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Subject: No they don't.


Author:
Wade A. Tisthammer
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Date Posted: 03/13/04 4:28pm
In reply to: Damoclese 's message, "yes they do" on 03/13/04 2:55pm

>>>1. God is the greatest possible being.
>>>2. There can be no being greater than God.
>>>3. An imaginary being is less great than one that is
>>>both imagined and real.
>>>4. Being the greatest possible being necessitates
>that
>>>it at least be both imaginable, and real.
>>>5. Nothing is a state of not being.
>>>6. Nothing is both imaginable and real.
>>>7. God must be the greater nothing.
>>>8. Being the greater nothing means at least an
>>>imaginable and real state of not being.
>>>9. Therefore, being the greatest nothing, there is no
>>>God.
>>>Else: "Nothing" has greater existence than God.
>>
>>It sounds like a variation of the ontological
>>argument, but we have a problem. Lines 7 and 9 don't
>>seem to logically follow from any of the previous
>>premises (it would help if you listed which premises
>>you believed the conclusion derives from).
>
>Premise 2 begets premise seven.

Premise 2 doesn't imply that God is any sort of nothing, though it does imply that God is greater than nothing.

>Premise 9 is backed by premise 7, which is in turn
>backed by premise 2.

Premise 7 is an invalid deduction, so premise 9 is left without support.

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