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Beginning with the Recruiting Class of 1994 -- The Future, 11/14/15 11:20:41pm Sat
Every player who has played four years of Colgate football has won a Patriot League Championship.
Every class Biddle recruited won a Patriot League Championship.
22 straight recruiting classes getting rings.
Congrats to Coach Hunt and the all the people who make Colgate Football consistently great.
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Re: One of most exciting games I have seen in a long time -- TheGreeenCoat, 11/14/15 11:40:06pm Sat
>I have been on here reading everyone's opinions and
>responses for every game this season. If you would
>just read these post and never watch a game, you would
>think Colgate didn't have a good football team. And,
>didn't have a coaching staff! Look at them today! This
>team has definitely changed since game one, but we all
>know game one was not a fair assessment. Each and
>every game we got stronger and better. Today's game
>was by far the best I have seen this team play this
>season. Off, def, kicking, penalties, what a game.
>What can we honestly say, but Colgate won this game
>because they played the better game. These players
>deserve this win! Congratulations boys and coaches!
>Go gate!!
very pleased and they showed a lot of heart...but please, "Go Gate" let's not get carried away...the defense was pretty bad, albeit a great stand at the end of the game...our offense has a lot of talented skill players, but defensively we've been inconsistent at best, especially in the secondary...my objective hope is to be competitive in game #1 of playoffs...Melville looks better and better every game throwing the ball because, finally, the coaches are letting him use his weapons...congrats to Coach Hunt...hopefully many more to come...
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Re: One of most exciting games I have seen in a long time -- Gate'83, 11/15/15 6:39:58am Sun
If you can't get a little carried away after a win like yesterday, when can you? College sports are supposed to be fun, that was an awesome win! Go Gate, enjoy it! Coat, lighten up!
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Re: One of most exciting games I have seen in a long time -- the last indian (replay to Green Coat), 11/15/15 1:15:56pm Sun
Green Coat is wrong. Our defense is good. Lehigh has a
very good offense line and good skill players. They
are hard to stop. They have put up big point totals
even in losing efforts. We got stops when they were
crucial. Frustrating Lehigh at first and goal 4 times
when the game is on the line, is not the hallmark of a
poor defense. Same for the waning seconds on the
Fordham game.
We got plenty of sacks against Fordham. The difference is in the play of the O-lines.
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Re: FCS quality football teams - gate80? -- Maven, 11/15/15 10:48:56pm Sun
>Colgate is undefeated in the PL, and was playing for a
>league title and automatic bid to the playoffs,
>against our biggest rival over the last couple of
>decades. There will never be a bigger home game
>outside of a playoff game. I wish there was a way I
>could post a screenshot of the TV image of the Dunlap
>stands. You would think there was a field hockey game
>being played at Kerr!
>
>Of course there will always be home games at Kerr. I'm
>just saying we should be pleased with 3 or 4 and not
>insist on 5 or 6, if we could have a couple more high
>quality OOC opponents. Do you really think there would
>be more people in the stands Saturday for a PL
>championship if we had played another home game or two
>against CCSU or Sacred Heart in September? We used to
>routinely have 3 home games a year and there was
>tremendous interest in the fb team.
Gate'80 is 100% right and Gate Raider is wrong and doesn't know Colgate's history as primarily as a road team. Just ask Coach Dunlap. 3-4 home games is Ok. Play closer to the metro centers where alumni live. In today's world students hang in the dorms or fraternities so let's get on the bus and play where the alumni live.
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Totally agree with gate'80 & Maven; Gate Raider is dead wrong! -- Andy Kerr, 11/16/15 9:16:12am Mon
In fact, moving to a schedule of 7-8 road games could give Gate a scheduling niche in recruits eyes. When you don't have to schedule "home and home." you can access better quality opponents. Playing in the Northeastern metro areas adds exposure, i.e. schedule a Penn, w.o. having to get a home game. Alums like Gate Raider willing to schlepp to Hammytown every weekend are a veerey small minority of the potential alumni crowd that will attend games in the metro areas. I'm calling Vicki today!
>>Colgate is undefeated in the PL, and was playing for a
>>league title and automatic bid to the playoffs,
>>against our biggest rival over the last couple of
>>decades. There will never be a bigger home game
>>outside of a playoff game. I wish there was a way I
>>could post a screenshot of the TV image of the Dunlap
>>stands. You would think there was a field hockey game
>>being played at Kerr!
>>
>>Of course there will always be home games at Kerr. I'm
>>just saying we should be pleased with 3 or 4 and not
>>insist on 5 or 6, if we could have a couple more high
>>quality OOC opponents. Do you really think there would
>>be more people in the stands Saturday for a PL
>>championship if we had played another home game or two
>>against CCSU or Sacred Heart in September? We used to
>>routinely have 3 home games a year and there was
>>tremendous interest in the fb team.
>
>Gate'80 is 100% right and Gate Raider is wrong and
>doesn't know Colgate's history as primarily as a road
>team. Just ask Coach Dunlap. 3-4 home games is Ok.
>Play closer to the metro centers where alumni live.
>In today's world students hang in the dorms or
>fraternities so let's get on the bus and play where
>the alumni live.
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Re: Totally agree with gate'80 & Maven; Gate Raider is dead wrong! -- Cr, 11/16/15 11:03:57am Mon
>In fact, moving to a schedule of 7-8 road games could
>give Gate a scheduling niche in recruits eyes. When
>you don't have to schedule "home and home." you can
>access better quality opponents. Playing in the
>Northeastern metro areas adds exposure, i.e. schedule
>a Penn, w.o. having to get a home game. Alums like
>Gate Raider willing to schlepp to Hammytown every
>weekend are a veerey small minority of the potential
>alumni crowd that will attend games in the metro
>areas. I'm calling Vicki today!
>
>we should all Vicky!
>
>
>
>
>>>Colgate is undefeated in the PL, and was playing for
>a
>>>league title and automatic bid to the playoffs,
>>>against our biggest rival over the last couple of
>>>decades. There will never be a bigger home game
>>>outside of a playoff game. I wish there was a way I
>>>could post a screenshot of the TV image of the Dunlap
>>>stands. You would think there was a field hockey game
>>>being played at Kerr!
>>>
>>>Of course there will always be home games at Kerr.
>I'm
>>>just saying we should be pleased with 3 or 4 and not
>>>insist on 5 or 6, if we could have a couple more high
>>>quality OOC opponents. Do you really think there
>would
>>>be more people in the stands Saturday for a PL
>>>championship if we had played another home game or
>two
>>>against CCSU or Sacred Heart in September? We used to
>>>routinely have 3 home games a year and there was
>>>tremendous interest in the fb team.
>>
>>Gate'80 is 100% right and Gate Raider is wrong and
>>doesn't know Colgate's history as primarily as a road
>>team. Just ask Coach Dunlap. 3-4 home games is Ok.
>>Play closer to the metro centers where alumni live.
>>In today's world students hang in the dorms or
>>fraternities so let's get on the bus and play where
>>the alumni live.
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I Know What You Mean, Gate Raider -- The Lone Haranguer, 11/16/15 5:17:16pm Mon
I, too, am looking forward to the Morrisville/Alfred State and Utica/Misericorda football rematches next year! Be there or be square!
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Re: One of most exciting games I have seen in a long time -- the last indian (Gate Raider), 11/16/15 9:52:01pm Mon
Do you go to games?. Who are those people in the parking lot? Ex-players, alumni, people connected with the school, but not many locals that are thinking about driving to SU games. I don't think you have a clue.
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Re: One of most exciting games I have seen in a long time -- Maven, 11/16/15 10:02:17pm Mon
>Do you go to games?. Who are those people in the
>parking lot? Ex-players, alumni, people connected
>with the school, but not many locals that are thinking
>about driving to SU games. I don't think you have a
>clue.
Last Indian knows who is clueless.
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Re: One of most exciting games I have seen in a long time -- The Future, 11/16/15 10:22:36pm Mon
Maven's post a few back made me laugh.
In terms of home games, five is the magic number. Four is tricky--mainly because you have three Patriot League home games at or near the end of the season and Cornell as a home and home--and the Ivies don't start playing until the end of September--so you would be looking at one home game for the first six or so weeks of the season--not ideal. Teams like Richmond and Furman are willing to play home and home games with Colgate and that is perfect. For an eleven game season you would have six Patriot League games, Cornell, an FBS, a CAA, and then two games left. Playing another Ivy every year would seem to be a good idea--which leaves one game (two if it's a 12 game season). Albany really is a pretty good option as a close CAA team--though there are plenty of other great teams to play. For a twelve game season, I love the idea of a second FBS school. Playing up has always been a big part of Colgate football and it will help with recruiting. The schedules Colgate has right now are pretty perfect. A great mix of teams. Love starting next season with Syracuse and it being their first opportunity to tie the series in 80 or so years. Good motivation all around.
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Re: Until the last 15-20 years, Colgate was PRIMARILY a road team.... -- Go...'gate, 11/17/15 12:41:50am Tue
>Maven's post a few back made me laugh.
>
>In terms of home games, five is the magic number. Four
>is tricky--mainly because you have three Patriot
>League home games at or near the end of the season and
>Cornell as a home and home--and the Ivies don't start
>playing until the end of September--so you would be
>looking at one home game for the first six or so weeks
>of the season--not ideal. Teams like Richmond and
>Furman are willing to play home and home games with
>Colgate and that is perfect. For an eleven game season
>you would have six Patriot League games, Cornell, an
>FBS, a CAA, and then two games left. Playing another
>Ivy every year would seem to be a good idea--which
>leaves one game (two if it's a 12 game season).
>Albany really is a pretty good option as a close CAA
>team--though there are plenty of other great teams to
>play. For a twelve game season, I love the idea of a
>second FBS school. Playing up has always been a big
>part of Colgate football and it will help with
>recruiting. The schedules Colgate has right now are
>pretty perfect. A great mix of teams. Love starting
>next season with Syracuse and it being their first
>opportunity to tie the series in 80 or so years. Good
>motivation all around.
And, as Casey Stengel liked to say, "you could look it up". I'm old enough to remember no more than 2-3 home games in any year - and the program was fine. We had tough academics back then, too.
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Here's a dozen -- 'gate80, 11/16/15 10:48:03pm Mon
> And, for
>gate80, just what quality FCS teams might you suggest
>that Colgate play.
James Madison - nearly always highly ranked, 20,000 a game, beautiful setting in the Shenandoah, not any harder to get to than Georgetown or Navy (straight shot down I-81)
William & Mary - historic town and setting, top-10 team, academic equal
Penn - good team, prestige, historic venue, Philly metro alums
Harvard - ditto, Boston metro alums
Montana - nearly 24,000/game (I can count on one hand the number of Colgate games in the last 30 years where that many attended), perennial playoff participant, great experience for the team
Montana State - if Montana won't do it, program nearly as good which draws 17,000/game
ND State - cream of FCS recently, 18-19,000/game, domed stadium
Villanova - usually strong program, Philly metro alums
Delaware - 15-16,000/game; game last year a good one
Coastal Carolina - great road trip for team and fans, we won there before, now top FCS program
E Wash - perentially strong program, 10,000/game
Citadel - ranked, 10,000/game, Charleston great road trip, been there before
Any of these schools we should be happy to schedule away games with.
>And, do you really think having 8
>or 9 away games a year would really fit with Colgate's
>academic demands? Colgate doesn't have any easy time
>with the ivies.
So, Colgate's academic demands and AI mean we can't have a couple more away games a year, yet we can no longer compete with the Ivies? Isn't there a contradiction in there somewhere? Dunlap and Biddle won 75-80% of games with Ivies. We are over .500 in Ivy games in our history (which include years where Ivies were the strongest teams nationally, as were we for a while). Yet now entering the scholarship era we question whether we can compete with them?
>I guess you would prefer to see them
>lose 8 games a year.
In the Dunlap era we usually played 3 home games and sometimes 4. Only one year did we lose 8 games. There were 3 years were we had 3 home games and WON 8 games.
>The 80's have past and you
>should stop dwelling in the past.
Are the 1980s really something we can no longer aspire to? Winning a large majority of PL games? (Didn't we this year?) A large majority of Ivy games? (80% in the Biddle era) Be a national contender in FCS (like in 2003?) Schedule stretch games like Army and Syracuse and play respectably? (Don't we have these teams on the schedule the next few years.)
Gate Raider you are my friend. I'd love more games if we could get 5,000 actual people in the stands. I could literally count the number of people in the Dunlap stands last week if I froze the picture, for a freaking championship game! There are more people in the first few rows at some of the schools mentioned above than there were in the Dunlap stands last week! Yes it's great we got Furman and Richmond for home and homes, but if attendance is like last week they won't continue. Now beat a James Madison or FBS team, get highly ranked, be a playoff contender, and then there's a chance you may see a good crowd at Kerr.
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Re: Here's a dozen -- Critic, 11/17/15 10:08:01am Tue
>> And, for
>>gate80, just what quality FCS teams might you suggest
>>that Colgate play.
>
>James Madison - nearly always highly ranked, 20,000 a
>game, beautiful setting in the Shenandoah, not any
>harder to get to than Georgetown or Navy (straight
>shot down I-81)
>
>William & Mary - historic town and setting, top-10
>team, academic equal
>
>Penn - good team, prestige, historic venue, Philly
>metro alums
>
>Harvard - ditto, Boston metro alums
>
>Montana - nearly 24,000/game (I can count on one hand
>the number of Colgate games in the last 30 years where
>that many attended), perennial playoff participant,
>great experience for the team
>
>Montana State - if Montana won't do it, program nearly
>as good which draws 17,000/game
>
>ND State - cream of FCS recently, 18-19,000/game,
>domed stadium
>
>Villanova - usually strong program, Philly metro alums
>
>Delaware - 15-16,000/game; game last year a good one
>
>Coastal Carolina - great road trip for team and fans,
>we won there before, now top FCS program
>
>E Wash - perentially strong program, 10,000/game
>
>Citadel - ranked, 10,000/game, Charleston great road
>trip, been there before
>
>Any of these schools we should be happy to schedule
>away games with.
>
>>And, do you really think having 8
>>or 9 away games a year would really fit with Colgate's
>>academic demands? Colgate doesn't have any easy time
>>with the ivies.
>
>So, Colgate's academic demands and AI mean we can't
>have a couple more away games a year, yet we can no
>longer compete with the Ivies? Isn't there a
>contradiction in there somewhere? Dunlap and Biddle
>won 75-80% of games with Ivies. We are over .500 in
>Ivy games in our history (which include years where
>Ivies were the strongest teams nationally, as were we
>for a while). Yet now entering the scholarship era we
>question whether we can compete with them?
>
>>I guess you would prefer to see them
>>lose 8 games a year.
>
>In the Dunlap era we usually played 3 home games and
>sometimes 4. Only one year did we lose 8 games. There
>were 3 years were we had 3 home games and WON 8 games.
>
>>The 80's have past and you
>>should stop dwelling in the past.
>
>Are the 1980s really something we can no longer aspire
>to? Winning a large majority of PL games? (Didn't we
>this year?) A large majority of Ivy games? (80% in the
>Biddle era) Be a national contender in FCS (like in
>2003?) Schedule stretch games like Army and Syracuse
>and play respectably? (Don't we have these teams on
>the schedule the next few years.)
>
>Gate Raider you are my friend. I'd love more games if
>we could get 5,000 actual people in the stands. I
>could literally count the number of people in the
>Dunlap stands last week if I froze the picture, for a
>freaking championship game! There are more people in
>the first few rows at some of the schools mentioned
>above than there were in the Dunlap stands last week!
>Yes it's great we got Furman and Richmond for home and
>homes, but if attendance is like last week they won't
>continue. Now beat a James Madison or FBS team, get
>highly ranked, be a playoff contender, and then
>there's a chance you may see a good crowd at Kerr.
I still don't understand why our attendance is not better. Where are football fans on a Saturday? Utica College? SUNY Moville? SU? Heck, we win more than SU does. If we could get just a few thousand of the perennially disgruntled SU fans into our stands...........
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Re: Here's a dozen -- pigskin, 11/17/15 10:13:20am Tue
>> And, for
>>gate80, just what quality FCS teams might you suggest
>>that Colgate play.
>
>James Madison - nearly always highly ranked, 20,000 a
>game, beautiful setting in the Shenandoah, not any
>harder to get to than Georgetown or Navy (straight
>shot down I-81)
>
>William & Mary - historic town and setting, top-10
>team, academic equal
>
>Penn - good team, prestige, historic venue, Philly
>metro alums
>
>Harvard - ditto, Boston metro alums
>
>Montana - nearly 24,000/game (I can count on one hand
>the number of Colgate games in the last 30 years where
>that many attended), perennial playoff participant,
>great experience for the team
>
>Montana State - if Montana won't do it, program nearly
>as good which draws 17,000/game
>
>ND State - cream of FCS recently, 18-19,000/game,
>domed stadium
>
>Villanova - usually strong program, Philly metro alums
>
>Delaware - 15-16,000/game; game last year a good one
>
>Coastal Carolina - great road trip for team and fans,
>we won there before, now top FCS program
>
>E Wash - perentially strong program, 10,000/game
>
>Citadel - ranked, 10,000/game, Charleston great road
>trip, been there before
>
>Any of these schools we should be happy to schedule
>away games with.
>
>>And, do you really think having 8
>>or 9 away games a year would really fit with Colgate's
>>academic demands? Colgate doesn't have any easy time
>>with the ivies.
>
>So, Colgate's academic demands and AI mean we can't
>have a couple more away games a year, yet we can no
>longer compete with the Ivies? Isn't there a
>contradiction in there somewhere? Dunlap and Biddle
>won 75-80% of games with Ivies. We are over .500 in
>Ivy games in our history (which include years where
>Ivies were the strongest teams nationally, as were we
>for a while). Yet now entering the scholarship era we
>question whether we can compete with them?
>
>>I guess you would prefer to see them
>>lose 8 games a year.
>
>In the Dunlap era we usually played 3 home games and
>sometimes 4. Only one year did we lose 8 games. There
>were 3 years were we had 3 home games and WON 8 games.
>
>>The 80's have past and you
>>should stop dwelling in the past.
>
>Are the 1980s really something we can no longer aspire
>to? Winning a large majority of PL games? (Didn't we
>this year?) A large majority of Ivy games? (80% in the
>Biddle era) Be a national contender in FCS (like in
>2003?) Schedule stretch games like Army and Syracuse
>and play respectably? (Don't we have these teams on
>the schedule the next few years.)
>
>Gate Raider you are my friend. I'd love more games if
>we could get 5,000 actual people in the stands. I
>could literally count the number of people in the
>Dunlap stands last week if I froze the picture, for a
>freaking championship game! There are more people in
>the first few rows at some of the schools mentioned
>above than there were in the Dunlap stands last week!
>Yes it's great we got Furman and Richmond for home and
>homes, but if attendance is like last week they won't
>continue. Now beat a James Madison or FBS team, get
>highly ranked, be a playoff contender, and then
>there's a chance you may see a good crowd at Kerr.
How much promotion for our home games is done in the Hamilton and other areas close to 'Gate? I have not seen any place where the games are talked up to the locals or kids in the schools. We do it for hockey. We have Friday night games where local kids are either admitted free or at a lower ticket price. Why can't football borrow a page from hockey - and other teams, such as major league baseball - and promote the games in all the media and possibly make discount ticket coupons available in the newspapers and local Pennysavers of Madison county to boost attendance and bring in people who might normally ignore Gate sports. Even though we might not make a fortune, we are putting fannies in the seats and selling stuff at the concession stands. On a beautiful fall day in Sept-Oct there is no better place to be than at a college football game. We have to sell that to the community more than we have been (if any).
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They Don't Care -- Culture..., 11/17/15 1:26:49pm Tue
Locals:
Before Dave Roach, stacks of comp football tickets were available at local businesses. The new model is locals pay. The product on TV is free and much better than mid-level (at best) FCS play. The locals paying are getting older every year, and we are now old enough where most of us are not bringing children (as they are out of the house and out of the area). Another generation from now and few will be attending at all.
Students:
Colgate is, painting with a broad brush, enrolling very different students than in the past. Most care very little (if at all) about college athletics (except for the athletes, of course).
The Colgate Hello is a rare bird on campus and in the village, and will be gone soon. School spirit is centered upon academic reputation (and what the degree buys in terms of earning power) along with the social/party scene. It is a *rare* student who attends a game and stays the whole time. For the student sports fans who are left, the ability to multi-screen / channel switch, etc., in the comfort of a climate controlled space with access to "refreshments" without campo intrusion... It is a STRONG sign that they did not show up for the Lehigh game.
The real problem isn't the short-term. It is that these graduates are the future of Colgate, and they do not give a crap about athletics.
When you add concussions, the push to need blind, and $$$$ into the mix, the question isn't whether Colgate will disband football, but when. Longer than 10 years, for sure. But fewer than 50.
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I.E., G.R., you and some others are putting bandaids on an irreversible trend! -- Ditto Gate'80, 11/19/15 4:28:55pm Thu
This is why you should have been a history major, G.R. !!
Times change.
Accept it!
Flush it out!
Get an iPhone!
>>gate80, There is no reason the suggested OOC opponents
>>that you list should not be home and home
>>arrangements.
>
>That is the number of additional spectators there
>would be at an away game. We have played the schools
>I've listed 40 times before. 11 of these have been
>home games. And these are not the schools on this list
>that draw the biggest crowds, so in the past Colgate
>knew that if they wanted to play such teams it would
>be on the road.
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Re: I.E., G.R., you and some others are putting bandaids on an irreversible trend! -- The Future, 11/19/15 6:39:07pm Thu
Kinda funny how whatever way you knew as a kid becomes the right way because, well, that’s the way it was when I was a kid!
The posters on this board who I typically agree with the most argue that:
1. Colgate shouldn’t care about playing home games. Colgate has a long tradition of being “Road Warriors.” Give us two home games! We can kick ass anywhere!
2. Colgate doesn’t care about hosting playoff games. This is proof that the administration hates football! How can we win without home playoff games?!
If you want to win the national championship (which should always be Colgate’s goal), you need to:
1. Schedule at least one FBS game a year. This will always be an away game. The best FCS teams play them and occasionally win them. It also helps blur the line between FCS and FBS so that you can recruit better players.
2. Schedule home and home series with good teams. As a rule, the point spread swings three points in favor of the home team. That’s a six point difference between playing a team at home or on the road. Which means, unless you are only counting on the autobid to get you into the playoffs, you absolutely need to play Richmond or Furman at home much more than you need to play Delaware on the road. The playoff selection committee isn’t going to care if you played these teams at home or on the road nearly as much as whether you won or lost. Colgate needs to win games against good teams. Colgate is more likely to beat good teams at home. Therefore, Colgate needs home and home series with good teams.
3. It’s a good thing the AD is scheduling football instead of people on this board. The schedules are pretty perfect. The FBS games are great (Colgate will beat Syracuse next year). Home and home games early in the season with Cornell are great. Home and home with teams like Furman and Richmond are really important for at large bids to the playoffs (for strength of schedule and actually winning these games--see above). Throw in another Ivy or another CAA school—ones that will give Colgate a home and home-- and you have five home games (and the advantage of playing top FCS schools at home every other time you play them) and then six away games (with a trip to an FBS school where everyone gets pictures taken).
Isn't it great to know Colgate football is in such good hands!!!
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Bring back the "Barnstorming Red Raiders" of Yore!!! -- Abdy Kerr, 11/19/15 8:04:06pm Thu
This time around, you'll be able to watch multiple games on your iPhone/ipad from the Bluebird or Hickey's or during a Toga Party at Beta!
>Kinda funny how whatever way you knew as a kid becomes
>the right way because, well, that’s the way it was
>when I was a kid!
>
>The posters on this board who I typically agree with
>the most argue that:
>1. Colgate shouldn’t care about playing home games.
>Colgate has a long tradition of being “Road Warriors.”
>Give us two home games! We can kick ass anywhere!
>2. Colgate doesn’t care about hosting playoff games.
>This is proof that the administration hates football!
>How can we win without home playoff games?!
>
>
>If you want to win the national championship (which
>should always be Colgate’s goal), you need to:
>1. Schedule at least one FBS game a year. This will
>always be an away game. The best FCS teams play them
>and occasionally win them. It also helps blur the line
>between FCS and FBS so that you can recruit better
>players.
>2. Schedule home and home series with good teams. As a
>rule, the point spread swings three points in favor of
>the home team. That’s a six point difference between
>playing a team at home or on the road. Which means,
>unless you are only counting on the autobid to get you
>into the playoffs, you absolutely need to play
>Richmond or Furman at home much more than you need to
>play Delaware on the road. The playoff selection
>committee isn’t going to care if you played these
>teams at home or on the road nearly as much as whether
>you won or lost. Colgate needs to win games against
>good teams. Colgate is more likely to beat good teams
>at home. Therefore, Colgate needs home and home series
>with good teams.
>3. It’s a good thing the AD is scheduling football
>instead of people on this board. The schedules are
>pretty perfect. The FBS games are great (Colgate will
>beat Syracuse next year). Home and home games early in
>the season with Cornell are great. Home and home with
>teams like Furman and Richmond are really important
>for at large bids to the playoffs (for strength of
>schedule and actually winning these games--see above).
>Throw in another Ivy or another CAA school—ones that
>will give Colgate a home and home-- and you have five
>home games (and the advantage of playing top FCS
>schools at home every other time you play them) and
>then six away games (with a trip to an FBS school
>where everyone gets pictures taken).
>
>Isn't it great to know Colgate football is in such
>good hands!!!
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Not really a contradiction -- 'gate80, 11/20/15 8:12:55pm Fri
Of course we should try to get home playoff games if the goal is to advance in the playoffs. Our home playoff record is 3-0, and away is 1-9. Even with our best efforts it will be rare when Colgate is in a position to host a playoff game, and it is a disgrace that we forfeited those opportunities in the past. And yes it is evidence that the anti-fb attitudes were real. The good news, if true, is that we finally bid for a home playoff game. It is a sign that Vicki gets it and has influence.
I also agree that Vicki has done a great job with our fb schedules. I would be delighted if we played all of our games at Kerr. I am skeptical that we will continue to get Richmond and Furman, and eventually James Madison and Delaware, to come to Hamilton to play in front of a few hundred, as Lehigh did last week in the most important home game in 7 years. If James Madison prefers to play a game with us in front of 20,000 in Virginia, rather than in front of 500 in Hamilton, we should understand and not say the hell with 'em. Yes we need to beat good teams, even if it has to be on the road, not only to have a shot at an at-large bid but to improve our chances of being awarded a home playoff game.
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Re: Not really a contradiction -- bs, 11/21/15 10:38:56am Sat
>you are right on.
Also, in the sixties we generally had three home games. Homecoming, fall party and parents weekend.
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