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Date Posted: 11:19:50 03/14/06 Tue
Author: chrys
Subject: Re: www.heartless-bitches.com
In reply to: lump 's message, "www.heartless-bitches.com" on 10:46:03 03/14/06 Tue

right on.

very insightful, both of those. i could totally identify with the second one. i haven't actually read too many women's magazines, but i remember being a teenager and reading like seventeen and YM and teen or whatever. i always had some feeling like, i just didn't actually know how to be a girl. it was an awful feeling, but i'd open the magazines and just couldn't find anything to identify with. the music thing especially set me apart. there'd be quizzes in the back about what kind of music girl you are, and i would never like any of them. even the ones around 94, that might mention green day or nirvana, were like, i don't know, so artificial. there was a part of me that wanted to be that kind of girl, or felt like i should, and surely my mom would have loved it, but it was foreign. i think it is to a LOT of people, but we're all told this is what we're supposed to like, supposed to look like, care about, wear, listen to, and so on, and so all those people who don't fit into that or don't relate feel like some sort of outsider. really i think there are more of us than we think, but i don't know, maybe i just don't hang out with people who are into that stuff.

i used to always think that one day i'd like to start a totally different sort of mag for women or teenage girls, w/a totally different focus, that featured interesting stories about people of all body types, all races, orientations, religions, some with tattoos and piercings or dyed hair or whatever, and would be more about real life, issues, and so on. haven't thought of it in ages though.


that first story was interesting too. that guy totally has a point. i think there is a lot of societal pressure to get married, like you're not good enough if you aren't by a certain age. i know girls younger than me who obsess on it,or whose parents do. but i think it's a well-made point that you want to find someone who you really share a bond with and have things in common with, not just someone who will look good posing in front of a white picket fence.

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[> Re: www.heartless-bitches.com -- taurus, 11:36:44 03/14/06 Tue [1]

wallflower or subservient doormat comes to mind. You know the heartless bitches are the ones who have realized we are not the ones who need a man for an identity. We're more realistic about it, and we're not going to go out of our way to please someone else, when they can please themselves. It's about equality and self-respect, so if being heartless maintains our identity, that's the way to be.

I would rather be outspoken and independent than a co-dependent dipshit. Anyway, the guys I've always dated and married, always appreciated that and were likeminded.

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