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Date Posted: 09:55:01 01/14/05 Fri
Author: Sundarar - 27 Dec 2004
Subject: Re: Kriya and Awakening
In reply to: m - 26 Dec 2004 's message, "Kriya and Awakening" on 09:53:57 01/14/05 Fri


Good advice.

The surrender to God or devotion is most important. This devotion has many dimensions that are ignored--especially the yama niyama ones around forgiveness and being here now. Not resisting with the ego when we don't know why the heck xyz happened. Not taking it personally.
You have to get into the zen "flow".

Take suffering as the gurus grace. When Kriyananda was booted from SRF Anandamoyima told him to take it as his gurus grace. When he had his stroke Ram Dass was angry. He felt the guru had let him down. Later he realized the value and said "my guru stroked me" with love. Campbell says the way to turn tradgedy into a religious experience is make it a voluntary act and to forgive one's enemies. When Native americans were captured and lead to the torture chamber they went bravely and proudly in a gown that was supplied by the enemy. Both understood this. Campbell sites a story to this effect in his books. This has to be lived.

Pleasant experiences are few, More common are unpleasant ones or boredom. This is good to keep in mind. We are so programmed to blaming, expecting much, lawsuits nowadays.

This is hard for westerners who are competitive, impatient and guilty in general. The westerners especially need to focus on devotion. They are geared to technique which is why Guruji said kriya is so pouplar here. In India I think the devotion is hard wired into them and the environment. It would be interesting to see the differences as to how kriya is taught in YSS and India in general.

To compare myself with great kriyabans of India past is kind of futile. I am a westerner now with western type dharma for better or worse. The thing I got most by watching the mahabharata movie was this focus on accepting ones dharma and karma gracefully.

"I don't know why this happened to me MA, but you do--its enough for me"--Bro. Premamoy

Also Dharmananda says you have to pick a speed that is appropriate for you. SWami Rama says where the body and mind match up, that is your capacity. This capacity must be ascertained so one doesn't go nuts or slack off on the other side of it.

Guruji says 'go at slow speed. Slow and steady wins the race. Be like a log fire--don't be like a brush fire that flares up fast and burns out'. He told this to Kriyananda.

How much recreation, sex, etc? Achalananda says be moderate. What is moderation I asked. "Having a little less than you want" was the answer.

Jim Morrison sang "go real slow, you like it more and more. Take it as it comes, specialize in having fun. Don't move too fast if you want your love to last...You've been moving MUCH TOO FAST!" I think this applies to many.

Jim wrote this song after meeting Mahesh Yogi of TM. He was non plussed with the meeting but went up to Mahesh and stared in his eyes for a long time. He saw something that moved him to write this song as Mahesh always said when teaching meditation to "take it as it comes". That was his biggest catch phrase it seems to me.

Guruji also told Baktananda "each must go his own way". Finding that way is hard and embracing it is harder. Each romance with God is unique--Guruji.

Sundarar

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  • Re: Kriya and Awakening -- True - 28 Dec 2004, 09:56:11 01/14/05 Fri
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