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DUNE Novels
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See where the novels fit into the DUNE TIMELINE

Got a question about one of the books?
Hopefully here you'll get the answers you seek!

Got an email the other day from Kevin Anderson -- TheCannabist, 00:51:41 08/26/03 Tue
- Congrats Cannabist -- IDAHO, 03:56:48 08/26/03 Tue
- That's great! Hope he stops by! (NT) -- Crysknife, 07:46:46 08/26/03 Tue
  - Good for you! -- G-Lock, 19:10:10 08/26/03 Tue
Frank Herbert's resources... -- tvscks, 20:20:16 07/21/03 Mon
- check out this guy -- Kralizec, 22:36:02 07/21/03 Mon
  - Carl Jung (pronounced young) is actually a Psychiatrist like Freud (NT) -- The Cannabist, 16:47:32 07/22/03 Tue
  - a little elaboration -- cranky1c, 11:33:41 08/26/03 Tue
- Foundation. -- Crysknife, 10:50:19 07/23/03 Wed
  - Was Foundation written BEFORE Dune? (NT) -- IDAHO, 11:46:16 08/26/03 Tue
    - Yes. -- Crysknife, 13:19:55 08/26/03 Tue
Irulan's name -- Jim, 12:37:07 08/18/03 Mon
- I wish I had the Encyclopedia to look at!!! -- SuperString01, 22:40:07 08/22/03 Fri
- Now you can... -- Ghanima, 11:41:17 08/25/03 Mon
  - Muchas Gracias!!! -- SuperString01, 19:36:21 08/25/03 Mon
  - try Kazaa too... -- cranky1c, 11:48:04 08/26/03 Tue
Paul's Mentat Power -- IDAHO, 15:45:14 06/14/03 Sat
- I spoke to soon -- IDAHO, 15:58:00 06/14/03 Sat
  - paul's mentat ability? -- chairdog, 23:42:58 06/14/03 Sat
- Paul was and wasn't a mentat... -- SuperString01, 14:17:02 08/24/03 Sun
BG vs Machines in Dune 7 -- AntiPaul, 19:47:35 07/16/03 Wed
- Where have you been? -- IDAHO, 01:26:11 07/17/03 Thu
  - I have been here -- AntiPaul, 19:22:44 07/17/03 Thu
    - No worries, I was half joking. I appreciate everyone's thoughts -- IDAHO, 00:23:19 07/18/03 Fri
      - Sorry about the tone (NT) -- AntiPaul, 05:51:10 07/18/03 Fri
- A comment -- Ghanima, 14:52:55 07/17/03 Thu
- I like this idea immensly -- SuperString01, 02:06:35 08/23/03 Sat
Anarchy? -- Green Phoenix, 11:11:13 08/18/03 Mon
- Duncan Idaho and Siona- and they eventually mate and their descendants populate the universe (NT) -- RavensZim, 11:31:54 08/18/03 Mon
- The Bene Gesserit... -- SuperString01, 23:39:39 08/22/03 Fri
Latest Short Story from the franchise... -- Ghanima, 10:12:33 08/22/03 Fri
- Tanks Ghani!!! -- SuperString01, 22:47:28 08/22/03 Fri
Timeline after Scattering -- G-Lock, 19:01:58 08/17/03 Sun
- Timelines -- SuperString01, 20:45:41 08/22/03 Fri
  - Thanx -- G-Lock, 22:34:45 08/22/03 Fri
Why isn't this petition more popular? -- theButterfly, 23:46:55 08/18/03 Mon
- Yup. -- Crysknife, 11:33:56 08/19/03 Tue
  - You're probably right. -- theButterfly, 20:35:21 08/19/03 Tue
- We are sooo cool... I am just gloating -- IDAHO, 03:04:29 08/22/03 Fri
Leto II's age at transformation -- G-Lock, 18:02:59 08/05/03 Tue
- Yes -- IDAHO, 20:19:39 08/05/03 Tue
  - Thanx -- G-Lock, 00:15:58 08/09/03 Sat
opinions? -- Kralizec, 04:09:35 07/29/03 Tue
- Opinionated.. -- The Cannabist, 11:22:58 07/29/03 Tue
  - Historical Document -- Jim, 11:32:58 07/29/03 Tue
    - If Franks said it's not canon... then it's not canon. It's that simple. (NT) -- The Cannabist, 13:59:35 07/29/03 Tue
      - However... -- Ghanima, 14:47:39 07/29/03 Tue
        Exactly Ghani, Frank himself said it was Good Entertainment. -- The Cannabist, 17:12:58 07/29/03 Tue
References in Dune Messiah -- Green Phoenix, 10:27:26 07/24/03 Thu
- Well... -- G-Lock, 17:15:27 07/26/03 Sat
  - lost threads -- IDAHO, 15:56:55 07/27/03 Sun
    - Rewoven by the Tyrant - Siona a KH? -- AntiPaul, 06:27:50 07/28/03 Mon
      - Leto's Test gave ALL Attreides visons, and they ALL could become worms if they chose. (NT) -- The Cannabist, 10:06:02 07/28/03 Mon
      - Atreides Genes -- IDAHO, 12:00:38 07/28/03 Mon
        why not? it's the Culmination of centuries of breeding (NT) -- The Cannabist, 12:37:52 07/28/03 Mon
        I agree. -- Crysknife, 13:21:17 07/28/03 Mon
        I guess....But -- IDAHO, 13:38:44 07/28/03 Mon
        Because... Once the genes culminated -- -- The Cannabist, 18:58:06 07/28/03 Mon
        Could every Atreides be a KH? -- AntiPaul, 22:38:21 07/28/03 Mon
        You are right about the AL (After Leto) Atreides -- The Cannabist, 01:35:40 07/29/03 Tue
More Dune 7 Speculation -- IDAHO, 17:27:51 06/27/03 Fri
- another hint in ChapterHouse:Dune -- RavensZim, 17:51:34 06/27/03 Fri
  - ARE YOU INSANE?!?! A trilogy would mean at least six years until we'd find out how it ended!!!! I'd die! (NT) -- Ghanima, 14:22:29 07/01/03 Tue
- This is my favorite topic -- Ghanima, 14:46:04 07/01/03 Tue
  - Great ideas -- IDAHO, 17:51:45 07/01/03 Tue
    - miral alechem -- MilesTeg, 01:51:53 07/21/03 Mon
      - uhhh you have it half right. -- The Cannabist, 12:19:29 07/21/03 Mon
        actually -- MilesTeg, 22:25:14 07/21/03 Mon
        Actually no -- IDAHO, 00:15:58 07/22/03 Tue
        i agree -- Kralizec, 03:35:30 07/22/03 Tue
        Thoughts -- IDAHO, 12:39:05 07/22/03 Tue
        I'd have to re-read.. BUT -- The Cannabist, 13:25:08 07/22/03 Tue
        i remember something now! -- Kralizec, 20:43:29 07/22/03 Tue
- A clue to what Idaho saw? -- Ghanima, 14:30:17 07/03/03 Thu
  - This idea is similar to Dark City or the Matrix -- IDAHO, 15:07:06 07/03/03 Thu
    - Dune 7 Face Dancers aren't machines. -- RavensZim, 06:16:15 07/05/03 Sat
      - To say anything is DEFNITE is folly -- IDAHO, 00:18:33 07/06/03 Sun
D7*butlerian jihad spoilers* -- chairdog, 14:35:52 07/21/03 Mon
Question about Sappho juice -- IDAHO, 16:27:21 07/11/03 Fri
- Pg 59 of my pdf -- The Cannabist, 12:59:59 07/14/03 Mon
  - Thanks -- IDAHO, 23:41:23 07/14/03 Mon
Paul did INDEED have Other Memory: The Proof and conclusions -- IDAHO, 21:16:59 07/06/03 Sun
- Well.... -- The Cannabist, 23:57:02 07/06/03 Sun
  - I was trying to wrote it in essay form. A full feldged argument -- IDAHO, 00:36:53 07/07/03 Mon
    - But I did say I was open to proof -- The Cannabist, 00:40:46 07/07/03 Mon
      - Pardot Kynes -- IDAHO, 15:42:23 07/07/03 Mon
- Congratulations.... -- Ghanima, 09:44:26 07/07/03 Mon
- Idaho shoots and scores -- RavensZim, 20:40:17 07/07/03 Mon
- My two cents... -- tvscks, 00:30:52 07/08/03 Tue
  - huh? How I think IDAHO proved it 100% -- The Cannabist, 03:17:53 07/08/03 Tue
    - Why I don't think so... -- tvscks, 20:24:02 07/08/03 Tue
      - They are "silent" because they don't actually have phsyical speaking apparatus -- IDAHO, 00:21:09 07/09/03 Wed
        IDAHO... about OM -- The Cannabist, 14:38:41 07/09/03 Wed
        Sure, okay, I'll agree -- IDAHO, 16:25:18 07/09/03 Wed
        Superman was powerful, Leto has strength :-) (NT) -- The Cannabist, 19:23:45 07/09/03 Wed
        See, I would say Superman had Strength, but Leto II was powerful -- IDAHO, 23:11:31 07/09/03 Wed
        GEoD -- tvscks, 23:51:21 07/11/03 Fri
        Other Memory and Religion -- Bloodsucker, 19:39:58 07/12/03 Sat
The Kwisatz Haderach Master Plan -- IDAHO, 12:16:49 07/12/03 Sat
Face Dancers in Dune 7: Another Clue in the House Books -- IDAHO, 16:38:26 07/11/03 Fri
Duncan Idaho and the Soul -- IDAHO, 16:32:30 07/09/03 Wed
- Humanity's soul -- Ghanima, 09:48:12 07/10/03 Thu
  - Soul- less Gholas -- RavensZim, 14:11:12 07/10/03 Thu
Excellent logic...please help with my question -- AntiPaul, 20:01:41 07/07/03 Mon
- Chenoeh -- RavensZim, 20:30:06 07/07/03 Mon
  - Thanks -- AntiPaul, 06:24:27 07/08/03 Tue
There is no Way that Machines won't return in Dune 7 -- IDAHO, 15:19:42 07/03/03 Thu
- Okay... -- Ghanima, 17:11:48 07/03/03 Thu
  - Waking from a dream -- IDAHO, 20:49:47 07/03/03 Thu
Mhiam as mother of jessica -- IDAHO, 21:52:58 06/19/03 Thu
- mohiam -- chairdog, 23:00:50 06/19/03 Thu
  - I think it is the Vendetta -- IDAHO, 00:11:01 06/20/03 Fri
    - i don't think so -- chairdog, 00:40:49 06/20/03 Fri
      - Yeah, but that isn't the "breach" but that is just my opinion (NT) -- IDAHO, 01:18:15 06/20/03 Fri
  - Think Hatfields and McCoys (NT) -- Bloodsucker, 21:58:35 06/26/03 Thu
Paul, the greatest and strongest of all. -- Crysknife, 16:20:40 06/25/03 Wed
- I've always said Paul was the first step in the Golden Path -- The Cannabist, 18:47:21 06/25/03 Wed
  - Paul, Oedipus, and determinism -- IDAHO, 23:11:56 06/25/03 Wed
    - I can't argue much with what you said.... BUT -- The Cannabist, 01:43:34 06/26/03 Thu
      - Well I have read the books... -- IDAHO, 02:21:00 06/26/03 Thu
        you misunderstood... I didn't say you Hadn't read the book -- The Cannabist, 03:13:25 06/26/03 Thu
        No, I think I understood -- IDAHO, 03:17:51 06/26/03 Thu
        What about this... -- Ghanima, 09:38:36 06/26/03 Thu
        I was under the impression he knew the whole time -- IDAHO, 11:25:45 06/26/03 Thu
        Rebuttal/reply and questions -- Ghanima, 11:45:21 06/26/03 Thu
        Paul knew about contraceptives,.... remember -- The Cannabist, 12:48:20 06/26/03 Thu
        I agree -- Crysknife, 11:47:22 06/26/03 Thu
        Paul let himself be blinded and maimed- how selfish??? -- RavensZim, 18:20:39 06/26/03 Thu
        I agree -- IDAHO, 18:49:42 06/26/03 Thu
Roleplaying Dune - fluff -- AntiPaul, 17:16:58 06/18/03 Wed
- War: the place that Takes - responses please -- AntiPaul, 20:03:56 06/19/03 Thu
  - Enough Already - Let's Move on (NT) -- AntiPaul, 17:39:46 06/24/03 Tue
buddislam -- chairdog, 13:58:52 06/16/03 Mon
- It symbolic of opressed cultures -- IDAHO, 00:42:43 06/17/03 Tue
  - oppresive universe -- chairdog, 02:55:47 06/17/03 Tue
    - You are right, that's the point -- IDAHO, 11:42:17 06/17/03 Tue
    - Well..... -- Crysknife, 12:51:41 06/17/03 Tue
      - unacceptable -- chairdog, 17:08:11 06/17/03 Tue
        Millions of Galaxies -- AntiPaul, 17:15:04 06/17/03 Tue
        War -- IDAHO, 00:13:52 06/18/03 Wed
        Answer... -- Crysknife, 12:57:09 06/18/03 Wed
        Unfortunately we aren't more complex -- IDAHO, 13:19:44 06/18/03 Wed
        Well.... -- Crysknife, 13:59:49 06/18/03 Wed
        Um...not quite -- IDAHO, 15:35:02 06/18/03 Wed
        Genocide is war! -- Crysknife, 16:05:22 06/18/03 Wed
        Genocide is not war -- IDAHO, 23:17:48 06/18/03 Wed
        Give me a break.... -- Crysknife, 10:50:22 06/19/03 Thu
        Check your definitions -- IDAHO, 14:26:47 06/19/03 Thu
        Please -- Crysknife, 14:52:01 06/19/03 Thu
        Uhhh.... -- Ghanima, 15:39:58 06/19/03 Thu
        I said at least 30...jeeez! (NT) -- Crysknife, 16:45:05 06/19/03 Thu
        Answer. -- Crysknife, 16:50:55 06/19/03 Thu
        You fool, can't you discern any subleties? -- IDAHO, 18:05:06 06/19/03 Thu
        Hey man watch who you "reply" to. I thought you were calling ME a fool. (NT) -- Ghanima, 18:19:45 06/19/03 Thu
        you are cool with me Ghani sorry (NT) -- IDAHO, 21:40:58 06/19/03 Thu
        Fool? -- Crysknife, 09:32:02 06/20/03 Fri
        Anouther thing...Genocide and Cold are both forms of war. Doughnuts and bagels are both forms of baked goods. A doughnut is a baked good just as genocide is war. (NT) -- Crysknife, 10:26:32 06/20/03 Fri
        I never said War and genocide weren't related...to the contrary -- IDAHO, 13:51:12 06/20/03 Fri
        Question. -- Crysknife, 14:08:06 06/20/03 Fri
        Let's see, I would call genocide...genocide -- IDAHO, 17:46:08 06/20/03 Fri
        I am tired of this. Everyone I know agrees with me. This is my last post here. -- Crysknife, 18:19:41 06/20/03 Fri
        You seem to think I am somehow mitigating genocide -- IDAHO, 21:09:48 06/20/03 Fri
        Answer. -- Crysknife, 17:04:51 06/19/03 Thu
        Chairdog.... -- Crysknife, 13:05:40 06/18/03 Wed
        it's that attitude that lets it continue./NT (NT) -- chairdog, 17:18:27 06/18/03 Wed
        Please.....my attitude is one of helplessness and truth, not of acceptance (NT) -- Crysknife, 17:52:07 06/18/03 Wed
        The idea is to accept, but then fight for change -- IDAHO, 23:23:10 06/18/03 Wed
        bravo -- chairdog, 13:41:44 06/19/03 Thu
        Well..... -- Crysknife, 14:58:16 06/19/03 Thu
        it is said that change starts with ones self (NT) -- chairdog, 15:46:23 06/19/03 Thu
        O.K. Chairdog...I'll do my part.....hmmmm....where to start? (NT) -- Crysknife, 17:07:09 06/19/03 Thu
        be an informed voter...that's a start (NT) -- IDAHO, 17:39:47 06/19/03 Thu
        Being an informed voter... -- tvscks, 18:27:56 06/19/03 Thu
        our grandchildren will be too busy paying back this deficit. (NT) -- chairdog, 19:04:08 06/19/03 Thu
        You are simply resigning yourself? -- IDAHO, 20:59:47 06/19/03 Thu
- What does ANY of this shit have to do with Dune?? (NT) -- TheCannabist, 13:58:32 06/20/03 Fri
  - GEOD -- Ghanima, 14:30:16 06/20/03 Fri
  - GEOD -- Ghanima, 14:32:36 06/20/03 Fri
    - Ghanima, I fully agree with this. (NT) -- Crysknife, 14:57:10 06/20/03 Fri
    - well said ghanima (NT) -- chairdog, 14:57:25 06/20/03 Fri
    - Ok then... You guy's have at it, I'm done here. -- The Cannabist, 17:31:25 06/20/03 Fri
      - dune and society -- chairdog, 19:49:35 06/21/03 Sat
        yeah yeah yeah and -- The Cannabist, 20:59:35 06/21/03 Sat
        Sorry Cannabist -- IDAHO, 23:12:49 06/22/03 Sun
        I also will agree to what IDAHO has written. I apologize. (NT) -- Crysknife, 12:01:44 06/23/03 Mon
        Please don't go Jay -- Ghanima, 13:19:26 06/23/03 Mon
        PS. I hope you come back too Crysknife (NT) -- Ghanima, 13:23:23 06/23/03 Mon
Other memory/ possession -- Jim, 11:18:52 06/19/03 Thu
- Well... -- Ghanima, 13:15:18 06/19/03 Thu
Paul and proof of his Other Memory -- IDAHO, 12:55:13 06/04/03 Wed
- That's pretty compelling. -- theButterfly, 14:26:00 06/04/03 Wed
- Evidence that Paul doesn't have Other Memory -- Ghanima, 14:51:06 06/04/03 Wed
  - I agree with all you said except Paul IS the KH -- The Cannabist, 15:38:44 06/04/03 Wed
    - Point taken, and actually I do agree with you on all points. (NT) -- Ghanima, 17:56:06 06/04/03 Wed
  - He was MORE than the KH -- IDAHO, 15:48:33 06/04/03 Wed
    - I said that already you just went into more detail. -- The Cannabist, 16:36:57 06/04/03 Wed
      - Cannabist -- Crysknife, 18:13:30 06/04/03 Wed
      - Good thinking... and he discerned his Harkonnen lineage on his own -- IDAHO, 12:00:02 06/05/03 Thu
- I disagree vehemently -- The Cannabist, 14:58:09 06/04/03 Wed
  - You ask "What is Other Memory?"...thoughts -- IDAHO, 16:01:15 06/04/03 Wed
    - Anouther thought..... -- Crysknife, 16:56:38 06/04/03 Wed
      - The question arises because of bad writing -- RavensZim, 17:09:41 06/04/03 Wed
        Hey Now! Them's fightin' words.... (NT) -- Ghanima, 18:05:48 06/04/03 Wed
        Jessica's OM was used lots... -- The Cannabist, 20:31:19 06/04/03 Wed
        She walked the sands and took the water of life BEFORE getting OM -- RavensZim, 17:26:40 06/05/03 Thu
        I was wondering how long it would take someone to notice -- The Cannabist, 01:34:49 06/06/03 Fri
        What about... -- facedancer7777, 21:24:44 06/16/03 Mon
        He saw that through Leto.... -- TheCannabist, 22:51:27 06/16/03 Mon
        No OM: I changed my mind. -- AntiPaul, 17:19:59 06/17/03 Tue
      - I'll buy that (NT) -- IDAHO, 12:02:57 06/05/03 Thu
- paul's o-m -- chairdog, 02:43:01 06/17/03 Tue
Hello Grandfather -- IDAHO, 16:21:58 06/14/03 Sat
- paul's future -- chairdog, 23:37:44 06/14/03 Sat
- I had a weird take on it... -- tvscks, 04:09:02 06/15/03 Sun
  - yeah... -- theButterfly, 18:54:57 06/15/03 Sun
    - Funny -- IDAHO, 19:27:07 06/15/03 Sun
      - Good point -- Ghanima, 10:38:23 06/16/03 Mon
        Well, he didn't want the Jihad -- IDAHO, 20:48:08 06/16/03 Mon
      - Lesser of two evils -- tvscks, 12:28:17 06/16/03 Mon
Duncan Idaho vs. Richard B. Riddick -- theButterfly, 18:16:42 06/11/03 Wed
- Hmmm... -- G-Lock, 19:50:33 06/11/03 Wed
  - Um Duncan is a Sword master...Gurney is a ?? -- IDAHO, 04:47:17 06/12/03 Thu
    - Believe it or not... -- theButterfly, 20:42:28 06/12/03 Thu
      - "Friendly combat" -- IDAHO, 20:55:31 06/12/03 Thu
- Vin Diesel can't act...that's all. (NT) -- IDAHO, 04:43:28 06/12/03 Thu
  - ouch. (NT) -- theButterfly, 20:46:39 06/12/03 Thu
- My opinion.. -- Crysknife, 13:07:29 06/12/03 Thu
  - here here! Agreed! (NT) -- IDAHO, 17:21:27 06/12/03 Thu
    - Where's the respect for Gurney -- RavensZim, 20:24:47 06/12/03 Thu
  - Yeah, about what I expected. -- theButterfly, 21:01:15 06/12/03 Thu
    - I guess if I want a debate, I'll need to take Riddick's side... (NT) -- theButterfly, 12:29:02 06/13/03 Fri
- This just in... -- tvscks, 04:18:43 06/15/03 Sun
  - the new ,improved teg -- chairdog, 14:25:14 06/15/03 Sun
    - Sean Connery would destroy all of them in a fight (NT) -- IDAHO, 14:48:18 06/15/03 Sun
      - Great Honored Mother Superior Matre lays the Smack Down -- AntiPaul, 15:50:40 06/15/03 Sun
        AquaMan could take Leto II -- AntiPaul, 15:55:23 06/15/03 Sun
      - yeah -- chairdog, 17:28:27 06/15/03 Sun
        Or Miles Teg from Heretics (NT) -- IDAHO, 17:29:32 06/15/03 Sun
two moons -- theButterfly, 17:57:21 06/07/03 Sat
- A thought..... -- Crysknife, 22:33:53 06/07/03 Sat
  - I wonder if we'll ever know -- IDAHO, 02:06:40 06/08/03 Sun
    - God created humanity and the Worms -- RavensZim, 05:46:37 06/08/03 Sun
      - Bene Matres Gesserits... -- RavensZim, 05:51:16 06/08/03 Sun
      - It would be a waste of space -- IDAHO, 09:37:17 06/08/03 Sun
        The worms came from elsewhere -- AntiPaul, 12:20:58 06/08/03 Sun
        Yeah, it seems like FH intended for the origin of the worms to remain a mystery. (NT) -- theButterfly, 19:17:42 06/08/03 Sun
  - hmmm.... -- theButterfly, 19:25:58 06/08/03 Sun
    - Well.... -- Crysknife, 22:11:50 06/08/03 Sun
      - Ah, OK. -- theButterfly, 22:56:40 06/08/03 Sun
        Yes -- Crysknife, 09:24:44 06/09/03 Mon
paul : a male bg -- chairdog, 18:44:00 06/06/03 Fri
The Kwisatz Haderach IS a mentat -- IDAHO, 12:21:50 06/05/03 Thu
- I don't know the exact spot, but Paul states he is a Mentat -- The Cannabist, 12:35:30 06/05/03 Thu
- I'll say it though... -- Ghanima, 12:40:19 06/05/03 Thu
  - Did you not read the quote I copied at the beginning of the last thread???? -- IDAHO, 12:55:06 06/05/03 Thu
    - BUT that is an assumption. and totally irrelevant -- The Cannabist, 15:09:10 06/05/03 Thu
      - I was responding to Ghanima's comment -- IDAHO, 15:55:15 06/05/03 Thu
        ah ok ! (NT) -- The Cannabist, 18:43:45 06/05/03 Thu
    - Indeed... -- Ghanima, 16:35:21 06/05/03 Thu
      - The problem is an inconsistencies of definitions -- IDAHO, 17:44:06 06/05/03 Thu
        actually it wasn't superbeing.. it was the "Myth of the Messiah" (NT) -- The Cannabist, 18:48:11 06/05/03 Thu
        True, but its fun to argue, especially with other people who know the books. (NT) -- Ghanima, 09:21:17 06/06/03 Fri
Anouther thing on B.Jihad. -- Crysknife, 11:49:33 05/31/03 Sat
- Actually I doubt it. -- IDAHO, 17:12:01 06/01/03 Sun
  - Well.... -- Crysknife, 21:37:04 06/01/03 Sun
    - It's not that it "worked for me" -- IDAHO, 12:35:44 06/02/03 Mon
      - IDAHO, I will relent -- Crysknife, 13:17:09 06/02/03 Mon
        well I have to admit... -- IDAHO, 14:10:24 06/02/03 Mon
        Agreed. (NT) -- Crysknife, 14:23:32 06/02/03 Mon
  - You have an interesting vocabulary. (NT) -- tvscks, 11:00:31 06/02/03 Mon
- Prequel problems -- Ghanima, 10:48:57 06/02/03 Mon
Did Paul finish his mentat training? -- G-Lock, 22:09:50 05/27/03 Tue
- Hmm -- MrPsycho, 22:43:25 05/27/03 Tue
- mentat paul -- chairdog, 23:15:15 05/27/03 Tue
- I'm pretty sure he had mentant training... -- G-Lock, 03:34:28 05/28/03 Wed
- The Bruce Lee of mentats -- Ghanima, 09:46:46 05/28/03 Wed
  - pauls' other memory -- chairdog, 13:16:29 05/28/03 Wed
    - Example? -- Ghanima, 13:34:20 05/28/03 Wed
    - Example? -- Ghanima, 14:51:44 05/28/03 Wed
      - ? -- tvscks, 15:11:57 05/28/03 Wed
        Not all, only those who have been tested -- Ghanima, 15:26:13 05/28/03 Wed
        Ok, I'm glad I haven't had it wrong all this time. (NT) -- tvscks, 16:22:19 05/28/03 Wed
        Mentat Emperor -- AntiPaul, 16:29:50 05/28/03 Wed
        I'm fairly certain that Paul had other memory as well. he had all the powers of a reverend mother and more -- IDAHO, 18:13:58 05/28/03 Wed
        absolutly he had other memory. -- Crysknife, 21:58:28 05/28/03 Wed
        You still haven't proven anything to me -- Ghanima, 09:57:19 05/29/03 Thu
        Check this out. -- theButterfly, 14:22:00 05/29/03 Thu
        Thanks, and I still stand by what I said before -- Ghanima, 16:52:19 05/29/03 Thu
        Ghanima -- Crysknife, 20:52:47 05/29/03 Thu
        Pre-born? -- G-Lock, 22:12:41 05/29/03 Thu
        Well.... -- Crysknife, 23:06:33 05/29/03 Thu
        You are right. And Paul has all the abilities of a Reverend Mother I am sure -- IDAHO, 02:35:22 05/30/03 Fri
        You are right Crysknife...the only thing I can think of is... -- IDAHO, 02:25:32 05/30/03 Fri
        Well Ghanima...why do you assume then that the bene Gesserit intended the "real" Kwisatz Haderach to have other memory -- IDAHO, 02:17:44 05/30/03 Fri
        IDAHO -- Crysknife, 09:08:13 05/30/03 Fri
        Other memory is NOT TOTAL RECALL -- RavensZim, 05:58:07 06/01/03 Sun
        ??? -- Crysknife, 12:19:15 06/01/03 Sun
        So for every person the strength of OM is different, but Paul DEFINITELY had it -- IDAHO, 13:52:23 06/01/03 Sun
General ramblings... -- tvscks, 19:47:33 05/31/03 Sat
IDAHO, Leto II joined with an evil despot Harum to solidify his persona, not Paul -- The Cannabist, 09:54:44 05/30/03 Fri
- Good points all -- Ghanima, 11:00:13 05/30/03 Fri
  - however... -- The Cannabist, 11:08:13 05/30/03 Fri
    - Cannabist -- Crysknife, 11:18:27 05/30/03 Fri
      - If it happened to Paul, don't you think that would've been an event worthy of writing about?? (NT) -- The Cannabist, 11:50:39 05/30/03 Fri
        Just give me a plausable reason why he was left out and I'll believe it. (NT) -- Crysknife, 12:13:38 05/30/03 Fri
      - But Paul was the first and only man to do so, it took him several weeks instead of a few seconds, and so his experience is obviously not analagous to the BG. (NT) -- Ghanima, 12:13:19 05/30/03 Fri
        Everything Implies that he has it. Nothing says he definatly didn't have it. Now that would be worth writing about! Also he wasn't the first man. The BT had one first. (NT) -- Crysknife, 12:26:07 05/30/03 Fri
        This was because he got trapped seeing into the future wasn't it? -- IDAHO, 13:09:53 05/30/03 Fri
        Damn good point IDAHO (NT) -- Crysknife, 13:30:24 05/30/03 Fri
- But if all the women had OM, why wouldn't Paul when he went through the Water of life transmutation? (NT) -- IDAHO, 12:46:04 05/30/03 Fri
Help on critical analysis of Dune -- IDAHO, 13:24:44 05/29/03 Thu
- Check this one out -- Ghanima, 18:57:23 05/29/03 Thu
  - And thanx Ghani for that! -- G-Lock, 20:05:16 05/29/03 Thu
    - This might help as well... -- G-Lock, 20:22:14 05/29/03 Thu
      - Thanks guys...and just for Star Wars comparisons -- IDAHO, 03:25:59 05/30/03 Fri
        Check this star wars comparison -- G-Lock, 04:08:38 05/30/03 Fri
the thing I didn't like about the pre's -- Crysknife, 21:44:10 05/21/03 Wed
- I had some similar questions -- tvscks, 22:51:12 05/21/03 Wed
  - Other galaxy? I don't know. -- Crysknife, 00:23:02 05/22/03 Thu
    - That clears some of it up for me -- tvscks, 02:43:45 05/22/03 Thu
- Valid Points...but -- IDAHO, 02:51:15 05/22/03 Thu
  - That raises my question again -- tvscks, 10:18:16 05/22/03 Thu
    - Well I think so -- IDAHO, 11:12:33 05/22/03 Thu
    - Er... -- theButterfly, 12:09:26 05/22/03 Thu
      - That's correct and reflected in the book. (NT) -- IDAHO, 13:46:09 05/22/03 Thu
        Imagine how improtant spice is After Omnius can travel Instantaniously? -- RavensZim, 16:15:37 05/22/03 Thu
- IDAHO...Ya but... -- Crysknife, 18:28:37 05/22/03 Thu
  - Well I disagree -- IDAHO, 20:21:03 05/22/03 Thu
    - I'll buy that, Idaho. (NT) -- tvscks, 21:01:09 05/22/03 Thu
      - too Star Warish I think. -- Crysknife, 02:23:40 05/23/03 Fri
        But it IS like you said -- IDAHO, 12:49:57 05/23/03 Fri
        But it IS like you said -- IDAHO, 13:55:59 05/23/03 Fri
        Ahh but it does conflict..... final thoughts -- Crysknife, 19:25:44 05/23/03 Fri
        Well, actually Dune could never exist either -- IDAHO, 22:00:57 05/23/03 Fri
        Still Dune is a future if only a fantastic future. -- Crysknife, 22:36:41 05/23/03 Fri
        Well...if energy is everywhere...what about the force -- IDAHO, 01:25:58 05/24/03 Sat
        Lighten up? Not when it comes to Dune. -- Crysknife, 09:25:25 05/24/03 Sat
        Your analogies don't make sense becasue they are NOT closer to reality -- IDAHO, 14:22:40 05/24/03 Sat
        OH GOD STOP!!!!! Are you even listening to yourself??? -- theButterfly, 17:59:21 05/24/03 Sat
        How about this as an explanation..and GOD listen to YOURSELF -- IDAHO, 20:33:29 05/24/03 Sat
        Ah, thank you. -- theButterfly, 19:57:52 05/25/03 Sun
        Thanks for the thoughtful reply, but I think I made my points already so I don't need to rehash. Peace (NT) -- IDAHO, 22:22:24 05/25/03 Sun
        What the worms eat -- AntiPaul, 06:46:28 05/26/03 Mon
        But how does the worm metabolize that? (NT) -- IDAHO, 14:17:12 05/26/03 Mon
        Silica (Any chemistry majors out there?) -- AnitPaul, 15:54:37 05/26/03 Mon
        Frank Herbert on Ecology...How about the later novels? -- IDAHO, 17:21:32 05/26/03 Mon
        Not knocking Pre's -- AnitPaul, 17:59:19 05/26/03 Mon
        Too each his own, that's perfectly valid. (NT) -- IDAHO, 18:27:34 05/26/03 Mon
        Idaho -- Crysknife, 18:17:42 05/26/03 Mon
        I was joking about The Star Wars Star Trek travel -- IDAHO, 18:36:26 05/26/03 Mon
  - Pre-spice space travel -- Ghanima, 16:25:28 05/27/03 Tue
    - Ghanima -- Crysknife, 17:57:53 05/27/03 Tue
      - OK guy -- Ghanima, 18:35:20 05/27/03 Tue
        Well... -- Crysknife, 21:28:00 05/27/03 Tue
        Let's see, it's accepted, it makes sense, it fits, it's canon you are wrong, and that's it. (NT) -- IDAHO, 00:43:11 05/28/03 Wed
        baahaaaaaah <-- that's supposed to be sheep sounds (NT) -- theButterfly, 14:15:47 05/28/03 Wed
        it's not accepted by me, it doesn't fit, I don't consider it canon and most of all it doesn't make sense. Peace. (NT) -- Crysknife, 15:02:42 05/28/03 Wed
        Well you are in the minority, which kinda makes it canon. (NT) -- IDAHO, 18:17:00 05/28/03 Wed
        If you accept the abomination then you can call it canon. Time will tell if I stay in the minority. (NT) -- Crysknife, 20:29:51 05/28/03 Wed
        This is my last post, but you call it abomination, I call it "pre-born"!!!!!!! (NT) -- IDAHO, 00:48:26 05/29/03 Thu
        Just as Alia was a pre-born and an abomination, so is the B.Jihad!!!!....This is fun! (NT) -- Crysknife, 13:13:42 05/29/03 Thu
        okay, so I lied, but Ghanima and Leto II weren't abonimation and neither is BJ. (NT) -- IDAHO, 13:21:25 05/29/03 Thu
So what's after Dune 7 -- IDAHO, 04:14:30 05/26/03 Mon
- The Typhoon Struggle and how many galaxies. -- AntiPaul, 07:11:08 05/26/03 Mon
  - The Empire spans many galaxies -- RavensZim, 11:03:16 05/26/03 Mon
  - I agree...I wasn't enthralled with Serena -- IDAHO, 14:13:55 05/26/03 Mon
- mixed feelings on Dune 7 -- theButterfly, 17:28:52 05/26/03 Mon
  - Butterfly...you are a guy? -- IDAHO, 18:51:37 05/26/03 Mon
    - I bet I would've made a great lesbian. -- theButterfly, 07:51:25 05/27/03 Tue
- Yes I agree -- Crysknife, 19:34:35 05/26/03 Mon
  - Anything can happen if the fans lobby -- IDAHO, 00:25:02 05/27/03 Tue
    - You mean like a six-hour GEoD miniseries that emphasizes the philosophy and says "screw you" to the idiots? (NT) -- theButterfly, 07:55:31 05/27/03 Tue
the duniverse -- chairdog, 01:09:42 05/26/03 Mon
old suject, new thread. Read RavensZim, Idaho and Butterfly -- The Cannabist, 19:31:26 05/15/03 Thu
- Fresh memory... -- tvscks, 21:13:49 05/15/03 Thu
  - Vernius didn't for his son's sake... let the boy have a chance (NT) -- The Cannabist, 22:37:14 05/15/03 Thu
  - I get your point. Had to look from father's perspected, which I'm not. (NT) -- tvscks, 15:11:16 05/16/03 Fri
- The baron was an obnoxious glutton -- RavensZim, 05:07:53 05/16/03 Fri
  - Unless Frank gave his blessing, tacitly or not, to Brian to continue the series (NT) -- IDAHO, 13:00:52 05/16/03 Fri
- Baron and Mohiam -- IDAHO, 12:51:35 05/16/03 Fri
- to IDAHO: logic fallacy -- theButterfly, 14:02:30 05/16/03 Fri
  - WEll then what happens when Frank Herbert Contradicts himself -- IDAHO, 15:40:14 05/16/03 Fri
- specific examples of prequel problems -- theButterfly, 14:10:30 05/16/03 Fri
  - specific examples, part 2 -- theButterfly, 14:12:09 05/16/03 Fri
    - My god...none of those are plot inconsistencies, but things you didn't like in the writing (NT) -- IDAHO, 15:56:52 05/16/03 Fri
      - but they are inconsistencies -- DuneFan, 23:40:59 05/22/03 Thu
    - I agree with Idaho.. those are not plot inconsistencies. -- The Cannabist, 16:19:07 05/16/03 Fri
      - I concede that point for now, but... -- theButterfly, 19:25:16 05/16/03 Fri
        these quibbles you have are so minor -- IDAHO, 02:15:32 05/17/03 Sat
  - You were pointing out things that you found distasteful about the writing... -- IDAHO, 15:52:30 05/16/03 Fri
    - These are inconsistancies. -- theButterfly, 18:55:47 05/16/03 Fri
      - Sounds like stupidty rather than Elegance -- IDAHO, 02:18:52 05/17/03 Sat
        Hmmm! I could be wrong... -- theButterfly, 22:29:25 05/18/03 Sun
        Well what does Canon actually mean? -- IDAHO, 00:52:19 05/19/03 Mon
  - wrong again... Frank mentioned the Harkonnens early no-fields in Heretics. The no-globe Teg hid in is the one built in trilogy. (NT) -- The Cannabist, 16:16:55 05/16/03 Fri
    - I agree with Butterfly -- RavensZim, 16:33:18 05/16/03 Fri
      - Oh how wrong you are -- IDAHO, 18:10:06 05/16/03 Fri
        Goodbye -- RavensZim, 21:32:13 05/19/03 Mon
        When were you censored? huh? (NT) -- TheCannabist, 23:08:09 05/19/03 Mon
        My last two messages did not appear-is it internet error? sorry (NT) -- RavensZim, 05:02:00 05/20/03 Tue
  - Patience being a virtue and all... -- Ghanima, 16:15:53 05/22/03 Thu
"House Corrino" -- tvscks, 00:17:21 05/18/03 Sun
New Topic: Saint Chenoeh - Why? -- AntiPaul, 07:37:39 05/18/03 Sun
Ghanima and Farad'n -- Lor, 18:06:23 05/17/03 Sat
- Leto Hints -- AntiPaul, 21:07:10 05/17/03 Sat
Alia's titles -- Reston, 15:03:57 04/29/03 Tue
- Hmmm...I'm not completely sure but... -- Irulan Corrino-Atreides, 19:04:57 05/13/03 Tue
Bene Gesserit -- Jim, 11:42:51 05/13/03 Tue
- answers.. -- The Cannabist, 12:16:48 05/13/03 Tue
- second question -- theButterfly, 17:32:22 05/13/03 Tue
Religion of the Tleilaxu -- IDAHO, 17:51:34 05/11/03 Sun
- The deep Faith -- AntiPaul, 19:53:23 05/11/03 Sun
  - Weird -- IDAHO, 20:41:23 05/11/03 Sun
    - bt religion -- chairdog, 16:19:10 05/12/03 Mon
New Dune series or lack thereof -- IDAHO, 11:54:46 05/01/03 Thu
- new Dune series or lack thereof -- Asharp, 15:57:15 05/01/03 Thu
  - First Dune did well, COD not as well -- IDAHO, 18:38:05 05/01/03 Thu
- oh Sci Fi -- theButterfly, 00:05:12 05/02/03 Fri
  - I happen to disagree with you -- IDAHO, 00:45:55 05/02/03 Fri
    - I will agree that her acting wasn't the problem. -- theButterfly, 02:39:04 05/02/03 Fri
      - Well... -- G-Lock, 05:23:42 05/02/03 Fri
        On the BG and spice... -- tvscks, 00:05:55 05/03/03 Sat
        Wensicia in the mini is Older -- IDAHO, 00:18:44 05/03/03 Sat
        Hey again -- tvscks, 23:54:12 05/03/03 Sat
        Okay -- IDAHO, 01:36:03 05/04/03 Sun
        I think you said it better than I could... -- tvscks, 19:45:00 05/04/03 Sun
      - Did they change it for her or did they change it first -- IDAHO, 11:51:44 05/02/03 Fri
        All good points... -- theButterfly, 15:32:55 05/02/03 Fri
        I knew you were the same B-Fly -- IDAHO, 16:33:40 05/02/03 Fri
        Again well... -- G-Lock, 18:47:24 05/02/03 Fri
        Yet another view on the tired subjects of Sarandon and future mini's -- Irulan Corrino-Atreides, 21:46:11 05/02/03 Fri
        Oh you PRUDE! -- IDAHO, 23:59:42 05/02/03 Fri
        Whatever... -- G-Lock, 03:14:34 05/03/03 Sat
        Alright, Alright.... -- Irulan Corrino-Atreides, 20:23:09 05/10/03 Sat
        The new minies -- DriftMaker, 22:34:14 05/03/03 Sat
        Myth of the Messiah -- IDAHO, 01:26:25 05/04/03 Sun
        Confusion -- DriftMaker, 09:58:09 05/04/03 Sun
God Emperor mentions Norma Cenva -- RavensZim, 19:09:07 05/03/03 Sat
- Machines with Prescience -- IDAHO, 00:04:15 05/05/03 Mon
  - one little line and you say everyone is wrong? (NT) -- The Cannabist, 11:21:26 05/05/03 Mon
    - just kidding around...no worries -- IDAHO, 12:27:00 05/05/03 Mon
      - That's what I thought about... -- The Cannabist, 12:53:50 05/05/03 Mon
        Leto hints that the ixians aren't creating the prescient machine, but.... -- RavensZim, 20:51:35 05/05/03 Mon
        True...but... -- IDAHO, 23:21:25 05/05/03 Mon
        okay, but that was a reputed act... -- The Cannabist, 00:22:33 05/06/03 Tue
        We'll never know for sure NT (NT) -- IDAHO, 10:10:58 05/06/03 Tue
      - Oh, come on! -- theButterfly, 21:29:26 05/05/03 Mon
        Okay, you're not exactly 'simple', IDAHO -- theButterfly, 21:32:28 05/05/03 Mon
        NO worries. :-) NT (NT) -- IDAHO, 23:24:31 05/05/03 Mon
        Face Dancers are the Machines? -- IDAHO, 23:23:42 05/05/03 Mon
        It could be anything -- AntiPaul, 19:05:16 05/07/03 Wed
Destruction of Rakis -- Morphius DoH, 22:43:51 05/05/03 Mon
- It's a weapon the HM's brought. It's a ball of ash now. -- The Cannabist, 23:05:22 05/05/03 Mon
  - I think you ARE wrong. -- theButterfly, 15:01:09 05/06/03 Tue
    - I didn't mean THAT weapon... I meant ANOTHER, since it wasn't spelled out. (NT) -- The Cannabist, 16:52:59 05/06/03 Tue
Connection to Greek myths -- Green Phoenix, 21:19:58 04/27/03 Sun
- Yes -- DriftMaker, 01:48:43 04/29/03 Tue
Notebooks of Frank Herbert's Dune and The Songs of Muad'Dib -- Cervantes, 16:39:20 04/27/03 Sun
- Aske and ye shall receive -- The Cannabist, 18:42:50 04/27/03 Sun
*Reminder* This page only holds 350 messages -- The Cannabist, 16:03:18 04/27/03 Sun
Tleilaxu -- G-Lock, 22:34:42 04/26/03 Sat
- clearing :-) -- The Cannabist, 23:17:08 04/26/03 Sat
  - Thanx -- G-Lock, 05:30:08 04/27/03 Sun
4 quick questions -- TheSeeker, 20:56:50 04/26/03 Sat
- Answers -- The Cannabist, 21:40:59 04/26/03 Sat
No-Ships -- Morphius DoH, 08:53:14 04/25/03 Fri
- Think Star Trek --- It's a Cloaked vessel, cannot be seen, or heard by man or machine. (NT) -- The Cannabist, 09:58:31 04/25/03 Fri
  - Thanks -- Morphius DoH, 10:39:30 04/25/03 Fri
- Re: No-Ships -- DriftMaker, 10:05:25 04/25/03 Fri
  - no-technology*spoilers* -- chairdog, 10:54:52 04/25/03 Fri
    - but you forgot to mention.. *spoilers* -- The Cannabist, 12:41:53 04/25/03 Fri
      - i was thinking about -- chairdog, 12:53:15 04/25/03 Fri
        did you try... -- Veon, 21:35:09 04/25/03 Fri
        No-room -- DriftMaker, 15:35:21 04/26/03 Sat
        Oops -- DriftMaker, 15:47:30 04/26/03 Sat
    - BG and no-ships *spoilers* -- bloodsucker, 23:38:46 04/25/03 Fri
    - No-techs... -- tvscks, 13:31:49 04/26/03 Sat
- Two versions *spoilers* -- Veon, 21:33:04 04/25/03 Fri
  - that was by choice -- The Cannabist, 22:32:42 04/25/03 Fri

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