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Subject: Re: Ivy League Football Attendance Author: IvySportsJunkie [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 16:23:00 01/17/25 Fri In reply to: Son of Eli 's message, "Ivy League Football Attendance" on 16:06:36 01/16/25 Thu While I am disappointed with the declining trends for Ivy League football attendance, I want to provide some perspective for those who feel the Ivy League is heading in the direction of becoming part of D3 athletic conferences. Let's look at the four D3 programs that would be considered most comparable to Ivy League in terms of academics and having stronger D3 football - Amherst, Williams, MIT and University of Chicago. In 2024, the average per game attendance was only 1,646 for Amherst, 1,156 for Williams, 387 for MIT and 431 for University of Chicago. The combined 2024 average per game attendance for these four D3 school is only 932 persons. This compares to the 2024 Ivy League average per game of 6,194, which is nearly 7 times greater than the average for these four D3 football programs. More importantly, if you look at the average per game attendance for their rival teams in their conferences, it is even more pathetic. Yes, it is discouraging about our Ivy attendance and the recent trend of losing players to the transfer portal due to NIL differences. However, the Ivy League clearly is miles above any of the comparable D3 athletic programs in terms of athletic talent, fan base support and football traditions. My own high school football and basketball team are able generate far better fan support than these four D3 programs. The Ivy League moving in the direction of participating in D3 athletics would be a disaster on so many levels. Food for Thought [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> [> Subject: Re: Ivy League Football Attendance Author: observer [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 16:31:42 01/17/25 Fri What makes you think that the powers that be would rather NOT be associated with Williams and Amherst than St. John's and Nebraska? This is a lost opportunity for the Ivy League. Division 1 sports can and should be a community relations and marketing tool. All eight schools are underwater in terms of perception from the general public, including in their home towns (maybe Dartmouth and Princeton excepted). That they still play the "membership in an exclusive club" game with regard to how they relate to a populist endeavor like spectator sports is very telling. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Re: Ivy League Football Attendance Author: Son of Eli [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 16:55:06 01/17/25 Fri I couldn’t agree more observer, but I hope that the recent decision to compete with the “unwashed masses” in the FCS playoffs reflects a change to that elitist paradigm. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]