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Date Posted: 10:13:13 10/15/22 Sat
Author: David Meier to Mr Tristan and MrKnut
Subject: Re: Some questions
In reply to: Tristan 's message, "Re: Some questions" on 23:58:46 10/14/22 Fri

>





Hello Tristan,

thanks for so many interesting details of you and your wife. My ped doc recommanded my single mom a big exam for me when i was seven years old and like you snd your kids i was brought by an ambulance car.

My i ask in which country you grew up? I grew up in Germany. So great that your kids get exams too. I follow your letters to Knut so i get the information and you don‘t have to write the details twice.

Tristan, i was cut at four so they didn’t had to do it during the exam but the other boys were cut then. The other topic in my era of exam was the appendix. Some not all and me neither got the appendix out. Do you have any information about circumcision and appendix? In Germany kids stood longer in hospital. About one week. Always. It is a German thing. So i did too. And i got my catheter longer. Several days. How old are your kids now and when will they get their next exam?

Once again thanks for writing me. After more than two years of Covid with a lot problems of surviving i am back and will write more ioften again.


Greetings,
David Meier





>Hello David,
>
>thank you for supporting our decision. My wife and I
>were both examined for the first time by decision of
>the authorities, not voluntarily. After being forcibly
>removed from the family environment, we made it to a
>diagnostic institute. There was very strict military
>discipline and we had to do everything on orders. On
>the contrary, we were met with a very accommodating
>approach when everything was kindly explained to us
>and instead of shouting orders, we were asked for
>everything very nicely. After the procedure, we felt
>much better after the initial symptoms subsided and
>perceived an improvement in our health. The procedure
>did not give rise to any subsequent difficulties, so
>we agreed to further examination without any problems.
>However, we also acted on the advice of our parents.
>Now that we have our children, of course we consider
>the balance between the risks of such interventions
>and their benefits. We know that, for example,
>anaesthesia does not have a beneficial effect on a
>child's brain, and interventions can also bring many
>problems. From infecting internal organs to damaging
>them when deploying tools. But thanks to the very
>accommodating attitude of the hospital staff and the
>fact that the procedures did not bring any consequent
>complications even for the children in our
>neighborhood, we also agreed to examine our children.
>But we always recommend very careful consideration of
>whether the real benefits of these interventions
>outweigh the potential risks.
>
>Tristan
>
>
>
>>>>- Were the ordeal of your wife and kids voluntary or
>>>>forced or mandatory?
>>>>
>>>My wife was on her first exam just like I was when I
>>>was at the diagnostic institute. She had already
>>>volunteered for the second and third Tests. The
>>>children were put to the test by our choice
>>>voluntarily.
>>>
>>>>- In what kind of institution did it happen?
>>>>
>>>The wife began her first medical school testing and
>>>was then transferred to a specialized facility at the
>>>Hospital for Children and Adolescents. At the same
>>>facility, we took the tests and everyone else.
>>>
>>>>- Did you bring your children there or did they
>fetch
>>>>them in some kind of ambulance.
>>>>
>>>A car from the hospital would always come for the
>test
>>>subjects and that would take them home.
>>>
>>>>- What age and gender are those of your children.
>How
>>>>old were they when they had the exam.
>>>>
>>>The tests have already taken our two children twins
>>>boy and girl at the age of 7. The youngest boy is 6
>>>years old and is yet to be tested. After two tests,
>>>they already have my older brother's children. They
>>>took the tests at 6.5 years old and 12 years old.
>>>
>>>>- Were there any difference between what happened to
>>>>your children from what got done with you? Something
>>>>missing, some new things added.
>>>>
>>>Compared to us, hospital stays have been reduced for
>>>children. They returned home the next morning after a
>>>check-up. None of them had incontinence problems
>after
>>>the procedure. They weren't as tired as we were after
>>>the procedure. For the second day after returning
>>>home, they were able to go to school without any
>>>problems.
>>>
>>>>- How long were your kids under general anesthesia?
>>>>
>>>The general anesthesia was less than two hours.
>>>
>>>>- Did your kids have to stay in an intensive care
>>unit
>>>>after the ordeal. What tubes, electrodes and other
>>>>arrangements were monted on them.
>>>>
>>>They were in the regular room when they woke up. They
>>>had many electrodes and catheters in their urethra
>and
>>>rectum, and lay with their legs bent. Their
>catheters
>>>were removed after a check-up that night.
>>>
>>>>- Was there any difference between what happened to
>>>>your girls and boys ?
>>>>
>>>The overall examination took nearly an hour longer
>for
>>>the boys than for the girls.
>>>
>>>>- Did they do any adjutments in your kids and what
>do
>>>>you think about the effects?
>>>>
>>>In all children, they had a better clearance of the
>>>intestines and ureters. It seems to me they have
>>>more energy.
>>>
>>>>- Are you as parents involved in any way with the
>>>>preparation and aftercare after the exams.
>>>>
>>>
>>>A month after the procedure, we took temperatures in
>>>their genitals and rectum in the morning and
>evening.
>>>In the evening, they received a suppository in the
>>>rectum and a gel in the genital organs.
>>>
>>>>- Have you got any plan for further examinations and
>>>>adjustments in your kids, and at what ages?
>>>>
>>>We were advised to repeat the examination after three
>>>to five years according to the current state of
>>health.
>>>
>>>If there's anything else you'd like to add, write.
>>>
>>>Tristan
>>
>>
>>
>>Hiello Tristan, hi Knut,
>>
>>so great to read that after such a long somebody
>>answered my question. And i am very happy to read that
>>you support young kids exams.
>>I got only one test because my single mom and me moved
>>to another town. Please go on and send your kids to
>>hospital again someday. I ‚ve got a friend with a 9
>>year old boy. He got two exams till now. And two of
>>his class mattes as well. And the reason to convince
>>their single moms were the cases of having protruding
>>ears. Up to the age of nine the health insurance pays
>>for pinning them. So they got it made when they were
>>seven and eight years old. So they get their ears
>>pinned and a lot more. A real big exam. All of them
>>got circumcised too. One got hernia repair.
>>
>>"Our“ boy got two surgeons yet. During his second
>>stay the staff looked after his tonsils and polyps.
>>
>>And like you i guess he got more energy now and
>>learns easier.
>>
>>Sometimes i wish my mom didn‘t move so i had had more
>>exams as a kid
>>
>>So Tristan maybe it would be good to send your kids to
>>hospital more often.
>>
>>Greetings,
>>David Meier

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