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>>>You mentioned realizing the benefits of diaper >>discipline >the more you read about it. Did it match >>up with the >results you have gotten after >>implementing it? Why do you >feel it became (as you >>put it) an obvious choice? Was the >boys reaction what >>you were expecting, or was there any >worry they would >>resist or try to take their diapers off? >> >>Yes, we have been very happy with the results so far. >>We expected it to be difficult for the boys to adjust, >>but we think we've really given them a shock and >>motivation to improve their behaviour. It became an >>obvious choice because nothing else seemed to work >>(grounding, spanking, etc), so my wife and I knew we >>needed something drastic. The boys' reacted a little >>better than we expected to be honest, especially >>Chase. We have had no incidents so far of the boys >>resisting (physically) or attempting to remove their >>diapers. >> >>>When I asked what kind of diapers you were using, I >>meant >what brand of disposables and where did you get >>them? >Because you might be able to find a better >>price with bulk >orders online, possibly with monthly >>subscriptions from >some suppliers or even stuffers >>that make a change not >needed as often. >> >>Ah, I misunderstood. We bulk-purchased Tranquility >>Smartcore Disposable Briefs for the boys, size small. >>But as I mentioned, we will very soon be switching to >>cloth diapers. We have not decided which brand yet. >> >>>I have a feeling the boys will like the cloth even >>less, so >you might offer to let them wear the >>disposables sometimes >if their behavior is good. >> >>We had not thought about this, good idea. We will >>consider this if they end up preferring the disposable >>diapers. >> >>>And it's good that you have some close family friends >>who >are still happy to bring their kids over. Sounds >>like they >must have been understanding and supportive >>upon learning >of your boys new rules. >> >>Yes, they're good kids, raised by good parents. We've >>known them since our boys were little. >> >>>I'm curious why you feel the boys will still be in >>diapers >after 12 months. Of course there's no rule >>that says if you >take them out at any point, the >>diapers can never come >back. If their behavior >>improves to where you want it, you >could still keep >>the diapers at the ready for shorter >stints around >>the house such as a weekend, or family >events. >> >>That's true, however my wife and I just have a feeling >>that it will take a while for them to truly take their >>punishment on board and to turn their behaviour >>around. We fear that if we took them out of diapers >>now (for example), that things would just slip back to >>how they were before, even with the threat of being >>diapered now looming over their heads. We also feel >>that both boys need to be punished properly - a few >>weeks in diapers (say) would not be enough to send a >>real message in my opinion. We also want to avoid >>putting them in and taking them out of diapers >>repeatedly. From what we've read, an important part of >>diaper punishment is for kids to be forced to use >>diapers for a long enough period that they start to >>lose bowel and bladder control, adding the >>embarassment of feeling like a baby who can't control >>when they pee or poop themselves. The best way to >>achieve that is to force them to wear and use diapers >>for at least a few months. And finally, being in >>diapers 24/7 is very effective at keeping them out of >>trouble, which Peter in particular needs right now. >> >>But as I mentioned, we will now review their behaviour >>every three months (and they're already around a month >>in of course). >> >>>But that still sounds like a long way off. In the >>meantime, >you mentioned changing them on the kitchen >>table. I'm sure >that works perfectly fine and getting >>an actual changing >table (like other posters have >>mentioned) would be a big >hassle. But you might want >>to make sure there are no >distractions around the >>room (like a tv) nearby. Or >sometimes change the boys >>individually so you can encourage >some one on one >>conversations. >> >>We will stick to our routine for now, but thank you >>for the suggestions. A changing table feels like an >>unnecessary expense at the moment, as the kitchen >>table works perfectly for now. I'm sure our diaper >>changing routine will adjust over time as the four of >>us learn more about the practicalities of diaper >>punishment. It is a good point about the distractions >>though. We have not had many individual changing >>sessions yet (only so far for example when one boy has >>an activity after school and the other one is at >>home), but we may make them more frequent in future. > >Nice to hear the boys reacted somewhat better than you >expected. And it sounds like there's already been some >progress, compared to their initial reaction. Have >things settled down at school with the other students? >Are you concerned the staff will ever learn the reason >for the diapers is primarily punishment? They didn't >ask for any doctor note or further explanation why the >kids suddenly couldn't use the bathroom at all? It's >good you were able to work something out since I >suspect how to handle school would deter other parents. >I looked up the Tranquility one you mentioned and >noticed the overnight version seems to be close in >price. Not needing to be changed as often could make >it more cost effective if you decide to still use >disposables sometimes, after the cloth ones arrive. >You know I had thought of asking if you were worried >about the boys losing some control after staying in >diapers long term. Guess you had already considered >that. Other accounts I've heard would only do diapers >from a few days to weeks for partly that reason. But >it's totally up to you.

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