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Subject: Re: Ivy League Football Attendance Author: observer [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 18:33:55 01/16/25 Thu In reply to: Son of Eli 's message, "Ivy League Football Attendance" on 16:06:36 01/16/25 Thu Reported attendance figures are about as reliable as the FTX exchange run by Samuel Bankman-Fried [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> [> Subject: Re: Ivy League Football Attendance Author: L et V [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 19:22:48 01/16/25 Thu All this during a run of good teams. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: You're on the right path Author: Go Green [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 07:13:30 01/17/25 Fri Both Yale and Penn's attendance figures nosedived shortly after a change in athletic administrations. A popular theory was that the previous administrations played games with attendance numbers, but their replacements wanted to report the "real" numbers. The "drop" in attendance is simply what was accurate all along. Yale (and Penn) are just being honest about it now. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Re: You're on the right path Author: voy vey [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 10:04:06 01/17/25 Fri There's no question in my mind that previous Yale AD Beckett's administration padded the announced attendance figures. However, it seems equally obvious to my eyes that attendance has dropped even further since those days. So, reporting "real" numbers now does not completely account for the decrease. What else contributes? That's a long discussion which has been picked apart many times here and elsewhere. Pricing is some of it, but plenty of other factors come into play (fan experience, food, time frames, promotion/lack thereof, neighborhood outreach/lack thereof, changing student demographics, etc. etc. etc.) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: You're on the right path Author: observer [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 16:39:47 01/17/25 Fri Two things to note: The average annual media buy for Ivy League Football is close to $0. Some schools may do some banner ad purchases on social media, but for the most part, there is no effort to get the message out to the ticket buying population that the games are being played. The Ivies are insisting that people find them, rather than finding new fans. The ESPN+ broadcast deal has surely cannibalized attendance. With no reason to actually go (in-stadium experiences are not so wonderful - mediocre to poor food choices, few fan amenities, trough toilets in some places), more than a few die hards, especially students, have no problem watching from home. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]