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Subject: What is Happening to Gravity?


Author:
An Observer
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Date Posted: 12:44:52 10/02/25 Thu

I don't consider myself old, but I remember when a field goal attempt of more than 45 yards was considered iffy in the NFL. For a long time, Tom Dempsey's 63-yard blast was considered untouchable, like Bob Beamon in the cool thin air of Mexico City in 1968.

Meanwhile, in college football, coaches liked to get to the 40 before even thinking about taking a "shot" at a field goal.

In the Ivy League of that time, any attempt with a 3-handle was an adventure.

What the hell has happened to kicking?

NFL kickers now are routine through 60. The top guys, like the Cowboys' Brandon Aubrey, start warming up as soon as the offense crosses midfield. Against the Packers on Sunday night, he was considered automatic inside 65. The announcers were using language, "If only the Cowboys can get close enough for a 65-yarder. . . ."

For decades, 63 was the untouchable RECORD!

Even college kickers in many cases have their coaches' confidence out to 50. Last weekend saw several 50+ yard college conversions which cleared the crossbar by 5-10 yards.

Here in our little Ivy sandbox, guys usually have the green light out to the mid-40's which for most of my experience as an Ivy fan was reserved for halftime or the end of the regulation. Can you imagine Carm Cozza or Frank Navarro sending a place kicker out onto the field for a 48-yard attempt in the first or third quarters? The fans would have questioned his sanity.

I accept that, in every position group, players are bigger, stronger and faster today. We know that. Now guys are going to kicking camp starting in ninth grade.

But gravity is still gravity. Human physiology is still human physiology. Our right legs have not gotten any longer.

Kickers are not 50% stronger than they were two decades ago. That is not physically possible.

What has happened to 9.8 meters per second squared? Everything we learned in physics is suspect now.

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[> Subject: Re: What is Happening to Gravity?


Author:
Tiger81
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Date Posted: 14:23:46 10/02/25 Thu

Great post, we are definitely in a new era of kicking performance.

Best explanation I can think of for this inflection point is increased and earlier specialization such as the advent of kicking academies and camps, which seem to have lifted the art form.

Same goes for long snappers and punters, with the antipodes getting special recognition for transforming punting technique thanks to expats from Australian Rules Football. That sport is dominated by power forward-like athletes who can kick accurately and for distance with either foot.
[> Subject: Elements are part of the issue as well


Author:
Go Green
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Date Posted: 14:45:54 10/02/25 Thu


In the old days, it was hard to kick on a muddy and/or chewed-up field. And rain, snow, and even the wind could affect a kick.

Today's field turfs provide ideal conditions for kicking. Lot more indoor stadia (at least at NFL level) as well.
[> Subject: Re: What is Happening to Gravity?


Author:
Joe Friday
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Date Posted: 15:11:20 10/02/25 Thu

Kids are beginning to train seriously in middle school. Video allows for freeze frame mechanics analysis and early correction, establishing muscle memory earlier. Targeted strength training of key muscle groups involved in kicking/punting gets them stronger earlier where it matters (yes, they’re stronger), which also lessens risk of injury, generally. As GG said, the introduction of turf grass was big for plant foot stability purposes. The cold and the wind are still the main enemies - global warming is generally good for kicking - and none of this matters if there’s not a clean snap and hold.
[> Subject: At NFL level, there's also this


Author:
sparman
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Date Posted: 17:06:42 10/02/25 Thu

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/46452926/nfl-kicking-balls-2025-rule-changes-field-goal-records-competition-committee
[> [> Subject: Re: At NFL level, there's also this


Author:
Joe Friday
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Date Posted: 19:19:04 10/02/25 Thu

The crazy thing is that the NFL is now (mostly) in alignment with high school where you can condition the football however you want, which turns the footballs into missiles if done well, although in HS I believe there’s no guarantee that the HS officials sub in the K . Still no can do at the collegiate level.
[> Subject: Handling real life obstacles may have factored into Dempsey's kicking success.


Author:
valmas (stoic)
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Date Posted: 21:40:48 10/02/25 Thu

Tom Dempsey experienced a number of significant life challenges, both physical and medical, as well as a major personal hardship - from birth and throughout his career and life thereafter. He was born with a physical disability, specifically no toes on his right foot (his kicking foot) and no fingers on his right hand.

He knew personal hardship, too (Natural Disaster): His home in Metairie, Louisiana, was flooded during Hurricane Katrina in 2005, which resulted in the loss of much of his memorabilia.
Medical Issues (Dementia): In his later years, he was diagnosed with dementia (and later Alzheimer's disease), with the initial diagnosis occurring around 2010/2012. He lived in an assisted living center for several years.
Death from Illness: He tested positive for COVID-19 in March 2020 and passed away on April 4, 2020, due to complications from the virus and his ongoing health issues.

I never had the pleasure of meeting Tom. Don't know that he was ever able to perfect the requisite physical mechanics to kick a football accurately and distantly; however, given his obvious capacity for rolling with life's punches, I'll bet he mastered the psychological portions contributing to kicking reliability; and perhaps our modern day kickers are better directed at following in examples like his
[> Subject: 68-yarder yesterday


Author:
Go Green
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Date Posted: 08:39:23 11/03/25 Mon


https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/46822888/jaguars-kicker-cam-little-sets-nfl-record-68-yard-fg
[> [> Subject: Re: 68-yarder yesterday


Author:
An Observer
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Date Posted: 11:21:31 11/03/25 Mon

Yesterday, Cam Little's kick cleared the cross bar by five yards. That sucker woulda been good from 73.

What is going on with gravity?

On ESPN College Game Day Saturday morning before the Mizzou-Vanderbilt game, Pat McAfee conducted another iteration of his weekly place kicking contest.

A Vanderbilt sophomore chemical engineering major who stood perhaps 5'5" was offered $500,000 to kick a 35-yard field goal while McAfee, Herbstreit and an assembled crowd watched.

I'm telling ya. As his kick split the uprights, it was still going up. Okay, that might be a stretch. But the kick would have been good from 55. For sure.

When I was first watching football as a kid, an NFL coach would only attempt a 45-yard field goal at the end of the first half or regulation.

Now we got a 5'5" chemical engineering student kicking 55-yard bombs.

Tie down your patio furniture. We can no longer count on gravity.


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