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Date Posted: 11:32:24 03/31/06 Fri
Author: Jes
Subject: Re: Well, ain't it the truth...
In reply to: carson1 's message, "Well, ain't it the truth..." on 10:59:19 03/31/06 Fri

1 - Raising minimum wage. I believe we need to look at this differently. I can't afford for the price of everything else to go up to compensate for the raise in minimum wage (I'm talking groceries, gas, etc.). Minimum wage should be what we pay our working high school students for working at McDonalds. They don't have bills to pay (to the extent that an adult does). That's what minimum wage should be for. Adults should have a complete seperate pay that (as long as they are full time workers) would cover a minimal of bills (rent/gas/food). Maybe a minimum wage for students and a minimum wage for non-students. Anyone who puts in at least 40 a week and is really working should have enough for the basics (and wake up America because the basics are not sattelites, car payments and bling bling). It's a damned shame that there is a group of people doing better on welfare than they would working.

We are a country of immegrants. However, I don't think our great-grandparents made the current citizens pay for their healthcare and taxes. This is what needs stopped. We shouldn't have to pay for them all.

I can't, for the life of me, explain why the administration we have right now thinks they know better than we do, but won't explain it to us. I have to assume they're hiding something that is wrong - otherwise they would be forthcoming. They have the "sheep need led" mentality (that I hate about the Democrats, and am surprised to see it in the Republicans too). There are so many opportunities in todays world to unzip that sheep suit. I just think they're out of their decade and look the fuck out when our generation takes over (in 3.5 years).

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[> Re: Well, ain't it the truth... -- chico781, 12:32:36 03/31/06 Fri [1]

I agree with you, 23. This country was built on immigrants and somehow this country became isolationist and xenophobic. That is precisely what I think Lou Dobbs is. I think it's a good idea to give them work permits because this way you'll have them all accounted for and we can charge them taxes. If you took out all of the illegal immigrants out of the country today, the country would fall apart tomorrow. Also, in regards to us paying for their healthcare, etc, there is a point to this but what a lot of people do not realize is that these illegal immigrants pay more in sales taxes than what they actually take out of healthcare, etc.

In regards to outsourcing, I think you have to have balance. You shouldn't put all of your eggs in one basket and you should have to keep eggs at home as well. Countries like India, the Philippines, etc (who get a big bulk of the outsourcing piece) also buy our products so in a way we're getting that money back. Our economy cannot sustain itself so we need other countries to buy our products. We live in a global world. All of these people who wish we could just close our doors to the rest of the world are insane.

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