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Date Posted: 12:11:16 04/26/12 Thu
Author: Ian McCallum
Subject: Re: St Gilbert's, Hartlebury, Worcs
In reply to: brian barrett 's message, "Re: St Gilbert's, Hartlebury, Worcs" on 18:52:06 09/12/09 Sat

Hi I was sent to St Gilbert`s in about 1960-61. It was run by the De La Salle Brothers. At that time a Brother Joseph was the headmaster. There were various members off staff who were not in the order and consequently they treated the children much better,ie Jim Wittle, Brian Selby Mr Temple{sadly killed in Snowdonia) Mr Hopely and, Mr Donnelly, who all lived in houses along the avenue along with the priest.Anyone who was there at this time knows how bad this and similar places run by religious orders were. >>>>>Hi
>>>>>My father was at St Gilbert's Approved School,
>>>>>Hartlebury, Worcs in the 1940s. He remembers it
>>>being
>>>>>run by the Christian Brothers but they deny this.
>>>>>Does anyone know how I can find out for certain who
>>>>>ran it?
>>>>>Thanks
>>>>>Lesley
>>>>
>>>>Hi Lesley
>>>>Good news. Therre are 18 'hits' at the National
>>>>Archives (old Public Records Office) website for "St
>>>>Gilbert's". It seems to have been based previously
>in
>>>>Suffolk and to have moved to Waresley House
>>Hartlebury
>>>>Worcs in 1944.
>>>>To look up relevant items, go to
>>>>www.nationalarchives.gov.uk then Search the
>Catalogue
>>>>(far left, towards the bottom, don't know why they
>>>>hide it away down there!)- then just type in St
>>>>Gilbert's -including the apostrophe.
>>>>Click on the title of each item you're interested
>in,
>>>>then if you want even more information, click on the
>>>>Full Details tab. However, you may find (as I have)
>>>>that many of the documents you'd like to see are
>>>>closed for 75 years and not available to you until -
>>>>in this case- 2018.
>>>>Most, if not all, records relating to borstals and
>>>>approved schools are 'exempt data' under the Freedom
>>>>of Information Act. You can ask specifically for
>>>>particular records to have either their 75 yr
>closure
>>>>status or their FoI exemption to be 'reviewed' but I
>>>>wouldn't hold your breath!
>>>>
>>>>I'm writing a dissertation about historic houses in
>>>>educ@tional use- hence my interest in Brandeston
>>>>House, and how I came to find your 'cri de coeur'.
>As
>>>>an historic researcher by profession, I can offer
>you
>>>>lots of guidance on where else to look for
>>information
>>>>and would be happy to do so off-forum.
>>>
>>>Leslie,
>>>It was indeed run by the Christian Brothers up until
>>>the late sixties when it became a state school
>>>following the end of Approved Schools. I was there in
>>>the late fifties.
>>>I too have found it frustratingly difficult to find
>>>information about the Brothers or the school as it
>was
>>>then.
>>This school was run by the De Lasale Brothers not the
>>Christian Brothers I was there in 61-62 and I am
>>pleased to say they are all DEAD
>my name is brian barrett and i was there in st
>gilberts approved school in 1947 1954 and im sad to
>hit this brick wall as im writing my book of my life
>as im 70 now and have a 10 yr old son belive it or not
>and i would like to add this cruel and horrible place
>in my book and its not anywere to be found can anybody
>tell me if i can view these hiden records u talk of
>and tell me how i go about this thanks mr b barrett
>liverpool

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