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• 1. Sit quietly and listen, frill? Me? Hell no, I'm the one that jumps up and starts clapping and dancing while all the other people begin to moan "oh no, we've got one of those in our section", or someone whines "can you sit down." I always feel like saying "you came to a concert to sit, what the heck is wrong with you, it's TIM!" (NT) -- Tracy, 09:00:34 10/24/07 Wed
  • LOL, you just made me remember one of the first concerts I took Jess too - Collective Soul & The Cranberries. She's sitting in her chair and I'm up dancing around - she kept saying 'Mom sit down' ummmm No *g* Told Glenn I had to teach his 15/16 yr old daughter how to act at concerts...how sad is that? *BG* (NT) -- Marilyn, 11:44:09 10/24/07 Wed

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• 75.1) I'm pretty sure you all know that music is the main focus in my family, so won't bore you with detail. Yes, I can sit still when I must, and I know not to applaud between (orchestral) movements - a profoundly stupid etiquette, btw. If it's beautiful, applaud and to hell with decorum, but I digress. Sure, I know all the rules, but sometimes you just can't sit still, it's impossible. And after a few drinks, it's even worse. Except that by then one doesn't move with much grace or rhythm! You can do a lot of swaying even while seated. ;-) (75.2) She came to the pub because she was only half alive without him. Sure she was still angry, but if she didn't need him and want him, she wouldn't have gone at all. She may have gone there with the thought that she needed to see him, to make sure he was okay. I doubt she consciously chose to be drawn in by his spell, but something tells me she knew it would happen, she wanted it to happen. (NT) -- Elaine, 10:39:27 10/24/07 Wed
  • Oh, you know Elaine, I was only thinking of concerts lol! I suppose I could sit still if it was a play or opera - mind you I've never been to an opera. I suppose me standing up during an opera or an orchestra going woooo hoooo with my right arm raised and pumping it would be very bad decorum ;) (NT) -- Tracy, 11:22:35 10/24/07 Wed

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• (75.3) They re-committed themselves to each other, that was a huge step in the right direction. Now the barrier to further dialogue has been removed. (75.4) It had to be. If Hagerty couldn't kill him, then the city of Boston would have eventually. She wouldn't want Casey to be any different, even if she can barely stand the fear and violence. This is who he is, the man she fell in love with. To change him would be the same as killing him. And part of herself would die as well. (NT) -- Elaine, 10:42:54 10/24/07 Wed

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• 5. I don't think Casey would have done it...no that he wouldn't want to, but he also didn't want to tie her to his violent life; however, I am sure in time, he would have realized that she wasn't going to leave him whether they married or not, and so he would more than likely have proposed, eventually. (NT) -- susiej, 10:49:57 10/24/07 Wed

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• 2. Ah, well, I suppose its one of the cases where you just can't stay away. Who could stay away from that man when he's singing ?!?! Still, when she saw him , she knew she was a goner, though I suspect she wanted that or she wouldn't have come. (NT) -- susiej, 10:51:40 10/24/07 Wed

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• 3. Hmm, is this when the baby is conceived? (NT) -- susiej, 10:52:26 10/24/07 Wed
  • Very astute of you, Susie, this is indeed when the baby is conceived. :) (NT) -- celtgirl, 12:58:10 10/24/07 Wed

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• 1. It depends on the music. If it's a good, rockin' Irish tune there's no way I can sit still. My feet and hands need to be moving at the very least. Like Tracy, I've been to concerts where people are sitting down and I'm just itching to get up and DANCE! (NT) -- Carla, 11:45:01 10/24/07 Wed

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• 2. I don't know if Pamela even knew why she went that night. To see that he was alright? Maybe to see that he was miserable without her? Maybe she just couldn't stand not being in his presence any longer. As for why she tried to flee, maybe she was afraid to hear what he had to say or was simply not sure what to do once she was found out. (NT) -- Carla, 11:47:14 10/24/07 Wed

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• 3. It gets you past that particular hurdle, lets you know that there's still something there and maybe gives you an intimate place from which to start talking. It's often easier to talk in the dark, even just holding hands than sitting across from the table in the cold light of day. It's the first step on a long journey. (NT) -- Carla, 11:48:50 10/24/07 Wed

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• 4. I don't think she would want to bend his will entirely, any more than he would want to bend her's entirely. Because then neither of them would be the same person. I find it very interesting that Pamela takes a lot of heat for going off and doing risky things, but Casey and Jamie much less so. They may know the lay of the land better than she does, but they still put themselves in harm's way all too often and knowing the place is no guarantee of safety in Northern Ireland at this particular time. (NT) -- Carla, 11:51:01 10/24/07 Wed
  • In my mind, those two guys are better prepared for what they might meet. They know how to fight back, use weapons, work undercover, etc. Pamela goes into situations with nothing but her determination. That's why I always worry more about her I guess. (NT) -- Elaine, 14:25:31 10/24/07 Wed
    • I agree. And they have connections, they know these people and what they are dealing with. And they aren't carrying a child!!!! (NT) -- susiej, 07:17:03 10/25/07 Thu

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• 5. I don't know that it would. I suspect the idea was in Casey's mind, but he didn't quite believe Pamela was really his when she proposed. He doesn't strike me as the type who needs to be "the man" or to feel less of a man because he's with a strong woman. (NT) -- Carla, 11:52:22 10/24/07 Wed

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• 2. I think most concerts are meant to be parties- I couldn't believe that people were sitting at a GBS concert, are they not human? How do you do that when Alan says you need to get up and dance? :) 3. These two have an incredibly strong physical connection, Casey's exploiting that a wee bit here. Pamela came knowing what was likely to happen, but there are still unresolved feelings and anger too, and sometimes, even if the man is your husband and you're used to him and his ways, the feelings can overwhelm you and scare you a bit. That's what's going on with her here- and she'd like to hold onto her anger in some respects, but knows if Casey touches her it's all over. (NT) -- celtgirl, 13:13:43 10/24/07 Wed

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• Sorry I messed up my numbering above. That should be one and two above not two and three. 3. It's a level they both admit they can communicate on when words aren't working for them. Earlier in the book it says that it's their truth, their language, for words are not their kingdom. Not that Casey doesn't melt her with words occasionally too. It repairs things enough for him to go home and them to resume daily life together. And as Susie pointed out, it starts other things too. :) 4. No, not really, but she's still afraid for the big, dark stubborn man she married anyway. 5. Casey is a bit of a traditionalist and he's got a superstitious streak in him. At some point later he tells her (though it didn't make it into the 'Mermaid') that he wouldn't have asked her to live with him, if he didn't intend to marry her. It's not in his nature. They are both Catholic and though they really bend the rules there, at heart there are some things about which they are very tradtional. (NT) -- celtgirl, 13:20:36 10/24/07 Wed
  • I have a question, Cindy, which maybe you can answer. You describe Casey as having Hibernian charm, I suppose to mean Irish charm, but I'm a bit confused. In Jack Whyte's books the Hibernians are Scots, no mention of being Irish, even though the people immigrated from what is now Ireland to Caledonia, aka Scotland. Are Scotland's original inhabitants, excluding Picts, from Irish descent? Or is this just Jack (NT) -- Denise, 14:25:28 10/24/07 Wed
    • Sorry, didn't get a chance to finish....Or is this just Jack Whyte's version of events? (NT) -- Denise, 14:29:14 10/24/07 Wed
    • In Roman times when they referred to Hibernia they meant Ireland. In the Oxford English Dictionary it says 'Hibernian- of or referring to Ireland. A native or inhabitant of Ireland. So to be honest I'm not sure what Jack means. There are theories that say the orignal Scots were people who came from Ireland. (NT) -- celtgirl, 14:32:36 10/24/07 Wed
      • Perhaps I should ask Jack? He didn't attend our Thursday gathering due to recent deaths of two friends but I spoke to him on a few other occasions. Time was limited though...maybe I'll get up the nerve to email... (NT) -- Denise, 15:29:46 10/24/07 Wed
        • Jack is really easy to chat with, and he and I have talked about Ireland a few times, but we don't see eye to eye and have agreed to disagree on that topic. :) (NT) -- celtgirl, 15:38:14 10/24/07 Wed
      • The Ancient Order of Hibernians march in our local St. Patrick's Day parades, and there was The Hibernian restaurant in Nenagh, remember cg? That's all I know. The AOH-StL website speaks only of Irish connections, no mention of Scots that I could find. (NT) -- Elaine, 15:37:30 10/24/07 Wed

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• 75.5) I don't think it would have made much difference, if any. Casey and Pamela are just not going to do things by the book. I don't think either of them have that need. (NT) -- Elaine, 14:29:12 10/24/07 Wed

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• Awww- I have to share this. I just got a letter from a reader saying reading my work was like listening to music, because the words flow so beautifully together. Isn't that nice? (NT) -- celtgirl, 16:07:40 10/24/07 Wed
  • Beautiful. And so appropriate for this chapter, too! (NT) -- Elaine, 17:02:53 10/24/07 Wed
  • How gratifying that must be!! Of course, I would have to agree, your way with words is extraordinary. Sometimes, actually often, the subject matter is difficult to take - the fighting, the dying - but the glory of the words makes it all so worthwhile. Having to read about a couple of sexy boyos isn't all that bad either! (NT) -- Denise, 17:05:04 10/24/07 Wed

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• ALBANNACH...... went and saw them last night!!!! Their final gig in the US,,,,,, they are going home. I will miss them. I never sit still. I dance, even if no one else is dancing when music is being played. I am not good at seat dancing,,,,, NO WAY. (NT) -- bug, 07:48:47 10/25/07 Thu
  • You probably won't see this now - it'll scroll too fast - but I was waiting for you to jump in with an Albannach story. Glad you got to see them last night..in N.C.? I was talking w/Jackie last weekend and she said they had a Cooperate/Private gig in Florida before heading home. I'll miss them too...till next year :-) (NT) -- Marilyn, 20:16:14 10/25/07 Thu