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Date Posted: 01:26:25 05/04/03 Sun
Author: IDAHO
Subject: Myth of the Messiah
In reply to: DriftMaker 's message, "The new minies" on 22:34:14 05/03/03 Sat

I just wanted to make a comment on your very thoughtful last post. First, I believe HOD is about 1500 years after the Tyrant...not 10000 to clarify. I figured you just added an extra 0 anyway.

But I find it incredibly interesting that Herbert chooses to explore the messiah and it's ramifications by villifying him. If HOD is 1500 years after the Tyrant and around 4,500 years after Muad'ib, then HOD is almost like us looking back on Jesus and the history that his death set in motion. That's not to say that there aren't people who have thought Jesus Christ and (even moreso than he ) his subsequent followers have been the cause of countless bloodshed and slaughter. However, Muad'ib was a Messiah that clearly was a product of harsh, brutal thinking. Killing was a necessary evil and Muad'ib's very goal was revenge against those who had murdered his father.
even the Tyrant was far more brutal than Jesus or Buddha who are associated more with forgiveness, love, and enlightenment.
Perhaps Muad'ib is more like Mohammedan figure in his violence? I don't know.

I just find it interesting that Herbert predicated his messiah on violence rather than peace (though as I said, it seems Christianity has been the cause of plenty of violence too).

Anyway, I don't really have any vast conclusions to make here other than the fact that The modern reader can sympathize more with the characters in HOD or Chapterhouse because he, like them, is looking back on what happened with these messiahs and seeing the ramifications.

-IDAHO-

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Confusion -- DriftMaker, 09:58:09 05/04/03 Sun