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Date Posted: 02:16:50 01/28/00 Fri
Author: §Matt§
Subject: Smashing is me n/p
In reply to: The Smashing Machine 's message, "Re: So much talk about God......" on 02:23:13 01/27/00 Thu

> > I would have to say it would take a pretty empty
> > person to say that all asumptions are based on
> > fear...I am assume much, I have to to draw
> conclusions
> > if I do not want to limit myself...
>
> You do not want to limit yourself, yet you create
> conclusions? What is a conclusion, an assumption? Too
> conclude is to create an end, a stoppage, correct? You
> place a barrier in front of your knowledge and that
> barrier creates a dead ed and that dead end forces a
> conclusion. How can a conclusion, which is limited,
> free you from being limited?
>
> >I know you think you want to be empty, but don't
> limit >yourself, empty out the bad...and refill your
> tanks with >the good.
>
> Emptiness is an idea. So long as I am "empty", I am
> not empty, because I remain with the idea of being
> empty. How is one to empty out the bad and refill with
> the good? Even if you repent, you still cannot empty
> out the bad. And when you do good to counteract the
> bad, you are not creating any good at all, because
> such goodness is created out of the bad. Goodness
> should be created out of goodness. Goodness shouldn't
> be something we do to forgive ourselves of badness,
> because then goodness becomes a market! We are
> salesmen if we say "Ok, I will donate to the poor so
> that my bad deed of calling my friend a 'bitch' will
> be overpowered!!!". Is goodness a market where you
> empty what you have (badness) to recieve what you
> desire (goodness)? No! Goodness comes what you are
> good; when you are no longer bad. This doesn't come by
> trying to do good or trying not to do bad.
>
> > Allot of what you say is based on asumption, do you
> > fear that you may not be write?
>
> I hope that I am not right, actually. A conclusion
> comes when one stops thinking about that certain
> issue. Everything we conclude, so thinking is not even
> with us, is it? Thoughts are not from thinking.
> Thinging is a verb and thoughts are the past; the two
> have nothing to do with eachother other than their
> secular makeup.
>
> For me to be right on this would mean so much more
> than what is posted here. For me to be right would
> mean that we and our world is 100% false.... but I
> digress, because that is too far ahead of this
> conversation.
>
> > You aren't right, for
> > you are not "there" yet, none of us are.
>
> What if I am there? You have concluded I am not there.
>
> >However, you
> > are not on the wrong path for you are searching the
> > right place, self...just don't limit your
> > possibilities, or you shall become stagnet.
>
> Where is my limitation? Limitation is conclusion. You
> have concluded; I have not. I admit; I know nothing!!!
> I am ignorant! So how can I be limited then? If I know
> nothing, I still have an entrie world to discover. My
> possibilities must be endless since I know that I know
> nothing at all. What about you? Do you know about
> love? If so, that knowing is your limitation, because
> you cannot move beyond it. Any conclusion, any
> description, and idea is a dead thing. And thinking is
> not a dead thing; not a conclusion; not a description.

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  • Re: So much talk about God...... -- saint stephen, 11:50:10 01/28/00 Fri
  • Re: So much talk about God...... -- §Matt§, 14:09:18 01/28/00 Fri
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