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Date Posted: 18:05:06 06/19/03 Thu
Author: IDAHO
Subject: You fool, can't you discern any subleties?
In reply to: Ghanima 's message, "Uhhh...." on 15:39:58 06/19/03 Thu

When you define a word, you give it's meaning. My logic is subtle enough to discern the difference between different words and their meanings. Apparently yours is not.

Is an any act of aggression defined as war? If you think so, you are wrong.
An attack of one group of people on another is aggression or violence, it isn't necessarily war because that is a specific type or state of violence.
War entails a specific goal, it also entails armed conflict. This entails two sides in conflict. When one group enacts a pogrom, or genocide, it is a systematic killing, not necessarily an armed conflict. It doesn't necessarily involve acts of aggression on both sides.
Can't you realize the difference?
You are calling ALL violent acts WAR. That is completely fallacious!

If you beat some kid up and steal his lunch money, is that War? It isn't.

Don't get me wrong. I am not saying genocide and war are completely unrelated. They are completely related.
The point is that there are different states of violent conflict. Genocide and war are not the same things.
Some of the roots of Genocide and War can be the same, but they themselves aren't.

It is not my fault that 30 people at your work are uninformed. Most people are.

There are nuances to the words you choose. A bagel and a doughnut, while both having holes in the center, and being products for human consumption, aren't the same thing. That is all I am saying.
Discerning the differences between them isn't illogical or stupid.

As far as the U.S. military, their function is different than that of domestic police. While part of their job is to protect the State from attacks primarily from other states, this is not always their function in our globalized world. Many times the are inserted to accomplish a task where the security of the State isn't directly at stake at all. Good examples of this are Bosnia, Somalia, Vietnam, etc.
Also, while our U.S. military is supposedly "just" in their actions (though in many instances they are not), other countries don't necessarily use their military for the same purpose, so using the U.S. military as an example for all military forces isn't particularly apt.

If the military's job was the same as the domestic police, then the U.S. military wouldn't wage unprovocated war on states. It has done this on numerous occassions.

Oh yeah, and you don't "pole" somewhat at work. You "poll" them. Again, I recommend getting a dictionary, it might help you out.

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