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Date Posted: Saturday, February 22, 07:52:25pm
Author: Henry1879
Author Host/IP: croy-26-b2-v4wan-167127-cust1611.vm24.cable.virginm.net / 82.38.22.76
Subject: Palace game

As anyone who’s seen palace in last couple of months knows, Palace are a serious team, would be top 8 in my opinion; if they hadn’t had the injuries. Similar to us; they are well suited to play away from home, this wasn’t a disastrous result, it wasn’t a shock really, why we aren’t in the European spots is due to other games, West Ham and Utd spring to mind. Thing I’ve been asking for a while is for us to roll the dice a bit more this summer, are we even a better with Anderson than diop? Not sure we are and it cost us 30m and huge wages to play that safe card. Palace have lacroix and 10m profit, we have to start looking younger and less safe, I hope silva isn’t too stubborn to continue on the same transfer strategy.

On a tactical level, I don’t know enough to understand how to overcome palaces 3-4-3, it’s amorims at Utd, although they are far less adept at mastering it. It’s known as being very hard to get right, but when you do it can play out like today. Every time we seemed to be outnumbered, tried going wide we had no joy, tried going down the middle, no joy, tried going long, no joy, I don’t know what the way to beat it is. We don’t sit before a game and think, right well it’s at home, let’s try and keep the ball and play side to side with no pace, there just didn’t ever seem to be good options to move the ball quick, they did an absolute number on us. It’s a really tough one, because we’ve had a really good season so have every right to play what’s done well, but it was so patently obvious after even half an hour they were dominating every facet we at lesst could have tried doing something different, chuck 2 up and go long, switch to 3 at the back, just to try and shift momentum, because what we were doing was so far away from working.

I think it’d bit of an old cliche to think you should win more at home, especially wirh how our squad has been put together, with athletic players. Just think now it’s clear to look at games like Utd or BHA away as better opportunities than palace at home. With that in mind I think our run in is ok, nobody pulled away from us today, Europe is still there if we keep going, just have to accept unless we find a way to be like forest at home and in effect play like the away team, then for the forseeable we will be a stronger team away than at homes

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As much as I rate Berge I think a key aspect of the role of a 6 is to help breakthrough a high press or being available to help create angles through a mid block that we encountered today - he doesn’t work hard enough to be a spare man to our 2 CDs when in possession. Palhinha was similar at first but got better at it. For all his other qualities. I like to see Berge much more involved in our build up from the back (NT) -- f bloke, Saturday, February 22, 08:15:04pm (host86-134-9-56.range86-134.btcentralplus.com/86.134.9.56)
- I also think that’s what silva has wanted, we have 2 big powerful CMs, neither are great at taking the ball on the half turn and picking a pass, like Murphy or even seri. It works well when games get stretched and they cover the ground, but it’s hindering us at home, but that’s silva’s choice, he wanted these types, hughes was best player on the pitch, the most Murphy type out there. (NT) -- Henry1879, Saturday, February 22, 08:27:16pm (croy-26-b2-v4wan-167127-cust1611.vm24.cable.virginm.net/82.38.22.76)
Re: Palace game (NT) -- When you’re not on it you get beat., Saturday, February 22, 08:40:50pm (host-217-8-22-33.as13285.net/217.8.22.33)
Have to be a bit braver and play with more tempo. Centre mids have to get beyond the ball on occasion. ESR has to get on the ball even if he goes deep. AND when you're defending need to tackle and not be bullied at set pieces. 0-0 wouldn't have been the worse result against a side as well drilled as this with our bargain basement Tone Khan striking options. (NT) -- WayneKerrins, Sunday, February 23, 04:54:03am (pool-108-2-117-254.phlapa.fios.verizon.net/108.2.117.254)
- Everyone wants that, passing/moving the ball quickly, but I don’t think we have the players to do it. The issue wasn’t ESR, Raul, Iwobi, it was getting the ball to them in dangerous areas before palace were set. I don’t think Berge/lukic are suited to taking the ball on the half turn and finding a quick pass in midfield. I think we are better off ignoring that we are at home, let them have the ball, play like away team, how forest do, it suits our players. (NT) -- Henry1879, Sunday, February 23, 08:20:10am (croy-26-b2-v4wan-167127-cust1611.vm24.cable.virginm.net/82.38.22.76)
  - Thing is I think the 2 of them have the ability to play in that way- Palhinha was less suited to it but got better at it during his time with us. Don’t know if it is a confidence thing or a Marco tactical thing - but if we are to progress as a team I think we need to find a solution (NT) -- f bloke, Sunday, February 23, 09:17:36am (host86-134-9-56.range86-134.btcentralplus.com/86.134.9.56)
    - Tigana was one of the best in that position and he passed on a lot of his know how to Sean Davis who became really v good in that position- at his best he was worthy of England caps, he may have not been as good as Lamps/Gerrard but he was a better 6 than both. Pie in the sky I know but getting either or Diarra in as consultant pre- season coaches for all squads would be money well spent (NT) -- f bloke, Sunday, February 23, 09:26:01am (host86-134-9-56.range86-134.btcentralplus.com/86.134.9.56)
I don't see us finishing any higher than 10th (which based on this squad and it's goal career stats would be decent) (NT) -- Waterboy, Sunday, February 23, 09:31:52am (NoHost/90.241.99.11)

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