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Date Posted: 23:07:18 01/20/03 Mon
Author: Reindeer Fan
Subject: Where would we be without O'Toole
In reply to: Truth Ruth 's message, "Re: Give#1 Stag the Big Bucks" on 22:42:43 01/20/03 Mon

We have no way of knowing. We might have won 20 games last year with a different coach. Or we might have won 8. We just don't know. While we can give O'toole credit for evaluating and attracting talent, would another person have been able to attract this talent given Fairfields new arena? Should Doris get most of the credit for the things he has done in terms of facility improvements to make it possible for Tim to attract these players?

For this reason it is hard to evaluate O'toole versus other choices since we have no real ability to measure or evaluate the other choices. I do believe it is wrong to blame the coach for all the ills of a program that has struggled for 20 years nor should the coach stand alone if the program has finally turned the corner. While the future looks promising, how many remember the 20 win season Cormier had, the great young recruits and the great returning senior class that featured Bowman and Francis. That was a great team that finished last due to a host of key injuries to Boucard, Bowman and Miller (just to name a few). I thought Cormier had turned the corner but in reality he had not. So while things look promising O'toole has yet to match the 20 win seasons shown by Cormier or Buonguoro two coaches who were ultimately fired....

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[> [> [> O'Toole Factor -- WS Stag, 23:37:21 01/20/03 Mon

The Stags had a 36% winning record from the begining of the MAAC until TOT started.There were 3 winning seasons in 22 years, and TOT captained the 24-7 1986 club. We stunk.
I believe that TOT & crew are about 5 games over .500 in the MAAC (42-37?). A 7-0 start in MAAC play is icing on the cake. The Stags are beginning to be good, and maybe very good.
Fairfield has been a coaches graveyard. Tim took a big gamble with his career coming back after Duke and Seton Hall.
It is a wonderful confluence of events that built Harbor Yards and renovated the Fairfield campus and athletic facilities. That coupled with consistency in the coaching ranks and this winning team, can only help attract more talent.
Resign Tim O'Toole now based on his merits. I rest my case.


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[> [> [> [> Re: O'Toole Factor -- Threepointer, 07:35:53 01/21/03 Tue

Amen- WS.Well said!


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