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Subject: Re: AIC Goes D2 in hockey Author: RCM [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: Thursday, November 14, 01:06:34pm Author Host/IP: syn-208-105-101-082.biz.spectrum.com/208.105.101.82 In reply to: RCM 's message, "AIC Goes D2 in hockey" on Wednesday, November 13, 07:14:46pm Sadly, leagues that NU are associated with jettison programs due to cancellation at a pretty good clip. The economics of d1 hockey at schools like NU, Mercyhurst, CC. Are really terrible. They are not sustainable. Adding NIL money on top of an already very expensive budget will continue to prove difficult if not impossible for schools of NU's size. If you factor in very, very poor attendance for schools in the AHA you have programs that are not even close to breaking even. NU would need about 85,000 paying customers to off set their budget at the gate. Schools and their boards will start coming to difficult choices...similar to the ones that have already cancelled hockey...can they continue to basically write off a million and a half dollars per year for a sport and a program that is not moving the needle. To be fair, the landscape is much different now in the college hockey than it was when NU started a team and many other schools in the AHA started. NIL money, CHL players, make an impact. But the reality is that larger, non traditional hockey schools (see also football schools)are now playing. The delta between competition and budgets is much wider now than it was in the past. In its current state AHA hockey teams are not moving the needle at their schools. Let's hope this changes. But how long can you lose tons of money for a venture that is sparsely attended, no longer covered by local news, and bringing almost no visibility to the school? Sometimes the best way to view if something is a good idea is asking "all things being equal would we do this now". There is absolutely no way, in my view, the majority of AHA teams would start hockey. I can not believe any of these small schools are doing it. Let's hope I am wrong. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> [> Subject: Re: AIC Goes D2 in hockey Author: Maldez [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Thursday, November 14, 05:03:47pm Author Host/IP: syn-067-249-246-087.res.spectrum.com/67.249.246.87 Such a downer of a post, but probably is closer to the truth than it is to falsehood. I for one would hate to see Niagara demote hockey to a D2 status, or worse yet, drop it altogether. I realize it's a strain on an already shaky budget, but I'm hoping the administration finds a way to make it work. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Re: AIC Goes D2 in hockey Author: RCM [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Thursday, November 14, 05:50:38pm Author Host/IP: syn-045-046-140-085.res.spectrum.com/45.46.140.85 I agree! I think the only way to really make it work is get more fannies in the seat. I was at the game 2 or 3 weeks ago. There were 3 broken sticks I saw break during the game. That is over $1200 for those three sticks. The ice time is probably $900 which NU has to pay to Dwyer Arena. Lots of what is happening, like many of these challenges in college sports, is happening to everyone. As I posted earlier, I was told by someone very close to the college hockey scene in WNY that the new scholarship rules will very much negatively impact the entire AHA. I don't know enough about it to know if that is true. Teams that have been in NU's conferences which have folded include Fairfield Iona Findlay Wayne State Robert Morris (not sure if they are back now?) Huntsville (not sure if they are back now) AIC NU has a nice rink. Close to Canada. And is leaning into the NIL game. This is a good sign. I wonder how this all would have turned out if the original place for the NU hockey was completed...A complete bowl rink and entrance into an established conference? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Re: AIC Goes D2 in hockey Author: Purp 1 [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Thursday, November 14, 09:32:18pm Author Host/IP: syn-074-070-140-050.res.spectrum.com/74.70.140.50 To answer your last question... They would barely break even and more likely still be running a program in the red. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]