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Subject: Not so sure about that. Minnesota leadership is wishy washy. Did Susan and Jeremy Ables produce that pageant this year? I heard they got fired by Oklahoma and Texas. Some dispute about them not receiving live streaming money. Will the Ables produce the national pageant this year? I asked our director and he said it was doubtful since Straub 's lawyers had them in the courtroom ready to call them as witnesses. Is that true? If so, looks like they probably would not be producing but not sure of the facts. Author: No name [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 19:09:39 10/09/24 Wed Author Host/IP: NoHost/194.110.115.42 In reply to: calling it like it is 's message, "Plus the MN ED is obsessed with power. That's why she fawns after whoever is the CEO of Miss America.After years and years of no accountability, combined with her love of power and control, she doesn’t see what she’s become. Her ‘faux’ leadership has led to decisions that no longer reflect the best interests of the women or the organization. Kinda models herself after the national level actually." on 11:57:46 10/09/24 Wed [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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Subject Author Date It seems like several states broke away from them in USA and MAO. It was said that Robin mandated that no state pageant were to use them for production and videography last year. The usual states that used them did not while it seemed MN went against that rule. (NT) No name (NoHost/172.58.0.253) 02:23:09 10/10/24 Thu If they took the live streaming money for themselves they should not be involved in any state but do not know the facts. Seems if MN kept using them to produce their show they have decided to be on Straub's side. I know several states have been concerned about a state director feeding Straub's team information could it be Minnesota? Seems likely to me given the Ables connection and the Ables being willing to testify for Straub. Maybe Straub promised Susan and Jeremy something? Is there anyone who knows? (NT) -- No name, 08:04:34 10/10/24 Thu (static-198-44-140-202.cust.tzulo.com/198.44.140.202)