Absolutely serious as it shows the absurdity of caring about player cost. In today's game there simply isn't anything like a "reserve". You need two players per position and to buy the best players possible for each in order to foster a competitive environment and minimize quality drop-off taking into account form, fitness and tactical need. It doesn't matter which one of those two players is performing best in any given moment, so long as both players can perform well when called upon. -- SW6.doc

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Date Posted: Friday, December 20, 03:48:13pm
Author: eganonoa
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Subject: Absolutely serious as it shows the absurdity of caring about player cost. In today's game there simply isn't anything like a "reserve". You need two players per position and to buy the best players possible for each in order to foster a competitive environment and minimize quality drop-off taking into account form, fitness and tactical need. It doesn't matter which one of those two players is performing best in any given moment, so long as both players can perform well when called upon.
In reply to: Hg 's message, "Is that a serious question? If Anderson who cost 25 million can’t get a game because he isn’t as good as what we already have, is that a waste of 25million? Yes of course it is. We didn’t spend that kind of money for a reserve. He was bought as a first choice player. Same for esr. You can’t spend 60 mil on two players who by your admission, make the team worse. Still time for them to improve though." on Friday, December 20, 03:29:30pm

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You don’t think we should care about cost? How can you assess if someone is good value without factoring in costs. Ok let’s do it your way. Forget the money and assess without it. Are they good signings, no they are worse than what we have. Anderson wouldn’t have been signed if tosin had of stayed. Doubt anyone wants to see him play ahead of diop either (NT) -- Hg, Friday, December 20, 04:09:02pm (cpc141402-brnt4-2-0-cust971.4-2.cable.virginm.net/86.9.199.204)
- That's correct. I don't think we can merely say "player x cost 25m" and decide. If player x cost 25m and player y is keeping him out despite player x performing at a decent level when called upon then cost really doesn't matter. Look at Castagne. Our most expensive full-back signing at 13.5m. Had a good season but lost his place to Tete. Is he a failure because he was more expensive than Tete but ended up not first choice? He's there when we need him. It's all that matters. (NT) -- eganonoa, Friday, December 20, 04:21:42pm (pool-108-18-149-21.washdc.fios.verizon.net/108.18.149.21)
  - If being a reserve/back up/ just incase player isn’t deemed as failure, when you was bought in on big money, to be a starter, then what is. What do you class as a failure. Because it’s obviously not being good enough for the first team, so either you think every player in the world is a success, or you judge it on another metric. (NT) -- Hg, Friday, December 20, 04:28:19pm (cpc141402-brnt4-2-0-cust971.4-2.cable.virginm.net/86.9.199.204)
    - Who is "a reserve/back up/ just incase player"!? Competition, causing every player to raise their game, is why we signed Castagne when we had Tete. It is why we signed Diop when we had Tosin. And on, and on. (NT) -- eganonoa, Friday, December 20, 04:37:57pm (pool-108-18-149-21.washdc.fios.verizon.net/108.18.149.21)

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