- That 2nd killer goal. 3 Fulham players trotting back (Kevin, Iwobi and maybe Chuckuewesi) allowing Bournemouth to advance unchallenged. Lost us the game that did. -- Mr Kurkuruza, Friday, October 03, 11:56:13pm (NoHost/51.52.26.50)
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- Silva Record, Watford, Hull and Fulham, absolutely won nothing! His inconsistency is consistent, time to move on, before he does! -- Fulham Russ, Friday, October 03, 11:17:13pm (NoHost/90.217.14.108)
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having already ~(righly or wrongly) passed /miised out on Mourino/Nunos/Ange....... the time NOW isnt to sack A compete Manager. Its. Afcon year and then the WC. No good option is available RIGHT now... it'll be after the Afcon and WC. I.e seasons end!......... so hope Marco turns over a new leaf and stopped being out coached at HT and with his late subs...... A PL Fulham in 2026 will / could lead to owners recieving offers and/or A Top Coach looking for a new PL challenge! (NT) -- ten hag though right now perhaps?, Friday, October 03, 11:25:37pm (ns3065296.ip-51-77-20.eu/51.77.20.95)
- Re: Silva Record, Watford, Hull and Fulham, absolutely won nothing! His inconsistency is consistent, time to move on, before he does! -- spin, Friday, October 03, 11:56:40pm (host-81-190-244-84.dynamic.mm.pl/81.190.244.84)
- Yes, because clubs that never ever win trophies is a good baromoter. Joker! (NT) -- TVFORCHILDREN, Saturday, October 04, 02:05:10am (32.25.35.89.baremetal.zare.com/89.35.25.32)
- Tbf they had the quality and the energy -- Mickey, Friday, October 03, 11:03:39pm (host86-159-177-162.range86-159.btcentralplus.com/86.159.177.162)
Semenyo’s first goal , I’m pretty sure was the type of thing we hoped to
see from Kevin ; may still happen of course . Kluivert’s goal , when did you last see one of our players do something like that , run with the ball , shimmy and blast home from 25 yards . In both cases we should’ve done better , but had roles been reversed would we have had the ability to punish them in the same way ? Maybe they just didn’t make any/many mistakes . Striker situation apart , tonight proved yet again that even with 4 key departures , they Still have imho a better Squad than us : superlative recruitment by them
. Question to perhaps consider though is to what extent is the way we play restricting our effectiveness ? Much as I want to believe it does , I just cannot see this Team playing the kind of expansive , high intensity pressing game that was on display from our opponents tonight and seemingly thus far this season . Blame Silva by all means , but he just doesn’t have sufficient game changing quality or energy in this squad.
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- Semenyo's on another planet, but we do have the game changing quality and energy. That's precisely what Marco has had us pay 100m for in ESR, Kevin and Chuckwaeze and precisely what we saw today. Chuckwaeze's incredible speed of thought in such a tight space combined with Sess to quite literally change the game. It's what happened after that that we should be worried about. And that's not about not having game-changing pieces. It's about an inability to close out the game for whatever reason. (NT) -- eganonoa, Friday, October 03, 11:10:47pm (cable-146-255-156-96.dynamic.telemach.ba/146.255.156.96)
- Failure to address our key and obvious weaknesses in the transfer market must surely be on Silva too? Spending upto €40 million on a winger that no one else seemed to be that interested in when our squad was toothless up front and soft in the middle demands enquiry. We didn't need wingers; we needed a starting striker and combative box to box midfielder. I really like Silva, but ESR, Kevin and refusal to field our new striker when theres no other options needs explaining. (NT) -- Samuel, Friday, October 03, 11:13:47pm (NoHost/83.106.84.93)
- Winning -- Eerwah, Friday, October 03, 10:56:22pm (NoHost/1.146.33.246)
Once Don Revie’s Leeds went in front, they parked the bus and collected the points. Just saying!!
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- Elephant in the room 🐘 -- Thofokoz, Friday, October 03, 10:45:54pm (82-132-232-134.dab.02.net/82.132.232.134)
Umm...Kevin looks a bit poo poo.
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- He'll turn out amazing. But it'll happen in Silva time. As I said when we signed him, he'll be in place as a regular, successful starter only as early as January and not sooner. We see this so frequently with Marco we just have to recognize it and submit to his process. (NT) -- eganonoa, Friday, October 03, 10:53:03pm (cable-146-255-156-96.dynamic.telemach.ba/146.255.156.96)
- Re: Elephant in the room 🐘: He was poor tonight but let's not write him off just yet. Shows the manager is making the right decision in not starting him yet. (NT) -- Alboy, Friday, October 03, 10:55:48pm (host5-80-175-253.range5-80.btcentralplus.com/5.80.175.253)
- Very early days but you always have to side with caution when paying up to €40 million for a player in a weak league with no competitive credibility to speak of and with very few suitors. Muniz is similar: only Atlanta and Leeds showed any interest despite all the hype. ESR is another example, wasn't Palace the only other rumored club interested in him? We seem to be an easy touch in the transfer market. (NT) -- Samuel, Friday, October 03, 11:04:00pm (NoHost/83.106.84.93)
- He's got a touch like a traction engine! (NT) -- Alan Partridge, Friday, October 03, 11:18:08pm (82-132-232-20.dab.02.net/82.132.232.20)
- Points dropped from winning positions -- eganonoa, Friday, October 03, 10:21:57pm (cable-146-255-156-96.dynamic.telemach.ba/146.255.156.96)
We dropped the most points from winning positions last season with 17. Entering this match we were in the "lead" on that already and will have cemented our place at the top of the table now.
It is a persistent problem, much like goals conceded in the 10 minutes after half-time, which we have also consistently ranked amongst the worst and are also once again this season (albeit not the issue today).
This is not about this summer. There is much more to it than that.
Still, just enough to be somewhat encouraged by what we have. Sess is just fantastic and is absolutely a left-back, and a goal scoring one. We still have ridiculous CB depth, as Diop proved today. Berge and Cairney look a pretty nicely complimentary pairing. Iwobi is still good. King very exciting. Chuckwueze a wild card, though he and Kevin clearly need more Silva time to be fully introduced. But we just seem a bit unable at present to put the pieces together and to react when the opposing managers make changes.
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- Re: Points dropped from winning positions: Yes but we seem to have dreadful luck at the .moments Semegno got lucky and a wonder strike beat us. Lots of effort today considering the injuries. Thought chukweze and Cairney were excellent. Should have defended better for both goals . Bournemouth not great wish we had their luck! (NT) -- Alboy, Friday, October 03, 10:26:45pm (host5-80-175-253.range5-80.btcentralplus.com/5.80.175.253)
- So if we had scored the goals Bournemouth did tonight, would you have called them lucky. (NT) -- Leggers, Friday, October 03, 10:30:54pm (NoHost/90.221.114.109)
- When something is happening again and again, across multiple seasons, all of those individual instances of "luck" start looking a lot less like luck and a lot more like a systemic problem. I know that's hard for you to see because of the colour of your football specs but if you go back and think "how many times did I suggest it was just bad luck when we dropped points from a winning positions these last 18 months" you might start to see it. (NT) -- eganonoa, Friday, October 03, 10:31:45pm (cable-146-255-156-96.dynamic.telemach.ba/146.255.156.96)
- Luck. Had we scored those they would be wonder goals. We love Fulham but sometimes you have to accept our failures (NT) -- CB, Friday, October 03, 10:37:14pm (213-18-174-254.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.174.254)
- Won't disagree but I think the squad quietly suffers from a confidence problem. We cannot hold leads as you point out. I think this comes from too much false confidence when we do score, because we are thin on goals, and then we let down from the confidence that comes from a lack of full belief. Marco may have started to lose the confidence of the players. (NT) -- RR, Friday, October 03, 10:28:11pm (NoHost/104.220.143.92)
- Goals breed confidence, plus so many unfortunate decisions against us. Plus we have lost two strikers and Tete. He's is an excellent Manager we will come good. (NT) -- Alboy, Friday, October 03, 10:33:47pm (host5-80-175-253.range5-80.btcentralplus.com/5.80.175.253)
- There's something in that. Not sure it's Marco losing confidence of the players. Doubt that. But there is something. Whether it's because we have older players, or because Marco struggles to adapt to in-game situations when the opposing manager makes changes, or because our players are a bit too regimented and not given enough license to go on and score again, or something else, I just don't know. But I am sure it isn't just because of one summer transfer window. (NT) -- eganonoa, Friday, October 03, 10:37:19pm (cable-146-255-156-96.dynamic.telemach.ba/146.255.156.96)
- Apparently we were the only team in the PL not to concede in the last 15 minutes of games, until the commentator mentioned it and then we topped it off by conceding 3 (NT) -- MWKent, Friday, October 03, 10:31:12pm (host-80-46-1-168.as13285.net/80.46.1.168)
- We can't afford 60 million pound duds with Kevin and ESR both looking dreadful. No depth in central midfield. Arsenal and Newcastle next. -- Angry, Friday, October 03, 10:14:26pm (NoHost/109.76.117.99)
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- What an absolutely dreadful performance! -- Fulham Si, Friday, October 03, 10:10:27pm (static-80-177-78-58.vodafonexdsl.co.uk/80.177.78.58)
I get Marco didn’t want to blood the new striker but yo go ahead just to concede two goals by simple errors is dreadful. Many will drone on about the lack of striker but we lost the game as a result of poor defence not a lack of a goal. Leno shouldn’t have been beaten at his near post and Kluivert was allowed to travel quite some distance completely unchallenged. No excuses that was poor!
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- Re: What an absolutely dreadful performance!: wasn't poor at all they got very lucky tonight. (NT) -- Alboy, Friday, October 03, 10:12:07pm (host5-80-175-253.range5-80.btcentralplus.com/5.80.175.253)
- Leno wasn't beaten at his near post... (NT) -- Just sayin..., Friday, October 03, 10:15:07pm (NoHost/90.213.242.75)
- But there is a case for Silva to answer with regard to the new striker. At 2-1 down with nothing to lose, why not give the lad a chance? He's extremely talented and very tall, perfect focal point. Muniz has been largely underwhelming during his time with us but when fit continues to get selected. A purple patch last season somehow rises above nearly 4 years of obscurity. I think Silva could be the problem unfortunately. (NT) -- Samuel, Friday, October 03, 10:16:03pm (NoHost/83.106.84.93)
- Wasn't dreadful. Usual overreaction from someone who should know better. Just call yourself Si. You aren't Fulham (NT) -- Jimmyhillbillies, Friday, October 03, 10:16:28pm (33C2B525.skybroadband.com/51.194.181.37)
- The first 25 minutes was, but not the rest. (NT) -- Bexhill Beast, Friday, October 03, 10:21:54pm (host81-152-121-158.range81-152.btcentralplus.com/81.152.121.158)
- you’re right I mean why would you bring on a striker? Traore is clearly better than him! We got unlucky just like last week and the week before (NT) -- rose tinted twat, Friday, October 03, 10:23:30pm (NoHost/45.137.77.134)
- So you can’t criticise your team when they sgit the bed? I buy three season tickets and have done for 15 years and previously had two season tickets for 10 years previous, paid for countless mascot experiences, follow the home and away, add in the 6 shirts for two kids every season for 15 years don’t tell me I’m not Fulham just for telling the uncomfortable truth! (NT) -- Fulham Si, Friday, October 03, 10:23:55pm (static-80-177-78-58.vodafonexdsl.co.uk/80.177.78.58)
- Allboy their goals may have been lucky but Semenyos first goal saw him absolutely mug Castagne and beat a premier league goalie at his near post. Lover’s goal was sublime but only got the shot away because he travelled so far unchallenged. So yes a little luck but from basic lack of defending by us! (NT) -- Fulham Si, Friday, October 03, 10:17:45pm (NoHost/148.252.145.164)
- So unlucky to lose that! -- Alboy, Friday, October 03, 10:09:28pm (host5-80-175-253.range5-80.btcentralplus.com/5.80.175.253)
The moaners will come on here bitching as usual. We never deserved to lose that Semegno with a lucky goal! If that's not bad enough a wonder strike does for us cannot blame us going forward in the extra time minutes. Cairney excellent Chkweze looked very good , Kevin poor tonight. Castagne has to de better for their first goal as foes Leno. Players will be gutted tonight thought they gave everything in difficult conditions playing without a recognised striker always difficult. Bournemouth got lucky tonight.
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- Problem -- Depressed, Friday, October 03, 10:08:18pm (host-78-149-190-10.as13285.net/78.149.190.10)
Stems from the lack of players not invested in the transfer window. Decent midfield players were urgently needed as was a decent striker.The club urgently requires a director of football in place of TK.Now too late and Fulham will now suffer.
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- Silva Out for sure rumour has it he wants out end of season anyway -- Fulham Russ, Friday, October 03, 10:06:26pm (NoHost/31.94.36.45)
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- So would i after that transfer window! (NT) -- Waterboy, Friday, October 03, 10:09:35pm (NoHost/83.105.95.124)
- Re: Absolute rubbish ! (NT) -- Alboy, Friday, October 03, 10:10:45pm (host5-80-175-253.range5-80.btcentralplus.com/5.80.175.253)
- 👊💦 (NT) -- Jimmyhillbillies, Friday, October 03, 10:11:31pm (33C2B525.skybroadband.com/51.194.181.37)
- It would be a stain on his record if he lumbered us with ESR & Kevin - 2 club record signings, then walked away. I personally think it was a mistake to give him any say over recruitment after ESR, but the Khans have proved their loyalty by spending €40 million on Kevin for him. The early signs are not good for the latter but let's hope he improves. (NT) -- Samuel, Friday, October 03, 10:52:30pm (NoHost/83.106.84.93)
- Hard to see 3 worse teams than Fulham -- Beano Reader, Friday, October 03, 10:00:38pm (82-132-231-158.dab.02.net/82.132.231.158)
Player wise it should not be so bad but on the pitch. Not great is it?
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- Already at the stage where I just want this season over! Not saying we are going down, we shouldn't do but only good thing so far is the progression of King! (NT) -- Harry68, Friday, October 03, 10:04:18pm (cpc160099-nmal26-2-0-cust805.19-2.cable.virginm.net/82.18.163.38)
- Well, it's not really is it. But the bedwetters will be out in force tonight. (NT) -- Jim©, Friday, October 03, 10:04:22pm (host86-131-212-251.range86-131.btcentralplus.com/86.131.212.251)
- Name 3 worse team than us ?? We pass the ball so slowly….no fight in midfield ….injuries have weakened us ….AFCON next month…it’s not looking good …..not bedwetting just facts ….take those rose tinted FFC glasses off and you might see it (NT) -- Ffc, Friday, October 03, 10:07:17pm (97e02c8e.skybroadband.com/151.224.44.142)
- Name 3 teams who are poorer than us? (NT) -- RR, Friday, October 03, 10:09:55pm (NoHost/104.220.143.92)
- Why are you obsessed with defending silva? Fans every right to be worried about relegation, we invested poorly in the summer just like last summer he refused to play a recognised striker because we didn’t sign the oaps he wanted and he can’t control his emotions on the touchline top it off we dropped 28 points last season from winning positions and bottled Europe he doesn’t lay a glove on Roy or tigana (NT) -- silvas barmy army, Friday, October 03, 10:13:31pm (NoHost/45.137.77.134)
- We're not that bad, but don't have the cover for key positions. Poor summer recruitment made things even worse. I think we'll keep relegation at bay, but that's about it. (NT) -- Samuel, Friday, October 03, 10:05:05pm (NoHost/83.106.84.93)
- Morons do tend to overeact. (NT) -- Just Saying Rog, Friday, October 03, 10:05:47pm (5ec0f8a7.skybroadband.com/94.192.248.167)
- Re: Hard to see 3 worse teams than Fulham: my God what rubbish. (NT) -- Alboy, Friday, October 03, 10:13:55pm (host5-80-175-253.range5-80.btcentralplus.com/5.80.175.253)
- Obviously not but not looking good. We should all admit. In truth since Mitro we have relied on goals spread throughout. They had an easy time with no central target to defend (NT) -- CB, Friday, October 03, 10:16:37pm (213-18-174-254.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.174.254)
- Time for Silva to to go. Clueless. -- Jamie, Friday, October 03, 09:59:30pm (host86-160-139-126.range86-160.btcentralplus.com/86.160.139.126)
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- Is silva turning into Parker. -- Hg, Friday, October 03, 09:59:14pm (cpc141402-brnt4-2-0-cust971.4-2.cable.virginm.net/86.9.199.204)
Dreadful tactics and team selection. 5 3 2 0 iis a formation I never want to see again. And if I were Jonah I’d be on the phone to Bayern demanding that they re call me. Doesn’t play when we are winning against a fourth division team and doesn’t play when we are desperate for goals. Chukeweze looks lovely though, he should start next game. King played well and shouldn’t have come off. Leno poor for both goals. Not much positivity to take from that.
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- Thin areas of squad brutally exposed. -- WayneKerrins, Friday, October 03, 09:59:11pm (host109-145-127-110.range109-145.btcentralplus.com/109.145.127.110)
No one being wise after the event.
Unbalanced squad with 70m on subs while we have no CF and desperately thin CM apart from 8.
Teflon et Al reaping what they’ve sown.
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- Can’t keep a clean sheet midfield is a massive problem how doe you allow a player to run unopposed and get a shot off . We are in a relegation battle 💯 watching us is painful. Kevin miles and miles off it . -- Button, Friday, October 03, 09:58:39pm (nmal-23-b2-v4wan-169190-cust1261.vm24.cable.virginm.net/80.5.116.238)
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- Says a lot when Cairney is our best player on the pitch -- Ffc, Friday, October 03, 09:56:20pm (97e02c8e.skybroadband.com/151.224.44.142)
We look useless and are bang in trouble
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- Hopeless -- Depressed, Friday, October 03, 09:46:36pm (host-78-149-190-10.as13285.net/78.149.190.10)
Another defeat.Relegation on the cards
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- Another lead thrown away. Cowards -- Amgry, Friday, October 03, 09:45:49pm (NoHost/109.76.117.99)
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- There’s better on the bench. We will nick this1-0 or Marco has got it wrong playing for a point. -- CB, Friday, October 03, 09:11:58pm (213-18-174-254.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.174.254)
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- Decent performance all things considered -- eganonoa, Friday, October 03, 08:52:36pm (cable-146-255-156-96.dynamic.telemach.ba/146.255.156.96)
Cairney and Diop both making a big difference. Wilson having an absolute nightmare of a day, and could probably be replaced with ESR. But otherwise, they're all looking OK.
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- More importantly, why the shirt change? Just a ploy to sell stuff? Stick to the classic shirt (if possible). As a kid I never saw us change against Newcastle, Arsenal, even Southampton (NT) -- Andrew in Bath, Friday, October 03, 08:59:28pm (NoHost/90.210.119.115)
- Re: Decent performance all things considered: Cairney yes ,Diop a liability on the ball. Need to shoot .ore cross more believe a bit more. (NT) -- Alboy, Friday, October 03, 09:02:20pm (host5-80-175-253.range5-80.btcentralplus.com/5.80.175.253)
- A more generous assessment than I would give, but TC coming on has certainly helped & we did have a promising spell. I must be one of Harry,s biggest fans but he has been woeful tonight. (NT) -- Bexhill Beast, Friday, October 03, 09:02:48pm (host81-152-121-158.range81-152.btcentralplus.com/81.152.121.158)
- Yawn -- Icecreamconey, Friday, October 03, 08:46:39pm (cpc115212-nmal23-2-0-cust516.19-2.cable.virginm.net/81.109.70.5)
Won’t need the Horlicks, woeful game, just checking on my artificial grass growing! 🥴🥴
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- 33 mins.....Cairney making a difference. Wilson absolutely woeful.. -- GA, Friday, October 03, 08:35:37pm (ool-18b90125.dyn.optonline.net/24.185.1.37)
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- Just shows the Lukic/Berge combination doesn’t work (NT) -- Ffc, Friday, October 03, 08:40:10pm (97e02c8e.skybroadband.com/151.224.44.142)
Re: 38 mins.....Cairney making a difference. Wilson absolutely woeful.. (NT) -- still uselss when in on goal, Friday, October 03, 08:40:35pm (ns3232026.ip-37-59-18.eu/37.59.18.241)
- The ref won’t give a foul for King even if they break his leg. Laughable. (NT) -- K, Friday, October 03, 08:41:58pm (NoHost/185.192.69.215)
- Agreed. Wilson has made some terrible passes and seems slightly off his mark, in general. Cairney keeping things turning over. (NT) -- RR, Friday, October 03, 08:44:47pm (NoHost/104.220.143.92)
- Bring on Chuck for Wilson.He has pace and can use both feet. (NT) -- MWKent, Friday, October 03, 08:54:31pm (host-80-46-1-168.as13285.net/80.46.1.168)
- I reckon there’s a 80/20 chance of the team being a 532 or out normal formation with Sess on the wing and Wilson as a false 9. But tbh it’ll probs be a bit of both and a fluid formation that Marco likes to employ. It’s interesting and in Marco we trust!! COYW -- Just visiting, Friday, October 03, 07:59:54pm (NoHost/2.125.123.24)
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- Odd -- Going, Friday, October 03, 07:12:41pm (host31-53-230-27.range31-53.btcentralplus.com/31.53.230.27)
Marco moans about getting signings in early yet five weeks after the deadline none of the three appear ready to start. Not impressed with the line up no real pace. If you play five at the back you need pace to break. Where is Robinson has there been a fall out?
Hopefully when we are three up you can ram my thoughts down my throat…..until then!
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- Seems a strange selection, particularly given that he's playing people out of position when he has far more suitable options on the bench. (NT) -- Samuel, Friday, October 03, 07:20:12pm (NoHost/83.106.84.93)
- 2 DMs , and 2ACMs ready to break and threaten . Got to be better than Traore ; meanwhile we have to assume JKA wasn’t ’his ‘ signing and trust his judgement on him not being ready (NT) -- Mickey, Friday, October 03, 07:32:25pm (host86-159-177-162.range86-159.btcentralplus.com/86.159.177.162)
- I would think this is exactly why he wants to get them in early, if 5 weeks into the season he doesn't believe them ready to play hist system as he wants it yet (NT) -- P, Friday, October 03, 07:33:04pm (92.40.185.20.threembb.co.uk/92.40.185.20)
- Seriously can't see us getting anything with this line up. I hope I'm wrong but Silva pre_ers to make a point rather than put out the best team. (NT) -- Cutler 22, Friday, October 03, 07:35:53pm (NoHost/150.228.63.191)
- Lineup: 1 Leno 21 Castagne 5 Andersen 31 Diop 3 Bassey 20 Lukić 16 Berge 8 Wilson 24 King 30 Sessegnon 17 Iwobi -- RR, Friday, October 03, 06:59:03pm (NoHost/104.220.143.92)
Wonder if Sess will play the striker role? I would have him there.
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- Surely left wingback for Sess? 5-3-2 with King and Wilson up top? Nice to see Diop starting. Probably an indication of worry about Semenyo causing Andersen fits. (NT) -- eganonoa, Friday, October 03, 07:02:28pm (cable-146-255-156-96.dynamic.telemach.ba/146.255.156.96)
- Re: Lineup: 1 Leno 21 Castagne 5 Andersen 31 Diop 3 Bassey 20 Lukić 16 Berge 8 Wilson 24 King 30 Sessegnon 17 Iwobi (NT) -- woolfy (diop cf), Friday, October 03, 07:03:35pm (cpc1-finc17-2-0-cust2500.4-2.cable.virginm.net/82.19.233.197)
- We have a young talented striker on the bench but Silva decides to start with no striker? What's the point in signing these players if they're not used when we really need them? In footballing terms, he's not a kid - going on 19 at 6'6ft with great balance and technical ability. Give him a chance. (NT) -- Samuel, Friday, October 03, 07:26:59pm (NoHost/83.106.84.93)
- Well done josh . Full one soon ? -- Showery weather, Friday, October 03, 03:34:09pm (2e409ff7.skybroadband.com/46.64.159.247)
England Under-21s boss Lee Carsley has handed Fulham midfielder Josh King his first call-up for the Euro 2027 qualifiers against Moldova and Andorra.
King, 18, was with the Under-19s during the last international break, but some impressive displays for Fulham in the Premier League and Carabao Cup this season have seen him promoted
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- Interesting to see what formation we go for! -- Alboy, Friday, October 03, 02:07:33pm (host5-80-175-253.range5-80.btcentralplus.com/5.80.175.253)
It will be interesting to see how we line up and who starts up front. Will Marco risk Asare or Lupalo B ? Will we play with a false 9 ? We have strengh in wide areas, how can we relate that to our dilemma regarding both strikers being unavailable.
I'm sure Marco will have a plan, they like to counter attack. My feeling would be play the all forward more quickly and try to turn their defenders. Should be a good game looking forward to us gaining a victory against the odds tonight.
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- YES OR NO! -- simpson, Friday, October 03, 12:12:33pm (ns3039824.ip-164-132-163.eu/164.132.163.139)
OH .. SO one of the dead victims of the Madchester killing
one of the victims WAS SHOT by the POLICE!!!!
LESSONS From >>john charles menezes not learnt!
take away the guns from ALL POLICE!
only the ARMY can be trusted with LIVE bullets!??
facts !
cant aim or wont aim?
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- Bournemouth seem over-confident ?? -- Mickey, Friday, October 03, 10:36:06am (82-132-229-226.dab.02.net/82.132.229.226)
Listened to a few of their fans on podcasts and they feel they’re in a really good place at this precise moment . One rated the window a healthy 9/10 despite ‘losing 4 of their back 5’ ( I think he included the keeper ). Even suggesting their highly praised recruitment did a ‘magnificent ‘ job in the summer in bringing in players not only on a par but arguably more effective than those who departed . Much talked about their press and its intensity , which starts from Evanilson and the players behind him knowing exactly their roles to support the intensity . Not for them eg that one of their CHs is less effective/more exposed because he doesn’t have the first choice FB next to him . In short seemingly a well-oiled machine with extra quality in our nemesis Semenyo ( remember Bristol City). Yet somehow with all this and on a windswept night tonight , I have a hunch that we won’t be leaving empty -handed . Even more focus needed at the start of both halves (regularly targeted by them ). I’ve no idea who will replace Raul if not fit ( surely not Traore , what about Chukwueze ?), nor whether we will switch to 3-5-2. But with the Int Break upon us , I believe we will step up tonight 🙏
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- I hope you are right Mickey. Araola has got the better of Marco in recent matches, especially at the Vitality Stadium. I would love him at Fulham, should Marco not sign a new contract, but suspect his next move will be to a top Spanish Club or other Champions League Club. (NT) -- Mr Kurkuruza, Friday, October 03, 10:42:11am (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
- I always wonder where the goals will come from and even less so if Jimenez is not 100%. Id play sessegnon up the field as he has an eye for goal (NT) -- Waterboy, Friday, October 03, 10:48:13am (NoHost/83.105.95.124)
- Their results don’t scream that they’ve improved, sneaked game v wolves, BHA deserved at least a point against them, last minute draw v Leeds, although they were good v spurs & Liv. I’d be shocked if their replacements are as good, 2CBs who left are starting for PSG and R.Marid. See them as like last season, around us, BHA, palace when things settle down, around 9-12th, really good season may mean E.League. I worry about semenyo v Anderson/Cast, but I’m sure we’ll have a plan. (NT) -- Henry1879, Friday, October 03, 11:13:06am (cpc113812-lea23-2-0-cust213.6-3.cable.virginm.net/86.26.216.214)
- II pray decisions go our way, merited or not. Needs to start evening out. Though I expect another yellow for Lukic. On paper, tougher than last week, obviously. I fancy Chuck doing something tonight, also Kevin needs to be less predictable position-wise. Being stuck on the touchline is not producing. (NT) -- CB, Friday, October 03, 11:52:53am (213-18-174-254.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.174.254)
- Contrast of styles. They bite. No place for holding on the ball. Two up top and some options long can be a plan. (NT) -- Eerwah, Friday, October 03, 12:41:58pm (116-251-29-183.pool.activ8me.net.au/116.251.29.183)
- Is it just me who thinks that Bournemouth are a dirty side? (NT) -- Mr Judgmental, Friday, October 03, 12:52:44pm (NoHost/191.101.157.5)
- Semenyo and Scott are both incredibly snidey and niggly little buggers, despite being talented. I can't stand Semenyo, personally (NT) -- Same Old Story, Friday, October 03, 01:37:17pm (NoHost/84.66.6.179)
- They’re always at the top of pressing and almost go man to man at times across the pitch. Then if you beat that press, with a pass or someone going past someone, then they often just foul. Usually get away with it as they press all the way with their front players, so often the ref doesn’t see the fouls as yellows, even though they’re cynical it happens away from a threatening position. (NT) -- Henry1879, Friday, October 03, 02:19:36pm (cpc113812-lea23-2-0-cust213.6-3.cable.virginm.net/86.26.216.214)
- Silva has already heaped praise on B'mouth, as a pre-match morale booster. (NT) -- MWKent, Friday, October 03, 12:55:08pm (host-80-46-1-168.as13285.net/80.46.1.168)
- Re: Bournemouth seem over-confident ?? -- 'ave 'im Vic, Friday, October 03, 03:24:42pm (host86-154-208-158.range86-154.btcentralplus.com/86.154.208.158)
- Their confidence is understandable, particularly against us. We're great given time on the ball, but we're vulnerable against the high pressure. And with precious little to offer in terms of our striker threat, Bournemouth will have even more confidence going forward. How many goals have our strikers scored in 6 games? We need to hope one of them can hit a purple patch or it's all down to Iwobi and Wilson. (NT) -- Samuel, Friday, October 03, 05:56:29pm (NoHost/83.106.84.93)
- online at 10am for Wycombe tickets as this is the time advertised they will go on sale. I keep refreshing, still not showing for sale at 10:22am. Phone ticket office - message saying we are unable to take your call. It really shouldn't be this difficult should it? P1ss up, brewery etc. -- Wolfie Smith, Friday, October 03, 10:24:44am (94-30-83-200.xdsl.murphx.net/94.30.83.200)
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- WPR Idiot -- Dave, Friday, October 03, 10:11:33am (host86-181-58-227.range86-181.btcentralplus.com/86.181.58.227)
The QPR Idiot seems to forget that we were the much bigger club in the 60’s while they were well down in the Old 3 rd Division. They only bugged it up against us for a very few years.!!!
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- There's his oversight of Loftus Road being a rank 3rd Division ground, especially in the 60's, and now in it's more modern guise. A stadium that ranks down with Griffin Park. However Coren may make out he's a savvy, down to earth, loyal 'Bitter', bigging up a grandiose Chelsea rivalry and downplaying a Fulham one, he's not going to turn down an opportunity to dine at CC in the type of fancy setting he identifies with. A true D lister! (NT) -- Mr Kurkuruza, Friday, October 03, 10:36:57am (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
- They did manage to win something in the 60,s though. (NT) -- Hammersmithender, Friday, October 03, 10:42:29am (NoHost/31.94.14.95)
- Away tickets. -- HemelRog, Friday, October 03, 08:23:13am (5ec0f8a7.skybroadband.com/94.192.248.167)
We must be just about the only club that seems to discourage fans to attend away games.Really odd.So you get stuck with a few tickets.Big deal.Maybe that’s why am a poverty kid ((quote from one of my kids)and not a multi billionaire.
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- Bournemouth -- Mr Kurkuruza, Thursday, October 02, 08:15:44pm (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
Is anyone from the Reading area driving to the game tomorrow? The gear box on my car is not working and the last return train from Pokesdown is at 10.15, and I guess will be rammed. Anyone done that train journey back before can confirm that's the case? I reckon the match won't finish until 10pm.
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- Everton away -- TSW, Thursday, October 02, 06:39:35pm (NoHost/31.94.56.153)
know loads who are talking about going, even a a few occasionals due to it being a new ground and we've only taken 1400 tickets??. Used to take the bottom tier at Goodison and that held more
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- And 2 tickets per person, with no Loyalty Point requirement. Can't be right surely? Maybe the club are seeing how well it sells first with a view to extending the allocation later. (NT) -- MF, Thursday, October 02, 06:47:39pm (14.246.189.80.dyn.plus.net/80.189.246.14)
- It's very unlikely we'll take more. Usually we post info about more tickets being available under Further Information on the ticketing page, and this time there is nothing there. (NT) -- Sean, Friday, October 03, 06:45:57am (cpc159747-finc22-2-0-cust115.4-2.cable.virginm.net/81.108.184.116)
- Its the financial climate now, we did most of the aways when travel was cheap but getting to a home game now is significantly more than it was say 10 years ago (NT) -- Waterboy, Friday, October 03, 10:07:41am (NoHost/83.105.95.124)
- Muniz and Tete out of tomorrows game (and probably won't be ready even after the international break), Jimenez to be assessed... -- Team news..., Thursday, October 02, 11:32:04am (NoHost/90.213.242.75)
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- Berge & Lukic -- MWKent, Thursday, October 02, 09:37:36am (host-80-46-1-168.as13285.net/80.46.1.168)
It's the second season now that these two have been paired as defensive midfielders with no goals between them.
My question, will either of them ever score from open play or set piece( other than a penalty and that's unlikely with VAR)? Based on the evidence so far, it's very doubtful. Who's fault is it then, is it the player or has Marco decided that they should concentrate on their defending, disrupting duties?
Marco will be without Lukic soon as he is one booking away from a suspension so he must re-think his own approach.
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- Lukic has got into some really, really decent positions to score this season and definitely should have v Villa. He's got the second highest expected goals in the squad, a tiny bit behind Muniz. Despite it being a pretty flawed metric, it does show that he's getting into the right positions. I think historically Lukic has had a really good scoring record. (NT) -- Jim© The Devon IP, Thursday, October 02, 09:52:00am (62-64-192-58.virtual1.co.uk/62.64.192.58)
- Reed also failed to score last season (NT) -- Waterboy, Thursday, October 02, 10:57:49am (lanc-08-b2-v4wan-168332-cust3678.vm14.cable.virginm.net/80.5.238.95)
- Berge is absolutely playing to a very defined role. He is the shield and ball recycler, keeping things ticking along and moving. You can see his reticence as he drives forward and desire to off-load and get back in position. I put that all down to (sensible in my mind) instruction. Lukic has been asked to play a number of different roles since he's been at the club. Right now, this seems the most attacking. Imagine it'll take some time to adjust, but some (not many but some) goals will follow. (NT) -- eganonoa, Thursday, October 02, 11:06:15am (NoHost/195.222.49.31)
- You wonder why Fulham can’t get to next level ? Look around the lower divisions & you’ll see plenty of Berge & Lukic types. Run around but offer very little. We aren’t moving forward with either! (NT) -- Expected goals my a**e, Thursday, October 02, 11:55:44am (NoHost/148.252.147.149)
- Muniz signs new contract...confirmed -- G, Wednesday, October 01, 07:03:18pm (82-132-232-172.dab.02.net/82.132.232.172)
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- Yay excellent (NT) -- alanos, Wednesday, October 01, 07:13:53pm (82-132-212-53.dab.02.net/82.132.212.53)
- That’s really good news (NT) -- Bexhill Beast, Wednesday, October 01, 07:29:50pm (host81-141-130-38.range81-141.btcentralplus.com/81.141.130.38)
- Sooooooo his absence on Sunday was an injury tomb his wrist them? (NT) -- unleash them beast friday?, Wednesday, October 01, 07:34:39pm (ns3168671.ip-51-178-130.eu/51.178.130.44)
- I'm another very pleased. (NT) -- b+w g., Wednesday, October 01, 08:07:33pm (host86-162-239-12.range86-162.btcentralplus.com/86.162.239.12)
- Great news. Let’s hope he is in contention to start at Bournemouth (NT) -- Hg, Wednesday, October 01, 08:09:24pm (NoHost/31.94.34.182)
- Glad we’ve tied down our back up striker to a long term deal. (NT) -- Now let’s get Reed on a big deal., Wednesday, October 01, 08:22:59pm (NoHost/94.13.30.36)
- It's good news for the club. At least they'll get a fee when he's sold next summer. (NT) -- Samuel, Wednesday, October 01, 09:49:19pm (NoHost/83.106.84.93)
- So sorry Samuel if I offended you . I thought you were a made up , fictional character , on here to say what your inventor Eganonoa wanted to say himself but was too shy to come out with . But now he says you are not only a real person but also have difficulties you told him about ‘offline’ . P (NT) -- alanos, Thursday, October 02, 06:16:16am (82-132-215-31.dab.02.net/82.132.215.31)
- You ok hun? Drop me a DM babes (NT) -- Travelex, Thursday, October 02, 07:01:57am (host86-162-117-51.range86-162.btcentralplus.com/86.162.117.51)
- Considering the Muniz contract is yet more proof, if it were needed, that your conspiracy theory bollocks is, in fact bollocks, it would seem sensible to use the opportunity to at least sit this one out and stop trying to bully people (NT) -- Anal-floss, Thursday, October 02, 09:25:05am (unn-149-40-62-58.datapacket.com/149.40.62.58)
- Excellent (NT) -- …, Wednesday, October 01, 10:08:34pm (host217-42-133-87.range217-42.btcentralplus.com/217.42.133.87)
- Five year contract, plus a one year club option. Club has done this perfectly. Got as much of his super-cheap contract as possible and then signed him up during his penultimate year. Everything we could have hoped for and puts a really positive spin overall on the summer (long-term contracts for him and King, kept Ridgeon, lost no one of value, signed the young Kevin). Future looks bright!!! (NT) -- eganonoa, Wednesday, October 01, 10:23:52pm (cable-146-255-156-96.dynamic.telemach.ba/146.255.156.96)
- Makes sense at this stage.Crazy to let him go on a free. I hope he improves and proves many right. End of the day it’s Fulham’s success that counts. (NT) -- CB, Thursday, October 02, 08:03:13am (213-18-174-254.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.174.254)
- Re: Muniz signs new contract...confirmed (NT) -- Great News he’s got the Lot. Needs Consistency, Thursday, October 02, 09:15:14am (host-2-102-161-56.as13285.net/2.102.161.56)
- I wonder whether this excellent news will influence Silva into re-thinking his plans for when this season is over ? After all , Muniz Is His Player as is Kevin , both of whom he ‘pushed ‘ the Club to sign: not forgetting developing Josh. Let’s remember He is a Big Reason -far above anything else -that these Players have committed to the Club . Much as some might feel he could ‘outstay ‘ his time , he has far more to give and achieve (NT) -- Mickey, Thursday, October 02, 10:01:00am (82-132-228-126.dab.02.net/82.132.228.126)
He's got the lot? Are you serious? Lacking consistancy? Mitro lacked some consistancy and he's no Mitro. (NT) -- CB, Thursday, October 02, 10:09:41am (213-18-174-254.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.174.254)
- At the same age, Mitrovic was a bit part player for a shambolic Newcastle side. You really don't understand much about football. (NT) -- Do you?, Thursday, October 02, 10:46:09am (NoHost/213.207.130.46)
- So you see him as being as successful as Mitro. Based on his years to date. Hate stooping to personal as you patheticly do, but wtf do you know more than anyone else. You weren't born when I played and started watching Fulham. Crawl back up your anus pal. (NT) -- CB, Thursday, October 02, 07:58:39pm (213-18-174-254.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.174.254)
- Understandable response. However, in that position 'productivity' is measured in goals. You can score when you are on the pitch, which Mitro was for 8925 minutes in this division. During 6 seasons for 2 clubs, he scored 38 prem goals, penalties included. Muniz has played 2868 mins in the prem with 18 (no pens). He's yet to have a career to match Mitro and may never, but meanwhile finds the back of the net in this division one-and-a-half times as often. (NT) -- b+w g., Thursday, October 02, 09:53:56pm (host86-162-239-12.range86-162.btcentralplus.com/86.162.239.12)
- You were the one who brought Mitro into the debate! As per b+w g's response he has a far better goals to minutes ratio AT THE MOMENT and it is WAY BETTER than Mitro's at the same age! I think there is only one of us with their heads up their anus. (NT) -- And that's you, PAL!, Friday, October 03, 12:08:30am (NoHost/213.207.132.12)
- Perhaps if he got the service rather than fighting for scraps (NT) -- Top striker,best years ahead, Thursday, October 02, 11:10:31am (NoHost/217.42.133.87)
- Not Farage Related - Wycombe tickets -- MF, Wednesday, October 01, 05:45:52pm (NoHost/212.103.232.179)
<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="https://www.fulhamfc.com/tickets-and-hospitality/match-tickets/wycombe-wanderers-v-fulham/">https://www.fulhamfc.com/tickets-and-hospitality/match-tickets/wycombe-wanderers-v-fulham/</a>
While it is encouraging to see Away tickets going on sale early as they have tended to be late in recent years, it's happening at the same time high Loyalty Point supporters are likely to be journeying to Bournemouth. It will probably only be a minor inconvenience for most if at all, but could the club have not waited till Monday?
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- William Hill -- Hamburg will hold the Final Fulham will be in it., Wednesday, October 01, 03:31:58pm (NoHost/31.94.24.103)
Fulham 12/1 to be Relegated. Just Saying.
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- Not happening but I can see us finishing 14th or something like that and Silva walking. Then anything could happen. Wouldn't mind another stint in the VAR-free Championship! (NT) -- JamieR, Wednesday, October 01, 04:26:08pm (NoHost/171.33.195.182)
- Hamburg will HOST the final, Fulham will PLAY in it FFS (NT) -- SW, Wednesday, October 01, 05:12:31pm (cos2-04-b2-v4wan-171525-cust1783.vm10.cable.virginm.net/82.10.46.248)
- Some fans just like living on the edge (NT) -- Number 6, Wednesday, October 01, 07:20:27pm (NoHost/80.233.59.176)
- Alboy will be apoplectic. (NT) -- SCA, Wednesday, October 01, 08:06:00pm (NoHost/90.205.150.81)
- Fulham Pier not attracting football expectations. Cold weather will cause problems (NT) -- Harold Romero, Riverside Suite., Wednesday, October 01, 09:11:28pm (host-78-145-76-236.as13285.net/78.145.76.236)
- Fill out this survey -- FF, Wednesday, October 01, 11:27:49am (host213-120-121-65.in-addr.btopenworld.com/213.120.121.65)
This is key for our club to progress.. Please fill out the survey on the club website. Pass on the word and get as many people as possible to do the same.
www.fulhamfc.com/news/2025/september/30/craven-cottage-public-consultation
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- Definitely worth doing, but might not affect the club at all, as the stadium is not owned by the club. If the resulting revenues from these concerts go to the stadium company and not the club, then it makes no difference to FFC, just the Khan portfolio (NT) -- Same Old Story, Wednesday, October 01, 11:55:31am (NoHost/84.66.6.179)
- Poster 1 English Language 0. (NT) -- Headmaster, Wednesday, October 01, 04:41:00pm (NoHost/158.173.24.48)
- Fulham Pier not attracting expected footfall. Colder weather will bring problems. (NT) -- Harold Romer, Riverside Suite., Thursday, October 02, 12:23:20am (host-78-145-76-236.as13285.net/78.145.76.236)
- Needed IMO -- old codger, Wednesday, October 01, 08:46:42am (86-3-237-96.pon.virginmedia.net/86.3.237.96)
Fulham are plotting a move for Middlesbrough's English midfielder Hayden Hackney, 23.
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- He looks a good player, need someone like him to replace Lukic (NT) -- Wayne, Wednesday, October 01, 11:14:08am (host31-52-136-39.range31-52.btcentralplus.com/31.52.136.39)
- Thought we may bag him in the summer window - good footballer. (NT) -- Fufanac, Wednesday, October 01, 11:58:40am (NoHost/90.194.211.57)
- Not a chance this happens with Boro pushing for promotion (NT) -- TSW, Wednesday, October 01, 12:11:14pm (NoHost/31.94.60.253)
- That guy from Cambridge who had Kevin and everyone else on the left in his pocket all night please. Prime Moneyball investment (NT) -- bs, Wednesday, October 01, 04:26:52pm (NoHost/2.126.51.142)
- Re: Needed IMO (NT) -- This season championship looks below standard, Wednesday, October 01, 04:29:57pm (NoHost/31.94.24.102)
- 💯 missed our chance bigger teams will be in for him now Palace jumped in for Wharton as soon as they could while we twiddle our thumbs for 3 months (NT) -- Button, Wednesday, October 01, 09:09:45pm (nmal-23-b2-v4wan-169190-cust1261.vm24.cable.virginm.net/80.5.116.238)
- and if we do, who's going to be the first to say 'rubbish - not prem quality - get rid'? It seems to happen to every signing within a few weeks, whether we've seen them play or not. (NT) -- .., Thursday, October 02, 03:02:21pm (host86-140-228-110.range86-140.btcentralplus.com/86.140.228.110)
- WE way TK wouldnt have re-signed Mario Lemina... So it must had been Silva who let 'this gem' leave Wolves and then NOT GET this 'upgrade on BERGE/Lukic -- what says you!, Tuesday, September 30, 10:26:04pm (NoHost/81.79.53.205)
do it lads..call out MARCOS failures!
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- Re: and why on earth DID marco NOT bring on his final 2 attacking subs until the final 10 minutes.. team was calling for a BOOST.. (NT) -- silvas lost it?, Tuesday, September 30, 10:30:25pm (ns31546371.ip-141-94-196.eu/141.94.196.217)
- Certainly not Marco's failure but why on earth did Sasha not put some real power into his effort rather than gently tap it towards goal, thus allowing the defender's clearance off the line. I can think of so many midfielders who would have just smashed that in, especially as it was on his strongest foot! If that had gone in, it could easily have changed the outcome of the match. (NT) -- Mike T, Wednesday, October 01, 09:11:42am (NoHost/194.35.122.36)
- Sign of a player low in confidence, or not natural in that scenario, concentrating on keeping it on target, rather than ensuring the defender had no chance. Really solid player, but been in a lot of advanced positions last few games due to our shape, but never fills me with confidence he’ll score or produce a meaningful pass, must have had 4 shots v B.ford, none of them were clean. Of course you’d lose defensive side, but TC would be far more productive in the positions lukic is getting in. (NT) -- Henry1879, Wednesday, October 01, 09:31:46am (cpc113812-lea23-2-0-cust213.6-3.cable.virginm.net/86.26.216.214)
- Re: WE way TK wouldnt have re-signed Mario Lemina... So it must had been Silva who let 'this gem' leave Wolves and then NOT GET this 'upgrade on BERGE/Lukic (NT) -- Mario Lemina a top player should’ve acted., Thursday, October 02, 09:23:33am (host-2-102-161-56.as13285.net/2.102.161.56)
- More about Marco -- Bad Boy, Tuesday, September 30, 02:02:12pm (NoHost/2.222.160.125)
Now in his 4th season with us, accumulating 161 points to date in Prem…..in the last 4 seasons in the top flight more points gained than those “middling” clubs around us (W Ham, Everton, B’mouth, Brentford, Forest, Palace, Wolves & Palace) Only Brighton can better that…..And those “middling” clubs in this time frame have employed 29 mgrs between them. Oh, and in his first season the small matter of getting us promoted. He’s the 3rd longest serving mgr in Prem & 6th longest in EFL….and still some “supporters” are giving him grief. FFS cut the fella some slack.
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- It’s beyond belief , esp giving him grief over his in-game passion ! That could only come from Fulham Fans and gradually on here the likes of certain posters are trying to feed this into our mindset . (NT) -- Mickey, Tuesday, September 30, 02:15:09pm (82-132-229-28.dab.02.net/82.132.229.28)
- Been offline for a while, so scrolled down for a few mins to see if discussion had altered to match your summary of it: 'giving grief.' It hadn't. (NT) -- b+w g., Tuesday, September 30, 03:01:25pm (host86-162-239-12.range86-162.btcentralplus.com/86.162.239.12)
- Re: More about Marco: Exactly he is an outstanding Manager that improves players. Cannot believe some of the comments on here towards him. (NT) -- Alboy, Tuesday, September 30, 04:45:53pm (host5-80-175-253.range5-80.btcentralplus.com/5.80.175.253)
- Which of the comments on the previous thread re; silva can’t you believe? And which ones, as per this thread, have shown people who aren’t cutting him some slack? (NT) -- Henry1879, Tuesday, September 30, 05:06:21pm (cpc113812-lea23-2-0-cust213.6-3.cable.virginm.net/86.26.216.214)
- Questioning his selections ,substitutions ,game management ,touchline behaviour (certainly criticised ), poss ‘making a point ‘ with the omission of a certain deadline hour acquisition . There are other comments perhaps more disguised , but no doubting an undertone of ‘should be doing better ‘ . I repeat ; with this Squad and this recruitment set-up , who would do better ? Our closest competitors ie Palace, Bournemouth , Brighton and Forest all have better squads than us . (NT) -- Mickey, Tuesday, September 30, 05:52:12pm (82-132-230-19.dab.02.net/82.132.230.19)
- In order I’d have Glas, Iraola, silva, hurz, ange. Silva has huge say in putting together this squad those clubs don’t spend more than us (over time), so if you think our squad is worse silva has a big part in that. I think palaces is better, not b.mouth anymore, BHA/forest not sure, haven’t seen enough of their new players. Wage bill is par with where we finish, points is irrelevant, we’ve had opportunity and come up short in big cup moments, that’s not an opinion, it’s the reality. (NT) -- Henry1879, Tuesday, September 30, 06:33:45pm (cpc113812-lea23-2-0-cust213.6-3.cable.virginm.net/86.26.216.214)
- Yes but as much as Silva has a big say on targets ,that’s not to say his choices are better than a good Recruitment Team would source . We know his ‘type ‘ , but just imagine a highly promising young prospect being brought into the Squad; I doubt whether he would object . His input needs to be as well as the Recruitment Team, rather then instead of . But with a DoF primarily focused on ‘Sports Entertainment ‘364 days and 23 hours a year , it’s far easier to grant him total control (NT) -- Mickey, Tuesday, September 30, 06:47:29pm (82-132-230-19.dab.02.net/82.132.230.19)
- re short Dissagrea with all of that we spend very little in real terms. The squad has become much stronger despite people making judgements on player's far too quickly. It's happened so many times that people often have to eat humble pie on here. One of Marco's great talents is he improves players continually. He is a great Manager no doubt a out that. (NT) -- Alboy, Tuesday, September 30, 07:40:46pm (host5-80-175-253.range5-80.btcentralplus.com/5.80.175.253)
- Great post. Great research. And for what it's worth, think he'll sign a new contract. No inside info, but he must be aware how precarious the manager's position is at the vast majority of clubs... (NT) -- p, Tuesday, September 30, 10:03:10pm (NoHost/109.144.129.135)
- ESR -- Al, Tuesday, September 30, 12:36:50pm (cust-141-195-136-26.jurassic-fibre.net/141.195.136.26)
Why when ESR receives the ball does he instatntly turn and pass the ball backwards.
Compare him to Joss where most times will control the ball, spin and go forward. If only we could get ESR playing to his past levels.
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- What "past levels"? He was never a starter at Arsenal. Some fleeting cameos. One loan spell at Huddrsfield. 36million? They had us hook line and sinker (NT) -- Alex FM, Tuesday, September 30, 01:23:17pm (NoHost/109.76.12.23)
- Yep, we've come a cropper on this one. Still hasn't played 90 mins for us yet, and in his 6 years at Arsenal, played the equivalent of 40 games in minutes on the pitch. Never looks like he's fit enough. (NT) -- Wayne, Tuesday, September 30, 02:01:23pm (host31-52-136-39.range31-52.btcentralplus.com/31.52.136.39)
- In my 55 seasons pound for pound the worst signing we've ever made, an absolute waste of money, primarily because he was a player we didn't need at the time considering we had Josh King already on the books, when Silva leaves Smith-Rowe will be his legacy. -- Gary Elkins Shin Pad, Tuesday, September 30, 03:02:25pm (syn-097-076-236-132.biz.spectrum.com/97.76.236.132)
- Hilarious. You do talk some shit. (NT) -- GA, Tuesday, September 30, 03:09:36pm (ool-18b90125.dyn.optonline.net/24.185.1.37)
- Didn't we sign him when Josh King was 16? I can only imagine the fun that the meltdowners on here would have had if that had been the plan at the time. For info- our 4th highest scorer last season (playing the least minutes out of those by miles. 2 goals in 3 games worth of minutes this season. You only need go back 4 year to see that he scored 11 times for Arsenal. (NT) -- Jim© The Devon IP, Tuesday, September 30, 03:17:28pm (62-64-192-58.virtual1.co.uk/62.64.192.58)
- Marlet, Ehlrich, David to name 3 off the top of my head. (NT) -- Mr No Name, Tuesday, September 30, 05:47:02pm (NoHost/45.159.88.116)
- Mitroglu (NT) -- GA, Tuesday, September 30, 06:16:57pm (ool-18b90125.dyn.optonline.net/24.185.1.37)
- All about context. Mark Cooper only cost 40k but that was our entire transfer budget for the season which is why he'll always be my pound for pound worst signing. It always makes me laugh when people include Marlet in the same breath as the likes of Runstrom and Elrich. He was nowhere near that bad. If we'd paid £3-4m less, no one would raise an eyebrow. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Wednesday, October 01, 01:34:58pm (NoHost/84.66.6.179)
- Agree on the first part, as that would be to discuss players of blatantly below Prem standard, which Marlet wasn't. But...he cost 40% of the then UK transfer record, which is a notably higher percentage than ESR or Frank Large did. (Would you anyway agree that that makes a reasonable yardstick for price comparison between different eras?) (NT) -- b+w g., Wednesday, October 01, 03:49:26pm (host86-162-239-12.range86-162.btcentralplus.com/86.162.239.12)
- I can't say on Large as he predates me, but i think important to note the pedigree - we were signing someone who was a reasonably regular French international at the time - a time when they held both world and european cups, and had Henry, Trezeguet, Govou, Wiltord. So absolutely in retrospect he didn't work out (we played him wrong IMO), but there was absolutely a reason we paid a club record fee for him at the time. A good yardstick for expensive flop, but not for excessive fee paid, IMO. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Thursday, October 02, 09:40:55am (NoHost/84.66.6.179)
- That's a useful distinction for future chat about transfers. We've also each given a way of looking at 'expensive'. Yours regarding Cooper is relative to funds available at the time. Thatr works for a player of any standard and cost. Mine, applicable only to larger punts, is how it relates to the UK record at that time. Clarke's fee of £150,000 buys a big toe in 2025. Can start to decipher if you know it was the 1968 record. (NT) -- b+w g., Thursday, October 02, 11:04:09am (host86-162-239-12.range86-162.btcentralplus.com/86.162.239.12)
- Yeah, i guess if we were translating the pedigree into current players (difficult to do as no country as dominant as France were), you'd probably look at Nkunku (latest sale £55m), or Torres (latest sale circa £50m). So, if today, we were signing someone with Marlets 'pedigree' - £50m seems a fair punt. So around 40% of the current transfer fee also. What it suggests is that we probably paid the 'right' sort of fee, but it didn't work out. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Friday, October 03, 11:16:12am (NoHost/84.66.6.179)
- I also thought it was on this conversation, but must have been a similar one that Marlet was the reason Fayed closed his wallet. I don't think anything that subsequently happened suggests that at all. I think it gave him the excuse he wanted to close his wallet, but wasn't the cause. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Friday, October 03, 01:47:32pm (NoHost/84.66.6.179)
- I know he's not generally showing his best and a tad suprised Marco hasn't given him the confidence he seems to lack. A good player in there and has better anticipation in the box than some???? in our team (NT) -- CB, Tuesday, September 30, 06:01:53pm (213-18-174-254.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.174.254)
- Frank Large. Imagine selling Mitro and getting David Elm + 500k in exchange (NT) -- MH, Tuesday, September 30, 06:47:44pm (92.40.175.220.threembb.co.uk/92.40.175.220)
- Best tacticians in the Premier League. -- Mr Kurkuruza, Tuesday, September 30, 11:54:22am (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
I don't profess to be very knowledgeable in this, but from my own observations of watching Fulham against their opponents i'd guess the following would be my top picks in order of my subjective view of quality:
Pep - Every coach appears deferential to him, and we never even draw against them! How many titles?
Glasner - 18 PL games unbeaten. They have just beaten Liverpool and have lost Eze, such a key player.
Slot - did amazing things with an unchanged squad last season, but can he do it this season with expensive additions. Time will tell.
Emery - A great Europa League record with middling clubs, Arsenal pulled the trigger too soon? Has out thought our Marco over the last 2 seasons. Did well in the Champs League last season against the best coaches.
Iraola - Again, seems to have the measure of Marco recently, especially away last season. The way they managed the game after scoring early.
Marco - Does wonders for Fulham. Has had great success beating middle to upper ranked clubs, but struggles against defensive teams. Oh and that temper!
Nuno - Has a great last season, only to get sacked by the hot head owner. Another top coach who can do magic with lesser resources. Marco has got the better of him recently.
What do you think and why?
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- My belief is that there's a lot more to management than being a tactician. Marco is good there. Where he stands vs others you list I don't know, but he's clearly up there. But where he seems to excel is in squad cohesion and man-managment. I can't remember a squad so together as we have now. And the way he's turned around some players is incredible. Can't imagine there are many better at that. (NT) -- eganonoa, Tuesday, September 30, 12:16:35pm (cable-146-255-156-96.dynamic.telemach.ba/146.255.156.96)
- I think we've had other managers that have excelled on the squad cohesion front (Micky Adams team would have gone to war for each other), but Marco is definitely strong here. Like Adams though, i think you're f**ked if he doesn't like/rate you, to the point where he'd rather play a round peg in a square hole to avoid including you. So even in agreement in your overall point here, i think there's aspects of it that aren't quite so rosy. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Tuesday, September 30, 12:32:32pm (NoHost/84.66.6.179)
- I didn't seek to get your opinion on all round management skills, I asked purely about tactical ability. You could have opened a new thread on management skills. (NT) -- Mr Kurkuruza, Tuesday, September 30, 12:53:06pm (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
- I'm not 100% sure about Guardiola (deference of other managers aside), simply because he literally hasn't had a single job as a manager where he hasn't had access to the very best resources. He's obviously not a bum, but he'll always have that asterisk next to his name IMO. Do it with Everton and then we'll talk :) (NT) -- Same Old Story, Tuesday, September 30, 12:34:39pm (NoHost/84.66.6.179)
- But a lot of coaches have copied his posession based tactics up and he has now adapted his team to new tactics. I have a feeling they might win the title this season. (NT) -- Mr Kurkuruza, Tuesday, September 30, 01:00:56pm (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
- City 7th net spend last 5 years, Ars, Che, Utd over double, what have they won in comparison? How many coaches have been at those clubs and not done a fraction of what he’s archieved with larger resources? It’s also v.hard to keep winning, regardless of resource, to keep evolving, down the pyramid he’s the most influential manager, from splitting CBs, FBs stepping into mid, playing 4 CBs, false 9s to haaland, those are all much copied ideas which originate from pep. (NT) -- Henry1879, Tuesday, September 30, 01:23:41pm (82-132-223-88.dab.02.net/82.132.223.88)
- Fabian Hürzeler should be high in this list. (NT) -- Al, Tuesday, September 30, 12:39:59pm (cust-141-195-136-26.jurassic-fibre.net/141.195.136.26)
- Don't confuse frustration with having a bad temper - they are 2 very different things. -- TopCat, Wednesday, October 01, 08:54:57am (31-221-48-155.cust-31.exponential-e.net/31.221.48.155)
- Just wondering -- Mca, Tuesday, September 30, 08:44:33am (NoHost/148.252.146.25)
Im sure I'll get accused of being a Brentford fan, or troll etc, but here goes. Is Marco as wonderful as we think? If he isn't responsible for transfers, why is he still here if they keep screwing him over re a striker? He still has a good rep, and hes been here long enough to lose the jump ship tag he may have had. We're not really progressing position wise, and if he does have transfer input, the answer to every question seems to be buy more wingers. He's clearly an excellent coach, but is it going a bit stale? Personally, I think for a club with our spending power, mid table is as good as it gets, as boring as that is. Its just that doesn't seem nearly enough for a man as ambitious as Marco
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- Yawn , we have two terrific strikers . One is getting a bit old , but who is to say he can’t be a force next year . The other we clearly need here long term . (NT) -- alanos, Tuesday, September 30, 08:55:49am (82-132-215-8.dab.02.net/82.132.215.8)
- I honestly can’t fathom your continued love in for Muniz. Raul at 10 years older for me outperforms him. I admit I’ve never been a fan. He lacks awareness, anticipation and skill to be regarded so highly. I know those stats from the past on goals scored look impressive and that disallowed strike was terrific but overall he’s nowhere near consistent and effective enough. Hopefully he’ll prove me wrong as he’s with us for some time now. (NT) -- CB, Tuesday, September 30, 09:51:59am (213-18-174-254.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.174.254)
- Another way, however, of looking at the plain facts about goals per minute, over both the past two seasons, is that they demonstrate what you claim lacking, effectiveness. What better way to? (NT) -- b+w g., Tuesday, September 30, 10:21:43am (host86-162-239-12.range86-162.btcentralplus.com/86.162.239.12)
- Alanos appears to have a crush on young Muniz, as he did with Dembele mark 2 a few years back. Is it the athleticism, his strength, the cheery personality (not Dembele), or just that he fits the mould of the archetypal old fashioned centre forward?? Like you I'm still to be convinced about Muniz, but I'm happy that he didn't leave the club. (NT) -- Mr Kurkuruza, Tuesday, September 30, 12:01:13pm (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
- With Sam-u-el now dust , is this Eganonoa’s replacement get Muniz out of the club so we can make a lot of money troll ? (NT) -- alanos, Tuesday, September 30, 09:00:35am (82-132-215-8.dab.02.net/82.132.215.8)
- Every time we lose we get an inquest... we are Fulham, it happens... we actually lost because we got fitted up by referees again. A major part of the problem is the media, had those decisions gone against Manchester United they would have been going on about it for a week. MIt is interesting that most of those who have actually played the game have said both were penalties. The handball was virtually a carbon copy of the Sess incident at C******. Unbelievable, but hey, it's only Fulham... (NT) -- Rupert, Tuesday, September 30, 09:00:49am (5ec142b4.skybroadband.com/94.193.66.180)
- It was suggested/posed in a recent podcast whether now was the beginning of a ‘ divorce’ between Silva and the Owners. Yes they give him more freedom than most , but that’s because other than financially , they are clueless in all other footballing matters . But yea his ambition for the Squad far outstrips theirs , as much as they proclaim his ‘greatness’ . (NT) -- Mickey, Tuesday, September 30, 09:02:08am (host86-159-177-162.range86-159.btcentralplus.com/86.159.177.162)
- Remind me again who employed silva as head coach when many (including on here) thought it was a really bad idea? Also, who signed Robbo for 2m, tosin & tete for similar? (NT) -- Henry1879, Tuesday, September 30, 09:28:50am (cpc113812-lea23-2-0-cust213.6-3.cable.virginm.net/86.26.216.214)
- "his ambition for the Squad far outstrips theirs"? How the F**K do you know that. As ALWAYS you totally ignore the financial restrictions the club has to work under because that doesn't suit your, obviously personal, vendetta against the Khans. You are a pathetic no-mark. (NT) -- You love making a fool of yourself, eh!, Tuesday, September 30, 10:46:05am (unn-154-47-28-148.datapacket.com/154.47.28.148)
- I don't think its a bad question. Positives outweigh the negatives, and there have been too many Moyes/Curbishley type situations where fans get impatient for progress and it blows up badly. There are clear flaws at times though, and, it might be me, but they seem to have exacerbated since Boa left. I think he can take too long to make subs when its clear something/someone isn't working, i think he can be stubborn, and i think he reacts to adversity badly pitchside. But overall, he's been great. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Tuesday, September 30, 09:06:41am (NoHost/84.66.6.179)
- Agree, overall v.good, happy we seem better offensively at set pieces & signing younger players, but hysteria leading to sulking must be detrimental to team. No way we get relegated with him as HC, but also isn’t performing a miracle, we are finishing about where our wage bill says, haven’t yet made final step to a cup final. Don’t want to gamble with a new HC, but doesn’t mean he shouldn’t be expected to improve, there are teams who are achieving more with less and vice versa. (NT) -- Henry1879, Tuesday, September 30, 09:24:10am (cpc113812-lea23-2-0-cust213.6-3.cable.virginm.net/86.26.216.214)
- Perfectly said. Losing is inevitable and part of the fun and purpose of spending time on boards like this is to understand why it happened. I certainly hope (and believe) that neither he, nor anyone at the club, just puts every loss down merely to circumstance and lack of backing/poor players. Marco has been a great manager for us, and is a key part of the team that has ultimately provided us with the stability we lost. But he is still comparatively young and has places where he needs to improve (NT) -- eganonoa, Tuesday, September 30, 10:24:00am (NoHost/195.222.49.31)
- Re: resident troll evolving 🤐🤐🤐🤐 (NT) -- Ssw, Tuesday, September 30, 09:54:06am (NoHost/213.122.45.135)
- Have to say it can have a silva lining. Keeps him out of the shop window. For sure has flaws but easily our best manager to date. (NT) -- CB, Tuesday, September 30, 09:57:50am (213-18-174-254.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.174.254)
- Questions of a kind tending to apply to almost any coach with longevity, right up to the Pep level, and e.g. posed of Villa's prior to Sunday. The topical, valid, concern from then about Marco's reactions to in-game ill-fortune (too fan-like?) may by now be an issue for recruiters elsewhere -- higher up the food chain anyway. But he will move sideways with ease, even if this season turns out disappointingly, whereas we will do well to match, let alone mprove on him. (NT) -- b+w g., Tuesday, September 30, 09:59:39am (host86-162-239-12.range86-162.btcentralplus.com/86.162.239.12)
- You are only as good as your tools, we signed him 2 wingers with poor goal records in inferior leagues and we already struggled for goals last year. We dont have anyone with natural eye for scoring. I'd say sess/iwobi/Raul would be the 3 who could get 10 goals up there, everyone else no chance (NT) -- Waterboy, Tuesday, September 30, 11:04:12am (NoHost/148.252.133.125)
- A proven manager is difficult to replace. West Ham hot rod of Moyes and United have tried 5 plus managers since Ferguson. I vote we stick with Marco for as long as he wants to stay. (NT) -- Crafty Cottager, Tuesday, September 30, 11:41:22am (NoHost/94.10.141.250)
- When you couldn’t think it could get any worse -- Ffc, Monday, September 29, 07:33:44pm (97e02c8e.skybroadband.com/151.224.44.142)
The Referee for Friday is
Simon Hooper 🤦🏻♂️
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- Up you pop. (NT) -- HemelMothman, Monday, September 29, 08:57:21pm (5ec0f8a7.skybroadband.com/94.192.248.167)
- Re: When you couldn’t think it could get any worse (NT) -- Does it matter they’re all shit, Monday, September 29, 09:25:02pm (host-2-102-161-56.as13285.net/2.102.161.56)
- Can’t for the excuses from marco and watch him raging on the touchline like a badly behaved kid, it shouldn’t matter who the ref is they’re all shit if we go there with a plan (and a striker) then we might actually win (NT) -- free JKA, Monday, September 29, 11:23:31pm (NoHost/45.137.77.130)
- and the opposition might play well and win or play crap and win no matter how good or bad we are. Then everyone can slag off Silva and the lads again. (NT) -- .., Tuesday, September 30, 08:36:06pm (host86-140-228-110.range86-140.btcentralplus.com/86.140.228.110)
- Having watched the shocking decisions against Chelsea and the unfair Villa ones during the first half one has to question Silva's temperament and his effect on the team with his explosive reactions. Far from firing up our second half performances they've had the opposite effect. -- Bob, Monday, September 29, 06:03:15pm (host81-150-74-16.in-addr.btopenworld.com/81.150.74.16)
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- Honestly another ridiculous post! How was he supposed to react !! Deja vu with the Chelsea game. Awful decisions injury to Jiminez so unlucky. He is a great Manager some poor defending let us down beginning of the first half. Exactly as Marco has said. (NT) -- Alboy, Monday, September 29, 07:09:36pm (host5-80-175-253.range5-80.btcentralplus.com/5.80.175.253)
- I don't blame him for being angry. With every match we seem to be on the losing end of game changing decisions. I would be angry as well. I still think we need to be playing better to minimize the impact of these poor decisions however, better play may not always dig you out from underneath game changing decisions by the refs. (NT) -- RR, Monday, September 29, 07:12:40pm (NoHost/104.220.143.92)
- What's "ridiculous"? To believe that the way a manager acts has an impact on how his subordinates? That they might, quite literally, follow the leader? Because if that's your position, Alboy, you are going against pretty well-plowed scientific knowledge. "How was he supposed to react !?" Like a leader: "Keep your head when all about you are losing theirs..." as I'm sure you've read. And yes indeed "Deja vu with the Chelsea game." I'm not sure that's the killer counter-argument you think it is. (NT) -- eganonoa, Monday, September 29, 07:36:16pm (cable-146-255-156-96.dynamic.telemach.ba/146.255.156.96)
- Tend to agree. Passion is great, but wouldn't we all prefer to work for a boss who stayed calm under pressure than one who loses it when things go wrong. You have to wonder about his decision making in the heat of the moment (NT) -- MH, Monday, September 29, 09:01:33pm (static-41-63-60-95.ipcom.comunitel.net/95.60.63.41)
- Most great managers react with passion Pep, Klop, etc. Football is about passion , I've read the quotes but you cannot continually have poor decisions go against you and just sit there and smile. He is a passionate manager who cares about his club and I would rather have that every time. The reason we lost the game was nothing to do with the Managers reactions. Poor defending second half cost us in a game we really should have won. Josh king an outstanding player will be gutted right now! (NT) -- Alboy, Monday, September 29, 10:23:15pm (host5-80-175-253.range5-80.btcentralplus.com/5.80.175.253)
- Good for them if they can lose their cool but somehow maintain tactical focus and keep their players from losing theirs. But not all people are created equal. If you think there's no linkage between the manager and losing because of "Poor defending second half" that happened right after the break then I think you are living in cloud cuckoo land. (NT) -- eganonoa, Tuesday, September 30, 07:12:50am (cable-146-255-156-96.dynamic.telemach.ba/146.255.156.96)
- So you think there is no link between the fury Silva took into the half time dressing room, and the defensive shambles of the first 6 minutes after the break? Yes it's just a correlation, but can you imagine Marco's thinking in those crucial 20 minutes. Emery made a couple of adjustments and Silva had no anticipation or plan for such. That's my reading of it. (NT) -- Mr Kurkuruza, Tuesday, September 30, 07:40:10am (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
- More attacks on Silva by the self righteous , know -everything Erganonoa! Whatever his touchline emotions , no one on here knows either what he said at half time or how he said it . (NT) -- Mickey, Tuesday, September 30, 08:43:45am (host86-159-177-162.range86-159.btcentralplus.com/86.159.177.162)
- No, but equally, i think the way we often come out after half time particularly when we have what we saw sunday/chelsea - when we just don't appear for 10 minutes. It happens too often for it to be a coincidence. I've said it before but it reminds me of the Arsenal/Halsey/West Brom shambles under Coleman (NT) -- Same Old Story, Tuesday, September 30, 09:08:59am (NoHost/84.66.6.179)
- One could very easily say the same about your regular diatribes on Tony Khan. Not knowing what is happening behind closed doors has never stopped you saying the same thing, every day, about every issue. At least in this case, I believe there are some clear indicators based on observable situations in what I'm writing, as SOS and many others have also pointed out. It's not hard to find situations where Marco's lost his head and others have followed (see e.g. the infamous Man U match). (NT) -- eganonoa, Tuesday, September 30, 10:13:01am (NoHost/195.222.49.31)
- Demoralized second half showing reflected MS state of mind. Always more to learn. (NT) -- Eerwah, Tuesday, September 30, 02:23:29am (customer.brseaus1.pop.starlinkisp.net/206.83.123.244)
- I find it hard to understand is after Raul went off, although we had no recognised centre forward on the pitch, we continued to play as if we did, trying to get crosses into the box and getting balls to Adama with his back to goal which is not his thing. Surely, we should have adapted our approach to use pace and fast inter passing to get through their defence or put long balls over the top for Adama or others to chase and be prepared to shoot from distance, similar to what they did to us. (NT) -- Ted White, Tuesday, September 30, 08:45:20am (host86-166-59-130.range86-166.btcentralplus.com/86.166.59.130)
- poor choices -- fulhamoldfart, Monday, September 29, 03:06:48pm (cpc160099-nmal26-2-0-cust468.19-2.cable.virginm.net/82.18.161.213)
Marco Silva is the best thing since sliced bread according to sum but he didnt even have a sub striker on saturday despite having a very talented Swedish striker on loan from Bayern Munich ? What the hell is that about ? dont even get me started with the headless chicken Trauorie up front ...
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- Have you been to the training ground to see how good the striker actually is and how fit he is. Thought not, just a chance to moan (NT) -- K, Monday, September 29, 03:17:31pm (NoHost/185.192.69.129)
- Loupalo-Bi…..6 goals in as many starts this season + a couple of assists. How ready is he for a first team start? (NT) -- Bad Boy, Monday, September 29, 03:41:20pm (NoHost/2.222.160.125)
- We should have prioritised a striker in the transfer window. It was obviously of importance to the Silva, whose knowledge on football is of superior levels to anyone here. Perhaps we'll now see the Bayern lad get an opportunity because Traore isn't the answer. (NT) -- Samuel, Monday, September 29, 03:53:06pm (NoHost/81.78.165.24)
- the swedish kid is the new Isak scored for Sweden under 21s if Marco doesnt utilise hime now our only other 2 strikers are out injured he need sectioning...... (NT) -- fulhamoldfart, Monday, September 29, 05:21:00pm (cpc160099-nmal26-2-0-cust468.19-2.cable.virginm.net/82.18.161.213)
- Re: poor choices: One he couldn't forsee Jiminez getting injured, two the young lad you mention is probably not quiete fit to play yet. He is a great Manager leave him to make those decisions. (NT) -- Alboy, Monday, September 29, 05:31:48pm (host5-80-175-253.range5-80.btcentralplus.com/5.80.175.253)
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I thought the team played well yesterday... -- G, Monday, September 29, 11:35:34am (NoHost/90.213.242.75)
Couple of minutes of madness cost us.
On we go!!!!
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- Re: I thought the team played well yesterday...: Agree Josh pustandpenalty decisions and injury cost us yesterday. (NT) -- Alboy, Monday, September 29, 11:57:42am (host5-80-175-253.range5-80.btcentralplus.com/5.80.175.253)
- Played pretty well first half. Thought we were unlucky with the penalty not being given and Jiminez going off injured did not help. That's two games in a row now that Traore whas been completely abject. I'm not sure what the question is but he is definitely not the answer! (NT) -- Neil G, Monday, September 29, 12:44:48pm (NoHost/62.64.164.110)
- Adama’s stats are somewhat underwhelming. The 4 EFL sides he’s played for show a goal every 770 minutes and an assist every 393 minutes. So neither a prolific scorer nor provider. Hmmm. (NT) -- Bad Boy, Monday, September 29, 02:26:53pm (NoHost/2.222.160.125)
- Really don't understand how Sessegnon's 'handball' was a penalty v Chelsea but ours, with a goal bound shot was dismissed. Really doesn't give you any faith in the system at all. Plus notes from Yesterday - Josh King & Samuel Chuckwueze, who looked lively when he came on. Sorry, but if 3-1 down show some passion & urgency, don't go down limply. (NT) -- Fulham Reach, Monday, September 29, 03:15:35pm (NoHost/90.194.211.57)
- Worrying -- Don’t tell him Pike., Monday, September 29, 11:30:05am (host-2-102-161-56.as13285.net/2.102.161.56)
This has all the ingredients of a tough slog of a Season. Bournemouth Friday is bloody tough and all most certainly our 2 First team strikers missing. The young lad brought in appears not to be a Marco signing.
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- So what should Silva do this Fri if both our Strikers are out ? -- Mickey, Monday, September 29, 09:44:43am (host86-159-177-162.range86-159.btcentralplus.com/86.159.177.162)
Is it as simple as introducing /trying Asare ? Giving him minutes last Tuesday perhaps would’ve helped but to what extent ? He put our fastest and most physically powerful player there yesterday and that didn’t work . Meanwhile likely Bournemouth will press us way more than Villa did , but should Silva revert to a 3-5-2 to contain them ? If so then where do we utilise either or both of our new wingers ? He hinted that Muniz’ recovery will take longer than a week .
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- Re: So what should Silva do this Fri if both our Strikers are out ? Aware or on of the youngsters from the U21s time for opportunities. (NT) -- Alboy, Monday, September 29, 10:02:55am (89-197-213-185.virtual1.co.uk/89.197.213.185)
- Why not use Asare, afterall he is a current under 21 Swedish International player. I think Silva will revert to type and ignore youth. Playing Traore as a false No9 does not work, he has the physic but lacks the skill and the brain to do the job. However, Silva will go for the safe option. (NT) -- MWKent, Monday, September 29, 10:16:46am (host-80-46-1-168.as13285.net/80.46.1.168)
- No point playing a kid who isn't ready so if that's Marco's opinion of Asare and Loupelo Bi we have to find a different way of playing without a central striker. Away to Bournemouth why not pack defence and rely on breakaways and set pieces. Plenty do that to us. (NT) -- The Man With No Name, Monday, September 29, 10:39:32am (host86-153-245-237.range86-153.btcentralplus.com/86.153.245.237)
- Pray (NT) -- Bexhill Beast, Monday, September 29, 10:41:57am (host81-141-130-38.range81-141.btcentralplus.com/81.141.130.38)
- Re: I'd play lukic there... Gets into goal scoring positions every week (NT) -- Gibbs green, Monday, September 29, 11:05:43am (NoHost/185.201.60.17)
- Only got ourselves to blame? -- Gibbs green, Monday, September 29, 09:27:51am (NoHost/185.201.60.17)
The hostility shown towards ineffectual #9 Harvey got him replaced atHT
And beuniia maid is pay.
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- Squad building all wrong -- Alex FM, Monday, September 29, 09:07:28am (NoHost/89.19.88.55)
Kevin looks out of his depth. ESR is a write off. No quality in central midfield.
Poor from Silva
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- Ollie Watkins -- Don’t tell him Pike., Monday, September 29, 07:01:50am (host-2-102-161-56.as13285.net/2.102.161.56)
Every time he plays us we can’t handle he’s movement and timing of runs Andersen has a nightmare against him.
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- Josh. -- HemelRog, Sunday, September 28, 11:14:52pm (5ec0f8a7.skybroadband.com/94.192.248.167)
How outrageous was that dummy on the left wing?Best enjoy him why we can.
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- Fulham completely bottled it and it looks like Europe are bottling the rider cup bad day all round -- Button Moon with Mr Spoon, Sunday, September 28, 09:28:43pm (nmal-23-b2-v4wan-169190-cust1261.vm24.cable.virginm.net/80.5.116.238)
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- Did my head in when Sky got involved with golf.I’m watching the football not interested in bloody golf.It was on anyway for those that like it. (NT) -- HemelRog, Sunday, September 28, 10:57:02pm (5ec0f8a7.skybroadband.com/94.192.248.167)
Not a regular Ryder cup fan then? It's normal for Europe to lead after the doubles. And usual for the USA to be better at singles (NT) -- Woods apart..., Sunday, September 28, 11:01:23pm (cust-east-lon-46-193-228-44.cust.wifirst.net/46.193.228.44)
- The problem was, and has been for a long time, weak strikers. We needed an upgrade and Silva knew it, hence why he pushed for a new striker. We have journeyman standard center forwards - Raul was once class, but age & injury has caught up with him. Muniz has had half a decent season in 4 years. Give the Bayern lad a chance. He can't be any worse. (NT) -- Samuel, Sunday, September 28, 11:31:54pm (NoHost/81.78.165.24)
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Un-natural arm. Was kings shot going in otherwise? -- Var cheated us 3rd game running??, Sunday, September 28, 08:34:04pm (cust-east-lon-46-193-228-44.cust.wifirst.net/46.193.228.44)
Marco got booked for protest riight?
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- Third Striker -- Where?, Sunday, September 28, 07:30:08pm (host31-53-230-27.range31-53.btcentralplus.com/31.53.230.27)
With Muniz injured you have to question why our last minute acquisition from Bayern was not on the bench! If we are not going to use him why get him?
Good first 30 minutes a definite handball by Cash which blocked a goalbound shot. VAR so inconsistent. What was the difference between that and the one given against Sess at the Dogtrack?
Second half we were toothless but if we had got that penalty who knows. With Raul off who is our pen taker?
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- Josh king -- Alboy, Sunday, September 28, 06:35:43pm (host5-80-175-253.range5-80.btcentralplus.com/5.80.175.253)
What a great young player was outstanding again, man of the match by a mile. If only Jiminez never got injured! On wards and upwards we don't get any luck!
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- My view -- Don’t tell him pike, Sunday, September 28, 05:59:47pm (host-2-102-161-56.as13285.net/2.102.161.56)
Both not penalties imo no yellow card for Josh King either. No Handball either by the Villa Defender.If one of our players was penalised for that I would be furious.
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- Sess might beg to differ. (NT) -- HemelRog, Sunday, September 28, 06:06:28pm (5ec0f8a7.skybroadband.com/94.192.248.167)
- Re: My view: definitely penalty pushes the ball right about to go left and taken out by the keeper no doubt at all!! (NT) -- Alboy, Sunday, September 28, 06:10:04pm (host5-80-175-253.range5-80.btcentralplus.com/5.80.175.253)
- Re: My view (NT) -- I don’t know what handball is anymore, Sunday, September 28, 06:49:23pm (host-2-102-161-56.as13285.net/2.102.161.56)
- Largely agree, though even having seen it several times I’m still not completely sure about the King one. (NT) -- Bexhill Beast, Sunday, September 28, 07:12:07pm (host81-141-130-38.range81-141.btcentralplus.com/81.141.130.38)
- On both occasions, if we gave the same penalty away, i would think us a bit unlucky, but the decisions perfectly justifiable. I think we were absolutely robbed. My bigger concern is that we've had momentum changing decisions twice in two away games and its absolutely sucked the life out of the team subsequently. We've got to handle injustice better. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Monday, September 29, 09:09:11am (NoHost/84.66.6.179)
- Shot was going in, until it hit the outstretched arm. Penalty all day long. (NT) -- Swig, Monday, September 29, 05:02:17pm (NoHost/85.132.252.118)
- Josh King -- MWKent, Sunday, September 28, 05:54:51pm (host-80-46-1-168.as13285.net/80.46.1.168)
Well poor young Josh has started to get a reputation with the refs for simulation and they are brandishing the cards which IMO were very wrong. I bet he will never get any decision now in his favour.
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- Both yellows seemed like pretty clear dives to me. Today, for example, he kicks the ball to the right, and then in the same motion shimmies left while falling over. It looked ridiculous and intentional. There was a penalty there for the taking, but he needs to learn how to do it and not be so transparent about it. (NT) -- eganonoa, Sunday, September 28, 05:58:20pm (cable-146-255-156-96.dynamic.telemach.ba/146.255.156.96)
- No offence but I think I value Jamie Rednapps and Les Ferdinands take on it more than yours. (NT) -- Harry68, Sunday, September 28, 06:07:09pm (cpc160099-nmal26-2-0-cust805.19-2.cable.virginm.net/82.18.163.38)
- I am suprised you saw it like that. He wasn't falling but fainting left had he not been fouled I doubt he would have scored from the wide angle anyway. He should have gone left with th e ball there was enough time and space (NT) -- CB, Sunday, September 28, 06:19:17pm (213-18-177-192.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.177.192)
- I have seen some of the really great strikers who were and a few that still are very nimble, in similar situations have gently tapped the ball out of the goalkeeper's reach and ran round the other side of him and actually retrieved the ball. The keeper having commited himself has very little, or no, chance of recovering so the striker then has the chance of tapping it into an empty net. (NT) -- Mike T, Wednesday, October 01, 08:59:34am (NoHost/194.35.122.36)
- Martinez took his legs out though. Stonewall penalty if thats a li erpool player. (NT) -- The tactician, Sunday, September 28, 06:00:53pm (NoHost/31.94.34.247)
- Behave he was looking for the penalty! You’d be spitting feathers if a penalty was awarded against us for the same. (NT) -- Gary, Sunday, September 28, 06:01:04pm (host31-51-137-1.range31-51.btcentralplus.com/31.51.137.1)
- Never a dive , clear foul by the keeper , and definitely handball ! (NT) -- Ted, Sunday, September 28, 06:02:51pm (NoHost/90.206.40.11)
- Doesn't matter if he was looking for a penalty, he was taken out physically but the goalie its a FOUL (NT) -- Thamesbank, Sunday, September 28, 07:28:23pm (NoHost/31.94.64.52)
- Cannot believe we lost this -- Alboy, Sunday, September 28, 05:36:17pm (host5-80-175-253.range5-80.btcentralplus.com/5.80.175.253)
By far the better side first half. Jiminez scores a great goal then goes of injured which left us weak up front. Even so Josh King who was outstanding should have had a penalty. Terrible decision by the referee and Var. Sadly a bad start to the second cost us the game. Even so Lukic should have scored. Unlucky to lose this one, Traore really not good enough. Not having another striker on the bench cost us. Josh King man of the match again. Regroup and go again
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- Mental weakness -- Sean, Sunday, September 28, 05:26:30pm (cpc159747-finc22-2-0-cust115.4-2.cable.virginm.net/81.108.184.116)
Is Silva's anger at the referees transfers to the team and we are unable to overcome any adversity during our games? How do you address this? 1-0 up, even with 2 major decisions against us, we were still in the driving seat.
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- We have been shafted every game.Pretty hard for it not to destroy morale of both manager and team. (NT) -- HemelRog, Sunday, September 28, 05:29:11pm (5ec0f8a7.skybroadband.com/94.192.248.167)
- It's a hard one to read. Today and against Chelsea we seemed to fold under the weight of decisions we thought were unjust and couldn't come back once behind. But then again against Brighton, Man U and Brentford we showed real fortitude to come back from behind. Why is that? (NT) -- eganonoa, Sunday, September 28, 05:39:30pm (cable-146-255-156-96.dynamic.telemach.ba/146.255.156.96)
- He definitely needs to calm down of course it’s frustrating especially when the same ref who done us is managing another big game but that does trickle down to the squad but then again this team always struggles when up against it we need players like andersen lukic etc to step up and galvanise the team and for marco to keep a cool head and focus on how to get back into it instead of complaining constantly (NT) -- heartless, Sunday, September 28, 05:43:31pm (NoHost/45.137.77.41)
- Squad -- Leggers, Sunday, September 28, 05:24:21pm (NoHost/90.221.114.109)
So glad we had that outstanding transfer window, as a lot of supporters like to remind us, but it was only gong to take two or three injuries to fully expose that myth. Silva knew this, but a lot of our fans seem to think they know better. We could now go into the Bournemouth game without a recognised forward and if King gets injured a midfield severely lacking in pace and creativity.
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- Can't get a tune out of 36 million Smith Rowe. Lets be honest. Silva and Fulham are each other ceilings. We will never progress further with him at the helm. Likewise Silva is just not a top tier manager -- Mike, Sunday, September 28, 05:23:33pm (NoHost/109.76.157.137)
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- Let's be honest... -- Dave, Sunday, September 28, 05:08:45pm (82-132-230-111.dab.02.net/82.132.230.111)
It was like a training session for Villa in the second half. Marco has some serious work to do before Bournemouth.
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- Initial thoughts -- Henry1879, Sunday, September 28, 04:38:59pm (cpc113812-lea23-2-0-cust213.6-3.cable.virginm.net/86.26.216.214)
On one hand, surely that’s a penalty on king and how has that ref given it as a dive. As ever elite sport is fine margins (sorry Scott) and a decision there or a chance there and the whole game shifts.
On the other hand, we were feeble and silva just gets completely obsessed with the ref and injustice and we seem to lose focus. It is possible to recover from what we perceive as a poor decision and kick on and say, not today, we are the better team, let’s go and win this. We seem to almost feel sorry for ourselves, spend more time arguing with the ref rather than going to win the game.
This game was so winnable, you could tell from first minute villa are way down on confidence. So do what Palace, don’t give them freebies, keep it tight and there was so much space behind them the chances would come. Why are we playing that really high line, just getting done with simple balls over the top. Traore ok of course he should do better, but he is not a CF, never has been, never will be, he won’t see the game like a CF so inevitably he’s gonna get found out and get caught as he’s not ever used to receiving the ball back to goal. I get not having the young lad come on early when Raul got injured, but to not even have him in the squad, I don’t know, I get silva wants to mould players, but surely a promising youngster as a specialist CF is worth a bench spot.
Thought lukic was poor, it’s not like palhina getting round the pitch getting yellows after making a load of tackles, he just seems a yard slower than a lot of midfielders and has to drag them back, thought he was actually lucky to stay on the pitch. Iwobi didn’t impact at all, Anderson looked bad with open space without tete next to him, sess was ineffective, was too deep when we tried to play offside and subs had little to no impact, but by then the space for Kevin and chuck had gone and we just don’t have players to pick a pass from CM area against a now deep defending villa.
I’m incredibly frustrated because that game was there to win, a team totally devoid in confidence and we just roll over after a couple of things don’t go our way. Watkins not involved at all, so let’s push right up, leave loads of space in behind and make it easy.
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- Not having the other centre forward on the bench is close to criminal! (NT) -- Gary, Sunday, September 28, 04:41:26pm (host31-51-137-1.range31-51.btcentralplus.com/31.51.137.1)
- Really -- Bobby Moore (😳), Sunday, September 28, 05:09:24pm (cpc82881-enfi22-2-0-cust106.20-2.cable.virginm.net/77.99.225.107)
- Ref/VAR do their jobs, 2-0 and keeper sent off (NT) -- al, Sunday, September 28, 05:16:47pm (cust-141-195-136-26.jurassic-fibre.net/141.195.136.26)
- Agree with all of that, Henry, good post 👍🏼 (NT) -- Spencer, Sunday, September 28, 05:24:00pm (NoHost/90.210.37.134)
- Good post. Not much to add apart from saying when it was obvious they were targeting our ageing and slow right hand side 2 defenders Silva did zilch. Plus accentuating your point Lukic on a yellow contributes nothing defensively. Again obvious but no change. (NT) -- WayneKerrins, Sunday, September 28, 11:57:20pm (host81-135-83-48.range81-135.btcentralplus.com/81.135.83.48)
- Live by the sword, die by the sword -- eganonoa, Sunday, September 28, 04:26:23pm (cable-146-255-156-96.dynamic.telemach.ba/146.255.156.96)
We played it open on a large pitch. Could easily have scored three or more but for some poor luck for King and Lukic (handball and clearance off the line) and a desire for both of them to take that extra touch before shooting.
We didn't lose because Adama came on to play in an unfamiliar position. Or because of Berge and Lukic (some frankly bizarre statements about them below, such as Berge always giving the ball away). Or because goals from Muniz and Raul and Muniz, 36 PL goals combined the last two seasons, are "collectors' items" (that one must be the most bizarre statement of them all). We didn't lose because of some gigantic failure in our summer business that would've fixed everything if only we had bought a million and one players.
We lost largely because we played away from home and played it open and didn't get the rub of the green on a couple of chances. Then we were far too susceptible to the simple ball over the top or through behind. Andersen's lack of pace was exposed with his protector Tete out. As simple as that really.
Not exactly a big deal. And not exactly something that our summer business could've fixed. We're going to lose sometimes. It is what it is.
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- We lost today because of managerial decisions made before and during the game. (NT) -- Cutler 22, Sunday, September 28, 04:31:17pm (NoHost/150.228.63.180)
- This is a statement on behalf of Fulham Football Club (NT) -- Ffc, Sunday, September 28, 04:31:43pm (97e02c8e.skybroadband.com/151.224.44.142)
- Not to disagree with much of this (though Adama wouldn’t have been my first choice as stand-in CF), but the 2 quick goals notwithstanding it was disappointing how rapidly any belief that we could get back into the game evaporated. There was still a long time to go and Villa are by no means impregnable. Even the manager looked as though the contest was over from his perspective. (NT) -- Bexhill Beast, Sunday, September 28, 04:35:49pm (host81-141-130-38.range81-141.btcentralplus.com/81.141.130.38)
- What's so puzzling, is why Silva had no backup striker, as Muniz was injured, he didn't out Jonah on the bench. Especially as Jimenez nearluy always gets subbed around the 60 minute mark. I don't think he could have done any worst than Traore, plus he has the height for the cross balls. (NT) -- MWKent, Sunday, September 28, 04:35:52pm (host-80-46-1-168.as13285.net/80.46.1.168)
- Some I agree with, but who from our team had a good game? Who do I go away thinking, yeh he gave an 8 out of 10 performance? It’s not hindsight, I posted before the game, keep it tight, gove no freebies, palace showed how to do it last week, villa are shot confidence wise, can’t score goals, so we decide to make it easy for them, I put a lot of today down to silva. (NT) -- Henry1879, Sunday, September 28, 04:42:45pm (cpc113812-lea23-2-0-cust213.6-3.cable.virginm.net/86.26.216.214)
- Yes I agree with much of that, and would add that I wonder whether Silva had the right head going into the dressing room at half time? Emmery was bound to make changes to nullify King's contribution to the game. He was also bound to make changes to the way Villa used the ball moving forward. Silva neither anticipated this or was able to react quick enough to thier second goal. (NT) -- Mr Kurkuruza, Sunday, September 28, 04:45:43pm (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
- I was literally just writing that very same thing about Marco's head going into the dressing room in response to Henry! Very much agree that could've been an issue. Out thought at half time and then had no response to them just firing those simple balls into the gap. (NT) -- eganonoa, Sunday, September 28, 04:50:58pm (cable-146-255-156-96.dynamic.telemach.ba/146.255.156.96)
- I genuinely wonder sometimes if silva is able to refocus, make good and level headed football decisions as he spends most of the game berating the ref. I get that he had reasons to do, but in no way does it help our cause, the officials hate it and will if anything side against us even further and there’s no point, it’s gone, use that energy to try and win the game. (NT) -- Henry1879, Sunday, September 28, 04:51:36pm (cpc113812-lea23-2-0-cust213.6-3.cable.virginm.net/86.26.216.214)
- So what are you saying? That on big pitches we park the bus and hope for the rub of the green? IMO, Traore was a mystifying sub for Raul. Why not ESR (taller & better technically than Traore. Or Kevin as more gifted and a more likely penalty winner. On Tuesday, the "defender" who pocketed Traore was actually listed as an attacker! We lack creativity in midfield or better alternatives, and Berge and Anderson don’t have the pace to recover when we are chasing the game and lose the ball. (NT) -- Barry@ENF, Sunday, September 28, 04:55:47pm (NoHost/90.243.173.88)
- Today -- Ffc, Sunday, September 28, 04:10:19pm (97e02c8e.skybroadband.com/151.224.44.142)
Miss numerous chances first half …unlucky with the King penalty decision but that second half was woeful.
Our midfield is so devoid of creativity, pace, we are so slow all around the pitch
Berge ? Never scores gives the ball away time & time again him and Lukic play the simple ball all the time never take a chance.
Adama why ? Stealing a living ..we needed a second half of blood & guts and we got a lesson in walking football.
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- How unlucky can we be? -- Alboy, Sunday, September 28, 04:07:58pm (host5-80-175-253.range5-80.btcentralplus.com/5.80.175.253)
Go ahead with a great goal and then Jiminez goes off injured. Traore not good enough to play there. Definitely penalty against Josh King ridiculous decisions going against us once more. Poor start to the second half cost us the game sadly. We were so much the better side in the first half Josh King outstanding. Even then Lukic should have got a second which would have made for an interesting last twenty minutes. We had noone in the box and ran out of ideas. Real shame a game we should have won. Lacking strikers cost us.
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- Summer business -- Samuel, Sunday, September 28, 04:04:35pm (NoHost/81.78.165.24)
A starting central midfielder and striker should have been our summer priorities. It was clearly our weak positions.
Berge and Lukic put in a shift but neither are of sufficient quality to push us to the next level. And it's a collectors item when Raul or Muniz scores a goal.
We need to give the young Bayern striker a chance. Otherwise, what was the point.
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- We were probably offered him v late in the window , but in the knowledge he had no chance of making our PL Matchday Squad. As for CM, that was one of Silva ‘s key targets and we even had one ( KDH) willing to join us. But noooo, 2 wingers at the last hour both of whom would’ve made greater impact had they been brought in earlier . Anyway today showed we just cannot handle a press and players running at us . Oh and cheap as chips Traore still underperforming for us 2 seasons down the line . (NT) -- Mickey, Sunday, September 28, 04:10:40pm (host86-159-177-162.range86-159.btcentralplus.com/86.159.177.162)
- We always needed a striker and we needed wide players with an eye for goals, unfortunately we got neither. 2 wingers we signed average about 5 a season in inferior leagues (NT) -- Waterboy, Sunday, September 28, 04:13:37pm (NoHost/83.105.95.124)
- You're right about Lukic. A real liability. Can't think of anything constructive that he does. Can't run, too slow, can't pass the ball more than 5 yards, can't finish. Took a decent corner for the goal, but his free kicks are woeful. Need an upgrade on him (NT) -- Wayne, Sunday, September 28, 04:58:56pm (host31-52-136-39.range31-52.btcentralplus.com/31.52.136.39)
- Are we a better side now versus January of last season? Same players, same coach, but what about the performances? -- RR, Sunday, September 28, 04:04:25pm (NoHost/104.220.143.92)
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- Lack of strikers -- View from the Riverside, Sunday, September 28, 03:58:44pm (NoHost/78.143.161.23)
Why did we sign a striker on deadline day, who three weeks later isn't fit enough to even make the subs bench? Now we are in a real spot. If we start with that useless lump Adama up front against Bournemouth, lets give them the points now and save us a train ride. I don't understand the logic around our transfers.
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- Lukic what is the point he is awful two easy finishes he isn’t good enough he runs around and collects yellow cards . He is shite -- Button, Sunday, September 28, 03:58:33pm (nmal-23-b2-v4wan-169190-cust1261.vm24.cable.virginm.net/80.5.116.238)
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- Chuckes in town.. -- ,, Sunday, September 28, 03:46:20pm (NoHost/23.90.184.21)
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- Some sense of urgency would be nice,, -- Just saying, Sunday, September 28, 03:39:59pm (NoHost/23.90.184.21)
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- Traore -- Malc, Sunday, September 28, 03:33:01pm (NoHost/2.220.96.81)
How bad must Kevin be to be behind Traore !!!
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- Traore say no more .Subs Marco now -- CB, Sunday, September 28, 03:26:00pm (213-18-177-192.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.177.192)
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- Why awobi off??? (NT) -- CB, Sunday, September 28, 03:32:06pm (213-18-177-192.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.177.192)
- I don't understand how he gets minutes... Shouldn't even be making the bench (NT) -- P, Sunday, September 28, 03:36:55pm (NoHost/84.65.100.166)
- He's taken off King and Iwobi and left that pratt Traore on the pitch. His weak awful play caused the first goal. I bet he goes home each day and looks in the mirror admiring his physic, he may be muscle bound but no strength. (NT) -- MWKent, Sunday, September 28, 03:37:24pm (host-80-46-1-168.as13285.net/80.46.1.168)
- Utter weak mentality by us complete bottle jobs can’t withstand a bit of pressure -- Button, Sunday, September 28, 03:25:11pm (nmal-23-b2-v4wan-169190-cust1261.vm24.cable.virginm.net/80.5.116.238)
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- Hook off Adama and get Kevin on -- ,, Sunday, September 28, 03:18:56pm (NoHost/23.90.184.21)
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- Adama T - what is the point? -- View from the Riverside, Sunday, September 28, 03:17:04pm (NoHost/78.143.161.23)
Traore is stealing a living. I say it every time he plays any amoount of time. Was useless against Cambridge. Does not work enough, for someone so big he is weak with his hold up play, Just get rid of him this week.. crap
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- Adama 🤷🏻♂️. What’s the F**king point -- Ffc, Sunday, September 28, 03:15:56pm (97e02c8e.skybroadband.com/151.224.44.142)
Closely followed by Berge
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- We need to be stronger and more streetwise appalling goal to concede but now replay has been shown to see if Watkins was onside very strange -- Button, Sunday, September 28, 03:06:12pm (nmal-23-b2-v4wan-169190-cust1261.vm24.cable.virginm.net/80.5.116.238)
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- WTF is this Ref on? -- Al, Sunday, September 28, 03:06:12pm (cust-141-195-136-26.jurassic-fibre.net/141.195.136.26)
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- Two blatant penalties not given king gets take out and cash hand is away from his body and if it doesn’t hit his hand it’s a goal . Disgrace VaR is shocking -- Button, Sunday, September 28, 03:04:01pm (nmal-23-b2-v4wan-169190-cust1261.vm24.cable.virginm.net/80.5.116.238)
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- Be surprised if Lukic is still on the pitch by the end.. -- ,, Sunday, September 28, 02:54:12pm (NoHost/23.90.184.21)
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- Was thinking the same. Trying to do too much at times. (NT) -- Bexhill Beast, Sunday, September 28, 02:56:03pm (host81-141-130-38.range81-141.btcentralplus.com/81.141.130.38)
- Yes it does have that feeling? (NT) -- Gary, Sunday, September 28, 02:57:51pm (host31-51-137-1.range31-51.btcentralplus.com/31.51.137.1)
- Yeah Marco needs to calm things down (including himself) (NT) -- eganonoa, Sunday, September 28, 03:02:09pm (cable-146-255-156-96.dynamic.telemach.ba/146.255.156.96)
- Lukic & Berge Offer nothing …..no goals …. Constantly give the ball away rubbish (NT) -- Ffc, Sunday, September 28, 03:21:52pm (97e02c8e.skybroadband.com/151.224.44.142)
- Lukic has one more match, then he can take a compulsory game off through suspension. (NT) -- MWKent, Sunday, September 28, 05:04:49pm (host-80-46-1-168.as13285.net/80.46.1.168)
- What an absolute shit show of a goal to give away -- Ffc, Sunday, September 28, 02:39:52pm (97e02c8e.skybroadband.com/151.224.44.142)
We should be 3 up FFS
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- Harvey Elliott... -- Travelex, Sunday, September 28, 01:09:48pm (host86-162-117-51.range86-162.btcentralplus.com/86.162.117.51)
...is starting. Nobody say a word please...!
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- No Tete or Muniz in the squad are they injured 🤔 -- Button Moon with Mr Spoon, Sunday, September 28, 01:03:40pm (nmal-23-b2-v4wan-169190-cust1261.vm24.cable.virginm.net/80.5.116.238)
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- So Raul will need to play the 90 minutes (NT) -- Al, Sunday, September 28, 01:05:37pm (cust-141-195-136-26.jurassic-fibre.net/141.195.136.26)
- Must be injuries. Castagne with Wilson is a better combination going forward if you ask me because you get true width with Castagne allowing Wilson inside. But Andersen's lack pace is going to be more exposed with Tete backing him. I'd expect to see Berge very withdrawn today to compensate somewhat. If Raul can't make it the whole 90+ mins, I'd expect to see Chuckwueze or Adama replace. Always wanted to see Adama at No. 9. Can't score, but could terrorize. (NT) -- eganonoa, Sunday, September 28, 01:19:16pm (cable-146-255-156-96.dynamic.telemach.ba/146.255.156.96)
- I guess our new young striker must be unfit as well! (NT) -- Juan, Sunday, September 28, 03:03:03pm (NoHost/2.126.131.43)
- Today and VAR bias -- Henry1879, Sunday, September 28, 12:05:35pm (cpc113812-lea23-2-0-cust213.6-3.cable.virginm.net/86.26.216.214)
Today can’t see many changes, aim of the game will be to keep things solid, villa are a team that fills the middle and relies on width from full backs. Watkins looks really out of sorts and tielemans is a huge miss, that ability to find passes to the forward players. Only one id consider is ESR for king, although really don’t mind either way. Have the pace and power on rhe bench ready for second half.
Also just like to make a point for way of balance about VAR, I cannot see how Brentford didn’t get a red card when Utd won their penalty. I do think st times ref will almost sub consciously have a bias to certain players or teams due to their reputation and perception, Wayne barnes talked about this with the all blacks in rugby union. But whilst we love to highlight the ‘bias’ towards the supposed big clubs, there are plenty of times it goes the other way and actually it’s just incompetence.
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- Likely the same team, which means once again it'll fall to how well Wilson is supported to provide width. Andersen the key. If we're worried he'll get beaten by pace Tete will shadow him, Wilson will be isolated, and they can squeeze us on the left. Then a quick switch from Wilson to Adama would be needed for real width. On VAR I believe there's some big club bias, but also higher frequency of chances = more VAR reviews, which then favours more successful sides (which currently Man U aren't). (NT) -- eganonoa, Sunday, September 28, 12:49:51pm (cable-146-255-156-96.dynamic.telemach.ba/146.255.156.96)
- Hopefully OG keeps up his good run (NT) -- Waterboy, Sunday, September 28, 12:51:11pm (NoHost/83.105.95.124)
- Could Cuenca,the next João Palhinha -- Al, Sunday, September 28, 11:28:44am (cust-141-195-136-26.jurassic-fibre.net/141.195.136.26)
Watching him the other night he can certainly tackle as well as Palhinha and runs well with the ball.Willing to shoot as well. IMHO ideal when Lukic serves his frequent suspensions.
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- NFR 45th Ryder Cup. -- New York New York., Sunday, September 28, 11:24:19am (host-2-102-161-56.as13285.net/2.102.161.56)
Great performance so far from GB & Europe. Barring a Complete meltdown. The Trophy remaining this side of the Atlantic.The USA team have only themselves to blame deliberately diluting a notoriously tough Golf Course to a Chipping and Putting competition in which they’ve been completely outplayed.
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- Battle for Survival. -- Don’t tell him Pike., Sunday, September 28, 11:01:06am (host-2-102-161-56.as13285.net/2.102.161.56)
Certainly looking like a few established clubs in the Premier League maybe having a good look over their shoulders this season. (Relegation wise) Taking nothing for granted with us this Season.Personally we should have enough quality for Mid Table stability hopefully steering clear of more than the normal amount of injuries. Finding it difficult to name 3 Clubs for Relegation though. Any ideas?
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- Should be tight, id say based on his previous 2 attempts Burnley should go down. Wolves haven't looked great but they aren't miles behind yet (NT) -- Waterboy, Sunday, September 28, 11:08:35am (NoHost/83.105.95.124)
- My prediction: Sunderland will stay up. Very impressed with them, and that Xhaka signing was ridiculous (no idea how they got him). Burnley and Leeds will drop. Wolves, Brentford and West Ham will battle for that last relegation place, probably falling to Wolves. Forest and Man U will finish above them but it will remain uncomfortable for them. It will be comfortable for everyone else, including Villa who start the turnaround today. Somewhere between 7th and 13th for us. (NT) -- eganonoa, Sunday, September 28, 11:17:56am (cable-146-255-156-96.dynamic.telemach.ba/146.255.156.96)
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Scott Parker -- JoeT, Sunday, September 28, 12:09:17am (cpc96906-walt25-2-0-cust362.13-2.cable.virginm.net/82.13.233.107)
Quote of the week: Scott just said in his post match interview 'fine margins' to try to excuse his side's 5-1 beating
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- Palhinha -- Samuel, Saturday, September 27, 10:25:48pm (NoHost/81.78.165.24)
Quite strange how he couldn't get in the Bayern side. Scored 3 goals already this season.
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- Bayern always dominated the ball as they are the best team in Germany. You don't need hard tackling ball winners in a team like that. His transfer never worked out but back in English football he has re-emerged. (NT) -- JoeT, Sunday, September 28, 12:14:09am (cpc96906-walt25-2-0-cust362.13-2.cable.virginm.net/82.13.233.107)
- Re: Palhinha.. mods keep up. Your man João did cheat on his wife. It's all over the sky sport news. Subscribe and reid? (NT) -- Chill ten lad, Sunday, September 28, 09:05:27am (ip-217-65-132-45.ptr.icomera.net/217.65.134.45)
- Problem with palhina, as above, when you dominate the ball you need people to pick a pass and find attacking players quickly as teams will normally sit deep against you. That’s why Bayern didn’t pick him and why spurs took him off at HT game before. He’s great against a city who’ll come at you, but spurs will have a lot of games this season that teams will sit deep and wait and he’ll struggle a bit, it’s similar problem to what we often have if teams sit in against us. (NT) -- Henry1879, Sunday, September 28, 09:24:41am (cpc113812-lea23-2-0-cust213.6-3.cable.virginm.net/86.26.216.214)
- Re: Palhinha (NT) -- Same with Portugal he struggles when picked, Sunday, September 28, 10:09:06am (host-2-102-161-56.as13285.net/2.102.161.56)
- Marco doing a great job! -- Alboy, Saturday, September 27, 07:59:24pm (host5-80-175-253.range5-80.btcentralplus.com/5.80.175.253)
Looking forward to an exciting game tomorrow. It will be difficult as away games always are in the Premiership. He see s to have built a great camaraderie in the squad. We have a strong squad and it will be interesting to see who starts tomorrow. Hopefully we can secure a third consecutive win. COYW
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- Villa -- Sutton FFC, Saturday, September 27, 07:42:51pm (NoHost/2.221.219.243)
Heading up to villa tomorrow morning. Any idea how many we sold. COYW
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- Re: Vill1500 (NT) -- Mitchell75, Saturday, September 27, 10:08:27pm (host-80-42-15-60.as13285.net/80.42.15.60)
- Sold out bottom tier, 1600. (NT) -- Sean, Saturday, September 27, 10:43:52pm (cpc159747-finc22-2-0-cust115.4-2.cable.virginm.net/81.108.184.116)
- Took the top tier off sale with nearly 3 weeks to go. Not sure Villa will sell those for the visit of us. Maybe should relax the no returns (NT) -- TSW, Sunday, September 28, 09:06:22am (NoHost/31.94.32.168)
- So Nuno to WHU -- Mickey, Saturday, September 27, 02:45:27pm (82-132-232-227.dab.02.net/82.132.232.227)
Quite probably engineered by an approach followed by him coming out with random negative comments about his relationship
with Mr Marinakis , let alone questionable omission of Edu’s players .
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- Frustrating for a Manager getting players he does not want. Overloaded in midfield currently and you wonder about their wage bill. Probably glad to see the back of the Chairman but a real poison chalice at West Ham. (NT) -- Going, Saturday, September 27, 05:04:21pm (host31-53-230-27.range31-53.btcentralplus.com/31.53.230.27)
- With Marco playing up can’t help wonder if West Ham anticipated us making enquiries for Nuno .Is Marco trying to get the sack (NT) -- alanos, Saturday, September 27, 05:11:41pm (82-132-215-108.dab.02.net/82.132.215.108)
- I would love to see Marco get success as long as it's not at our expense. Once he leaves that is. Not wishing it on Alboy!! (NT) -- CB, Saturday, September 27, 06:29:40pm (213-18-177-192.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.177.192)
- Decision-making at your second (first?) club isn't looking so hot right now. 5 matches winless so far. Nothing much coming from all those Edu-signed players. Nuno with a big chance to show how much of their success was down to him, not the chaotic management of the club. (NT) -- eganonoa, Saturday, September 27, 07:29:34pm (cable-146-255-156-96.dynamic.telemach.ba/146.255.156.96)
- I Did say at the time in here that the appt of Ange was a huge mistake ; perhaps they wanted a ‘Yes Man’ to never question their DoF and his signings. How many of us though would turn down many of their summer acquisitions ; ie McAtee , Luiz and Hutchinson and even Bakwa, Jesus and Ndoye ? Let’s see how long Ange is tolerated , but no question the power struggle between Nuno and Edu was the catalyst for the dismissal . But I repeat , an absolutely horrendous appointment by Marinakis (NT) -- Mickey, Saturday, September 27, 07:57:11pm (host86-159-177-162.range86-159.btcentralplus.com/86.159.177.162)
- The "catalyst" wasn't the "power struggle between Nuno and Edu"; it was the mismanagement of your Marinakis who created the mess. We've learnt well from our past that big-bang summers are dangerous. If ever there was a vindication of our slow-and-steady, give as much as we can but not as much as everyone wants, approach, this is it. Reckon it might be time for you to re-evaluate what makes a good owner. A good owner learns and adapts. Ours have. This guy will be gone soon enough. (NT) -- eganonoa, Saturday, September 27, 08:56:38pm (cable-146-255-156-96.dynamic.telemach.ba/146.255.156.96)
- "an absolutely horrendous appointment by Marinakis". Yes, just like the appointment of Steve Cooper. Marinakis isn't the Messiah, he's an overly passionate, dodgy gangster of a football club owner. (NT) -- Mr Kurkuruza, Saturday, September 27, 09:42:47pm (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
- What happened to the "Mr" Marakanis? You are nothing but a disgusting turd with a fat, Mediterranean crook fetish. Why don't you just top yourself now? (NT) -- You repulsive slimeball., Sunday, September 28, 12:35:42am (NoHost/213.207.130.40)
- Well Mickey zero relegations so far! Skippy looks a brilliant Manager three defeats in a row in the Prem. (NT) -- Going, Saturday, September 27, 09:32:07pm (host31-53-230-27.range31-53.btcentralplus.com/31.53.230.27)
- Ruben Amorim -- Samuel, Saturday, September 27, 02:32:45pm (NoHost/90.249.45.189)
Will almost certainly get his P45 next week, if not sooner. Brentford are awful.
Could be both Westham and United looking for a new manager.
United being the obvious concern for us.
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- Loupalo-Bi... -- p, Saturday, September 27, 10:13:03am (NoHost/90.213.242.75)
When's this kid going to get his first team chance? Top scorer in Premier League Two1 with five goals in four games!
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- Silva on Kevin (via Jack Kelly on X) -- p, Friday, September 26, 01:56:48pm (NoHost/90.213.242.75)
Silva on team news: "So far, all the players are okay. We will keep assessing. Kevin trained today, there's a chance he's in contention, but we have another session tomorrow."
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- Play him from start, he's ok only a shoulder bruise. But great excuse not to. Look fwd to day we start with best 11 on the books. (NT) -- CB, Friday, September 26, 06:04:22pm (213-18-177-192.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.177.192)
- I think we can expect an unchanged starting line up from last Sat, tbh . Will be pleasantly surprised if Kevin is on the bench and more so should Chukwueze somehow feature . 2 exciting wingers still feeling their way into the squad and what Silva will demand from them . Fortunately Iwobi and Wilson both looked sharp last week , and elsewhere Sess currently seems the better choice over Robinson who is understandably still to reach his previous levels . (NT) -- Mickey, Friday, September 26, 06:47:34pm (82-132-232-227.dab.02.net/82.132.232.227)
- Like Samuel , CB is either an idiot or a patsy / stand in for the Eganonoa tribe . Marco knows that if we played him we wouldn’t have our best players on the field . Since he strong armed the club into spaffing £40m euros on this dubious 22 year old , could get embarrassing . (NT) -- alanos, Saturday, September 27, 01:06:21am (82-132-212-53.dab.02.net/82.132.212.53)
- From what I have seen, Cash and McGinn are their best attacking options and they are both on the right so we need a very strong left side to keep them pegged back. If Kevin plays, we have to have someone covering him, especially should he lose the ball to either of these two! (NT) -- Ted White, Friday, September 26, 11:13:21pm (host217-45-67-37.range217-45.btcentralplus.com/217.45.67.37)
- Strong bench pushes starters. Provides options. Confuses opposition. (NT) -- Eerwah, Saturday, September 27, 12:18:29am (customer.brseaus1.pop.starlinkisp.net/65.181.3.235)
- Save him for the Wycombe game. If he’s fit play him. How’s he meant to bed himself in. (NT) -- Hodds Sutton, Saturday, September 27, 09:32:59am (82-132-234-105.dab.02.net/82.132.234.105)
- FST Minutes/PA System -- f bloke, Thursday, September 25, 04:46:54pm (NoHost/2.216.25.231)
Saw in the FST minutes that the idea that the volume of the PA system be turned down was given short shrift by the club and that currently they think the system is both balanced and satisfies the majority of the fans. Would be interested to know what research they do to reach this view. From my perspective - the PA system is so loud it is v difficult to have a conversation with friends and near neighbours before the game and at half time. Those conversations are way more important to me than anything blasted over the PA system - I accept the need for information eg team sheets to be communicated but the rest is just an irritant and for me impacts upon the enjoyment of the occasion. I know they say 'if its too loud, you're too old' - so maybe I am just too old - but am I alone in finding the PA system way too intrusive?
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- Ever since i remember it’s always been a nightmare. Ok if your having your pre meal lunch in your executive box but if you’re trying to take in the pre match atmosphere it basically ruins it (NT) -- Hodds, Thursday, September 25, 05:29:22pm (croy-25-b2-v4wan-169464-cust2015.vm24.cable.virginm.net/92.236.39.224)
- Absolutely agree! (NT) -- Travelex, Thursday, September 25, 06:45:40pm (host86-162-117-51.range86-162.btcentralplus.com/86.162.117.51)
- Honestly, it's fine where I sit, but know plenty of others that sit further back in the same stand who say its a nightmare. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Friday, September 26, 08:30:10am (NoHost/84.66.6.179)
- It's the same at away games as well... I don't know if there is some sort of safety regulation around the volume ? (NT) -- GTS, Friday, September 26, 09:33:22am (24.206.97.75.netskope-rdns.com/24.206.97.75)
- Shouldn't there be more of a debate on how dull half time entertain actually is! (NT) -- Waterboy, Friday, September 26, 09:46:53am (NoHost/83.105.95.124)
- Back 20 years, my birth town club Barnet were sposored by JBL speakers. JBL installed speakers all around Underhill stadium. Barnet run out to 'Sweet Child of Mine' and it was so loud I couldn't hear what anyone was saying next to me, and my hearing was 20 years better back then. They might as well have played some banging techno as probably that was what the speakers were made for. (NT) -- Mr Kurkuruza, Friday, September 26, 10:41:54am (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
- Agree absolutely with the original post, the PA is far too intrusive. Also, I think if they want the crowd to do more singing - and it seems that they do - I believe the booming music discourages this and makes us a passive crowd. "It's not my job to make the noise, it's the PA's responsibility." (NT) -- Give us room to sing, Friday, September 26, 11:11:49am (NoHost/191.101.157.118)
- Newcastle away -- Jimbo, Thursday, September 25, 04:23:22pm (2e418116.skybroadband.com/46.65.129.22)
Is it sold out? I can’t see any available seats when I log in to buy tickets. Anyone know?
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- They are for sale. Just seen them. (NT) -- Hammersmithender, Thursday, September 25, 07:39:15pm (NoHost/31.94.14.145)
- Engineering works between Darlington and Doncaster nightmare journey no thanks (NT) -- Button, Thursday, September 25, 08:14:52pm (nmal-23-b2-v4wan-169190-cust1261.vm24.cable.virginm.net/80.5.116.238)
- blimey I hope not I didn't even realise anything had been announced for it (NT) -- Same Old Story, Friday, September 26, 08:31:42am (NoHost/84.66.6.179)
- Just been on to get mine - i reckon about 200 left, so jump in quick (NT) -- Same Old Story, Friday, September 26, 09:43:01am (NoHost/84.66.6.179)
- I've bought a ticket for this match. I've heard the away section is 'up in the gods'. Do you feel detached from the action up there? It's going to be the other end of the scale from watching Fulham at Bournemouth. (NT) -- Mr Kurkuruza, Friday, September 26, 10:57:04am (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
- I'm driving up for this one and staying in Durham. I think I lost my mind (NT) -- Karl Marx, Friday, September 26, 12:11:27pm (cpc159747-finc22-2-0-cust115.4-2.cable.virginm.net/81.108.184.116)
- The Kusi-Asare Question…. -- Mickey, Thursday, September 25, 08:10:38am (host86-159-177-162.range86-159.btcentralplus.com/86.159.177.162)
Was listening to Jack Kelly on the Green Pole Podcast and he said when asked Silva told him that Jonah was ‘not the profile of striker we were looking for ‘. There was a suggestion from the Boys that he might instead be used for the U21s, but coupled with Silva’s other comment that ‘he wasn’t ready to help us jyet ‘ , might explain his omission from involvement the other night , even against league 2 opposition .
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- As ego has always said, silva never uses a 3rd CF, I’ve never understood the clamour for a 3rd CF. Silva, like most modern coaches, wants structure & control, he wants everyone to know where they’ll be and what decisions they’ll make defensively & offensively so we don’t have a weak link, clearly Johan hasn’t had time to understand that. Imagine if he’d done the wrong thing at a corner, Cambridge score and we lose on pens. (NT) -- Henry1879, Thursday, September 25, 08:38:34am (82-132-221-106.dab.02.net/82.132.221.106)
- Look at Esse at CP, barely played and got hooked HT in cup, glasner won’t pick him for ages as he didn’t do what he was instructed. Jonah has barely played mens football, let alone English men’s football, we were only 1-0 up, lose that and that’s 50% of our possible comp wins gone. Anything he does this season is a bonus, I’d suggest it’s more a fee to see him up close rather than be a big player this season, unless we get injuries, a lot of the time he won’t even make the bench. (NT) -- Henry1879, Thursday, September 25, 08:43:43am (82-132-221-106.dab.02.net/82.132.221.106)
- I actually agree with what you say, but surely this shows a complete disconnect between board and manager on transfers? Why on earth would we waste funds (which are limited) on a player who we can't use (NT) -- Same Old Story, Thursday, September 25, 09:22:08am (NoHost/84.66.6.179)
- Complete? Are you saying that the Kevin and Chukwuese signings are not Marco endorsed? And even if the young striker was a Tony pick, should he always buy overpaid, older players who will not have any significant sell on value? (NT) -- Mr Kurkuruza, Thursday, September 25, 09:48:55am (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
- 'Complete' probably an exagerration, but not really the point of my post, is it? Clearly Silva unhappy with the timing of signings, didn't get the midfielder he wanted, didn't get a striker he can use (apparently). Who knows on Kevin and Chuckwuese? And no i'm not suggesting your second sentence at all, if you've ever read anything i've ever said about our transfer strategy you'd know that. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Thursday, September 25, 09:58:09am (NoHost/84.66.6.179)
- Which is why I thought your post was odd. If your 3rd striker instead of midfielder theory (i considerd this too) is at the core of any Marco grumblings, then my interest is in finding out TK's reasoning and rationale, and not with the fact that there might be any conflict itself. Sometimes those who hold the purse, get to decide what the money is spent on. (NT) -- Mr Kurkuruza, Thursday, September 25, 10:09:28am (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
- Why do you say who knows on Kevin . He is clearly here on Silva’s insistence , as you know . It would be embarrassing if the 18 year old from Bayern turned out great and Kevin not so much , wouldn’t it . (NT) -- alanos, Thursday, September 25, 10:51:26am (82-132-215-10.dab.02.net/82.132.215.10)
- It doesn't sound like Marco has any motivation to make that happen. I hope that's not the reality though because it would be a terrible waste of a young man's potential, just over an argument about power and control. (NT) -- Mr Kurkuruza, Thursday, September 25, 11:46:44am (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
- Just so you're aware, i completely disregard any of your posts as they are increasingly delusional and i'm not even convinced you can keep up with the web of intricate conspiracy you've tried to create, but repeatedly had to alter or backtrack on when you've repeatedly been proved wrong, so will not be responding to your posts at all. Just to save you time in the future. (NT) -- Same Old Story, Thursday, September 25, 12:15:16pm (NoHost/84.66.6.179)
- Could be someone with high potential at the price, loan gives us a cheap trial run (3m euros is even in PSR land a small amount). Chelsea are brilliant sellers, often signing players as they’re a good price, often never play and sell for profit. Maybe we don’t want to spend big wages & a fee on a senior 3rd CF to barely play, but need safety net of a high quality youngster in case of emergency (multiple injuries), this was maybe a compromise. (NT) -- Henry1879, Thursday, September 25, 09:52:14am (cpc113812-lea23-2-0-cust213.6-3.cable.virginm.net/86.26.216.214)
- It might show a disconnect but some tension between board and manager is OK. Jack Kelly hinted this summer at a disagreement over the "profile" of players: Marco wanting prime-time ready, experienced players; a counter-pressure on youth. I'd put money on Marco's "profile" statement above meaning, he wanted Taremi or similar, the board gave him a kid. If so, tough luck Marco. He literally never plays the 3rd striker, and while I get he likes experience, we do need to try to develop players (NT) -- eganonoa, Thursday, September 25, 11:58:41am (NoHost/195.222.49.31)
- If Muniz has an injury it'll be interesting to see what Marco does because Raul can't play 90 minutes every game. If he's not ready and not what Marco wants then why on earth was he signed? Personally I'd like to see what Loupelo Bi can do in the first team because I suspect that he's both ready and good enough. (NT) -- The Man With No Name, Thursday, September 25, 08:41:44am (host86-153-245-237.range86-153.btcentralplus.com/86.153.245.237)
- Power play between owners and Silva , who sees it as in his interest to control ins and outs . If they forced him to take him on this could represent battle of wills and say little about the players potential . (NT) -- alanos, Thursday, September 25, 08:56:17am (82-132-215-10.dab.02.net/82.132.215.10)
- It is surely a good thing everyone knows Marco isn’t interested in money . As his refusal of the Saudi offer suggests (NT) -- alanos, Thursday, September 25, 09:09:25am (82-132-215-10.dab.02.net/82.132.215.10)
- Because if that wasn’t the case it would be hard to make up the pay differential between here and Saudi (NT) -- alanos, Thursday, September 25, 09:16:27am (82-132-215-10.dab.02.net/82.132.215.10)
- The guy has never scored for Bayern so I doubt he would be thrown in a premier league game any time soon (NT) -- Waterboy, Thursday, September 25, 09:58:32am (NoHost/83.105.95.124)
- Wycombe -- Long termer, Thursday, September 25, 07:48:00am (host86-190-174-84.range86-190.btcentralplus.com/86.190.174.84)
I seem to recall us playing them the year we returned to the Premiership in the FA Cup, scrambled to a messy 2 -2 draw at their place, a late equaliser from Marlet? Won a bruising replay 1-0 at the Cottage with Hayles scoring. Could be wrong!
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- Coyw -- Greenpole, Wednesday, September 24, 11:44:00pm (82-132-232-13.dab.02.net/82.132.232.13)
Good cup team Wycombe always seen to show up every so often and get quite far. Cauley Woodrow just signed for them. Win this and we are 2 games from Wembley. Might be away to Wrexham next round need to take it seriously...
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- Yes I was there for that one. If I remember correctly Lucy's Piazon scored an excellent goal last time we played there 8 or 9 years ago. -- Wolfie Smith, Wednesday, September 24, 10:53:43pm (host86-165-51-112.range86-165.btcentralplus.com/86.165.51.112)
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- Away to Wycombe. Wembley here we come. COYW! -- Wolfie Smith, Wednesday, September 24, 10:28:05pm (host86-165-51-112.range86-165.btcentralplus.com/86.165.51.112)
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- Brilliant. I can vividly recall Steve Marlet's last-minute equaliser there.. (NT) -- JamieR, Wednesday, September 24, 10:39:14pm (232.173.6.51.dyn.plus.net/51.6.173.232)
- AFCON to f**k us again for the semis (NT) -- Calling it now, Wednesday, September 24, 11:13:17pm (cpc93828-hari18-2-0-cust1442.20-2.cable.virginm.net/77.101.229.163)
- Sid we win the tie at the Cottage when Louis Saha was kicked in the chops at the Putney End? I think that was a cup tie. (NT) -- Barry@ENF, Wednesday, September 24, 11:39:24pm (NoHost/90.243.173.88)
- Knocked em out of the fa cup 1-0 in replay after a 2-2 draw at Adams park. Lawrie Sanchez was their manager. 5th (!) time weve met in league cup, Fulham won 3 of the toes but they won in 2006 at cottage and ended up in semi final loss to mourinhos Chelsea. (NT) -- Greenpole, Wednesday, September 24, 11:56:51pm (82-132-232-13.dab.02.net/82.132.232.13)
- Old enough 2 remember Conroy from the half way line. (NT) -- FlitwickFulham, Thursday, September 25, 08:48:51am (flit-04-b2-v4wan-169180-cust2921.vm32.cable.virginm.net/81.96.171.106)
- Re: Away to Wycombe. Wembley here we come. COYW! (NT) -- Lost to them on pens manager was Martin O’Neil, Thursday, September 25, 09:24:42am (host-2-102-161-56.as13285.net/2.102.161.56)
- Wycombe away -- Travelex, Wednesday, September 24, 10:27:52pm (host86-162-117-51.range86-162.btcentralplus.com/86.162.117.51)
Could be a lot worse...
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- Carabao Cup highlights -- Block E, Wednesday, September 24, 09:19:13pm (host31-54-222-180.range31-54.btcentralplus.com/31.54.222.180)
Highlights of all 3rd round games, will be shown on ITV4 tomorrow (Thursday) lunchtime 11:45am - 12:45pm
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- Last night -- Alboy, Wednesday, September 24, 03:50:36pm (NoHost/148.252.146.52)
I have read everyone's comments and although it was far from exciting there are reasons. We played again and athletic fit side that had 11 men defending in there own half. The doubled up on our wide players and made it a difficult watch. The main thing is we won and progressed. Kevin will need time to adjust he is a young player and Marco is playing things perfectly with him. We had 11 players who had hardly ver played together and some because of lack of playing time are still trying to reach .watch fitness. We played the ball much more quickly second half and finally got the goal we needed. The plusses for me last night was a great cameo from Josh King when he came on and Cuenca who was excellent last night. Even Robinson showed he needs a little more time. In essence job done.
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- TOP SCORER -- Long Termer, Wednesday, September 24, 03:35:06pm (host86-190-174-84.range86-190.btcentralplus.com/86.190.174.84)
Including the EFL cup, i think own goals are now our top scorer!
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- Frustrating -- Jimmy Hill's Chin, Wednesday, September 24, 11:47:18am (5ec3f1fd.skybroadband.com/94.195.241.253)
I'm not normally one to have a go at Silva but felt he really missed a trick last night when he brought on Muniz. Couldn't he have gone with Kusi-Asare instead? A perfect game to introduce the new lad.
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- Glad to see our set piece coach is having a dramatic impact on our teams (NT) -- erm, Wednesday, September 24, 11:52:29am (host217-42-133-87.range217-42.btcentralplus.com/217.42.133.87)
- Have to agree , and if not last night then when ? (NT) -- Mickey, Wednesday, September 24, 11:52:30am (82-132-230-95.dab.02.net/82.132.230.95)
- is there much point investing much time in him though? if he is a star he is going back to Bayern (hasnt actually scored for them as yet either) (NT) -- Waterboy, Wednesday, September 24, 12:39:46pm (NoHost/83.105.95.124)
- Despite his constant requests for a third striker, Marco has never actually used them. In each season they get only fleeting minutes. It's one of the strangest parts of his management because he seems to insist on it as critically necessary. If we see as much of Kusi-Asare as we did Broja I'd be surprised even with a major injury or suspension. (NT) -- eganonoa, Wednesday, September 24, 01:10:01pm (NoHost/217.75.196.3)
- If we’d been 2 or 3 up maybe, but silva has shown (like most modern managers) they want structure and to get structure you need players who know what he wants and are well drilled in our tactics. Especially as league cup js straight to pens with a draw, I understand taking the safer option; given we are always only playing for 2 potential trophies. He’s barely played men’s football, as with king silva will give him minutes in drips and only when he feels he’s ready. (NT) -- Henry1879, Wednesday, September 24, 03:41:44pm (82-132-221-106.dab.02.net/82.132.221.106)
- The general standard of football is decreasing every season it appears. Everyone is scared to lose and the product is dull. Hard to criticise Arsendull as we're just as slow and crabby. Can't say I have the same excitement on match days as I used to. Is it age or is football eating itself? -- Bob, Wednesday, September 24, 09:05:06am (NoHost/90.202.19.161)
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- Totally agree this robotic passing, not taking anyone on…etc. we had such an exciting side in the Championship and afainst lower league opponents you would expect much more than the half hearted fare of last night. (NT) -- Boring, Wednesday, September 24, 09:39:40am (host86-179-225-181.range86-179.btcentralplus.com/86.179.225.181)
- I agree that both teams last night were, predominantly, set up not to concede. However, for Premier League teams if they choose to go 'gung-ho' from the off, get caught out and concede a goal, they then generally will face a much more difficult task so it does make complete sense to take a more pragmatic approach. To be fair, they never looked like they could actually score against us. Thought Diop and Cuenca looked very good! (NT) -- Mike T, Wednesday, September 24, 11:23:36am (NoHost/51.219.129.25)
- Wouldn’t say standard is decreasing, players are of a higher standard than ever, taking into account their athleticism and football ability. Game is so structured now, teams know if you stay in a good shape ifs so hard to break down and big chances come from when teams aren’t in shape. Coupled with huge value seen on set pieces, it’s defo detracting from entertainment value. Neville said it, micro management, data driven, lack of individual freedom is making it a poor watch at times. (NT) -- Henry1879, Wednesday, September 24, 11:46:42am (82-132-220-127.dab.02.net/82.132.220.127)
- I'd say not if your statistic of choice is goals scored? last season was the record number of goals scored in the PL. However if like me you remember fondly the sublime skills of someone like Mathew le Tissier, then yes the game has deteriorated because a player of his ilk would never play in the PL now, due to his lack of defensive ability. The modern game is far more athletic now. Think of stick some gave Berbetov on this very forum, just because he did not track back. (NT) -- Mr Kurkuruza, Wednesday, September 24, 12:20:24pm (217-155-46-35.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk/217.155.46.35)
- Game's gone. Add up the minutes so far this season you've actually ENJOYED. I'll wait (NT) -- Fkev, Wednesday, September 24, 01:32:55pm (ec2-52-16-179-80.eu-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com/52.16.179.80)
- Fair play Liam Bennett had Kevin and Chukwueze in his back pocket 👏👏👏 great performance from the young lad -- Button, Tuesday, September 23, 11:31:10pm (NoHost/85.255.236.75)
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- There was a moment in the first half, might have been him, Kevin tried his fancy step overs. He simply clawed the ball back with his studs and booted it upfield. Have to admit I found that bloody funny. (NT) -- bs, Wednesday, September 24, 12:10:03am (NoHost/2.126.51.142)
- Kevin has arrived on a showboating ticket; he probably feels under pressure to impress and excite with flicks and step overs. But Silva will coach that unnecessary exhibition football out of his game to make him a more direct, no nonsense attacker. Ronaldo was the same at first. (NT) -- Samuel, Wednesday, September 24, 12:36:42am (NoHost/90.249.45.189)
- Have to admit Bennett was mom. Played way above his theoretical level (NT) -- CB, Wednesday, September 24, 07:49:58am (213-18-177-192.customer.gigaclear.net/213.18.177.192)
- Kevin injured, going for a scan today! (NT) -- Juan, Wednesday, September 24, 08:09:54am (NoHost/2.126.131.43)
- Whilst he played well, he didn’t really, tbey always had 2 or sometimes 3 to try and counter the threat of Kevin, which left Traore with a bit more space against his man, but he was poor and didn’t make most of it. Chuk came on to our right side so was never up against Bennett. Games like tbis it’s about attitude and was impressed by kevin, always wanted the ball, did defensive work and seemed to enjoy physical side of it. (NT) -- Henry1879, Wednesday, September 24, 08:47:12am (82-132-220-127.dab.02.net/82.132.220.127)
- Cheeky bid in January, looked excellent, cant cost much. (NT) -- Al, Wednesday, September 24, 11:36:31am (cust-141-195-136-26.jurassic-fibre.net/141.195.136.26)
- You must be seething. Having to keep up the pretence that you're a Fulham supporter, given that your lot were so roundly beaten. Then you come on here with your back handed compliments. Just give it up, you said little Brentford supporter. (NT) -- Bus stop spotter, Wednesday, September 24, 11:40:24am (4e560976.skybroadband.com/78.86.9.118)
- Was at the game bored out of my brains by the lack of creativity and guile and enjoyed Bennett's nonsense performance (NT) -- Button Moon with Mr Spoon, Wednesday, September 24, 02:07:00pm (nmal-23-b2-v4wan-169190-cust1261.vm24.cable.virginm.net/80.5.116.238)
- The Priority tonight -- Mickey, Tuesday, September 23, 11:01:46pm (82-132-231-67.dab.02.net/82.132.231.67)
would’ve been to get through unscathed and with more minutes in those legs where necessary . These low block teams -whatever their division -will not make it easy for you and no question they executed their game plan as best they could , and in so doing frustrated us . Whilst PL starting places are the carrot , I still maintain that no one will be busting a gut to deliver the type of performance that will sway the Manager and in so
doing ‘over -exert ‘themselves and risk injury . I actually thought our play was not that dissimilar to recent home games in that we demonstrated again not having a CM prepared to run at the opposition with the ball at his feet ; King apart once he came on. So let’s rejoice in progressing and hope we can continue to build a winning momentum .
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- Spot on Mickey (NT) -- Spencer, Wednesday, September 24, 06:17:55am (4e560aa1.skybroadband.com/78.86.10.161)
- Yep - indeed. We were on a hiding to nothing easing players back in - especially Jedi - while looking to get the job done which we did - just. Never really looked like losing the game but pens could've been squeaky. Cambridge were never going to just roll over. (NT) -- Rupert, Wednesday, September 24, 08:13:00am (5ec142b4.skybroadband.com/94.193.66.180)
- i agree with most of that but.... we are a PL team and they are 70 place below us. Look at the book value of the two teams. We should be doing better than just hang on for a 1-0, especially when people pay to turn up. It's sport but also entertainment. I think too many were not at the races last night. Silva was not happy with their performance and said so in the presser. They need to improve and that cannot be sugar coated. (NT) -- View from the Riverside, Wednesday, September 24, 09:20:28am (static-84-9-58-207.vodafonexdsl.co.uk/84.9.58.207)
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Re: Fulham Pier not attracting enough footfall it seems....... noticed how theyve (ALREADY..its still summer??) yes alreidy. cut down the opening hours. NOW closing 8pm (was 11pm) evenings... where are all the chavs going to go now? (NT) -- Danagerous Dan, Thursday, October 02, 07:33:11am (ns5013203.ip-15-235-51.net/15.235.51.187)