Who’s writing him off? He’s a good prem CM, who’ll never be worth 80m. Young players, even if they haven’t achieved as much, are worth far more money, just look at the biggest prem transfers last 5 years. You think caicedo was better than palhina when CFC paid 100m for him? Or why they paid £50m for lavia based on half a season. We can either hope the team stays together, or we understand the reality of who we are, the need to sell and reinvest, best sellers are 20-24 y/olds innit. -- SW6.doc

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Date Posted: Tuesday, March 04, 05:26:41pm
Author: Henry1879
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Subject: Who’s writing him off? He’s a good prem CM, who’ll never be worth 80m. Young players, even if they haven’t achieved as much, are worth far more money, just look at the biggest prem transfers last 5 years. You think caicedo was better than palhina when CFC paid 100m for him? Or why they paid £50m for lavia based on half a season. We can either hope the team stays together, or we understand the reality of who we are, the need to sell and reinvest, best sellers are 20-24 y/olds innit.
In reply to: Bad Boy 's message, "Shame to write off the fella at the tender age of just 27. Palhinha was 2 yrs older when we flogged him off for a princely sum. Amidst all the wailing and gnashing of teeth at the time, really, how much do we miss him now? Berge (and Lukic) arrived largely unheralded and now have repaid us in spades. Some things you can’t put a price on. Innit?" on Tuesday, March 04, 05:00:22pm

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Yeah wait for it Muniz is 22 , so we should sell him for a princely £28 m so you and your mates can earn a commission . Because we need to invest . You were the handle saying it’s too late to get Muniz a new contract because Fulham are a little ickle club and can’t risk his wages necessary to keep him . Then we spent £90m on three players we hardly even needed . (NT) -- alanos, Tuesday, March 04, 06:54:23pm (82-132-212-14.dab.02.net/82.132.212.14)
- It was me arguing with you that we shouldn't be extending Muniz immediately upon a good run of form and that a club our size cannot hand out extensions whenever a player does well. We must maximize good contracts and extend players when their stock isn't the very highest. I'm sure Henry agreed with that, as I'm sure many others do, because, beyond the looney minds of conspiracy theorists or those who understand football through Championship Manager, it's hardly a radical position. (NT) -- eganonoa, Tuesday, March 04, 07:15:29pm (pool-108-18-149-21.washdc.fios.verizon.net/108.18.149.21)
  - Contracts is tricky as nobody really knows anything bar the people involved. However I agree don’t reward short term form with a new contract every time, I believe with 2 years left this summer that will be a time to offer an extension, don’t want to get to 18months left. Long term club interests aren’t always aligned with fans/manager, need more Muniz, less Anderson type signings. (NT) -- Henry1879, Tuesday, March 04, 07:49:03pm (croy-26-b2-v4wan-167127-cust1611.vm24.cable.virginm.net/82.38.22.76)
  - Of course he should have been offered a massive pay rise ( to around Mitro level when he was here) after scoring 9 in 9 , in return for a longer contract . That way he would be incentivised to carry on in the same manner . Otherwise you encourage rival clubs to try to get him on the cheap by offering sign on fees . All he has to do is ‘forget how to score ‘ and then remember again after he moves . (NT) -- alanos, Tuesday, March 04, 11:23:29pm (82-132-214-92.dab.02.net/82.132.214.92)
    - You live in an alternative universe. We have Muniz contracted until June 2027. Why in all god's name would we increase his salary to "Mitro level" in March 2024, more than 3 seasons before his current deal runs out, on the basis of a bunch of goals scored in his first ever scoring spell for the club!? What's that, a 1300% increase based on nine matches!? (NT) -- eganonoa, Wednesday, March 05, 12:56:47am (pool-108-18-149-21.washdc.fios.verizon.net/108.18.149.21)
      - tbh, the kind of logic being exhibited by alanos here is pretty much exactly what an agent trying to get a better deal for his player would say...... (NT) -- Same Old Story, Wednesday, March 05, 09:46:32am (webdefence-pool-02.cluster-a.forcepoint.net/85.115.52.202)
        Too true! (NT) -- eganonoa, Wednesday, March 05, 02:55:55pm (pool-108-18-149-21.washdc.fios.verizon.net/108.18.149.21)
    - But he’s done well this season without a new contract and I’d say a new big long term contract can have the opposite effect and cause complacency and not motivate to keep going and show it wasn’t a flash in the pan. Rashford, ozil, a.Sanchez obvious examples where they got their big contract then switched off. TBH it’s not something I’m overly excited about either way, as long as we don’t let it run down past 18 months then we are golden. (NT) -- Henry1879, Wednesday, March 05, 07:13:53am (croy-26-b2-v4wan-167127-cust1611.vm24.cable.virginm.net/82.38.22.76)
      - Your ‘reasoning’ stinks unless you’re an agent . Why when he finally comes good and gets all those goals ( 9 in 9 games ) would the club not want to extend his contract at once . There is no reason other than total idiocy or colluding with other clubs who want him on the cheap . I mean we have SUCH a good record with players signing who begin to run down their contracts . Yes indeed why on earth panic . If he goes for a fifth of his value to another club who cares . You’re ‘golden’ (NT) -- alanos, Wednesday, March 05, 11:48:03pm (82-132-214-224.dab.02.net/82.132.214.224)

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