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>Shut the fuck up Agnes. You are so dense. oH, I >forgot. WE are one & the same person. > >All the kids here are being abused but most of us know >it is just fiction. but Agnes, you are such a born >liar. so piss off & leave Scamptoo alone. And stop >abusing your kids because you are a joke at being a >mother too them. Poor Donny. > >If you let your son post here, people are able to >comment on it. So fuck off Agnes. > >Lindsay > > > > > > > >> > > > > >l > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Mr. Scamptoo, my name is Agnes and I am Donny and >>Evie's mother and Donny didn't show me your note--I >>saw it when I came here to see if anyone commented on >>the message I had Donny write FOR ME TO POST HERE. >> >>For your information I read a lot about maintenance >>spanking on this site and on others before I decided >>to use a form of it on my children. The key to mine >>being that for the time being they would both be >>spanked three times a week and more if I didn't see a >>big improvement in their conduct and behavior--which >>my husband and I have already seen as Donny >>mentioned--and which we are truly delighted with. >> >>I have read a lot of your emails in the last three or >>four weeks and you seem like a very nice man who >>believes children benefit from spankings, but like so >>many people you also seem to have very strong and >>fixed feeling about the "right" and "wrong" way to do >>things. You wanted Donny to show me your note so I >>would go back and read the posts on this subject more >>carefully so I would "learn" that many people decide >>not to do maintenance spankings like they have been >>doing their punishment spankings--that they do them >>much less severely but on a regular basis rather than >>for particular offenses or conduct. >> >>Yes, Nr. S, I saw that suggestion many times, okay? >>But I also saw that others who use maintenance >>spankings disagree and still give quite severe >>spankings when they do their maintenance >>spankings--much more like their regular spankings of >>their kids for bad conduct. In effect, people do not >>all agree on every aspect of the maintenance spankings >>they give. Did you not notice that? Maybe you, and not >>me, should go back and read the reports more >carefully. >> >>In my case, the spankings we have given for years >>include the use of a wooden spoon when I spank, and >>of my husband's belt when he spanks. We are >>comfortable with that. It works for us. We do like the >>idea of regular spankings for our two, but--for >>example--giving either of ours a pittypat spanking of >>20 spanks and saying run along now and be good, we >>know would be a joke. >> >>When we spank our kids the way Donny described (and he >>did a good job of that I must say), they get the >>message we want to give them, okay? And Mr. S, since >>we have been spanking our kids since they were >>preschool toddlers, we really don't need instruction >>from you or anyone else as to how to spank them. >>Suggestions are always welcome--but comments which >>suggest "you are wrong because you are not doing >>things the way I think they should be done, or the way >>these 20 parents do it with their kids--that is just >>inappropriate. Like the idea of suggesting there is >>only one way to do maintenance spankings on a regular >>basis--one way, that's it. >> >>But, Mr. S., as one example, telling Donny (and Evie) >>that parents who use maintenance spankings "don't use >>implements" is so plainly wrong it is ludicrous. Even >>the very nice Lindsay on this site who has instructed >>many parents in how to do such spankings leaves room >>for the use of a paddle for the punishment part of the >>regular maintenance sessions she describes. (Since she >>deals mostly with quite young children, she recommends >>like "5 extra spanks" and the like for that punishment >>phase of her "routine"--which, works fine with the >>kids she is dealing with but, as I pointed out, would >>be laughable with my kids.) >> >>Further you have overstepped yourself when you presume >>to tell my child, "I hope that you let your mom read >>this message so she can see that maybe she read those >>messages wrong." That's pretty nervy of you, I must >>say to imply to a child that his mother is a little >>dense where you are so smart and know how things >>should be. I suspect you are the one who needs to read >>the posts on this subject (and others) more closely, >>and not alone because of your "implements are not >>used" statement. >> >>That comment by you that you hope he shows your note >>to me demonstrates beyond question how stupidly and >>carelessly YOU read these posts--because Donny made >>clear that he did not put that note on this site--that >>I would put his note on this site for him! >> >>HE DOES NOT KNOW ABOUT THESE FORUMS AND HAS NOT READ >>ANY NOTES ON HERE because I did not want him reading >>generally on here. I gave him and Edie selected pages >>of certain posts that were fine for them to read. Now >>that was made eminently clear in his note, BUT YOU >>MISSED THAT ENTIRELY!--while telling my son you hoped >>he would show me your note and maybe I would go back >>and read the notes more carefully! I am a college >>grad, by the way, raising two youngsters and I really >>don't need instruction from someone who makes comments >>like that and has clearly not understood the note he >>is commenting on. >> >>As I say, different strokes for different folks, Mr. >>S, and there are different ways to do things for >>different people--like maintenance spankings. That >>subject is not a case of "ONE way or the HIGHWAY"! >> >>Agnes

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