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• Wow! Lots of questions! I'll just take it all inside to save space. :-) -- Lil, 09:34:13 06/30/09 Tue
  • There are thirteen years between Jamie and Pamela- he's 32 at the beginning of EU and she is 19. :) (NT) -- celtgirl, 10:50:59 06/30/09 Tue
    • thank you...I suck at math! :-) (NT) -- Lil, 13:01:16 06/30/09 Tue

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• Actually, I don't subscribe to that philosophy that we are only given as much trouble as we can handle. If that were true, >>> -- E, 14:31:25 06/30/09 Tue
  • I don't subscribe to it either, Elaine, FWIW. I do think the strong often judge those whose strength comes in different forms on how they react to/in a crisis. I definitely felt Yevgena judged Colleen's response wanting -- but that could be because she saw how much pain Jamie is in with nobody to truly comfort him. (NT) -- Carla, 15:08:19 06/30/09 Tue
    • When you're so solidly loyal to someone, as Yevgena is to Jamie, I'm sure it's awfully hard to be entirely objective. I believe you're right about the 'strong' judging others harshly. It's wrong, though. We are not all born with the same temperament, or drive or set of values; it's almost impossible to know precisely what someone else is feeling . All we have is our own perspective, and most of the time that's pretty limiting. (NT) -- E, 15:21:32 06/30/09 Tue
      • For all intents and purposes, Yevgena has served as a mother figure for Jamie- hence her viewpoint tends to be rather biased in his favour. (NT) -- celtgirl, 15:37:14 06/30/09 Tue
      • One thing I learned a long time ago that has stuck with me is that you cannot measure someone else's pain. (NT) -- Tracy, 16:01:28 06/30/09 Tue
        • So very true. (NT) -- E, 19:03:10 06/30/09 Tue

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• Say, Carla, I seem to recall some time back when several of us were censored by Voy for using the word, 'Lolita.' Wonder how come it went through without a hitch this time? (NT) -- E, who has been labeled a Spammer, 19:04:22 06/30/09 Tue
  • I was wondering that myself. I know I did have an email exchange with the Voy folks, perhaps they dropped it from their list of banned words. The odd thing was, you could use it "inside" but not "up front." Wierd. (NT) -- PeggyB, 11:37:26 07/03/09 Fri

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• I'm still not sure that "what doesn't kill you makes you stronger" is correct. I think that Colleen coped for as long as she could in that environment and then needed a change in order to save herself maybe. What may be perceived as running away from something could be running to something. Perhaps some situations like Colleen and Jamie's just cannot be solved and therefore it's best to separate and retreat in order to save oneself instead of losing both people. (NT) -- Tracy, 19:16:54 06/30/09 Tue

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• I thought that Jamie had no idea who Pamela was but I thought that her name would ring a bell at least. I'm still not quite sure but if he does recognize Pamela then maybe he isn't owning up to that because he is trying to figure out what she is all about now, why she has reappeared and what her intentions are. I think Jamie is the type of man who doesnt forget little details let alone an actual woman (girl then). (NT) -- Tracy, 19:23:03 06/30/09 Tue

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• I think the abandonment is relevant to Casey and Pamela's relationship as it's something they can share a true understanding of. When necessary, they could talk to each other or help each other with little explanation of feelings. (NT) -- Tracy, 19:27:38 06/30/09 Tue