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Subject: "Here's To Never F---ing Forgetting Tonight" Author: An Observer [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 17:24:20 03/04/25 Tue I'm watching an ESPN "30 For 30" documentary called "The Class That Saved Coach K." It's about the high school class of 1982 recruits (Dawkins, Bilas, Alarie, Henderson, Williams) which pulled Krzyzewki's program out of its 1980-82 tailspin, leading to resurrection and, eventually, K's first national championship in 1991. Coach K has just finished his third year and the class's freshman season 11-17 with a 109-66 blowout loss to Virginia. After the game, the coaching staff goes out to dinner at Denny's (can you imagine?) and sports information direction Johnny Moore raises his water glass to toast, "Here's to forgetting tonight." Krzyzewski cuts him off and interjects, "No, put down your glass. Here's to never f---ing forgetting tonight." And that was the trough, the low point. The next year Tommy Amaker arrives to take the ballhandling responsibilities from Dawkins and Duke was on its way to success. Usually we only see the celebrations and the net cutting. It's interesting to hear the stories about frustration, worry, uncertainty, depression, anxiety and all of the other emotions in sports and life besides winning. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> Subject: And ultimately, the level of K's debt of gratitude to Amaker was lacking. Author: Valmas (Stoic) [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 18:46:27 03/04/25 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: By all accounts, Coach K... Author: Go Green [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 06:18:07 03/05/25 Wed ... felt badly for Amaker. But according to contemporary reports, Coach K believed that he'd still have influence on the Duke program under Scheyer. He wasn't sure that would happen with anyone else (including Amaker). [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Re: And ultimately, the level of K's debt of gratitude to Amaker was lacking. Author: John Harvard [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 12:45:04 03/10/25 Mon There's a report on the basketball board that Amaker will be resigning. First I've heard of it. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Re: And ultimately, the level of K's debt of gratitude to Amaker was lacking. Author: An Observer [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 13:05:28 03/10/25 Mon I saw that, too, JH. That particular poster is in the business, so his rabbit usually has a good nose. Amaker stepping down would shock me, but I've learned that I need to be less easily shocked. If it happens, I am happy for him that he went out with two big wins. Penn has issued its press release about Coach Donahue being dismissed. Columbia fans demand nothing less from their alma mater. Equities can't find a bottom. Difficult day. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Re: "Here's To Never F---ing Forgetting Tonight" Author: Drew2411 [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 00:29:46 03/05/25 Wed Given Duke’s record this year, hard to argue with the decision. Plus doubt Amaker would have been willing to resign from Harvard to be an assistant coach for Duke in 22 as part of the transition. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Re: "Here's To Never F---ing Forgetting Tonight" Author: Drew2411 [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 16:47:42 03/05/25 Wed There was going to be no competition- needed clear succession and transition for recruiting purposes. K definitely thought Scheyer was right guy and I think age had a lot to do with it given the dramatic change in college sports landscape. Also Scheyer was already on road recruiting for Duke and successfully - unclear how Tommy would do given age and transition from Ivy to ACC [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Re: "Here's To Never F---ing Forgetting Tonight" Author: John Harvard [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 09:13:48 03/05/25 Wed If Amaker knew he'd get the job, I can't believe he wouldn't have agreed to that transition year. He might have even agreed to work alongside Scheyer in competition, but I believe Coach K didn't want that. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]