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Date Posted: 09:20:54 11/22/22 Tue
Author: Garr Wy
Subject: Re: Boy, 14yp, USA, dental procedures with lower body procedure too
In reply to: Knut Holt 's message, "Re: Boy, 14yp, USA, dental procedures with lower body procedure too" on 01:24:35 11/22/22 Tue

Look, I'm not saying none of this happened. I am saying there appear to be discrepancies between this kid's experience and my own and other people's experiences over years with oral surgeons. I have never seen an oral surgeons office and examining rooms that appeared to be equipped for anything other than oral surgery, at least in the US. I have never seen, been asked, or known of anyone required to submit a urine specimen to an oral surgeon. This took place at a "health center," a term not in use in the US, and whose meaning is at best ambiguous. In addition it depends on the experiences of a 14 year old who was recovering from anesthesia, which is a priori suspect. And 14 is generally not an age when wisdom teeth are extracted.

Nevertheless, I'm not saying it didn't happen, just that I would view reports such as this with some skepticism, and weigh them carefully.







>Well, this was at a health center, so there were
>surely other specialists, doctors and dentists,
>present at the place. I guess that an oral surgery is
>equipped with arrangements so that it is practical to
>do things at any place of the body, and that other
>specialists only needed to bring with them equipment
>on a trolly. General anesthesia with intubation is
>also used during oral surgery in special cases, which
>means that it must be easy to insert a catheter and
>connect surveillance electrodes.
>
>The things told about surely took a long time, so they
>surely had some arrangement to collect urine. But the
>question is if some other things were done.
>
>Parents or authorities may have arranged with other
>specialists at the center to perform other
>examinations too.
>
>Myself I had braces and 4 teeth removed at the age of
>12, one at an oral surgeon, but only with local
>anesthesia. Later on I judged the whole procedure to
>be unnecessary and more harmfyl than good, even though
>that it was sucessful according to plan. That made me
>complaint about the orthodontist to the health
>authorities and also appeared unexpectedly at his
>office to tell him what I thought about him.
>
>But I had a thorough pelvic exam under some degree of
>anesthesia soon afterwords. I had the impression that
>any kid having some type of deviation from the normal
>standard in one place of the body also got called in
>for a pelvic exam and assessment of pubertal status.
>
>Therefor I find it likely that something like this was
>done,

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