You have to take formation into it though. We didn’t need to play with two dms when palhinha played, and we never played with two dms and 5 at the back when he was with us either. -- SW6.doc

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Date Posted: Tuesday, March 04, 10:42:03pm
Author: Hg
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Subject: You have to take formation into it though. We didn’t need to play with two dms when palhinha played, and we never played with two dms and 5 at the back when he was with us either.
In reply to: eganonoa 's message, "All of this is consistent with their career numbers, except shots (where Berge's been better overall) and carries (where Berge's been even better). Pal's destroyer capabilities cannot be denied. But we're clearly better without him than with him, including defensively. Last season we conceded 1.61 goals per game; this it's 1.33, and that's with a drop-off from Leno (Andersen replacing Tosin's been a bit of a wash). We're doing better with more control of the ball and Berge's a big part of that." on Tuesday, March 04, 10:13:49pm

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I think, beyond the occasional five at the back, the system that we've played this year have been very similar to last. For about 50% of last year we played with two inside forwards (Cairney and Andreas) and this year we've done the same (ESR and Andreas). Then we played the more traditional 4231 with Lukic/Reed pairing Pal, just like we do now with Berge and Lukic. (NT) -- eganonoa, Wednesday, March 05, 12:17:34am (pool-108-18-149-21.washdc.fios.verizon.net/108.18.149.21)
I think goals scored are on a par and I think goals conceded are less this season, so the 'two DMs' isn't really having a negative effect. (NT) -- Jim© The Devon IP, Wednesday, March 05, 01:51:28pm (62-64-192-58.virtual1.co.uk/62.64.192.58)
- That's correct. We're scoring at a slightly better rate than last year. But defensively we've been seriously improved in fact and "expectation" (i.e. but for under-performance by Leno, we'd have an even better defensive record). But the "two DMs" is a misnomer. We've played with a sole DM quite a bit, whenever only one of Berge/Lukic has played, but when they've played together, Lukic has performed the same role he did with Pal last season, and Reed did the season prior (i.e. more box-to-box). (NT) -- eganonoa, Wednesday, March 05, 02:55:01pm (pool-108-18-149-21.washdc.fios.verizon.net/108.18.149.21)

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