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Subject: Re: Yale joins Dartmouth in restoring admissions Testing Requirement Author: SpuytenDuyvil76 (Modest Proposal) [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 06:51:50 03/06/24 Wed In reply to: Son of Eli 's message, "Yale joins Dartmouth in restoring admissions Testing Requirement" on 09:23:33 02/22/24 Thu What may be missing in this discussion is an acknowledgement the "requirement" was dropped. Thus, submitting standardized test scores was, and is, optional. I would bet, modestly of course, that the vast majority of truly competitive applicants, including athletes, took the preps and the various rounds of testing, and submitted their best scores. I don't suppose there are any figures in this regard but would be curious to see if some institutions are willing to release the data. Me thinks you gentle folk have gotten your undergarments twisted in a knot. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> [> Subject: Re: Yale joins Dartmouth in restoring admissions Testing Requirement Author: RedWin [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 18:22:29 03/07/24 Thu Again, as someone who has interviewed Ivy students many times over the years, I think part of the admissions process should be focusing on well-rounded students and not just students who can ace a standardized test. In reality, a significant number of the students we have interviewed, are simply not employable. Whether you work for Goldman Sachs or Google, you have to be able adapt to their culture and vision, meaning getting along with people and having strong teamwork skills. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: One Generation Looks Back on Another Author: An Observer [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 20:41:19 03/08/24 Fri RW, if you are in the mood to favor us with more explication, I for one would like to hear more about your assertion that, "in reality, a significant number of the students we have interviewed are simply not employable." I am well aware there have probably been few generations who did not think that the one behind them could use some bucking up. Classic "get off my lawn." But I am shocked at where the children of my friends are at this stage in life. I'd say about a third of them are living at home, unemployed or underemployed, trying to find themselves. This during the strongest labor market in the past quarter-century. It's not universal and our generation wasn't perfect, by any means. But the percent of my class which graduated from college and then kind of spun their wheels was low, maybe 5%. The current cohort between the age of 22 and 27 seems to be around 30-40%. Part of this is that the real cost of housing has gone way up in the past two generations. But it's not just that they're living at home with Mom and Dad, it's that they are like Benjamin in "The Graduate," aimless and unmotivated. Speaking of inter-generational comparisons. . . . Is this my imagination or my looming senior years talking? Sometimes I think that growing up in a time of affluence and comfort can be a real handicap. If you've never known discomfort, what makes you go? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]