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Subject: From (May offend any religion or faith)


Author:
darkerside of light
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Date Posted: 03:41:04 02/04/08 Mon

From

From mud shit and bullets
We so easily go
To peace and love
From the devil you know
To god above
Don’t you think I’ve had enough?

God told his son
Here son here’s a few nails
That bit of wood they call a cross
Jesus started to think
May be my father been reading too many fairy tails
Jesus looked up but was at a loss
Father
You expect them to believe this in years to come
Look around you
No one gives a toss
Don’t you think I don’t I know son
God gave Jesus those nails
Get up that damn hill son
For it is done

From mud shit and bullets
If the hat fits
To seventh heaven
No middle ground
So you expect people not only to believe in you and me
To also talk about forgiveness on their death bed
Father I love you as a son
You are out of your head
Do me a favour when I’m dead
Keep away from the communion wine
Go easy on the bread

Look at them
Look at them all
They are doing fine
We can only screw things up even more
Start some holy war
Son
Listen to your father’s voice
I love you like a father should
For you and me there’s no choice
As for them well they do
So my sweet son I feel your fear
One day we can share this story over a beer
Now son
Take those bloody nails
Get up that god damn hill
For it is
Done
Don’t forget they may not do
Son
As a father I will always love you

DSL

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[> Subject: Re: From (May offend any religion or faith)


Author:
Wilopent
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Date Posted: 09:43:13 02/04/08 Mon

There are times in our lives when nothing makes any sense,
but then a day comes when EVERYTHING makes sense.

It's the fruit of the tree that bears witness to our lives.

I find it good to put our uneasy thoughts into poetic form, as the reader can dive in at his own risk and take from it something deeper. thank you for sharing, DSL.

Hugs,
Wilopent

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Author:
darkerside of light
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Date Posted: 10:08:21 02/04/08 Mon

Dear Wilopent

First I must congrats you on being bravest of the brave to dive in and leave your thoughts and in deed they thankfully received for the record this took two days to write where normaly I take about 10 mins max.

Thanking you

DSL

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[> Subject: Re: From (May offend any religion or faith)


Author:
Wilopent
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Date Posted: 10:33:09 02/04/08 Mon

I know, DSL. I have poems like this and everytime before I post them anywhere, I get so torn not wanting readers to judge me. And I do think there's always a fine line we teeter on between poetry and ranting and staying on the poetic side is certainly a challenge.
Your write was poetry and after all, just one slice of your GREAT BIG APPLE!
Hugs again,
Wilopent

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[> Subject: Re: From (May offend any religion or faith)


Author:
Christine
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Date Posted: 12:26:24 02/04/08 Mon

Wow! I didn't see this before...of course, I was playing elsewhere..hehehe...

HOWEVER....

What is there to offend here? Isn't it something that some of us have thought at one time or another as our sons bleed and die?

Poetry is sometimes like a scream, it's gotta be the loudest sometimes to be heard....kudos to you for screaming. I hear ya!

~Hugs~

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[> Subject: Re: From (May offend any religion or faith)


Author:
andy
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Date Posted: 15:48:56 02/04/08 Mon



Mark,

I can see why you left the warning label
but you know poetry is life. It is meant
for pushing the edge if you want to.

That's really what i love best about your
voice. It's so fearless and free.

It doesn't matter whether I agree with you
on any given subject. What matters is that
you make me visit it and think about it
differently for a bit.

Don't ever stop pushing the pen past the
point of safe.

I applaud you!

thanks,
andy

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[> Subject: Re: From (May offend any religion or faith)


Author:
Paul
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Date Posted: 17:41:30 02/04/08 Mon

Mark,

As I told you on the phone, this is a terrific write. I don't buy into religion of any form as you know, and this so speaks to me of what I believe, I shall say no more lest I cause some offence! LOL.

Excellent my fearless friend!

Peace and hope,

Paul

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[> Subject: Re: From (May offend any religion or faith)


Author:
Sasha
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Date Posted: 20:16:36 02/04/08 Mon


Quote:
____________________________

From mud shit and bullets
We so easily go
To peace and love
From the devil you know
To god above
Don’t you think I’ve had enough?
____________________________

~ this is a strong opening, capturing well the contrasts of life

the bit that impresses me is that you spent a good deal of time on this piece
making sure your words were spilled with the passion, and THAT shows growth
and that is really cool, my friend...well done, Mark...

*hugs*

Sash xx

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[> Subject: Re: From (May offend any religion or faith)


Author:
darkerside of light
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Date Posted: 02:57:32 02/05/08 Tue

Dear Wilopent,Sash, Andy,Paul and Christine

I thank you all

As a rule I like to leave my words for others to decide what they mean

Today I will offer up my own synopsis and thoughts

I'd try to put my self in Jesuses shoes I stand to be corrected he was in his thirties at the time so be it's god's son he was a fully grown man very capable to looking after him self when one day he fnds out he will be betrayed and crucified. No body in their right mind could handle that and you would come with every reason to save your own skin.

"Look at them
Look at them all
They are doing fine
We can only screw things up"

Then we move on to that father son relationship that exists all over the world The father who thinks he know's best and the son who knows better!and questions his fathers commands and action and authority and takes a swipe at his father in the process.

"May be my fathers been reading too many fairy tales"

"You expect them to believe this in years to come
Look around you
No one gives a toss"


"You expect people not only to believe in you and me
To also talk about forgiveness on their death bed"

By now Jesus or the son has become angry and some what desperate to I can't believe I'm having this conversation

Now also thinking that Jesus is yet to go back and tell his followers and do this my body and this my blood speach


Jesus or son will make sure he hurts or throws some kind of insult in the face of the God/Father

"You are out of your head
Do me a favour when I'm dead
Keep away from the communion wine
Go easy on the bread"

This is an insult slap in the face a bit like saying dad you are now the last person I ever want to see and we are finished.

I could go on for ever
So I'll try to rap up it up with a few reli points

I'm now in gods shoes
Does he want to kill his own son....NO
And he knows he has no choice if wishes to give man any hope.

"Listen to your fathers voice
I love you like a father should
For you and me there 's no choice"

But God has given us the option to believe or not

"As for them they do"

And finally god can take no more like any father who is trying to get his son to do something they would rather not
He snaps.

"Take those bloody nails
Get up that god damn hill
For it is
Done"

Jesus then turns and walks away(as many a son has from his father.

Now we think about christianity now those against and those for

God then says to his son like a father would say to his son some thing like your the best better than the rest (How many times my own father said that to me)

"Don't forget son they may not do
Son
As a father I will always love you"

And now here's the punch line

God the father
God the son
God the holy spirit
God the three in one

God had to come down on this earth in human form

That man was called Jesus

So the whole time god was talking and fighting himself

DSL


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[> Subject: Re: From (May offend any religion or faith)


Author:
Max Hardy
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Date Posted: 04:48:33 02/05/08 Tue

Hello DSL

My friend, the depths of your pondering speak loudly, with a sons voice, with a fathers voice, with the voice being both with for me, not an offensive word uttered. An aptly put, wonderfully crafted voice that paints questions and makes minds think, and for me that's one of the things I love about poetry, and your words just brim with what I love....

Never ever stop doing what you do.

Max

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