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Subject: COLUMBIA MBB upsets Villanova
Author: Sons of knickerbocker	[ Next Thread \| Previous Thread \| Next Message \| Previous Message ] Date Posted: 21:32:25 11/06/24 Wed Columbia MBB just upset Villanova on the road 90-80. Biggest win for the program in years. [ Next Thread \| Previous Thread \| Next Message \| Previous Message ]

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[> Subject: Re: COLUMBIA MBB upsets Villanova
Author: Boston Lion [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 21:44:36 11/06/24 Wed Solid performance knocking off Kenpom #31 with four Lions in double figures. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: I'm only upset that you're calling it an upset.
Author: Valmas (Stouc) [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 21:52:51 11/06/24 Wed They're now a team of savvy upperclassmen that won by ten; and, yes, it's probably the program's biggest win since the Lions won at Villanova, then coached by Jay Wright, a decade ago. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Re: COLUMBIA MBB upsets Villanova
Author: Lion Rooter [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 07:20:13 11/07/24 Thu hey valmas pay attention there - you spelled stoic wrong b- how did that get posted? -- yes big win for columbia - expect a dartmouth backer to come on now and deflate our elation [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: That Dartmouth backer's lived rent-free inside your head for quite some time.
Author: Valmas (Stoic) [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 13:53:29 11/07/24 Thu That explains after all why you're lying, lion loser. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: This Feels Big. Why Jim Engles Needs to Send Flowers to Megan Griffith.

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An Observer
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Date Posted: 11:13:53 11/07/24 Thu

This feels like a really, really big win. Hearty congratulations to the Lions.

We had a discussion in an earlier thread in which I made the broad point -- not just applicable to Columbia -- that I would have a hard time voting a high pre-season poll position to a team which returned all of its underclassmen from a 4-10 squad. My general point is that we've seen that squad's capability. Usually, "they are who we thought they are." I'd be more optimistic about a team which had promising bench players who got fewer minutes for a championship team the year before.

So maybe Columbia will provide a rebuttal to my thesis.

I do think that, across the college basketball landscape, having a thriving MEN'S team makes it easier to build a successful women's team. The women's coach can point to big crowds and campus/community enthusiasm for the men's team while saying to recruits, "Look at that. The potential for excitement and team support is here on this campus. We just have to build it."

The Columbia men's team finds itself in the opposite situation.

The MEN'S program can now say to recruits, "Look at our women's team. They can win Ivy championships. They're two-time defending champs [tied, of course -- leave that for the recruits to figure out]."

I live in Connecticut where Jim Calhoun famously hated the success achieved by Geno Auriemma. Calhoun was jealous and dismissive of Auriemma's crowds, which skewed older and female. He would refer to them derisively with pejorative names like "the early bird special crowds." I think Calhoun was making a mistake. Don't resent Auriemma, take advantage of his presence and the air of success he built on campus.

One of the biggest winners from the success of my girlfriend Megan Griffith is Jim Engles. I hope he sent her flowers after each championship won.

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[> [> Subject: First of all, this thread's attention is to Columbia MEN'S basketball.

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Valmas (Stoic)
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Date Posted: 09:58:37 11/10/24 Sun

Initiate your own thread and give it whatever direction you want. Secondly, it was explained to you, more than 30 days ago, that Columbia's men's basketball team would be a more competitive version of its former self; that there is 4-10 resembling 1-13 and more 4-10 looking a lot like 7-7, which this team was in '23-'24. But don't take my word for it - ask Ken Pomeroy.

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: First of all, this thread's attention is to Columbia MEN'S basketball.
Author: sparman [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 10:33:03 11/10/24 Sun For some reason there aren't many howls of protest about the MBB coach. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> Subject: No Howls - Criquets!

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Valmas (Stoic)
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Date Posted: 14:39:01 11/10/24 Sun

Just looking at objective facts: kids are not leaving the program prematurely, as they were five, six and seven years ago. He's got five seniors, who've been with him for 4 years - set to graduate and contributing to the team and one of them (Geronimo de la Rosa), an Ivy League Player of the Year candidate; he starts four juniors; as well some other capable recruits - current sophs and freshmen - coming off the bench. His team's 147th in the country - ahead of Duquesne's Mighty Dukes and sixty-one spots ahead of Harvard (https://kenpom.com/). Moreover, he's currently 3-0 and has a great rabbi in the hereafter! If only the poor woman running the place had a rabbi half as talented, she'd still be there on a lifetime contract, too!

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[> [> Subject: Re: This Feels Big. Why Jim Engles Needs to Send Flowers to Megan Griffith.

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John Harvard
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Date Posted: 10:12:02 11/11/24 Mon

88 KP slots ahead of Harvard.
That gap will probably grow larger.
The departure of Mack & Okpara and then Simon deciding to sit out the season really screwed Amaker.
Also, Lesmond has yet to suit up during his senior season. Wondering if he will?

Wondering if the Lions find this to be their year as Princeton and Yale have already stumbled.

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: This Feels Big. Why Jim Engles Needs to Send Flowers to Megan Griffith.
Author: joiseyfan [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 11:03:37 11/11/24 Mon Princeton has stumbed? Elaborate. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Re: This Feels Big. Why Jim Engles Needs to Send Flowers to Megan Griffith.
Author: John Harvard [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 13:05:31 11/11/24 Mon Princeton hasn't lost (3-0), but it certainly hasn't been impressive for a team KP #86 Beat #152 Duquesne by 7 Beat #188 Northeastern by 3 Beat #201 Iona by 1 Hosting Loyola of Chicago (#89) at Jadwin is a real contest this Friday. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Re: COLUMBIA MBB upsets Villanova
Author: Ed S. [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 22:12:48 11/10/24 Sun The Ivy League should be wide open for the taking, and Columbia has a great chance to win it this year based on their start. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Re: COLUMBIA MBB upsets Villanova
Author: The Mountain Lion [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 12:09:43 11/11/24 Mon I would like to see whether Engles can coach a winnable close game or two against decent opponents before I get too excited. Geronimo de la Rosa is a terrific basketball player on a very good team, but the Engles Honeymoon Arrangement is still baffling. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]