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Date Posted: 11:16:11 09/22/12 Sat
Author: chuckit25
Author Host/IP: cpe-76-84-128-83.neb.res.rr.com / 76.84.128.83
Subject: Re: I agree...
In reply to: Robert 's message, "I agree..." on 11:54:13 09/21/12 Fri

Those 2 cents are shiny...I find myself going through each of the character's journeys, and discover quite the “wish list,”

I find your interpretation of season 6 quite generous and sensitive. I found “everyone addicted/obsessed/depressed,” all at the same time as much fun as a nurse in a prison of flu victims, hurling at both ends. And when ideas ran out, let’s show shirtless Spike. Which was the point. But, seriously, I wouldn’t pay to see it for months on end. I never had seen “shame and blame” laid on with a back hoe, and has actually never recovered, on what had been lovingly rolled and layered in a fairy tale “pastry surprise.” But then, I find Freud and thus, existentialism bankrupt, too.

Season 4 tried to show more of “the real world,” and “Joss was doing ATS,” plus no budget. The backstage story from now on becomes part of the narrative. Those not knowing it see a completely different and deeply linear story. That’s the Dealio, peeps.

Dawn’s arrival changed the game into dual worlds of the psychological world and that of “dirt.” Buffy became an avatar to Dawn, the real girl and thus, the journey offered was no longer in the nature of the introvert’s experience within and without. The nature of “duality” thus changed in POV ( Thus, half the story is always missing, which is given POV by merely flipping over the narrative onto a character opposite). I found the greatest satisfaction in the paradox—I don’t think anyone thinks Surprise/Innocence and Becoming didn’t hold paradox, for Buffy, (and, therefore Angel), for example, and that is what the mythical “union of opposites” looks like in solution/dissolution, with death as the overarching metaphor, itself a paradox of endings/beginnings. So, “existentialism/atheism as the agenda” is just a bit bankrupt to me.

The use of characters also changed. Cordy’s destabilization was (funny) and brave in dealing with the realities of self, and self in the world; I wish she hadn’t gone to ATS even if Anya was funny, funny. However, Anya suffered no real consequence and she was turned into meat as “that just happens,” (when the real myth of Eurydice and Orpheus is he actually gets the girl—but Joss wanted Xander/himself to “win” Buffy, his own avatar: the 14 year old girl as “female principle” and he did in season eight.

I wish I had seen your story line, as well, as the story structure would have better knit. Even the use of Oz, the "wolf" is important to the story line of both Angel and Buffy, as the Hart; while Oz also represented something very fundamental in the “Turtle” (his laconic introversion and his van) that are specific to Buffy herself e.g. what holds up the world in one myth: Turtles: “all the way down.” Hee hee. Which they dragged into season 8 anyway. But I have no idea if Oz was indeed one of the wolves. Like real life, I guess we don’t know how things go, but the beauty of a fiction means a narrative can actually include these “side trips,” that give the back story to action v reaction, especially having the separate arcs and books available in comics that may not support an entire series spin off. (I do think Spike and Faith would have worked, BTW. They seem “same,” but actually are opposites, as well, but in protecting kids, not having them—an interesting “spiritual” journey re independence/co dependence and finding place. Oh, well).

So agree also on the First Evil. I thought it was “desire,”—inclusive of “ the sex is evil” trope, and the idea of wanting/fearing motherhood, not just “father,”—as desire is the basis of will, i.e. accepting how things are to actually “create” choice and, therefore, duality, for “free will,” i.e. the “basis” of existentialism. And it turns out it was “fear,.”whatever the face. Which, should have been good, but the “power” of it…not so much. Waxing and waning ubervamp strength had more to do with how brittle her “steel” was. So…” Buffy” still has to kill Daddy?” (scoff).

I think season 8 did a great job on showing the “loop” of timelines, the Guardian who died I think was also Willow, who also died on the other end in Fray. However, I hate it. Buffy murders her best friend. There was no reason to have to “go back to the present” as there were thousands of slayers to take on “her duty.” She should have helped Fray v Harth. Just like the counselor, who actually knew “the deal”—including don’t go down into the basement—she did nothing. Great hero, great feminism, great mercy,, great wisdom being shared. Not. And then integration of a roofied “normal” and “robot” without a glitch…just wow….creamy sewage on rye. Yummmm.

Season 5, with Joss in 4 and 5t, especially with what you have adapted, with a better handling of psychological vs “dirt” : more like Connor, who tends to “disappear” a lot, for extremely good reason, as THE STORY is the heroic struggle within to deal with inner and exterior world information/experience/imagination.

Be well
chuckit25

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