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Subject: Danny Wolf, Michigan star Author: Memphis Bill [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 21:15:14 01/05/25 Sun Danny Wolf was outstanding in Saturday’s victory over USC. 21 points, 7 assists, and the most blocks for Wolverines since 2011. Sad for Yale and our league that we couldn’t keep this stellar ballplayer, but he Must be raking in big NIL bucks, establishing NBA draft Credibility, and a U of M degree is not too shabby. It is now interesting to see Wolf’s face on network ads promoting upcoming Michigan games, but that is what NIL is all about: if his face and skills are being used to promote games that Bring in revenue in the millions, Why shouldn't he get his share? [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> Subject: Re: Danny Wolf, Michigan star Author: M3 [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 07:21:20 01/06/25 Mon "You have proven in the Ivy League that you are an excellent college athlete. Come to a Power 4 conference where you will make serious money, have fans who actually attend your games and get a an excellent degree. After all, whats so bad about.....Michigan" Rinse watch repeat D3 here we come [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Re: Danny Wolf, Michigan star Author: M3 [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 07:32:42 01/06/25 Mon Make that Rinse wash repeat [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Re: Danny Wolf, Michigan star Author: Bengal [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 09:20:08 01/06/25 Mon Answer: because he, like all college athletes,is supposedly an amateur. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Re: Danny Wolf, Michigan star Author: observer [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 10:30:50 01/06/25 Mon This hasn't been true since before Lou Gehrig barnstormed in the 1910s. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Re: Danny Wolf, Michigan star Author: Bengal [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 17:15:39 01/06/25 Mon The difference between pre-NIL and one year Div 1 sit out upon transfer, and today under NIL and no waiting period is one of vast kind, not degree. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Pretty sure it was AO who said... Author: Go Green [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 11:37:52 01/06/25 Mon ... that talking about how great Ivy basketball is because a guy left and is kicking ass for a big-time program is like talking about how great you are because your girlfriend left you for a richer, more handsome guy. I mean, it's one thing if the player leaves because he exhausted his Ivy eligibility. But its quite another because he thought he could do better than the Ivy. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Re: Pretty sure it was AO who said... Author: Watkins [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 19:13:25 01/06/25 Mon Excellent. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Re: Danny Wolf, Michigan star Author: Tiger69 [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 16:30:05 01/06/25 Mon I’m guessing that Danny won’t be showing up for his Eli Reunions. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Re: Danny Wolf, Michigan star Author: John Harvard [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 11:13:17 01/07/25 Tue The impact isn't just for transfers. Last week #50 ranked 2025 basketball recruit Elzie Harrington recommitted from Harvard to USC. Free tuition and $$$$ I'm sure. Just so discouraging to watch Harvard struggle to outlast Bowdoin while Mack (Georgetown) and Okpara (Stanford) are underclassment elsewhere and Simon is sitting out so he can graduate this year while retaining eligibility. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Life in The New Ivy League, Pro and Con Author: An Observer [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 14:05:00 01/07/25 Tue JH, I understand your pain because, if this were still the pre-NIL era, Harvard would be starting Mack, Okpara and Simon. The 2025 Ivy race would look completely different. You'd be buying your Pizzitola tickets already. I get that you can't help but think, "What if?" Here's the way I look at it. It was always incumbent upon Ivy League coaches to seek legitimate students for their rosters. Historically, we evaluated "legitimate" by using the League-imposed AI criteria. If a recruit cleared the AI floor (with or without a PG year at any number of boarding schools who were happy to have a stud athlete for a rental season), he was deemed a legitimate, serious student worthy of an Ivy degree. Well, now we're simply definining "legitimate" more narrowly. If a guy has the requisite SAT scores, but would be swayed by the siren call of NIL money after his freshman year, that is 100% his prerogative in the Brave New World, but he no longer fits our screen. Now when James Jones or Mitch Henderson hit the recruiting trail, they've got to really figure out whether this kid who shows basketball promise really WANTS a Yale or Princeton education. If not, Jones/Henderson should move on because that kid will not be around for four years. It's more complicated for Amaker because, historically, Coach Amaker has aimed higher than Jones or Henderson has. Harvard recruits almost by definition will attract more high major attention, with their attendant booster money. So Amaker will have to work harder to get to know the kid as a student and a young man. Does he really want a Harvard education? If not, either plan for a one-and-done or move on. I've said here before: The tragedy of our not being willing to play the NIL game is that the 2023 Sweet Sixteen and the 2024 upset over Auburn will likely become wistful memories for Ivy basketball fans. We'll win again, but our trajectory is down, not up. Having said that, we'll have athletes who really want to get up early for Physics 101 and debate Kant with their classmates over meals. And I like that. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Re: Life in The New Ivy League, Pro and Con Author: observer [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 14:18:57 01/07/25 Tue What is an Ivy League education these days, anyway? Look around at what passes for "educated" Ivy "students" in the past year, and one could get the idea that those enrolled (mostly non-athletes) are dummies of the highest order. Brand reputations can disappear overnight. Xerox and Kodak once had 90% market share in their respective industries. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Life in The New Ivy League, Pro and Con Author: An Observer [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 14:57:17 01/07/25 Tue I agree with you, observer, and not just because of YOUR brand name. Brand reputations can change and disappear. You don't need to go as far back as Xerox and Kodak dominating in the 60's and 70's. How about Nokia? Intel? Hewlett-Packard? Texas Instruments? These companies dominated in the 2000's and 2010's. How many of you had ever heard of Nvidia before 2022? Now it is arguably the most important company in the world. Not the largest market cap, the most important. When Jack Welch retired from General Electric in 2001, the consensus on Wall Street and among fawning analysts was, "This is the best run corporation on earth. A unique portfolio of industrial and financial operating companies which define corporate synergy." Now when people talk about GE at all, it's usually in reference to corporate earnings manipulation. Brand reputations do change. A lot. Having said that, university reputations change more slowly. With the singular exception of Stanford, which rose from nowhere post-war to being on par with HYP today, maybe better than on par. HYP have been at the top of the mountain since the turn of the nineteenth century. I have a lot of theories as to why their brand names have been so stable, but for now let's just say that it will be very interesting to see what the long term effects will be from the Gay/Magill resignations and all the campus protests in particular, and the mandated heavy-duty progressive dogma in general. We take university brand names as a given, a fixed entity. They are not. University admissions officers know this. That's why, just in our own conference, Columbia so aggressively gamed their numbers. It's a competitive game. Never in our lifetimes have our eight universities been under such attack and criticism. The eight presidents and eight directors of admission can go to work every morning knowing that their actions today will make or break their institutions' reputations in three or four decades hence. I wonder whether the admissions directors at Barnard and Columbia realize just how much their jobs are affected when the New York Times publishes a photograph of a kid camped out on the Low Library lawn wearing a keffiyeh on his head. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> Subject: You're sadly correct Author: Go Green [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 16:27:19 01/07/25 Tue The Washington Post had an article not too long ago saying that Sesame Street is on life support and will likely get canceled. I was crushed... :( [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: You're sadly correct Author: Thiment [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 08:13:35 01/13/25 Mon It is really sad to read such news [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Temptations Author: An Observer [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 16:21:28 01/12/25 Sun I watched the replay of yesterday's Harvard-Princeton game. Three snippets to report: (1) Xaivian Lee, according to the play-by-play man Alex Vispoli, received offers in the neighborhood of $600,000 for a two-way NBA contract last summer when he declared for the draft to test the waters. (2) Caden Pierce is the "only" conference player of the year from a one-bid conference who is still playing for the same school. I put "only" in quotation marks because I don't know how large the sample size of returning POYs is. (3) Apparently, John Thompson III has a son who attends Harvard and is a manager on the men's basketball team. The ESPN+ sideline reporter asked JTIII which of Harvard or Princeton he was rooting for at the game. Thompson replied, "Yes, I have a son who attends Harvard. We consider him the black sheep of the family." [ Post a Reply to This Message ]