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Subject: Re: The Way to Defend A Hail Mary Pass Author: P-Fan [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 06:48:19 10/30/24 Wed In reply to: An Observer 's message, "The Way to Defend A Hail Mary Pass" on 14:48:22 10/29/24 Tue Which is why I would rush at least four or maybe five. I hate just giving the QB all the time in the world. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> [> Subject: Dartmouth did that in 1990 against Cornell Author: Go Green [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 09:00:14 10/30/24 Wed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRy8EqToZ9k See just before the 36 minute mark. Dartmouth defended an obvious Hail Mary situation against Cornell with our usual base defense and Cover 2. It nearly backfired when our corner mistimed his jump and allowed the Cornell receiver to make the catch at the Dartmouth 5. Fortunately, the Dartmouth safety was there to make the tackle at the Dartmouth 2 when time expired. Coach Lyons (who was defensive coordinator at the time) later expressed regret to me privately that we weren't in the usual prevent defense for a Hail Mary on that play. I never asked him why not--did he just blow it, or did he call for prevent defense and was either overruled by Teevens or the call didn't make it to the players due to whatever miscommunication. That ended up being an important play for the 1990 season. It was Cornell's only loss and we shared the title with them that year. Cornell hasn't won a title since. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Re: The Way to Defend A Hail Mary Pass Author: Lurker [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 15:06:24 10/30/24 Wed I dont know why teams dont use exclusively quick DEs and LBs to rush in these situations. You know qb will hold ball for extra few seconds. Have your quick guys run around the Oline rather than through them. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Re: The Way to Defend A Hail Mary Pass Author: An Observer [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 15:20:34 10/30/24 Wed Lurker makes an excellent point which you rarely hear mentioned. Obviously, you don't need the heft of a traditional defensive lineman because you don't care about stopping the run. You just want to keep the quarterback from doing exactly what Daniels did, run around and give all his guys plenty of time to get to the goal line and align themselves into their preferred "diamond" configuration. People who are Go Green's age will remember that, WAAAAAYYY back in the day, Princeton would occasionally rush the opposing quarterback in end-of-game situations with their wide receiver Michael Lerch. I'll bet he was 5'9" and 170. He was also by two steps the quickest guy on the field. Lurker is correct. Your only concern is harassing the quarterback from all directions. You know he won't run so you don't need to contain the edge. You just need to make sure that the quarterback doesn't run to one side of the field and then reverse direction, losing his three 300-pound pursuers behind him. Rush four Michael Lerch's and give the quarterback no more than four seconds to throw the ball. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> Subject: I agree Author: Go Green [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 16:07:29 10/30/24 Wed I always thought that was good strategy on Princeton's part. No idea why teams (including Princeton since Lerch's graduation) don't do it. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]