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• Halfway through the season and our striking duo are on pace for 18 PL goals between them, after contributing 16 last season. Not sure that's the glaring gap you're making out. We do need to plan for a time without Raul, so a young forward who can score from one of the wide forward areas makes the most sense to me (though even their our wide forwards are currently on pace for 24 goals, which is pretty good). I would really like to see more goals from central midfield. Hoping ESR provides that (NT) -- eganonoa, Tuesday, December 31, 11:47:13am (NoHost/172.56.79.111)
  • About 5-6 goals difference using the same maths (NT) -- FF, Tuesday, December 31, 02:36:25pm (82-132-215-92.dab.02.net/82.132.215.92)
    • Not sure I follow. We got 19 goals out of our two strikers in that last Mitro season, so only one more than we're on pace for now. Its a squad game and you need to factor in injuries, suspensions and rotation. If you're just extrapolating that one season, why not his 3 PL seasons with us? That would be 12 over 38 matches. (NT) -- eganonoa, Tuesday, December 31, 03:29:56pm (NoHost/172.56.74.134)

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• Europe beckons ! I reckon we’ll nail 2 BIG signings (both in key offensive roles) A sporting chance to nick a 5th or 6th spot in Europe. I’m sure Marco is on that particular case…..a place in Europe would be a huge incentive for him to stay with us. He’s not without ambition so let’s hope our decision makers back him. We really couldn’t have wished for an “easier” next 10 fixtures. 20 pts from those games and it’s all hands to the pumps, and most certainly game on. (NT) -- Bad Boy, Tuesday, December 31, 12:05:57pm (NoHost/2.222.160.125)
  • Never stand still , not even in January . If the Hierarchy have ambitions for Europe whilst at the same time equipping the Squad for all the demands it would bring , then planning should already have started . Others (ie Forest ) will almost certainly strengthen this window and their Owner has made no secret whatsoever of where he wants to take them . Personally I want nothing to stand in our way of PL progress , inc Europe . But qualification could persuade Silva to stay on further (NT) -- Mickey, Tuesday, December 31, 12:27:41pm (host86-149-156-201.range86-149.btcentralplus.com/86.149.156.201)

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• I’d like a young, proper box to box midfielder in this window. Pereiras position is one that I definitely feel we could upgrade on. Striker would be nice, just don’t see a top quality one being available, plus Raul and Muniz are scoring. (NT) -- Hg, Tuesday, December 31, 12:26:23pm (NoHost/31.94.34.148)
  • I agree, someone who can get in the box and get on the huge amount of crosses we put in. CF is fine this season, maybe the summer, but not in Jan, unless Carlos leaves. I was hoping Berge could be let loose with lukic next to him, but doesn’t seem to be happening, a young energetic midfielder would be great, Sunderland have a couple worth looking at in Bellingham and Chris rigg, where’s the next Adam Wharton. (NT) -- Henry1879, Tuesday, December 31, 04:15:54pm (croy-26-b2-v4wan-167127-cust1611.vm24.cable.virginm.net/82.38.22.76)

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• Gray to replace Nelson (NT) -- Stormy weather, Tuesday, December 31, 01:08:07pm (2e409fa8.skybroadband.com/46.64.159.168)

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• Its got to be players who can find the net, CM areas have contributed 6 between them in 19 matches (cairney/berge/lukic/perreira/ESR) (NT) -- Waterboy, Tuesday, December 31, 01:13:39pm (NoHost/84.65.35.84)

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• Watching delap last night against Chelsea he would be the perfect fit. Ran them ragged. If Ipswich go down he’s a must for me. Reminds me of a young mitro. Fantastic performance hope he’s quieter on Sunday (NT) -- Hodds Sutton, Tuesday, December 31, 01:23:56pm (croy-25-b2-v4wan-169464-cust2015.vm24.cable.virginm.net/92.236.39.224)
  • As below there’s some way OTT mitro fawning, when did he ever run teams ragged?! Hr was never in the same league with pace as delap, great hold up and elite header, but never did he run teams ragged like delap (NT) -- Henry1879, Tuesday, December 31, 01:27:35pm (croy-26-b2-v4wan-167127-cust1611.vm24.cable.virginm.net/82.38.22.76)

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• Find the mitro star gazing way OTT, people talk about him like he was this elite player, he was a top 7/8 CF, but even then for 2/3 of a season. He’d improve us in some areas, corners/heading, but make us worse in others, penalties, pressing from the front. 11/3/14, mitro’s 3 prem seasons for us, compare that to where those 2 are this season (only 1 is ever on the pitch for us, need to think of them as a joint effort). Evanilson/thiago (bees) cost 40m, hardly made a big impact. (NT) -- Henry1879, Tuesday, December 31, 01:24:43pm (croy-26-b2-v4wan-167127-cust1611.vm24.cable.virginm.net/82.38.22.76)
  • Hmm, As an accurate comparison look at his last season under Marco, doesn’t take injury or the savant that is Parker into account. 14 goals in 24 games .0069 goals per minute played. Muniz is on .0052 and Raul .0053. Not sure why we should be looking them as a joint effort vs one? (NT) -- FF, Tuesday, December 31, 02:17:20pm (82-132-215-92.dab.02.net/82.132.215.92)
    • For mitro we look at mitigations & nuance, we don’t for the others. You’ve just picked the best ever (3rd) season, can I cherry pick muniz’s second half of last season, as that’s the only time he’s consistently started games. Where was mitro when he was 22 by the way? We are a better team now, he may improve us, but he was also ill disciplined, had an ego (the penalties) and threw his toys when the money showed up, we are more rounded without him at the club. (NT) -- Henry1879, Tuesday, December 31, 04:11:09pm (croy-26-b2-v4wan-167127-cust1611.vm24.cable.virginm.net/82.38.22.76)

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• To me we are a much better side with the sulky Serb. Jiménez & Muniz put shifts in that Mitro never did. (NT) -- Al, Tuesday, December 31, 04:42:22pm (NoHost/193.17.86.250)
  • Ooops, without!!!!!!!! (NT) -- Al, Tuesday, December 31, 04:43:04pm (NoHost/193.17.86.250)
  • Yeh this is where I see it too, let’s not forget the missed penalties, the missing games due ill discipline, I feel we are more rounded now and it’s less of the mitro plus others show. There are areas we miss, set pieces springs to mind and some of his passing towards the end was really high level, but there are pro’s and con’s and either way I don’t think we’d suddenly become far better with him than with the current options. (NT) -- Henry1879, Tuesday, December 31, 04:47:54pm (croy-26-b2-v4wan-167127-cust1611.vm24.cable.virginm.net/82.38.22.76)