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Date Posted: 20:31:02 09/09/22 Fri
Author: Garr Wy
Subject: Re: Another illustrative report
In reply to: 's message, "Re: Another illustrative report" on 10:02:19 09/09/22 Fri

I see your points more clearly now.

Someone once said, "When you get something free, it means YOU are the product." I think this is often true. Free services often come with hidden strings attached.

As for USA insurance, there is health care available for children whose parents do not have insurance, such as Medicaid and probably others. These however require enrollment, financial review of the parents, and require other information, and subject medical procedures to review and approval. The appeal of the free service would be no approval from the agency which provided medical coverage for children would be necessary, there would not be a great deal of paperwork and hence records available, not as much of a "paper trail," and it would probably be more immediate. Non-emergency and non-urgent surgery is usually booked for times 1-3 weeks or more from the initial consultation. If the free service could provide it sooner, it would appeal to the parents and the kid. Also, it would probably be performed by non-local medical personnel who would be gone shortly afterward, so there would be no one around to question, and no one to tell what they had seen or heard that seemed strange, or not quite right. Of course a written report would be sent to the kid's regular doctor but would contain only what the people who did the procedure deemed necessary.

I agree that based on the reports you have published here, there does seem to be a great concern with cystoscopic examination of boys. It's possible the boy's catheter was innocent, and exactly what it seemed, or that other procedures had been done.

In addition to your own speculations, here are a few of my own: I wonder if perhaps they are looking for something besides just tests and tissue sampling etc. Some possible candidates would be unintended consequences of previously given medications or vaccines. Both can have side effects that are sometimes serious. Could these manifest in the bladder and urethra somehow? Effects of common soft drinks, caffeine, food additives or dyes is perhaps another candidate for the same reasons. (See link).

https://www.livestrong.com/article/90494-foods-chemicals-irritate-bladder/

Some common food ingredients and things teen and pre-teen boys consume, such as soft drinks, can irritate the bladder. The soft drink industry, such as Coca-Cola, and others is itself a multi-billion dollar business, and research on the effects of such drinks on the bladder might be of great interest to them (AND they have a lot of money to pay for the research!) Though I would caution that this is pure speculation on my part!

Or perhaps it's something less sinister, for example trying to find a definitive answer to the question, could a cystoscopy find enough problems and issues in the bladder and urethra to make it a routine for children or early teens at some point? These kids often seem to be on the about the age that puberty begins in earnest. Is this significant?

And, one can't forget to consider that at least some of the procedures are exactly what they seem and are done for mundane reasons.

Anyway, forgive my rambling response. I hope you find a few of these many words useful or interesting.

GW







>I agree that teaching of staff normally is done in a
>normal hospitality setting.
>
>But as you suggest, the boys could have been used in a
>project of which the responsibles do not want
>scrutiny.
>
>I know a lot about the function of these pediatric
>vans touring the countrysides to offer all kind of
>pediatric services, except major surgeries or the
>like, free of charge.
>
>They also say they cooperate online with specialists
>at the hospitals or bring with them these specialuits
>on tours.
>
>These charities do not only operate in USA now, but
>also in many European countries and elsewhere in the
>world.
>
>But I have alway wondered? Who is paying, and what
>kind of compensation do these get for financing these
>rather expensive charities?
>
>A part of the answer may be that the kids are used in
>research projects or are used to try out new types of
>instruments under development, and they wont this to
>be done outside of scrutiny. Those paying will then be
>research organizations, surveillance organiations,
>including CIA, and medical companies.
>
>I do not have exact details about medical insurance in
>USA. But I guess that some parents cannot afford to
>pay for the insurance, or have only a cheap insurance
>that will pay only if the bill exceed a certain
>amount.
>
>Parent in this situation may accept the offer of these
>charities. Parents that live a long distance from the
>hospital might also accept to avoid the inconveniance
>of the hospitalization.
>
>It is symptomatic that these charities seem to
>actively push as many parents as possible to use their
>service for the kids, and also push local hospitals
>and schools to use them as health service for kids
>they are responsible for.

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