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Date Posted: 14:37:17 01/25/05 Tue
Author: Joe
Subject: Re: UBF issues and potential fallacies
In reply to: PECAS 's message, "UBF issues and potential fallacies" on 11:38:00 01/25/05 Tue

>What do you think about the following situations?
>
>1. If we state to a UBF member that if they remain in
>UBF, they will experience abuse, depception, and
>manipulation is that a fallacy? Afterall, not all
>shepherds and chapter directors are the same. We can
>say that based on our experience, there is a good
>probability that abuse, deception, and manipulation
>will occur. But is it a fallacy to assert that if you
>remain in UBF, you will be abused, deceived, and
>manipulated?

I hate to comment in the off-topic but since "anything goes," my comment is that it's probably not a logical fallacy to assert that if you remain in UBF you will experience abuse for sure. It could be an *inaccuracy*, but I don't think it is. I think there is some degree of the usual UBF abuse and dysfunctionality and unhealthy elements in every UBF chapter; everyone gets abused since they're all in the UBF system. If their chapter is "not so bad," and they are perceived to be a "growing disciple," they will be called to go to Chicago or Seoul where things are quite different (more abusive) for "training." There are chapters in my list that I never thought I would see, small chapters like Arlington, Akron and Arizona.

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Re: UBF issues and potential fallacies -- Joe, 14:48:25 01/25/05 Tue