good when he is getting pressed high . Silva does some weird things sometimes I will trust his judgement COYW 🔥⚽️ -- Button, Wednesday, March 04, 07:00:42pm (nmal-23-b2-v4wan-169190-cust1261.vm24.cable.virginm.net/80.5.116.238)
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- I hope these changes don't backfire, not sure what Silva is thinking making the changes! -- Cutler 22, Wednesday, March 04, 06:22:24pm (customer.sfiabgr1.isp.starlink.com/150.228.63.222)
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- Likely, simply, managing minutes given the fixture congestion (NT) -- RR, Wednesday, March 04, 06:25:12pm (NoHost/104.220.143.92)
- Well Wilson limped off on Sunday, so I assume he is injured, bit surprised by ESR though. (NT) -- GTS, Wednesday, March 04, 06:29:38pm (NoHost/94.14.186.219)
- same as he did for leeds, we get a decent run going, come up against a side we should beat and he plays around. Wilson out injured so just replace him with Chuck, really no need to do anything else. No excuse to play a weak team against southampton now (NT) -- me, Wednesday, March 04, 06:33:41pm (host86-151-207-147.range86-151.btcentralplus.com/86.151.207.147)
- Of all the managers Marco has faced in his career he's faced Nuno the 4th most (11 times) winning an average of 1.73 points per game, compared to a Premier League average of 1.3 points per game. I have a feeling Marco knows very well what to expect from Nuno's team and how best to counter it. They will sit deep and try to hit us on the break. He's got all the pace and power we have in the back and a midfield full of passing and ability to move in tight spaces. I like it! (NT) -- eganonoa, Wednesday, March 04, 06:35:44pm (cable-146-255-156-96.dynamic.telemach.ba/146.255.156.96)
- Just Marco doing his bit to get Spurs relegated. Same again next up for Forest.. (NT) -- TT, Wednesday, March 04, 08:21:24pm (NoHost/96.93.86.134)
- Brentford game -- FB2, Wednesday, March 04, 03:45:20pm (cpc69057-oxfd26-2-0-cust742.4-3.cable.virginm.net/82.6.2.231)
Now 12.30 on TNT 🤦
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- Anyone know a Brighton pub that'll be showing Fulham v West Ham this evening? -- MOD, Wednesday, March 04, 03:02:27pm (NoHost/193.9.29.84)
Ta.
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- Brentford are set to offload up to five players in the summer, including 23-year-old Portugal midfielder Fabio Carvalho. -- Freddy Toast, Wednesday, March 04, 01:55:18pm (NoHost/80.194.247.18)
Brentford are set to offload up to five players in the summer, including 23-year-old Portugal midfielder Fabio Carvalho. (The I - subscription required)
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- No surprise there. He's not premier League quality. Just another very good championship player. (NT) -- Samuel, Wednesday, March 04, 02:55:00pm (NoHost/90.253.228.158)
- I think he could have absolutely been premier league quality, but decided to move from a club where he would have played a lot of games, and has ended up playing 38 premier league games in the subsequent 4, crucial years of his development. Which, ironically is pretty much exactly what we all said would happen. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Wednesday, March 04, 02:59:27pm (NoHost/81.79.78.26)
- Total rubbish (NT) -- GA, Wednesday, March 04, 03:07:08pm (ool-18b90125.dyn.optonline.net/24.185.1.37)
- This was the consensus opinion on Harry Wilson two years ago. (NT) -- HE, Wednesday, March 04, 03:11:14pm (lewi-28-b2-v4wan-166893-cust665.vm4.cable.virginm.net/86.16.2.154)
- Do you never get tired of talking rubbish.. (NT) -- HemelRog, Wednesday, March 04, 03:36:24pm (host81-129-180-49.range81-129.btcentralplus.com/81.129.180.49)
- Hmmm, same as Muniz with his ONE "purple patch" last season, YOUR crap hypothesis based on totally false criteria, which, in your own words "I'm pleased I was repetitive so you can't deny I was right." Proves what a fool you are! 8 goals in 8 games and EPL player of the month the season before doesn't count. You are not an FFC fan. (NT) -- Still no response?, Wednesday, March 04, 04:45:54pm (customer.vpls.net/107.6.254.54)
- I simply wouldn’t buy a player from Silva. How many go elsewhere and improve or even maintain the levels he gets from them. (NT) -- ASPT, Wednesday, March 04, 04:42:34pm (NoHost/1.146.91.83)
- Wolves to avoid Relegation 25-1 -- View from the Riverside, Wednesday, March 04, 09:42:09am (static-84-9-58-207.vodafonexdsl.co.uk/84.9.58.207)
Wolves have won their last two games and have the following games to play - Brentford (a) West Ham (a) Leeds (a) Spurs (h) Sunderland (h) Brighton (a) us (a) then close with Burnley (a).. not many challenging games there considering they just beat Liverpool. 25-1 at the bookies .. Worth a tenner?
11 points adrift with 24 points to play for. I think Spurs will drop as they have 2 points from 18 and Tudor is clueless. West Ham are coming into form - one loss in last 4 and will be tough tonight
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- congrats -- Greenpole, Wednesday, March 04, 07:06:10am (82-132-232-148.dab.02.net/82.132.232.148)
Wow what a season our cousins NEC Nijmegen are having! 4th and through to the cup final. Hopefully we meet them in Europe next year!
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- Curry houses near the Cottage -- Kenny, Tuesday, March 03, 05:32:58pm (NoHost/2.219.214.99)
Does anyone know of a decent curry house in the vicinity of the Cottage?
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- Potli on King Street is best but maybe a bit far to walk (NT) -- Tala, Tuesday, March 03, 06:26:29pm (NoHost/104.28.42.125)
- try Kishmish on Greyhound Rd me Hammersmith (NT) -- bs, Tuesday, March 03, 08:03:44pm (82-132-217-160.dab.02.net/82.132.217.160)
- The Ottoman - (Turkish not Curry) on Fulham Palace Road is an excellent Turkish kebab house. Been eating there for at least 20 years and three sets of managers. (NT) -- red kev, Tuesday, March 03, 10:32:05pm (NoHost/206.245.206.124)
- Pure, Fulham High Street (NT) -- Juan, Tuesday, March 03, 11:38:27pm (NoHost/94.11.160.10)
- Re: Curry houses near the Cottage (NT) -- Kishmish is excellent, Wednesday, March 04, 02:24:18am (host-2-102-164-149.as13285.net/2.102.164.149)
- I would have said Palace on Fulham Palace road but now taken over by Kissmish on greyhound road (NT) -- Julian Hales, Wednesday, March 04, 07:19:15am (NoHost/165.225.80.211)
- And yet there are still people who insist multiculturalism isn't one of Britain's greatest strengths. Someone asks for a curry house near the Cottage and within minutes half a dozen knowledgeable recommendations appear. That's the reality of a modern, diverse country: richer choices, better food, more culture. Funny how quickly the evidence presents itself. (NT) -- Lib Hen (He / Him) [GMT] (😷💉🏳🌈✊🏿🌍), Wednesday, March 04, 12:19:38pm (NoHost/185.174.159.122)
- Fulham have probably scored the two best goals seen anywhere this season, but some things never change... -- Rupert, Tuesday, March 03, 02:45:49pm (97e45270.skybroadband.com/151.228.82.112)
Can you imagine if one of the media darlings had scored THAT goal on Sunday... we would not have heard the last of it. Yet MoD virtually completely ignored its brilliance and we have seen little in the written press, apart from the wonderful article in The Athletic. As it states, occasionally you witness something absolutely unique, even in football. Come the season's I will be struggling, Reedy or Alex, each utterly unforgettable ... and who knows, we may even have another contender by then, although that really would be ridiculous.
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- The Premier League's x page has put up a montage of half a dozen goals today, with the description 'no one scores goals like Fulham FC' https://x.com/premierleague/status/2028805085132657026?s=20 (NT) -- Same Old Story, Tuesday, March 03, 03:21:53pm (85-115-50-2.mailcontrol.com/85.115.50.2)
- Personally I think that Wilson's v Palace was just about the best goal you'll ever see. Movement, one touch, the finish quite literally unstoppable. Reed's, great as it was, could have ended up anywhere and I can't help but feel that a bigger keeper may have kept Iwobi's out. Still, we do score some crackers.... (NT) -- Jim© The Devon IP, Tuesday, March 03, 03:27:08pm (62-64-192-58.virtual1.co.uk/62.64.192.58)
- Don't think I've ever seen a goal like Iwobi's or Wilson's before, in over 60 years of watching professional football. (NT) -- SCA, Tuesday, March 03, 04:43:48pm (NoHost/90.196.13.114)
- Brilliant goal, but I think the best goal I have ever seen Fulham score was also against Palace, Hatjim Kasami's. (NT) -- GTS, Tuesday, March 03, 05:10:44pm (ip-217-65-134-12.ptr.icomera.net/217.65.134.12)
- I love the Wilson goal. Just the sheer fluidity of the whole team made it truly beautiful. It wins out over the Iwobi one because that was fractionally less impressive in that interplay. But otherwise, both beat out Reed's for pure quality. For drama, Reed's cannot be beat. (NT) -- eganonoa, Tuesday, March 03, 06:24:12pm (NoHost/195.222.49.31)
- Have you forgotton the goal Bergkamp scored against Newcastle or most of the goals Le Tissier scored for Southampton. I love both Wilson's and Iwobi's goals. Both incredible technique and thinking, but no better than Bergkamp's goal which I still can't really work out how he decided to move in that way and control the ball in that way.. (NT) -- Mr Kurkuruza, Tuesday, March 03, 06:37:37pm (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
- You do realise Vicario is over 6'4" ? (NT) -- He's not Pickford!, Wednesday, March 04, 08:15:11am (NoHost/213.207.130.44)
- Not sure we have ever been treated to so many stunning goals. (NT) -- HemelRog, Tuesday, March 03, 03:30:38pm (NoHost/31.94.74.144)
- Wilson's goal v Palace was far better than either of them. The amount of great goals we've scored this season is off the chart (NT) -- SW, Tuesday, March 03, 04:21:54pm (cos2-04-b2-v4wan-171525-cust1783.vm10.cable.virginm.net/82.10.46.248)
- Its concerning to have to rely on that type of goal to get results when we miss so many easier chances every week (NT) -- Waterboy, Tuesday, March 03, 04:37:16pm (NoHost/90.242.53.3)
- H’s goal v Palace was a thing of beauty. Nine outfield players involved in a seamless build up, which opened up Palace like a tin of sardines. And on the end of this mesmerising interchange of passes was Harry Wilson, with a deft flick with the outside of his trusty left. Classic team goal…..you don’t need a sledge hammer to crack a nut. (NT) -- Bad Boy, Tuesday, March 03, 07:22:29pm (NoHost/2.126.58.251)
- I always factor in importance too - I know I shouldn't but I do. Harrison's was massive, Alex's equally so if not more in that we won rather than drew. For all H's briliance in that moment we were Var-ed in that game. (NT) -- Rupert, Wednesday, March 04, 08:53:07am (97e45270.skybroadband.com/151.228.82.112)
- Referees -- Observer, Tuesday, March 03, 02:24:18pm (NoHost/90.202.14.192)
Has the Spurs manager been charged yet for his comments about the ref after Sunday's game?
Marco would have been banned for life by now for similar remarks.
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- Yes, he overstepped the mark, be interesting to see what happens, the referee was good, overall, the surprising thing was he did not have the big club bias which is what Spurs were obviously so angry about. Ironically, their biggest gripe should be the similarity between the Man U goal given against us and the Spurs goal ruled out against Arsenal, both two handed shoves. Raul incident was nothing like that. In fairness, Igor did admit we were the far superior side. (NT) -- Rupert, Tuesday, March 03, 02:35:53pm (97e45270.skybroadband.com/151.228.82.112)
- Ticket available for tomorrow night as can't make it. £20. Leave message if interested. -- JW, Tuesday, March 03, 11:56:59am (82-132-238-177.dab.02.net/82.132.238.177)
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- Traore told to stay out of the gym... thought he'd been looking a bit muscle bound over the last year or so. -- Straw Clutchers Anonymous, Tuesday, March 03, 09:59:27am (NoHost/90.196.13.114)
“I’ve told him to stay out of the gym. It’s enough weight that he carries.”
Head coach Nuno Espirito Santo says Adama Traore has been banned from lifting weights at West Ham's training ground. #WHUFC
<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="https://nytimes.com/athletic/7081420/2026/03/02/adama-traore-muscles-weights-west-ham/">https://nytimes.com/athletic/7081420/2026/03/02/adama-traore-muscles-weights-west-ham/</a>
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- I said the same a few weeks back. There's also a vid of him training with an influencer at our gym- doing a pull up with a 50kg weight. Insane, but also overall for football. He's looked less like the gym that blitzed Kyle Walker and kind of waddles. (NT) -- HE, Tuesday, March 03, 12:09:01pm (lewi-28-b2-v4wan-166893-cust665.vm4.cable.virginm.net/86.16.2.154)
- He was definitely looking even bigger this year. Marco often mentioned how Adama would need recovery after a lung-busting run leading to suspect decision-making in the moment. And being that much of a beefcake can't help, even if it does make him more explosive. If it did help, we'd probably see many more of his physique in football as we do in rugby and American football. But we don't. (NT) -- eganonoa, Tuesday, March 03, 12:12:52pm (NoHost/195.222.49.31)
- I think we did well to get a couple of mill for him to be honest. How do you go about shedding that excess muscle without detriment to the rest of the body? The adrenalin rush from training in the gym can be addictive and I wonder if that's the case with Traore. As a side topic, being tattooed is also addictive which is why we see so many players with hideously tattooed bodies IMO. (NT) -- SCA, Tuesday, March 03, 01:28:49pm (NoHost/90.196.13.114)
- I suspect he'll continue to train with weights at home. Bodybuilding is often an addictive pursuit, moreso when an individual is effectively defined by their physique. (NT) -- Samuel, Tuesday, March 03, 02:01:36pm (NoHost/90.250.249.97)
- it’s good to know that I should also stay out of the gym now I’ve got bigger. (NT) -- bs, Tuesday, March 03, 03:37:59pm (NoHost/2.126.191.47)
- Does that mean he can't carry the can? (NT) -- Harry., Tuesday, March 03, 08:42:25pm (54.249.125.91.dyn.plus.net/91.125.249.54)
- Where are they now? -- dd, Monday, March 02, 08:33:58pm (NoHost/90.204.91.94)
Matt Targett has scored two goals for Middlesboro in the first 26 mins of their away match at Birmingham this evening...
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- Marco's statement about Diop versus his action -- eganonoa, Monday, March 02, 05:14:44pm (cable-146-255-156-96.dynamic.telemach.ba/146.255.156.96)
I have to say, I just don't understand how Diop's treated. He comes in and almost always does a good job whenever Andersen's out. Almost always our best defender, in terms of defensive output (not with the ball). But then he immediately loses his position whenever Andersen is back, almost as if there is no true competition and nothing he can do about it. And when he loses his position it's not just in the 11, it's in the match day squad, with Cuenca winning out almost every time on the bench. And yet, here's what Marco just said about him:
"I don't like to go for individual things, but it's important to mention Issa Diop. He knows he was not supposed to start the game. He was at home last night. He was not even at the hotel with us. He’s a good professional, he came this morning to join ourselves after the illness of Joa, and he performed in this way. It was our decision to start with him, and what a performance from him. Leadership, the focus and the commitment he had in every moment to lead our backline, was crucial from himself. And I have to really to congratulate him for the performance. I'm very pleased, because he deserves all the credit. Sometimes not always involved in all the moments, [but] every time we need him and to use him, he responds very well. And always, I know that tomorrow, if he plays or not this afternoon, he’s going to be the first one to arrive at the training ground. He’s going to be the first one to push the others to go, always a top professional, very important for ourselves."
www.fulhamfc.com/news/2026/march/01/marco-praise-for-diop/
If this is the case, and he is such a good, reliable pro and a leader, how is it he's never in a position to fight for his place? Yes, he's a worse passer of the ball than Andersen. But he's clearly a better defender and Andersen has looked very vulnerable against pacey and powerful forwards since he came back to us (from that drubbing by Cunha onwards). And we've got good passers on the other side of central defense in Cuenca and Bassey. So it would be logical to me to mix and match a bit depending on opponent.
I don't really associate Marco with playing favourites like this. He's shown he can drop the main guys, like this year King in favour of ESR, Sess right now keeping Robinson out. But Andersen just seems totally and utterly undroppable. I don't understand it.
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- A couple of months ago I suggested that Diop was our best center back and was (by some) aggressively criticised for that opinion. I'm personally not that convinced by Andersen and feel he's only a nailed on starter due to contractual obligations and justification if an excessive salary. I'd be more than happy to see him sold off and replaced this summer. (NT) -- Samuel, Monday, March 02, 05:23:28pm (NoHost/83.106.75.64)
- I doubt you were truly agressively criticised for that opinion. I've been banging that drum for a couple of years yet, and while people have disagreed, it's never caused a major outcry. You probably just got the troll or alanos on your back, as per their wont. (NT) -- eganonoa, Monday, March 02, 05:32:32pm (cable-146-255-156-96.dynamic.telemach.ba/146.255.156.96)
- There were also a couple of other regular contributor's to the board who responded with gratuitous and mean spirited remarks, although they will remain nameless, as I don't entertain conflict, particularly with cowards. You shouldn't say anything online you can't, or are not prepared to say to someone in person. (NT) -- Samuel, Monday, March 02, 05:41:18pm (NoHost/83.106.75.64)
- Eganonoa and Henri started on here when the Saudis came in for Mitro , saying he was worth no more than £25m . When Muniz went on his goal scoring run they became VERY interested in him . Eganonoa and Samuel argue with one another sometimes . But despite that Samuel is an offshoot of Eganonoa , made to vent opinions he does not want to say himself , like Muniz is rubbish and should be got rid of asap . (NT) -- alanos, Monday, March 02, 05:42:45pm (82-132-213-205.dab.02.net/82.132.213.205)
- Quelle surprise!!! Samuel crawls back under his stone again! (NT) -- Or disappears up his own crack, maybe?, Monday, March 02, 10:09:44pm (customer.vpls.net/107.6.254.54)
- Samuel CONTINUES to base his "Championship level" assertation against Muniz on the fact that he had 1 "purple patch" LAST season. As a self-proclaimed fan of 4 decades, perhaps he should go and check Rodrigo's stats for the 2nd half of the season BEFORE last and then apologise to real FFC fans. (NT) -- I do not believe he is even an FFC fan., Monday, March 02, 10:34:20pm (customer.vpls.net/107.6.254.139)
- Right now I’d say Diop should be un-droppable . As you say a better Defender than Andersen but without the latter’s range of passing . But factor in cutting out errors and we have a very capable right-sided CH . Can’t imagine Joa will be under consideration for tomorrow for which injuries /fitness permitting , I would name an unchanged starting 11 (NT) -- Mickey, Monday, March 02, 05:24:42pm (82-132-233-146.dab.02.net/82.132.233.146)
- I don't think the back four should be tinkered with unnecessarily. We're in the very fortunate position of having a reserve back four very nearly as good as the first choice with arguments in favour of each of the 8 players but only four can start. Marco is, IMO, neither right nor wrong to prefer Andersen but the choice has to be made. (NT) -- The Man With No Name, Monday, March 02, 05:24:55pm (host81-141-119-135.range81-141.btcentralplus.com/81.141.119.135)
- My inferred solution to the mystery... Our 6th highest earner (per Capology) Issa was expected to leave last summer in understandable pursuit of more playing time. A right-footed Cuenca equivalent would then have been sought for Cuenca-type wages. Meanwhile, in exchange for probably outstaying his welcome with the bean-counters, he is living up to his wage when called upon. All good from a purely spectator, as opposed to club governance, point of view. But I think that is what it is about. (NT) -- b+w g., Monday, March 02, 05:47:08pm (host81-159-15-87.range81-159.btcentralplus.com/81.159.15.87)
- Irrespective of Andersen’s absence on Sunday, I reckon Diop will start on merit against his old club on Wednesday. (NT) -- Bad Boy, Monday, March 02, 05:47:15pm (NoHost/2.126.58.251)
- Diop should DEFINITELY keep his place. Andersen will get torn apart by Summerville. (NT) -- IMHO, Monday, March 02, 11:04:46pm (unn-212-102-63-89.cdn77.com/212.102.63.89)
- I heard yesterday that he was given special permission by the Club because he is currently fasting. (NT) -- Ted White, Tuesday, March 03, 11:19:54am (host86-191-229-228.range86-191.btcentralplus.com/86.191.229.228)
- Iwobi @ 8 -- eganonoa, Monday, March 02, 08:54:21am (NoHost/217.75.196.3)
Yesterday seemed like the day Iwobi firmly solidified his place as our No. 8. I thought Sunderland was his best go at the position. And yesterday he took it a step further and was everywhere, both defensively and on the ball.
Two tackles, one interception, and one blocked shot made him statistically our most defensively productive non-defender and beyond the stats he was noticeably always covering.
On the ball he was excellent. Had more passes than everyone bar Diop, with an 86% success rate, four key passes, five out of five long balls, and didn't surrender the ball when he was on it. He had a surprisingly large amount of freedom given Spurs had both Palhinha and Gallagher playing. Partly that's probably because they were quite rubbish, but also partly because he really can operate in tight spaces, which really helped open them up through the middle.
I also thought his relationship with Berge was very good. While Berge is still the No. 6 and asked to keep it simple, it seemed to me that he got forward a bit more than usual because he and Iwobi combined well to find space for each other.
All-in-all when you add in the goal, he was the clear man of the match yesterday and very much looked like a long-term solution at No. 8
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- Agree with everything you say apart from MOTM. That was big Issa (NT) -- Ibizaaaaaaa, Monday, March 02, 09:11:30am (NoHost/161.12.62.42)
Re: Iwobi @ 8//// Some TWAT said as much already yesterday (eyes on from KL)/// butt because some 'so called' troll hunter DIDNT like our remark > that Muniz and Kinga were in a major slump in form.. mods cancelled this itk comment (NT) -- IWOBI back to POTY form, Monday, March 02, 09:12:35am (ns5024469.ip-148-113-168.net/148.113.168.111)
- Diop is my 2nd choice. It was so good to have a truly excellent defender in the role. His positioning and some of those tackles were phenomenal. And i wonder if his poorer passing led to Iwobi being on the ball a bit more vs everything going through Andersen? He doesn't win my MOTM vote because I thought he dropped off a little in the 2nd half once they made their subs, with that one jump into midfield failing and leading to an opportunity for them. Otherwise, a thoroughly impressive performance (NT) -- eganonoa, Monday, March 02, 09:41:25am (NoHost/217.75.196.3)
- Bassey really won his duels against Mauni early, Diop too in the few instances he switched. (NT) -- HE, Monday, March 02, 09:47:04am (lewi-28-b2-v4wan-166893-cust665.vm4.cable.virginm.net/86.16.2.154)
- I like Diop he is a whole hearted and good player, it is just I always feel there is at least one mistake a game in him, maybe it is impetuosity, but that charge into midfield and missed challenge towards the end of the game almost cost us...the one where their bloke hit the side netting from close range I mean. (NT) -- GTS, Monday, March 02, 10:09:12am (24.206.100.60.netskope-rdns.com/24.206.100.60)
- Just as a matter of interest,when did No.6s become defensive midfielders ?? Aren't 5s & 6s Centre halves, with midfielders being 4,7,8 & 11 ? (NT) -- GTS, Monday, March 02, 09:42:02am (24.206.100.60.netskope-rdns.com/24.206.100.60)
- Back in the day players were numbered in the 2-3-5 formation. In about 1970 we switched to 4-2-4 and I remember an away game at Sheffield United where two elderly United fans couldn't understand why our left back was playing CH and a CH playing LB. They spent the whole match trying to make sense of it. (NT) -- The Man With No Name, Monday, March 02, 09:53:53am (host81-141-119-135.range81-141.btcentralplus.com/81.141.119.135)
- When all lineups were written as 2-3-5 you used to have the two fullbacks as numbers 2 and 3. The three half-backs as 4-5-6. The five forwards as 7-8-9-10-11. Then the No. 5 became the centre back in a W-M leaving 4 & 6 as half backs. I'm not sure there was a global standard after that about which of 4/6 became the 2nd CB and which remained a half-back/DM. I've always thought of both 4&6 being for both CB or DM without a standard, though now it does seem 6=DM. Some links inside -- eganonoa, Monday, March 02, 09:57:27am (NoHost/217.75.196.3)
- I know and understand what you are saying, just seems odd how 6 ended up as a defensive MF....not sure Ernie Howe etc would cut it as modern day No.6s !!! (NT) -- GTS, Monday, March 02, 10:05:43am (24.206.100.60.netskope-rdns.com/24.206.100.60)
- I'd bet it has something to do with the modern archetypes in the position wearing No. 6 like Xavi, Makelelle. As the role has evolved beyond the traditional idea of a shield, the term "defensive midfielder" doesn't really explain it. Also there aren't many positions on the pitch that get discussed using a number. No. 9, yes. Then 6-8-10. Now that teams almost always play with three in the middle, 6-8-10 has become a useful shorthand for what are often quite fluid roles. (NT) -- eganonoa, Monday, March 02, 10:27:45am (NoHost/217.75.196.3)
- I'm with you GTS. The likes of Glenn Thomas, Gavin Nebbeling and Terry Angus didn't strike me as particularly good options for defensive midfield really. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Monday, March 02, 10:53:47am (NoHost/81.79.78.26)
- I think that was Berge's best game for us too. Nice to have such a dilemma for MotM. Some of the one-touch give and go's were superb. Really NEED Silva to stay...!!! (NT) -- Fkev, Monday, March 02, 10:06:17am (ec2-3-248-64-94.eu-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com/3.248.64.94)
- We really were able to carve them up despite Gallagher, Bissouma and Palhinha in the middle. Them paying 442 didn't help. But I think we really saw the benefit of having a team full of technicians who can dance or pass around pressure. Berge, Iwobi, Bobby, ESR, Wilson all have serious skills in that regard. And then add in the crazy movement of Raul (going backwards) and Sess (going forwards) and they were all at sea. Doubt it always works but it was a thing to behind that first 60 minutes. (NT) -- eganonoa, Monday, March 02, 10:47:31am (NoHost/217.75.196.3)
- Yes, we really were excellent, before letting them back into the game due to some poor finishing (standard!) Gallagher - one of those players I've never seen have a good game. Ever. For anyone. Wonder how much he's on a week...... (NT) -- Fkev, Monday, March 02, 11:50:11am (ec2-3-248-64-94.eu-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com/3.248.64.94)
- Not my favourite player but what absolute rubbish.Capped for England at just about every level.Those selectors can’t have a clue unlike you.Wow. (NT) -- No ten Rog, Monday, March 02, 12:20:23pm (host81-129-180-43.range81-129.btcentralplus.com/81.129.180.43)
- Bit harsh. I've also never seen him play particularly well. Clearly he must have something about him given he's only played for big clubs and internationally. But if he's anything more than a slightly better version of Harrison Reed, I've not seen it. How much distance is there realistically between him and Sasa Lukic, for instance? (NT) -- eganonoa, Monday, March 02, 12:25:18pm (cable-146-255-156-96.dynamic.telemach.ba/146.255.156.96)
- Not harsh in the slightest.People who know a lot more about the game than us have obviously seen something.I have already stated he is not one of my favourite players though. (NT) -- HemelRog, Monday, March 02, 12:39:04pm (host81-129-180-43.range81-129.btcentralplus.com/81.129.180.43)
- Sometimes people 'who know a lot more about the game than us' make mistakes or get thins wrong. Junior Lewis played in the premier league, ffs. He could barely kick a ball. (NT) -- Same old Story, Monday, March 02, 12:43:20pm (NoHost/81.79.78.26)
- Ha ha! And on that note, Carlton Palmer got about as many caps for England as Gallagher has! I don't doubt he's a decent premier league calibre player, but reportedly being paid £200k per week and considered a marquee signing by Spurs. I'm not seeing it. (NT) -- eganonoa, Monday, March 02, 12:52:05pm (cable-146-255-156-96.dynamic.telemach.ba/146.255.156.96)
- Yes precisely. Can only judge by what ive seen, and like you, and Kev, i've never seen the fuss. He's like a labrador puppy. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Monday, March 02, 12:57:10pm (NoHost/81.79.78.26)
- Twenty two caps not one.The ultimate complement being compared to a Labrador pup anyway. (NT) -- HemelRog, Monday, March 02, 01:38:04pm (host81-129-180-43.range81-129.btcentralplus.com/81.129.180.43)
- Gallagher works his socks off, will get into the box and sniff out goals if allowed to, won palace player of season playing advanced, as a late arriver in the box who’s brilliant at pressing, similar to Perreira. Played plenty for Madrid, Chelsea & England, you don’t do that for that many managers if you’re average. However technically limited and always believed he’d end up as upper mid prem, too many limitations to be a truly top midfielder. (NT) -- Henry1879, Monday, March 02, 07:54:57pm (cpc113812-lea23-2-0-cust213.6-3.cable.virginm.net/86.26.216.214)
- I thought he played really well whilst at Palace, but whenever I’ve watched him since then has looked pretty ordinary. (NT) -- Bexhill Beast, Monday, March 02, 01:59:28pm (host86-142-67-240.range86-142.btcentralplus.com/86.142.67.240)
- Iwobi is quality+attitude+versatility. His contract expires in summer '28, so would be excellent to see it extended soon. Low risk in making it another long one, setting him up as TC's successor.. (NT) -- b+w g., Monday, March 02, 11:29:48am (NoHost/81.159.15.87)
- You never know, we could still have Cairney kicking around James Milner style then. What a cameo he made yesterday (that one dodgy pass that led to an opportunity for them aside). But irrespective, Iwobi is clearly the squad captain in waiting, if not the true social leader of the team already. And he's just the sort of player you can imagine aging very well. (NT) -- eganonoa, Monday, March 02, 11:40:15am (NoHost/217.75.196.3)
- Five years from the end of this season, he'll just have turned 35. How many Prem seasons did Milner have left at that age? And as with Milner, no calibre- or attitude- related possibility of finding ourselves without suitors for him if ever we (improbably) needed rid. (NT) -- b+w g., Monday, March 02, 11:43:15am (host81-159-15-87.range81-159.btcentralplus.com/81.159.15.87)
- Whilst it always takes 2 to tango and we were really good at times, I thought spurs were atrocious. Couldn’t believe how much space we could find in between their defence and midfield, constantly getting at their back 4 and Raul was an absolutely nuisance, gave their CBs a torrid time with his movement. First time I’ve felt spurs really could go down, gray LB & Gallagher LM in a 4-4-2 is utterly bizarre. Thought TC really helped, kept a lid on any momentum they started to build. (NT) -- Henry1879, Monday, March 02, 11:45:05am (cpc113812-lea23-2-0-cust213.6-3.cable.virginm.net/86.26.216.214)