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Subject: FacTS...Fair or Unfair? YOU be the Judge


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Kathy Lee
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Date Posted: 09/ 5/16 10:52:39pm

Let's take a look at some FACTS...

The contestants on stage were obviously cleared and approved to compete! So this competition has rules and they are to follow these rules & guidelines, however, shouldn't there be the same expectations for everyone else involved? (Directors, Staff, Judge's, Sponsors, etc.)

Any ONE judge that has ANY type of affiliation with ANY contestant should NOT be allowed to remain on a judging panel. Whether the Directors are aware of this or not, a Judge should definitely fess up to the conflict prior to the event.

Prior to the Competition starting, all the judges are introduced with a brief bio---it's not a secret, right? Of course not! Providing "transparency" is most important! (Until the truth leaks out)

With only 5 scoring judges, any ONE judge can definitely manipulate the outcome. (Ever been in the Judge's seat?)

Interviews? This portion of the competition is NOT in the public eye...so let's say every contestant had a "great" interview, a judge can definitely play "favorites" to yet again manipulate the outcome. This is one area where a judge can make sure their top girl gets into at least theTop 15/16 to "get another shot at the big win"! (Because the competition starts over after the Top 15/16 girls that are chosen, right?)

Been in the audience? Here are some things you DON'T see on the "LIVE SHOW"...

Judges walking into the hotel, venue and onto the judges' panel greeting friends, sponsors, participants' make up artists, etc---clearly if you don't know the background, perception is reality...this doesn't look good for anyone. (Unless you announce this on the mic to everyone in sight)

All eyes on the Judges and Contestants...everyone in the room is watching your every move! Literally! So when you sit rather close to the Judge's panel and hear/see judges discussing a "tie" or "differences"...anyone who is smart and competitive will catch that! When a judge seems "upset" with the outcome and talking to another judge saying---"that wasn't my pick"... (Things that make you go hmmmm)

And the CARDS! who writes the results out?! Ever wonder if the judges' "pick their girl and the tabulator writes in another girl" (who knows- anything can happen, right)

TIE?! VERY Possible in ANY competition---BUT how is this tie broken?! "Pick your favorite"! This comes back- FULL CIRCLE....back to the Judge or Judges with the conflict! (Not just one...do your own research)

Thoughts?! Fair or Unfair?

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[> Subject: The judges are given a card with 5 names and they are to rank them. If 2 judges have A and two have B, then they go to the placement of the one judge who did not have A or B. If A is ranked higher - winner. And vice versa.


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Nancy was the clear winner. To anyone in the audience OR watching it on the web.
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Date Posted: 09/ 6/16 5:55:24am


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[> [> Subject: So it's Clear?


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.;.
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Date Posted: 09/ 6/16 9:07:55pm

So basically what we are looking at here is ONE judge breaking a TIE?! Correct, that could have been her direct sponsor swaying the decision. And yes- ONE judge can make THE difference...this is unfair and there is no way around it.

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[> Subject: UNFAIR. 3 of 5 judges has conflict of interest one Kemah sponsor 2 Nicole O'Brien close friends.


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Karlie send of party was paid in full for The city of Kemah the sponsors were invited misstexas 2017 was unfair and RIGGED
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Date Posted: 09/ 6/16 6:14:05am


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[> [> Subject: One of a sponsor of many local pageants. Not just Kemah.( FOR over 20 YEARS.) MANY judges are sponsors. Also if NOB had anything to say about her " friends" being judges, Logan would have won


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Just stop...
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Date Posted: 09/ 6/16 6:27:04am


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[> Subject: I was seating just behind the judges one of them was VERY UPSET and confused with results


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this voting process was designed to cheat
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Date Posted: 09/ 6/16 6:35:38am


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[> [> Subject: One judge- LOL. I have been a judge before and it’s a collaborative result. If you have never sat at that table before, you don’t know how it works. Just because your girl didn’t win. You are trying to make a conspiracy theory stick..


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Former
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Date Posted: 09/ 6/16 6:42:15am


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[> [> [> Subject: Explain details, collaborative?


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When judges are surprised it's weird
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Date Posted: 09/ 6/16 9:03:48am

Details from the birds eye view of being in the judging chair.

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[> [> [> Subject: It's not collaborative. You are asked NOT to discuss any of the contestants with other judges. They make that very clear.


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Former judge
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Date Posted: 09/ 6/16 10:31:56am


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[> [> [> [> Subject: Meant it takes more than one judge to pick a winner. I know that they do not know how eachother votes.


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Former
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Date Posted: 09/ 6/16 12:04:13pm


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[> Subject: If you have in the top 16 a girl that dosen't understand a single word in engliish means this unfair pageant was rigged


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(North Laredo) ask chaperons and contestants
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Date Posted: 09/ 6/16 6:51:44am


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[> [> Subject: I dont get her placement either. But does it say in the USA contract you must speak english? IDK.. Clearly she spoke enough to do well in interview. She was off my radar completely. DFW was a head scrather too.


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Not sure
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Date Posted: 09/ 6/16 7:21:49am


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[> Subject: Nancy was crowned not once twice for s sponsor/judge she wrote 5 weeks ago on her instagram @n4ncygonzale It's always great to stop and say hi to one of Miss Kemah Pageant amazing sponsor Dr. Moliver who was also one of the judges that selected me to represent Kemah at the Miss Texas Pageant! Once again thank you @docmoliver for making my dreams come true and embarking on my journey to Miss Texasz


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riged
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Date Posted: 09/ 6/16 9:34:53am


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[> [> Subject: So what? She was doing an pic with a sponsor ? That guy wasn't a judge at miss Texas !


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Date Posted: 09/ 6/16 11:40:21am


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[> Subject: Since we didn't get a program book ( whole other subject) I cant chek out all the judges. lol


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Smerk
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Date Posted: 09/ 6/16 12:05:46pm


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[> Subject: question about North Laredo::::


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C L I C K I N.
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Date Posted: 09/ 6/16 1:11:36pm

Did she really not speak English? (Any contestants and chaperones that could answer this?

I still can't believe it I'm pretty sure she can speak it(never met her but why would she be in a pageant over here if she couldn't speak it) I saw a video of her when she was Miss Tamaulipas Mexico getting interviewed and it was pretty good(in Spanish though and she looked beautiful). maybe she has broken English and was shy about speaking it in front of the contestants. I mean we know how mean some girls can be. Nobody was in the interview with her. Maybe she opened up and spoke English. Maybe she has a great personally. Idk. Who knows. Anyone talked to her at the pageant?

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[> Subject: I was a contestant that stood nearby North Laredo. She was very friendly and had no trouble speaking or understanding english. She has an accent similar to Sofia Vergara. Anyone stating that she doesn't speak english is just trying to start drama and can't accept that their girl didn't make top 15.


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Texas girl
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Date Posted: 09/ 6/16 1:32:03pm


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[> [> Subject: Thank you for the insight


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North Laredo was very beautiful.
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Date Posted: 09/ 6/16 1:48:23pm

People here hype only the contestants they "know". It's all HYPE to build up .......their contestant

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